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Speaker 1: to you, right that's the number one thing. And a

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Speaker 1: quick congratulations to our guy, Colin Cowherd, who last night

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Speaker 1: was inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. I do

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Speaker 1: always said and frankly taught me when I was just

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Speaker 1: a young whipper snapper we got to ESPN at the

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Speaker 1: exact same time, was don't talk about what you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about, talk about what the most people want

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Speaker 1: to hear about. So look, I'll start with the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Last night was a complete beat down. One team is

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Speaker 1: trying to turn around their season, the other one seems

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Speaker 1: dead the water. And the one team is trying to

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Speaker 1: turn around their season came in with the inferior record.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson Ravens, come in not really competitive against the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: and today Chris Greer is let go.

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Speaker 2: But I I gotta take.

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Speaker 1: It's the word I'm looking for. I gotta take a second,

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Speaker 1: okay and call bs BS on something probably the most

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Speaker 1: powerful man in sports media had to say earlier today

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Speaker 1: was not research, not poorly researched, not research categorically misconstrued

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Speaker 1: or even false and designed simply to feed into the

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Speaker 1: narrative that the end of the day, the NFL is racist.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to that in one second. First, here's Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: the still head coach of the Miami Dolphins, summing up

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Speaker 1: the loss after the game.

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Speaker 3: That was that self inflicted wounds. That we've been putting

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Speaker 3: such an emphasis on, you know, all things related to

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Speaker 3: our operation, and in a critical fourth and fourth and

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Speaker 3: one where the you know, we're pretty fired up about

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Speaker 3: the defensive look. It was what we were calling the

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Speaker 3: play for. And that's flat out a controllable that our

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Speaker 3: team knows that keeps you from winning. So I rate

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Speaker 3: at nothing but our self inflicted wound.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's Oli Gordon. He slips, he falls, he

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Speaker 1: low bridges oncoming defender, causes a penalty and they don't

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Speaker 1: get the first down because of it. And then Oli

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Speaker 1: Gordon is yelling back an assistant coach. And again, if

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Speaker 1: you watch the video, Oli fell down. He slipped, but

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Speaker 1: again it still is your fault when you slip. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins were gonna change coaches at the end of

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Speaker 1: the year, regardless, the Dolphins are probably gonna have to

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Speaker 1: change quarterbacks at the end of the year or get

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Speaker 1: into the process of whenever they can get out of

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Speaker 1: to his deal, get out.

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Speaker 2: Of to his deal.

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Speaker 1: Chris Greer was fired. That should be mentioned. He's been

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Speaker 1: with the organization for twenty five years. In those twenty

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Speaker 1: five years, they have won exactly zero playoff games. He's

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Speaker 1: playoff games. And I'm not saying it's not difficult, but

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Speaker 1: I heard this earlier today on first take, and I

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why after you listen to Steven A.

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Speaker 2: Smith is BS. That's the first fire.

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Speaker 4: Really, that's what we're doing, what we've seen, what we

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Speaker 4: the personnel that they have on their squad, although we're

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Speaker 4: not we're not happy with it. We didn't walk into

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Speaker 4: this season thinking they were going to be trash. We

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 4: It was about Tua, it was about Mike McDaniel and

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Speaker 4: the brother get fired first. All I know is this,

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Speaker 4: I better hear Mike McDaniel's name today. I better hear

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Speaker 4: Chris Grere. And I'm not saying that he don't deserve

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Speaker 2: You knew you at the helm.

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Speaker 4: I got it. I understand it. Listen, I'm all for

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Speaker 4: brothers as head coaches gyms. We know what battles I've

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Speaker 4: been fighting over thirty years. Okay, I got it, all right,

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Speaker 4: but we go because when you don't get the job done,

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Speaker 4: you don't get the damn job done.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 5: I got it.

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Speaker 4: Don't tell me it's just him. Don't tell me we

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Speaker 4: gonna leave Mike McDaniel's in place, and we just gonna

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Speaker 4: fire him and we gonna move forward.

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Speaker 2: Damn that.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 5: I'm waiting for more news. I'm waiting for more news again.

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Speaker 6: I can't.

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Speaker 4: I can't defend Chris Grere with some of the decisions

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Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 4: I understand it's unfortunate, but I got it. But I'll

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Speaker 4: be damned if it gets to stop there.

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Speaker 2: Oh hell no, So we all heard the exact same thing. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to mislabel it. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: misassociate it. I don't want to treat it as anything

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Speaker 1: other than what we heard Stephen A.

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Speaker 2: Smith say. Steven A.

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Speaker 1: Smith said that though he thinks Chris Greer ultimately should

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Speaker 1: have been fired because he's black, he shouldn't be the

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Speaker 1: first one fired because the problems are with TUA and

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Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniel. Now, there's two different things that we

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Speaker 1: have to point out one, Mike McDaniel is mixed race.

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Speaker 1: His father, I believe, is a black man. Tua is Samoan.

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Speaker 1: So again, I'm not racist. I don't know how racism works.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. Apparently, in Steven A. Smith's world, because

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Speaker 1: then the Dolphins are racist against him more so than

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Speaker 1: against McDaniel and Tua.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the assumption.

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Speaker 1: He talked about the decisions that have been made he

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Speaker 1: doesn't agree with. Who was the general manager when they

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Speaker 1: Chris Greer, who was the general manager who told the owner,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Ross. It's either Brian Flores, who didn't like Tua

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Speaker 1: He built this entire roster, and the biggest flaw in

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Speaker 1: all of sports media is one of the things that

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Speaker 1: and is super embarrassing to any of us in sports media,

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Speaker 1: especially somebody who's the highest paid employee at ESPN essentially

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Speaker 1: calling the Dolphins races for firing a GM who they'd

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Speaker 1: held on for ten years despite the fact they never

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Speaker 1: won a playoff game. But here's the biggest mistake they made.

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Speaker 1: We are some of the players, We like some of

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Speaker 1: the players. That's because you don't like one he doesn't

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Speaker 1: know the roster. Second, it's not about the talent. The

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Speaker 1: most talented teams don't win. It's the best teams that win.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and they.

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Speaker 1: Made who made the decision to trade for for Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind you can criticize the personnel, the wide

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Speaker 1: receivers they've given to Pat Mahomes since Tyreek Hill was traded,

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Speaker 1: they've won two Super Bowls since he's been gone.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 1: Because you don't win just based on talent. You gotta

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Speaker 1: win based on guys that salary fits in and want

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Speaker 1: to be part of a team. Tyreek Kill didn't want that,

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Speaker 1: so they Chris Greer's biggest mistake, biggest mistake was drafting

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Speaker 1: to over Justin Herbert right. That ultimately is why he

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Speaker 1: gets fired. But the other mistakes he's made is he's

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Speaker 1: gone talent over character. They have some guys with terrible

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Speaker 1: tried to build. And the defense stakes and two is

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Speaker 1: not good enough and everybody knows it. But you have

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Speaker 1: the most powerful man in sports media.

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Speaker 2: Don't believe me.

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Speaker 1: Just ask him stating something which he's forgotten, that they

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Speaker 1: fired the coach last time to keep the general manager.

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Speaker 1: The coach was black, the general managers was black. Nobody

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Speaker 1: said anything about it except for Brian Flores, who sued

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. And so instead of actually talking about what happened,

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Speaker 1: how to fix it, who they should hire, you know,

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Speaker 1: or whatever, instead they label the NFL as racist.

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Speaker 2: And then there's nobody on that set that.

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Speaker 1: Goes like, uh, hey, you know, he was there for

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, he was the GM for ten. The

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Speaker 1: entire front office is actually black with the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: So they're not racist to hire and support and promote

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Speaker 1: Chris career, but they're racist to fire him. Instead of

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense to anybody with any sort

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Speaker 1: of brains. But again, the people that listen to stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith think worlds out to get black people. The NFL

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Speaker 1: is racist. That's why they fire Chris Career first, and

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Speaker 2: It's some other day, Jace do.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure did you hear the

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Speaker 1: around and tries to find things which people call racism

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Speaker 1: and you're like, it's not ra but like this is.

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Speaker 1: It's utterly ridiculous, and it's it's the type of thing

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Speaker 1: that I believe has driven people away from the rest

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Speaker 1: the broadcasting is based upon the actual sports, but the

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Speaker 1: race bating is tired, it's done, it's over, And this

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Speaker 1: one only proves that stephen A does no work, no

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Speaker 1: research doesn't actually care to do so. And then two

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Speaker 1: he plays that one card he always has, which is racist.

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Speaker 2: Did I miss something?

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Speaker 7: No, I don't think you missed anything. And I do

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Speaker 7: think that there needs to be some clarification from the

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Speaker 7: people over there at esp ON, like what what where

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Speaker 7: does the mixed race fall into this? Because remember Ryan

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Speaker 7: klarquast Fall said that Lamar Jackson needs to win a

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl for US. Lamar Jackson does when Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 7: is one four or five, right, Yeah, And in this situation,

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Speaker 7: mixed race Mike McDaniel somehow is left out of the equation.

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Speaker 7: I just don't know how that factors in here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just again, that's say that is a that

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Speaker 1: is a cultural argument that we can't That's one you

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Speaker 1: can't get into, right. I mean, look, nobody, nobody crushes

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Speaker 1: black people like black people.

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Speaker 2: Will do it.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the things about that A lot of

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Speaker 1: Season nine after an unbelievable run last year with the Knicks,

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Speaker 2: Trade it.

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Speaker 1: Got a question for you, guys, This is a real question, Okay, Dan,

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Speaker 1: and to put your headsets on there. I know you're

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Speaker 1: getting situated. You got other stuff to do. So we

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Speaker 1: played Kansas on Monday. Okay, their first exhibition, in our

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Speaker 1: first exhibition. We're both up on ESPN Plus. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: think they've both been taken down. Last night we played

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Speaker 1: an exhibition against Saint Norbert. They played an exhibition against

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Speaker 1: Fort Hayes State, I think two nights ago. I think

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Speaker 1: that was on ESPN Plus. But again, I think it's

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Speaker 1: been taken down. I don't think we you can. We

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Speaker 1: don't have the actual tapes.

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Speaker 2: So uh.

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Speaker 1: One of coach self's assistants asked, say, hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a tape exchange. Now it had not been pre

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Speaker 1: agreed to before. Okay, it's not like hey, we hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do its tape exchange.

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Speaker 2: It's all good. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: We play Monday, like their rank nineteen in the country,

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Speaker 1: we won four games last year. Do you give them

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Speaker 1: the tapes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Chase do sure? Well, you guys are just like sure.

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Speaker 5: Like the.

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Speaker 9: Well Jason was sure.

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Speaker 1: I said, yes, okay buy or why you you actually

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Speaker 1: gave a little thought. I could see your brain working

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Speaker 1: a little bit there.

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Speaker 9: Why well, it reminds me of Deadliest Catch. Every episode

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Speaker 9: they joined to work together, and then somebody finds Crab

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Speaker 9: and then I want to give up their secrets and

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Speaker 9: it's this whole deal. And then if you're out on

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Speaker 9: somebody and they found out that you're that type of

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Speaker 9: guy that lingers. You giving your game tape to Kansas

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Speaker 9: is probably not going to affect the outcome of Monday. However,

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Speaker 9: you not giving up your tapes will have a reputation

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Speaker 9: that could last I don't know throughout the college game.

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Speaker 1: Sure, And and I consider Bill a mentor and a

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Speaker 1: friend as well, and I don't want to sell you

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Speaker 1: that relationship. On the other hand, there is the like, hey, well,

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Speaker 1: Bill self calls and he called me this morning. I

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Speaker 1: haven't missed him because I was prepping for the show.

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Speaker 1: You know, he calls, you wants the tapes? Like, what

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Speaker 1: am I gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Here? Go like no, But do.

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Speaker 1: I think like if he was playing John Shire today,

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Speaker 1: would John Shire be like, I'm like you ay tapes?

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Speaker 2: Like what are you talking about? Yeah? It was definitely

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Speaker 2: Evy right right. They're Kansas. Yeah, but they're Kansas.

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Speaker 9: But it's also different like Duke in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: No, what do you what do you think? What do

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Speaker 2: you think?

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Speaker 1: What do you think it's worse to them? Ten grand,

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Speaker 1: twenty grand? I'm just thought here, let me ask Mark Dominic.

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Speaker 1: He's a former general manager of tamp Bay Buccaneers, who

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Speaker 1: joins us for his weekly visit Mark. We open the

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Speaker 1: season with Kansas, the most storied program in college basketball.

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Speaker 1: You know it's it's the place where James Nasmith is

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Speaker 1: the only coach ever to have a losing.

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Speaker 2: Record in the history of the program.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's they play in an absolute cathedral. They won

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Speaker 1: like it's your Alla Modern. They won like twenty straight

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Speaker 1: big twelves. He's won two national championships. I would my

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Speaker 1: guess would be they have thirty times what we have

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Speaker 1: in nil and that may be underselling. So coach South

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Speaker 1: politely asked for our exhibition tapes in a tape exchange?

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Speaker 2: Do you give it to him?

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Speaker 8: Who?

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Speaker 6: So again rock Kerry Hawk to start this off with, Well,

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Speaker 6: you know what, probably if it's something that you're consistently

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Speaker 6: done before with programs, I think it's never never done.

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Speaker 1: Last year when we played Oklahoma State, Yeah, we made

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Speaker 1: sure they didn't because when we play we played St.

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Speaker 2: Norbert every year. They're in our town. They're Division III.

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Speaker 1: So last year Anthony Roy, who by the way, now

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Speaker 1: plays for Oklama State, he made twelve his first twelve threes.

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Speaker 2: So we're like Oh god, I hope they don't see

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Speaker 2: that tape. Right.

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Speaker 1: We didn't even we ran a couple of things, but

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Speaker 1: he was just so good it was unbelievable. And he

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Speaker 1: ended up having like thirty two against Oklahoma State. But again, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't they hadn't seen that tape. I don't believe.

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Speaker 1: So it's not something it's not in the contract. We

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Speaker 1: hadn't previously agreed to it. But I mean, he's Bill

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Speaker 1: effing self and he's like, hey, let's switch tapes.

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Speaker 2: What do I say?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I would say that Bill is just something we

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Speaker 6: just don't do. As much as I appreciate it, it's

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Speaker 6: just something we don't do. And I'd feel good about that.

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Speaker 6: And he'd be like, well, what's the big deal. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I think you already have you know, a situation there

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Speaker 6: where you know, we're just walking in but we're gonna

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Speaker 6: stay with president. This is what we've always done. We've

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Speaker 6: rarely ever switched tapes, and I would I would do that.

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Speaker 6: That's then I would have the confidence to say, hey,

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Speaker 6: well I appreciate it, and uh, you know, but that's

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Speaker 6: just something we don't do. And I wouldn't think twice

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Speaker 6: about it. Because I don't think it's going to change. Uh,

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Speaker 6: the relationship you may have or don't have with Bill.

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Speaker 1: Self fair enough, I got I got some just deciding

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Speaker 1: to do here for the next couple of hours because

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Speaker 1: I know that phone's gonna blow up as soon as

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Speaker 1: we hit sin as we hit four Local Doug Gottlieb Show,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. The Dolphins, I mean, that's how they've

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Speaker 1: looked most of the year. Uh, and they have some

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Speaker 1: issues there. What are your thoughts on the Chris career firing.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm jealous because when I got fired, it wasn't

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Speaker 6: I thought it was a mutual decision too. But I

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Speaker 6: guess he gets to have the mutual decision and mine

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Speaker 6: was just getting fired. Yeah, you know, I'm not I

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Speaker 6: hate to say this. Chris is a guy that I've

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Speaker 6: known forever. Obviously, anybody that's been in the NFL has

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Speaker 6: known him since I think we got in the league

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Speaker 6: just about the same time, might be the one year sooner.

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Speaker 6: He's been part of that Dolphins organization for a long

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Speaker 6: time and and part of the decision making all the

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Speaker 6: way back to two thousand and three when he was

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Speaker 6: director of college scouting, and then he was you know,

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Speaker 6: the player personnel, and so he's he's been he's the

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Speaker 6: director of overall scouting, so he's been part of the

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Speaker 6: Dolphins for you know, two decades. At some point I

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Speaker 6: get it, like I understand where mister Ross said. It's

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Speaker 6: it's got to be part of the culture of the

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Speaker 6: team that we created and the culture of the team, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it comes through the head coach, but also is the

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Speaker 6: people that you bring him to the building. And I

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Speaker 6: think you've got to you know, you don't just talk

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Speaker 6: to you know, you know people around your organization. You

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Speaker 6: talk to players in your organization. You talk to people

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Speaker 6: that you trust in the organization and get a sense

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Speaker 6: of what are they saying. And it sounds to me

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Speaker 6: like and this is what I thought. I thought, either

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Speaker 6: they're both gone or just Chris goes. And then at

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Speaker 6: the end of the year, you know, then maybe you

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Speaker 6: make the change with the head coach to see if

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Speaker 6: anything else changes, and tweaks as players kind of going, wow,

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Speaker 6: the guy that drafted me's not here anymore. They got

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Speaker 6: to sign me as a free agent, or is not

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Speaker 6: here anymore, and you better step up your game because

577
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Speaker 6: you know the person's coming in. Goes, these weren't my guys, right,

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Speaker 6: So I think it's gonna be a what do we

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Speaker 6: see the Dolphins look like over the next you know,

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Speaker 6: weeks and months. But I don't think it's a quick

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Speaker 6: firing to the head coach. I think this one you

582
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Speaker 6: could play this one all the way out until December,

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Speaker 6: see where the team sits, and then make the decision there.

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Speaker 1: What got him fired the quarterback decision, the coaching decision,

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Speaker 1: or the lack of culture that they appear by all

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Speaker 1: reports to have because of some of the personnel they've acquired.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think I think what got him

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Speaker 6: fired was if you're just really looking at what they've

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Speaker 6: tried to build for the last decade, they just can't

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Speaker 6: seem to build ay through the sustainable and I think

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Speaker 6: mister Rosslick said it and goes, you know what the

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Speaker 6: offensive line is still feels like kind of a mess.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: The skill guys, Yes, we got jam and Wall right,

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Speaker 6: but we had to go get Tyreek Hill. You know,

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Speaker 6: do we where are we at? Skill wise? You know?

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Speaker 6: And I think it was just not the elite players

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Speaker 6: that you're not seeing, especially on the defensive of the ball.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's just good football players, but the elite

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Speaker 6: ones just aren't showing up. And I think there's been

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Speaker 6: enough draft classes to say who do you hang your

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Speaker 6: hat on? And so I think it's an overall I don't.

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Speaker 6: I never thought, and I think we talked about it.

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Speaker 6: I never thought, too, we should have a long term extension.

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Speaker 6: Thought would be like a two or three year extension

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Speaker 6: and kind of see what happens. I do think the

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Speaker 6: two of contract has to play into it somewhat because

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Speaker 6: you're just married to him and it is what it is.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's a bit frustrating too, because I'm

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Speaker 6: sure in the end he signed off on that, and

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Speaker 6: that's that's the decision you make as a GM. You

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Speaker 6: ride or die with your quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you, I understand the thoroughness by

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about in terms of your evaluation of

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Speaker 1: everything in the organization until the season's over. But I

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Speaker 1: think we'd probably both agree. If you're get rid of

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Speaker 1: the guy who built the team and was part of

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Speaker 1: the build for the last twenty five years, you're going

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Speaker 1: to change coaches. You're probably going to change quarterbacks as

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Speaker 1: well pretty soon.

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Speaker 6: I don't disagree. I think that that's more than likely

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Speaker 6: correct because of the fact that, look, you know, the

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Speaker 6: next person may hold on to him or you just

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Speaker 6: you know, eat it. I mean, that's the difference that

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Speaker 6: we have in the salary cap these days. When I

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Speaker 6: was gim over five years a salary cap went up

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Speaker 6: one million dollars or the five year period. You know,

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Speaker 6: Now we're seeing jumps of twenty twenty five million dollars

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Speaker 6: a year. So when you make a colossal mistake or

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Speaker 6: you admit a mistakes, you can survive it. You can

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Speaker 6: survive the Carson Wentzes of the worlds or whatever the

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Speaker 6: big deal is of the quarterback in now Latua, and

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Speaker 6: you just realize, we're just going to write that off. Understand,

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Speaker 6: we've got to make a change and change the direction.

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Speaker 6: So I do think two is probably done, But obviously

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Speaker 6: it's going to be up to the next season and

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Speaker 6: the next potential head coach.

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Speaker 1: Stet got leaves show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so then let's ask about the Baltimore Ravens. What can

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Speaker 1: we decipher from a team that had been kind of

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Speaker 1: lost now they've won a couple of row. They got

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson back. What's the hope like that they can

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Speaker 1: turn the season around, considering the defense has been as

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Speaker 1: much of the issue as the offense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think that they absolutely can turn

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Speaker 6: it around. I mean, the AFC North all lost, right,

648
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Speaker 6: so that's everything they needed to see happen, you know,

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Speaker 6: before their game on Monday night, and then you know

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Speaker 6: now that this team is they can continue to get

651
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Speaker 6: healthy er and start to play a little bit more

652
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Speaker 6: consistent like they did last than on defense. I still

653
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Speaker 6: think the Ravens make the postseason, and I said that

654
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Speaker 6: when they were one in five. I'm like, you've got

655
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Speaker 6: to look at their schedule and it feels like this

656
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Speaker 6: is a team that could really get all the way

657
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Speaker 6: there and get back. And I'm not going to count

658
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Speaker 6: out coach Harbon. I'm not going to count out Lamar Jackson.

659
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Speaker 6: So I think they're gonna role. I think they're going

660
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Speaker 6: to get back to five hundred in the next whatever

661
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Speaker 6: it's going to be four to five weeks, and then

662
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Speaker 6: I think that they'll find a way to get one

663
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Speaker 6: or two games over that market. I think they'll be

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Speaker 6: eleven in or ten and seven and be in the postseason,

665
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Speaker 6: and I think they'll be a scary postseason team. They

666
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Speaker 6: went to a slump and that's when you wanted to

667
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Speaker 6: kind of see what they do. But I don't think

668
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Speaker 6: they're going to fall back into that slump. I think

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Speaker 6: this team is legit.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark dominks

671
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Speaker 1: our guests. Of course, he's the former gall undred ten

672
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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Works his entire professional life like Chris Greer

673
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: working up in the system. He worked his way up

674
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Speaker 1: in Tampa, so there's a lot of similarities there here

675
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Speaker 1: on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, would

676
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Speaker 1: you re up Danny Dimes when you have all of

677
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Speaker 1: what he did with the Giants, the time with Minnesota

678
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Speaker 1: and eight games of success so far with Indy.

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Speaker 6: Not yet I got to see it play all the

680
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 6: way through. I want to see it in the postseason.

681
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: I want to see the whole picture. And I've got

682
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Speaker 6: the leverage to be able to do that if I

683
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Speaker 6: had to, you know, put the tag on him. So

684
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to be in a hurry to do this.

685
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 6: I'm you know, if I'm Chris Kreer. Excuse me, Chris Ballard,

686
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 6: I am, you know, ecstatic about this decision and what's

687
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 6: happened to our organization. And I've talked about, you know,

688
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 6: the entire offensive units as a whole is really playing well.

689
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 6: Tyler Warren has been a huge impact the offensive line

690
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 6: staying healthy, and obviously you know, the Alex Pearce's are

691
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Speaker 6: having career years right at the right time, and his

692
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 6: fourth year, so it's all coming together. But I don't

693
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Speaker 6: sit there and go, Okay, now, I've got to hurry

694
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Speaker 6: up and get a deal done, even if I have

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Speaker 6: to pay more, Doug, I'd rather pay more and know

696
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Speaker 6: rather than, oh, I'm going to get a Baker Mayfield

697
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 6: deal three for one hundred million. I'd rather pay forty

698
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 6: five to fifty million a year to make sure you

699
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 6: know that I'm getting a guy that I think can

700
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Speaker 6: do it for you know, eight to ten years, and

701
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Speaker 6: you know that's kind of the hope. And so I'll

702
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Speaker 6: pay more. But I need to see more, and I

703
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 6: believe in what I'm seeing, but I still want to

704
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 6: see it against bigger opponents, bigger stage, bigger situations, and

705
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Speaker 6: then we'll look at it.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottleeb Show on Fox Sports Radio Mark Dominic is

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Speaker 1: our guest. I'm trying to figure out Sunday Night football

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Speaker 1: because in the fourth quarter of the Packers look like

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl team, which they have occasionally previously. But

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Speaker 1: I also I think Pittsburgh's defense thinks which was Sunday

711
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Speaker 1: Night more a case of Pittsburgh's defense just not being

712
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Speaker 1: very good or the Packers kind of finding the rhythm.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, obviously, you know, we've talked a lot

714
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Speaker 6: about Jordan Love, and you know, he looked fantastic and

715
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 6: was doing everything he wanted to do. And I went

716
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Speaker 6: into the season believing in the Greenway Packers. I also

717
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 6: was the one going in the season believing in the

718
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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh Steelers and not just Aaron Rodgers. But I thought

719
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Speaker 6: the defense was going to be a big part of

720
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Speaker 6: what they're able to do, and right now it's not.

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Speaker 6: It's just not coming together. And again, it's that secondary

722
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Speaker 6: to me that they just can't seem to find the

723
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Speaker 6: right set of guys all at once clicked them together,

724
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Speaker 6: and so it's just very frustrating. I think that's why

725
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Speaker 6: they made the trade for Kyle Duggar to try to

726
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Speaker 6: get something else going on here. Within that organization to

727
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Speaker 6: fix the back end of the defense. I think that's

728
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 6: a big pieces of trouble and that's that's you got

729
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Speaker 6: to get through that first. They've got cash rushers. I

730
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Speaker 6: feel like they're you know, Peyton Wilson, they're inside linebacker.

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Speaker 6: May not be having a great season, but he's still

732
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Speaker 6: fitting his way to the ball. I just think it's

733
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Speaker 6: a secondary. I think that's why they made the move

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Speaker 6: for Kyle Duggar. I know he's on the you know,

735
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Speaker 6: the backside safety part, but they're looking for something to

736
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Speaker 6: kind of energize it and be more physical but also

737
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 6: be more disciplined. It's a Mike Commlin thing that you

738
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Speaker 6: would expect, but this is a Steelers defense, especially the secondary,

739
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 6: and any Steelers fans know never quite find a way

740
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 6: to get it fully correct. And I think that's what

741
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Speaker 6: we saw Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: We're only seven games in and he's been banged up

743
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Speaker 1: even for those seven games after missing his first year.

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Speaker 1: But you do you watch Danny Dimes who they had,

745
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Speaker 1: You watch Sam Darnold who they had, and you got

746
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Speaker 1: to ask yourself, did the Vikings make the right decision

747
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Speaker 1: at quarterback?

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Speaker 2: What's your opinion?

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Speaker 6: My opinion is I want to see more out of JJ.

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Speaker 6: So you know, it's it's it's one thing. Danny Dimes,

751
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Speaker 6: you know, was there, but he had the opportunity and

752
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Speaker 6: he left and I can understand why. But with JJ,

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Speaker 6: I just need to see more. Still, I don't feel

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Speaker 6: like the book is written on JJ. There's not enough

755
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 6: starts ready to his belt. And now that he's going

756
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Speaker 6: to be back and I think able to go out

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Speaker 6: there and run around. Let's see again, he's thrown forty

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Speaker 6: one passes in the National Football League total in his life,

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Speaker 6: you know, so until he gets a two hundred and

760
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Speaker 6: three hundred pass and attempts, it's really hard to write anything.

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Speaker 6: I know it's been frustrating. I know it's been one

762
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Speaker 6: good quarter, but I still think he's got it and

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Speaker 6: we'll get to see it this weekend and see how

764
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Speaker 6: they play. But I think that overall, I believe that

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Speaker 6: he'll be the quarterback in the future, and I believe

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Speaker 6: that they're in good hands, and I would stay maintained.

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Speaker 6: I would maintain that statement in with the game of

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Speaker 6: Detroit this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Demiko ryans he went to that place where it feels

770
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Speaker 1: like coaches only go when they're fighting for their job,

771
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Speaker 1: which is ah, the media is just negative. They're all negative.

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Speaker 1: Like we're talking Houston media. That's that doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: the most negative media. What's your feel for Dimiko Ryan's

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Speaker 1: year three after really having a tremendous year one, okay,

775
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Speaker 1: year two, and now some struggles in year three.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know they have had some struggles, but they've also,

777
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Speaker 6: you know, had some really nice, nice victories, certainly this

778
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Speaker 6: last one. He gets to the forty nine ers. They look

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Speaker 6: they had they they had rough starts, right, I mean,

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Speaker 6: they lose those first three games something by about you

781
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Speaker 6: know whatever, ten twelve points by the three games, and

782
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Speaker 6: so I can understand why there's a little frustration, but

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Speaker 6: they're fortunately they're in their division, which is them in

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Speaker 6: the colts, fighting for it, and although they're three and

785
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Speaker 6: four Dimico's, you know, I don't agree that to me

786
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Speaker 6: is just hating on us. I think that it's just

787
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Speaker 6: one of those things where I think that expectations were

788
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 6: to continue to see the acceleration. They haven't done that.

789
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Speaker 6: But it doesn't mean the meeting is against them, and

790
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Speaker 6: I don't think they will be. They've got a really

791
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Speaker 6: interesting game this weekend against the Denver Broncos that I'm

792
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 6: very fired up to see that they got back to

793
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Speaker 6: back AFC South games, which will be critical for them

794
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 6: to get back in this hunt. They're one of the

795
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Speaker 6: teams that I would have thought would be in the playoffs.

796
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Speaker 6: I thought they were in the layoffs at the start

797
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Speaker 6: of the season. It's going to be an uphill battle

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Speaker 6: because they still have some really tough ones. But they

799
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Speaker 6: got still both games against the Colts, and they got

800
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Speaker 6: the Chargers in the Chiefs game less. So there's a

801
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 6: lot of work to be done. But I think we'll

802
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 6: see consistency, but I think it might be a nine

803
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Speaker 6: and eight type of year.

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Speaker 1: Mark, you're the best man. Have a happy Halloween. Thanks

805
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: much for joining us. We'll talk to you next week, coach,

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Speaker 1: I said, Alope, I will do. I will do. So

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Speaker 1: that's Mark Dominic. If you want to come Monday, I

808
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: got a ticket for you.

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Speaker 6: I love that. I love that. I would love to

810
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Speaker 6: be there. The amazing congratulations, good luck. I'm sure it's

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Speaker 6: be fun.

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Speaker 2: That's a no.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that was an that was the nicest

814
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Speaker 1: nose of all time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks Mark,