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Speaker 1: studio tow down and Mike frost Man, y'all been in

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Speaker 1: by are, we put a down payment on the house

424
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: and we start our first girl operation. And I was like,

425
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: all right, let's get it. So you know, um my

426
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: buddy from early on who brought me the stuff, he

427
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: was doing it and he said, hey, listen, if you

428
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: want to do it, I'll set you up. Got set

429
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: up and my first harvest, I killed it. No, I

430
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: literally killed the plants. I didn't actually killing the ship.

431
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: Paul up like set us back exactly, set us back

432
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: for six months. B that's some goodass timing right there.

433
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: I prov I think thirstays I leave at you man,

434
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: thank you sir. So after that but I was like, bro,

435
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: what the funk are you doing? Because at the time

436
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 1: I'm mixing records, I'm going hanging out partying all fucking night,

437
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to grow weed. Well, I understand I

438
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: can't party off night trying to go read. This is serious.

439
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: This is a serious business. Now, all right, hats off,

440
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go get to work. Six months later,

441
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: I get the right recipe, I get the right ship,

442
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: I get the right equipment. Every ninety nine days, we're

443
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: killing twenty five pounds boom every ninety nine days. Problem is,

444
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: you want to get twenty five pounds, what sh I

445
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: can dump that off to one person. It's not including

446
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: Bernard's people. So now I need um. I was telling

447
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: them I was selling them for fifty six hundred, but

448
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: OAR was hostelling them for four thousand. So I could

449
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: get I could get six d qp four hundred from

450
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: like my homeboys and ship, so I could get fifty

451
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: six hundred all day long for a pound. I just

452
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: had to break it up four times and I'd get there.

453
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: But what the problem was is we would sell twenty

454
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: five pounds and we don't have anything to replace it.

455
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: So those people are going someplace else to get that weed. Now,

456
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: so how do we get more weed? We we got

457
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: to open up another grow house, so let's go open

458
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: another one. So we figured out that with twelve. So

459
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: we figured out with twelve grow houses, you could have

460
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: one come down every week because you off set it right,

461
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: So one week, plan house is growing, Next week you

462
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: plan another one. Plan house is growing. Next week you

463
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: plan another one. Plan house is growing. So twelve weeks later,

464
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: every week you're popping off pounds. How many? How many

465
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: of these? And how what was your goal? Did you

466
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: have an in goal? A number of mindset? I want

467
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: to let me tell you, well, it's the best time

468
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: in my life. I do it again in a heartbeat.

469
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: If my mom wasn't alive, I swear to God, will

470
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: sign me up. I'm ready to go right now. It's

471
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: legal now, right? And how do you feel about the

472
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: fact that you did seven years for for something that

473
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: they have legalized, people are making money or it's over

474
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: a ten states has has legal marijuana now and they

475
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: said it has medical locked you up for seven years

476
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: for that, Well, let me tell you a funky story

477
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: behind that in just a second. But at the time,

478
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 1: we were doing stuff. There was no end game because

479
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: we didn't see that far into the future. We could

480
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: only see twelve weeks ahead where that harvest ended. Right,

481
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: because at the time Pops was in a nursing home.

482
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: He needed twenty five grand for his surgery. You gotta

483
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: take care of all your family members who've been taking

484
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: care of this whole time. Remember that thirty grand a

485
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: month bill that's still been rolling, you know. So basically

486
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: you're living harvest to harvest. You're not like bawling. Yeah

487
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: I got Courtside Rocket tickets, but I just put it

488
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: in the budget. Yeah I got a six cunder bins,

489
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: but I just put it in the budget. Should I

490
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: learned from electric put in the budget in the budget

491
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: and figure out how to go make that money for

492
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: that budget, it'll be all right. My brother always said

493
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: that there was never a budget that I never ever

494
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: got to exceed that I didn't want to do. So

495
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: I could always spend the money very very very quickly.

496
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: So three homes, three cars, Austin boat, uh parting every

497
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: night five six thousand a night, like just dropping it

498
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: this cash, I mean, I can't take it with me. Meanwhile,

499
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: my brother, he's a fucking nut, squirreling in a way,

500
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: stacking it all, kind of sucking stashbots in the house.

501
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: We get arrested, my second arrest, he says, go in

502
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: the fireplace when you get out, and reach up under

503
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: there and then look to your left and pull out

504
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: that bag and get me like what the fuck? So

505
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: I go to the house and sure enough, in the

506
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: fireplace up to the left, this motherfucker's got some money

507
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: stacked all in the fucking walls. You would go into

508
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: the you would go into the A C. Register, and

509
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: inside the register, he built shelves to stack the money,

510
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: because who's gonna check inside the A C. When he

511
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: would hide dope. He had hied dope in the shower,

512
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: because who's gonna look in the shower. My brother was

513
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: on another level. Why motherfucker's were trying to figure it out.

514
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: My brother was on the branding. Why if you had

515
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: a favorite weed and you came into town and you

516
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: needed five pounds and he knew your favorite ready just

517
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: right on the back for you and hit you for

518
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: that extra body. My brother was on such another level

519
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: on the illegal side. I always the business man. So

520
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: when you have when you have that as a backup,

521
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: you go spending freely. I know my brother got me.

522
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: I know my brother got me. I don't worry about

523
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: I know my brother got me, right. And so that's

524
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: the way my brother and I have always been bonded together.

525
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: You know, our relationship was galvanized early on. And then

526
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: we get you know, I get arrested the first time.

527
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Would you get arrest for? So I go to the

528
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: MTV Music Awards right bawling. At the time, snow Queen

529
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: Vodka was our sponsor, so we had a little extra money.

530
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: And so I get a phone call from Bernard he said,

531
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: by the way, I got Ken Shaffer on the line.

532
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, what's going on? Mr Shaeffer? He says, Brian,

533
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: when you come into Houston, you're probably gonna be arrested.

534
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, what four? He said, Well, the

535
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: Harris County Sheriff's Department has uh rated your house and

536
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: found some marijuana plans. How on the fund did my

537
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: house get ready? Only four people know about my house, me,

538
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: my priest, my brother, and my ex. I did the

539
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: priest do it? Because so this dumb bitch, She starts

540
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: Pillow talking to her new husband. Six months after we

541
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: break up, he gets caught smoking crack in the school zone. Right,

542
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 1: He's got a little side piece. Little side piece tells him,

543
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the guy i'm fucking is the chief detective.

544
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: Are the are the sergeant for the Houston Police Department.

545
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: He can get you off to any case. So he

546
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: goes and tells him, I know this rapper who's growing weed.

547
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Can you help me with my case? So they bring

548
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 1: a dog to my house. They say, the dog reacted right,

549
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: what was the probable called not to cut off? That

550
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: was the probable call. The dog, the dog reacting with

551
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: the probable calls all day just stuck that case right

552
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: up their ass. So we're about to get that case.

553
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: We're about to get that Listen. He put the dog

554
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: up there. He said, how many times does the dog

555
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: get positive? They said, we don't keep those records, y'all don't.

556
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: What's the difference between a trainer and a handler? What

557
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: do you mean? I mean? It was straight gangster ship

558
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: that you see in the movies for real. He goes

559
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: after it. At one time he said, hey, listen, I

560
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: can't do with your brother. Either you have him represents

561
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: you or you have me represents you. But I can't

562
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: do both of y'all. I mean, it was that type

563
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: of level of thought that was going on. So we're

564
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: going which one of your he couldn't do. He couldn't

565
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: do Bernard because I was already signed to him. See

566
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: one thing about he got James Kennedy. If kid can't

567
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: do it, he's gonna tell you straight up. If he

568
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: can't do it, he don't tell you straight up. Well

569
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: he could, and he's not gonna take your money and

570
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: not give you results straight There's a reason he's number one, y'all.

571
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: If y'all ever get in trouble, can't shafer? Yeah, yeah,

572
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: And we're not talking about no dope boys stuff. We're

573
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: talking like billionaires. And I'm a yeah man ship, y'all welcome.

574
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: Can I get executive producer credit? No? But so we're

575
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: about to squash the first case, right. He says, do

576
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: not get arrested, toe down, whatever you do. I'm a

577
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: good little boy. I got all the weed out of

578
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: my house. I'm just going to the Rockets game hanging out.

579
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm not even selling the dope anymore. I'm just going

580
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: to the studio to record. I'm not reallyving fucking with

581
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: the stuff. So I'm laying in my road with night

582
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: piece in the bed. I got some party stuff on

583
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: the ons, stuff bro the cocaine, the ecstasy cocaine. Yeah,

584
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm relaxing. I'm relaxed, relaxing. Yes. So I got my

585
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: two cousins in the house right there, chilling. I'm here

586
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: in the of course, they're rolling blunts because I got

587
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: all the premo stuff from the girlhouses. I get all

588
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: the choice nudge brought in. Why not go at it.

589
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: They're up there, they're sitting there, rolling up. I'm here

590
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: in the doorbell going off. She says, who's at the door.

591
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, ten o'clock at night? The fun is

592
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: at the door. I'm in my road, you know, come on?

593
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: He opened the door. Fort Ben Sheriff's Department opened the door. Damn. Now,

594
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: at the time, I started watching these stupid ass videos

595
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: how Never to Get Busted, And there was just dumbass

596
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: white dude on there, and who had this dog training ship? Right,

597
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: it was always in the back of these high time

598
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: magazines where I was looking to buy seeds. Anyway, so

599
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: I kept seeing this ship how Never to Get Busted

600
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: DVD two Never, So I get this ship right, and

601
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: you know he's explaining some gangster ship at the same

602
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: time he's explaining some stupid ship. But this this, this point,

603
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: I took the heart. He said, if you ever get

604
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: confronted by a police officer, you don't want to open

605
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: the door because if they open you open the door,

606
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: they smell something that's probable cause, he says, So to

607
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: prevent that, just kindly tell them. Have your dispatcher called

608
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: me on the phone and explain my warrant. Move back

609
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: to my scene, my house, Me in the road at

610
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: the front door, Cheff car Sheriff Department, open the door.

611
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Can you kindly get out? Get out? I get the king,

612
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: my fat ass to the back room, trying to dump

613
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: that ship in the toilet as fast as I can.

614
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: I get the plate. Before I get the plate and

615
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: put it in the in the damn fucking toilet. The

616
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: dudes on top of my back, I'm laying flat on

617
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: my back on my bad like all right, don't move.

618
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, my dog is loose. Bits. You left

619
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: the front door open. That was the scene that night

620
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: for my second arrest. So I go to the Fort

621
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: Bend County. No yet, because I don't have no fucking

622
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: weed that I'm being arrested for. Why are y'all even here.

623
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: We went to your brother's house and in his sixty

624
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: square foot to state we found twenty five motherfucking lights growing,

625
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, fifty pounds of marijuana. Yeah, what does that

626
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: have to do with you? Exactly? Well, they thought that

627
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: I just moved it from my house to my brother's house,

628
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: but I didn't. We grew out. We grew The first

629
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: house is together at the same time that one was

630
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: just still running because we have Ken Schaeffer. If you

631
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: get Pop, go get Kent, you get out, no problem.

632
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: That's the game plan, right, So listen, grow weed, save

633
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: you up some stash in case you need a lawyer.

634
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: You get Pop, go, spend the money on the lawyer,

635
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: you get out. We thought that was the game plan.

636
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: Well apparently not on my third arrest, right. So Pops

637
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: is in the old Folks Home. He diing he needs

638
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: a surgery for twenty grand. We just got busted. It

639
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: cost a hundred and twenty five for each of our bonds,

640
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: plus can't shaffer that's another three at the end of

641
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: the day. That was with the federal ship too. Although

642
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: in the federal he can't do stuff because his hands

643
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: is tied. Because that's the whole racket in itself. So

644
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break that down to me. Well, i mean,

645
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: when the Fits come get you, they got you, yeah,

646
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: because he can represent federal court though here he can.

647
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that, like I've had conversations

648
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: we can't about the Fits, and he's like with the Fits,

649
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: and like you're on the chart with the police on

650
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: a hunch. Oh, come kick down, you're doing ship. Now

651
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: you gotta go through all this bullshit watching watching, They're

652
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: listening for weeks, months, years. When the motherfucker's come. They

653
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: put the cameras on top of the lighthole to monitor

654
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: the studio so they can see all the cars that come,

655
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: and then they would go get other lightpoles in front

656
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: of their houses to to monitor what they were doing.

657
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: So my brother he would go to Kroger for poker

658
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: night every Thursday and Saturday night over at the studio,

659
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: and he had bringing a whole bunch of Kroger bags, right, Well,

660
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: they thought his fat ask was bringing in dope and

661
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: the Kroger bags. They were totally off on everything that

662
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: they did. But the problem is that you're in an

663
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: orange jumpsuit in front of a jury. You think you're

664
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna win the prize for the same offense. You know

665
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I know I'm I'm gonna I'm

666
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: just gonna sit down. I'm looking at a five or

667
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: ten piece. I know I'm going, But damn did I

668
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: bring my brother with me? I bring my cousin. At

669
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: the time of my rest, there's twenty one girl houses,

670
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: seven of them got popped, had one girl houses, and

671
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: you didn't have a goal, which is just just because

672
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: just like that happened, because stuff like that happened. We'll listen,

673
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: when when your dad is dying, when you already spent

674
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty tho dollars on the lawyers, the

675
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: car builds are due another thirty thousand on a monthly notice. There,

676
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And then like that? But

677
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: they're depending on you too. But here's here's the thing.

678
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: This is, this is one thing that I just failed

679
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: to get from a lot of guys in the game.

680
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: A lot of times guys don't have a plan. They

681
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: just the only plan they have is to sell more

682
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: drugs and buy things, you know, and that's it. But

683
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: they don't have an exit strategy. They just go in

684
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: and they're just doing. It's like it's gonna last forever.

685
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: It's not a real job, it's not a real career.

686
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: You're involved in criminal activity. At some point, you get

687
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: a hundred houses a thousand, at some point you got

688
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: to know that you're gonna get popped. And I think

689
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: everybody is aware that the odds are very bad for

690
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: guys who get to retire in the game. But still

691
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: nobody were not nobody, but very few people actually has

692
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: an excess strategy. So here's my rest verse reward thing. Right,

693
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: I calculated in my head how much money would I

694
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: be okay with to go do prison time per year?

695
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: And in my number was half a million bucks. So

696
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: I knew, this year, what are you willing to do?

697
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: What are you willing to do for that? Right? For

698
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: that five meal piece? How much time is that five

699
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: mil piece worth to you? Right? Right, I'm cool with that.

700
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: That means I gotta have five meal put up. Right,

701
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: So as long as that was there the risk verse reward,

702
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: how can I get to five million? A sup? I

703
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: was prepared to do ten years as long as I

704
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: could get to that five million, you catch, and my

705
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: first house produced My first the first house Bernard was in,

706
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: the six square foot was produced ten million a year.

707
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: That's um after the end of the day, probably about

708
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: three million of that. But you know, again, Bernard was

709
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: a different animal than I was. So the excess strategy

710
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: for me was always ever Bernard wants to do, and

711
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Bernard had franchise ideas lined up. But when you're making

712
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: so much cash money and you compare that to a

713
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: franchise like Dominoes, it's like, we're gonna go through all

714
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: that headache, make sure nobody's stealing the fucking pizza out

715
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: the back, and be there twenty four hours a day.

716
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: All that, let's just grow some more dope. Uh how

717
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: much of a toe? And well, I know you'll be

718
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: candid too. I don't think you have a probably asked

719
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: me this question, how much of a toe do you

720
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: think that had on your parents health? You guys going

721
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: through So I'm a product of old sperm. My dad

722
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: had me when he was forty eight, so my dad

723
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: was already elderly. When I was picked up from elementary school,

724
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: they said, yeah, that's your grandfather. So you know, dad

725
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: had a you know, you know, all fucking you know truth.

726
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: He married someone twelve years younger than him so that

727
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: she would make sure that somebody would be able to

728
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: take care of him. So my mom and my dad

729
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: were already up there in age when we are already

730
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: doing this. You know, we had already been successful in

731
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: the music business. The whole weed thing was something we

732
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: did on the side to help our family and our

733
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: friends have extra income. Hey, I just lost my job.

734
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: I got a baby on the way, can you hook

735
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: me up? I got a house cool, I'll bring in

736
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: the girl equipment. You run the stuff, I'll teach you

737
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: how to do it. We'll split it fifty fifty. When

738
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: it comes down, I'll come pick up the weed. I'll

739
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: bring your cash. You're good to go. And so most

740
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: of my family members said, can I get a job?

741
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: Can I get a million dollars a year? And so

742
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: that's basically what it was, right, It was me helping

743
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: out other people. Are there any of those people that

744
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: you helped out who who did well? Who took the

745
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: money and ran and are doing well with all main

746
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: ship and all of them all of them turned Did

747
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: this get up on the witness stand, did you did you? No?

748
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: I didn't. I was testing them that I would go

749
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: to trial. I push that on them, you know, trying

750
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: to play my cards. But I don't have very many

751
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: cards to play, but I was pushing it like that.

752
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: But then you see your So in the federal system,

753
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: in any court system, you get a thing called a discovery,

754
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: and the discovery lays out how they how they put

755
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: the case together, so you can figure out who Jim

756
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: Bob was talking to, at what time in the morning,

757
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: what was going down. So you get your discovery and

758
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: you and when you see federal witness and then they

759
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: give up the game and you're like, wait a minute,

760
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: that can't be Kevin can it? And like wait a minute,

761
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: that can't be Josh can it? And they're like, wait

762
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: a minute, that's my own cousin's paperwork, transcript buddy transcript

763
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: name on it. But just to be real, their family

764
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: is telling them, Hey, you do what you need to

765
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: do to make sure you're right, but you can't blame

766
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: them for that. You can't. Yeah, but you got down

767
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: with it, though, man, that you knew everything. He would

768
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: tell him. He would. He even told him, Hey, we've

769
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: been arrested twice. We're about to crank it up again.

770
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: The likelihood of us getting caught is extremely high. Are

771
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: you in? And they would be like that, yes, let's go. Yeah,

772
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't blame the parents of the family

773
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: and friends for giving them the advice to look out

774
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: for yourself. But you can't blame the people who who

775
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: took that chance and said, I know what it is,

776
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm signing up for this. You you can't hold that

777
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: that person should be held accountable because, man, you go

778
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: out that man, and you know what it is. If

779
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: you do something, man, do your time, you know, do

780
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: your time space the consequences. You know, it's too many

781
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: suckers out there, man, there's too many people out there

782
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: that that wanna you know, ball light and have fun

783
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: and kick it when everything's going good, and then when

784
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: they go back, you know, yeah, should change. Yeah. Bard,

785
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: he's you know, a little bit larger than me. He's

786
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: in his underwear and sitting out handcuffs behind his back,

787
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: chilling on the front porch, and he gotta worry about

788
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: family members that are about to turn on him. That's

789
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And listen, I've told you.

790
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: I told him early on, Hey listen, I'll do all

791
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: the time. Give me all their time. I'll do it myself.

792
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: If you just let my family go, I'll do twenty five.

793
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: I want to have a problem with it. And now

794
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: in that but they said, hey listen, if you don't

795
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: sign this plea agreement, if you gave one dollar to

796
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: your mom, we're gonna get hurt too. And they twist

797
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: and they turned until somebody starts talking, oh, you got

798
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: a gun and you were caught with these Tarryo brothers,

799
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: where there's another five years just for you. Buddy, you're

800
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna do fifteen years for the Terryo brothers what they

801
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: do for you. Man, you'll be on six months. Just

802
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: write this statement. I did so. Um. I was sentence

803
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: to eighty seven months. My brother was sentence to seventy months.

804
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: Uh thanks to President Barack Obama, he signed in the

805
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: law that ten uh non violent drugon finders could get

806
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: received ten percent off their time. So that's what gave

807
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: me the idea for should have been. So here comes

808
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 1: this thought non violent drug offenders. Why are they doing

809
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: fucking time? Why is anybody doing time for dope? Why?

810
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: When I got arrested. The arresting agent said, you know,

811
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: in five years, this is gonna be legal. I said,

812
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: why are you even arresting me? Then he said, because

813
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: it's the law. So it's funny how they always say

814
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: it's the law until they break the law themselves, because

815
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: they loved breaking the law. But he knew what the

816
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: outcome was when he was arresting me. You knew this

817
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: is a bullshit. They were betting on how much time

818
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: I would get, the arresting officers that were betting on

819
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: how much time I would get. Man, I'm gonna tell

820
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: you when I saw it, when I saw that damn headlines,

821
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, I didn't laugh. I didn't laugh.

822
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't laugh about ship like that because I know

823
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: it's I know how serious it is. But when I

824
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: saw it, I was like, the fuck whoa? You know,

825
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: like you have been over there before you did fucking

826
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: but not. The coolest part is I had no fucking

827
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: idea that you was, you know, that big in the

828
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: game like that. You you had a fucking Mokia named

829
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: after you. Bro like the Terio drug trafficking organizing with

830
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: the reco Act bro hold on, I'll go ahead, No no, no.

831
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: So when we're getting sentenced, you're in the FEDS, you're

832
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: done on a chart, right, So on the side there's

833
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: numbers that go down. The further the numbers go down,

834
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: the higher your sentence gets. Okay, yeah, level Kin Schaffer

835
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: and I are standing up there together while I'm being sentenced, right,

836
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: Ken has certain levels marked off where he thinks we're

837
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: gonna be at, you know, thirty six months, twenty four months,

838
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: eighteen months, like all right, Judge starts speaking. He says,

839
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: and we're gonna give you four points for being a

840
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: leader organizer and the Tario Drug traff Fingal Organization. And

841
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: when I give you one point for maintaining a place

842
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: of manufacturing, my number went from twenty four eighteen, it

843
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: went all the way to thirty six, fifty six, seventy

844
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: eighty seven. I was at eighty seven months. I got

845
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: four point enhancement for being a leader organizer and something

846
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 1: that a bunch of fucking dope Edge went and started

847
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: growing some weed. We're just friends. We're not no organized

848
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: organizes at least thing. I couldn't get five guys together

849
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: to come help me cut the weed. It's harvest time, bro,

850
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna be smoking. Everybody hated cutting weed because you

851
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: had to cut it all at one time. It was

852
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: a twelve hour said, and you were sucking. You were like,

853
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: they're with scissors for twelve hours, and everybody hated it.

854
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: So we're bringing people we had put you know, we

855
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: would take glasses and we put tape on the inside

856
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: the glasses, and we put you in the car and

857
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: we drive you around five or six times and pull

858
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: up to the house. You start cutting, and twelve hours

859
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: later you come out and everything that you are on

860
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: just sticky and smells like weed. You can't get it

861
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: off you for a couple of days. Like wherever you go,

862
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: you just smell like a pound of weeds. Boys and girls,

863
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: if anybody offers your job that requires you to be

864
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: blindfolded to go to the sward. These were people that

865
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: we knew, but we didn't officially trust all the way, right,

866
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: you know, people you play poker with, or people you

867
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: trust enough, like hey, man, you need some extra money.

868
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: You hey, you need bucks and all the week and

869
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: you can smoke in a night. Come on, girl, boys.

870
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: Reloaded podcasts will be right back after the poet. But

871
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: so let's talk about dopeheads and f t s. This

872
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: is your you guys, it's joint venture. Uh I saw

873
00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: what a Johnny Cash is your executive art director. How

874
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: first of all, how did all of that came to be?

875
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: And how did you guys come to hook up with Johnny? Okay?

876
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: So yeah he got so um. When I'm locked up

877
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: fighting this case first the federal government and they call

878
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: out law library, law library, and you get your pen

879
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: and pad and you go to this law library that's

880
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: in the Federal Correctional facility, and you think there's gonna

881
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: be some tools and equipment there to help you mount

882
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: an attack against the federal government. And you look at

883
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: these old asked books that look like your granny's encyclopedias,

884
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, they're using Google, they're using snitches,

885
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: they're using everything at their disposal. And I'm supposed to

886
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: use these books in mind an attack against the federal government. Yeah, man,

887
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: I'll just take my paper now. That's how I felt,

888
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's a shifty feeling to have.

889
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: So I said, the next major thing that I do,

890
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: if I ever get a chance to get the spotlight,

891
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: just one more time, Jesus please I'm gonna help free

892
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: non violent drug offenders. There's no reason why you should

893
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: be doing time behind some fucking dope. And so that

894
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: was there for real thank you, real talk bro. The

895
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: truth part about it that the same people that's locking

896
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: you up they do drugs too, every weekend. So that's

897
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: where the idea came from. Then at the time, my

898
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: brother and I were released from federal prison seventeen. But

899
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you want to do. I'm like,

900
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: let me give it one more shot at this rapping ship.

901
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: You heard some of the songs I was doing all

902
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: the country ship all that. So that wasn't making us

903
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: enough money as my brother flipping houses. So my brother

904
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: and I start flipping houses, doing the real estate thing, putting,

905
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, putting some good paper in our pocket. COVID

906
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: hits kind of get shut down a little bit. I

907
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: end up getting my real estate license during this time.

908
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: But I started messing with this thing called cryptocurrency, and

909
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: I start making a little bit of bread, just regular cryptocurrency,

910
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: putting a little bit of money in and multiplies taking

911
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: it out. At the very beginning, I was just on

912
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: bitcoin and ethereum, on robin hood. So they weren't even

913
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: my coins. I was just on their platform and I

914
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: didn't even get to possess the coins. So I learned

915
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: crypto in about a year passed by, and I'm sucking

916
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: with these things called n f t s, and I'm

917
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: getting in these community discords, and I'm getting on these

918
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: pre cell white lists, and I'm able to to buy

919
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: these n f t s before everybody else, and then

920
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 1: as soon as the cell ends, I'm able to flip

921
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: these for five and ten times the amount. So an

922
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: n f T is a non fungible token, So that

923
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: just means it's it's something property you can't touch. So

924
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: think of it as this. Think of it as like

925
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: a digital trading card. Okay, digital trading like a jose

926
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: Can Saco rookie might not be as much work as

927
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, compared to a Johnny Jim Jim Jim ha rookie. Right,

928
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, they're both baseball cards, but one has different value.

929
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: And that's what non fungible means, one having different value

930
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: but being of the same. There's there's actually that's and

931
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: that's the current state of people's understanding of it. But

932
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: the underlying technology of the n f T it's actually

933
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: can replace like user name and passwords. You could do

934
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: anything that has a unique I D that needs to

935
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: be secured and unchangeable. It could be your house D.

936
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: So to think about on the business side of having

937
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: that on the internet. Now you've got a user name

938
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: and I D. Like we're using it for to give

939
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: people access to do business with us on topezz. Like

940
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: if you have the n f T, you can buy

941
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: merch you can buy things that whole cell. You can

942
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: actually come in and work in profit with us, just

943
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: like a corporate vendor list. Yeah, I'm I'm fully aware

944
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: of how n f T s operate. You know, I'm

945
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: the president of talent, the Acquisition and n f T

946
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: department at side time. Oh nice, so we're talking to

947
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: the man over here, I know. So for our listeners

948
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: that are out there listening, uh an n f T

949
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: could be a piece of artwork, it could be uh

950
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be a part of a community. It

951
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: could be multiple things. And so this being the new medium, right,

952
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: you attached the social cast to it and now you

953
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: have a movement. And so before this came about was

954
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: the idea and it being a social cause and Mike

955
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: had posted something on Instagram about him menting his first

956
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: n f T and at the time I was talking

957
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: to Johnny Cash begging him to give me an opportunity

958
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: to Hey, draw these characters I have in mind. You

959
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: just draw these characters for me. I'll help change your life.

960
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Just trust me on this. Just give me too. Whatever

961
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: your salary is for two months, let me know I

962
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: need you for two months. I'll change your life. And

963
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: so he committed the first The first character he drew

964
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: was Buddy. Which one is Buddy? Buddy, it's in the middle.

965
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: And so as I as I reached out to Mike

966
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: Frost and say, hey, listen, I hear you're in the

967
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: n f T s. Let's get together on some stuff.

968
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: I got some ideas I want to run past you.

969
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 1: So I bring him, you know, the Wrestlers of the Metal,

970
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: the masked Wrestlers of the Metaverse, where we could do

971
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: the wrestling mass and do all the changes stuff exactly.

972
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly what he said. So he said, that's trash.

973
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: So idea after idea after idea. He sees Buddy and

974
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm in, let's do this. And the Buddy

975
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: and forty ounce and and shum that's Melvin. Melvin is

976
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: is assurance. So yeah, the Mushroom, his name is Hall Passed.

977
00:53:55,160 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: You got Hall Passed, Buddy and as a man characters,

978
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: So so we have we were throwing names up and

979
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: that's what stuck. So we have a core of characters

980
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: that are all kind of just weirdly named. On our

981
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: intro and we go to our website. We produced a

982
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: couple of short animated UH animated cartoons, one being about

983
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: bootleggers Beware. So there was a rap a lot story

984
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: that we heard about a long time ago that when

985
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: you were selling their stuff, they would show up on you.

986
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: Just watch the cartoon if you want to figure out

987
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: what happens next. So we took the idea and ran

988
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: with it. It's been lighting up the internet. It's very funny.

989
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: It's all in good humor. And uh so the n

990
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: f T what it is. It's an animated series. It's

991
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: a toy and collectible line and that's the nucleus of it,

992
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: to help provide funding for non violent drug offenders. Have

993
00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: you it is? Have you ever? Um? I guess came

994
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: across any resistance you got, you got detractors out there

995
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: saying that, Hey, you know, you're perpetuating this negative image

996
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: the time. I say, that's the hook I got you

997
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: talking about it. Now, now let's talk about it. But

998
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: you get into our community too, and you start realizing

999
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: real quick, it's like a real positive thing. Yeah, we're

1000
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: not necessarily promoting dope. What we're doing is bringing education

1001
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: and awareness. Hey, listen, you heard my story. Now, now

1002
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: you can make a better decision than somebody saying just

1003
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: say no. That's what I was told right growing up

1004
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: our I was just told just say no. They told

1005
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: me that marijuana doesn't have any medical value. So what

1006
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: y'all been feeding me has been bullshit the whole time.

1007
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: Let me hear someone else's story, and that's where we

1008
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: come in. We just provide a different form of education

1009
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: for you that. Hey, it gets the conversation started. Now,

1010
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: let's have a conversation. When you see this image, you

1011
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: click on it, right, and then you go find out, Oh,

1012
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: they're helping up free non violent drug offenders. Oh, they're

1013
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: an animated series, and their toys and collectibles. Oh, there's

1014
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: so much more in this nf T. When when I

1015
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: when I heard about this, I wasn't surprised he was

1016
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: behind it because you're renting game. But I wasn't no

1017
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: surprised that Mike was involved because Mike is low keily,

1018
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: laid back. Man. I think it was me that. Yeah.

1019
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is what we're doing. If

1020
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing anything with you, is that right? But I

1021
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: have you know, I'm Mike is really you know what

1022
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: though I not think about it. He's like a mass

1023
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: notis he's one big back then ship be up to

1024
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: all kinds of ship. You don't know what's going on.

1025
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: Looked at the computer doing something. I looked at the

1026
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: social cause I looked at this. I had a Switcher

1027
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: house cover I did that had almost similar characters like

1028
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. Um, and I just you know, like

1029
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: a lot of things, whether when it comes to design,

1030
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: like man, I just know certain ship when you see it,

1031
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's it, that's what we gotta do.

1032
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: Some of it is like we're at this um precipice

1033
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: of like you know, people are taking the shrooms and

1034
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: and mushrooms and they're taking things for medical purposes all

1035
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: over the place. Um, growing up and doing all the

1036
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: hip hop I'm talking about me for medical purposes the

1037
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: uh you know, with the social cause. From doing all

1038
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: the rap album covers, I actually got to see firsthand,

1039
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm I hate the drug war and what

1040
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: it did to people, so I was behind that on it.

1041
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: Um it's just man, I can tell you like it.

1042
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: It's really been all gas, no breaks on this. Instantly

1043
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: recognize the idea as a hit, and like, I think

1044
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: about it now since I've been business partners with them,

1045
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: and I've noticed fairly quickly, but me and him has

1046
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: just been hitting it like Harden and Fat and getting

1047
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: this stuff done. And I was like, well, this motherfucker

1048
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: did put together a bunch of grow houses, you gotta

1049
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: wrap studio and a rap album video like no wonder

1050
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: this is. We're moving like this because the hustler put

1051
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: that in the game, Coach that that you are man,

1052
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: you are a hustler. I want to get down with

1053
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: what you want to ship in some some capacity because

1054
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm down. I'm down with the non violent offenders. I

1055
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: want to make sure that they get out and get

1056
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: on their feet. And then too, I like the idea

1057
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 1: of you know, some n f T type ship it's done,

1058
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: say less William and I want to work on an album,

1059
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: but characters, isn't almost that I will do this car.

1060
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean your careers as animated characters. I mean it's

1061
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: less work, more, more notoriety. I mean we have open

1062
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: positions for both of you. Guys. Listen. We believe in

1063
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: sharing the wealth. Were tough. Hey are you guys doing

1064
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: south By Southwest big time? We are. We are invading Austin.

1065
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: We have two rap vehicles, both with sixty five in displays.

1066
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: We have over two hundred and twenty five people who

1067
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: have signed the Front Street Team. Yeah, it's going down.

1068
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: That's good man. We got these giant heads made of

1069
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: all the characters like Blake jump in the marsh pits

1070
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: of forty good hands came about Buddy. Is he gonna

1071
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: be there? He's gonna be there and his girlfriend baby.

1072
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: We got girlfud, right, we got a girl, Bud. We're

1073
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: gonna make a scene in Austin. We're gonna need to

1074
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: be in on this. It's done. Say less like what

1075
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: I need to do? Um, we'll talk to since we'll

1076
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: talk off camera. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really want to

1077
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: ask some more questions, but I want to ask. I'm good.

1078
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: I think, I think we are. I think the follow

1079
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: up is gonna be even better because I see this

1080
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: going somewhere, you know, And it's beautiful that you were

1081
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: able to be able to pivot and catch your snap man,

1082
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna play you something, man, um, we gotta

1083
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: do better. Hey man, you gotta do better. And and y'all, y'all,

1084
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: y'are too smart. Man, you know what I'm saying. And

1085
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: I know everybody has told you this before. Y'all really

1086
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: too smart to get caught up like and and the

1087
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: reason but it happens to the best, it's because that

1088
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: lack of opportunity. And so what we've done in our community.

1089
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: When you're in Discord, there's ample opportunity. It's almost has

1090
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: a prerequisite that you be a felony to come work

1091
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: with us, because if you can voice the character, or

1092
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: you can do animation, or you can pass out a flyer,

1093
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: you're part of this community. You feel like you're part

1094
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: of the community. Two d and twenty people signed up

1095
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: for the street team in a matter of minutes. We're

1096
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: hiring from the inside the community and people that support us.

1097
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: So the cool thing about Discard, I'm saying, it's for

1098
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: the audience at Discord because people don't get on it.

1099
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: It's probably the best software for managing a fan base

1100
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: and building a business. I'm going to do a voice

1101
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: over thought on the characters right now. You listened to it,

1102
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: right now, then let me finish, man, So go ahead

1103
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: with it. You know what, now you forget what you

1104
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: wanted to say. You're gonna try to pass. As a

1105
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I can do a voice over all

1106
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: three of these characters. So I went back. I went

1107
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,479
Speaker 1: to Merciless, was an old friend of mine, that ratting

1108
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: Houston span it dude. I went to Devon the dude

1109
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: that was the only person I was just like, I

1110
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: gotta have you on the carton as a fan. Now

1111
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: he's not buddy, he's He's a character called Dubie the dude.

1112
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: I love Damon. Shout out do Melvin right quick with

1113
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: Melvin sound like uh? I think Melvin a sound like this.

1114
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: I think Melvin might be a little bit too drunk.

1115
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: Men just came on. Melvin just came home, college girl

1116
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: in bed with another dude. Action bit like this is

1117
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: the scariest where you get huh. I think that's carried

1118
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 1: you at They come home and slap the big act. Listen,

1119
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: we are in C. Seventeen, pg. Thirteen. Sometimes yeah, yeah,

1120
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: we make although we might advertise on porn hub and

1121
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: that's a marketing strategy. Doesn't mean when we launched it,

1122
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the motion capture stuff and set up

1123
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: the animation studio so we can get out there and

1124
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: live actor and ship. Like what you said, actually make

1125
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: it in the cartoon. I'm gonna make the cartoon wrong

1126
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: the first couple similar I did the first all hard

1127
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: with from the inside. The community too on this project,

1128
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: like community. So we have a discord of over ten

1129
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: thousand dopeads. We have a Instagram of over time. Okay,

1130
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: so this this dope hands the whole community right now,

1131
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: Like I just put you are amazing with this ship.

1132
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: You start movements, man and and and get money from it. Well,

1133
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: come on, I'm not stupid. Look, so we got ten

1134
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: thousand dopeets online right now, all chatting twenty four hours

1135
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: a day all around the world Australia. Uh you knowing

1136
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: four hours a day. Not for clarity, do you have

1137
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: to be on drugs to be a dope pet? Now

1138
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: there are doctors and there's like people with like real

1139
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: jobs and stuff in our community and they and they

1140
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: help out because it's about drugs. It's about helping free

1141
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: non violent drug offenders and people with substance abuse problems

1142
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: like drugs, like wood drugs. I mean, what do you

1143
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: define it? Like the drug drugs? Illicit products like like

1144
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: Cocaine's a drug? U heroin, heroin, heroin, heroin, um percocess.

1145
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: That's prescription mana heroine? Are you? Yeah? You think you

1146
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: think that weed is a drug. Now, we're just not

1147
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: a drug. So you work around with some weed now.

1148
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: I just don't like it. I don't like to smoke.

1149
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't like putting nothing, no smoke in my body.

1150
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: Will you told me one time and somebody actually get

1151
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: you a uh I'm edible ate it and he was

1152
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: hot you No, they didn't. They didn't slip it tip

1153
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: to me. This woman was walking around my restaurant with

1154
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: a with a bag of damn goodies and I was

1155
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: I was hungry. I was hungry. I didn't know the

1156
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: damn thing wasn't edible and it was just like some cookies, right,

1157
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: So I asked her about I said, I said, what

1158
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: you got that I'm trying to support. You know what

1159
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: I said, I said, what you got that she's like?

1160
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: And she was an old black lady. She was like

1161
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: some cookies, and I said, I said, don't care about

1162
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: what you said. I said, how much? She said turned.

1163
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: I should have known something. You know, people be selling

1164
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff over price these days, so I

1165
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: just felt like it was gonna make cookie or something.

1166
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: So I just gave it ten dollars for the cookie.

1167
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: And uh, I said that man, and ate the damn

1168
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: half of the damn cookie before my food came out.

1169
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: I ordered some food, so I ate half of the cookie.

1170
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: My food came out, and this was Super Bowl Day

1171
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: two years ago. I ate the damn half of the

1172
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: cookie and then ate my food and then finished it

1173
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: off like it was dessert. Man, Look, look I went.

1174
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: I went to my buddy house. I went to my

1175
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: buddy house. I get to this house. I'm sitting in

1176
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: the theater like watching the game, and all of a sudden,

1177
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking and the guys, the other guys, they're like,

1178
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: and we're laughing at everything. Man, over that bad. I'm thinking,

1179
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: I just got a good buzz drink because he had

1180
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: pulled me a drink when I got it pulled me

1181
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: some some rocks. So I think I just you know,

1182
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: just buzzing a little bit. Yeah. So all of a sudden,

1183
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm listening to what they're saying. He starts to happen

1184
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: in slow motion. How still at that point, I'm relaxed,

1185
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: like totally relaxed. But I'm like, and so I started talking.

1186
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,919
Speaker 1: I started trying to measure my words because I don't

1187
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: want to look like a food, So I'm trying to control,

1188
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, what my words coming out. Some I'm speaking,

1189
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: but I'm starting to notice, like this ship is coming

1190
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: out in slow motion. And then when they say something,

1191
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: I respond seconds later, and I'm like, okay, chill the

1192
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: funk I ain gonna say nothing. I'm just gonna chill.

1193
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: So I sat there and I was like, well, I

1194
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: gotta relax. So about five minutes later start doing it.

1195
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm having a heart attack. That up so

1196
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: my boy, uh, well my heart start. I don't understand

1197
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: when first it started doing a little bit something like

1198
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: any time something going on, he stug getting and then

1199
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: and then it just started who So I was like,

1200
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: I turned him up, boy, I said, he said, huh

1201
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: he h hen behind He's like, huh I talk. I can't.

1202
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: I ain't got no volume. I'm like, he said, he

1203
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: said gold that one one. I said, that was your

1204
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: first time. That my first time ever. Dude, Hey, now,

1205
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: when did you realize that? You were like, you ate

1206
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: that edible? When did you realize? I was like, because

1207
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't a drink it I only had

1208
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: drink that much drink. It was straight drink. But still,

1209
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a regular drink. But I

1210
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: caught my snap. I was like, it was that goddamn

1211
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: fifteen dollar motherfucker cooking cookie. He's never gonna forget. I

1212
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: was like, it was that cookie. So and I told him,

1213
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: I say, while while the paramedics was on the way,

1214
01:08:51,760 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling my boy, I say, he said, he how

1215
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:08,799
Speaker 1: about say so when they come, when they come, they

1216
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: come in there and they they took me up and

1217
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and he said, well uh, And I

1218
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: had to tell him. I said yeah. I said, yeah,

1219
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: I haint edible. And he was quiet, like, don I

1220
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: hate edible? So he was like, what did your mind?

1221
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, no, I hate straight up. What are

1222
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Arrest me for you? What did your mind?

1223
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: Go through and you saw that I was an ambulance.

1224
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: Man came the em come in. Did you walk up

1225
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: to me slow? No? No, no this point. At this point,

1226
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to control my life. I'm like,

1227
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm not about the fucking die in this room. In

1228
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: this it's somebody has It's not time for me to die.

1229
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. So dude was like, well, the good

1230
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: thing is you're not having a heart attack, and he said,

1231
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: but we can get to check out. You're still you know,

1232
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: take a ride, go get checked out or whatever else.

1233
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: So I didn't ride an ambulance, but I had my

1234
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 1: guys to take me over and get checked out. And

1235
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: what are you talking about a hospital bill? It's like

1236
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: it's five figures, man, just to go in there for

1237
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: five Yeah, just going there for a few minutes. Man,

1238
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 1: was a couple of hours. But it's got to be

1239
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: a freaking But I didn't know crazy. I didn't know

1240
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: what that experience was supposed to feel like, nobody, nobody

1241
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: gave me here. It's I just heard stories about edibles

1242
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: like so you can ask like this. We have a

1243
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: strategic partner with Moon Harvest and they're a leader in

1244
01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: the cbd UM Cannabis movement their dispensary out of Dallas, Texas.

1245
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: And what they've done is they've made edibles out of

1246
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:09,440
Speaker 1: the CBD products. Some have psychoactive properties. What the psychoactive

1247
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: can be sucked up, okay, cool, so, and so there's

1248
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: an alternative where you can use these edibles too if

1249
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: you have joint inflammation. They even discovered recently that the

1250
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen cells can't bond to the uh same molecules

1251
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: the cannabinoids. So there's some interesting ship that MSNBC just

1252
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: released about hemp products cbd A. And so we've teamed

1253
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: up with my Mom Harvest. You can go right now

1254
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: to their website. My Moon Harvests get thirty percent off

1255
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: just by saying your dopead coupon code dope pads. And

1256
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: so I need to be a well, let me just

1257
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: not say that because the people might get the wrong idea.

1258
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: You just need to be a dope because we're listen,

1259
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong behind and you do and you know

1260
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: that's my doubt when you go to the hospital. Only

1261
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: when I go to do it, I go to the

1262
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: hospital to get high. Man. I knew it was a hit.

1263
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: One of my daughters, like friends, had it on her

1264
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: the sticker on her phone and she started talking about yeah,

1265
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: my mom seeing the sticker and I'm like, damn. She

1266
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: was fun and I was like, oh yes. So what

1267
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: I tell people is, imagine if you could go back

1268
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: with Walt Disney and at the time he was creating

1269
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse and Steamboat Willie. If Mickey Mouse were an

1270
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: n f T, how much would he be worth today,

1271
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: sixties seventy years later, five ten million dollars. This is

1272
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: the same opportunity we're given to people. You buy a

1273
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: dope Head n f T, you can semi customize it

1274
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: by writing its name in his backstory. You can audition

1275
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: your character for the series so you can be a

1276
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: part of the series and then noting that. But we've

1277
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 1: had an interesting aspect where we're doing a delayed reveal,

1278
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: so you can either reveal your n f T now

1279
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: or you can choose to delay reveal for twelve months

1280
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: where you have an opportunity to get a more rare

1281
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: dope head in FT, we're doing some pretty funky stuff

1282
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: with the utilities. Can you make me a dope head monkey,

1283
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: a dope action figure. We're working on right now. I

1284
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: mean I want to dope character too. That's done. I

1285
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: think you got one on your shirt. This is me

1286
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: see it. Come on, bro, that's that's your album cover

1287
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: and that's scarface, like for real, Bro, you know we're

1288
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: doing this an album with the Diary and stuff like that.

1289
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: But that's a box head though. If you really think

1290
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: a head, it's a block of coat. That's a block

1291
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,919
Speaker 1: of coat. That's a that's a that's a block of cocad.

1292
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: He's like the You know you should see Uncle Wills.

1293
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: He's got his old album cover on there. Yes he did,

1294
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: but see here put it up because he didn't want

1295
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: you to see it. I guess you know. Oh, I'm

1296
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: gonna get you. I'm gonna get your size up on

1297
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: that too. It's a little small. It looks good on you,

1298
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: but I'll get you another one. Just you know, hood's

1299
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: supposed to become you. Look it's good fish, good side.

1300
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: It makes him looks like you've been shopping on one

1301
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: of the fancy stores. The Berman burn Off Goodman. If

1302
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: it's got two names, just gotta be expensive. Oh Man

1303
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: in New York, bro Big the Avenue. I bought two

1304
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: sweaters Man we tried to thumb. We need to get

1305
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: We need to get dopeads, hoodies and need in the

1306
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: north room. We need to get dope head hoodies and

1307
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: premium goods. Everybody go online in type in premium goods

1308
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: Houston Man and ask Jim to put the dopehead t

1309
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: shirts and ship. It's just gonna be big. I need in.

1310
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: What's the website? So it's real simple, it's dope Heads

1311
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: n FT dot com. People simple, We're on all social

1312
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: media platforms as dope heads plural in FT. You can

1313
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: look at something correct, everything spoke correctly. Dopeheads n f T, Twitter,

1314
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: dope Heads n f T, Instagram Dopeheads n f T

1315
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: Web dope Heads. Listen to our link tree is dope

1316
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: Heads and f T so you can find us. It's

1317
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: real simple. Absolutely, And before we go, just let the

1318
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 1: whole fucking podcast world know that you really called the

1319
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: kingping charge for real. So when they give you four

1320
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: points for a leader organizer role, you're getting the same

1321
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: points that Pablo Escobar would have been charged with that

1322
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 1: chop uh he got. You know, one more question, the

1323
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: wildest thing you saw? Why you always locked up wild

1324
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: beside beside besides the let me say this, and let

1325
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: me say this easy. Let me say this, ain't no

1326
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: fun being in a cage under any circumstances. But if

1327
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: I had to do some time, that time, any kind

1328
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: of time, I would like to have you in there

1329
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: because I know you're gonna make my time little easier.

1330
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna make it go by because you gotta light

1331
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: you lighthearted. Your fund is hell. And I know we're

1332
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna be tripping. We're gonna talk about some cool stuff

1333
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: to you. Probably make some bro and I used to

1334
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: make the pies and slang pies man for a book.

1335
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: You could come get you a toe down pie man.

1336
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: I had night boys slanging Cramer pies whip game in effect.

1337
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't mean no wine that ship. I'm gonna do something.

1338
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna smoke. Did you have to You have to

1339
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: have at least one one squabbling that right now, do

1340
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: your time. I did blood baby, Yeah, they stabbing, They

1341
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: ain't fighting, um so you know, not on a race thing.

1342
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: But I was asked to be the speaker for the

1343
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: white boys who weren't Arian brotherhood, and so the former

1344
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: the former speaker told me this. He said, if you

1345
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: can't talk your way. I have a situation, then you

1346
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: deserve to have your ass beat in the first place.

1347
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: So everything you approach with the group should be let

1348
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: me figure out a way to be diplomatic and work

1349
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: out the situation. And so knowing that knowledge could save

1350
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: my life in that situation, you can apply to And

1351
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: so if you can't talk your way out of a situation,

1352
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: then you deserve to have your ass beat. So your

1353
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 1: your mind should be working differently. It shouldn't be worried

1354
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: about I got my boots all all right, let's go.

1355
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm a company face with the one. Your mind is

1356
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: already thinking the wrong thing, and and and for clarity,

1357
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: it's not about being a coward, no, No, it's about

1358
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: understanding that conflict is costly. That's right, because command already right,

1359
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm not the I am the minority in prison, right,

1360
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: so I'm out number. So any one of my guys

1361
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: goes down, that's one of my I can't risk any

1362
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: one of these dudes. That's all we got. You know,

1363
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: we're barely trying to keep ourselves together, you know, before

1364
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: we got to give up, you know, So I mean ship,

1365
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose any of these guys, no

1366
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: bullshit that I've done. You know. I want a particular point,

1367
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: there was there was an issue the Hispanics were taking

1368
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: the fruit that the white guys were leaving on the

1369
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: table that they didn't want anyway, that they were leaving

1370
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: it on the table for somebody else to have. They

1371
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: were mad that the Hispanics were picking up the fruit

1372
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: and they were taking it. I said, you were leaving

1373
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: it there in the first place. You were, you were

1374
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: leaving it there if you want to take it with you.

1375
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: You can't be mad at somebody else picking it up

1376
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: off your table. I know it's I know, the tables

1377
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: close to the line, but you just can't be mad

1378
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: at that. And that that issue went on for at

1379
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: least three weeks, and I just told myself, listen, you

1380
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: just gotta understand what you're dealing with in here. That

1381
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: TV is so important to so many people in there

1382
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: that you don't even understand. So don't go up there

1383
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: and touch the TV. Please don't touch the TV. And

1384
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: please don't do it if you're in a black TV room. Yeah,

1385
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: so my first lesson in prison, Right, I'm chilling with

1386
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: the homies, my people, right, I'm I'm not anything. We're

1387
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: watching the BT like I'm watching BT like we're over

1388
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: here together. I'm thinking we're at Uncle Will's house. I

1389
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: go to change the TV, right, I'm changing TV. This

1390
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: happens for like three days, right toe downs up there

1391
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: changing the TV. All of a sudden, my brother and

1392
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: I are locked up together, by the way, This is

1393
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: early on when we're in cars rated downtown FDC. All

1394
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I see all the black guys holding

1395
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: up in the thing over he Damn, I'm seeing get

1396
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: your glass over. Your man's going about to go down. Man.

1397
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, my brother he's kind of looking

1398
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: around and he's like, oh man, it is gonna go

1399
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: down in this bitch. They're gonna get somebody. All of

1400
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, my brother he goes up to the cell,

1401
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, make sure everything is copacetic. He's gonna be

1402
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: out the way if something goes down, you know, protect

1403
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: his brain at all costs. And so I'm down there,

1404
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: still watching TV, and I saw all the guys come

1405
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: out and they all go up to my brother's cell,

1406
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, they's gonna funk with my brother, Like, man,

1407
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: what the funk are So I'm like, man, what the

1408
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: fund do I do? Right? So I go up there,

1409
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: and at this point everybody has left to sell. They said,

1410
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: I'll be a son of bit, keep your goddamn hand

1411
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: off that TV. They're down there having a discussion about you.

1412
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: You can't be touching their TV. Man. I was like,

1413
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that. Because I was white and touching

1414
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: the TV, it might give the false impression that that

1415
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 1: was a white boy TV. And so they had established

1416
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: the TV areas and the TV sitting there, and I

1417
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 1: was disrespecting them. So yeah, people need to understand that,

1418
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: like will. So I manned up and I went down

1419
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: the situation. I said, hey, guys, listen, I'm new. I apologize,

1420
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: no disrespect. I won't touch you'all TV anymore. Where can

1421
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: I watch TV at? And they said, tode, You're always

1422
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: welcome over here, but the white boy TV is down

1423
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: there with those tromos. Goddamn, I funk some chomos. So

1424
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: come on, let's go funk some chos. Usually whoever has

1425
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: the most uh inmates, you know, like that, that's who

1426
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: had the most TVs, you know, because they're gonna take

1427
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: up more space. But I know you, I mean, but

1428
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: that's how it goes. But that's a very learning lesson,

1429
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: you know, space boundaries. I'm glad that you you that

1430
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: you decided to use diplomacy instead of, you know, being

1431
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: emotional and just jumping in there. Yeah, we wouldn't be

1432
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: having this conversation, not at all. Know. But the craziest

1433
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: thing I ever saw was somebody get they head bust

1434
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: over a scoop of ice. Yeah. Yeah, the dude that

1435
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: cut in front of them. The ice machine just opened up.

1436
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: Dude cut in front of him. By the time the

1437
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: guy got the scooper, the guy was putting on his

1438
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: lid and the dude just almost it almost like ripped

1439
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: his scalp off. He had hit him so hard. And

1440
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: they're just blood everywhere inside the ice machine. Shut down

1441
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: the ice machine for like six days. The other races

1442
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: were mad at the I was just went on and on.

1443
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: And ice is a commodity in prison sometimes. Yeah, my

1444
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: father so hard to put that man. I gotta keep

1445
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 1: it cold. We'll come get some ice from todown. I

1446
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: got five jugs. If you need a jug, it's three bucks.

1447
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: What's it just happened? Bro? Everywhere we go ship our

1448
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: first weekend there we were selling K two our first

1449
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: weekend there. Yeah, at the time, that was that fake

1450
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: weed ship. Remember that stuff was in their pants, not

1451
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: acting crazy. Man, I was getting that motherfucking tuna fish.

1452
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: Will you bring me that three fifty tuna fish over

1453
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,879
Speaker 1: here today? I had more tuna fishing stamps than anybody

1454
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:33,440
Speaker 1: in the motherfucker I was there. I mean my smoking accessories.

1455
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: Why everywhere I go, Well, I don't you understand. So

1456
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: if I gotta pay a little bit extra some good

1457
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 1: weed to come in, I'll pay a couple extra bucks.

1458
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: But I'm a hustle to get it. I just come

1459
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: accustomed to a lifestyle that I've grown accustomed to, and

1460
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: I want to maintain that. Man, You've been doing that

1461
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: baby for life. You've been maintaining it for a long time.

1462
01:22:53,560 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate, appreciate Cross, thank you, thank you, likewise man,

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Speaker 1: and you're always gonna hustling. Man, you cannot that that

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Speaker 1: that ship do not get you down where you always

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Speaker 1: got a way to get you some money, your motherucker,

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Speaker 1: Tod Dow. I appreciate you coming out no more tops.

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Speaker 1: This episode was produced by A King and brought to

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Speaker 1: you by The Black Effect Podcast Network at i Heart Radio,