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Speaker 2: Hey, mandra Hey we definitely didn't oversleep.

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Speaker 1: Now, I know, I know what happened today. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie walke up this morning and I said, I

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Speaker 1: was honestly like, I I don't want to wake up

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Speaker 1: maybe because it's draining. I definitely was feeling very like, well,

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Speaker 1: it's me and I'm not gonna lie. Halfway through the day,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, really, Tiffany, what is you You

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Speaker 1: Me me, me, you get to take a nap in

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Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you put it that way,

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Speaker 2: it's not something that you want to brag about, you

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Speaker 2: over I overslept from my little late, late morning nap.

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Speaker 2: I try not to tell my husband that I now

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Speaker 2: during the day because he's.

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Speaker 1: Like, I call my nap second sleep. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's not a second sleep, but.

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Speaker 2: It looks like I missed. Like the world is falling apart.

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Speaker 1: It's falling apart. Let what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Catch me up?

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Speaker 1: So as far as I know, so no, honestly. So.

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Speaker 1: Earlier today I was on Twitter, aka the place where

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Speaker 1: we all get our news from, and the Twitters had

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckenberger as Little Boosie calls him, which, if I

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Speaker 1: and he's been bagging for his Instagram back. He can't

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Speaker 1: even get Mark Zuckerberg's name right, He's like, mister Zuckerberger, please,

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Speaker 1: so we I referred to him as so Mark Zuckenberger.

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Speaker 1: Apparently there was this sixty minute expos on Facebook last night.

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Speaker 1: I don't want sixty minutes, but I do read Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and that's why they were like trending and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh wow. So she blew the whistle saying then basically

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Speaker 1: that Facebook Mark all of them knew that Facebook is

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Speaker 1: harmful and toxic to people in specific ways, and they

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Speaker 1: knew that they could actually fix it, but they determined

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Speaker 1: that in so fixing it, it would mean that people

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Speaker 1: would spend spending less time on the site. And as

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Speaker 1: a result, if when you spend less time on the site,

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Speaker 1: you're less likely to see ads. If you're less likely

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Speaker 1: to see ads, you're less likely to click. If you're

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Speaker 1: less likely to click, you're less likely to buy less

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Speaker 1: money for Facebook. So they decided that it was worth

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Speaker 1: it to put you in emotional, mental, psychological distress so

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Speaker 1: they can make more money, which quite honestly sounds like

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Speaker 1: every big organization that we know. I mean, let's be real,

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Speaker 1: that's not unique to the sucking bug. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: But so I saw that, and then literally earlier I

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Speaker 1: if Mandy's okay. Let me check her instant because that's

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Speaker 1: because I was gonna look at me like mmm. And

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Speaker 1: I looked and I was like, wait a minute, Instagram

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Speaker 1: and then we went to Facebook. I said, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: Facebook is down, And then I tried to WhatsApp you

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Speaker 1: to say, hey man, drug because I had text you.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, what'sapp, you know, because maybe WhatsApp

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Speaker 1: and I was like via what'sapp and WhatsApp was down.

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Speaker 1: Then I was like, wait, what how did these three

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Speaker 1: How are these threings? The three things related? Facebook, Instagram,

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Speaker 2: Yes, sucker Puka.

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Speaker 1: So here's here's my theory.

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Speaker 2: You tell me, okay me the spy Malu, where's your monicle?

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Speaker 1: My theory is the hardy boys, right, the hardy Blacks.

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Speaker 1: So my theory is instead of Nancy Drew, we got it,

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Speaker 1: there was also a hashtag going that said the leade

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Speaker 1: say less and Facebook down. So yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Oh how the Mighty have fallen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I heard that on the radio this morning. I'm like

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Speaker 2: I feel like we have in Facebook and their whole

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Speaker 1: I mean, Twitter's like the last holdout you know that

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Speaker 1: we'll make our own Snapchat, and sure enough they I mean,

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Speaker 2: But I'm also like, can I get my ig back though,

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Speaker 2: Amber had some plans today. I'm earlier, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, so funny. First of all, Twitter is undefeated. Let's

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Speaker 1: be real. Twitter is the shadies of all the platforms,

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Speaker 1: they don't think they won. Danks Like literally, they're using

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Speaker 2: All right, oh lord, you know what also is down?

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Speaker 2: And this is a company that maybe you guys haven't

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Speaker 2: drama around Ozzy have you heard of Ozzy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they wanted me to be on that show.

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Speaker 2: Carlos what's his face, Carlos Watson, Yes, yes, So you decline, okay,

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Speaker 2: good because they were apparently a hot mess. And I

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Speaker 2: of having a hard time. Well they've they've shut down,

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Speaker 2: But you had talked about Elizabeth Holmes and Therahose last

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Speaker 2: American media and Americans we just like have this fascination

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Speaker 2: black man you know his mom or his dad. He's

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Speaker 2: apparently they've never really been transparent about their audience and

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Speaker 2: that he apparently you can just upload anything to Amazon

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Speaker 2: Amazon's Amazon Primes first talk show, first news focused talk show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that that was the show they invited

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Speaker 1: not know that word, Mandy.

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Speaker 2: I know for gazy?

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Speaker 1: because that's not fair.

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Speaker 2: But and yet.

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Speaker 1: And yet here we are, because let's be real, they're

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Speaker 1: they're literally going to be like, you know, like they're

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Speaker 1: already saying you trying to pull a their nose, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: so what are they going to say another assie? You know,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's delighting in it, but unfortunately, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's bigger than just you when you have.

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Speaker 2: A spotlight on you, absolutely, I mean there's headlines about

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Speaker 2: like there was another article. It was like an opinion column.

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Speaker 2: But it's like what Elizabeth Holmes rise and fall means

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Speaker 2: for ambitious women?

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Speaker 1: So great?

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Speaker 2: We had one high powered woman, you know, billionaire on

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Speaker 2: and she ended up to be a fraud. And now

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Speaker 2: it's like, well, that's just you know, gonna make it

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Speaker 2: it's not fair, and yet that is the way that

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Speaker 1: it was a mistake and you were wrong, you know,

429
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Speaker 1: but we live and we learned. Because it has not

430
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Speaker 1: it won't be your last but you know you will

431
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: live to see another day. You continue on, but you

432
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: apologize for it, and you and you try your best

433
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: to make amends for it, and some people will forgive you,

434
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: and some people will won't, and it's their prerogative not to.

435
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: So there were a couple of other young women who

436
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Speaker 1: was in personal finance involved, and they reached out to

437
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Speaker 1: me to say, hey, you know, she made this mistake

438
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Speaker 1: and she's tagging you. And I was like, what I

439
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: had not known because I wasn't on social as much.

440
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: And so when I found out, so the other young women,

441
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, they they sent me articles about why what

442
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: she posted was offensive. I read and we were having

443
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: a dialogue and I thought, okay. And then one of them,

444
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: I think she like wanted to like jump on a call,

445
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: and I said sure. And then the other one I

446
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: reached out, was like, you know, if you'd like to talk,

447
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm open to learn. I said, no, one is too

448
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: big for correction, you know, and I'm open to learn.

449
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: I'd love to jump on the call. She said sure.

450
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: So then I I like, my my mentee had posted

451
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Speaker 1: an apology and I had wroteen underneath it. You know,

452
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: you know, I'm proud of you for postings apology. So

453
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: one of the girls was mad at me for telling

454
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Speaker 1: my mentee I'm proud of you for posting an apology,

455
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: and she wrote, this is why I'm so glad that

456
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: we have new faces and personal finance, you know, basically

457
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: like you know, like, oh, we're already in the guard Yeah,

458
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: new people are here to push you out and not

459
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Speaker 1: quite Honestly, I hope so sis I'm tired. Honestly, I

460
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: was like, girl, I'll threatning with a good time. So

461
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: when she said that, I was like, so that I

462
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: reached by her and behind the scenes and I said,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, and then she posted a tweed

464
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Speaker 1: and said people like the budgetnist to imagine it was

465
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Speaker 1: so weird because she thought I was supporting my mentee

466
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Speaker 1: because there was some sort of financial benefit, and I'm like,

467
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Speaker 1: what would that be. There's no there was no financial benefit,

468
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: you know. It wasn't like there's no brand, there's no

469
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Speaker 1: I just thought that was strange anyway, that was her

470
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: interpretation anyway, So she posted she tweeted, I hope I

471
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Speaker 1: never become like the budgetista that she added me where

472
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: you know, I do things that are not right for

473
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Speaker 1: the financial benefit or something to that. She was basically

474
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Speaker 1: trying to get the cancel train going. I think, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: I didn't even because I knew that I could amplify

476
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Speaker 1: that voice and I wasn't gonna do that. I was like, sis,

477
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Speaker 1: I see you added me. You think I'm gonna like

478
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Speaker 1: say sentencing back.

479
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: No.

480
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Speaker 1: I hit her behind the scenes and I said, you know,

481
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Speaker 1: if you think that I've done something thing wrong, I'm

482
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: open to hearing about it because maybe I have. This

483
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: is what I wrote her. So this is how I

484
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: knew that the desire to for change was not really genuine. Sorry, girl,

485
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Because later she was like, actually, for my

486
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: own mental health, I prefer not to talk to you.

487
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, but you can. You could tweet poison gotcha,

488
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: because oh, we're really here to make things different and change.

489
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: But the moment that I'm like, girl, I am wide open,

490
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, like, let me know, because honestly, I really

491
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: do want to do and be better. And I said that,

492
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, But you can tweet about and

493
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: you can instagram and say all these things, you know,

494
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: but when it comes time to actually have an adult

495
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: conversation to say hey, Tiffany, this is where I think

496
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: that you were wrong whatever, and not that it's her

497
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: job to teach me anything, but that was offered. And

498
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: then two, you know that if you're going to, you know,

499
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: like I guess, try to publicly drag me for whatever reason.

500
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just thought that that was really unfortunate,

501
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, well, what if that had work,

502
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, like what if she would have posted that?

503
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: And then there was this tumbling effect of like, well,

504
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: you hate budget Theese stuff, you hate Buese. I don't

505
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: you know it's possible. You never know, you know, And

506
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: I thought like that just would have been so unfortunate.

507
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, with y'all, don't be knowing see

508
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: some of y'all, all your money is made on the

509
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: front end.

510
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: It's foolish.

511
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: I've been peep game. If you only knew like maybe

512
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Speaker 1: ten percent of the money I make. If Budget Eesta

513
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: were to disappear today, I would still be a very

514
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: wealthy woman. It's too late. It's too light. Literally it's

515
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: too late. So even if I were to disappear, I'll

516
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: be still good, good, good good, and have so many

517
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: services of product I've got equity in, I've got ownership in.

518
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: I advise on all them stuff, sweetheart that you be

519
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: on that's me too, like so, but I put those

520
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: things in place on purpose to make sure that if ever,

521
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be do budgetiesta anymore. But it

522
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: was a really eye opening experience about what it's like

523
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: when people really are not really looking out for whatever

524
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: the greater good benefit is. They're just looking to express

525
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: their frustration, which is their right. But you know what

526
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: that could be like to like, you know, like be

527
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: canceled or whatever one day, and so a hope before that,

528
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, I sent my own self down. I'm like,

529
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: don't sit me down. I want to set my whole

530
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: self down. But it was just honestly, I wasn't afraid

531
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: during that time, you know, because I was just like,

532
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: you know, I just didn't really I didn't think much

533
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: of it. But at the same time I was thinking

534
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I was disappointed. And because here's also the disappointment Mandy

535
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I don't think people understand how much

536
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 1: that the quote unquote old guard puts y'all on. Like

537
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: I might not say, but I have a list of

538
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: financial people of color and a day does not go

539
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: by that. I'm a request is not made of me.

540
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Some and many of them are not within my price range.

541
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Speaker 1: Ayd dollars twenty five hundred dollars five thousand, No, no, no, no,

542
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: But I never ever ever let something cross my path

543
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: that I can't you that I do not share with

544
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: another financial educator of color. Never, you know, Patrice put

545
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: me onto that of You know, we all love Patrice

546
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: of Patresa's.

547
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: King Wisdom, Yes, seek wisdom, wealth sor ry yes watching

548
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: him one of our first guests ever.

549
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: Yes, she was one of our first guests. She's got

550
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: her own podcasts too, which is awesome. So she reminds

551
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: because I remember asking with Patrice, like, well, if you

552
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: can't do something, what do you do? Patrecea is like, girl,

553
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: I always try to pass it on. I'm like, oh

554
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: that's good. So we're in this black money group called Elevate,

555
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: and so almost every week someone sends me something I

556
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 1: can't do it. I posted and Elevate and said, does

557
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: anybody want to do it? It's twenty five hundred dollars. They

558
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: told me that I could share. I always ask if

559
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: I could share, but not only just that. Sometimes brands

560
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: literally come to me. There's a huge brand, one of

561
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: the biggest financial brands in the world that ask me

562
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: for a list of young, up and coming black and

563
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: brown financial educators that they can start to invest in.

564
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: And so what I look for obviously that you know

565
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: your stuff, but I also look for how do you

566
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: navigate in this space? Are you a tear downer or

567
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: you're a builder upper? You know what I mean? Like, literally,

568
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: there was a I just was tired. There was a

569
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars contract now that is within range,

570
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: but I said no to it, but not before passing

571
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: it on. Twenty five thousand dollars is transformative money for

572
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: a brand new financial educator, or a.

573
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: Few email just to see if I got anything.

574
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: You know, they were looking for it. They were looking

575
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: for a dude. Fine, It's just like wait, I could

576
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: be But I just say all that to say, be

577
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: careful that the person that you're trying to tear down

578
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: and attack it's not on the same team as you. Mama,

579
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: like I put, I might not tell you, but like literally,

580
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: I have my list and I'm always asking Sandy for

581
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: people I'm oh. I like literally, I have like a

582
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: running list of like dope educators that I'm like, oh,

583
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: let me put her on, and let me put him on,

584
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: and let me get and let me make that phone

585
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: call or you know what. I see they're doing this,

586
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: and I'll slide into people's DMS. But oftentimes that I'm

587
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: putting people on with because I don't want them to

588
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: get excited that maybe it doesn't go through. But oftentimes,

589
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: if I cannot do a thing, I'm passing it on

590
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes the company will connect with that person and

591
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: they won't you know, that person will never know and

592
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: I'll see that they got it. I'm like, yes, but

593
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm not like Hagar, I got it. Like I just

594
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: helped my friend Sondra. This organization wanted me to build

595
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: out this coaching program and they were like, we have

596
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: a grant for fifty to one hundred thousand dollars. I

597
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: did not have the capacity, but I knew Sondra and

598
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: she's amazing. That's what she does. She's got a nonprofit

599
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: and that's what she does. She builds out coaching programs

600
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: for large financial organizations. She got one hundred thousand dollars.

601
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: She said, Tiffany, you just got me a hundred thousand dollars.

602
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I did, I couldn't even remember. She

603
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: was like, girl, remember, I'm like no. But then I

604
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, yeah, months ago one hundred thousand

605
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: dollars for her organization. So I just say all that

606
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: to say like, it was just such a disappointment because

607
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, one day I will sit down.

608
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: Not today, bobo, but one day, one day, I will

609
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: sit down. And what I loved to do is I

610
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: love mentoring and I want to be a con do

611
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: it to make sure that you know that we continue

612
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: to be seen, heard and paid in this space. And

613
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: you want to be mindful of how you navigate. Not

614
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: that you should kissing anybody's butt, you know, but you

615
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: want to be mindful how you navigate because brands and

616
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: people are watching. I had one brand said that they

617
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: looked at all my social media back two years before

618
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: hiring me two years because they wanted to make sure

619
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't with the shits. And so, like, people are

620
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: watching and they're wanting to put you on give them,

621
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: give them the space and the grace to do so.

622
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's okay to be angry and be mad

623
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: and check someone, but make sure you're doing it for

624
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: the greater good and not just on some pettiness.

625
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: Amen. Absolutely, And I hope that we continue to support

626
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: each other. I mean I'm not saying that just because

627
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: you're a woman of color, Like we all have to

628
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: support you. Think the work has to speak for itself.

629
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: But let's not relish each other's downfalls and let's not

630
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: contribute to Like there's already enough forces work against us, right,

631
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: why add Why add to that and try to bring

632
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: someone down just to give yourself some perceived edge, to

633
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: give yourself some per like for a good tweet, you know,

634
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: to get a couple of It's just not it's really

635
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: not worth that. I mean, as we can see from

636
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Holmes and Carlos Watson, like the world will sit

637
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: us on our asses if we deserve it eventually, and

638
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: people will dance on those virtual graves. It looks like,

639
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: especially if you're a woman or a person of color,

640
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: because it's such a novelty, which is super depressing to me.

641
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Speaker 2: But I think that that's why it's important Tiffany to to.

642
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost like the extra burden of being

643
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: black in business. It is watching every p and every

644
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: queue you know, because it can be so easy to

645
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: step out of to step a little bit outside the line,

646
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: and to not be forgiven and not be let back

647
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: into the you know, the club, the circle.

648
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to give especially, we want to give

649
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: us a little extra grace space. I mean, it just

650
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: even had me thinking about like, remember you know, the

651
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: confience that he who shall not be named, you know, Yes, yes,

652
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish you well from Afar, you know,

653
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: because it's you know, ultimately, I don't want anybody, you know,

654
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: like like livelihood to be taken from them. That's not

655
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: the intention. Jesus, go ahead.

656
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, this is kind of reminding me

657
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: of Delianne Barros and what she just went through.

658
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my.

659
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: Delianne the money Coach. She was actually a guest on

660
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: BA a couple of episodes. Agoes to go back and listen,

661
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: and this was a very delicate situation and she I

662
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: think handled it as well as she could have. But

663
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: she I just saw an ig live one evening. She

664
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: had gone live and it was like, you know, this

665
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: person is stealing my work and they are passing it

666
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: off as their own, and I mean the evidence and

667
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: first of all, Delianne is an entire attorney, Like she

668
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: has a whole law degree. She only quit her job

669
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: just a few months ago, y'all. Like she is still fresh.

670
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: She's still fresh. I don't know why in particular, someone

671
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: would want to steal her work, but she had for

672
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: months been trying collecting evidence against this this other influencer,

673
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: and she named them in her post. Yeah, she named

674
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: them in her post. And I think my first inclination

675
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: was like, whoa, let me really listen to this, because

676
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want it. And the other person

677
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: is as a black woman, a woman of color, and

678
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: it sucks to see someone that you know, when you're

679
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: familiar with, get dragged in that way. But Delianne had

680
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: all the receipts and I and she also had for

681
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 2: months been trying to handle things outside of the public eye,

682
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: you know, privately, to get this person to acknowledge and

683
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: take down the work that they had, you know, passed

684
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: off as their own that was actually Delianne's. And then

685
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: it just was like way too far. It was like

686
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: an entire course that had been ripped off. And I

687
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't either, and what I and you know, one

688
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: of the many reasons I love Delianne Is. You could

689
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: see how it pained her to talk about it because

690
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: you know, she said it on her live and I

691
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: couldn't agree more like, there is plenty of there is

692
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: plenty of room for everybody. Yeah, like there's plenty of

693
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: people to help. We all have our unique voices and

694
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: there is room for everyone to succeed, I think. And

695
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: and the fact that there's more women of color coming

696
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: up in the personal finance. You know, the influencer space

697
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: is not something to be threatened by, and it's not

698
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: something to think that there's only so much work out there.

699
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: And Delian's like, I I didn't want it to be

700
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 2: this way, but there comes a certain point when you

701
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: have to stand up for yourself and get those get

702
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: those attorneys out there.

703
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I was, really, I was. That's what really paid

704
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: me that it was like, oh, I was another woman

705
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: of color you know, that did that to her and

706
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: then blocked her and like, you know, and then I

707
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: saw that because I'd gone to the woman's page and

708
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't say anything, but I just

709
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: was looking in my mind. And then now she's like,

710
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, she's she became private, that this woman's page,

711
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, since that's not you know, like

712
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: that's not gonna say you like, yeah, like the receipts,

713
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: Like for since she was on your web, there's no

714
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: way that you can keep someone like an attorney. Kid,

715
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: just watch the webinar and be like hmm, could take

716
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: your course and be like, here it is. How are

717
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: you going to know who's who? It could be anyone

718
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: that they send in so if you continue to sell it.

719
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: It just was because that's happened to me before. Literally

720
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: word for word, someone copied me so bad. I mean,

721
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: we're cool. Now someone copying me so bad they forgot

722
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: to take my name out o girl. Literally, I remember

723
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: when my sister told me this is one of my

724
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: literature challenges. My sister said, I think this lady another

725
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: sister and a sister who was my friend, like I

726
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: had spoken at her conferences like we was cool, we

727
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: was financial friends. And my sister was like, hey, Tiffany,

728
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: I think this is your literature challenge. And I was like, girl,

729
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: I did not invent financial challenges. She's like no, I'm

730
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: pretty sure. I was like, how can you know for sure?

731
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: She's like, your name is in it. I was like

732
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: my name. So I went to take the challenge and

733
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: it was like there was one line that said something something,

734
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: and that's why they called me the budget nistas. They

735
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: had forgotten. I was like, when I say copy paste,

736
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: she wasn't the first part. She's the second woman that

737
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: another black woman had stolen, like almost word for word,

738
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: like she had done an investment version, but she had

739
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: took my whole template. And I wrote her and I

740
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: was like, and she basically was like, you didn't invent challenges.

741
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: I said, I know, but I invented this one, and

742
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: you have taken almost every word and just switched out

743
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: investing investing. I'm like, that's cool. So she ended up

744
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: taking it down. The other woman ended up taking it down,

745
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: and then I saw her some years ago and she said,

746
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, she really apologized to me. Both of them did,

747
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: and so she just was like, you know, Tiffany, I

748
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: was in a really bad state at that point. I'd

749
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: hired like a you know, a young intern. I told

750
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: her to find some challenges online that we can use

751
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: as a template, and I guess she copied and pasted

752
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: and I was so embarrassed, which I can understand, and

753
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: I know she said I was so embarrassed. I didn't

754
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: want to, you know, I didn't want to face you.

755
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: And I was just like, honestly, you know, I mean honestly,

756
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: for here's this thing, I give extra space and grace assistance.

757
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: So both of them, I said, that's fine, and when

758
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: I see them, it's all good. You know, it's it

759
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: was unfortunate, but it didn't, you know, it didn't, you know,

760
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: didn't stop the train.

761
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: There's at the top of your list. I imagine for

762
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 2: people to refer business too, maybe they're towards the bot,

763
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: but they're.

764
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: Like because I use it. One of them in particular,

765
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: we used to partner and I used it's had a

766
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: lot of business her way. Then I was like, so

767
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: about that. We won't be doing that anymore.

768
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: It's not the pressure to get to you to where

769
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: you are lying and passing off work as your own.

770
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that is a real like we just have

771
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: to be real with ourselves. It can feel lonely out here,

772
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: and it can feel like everyone's everyone has the best ideas,

773
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: everything's already been done. How do I have something new

774
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: and fresh? But sometimes it's okay to just sit down

775
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: and take time to develop your own point of view

776
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: and differentiate yourself like any other business out there.

777
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: I hate.

778
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really painful to watch Delianne be in

779
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: pain talking about a woman of color. But she didn't

780
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: do any more than she needed to to. Yeah, she

781
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: didn't do anything else that she needed to do. I

782
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 2: thought she handled it really gracefully. And I my heart

783
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: goes out to even the other woman because you know,

784
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: I imagine it can't feel good to be a fraud.

785
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: It cannot feel good like it's hard to sleep, I imagine,

786
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: and that there is no future in front.

787
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: No, well that's the that's the name of the episode.

788
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: There's your future in front. Yeah.

789
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: Well it's a very short one. We all know where

790
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: it in.

791
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, now it's time to switch on over, I

792
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: think right, Yeah, maybe a word more sponsors. We have work,

793
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: more sponsors.

794
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 2: Let's hear from our sponsors. Tipping Yes today, Brand Ambition

795
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: is sponsored by all Right, should we do a boost

796
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: and break?

797
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: Yes? We should. So I just got two little like boosts.

798
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: One my husband went food chopping yesterday and he randomly

799
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: bought a bag of pistachios. And we're not kidding.

800
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: You've never had pistachios. No, here this is delicious.

801
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: They're so good.

802
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: Wait did you get the pre shelled ones or.

803
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: I did not for it? No, no, I'm working for

804
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: It's better when you work for it. They sure do.

805
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: When I tell you, first of all, look I've got

806
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: this is my full cup, and this is my I mean,

807
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: I am living my best life. I said, who knew?

808
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean I always seen the pistatio commercials, you know,

809
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: and I thought that were hil harrious. But yeah, I'm like,

810
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm into pistatios now whatever. You know.

811
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: Ice cream so good.

812
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: I loved chocolate chip, but I've never had pistasio ice cream.

813
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: I have to try that.

814
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: I cannot. I mint chocolate chip. I just have a

815
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 2: physical version, Like I don't really have toothpaste flavored chocolate.

816
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love the chocolate chip. And my

817
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: second boost is Oh. I was like, okay, Tiffany, I

818
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: want to get serious about taking care of myself. So

819
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: I went on ahead and hired a personal trainer. Oh yeah,

820
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: that comes to the house. I feel really fancy. And

821
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: you know what here So this is like a bigger,

822
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: broader financial kind of like lesson or word if you will.

823
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: My sister is over and Juliana, she is my housekeeper.

824
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know because I mean, she's not here

825
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: all the time. Anyway, she comes every two weeks and

826
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: she cleans and she's amazing. She's from Brazil and she's awesome.

827
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: We always have a chit chat, but she's she's amazing.

828
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: So Juliana came to clean that she comes every other Friday.

829
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: Then Nisha. Nisha is the cook I told you guys

830
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: about that cooks for me, like every every other day.

831
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: She brings like two meals from my family. Nisha is

832
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: West Indian. Her food is banging, okay, banging. She's making

833
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: lasagna tonight. I'm like, so, but I won't be eating

834
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: much of it because like I'm trying to do better.

835
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: But either way, Nisha came over that day, and then

836
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: my new personal trainer, Nissa, who's also a sister, young sister.

837
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: So Nissa came over and my sister Tracey was like,

838
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: now this is what I call black luxury. She was like, yeah, God,

839
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: Juliana helped you clean the house. Nissa's dropping off food

840
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: for the family and you're getting exercised by Nissa, And

841
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, I'm proud of Tiffany of Today,

842
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: because y'all know, if you just listen to some old episodes,

843
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: you know I was still buying pack panties until Mandy

844
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: was like, you know, you could just go to Marshall's.

845
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: Oh lord no, but I instantly thought of that time

846
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: when you were trying to find someone to help you

847
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: do your laundry. Yeah, and he felt guilty about doing

848
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: like a laundry service, and I was like, let's just

849
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: take your damn laundry ild, just drop it off.

850
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: Because I guess, well, well, because it wasn't. I didn't

851
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: actually grow up with money hang ups because my parents

852
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: were really good about that. It wasn't until the recession happened,

853
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Speaker 1: and when I lost everything, it made me so afraid

854
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: to spend because during the like four years when I

855
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: was really struggling, I used to literally think to myself,

856
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: I would add up how many times I had sushi

857
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: prior to losing everything. I would add up how many

858
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: times I spent money on something, thinking I could show

859
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: you sad two hundred dollars. Now I could show you step,

860
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: you know. So then moving forward, I was like, well,

861
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: let me not spend because I never know what's going

862
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: to happen, but it got really toxic and I was oversaving.

863
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I was too afraid, and it took a long time

864
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: for me to be like Tiffany. It's gonna take a

865
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: lot for you to be broke. You can do things

866
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: to take care of yourself. So I always have this

867
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: thing in my head, what is the money for? You've

868
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: taken care of your parents, You've paid off their house.

869
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: You've paid off all your debt. You've paid off your

870
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: house so you don't have even a mortgage. You paid

871
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: off your student loans, you paid off your car. Tiffy,

872
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: you and your husband are debt free, like toddlers. You

873
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: make sure you look. You have a college fund for Supergirl,

874
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: my stepdaughter. You have a college fun for my nieces

875
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: and my nephew. You're good. You donate back to charity.

876
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: You're good, like, what is the money for? You know,

877
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: you're set aside for retirement. You're good like, I think

878
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: you can get your laundry done, you know, so to

879
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: have niece to come. And what I thought is that

880
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say price is because sometimes things are not

881
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: as expensive as you think. My friend Cabro used to

882
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: push me to say, have you even priced it because

883
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: he's my fancy friend. He's like, let's go. As I

884
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: told him, I was like, I want to range Rover

885
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: one day. He's like, well, why don't we go test

886
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: drive it today. I'm like, I don't have range over money.

887
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: He's like, how would you know? Have you priced it?

888
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: We went, we tested over a range Rover and I

889
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: hated it. I didn't like the drive. He was like, see,

890
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: you would have spent the next five years hoping, wishing,

891
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: dreaming about a range Rover, not knowing that you didn't

892
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: even like it, you know, and so so price is right.

893
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 1: So Nisha is eighty dollars a meal, and a meal

894
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: feeds about eight people, six to eight people, so it's

895
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: like ten bucks of person. I'm like girl Juliana to

896
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: clean the house, and she came every week. It'd be

897
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: one thirty a week, but she comes every other week,

898
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: so it's one fifty. You know, I always give everybody tips,

899
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: but that's like the bear bones what they ask for.

900
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: So one fifty to clean my house is three floors,

901
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: I said, five bedrooms, three bathrooms. Yeah that's what she

902
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: charged it. But I always give her, like a really

903
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: good twenty five percent tip.

904
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Speaker 2: I know, everybody's a little house, just the main floor.

905
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: My good old neighbor Paulette comes over every other week.

906
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: I love sick and then and then Nissa herself is

907
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: for her to come every session is like if I

908
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: were to come to her, I think the session would

909
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: have been forty, but it's because she comes to me,

910
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: the session is an extra ten bucks, so it's fifty.

911
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's really fair, right, I was like these,

912
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean now, ten years ago, when I was broke,

913
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: this would have been way too much money. But for

914
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: me now, that's not an exorbitant amount of money. Fifty

915
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: bucks for a training session, one fifty to get the

916
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: house clean, you know, ten bucks a meal to have

917
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: like a home cooked meal cooked for us at home,

918
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: so much so that now I have her do my

919
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: parents on the weekend. She cooks like two meals for

920
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: them every Sunday, so they have like, you know, two

921
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: meals for the week, so my mom doesn't have to

922
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: cook as much. But I just say all that to

923
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: say that, like my boost is you know, allowing myself

924
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: and I'm giving you permission as well to spend the money.

925
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, like of course you want to be responsible,

926
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: but you also want to live well now and I

927
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: still struggle past that, but like, it feels good to

928
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: know that I have put things in place to make

929
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: my life more comfortable, that I've worked hard, and even

930
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: if I had it didn't work hard. If I have

931
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: the money to do so in a way that's responsible,

932
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: why not? And so I'm just trying to learn that

933
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: lesson for myself. So hopefully that'll be a little opener

934
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: for someone who's listening, Like, Okay, I can do it.

935
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: I can spend it ten to ten bucks.

936
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like once you move on to

937
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: fancy nuts like pistachios, you are well on your way

938
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: because them nuts are not cheap.

939
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: Okay, you know Superman bought those. He's fancy, well but lit, bougie.

940
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: Well treat yourself. I think that's amazing. I'm glad that

941
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: you've come a long way from pack panties.

942
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: When you get your underwear.

943
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: Now, Tiffany, what have we moved up to?

944
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: What if we moved up to? I just left a hubband?

945
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: Bye? Oh okay, I would never I want to be comfortable. Okay,

946
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to do a quick I have so many okay,

947
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: but I'm going to do a quick one because I

948
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: don't think I've shouted out this tool yet, but as

949
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: a new solopreneur who's getting who has like seventeen different

950
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: work personalities and income streams and stuff, I feel like

951
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm One of the first tools I invested in was

952
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: a service called Calendly like calendar with the l Y

953
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: at the end, and this has been the most I mean,

954
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: I just can breathe a sigh of relief whenever I

955
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: use calend Lee because they help you schedule appointments and

956
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: you can literally send someone a link and they have

957
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: access to your calendar. Now, my admin rocks. She knows

958
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: that my calendar was a little jankie jink, and it

959
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: wasn't it was my fault that I hadn't set it

960
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: up right. But once we got that all squared away,

961
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: Calendlee has been a dream and I'm able to schedule

962
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: everything from like podcasts recordings or podcast meetings to you know,

963
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: the free coaching sessions that I've been doing, and people

964
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: can add to my calendar and I don't have to

965
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: do the whole email back and forth with like here

966
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: are the dates and times, and it's like nine twenty

967
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Speaker 2: nine between one and two and two and three and

968
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: three and you know all that is gone. So and

969
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: I think calend Lee was a couple hundred bucks for

970
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: the year, and I think that was a couple hundred

971
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 2: bucks well spent. So if you are out there struggling

972
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 2: and you aren't using a calendar system like Calendar, there's

973
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: also schedule Once. I think that was also one that

974
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: I looked at, but I highly highly recommend it. It

975
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: really has taken a lot of stress off my shoulders

976
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: in terms of like keeping my calendars. Great.

977
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: Yes, honestly I love those tools by them yet, right,

978
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: so what are the tools you use? I use? I

979
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: use calendarly, we do sometimes, but we also use Slack,

980
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, for like interols. Right, so that's a tool.

981
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: What's another tool that you're like, Oh my gosh, I

982
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: love it.

983
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: Canva Yeah, oh yes, Canvra and we are sponsored by Canva.

984
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love Camera Canva Pro. I mean, get it.

985
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: It's worth every penny. It is worth every penny.

986
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: You see camera. You got a freebee with us because

987
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: we wasn't even and also too, I love you know,

988
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: I love help Scout. I don't know if you've ever

989
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: heard of it, but help Scout. So we started to

990
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: use help scout to do customer support for the Literature Academy.

991
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: So it's really a customer support tool, which is which

992
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: is an amazing customer support tool because you can have

993
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: like automatic responses. You can have like you know, people

994
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: can write when they write certain emails like I'm locked out,

995
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, you can just click a button and it

996
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: answers like you know, responses that you've already created. But

997
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: I love the help scout so much. I actually use

998
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: help scout for like my admin and I use help

999
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: scout because it helps us to organize our emails in

1000
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: such a way. M h it so you can like,

1001
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: literally we have help Scout really helps is if you

1002
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: have like different teams. So we've got like our customer

1003
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: support team, We've got our finance team, our our organization team,

1004
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: and then me and so we're all so think about it,

1005
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: like we're all at the post office and there's this

1006
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: different mailboxes. So something can land in my mailbox and

1007
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: I could just click move and it'll move it to

1008
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: the mailbox's supposed to be. And just because sometimes people

1009
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: will say, Hey, Tiffany, I'm locked out of the Literature Academy,

1010
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: and before it I have to be like, oh, I

1011
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: have to ce see the customer support team. No no, no,

1012
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: Now I can literally just move you on over to

1013
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Speaker 1: the Yeah. So it's really great. And then let's just

1014
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: say someone like sometimes people will DM me on ig

1015
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: and say, hey, Tiffany up with the academy, but I

1016
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: forgot my password. So what I can do is if

1017
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: they give me their name and email. You know, sometimes

1018
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: I can just I can type into the search bar

1019
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: and it'll search all for email boxes and I'm like,

1020
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: oh girl, it's right here, So help Scout to me.

1021
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: It might not make sense if you just have just

1022
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: you yourself, but if you've got multiple teams, honestly, especially

1023
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: if you like need customer support, oh my gosh. Help

1024
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: Scout is is Bay.

1025
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Speaker 2: You can reach us at Brownabission Podcast at gmail dot com.

1026
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Speaker 2: If you would like to pay for advertisements the freebeet

1027
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Speaker 2: it's a little taste, let him know if you go

1028
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Speaker 2: to help Scout that you heard from Brown Ambish.

1029
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Speaker 1: That's true.

1030
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Speaker 2: I love it, and that reminds me. We are putting

1031
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Speaker 2: together like a little list of BA faves for the

1032
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Speaker 2: for our new when we get our brand new website.

1033
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have ba phaves because it's there's just so

1034
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: many things that we use that, you know, like just

1035
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: evening like Riverside. You know where we put our where

1036
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: we do our podcast.

1037
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Speaker 2: On Riversides in the penalty box as far as I'm concerned.

1038
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: But let's not go there.

1039
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Speaker 1: Okay, never mind.

1040
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to do that big live event and they

1041
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: were just so it was just a little complex, Okay,

1042
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: a little complex.

1043
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I like, honestly, I'm not gonna lie. I

1044
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: like stream Yard. If we're trying to do stuff like that.

1045
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: Streamyard is the jam because Streamyard, you can if I

1046
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: go live on stream Yard, I can go live on Twitter,

1047
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: I can go live on Facebook, I can go live

1048
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: on YouTube and then also Streamyard the stream Yard platform

1049
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Speaker 1: all at the same time simultaneously. And it looks really clean.

1050
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: And I can literally have like things pop up, like

1051
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Speaker 1: and the link, the link can pop up. You could

1052
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: do like a scrolling link. You could put people in

1053
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: the green room and have them come up. It's yeah,

1054
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: stream Yard is pretty amazing.

1055
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: I feel like you need to do like an annual

1056
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: as a business owner, an annual tools check or be

1057
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: using the latest and the greatest what if you're struggling. Yes, absolutely,

1058
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: I love what I hang around for our or wait out,

1059
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Speaker 2: wait wait a little bit for our ba fhaves list.

1060
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: But definitely I think that there are some amazing tools

1061
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: out there. And Calendly is bay. Yeah, I will just

1062
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: leave it there.

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Speaker 1: It's been an amazing show. As per us, we got

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Speaker 1: it together. Thanks for dragging me out of my cave,

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Speaker 1: no problem. Don't forget y'all. You know we always always

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Speaker 1: have our BA QA. That's what comes up, you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of days after this episode comes out. So

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Speaker 1: if you have a QA for the BA certainly ask

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Speaker 1: us questions. We are a Brown and Vision podcast on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: You can slide into our d MS. You can go

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Speaker 1: to brannibisionpodcast dot com and click ask anything or email

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Speaker 1: us at just the always want I forget email Bannibision

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Speaker 1: Podcasts at gmail dot com. I don't know why, like

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Speaker 1: what you know what it is? It is because the

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Speaker 1: Twitter one throws me off, but like, yes, Brown and

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Speaker 1: Bison podcast.

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Speaker 2: Do I know if you guys know who owns the

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Speaker 2: brown Ambition handle on Twitter? Just like, come on help

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Speaker 2: us out.

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Speaker 1: We've been trying to ask because that would just make

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Speaker 1: my life easier. So I get to say the same

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Speaker 1: thing over and over. But yeah, we love your your

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Speaker 1: If you have a question about finance, question about careers,

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Speaker 1: question about answer jacent things like buying a house, investing

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Speaker 1: or whatever. In business, I love entrepreneurship talk, you know,

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Speaker 1: slide on into DMS because we will take care of

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Speaker 1: you on our second episode. And if you liked this episode,

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Speaker 1: and you know you did, I want you to drop

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Speaker 1: the link in the group chat. Okay, get your key

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Speaker 1: key on, you know, text it to your bestie, to

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Speaker 1: your mom, to your your work best friend, your work husband,

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Speaker 1: you know, because I see how we are climbing the charts. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're top one hundred in business on iTunes.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, nice checked that once in a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just checked. I was looking up something else.

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Speaker 1: I was looking, you know, that if someone had posted

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Speaker 1: their their status like on inside. I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: I know that hair. It's Mandy's so like you were

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Speaker 1: cut off because they were posting beers and I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: we're number of whatever we were and I was like

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Speaker 1: oh wow. Then it made me go, look.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, dope talk one hundred not shabby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're even, like, you know, close to

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Speaker 1: like top fifty. So we're doing awesome, all right.

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Speaker 2: Y'all gys on Friday for b a Q and a bye.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm