1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Is a joy to be with you with Jeff Gannett. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Of course on a day where people que, they run 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: in the celebration is upon us your super Bowl. What 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: are they buying today for Black Friday? 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: So they're buying everything on their gift list, and they're 6 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: buying that's really generally in luxury, so fine jewelry, they're 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: buying cashmere, they're buying outwork for the entire family, hostess 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: gifts in our home store, but they're also home prep. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: We've got great deals as we always do for Black Friday, 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: going all the way through the holiday season. So we 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: are ready. We've got all of our key items, you know, 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: loaded to bear. Here we are in Harold's Square. It 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: was a good opening. We had a great day online 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: yesterday during Thanksgiving. 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: I mean you said that on your earnings, which what 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: what but a week ago? Yes, but this gets earlier 17 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: on earlier Black Friday. The competition. How important are the 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: next few days and the run up to the holidays. 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: Oh, it's still very important. So you know, when you 20 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: think about kind of Black Friday deals really started it 21 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: right after Halloween is when they started. But this is 22 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: still a pilgrimage. You've got you know, America is traveling 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: and they are in homes, and they're coming into storages 24 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: just like this one today. They're online. They've been online 25 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: all the way through, so it's very very important. So 26 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: we look at kind of Black Friday through Cyber Week. 27 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: Now we go into a lull, it's like ten days 28 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: where people kind of reset, and then those last ten 29 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: days become increasingly important. So it's one of the three 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: stages right now that we are at. The kind of 31 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: the Christmas shopping is the when we're in right now. 32 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: The first what, of course, your earnings showed so clearly 33 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: is that it's about inventory management in many ways at 34 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: the moment, and you've been managing to ace that how 35 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: are you ensure you got the right thing at the 36 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: right time for a consumer that basically they're all trying 37 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: to understand right now. 38 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: So obviously the consumer's under pressure, but they still love gifts, 39 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: and so we want to make sure that we've got 40 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: all the right gifts and we've got all the right 41 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: stock content in them. So I just walked this entire 42 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: store to really understand where we are in all of 43 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: the content across all of our categories, and we're in 44 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: great shape, and that's really in tribute to the amount 45 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: of work we've been putting in an inventory control. 46 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: And when it comes to online versus in store in retail, 47 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: this is how you've been shifting the company. In particular, 48 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: people aren't perhaps having the footfall in mals, they're coming 49 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: to one off stores, they're going to smallest all experiences, 50 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: but e commerce has just been the focus. How are 51 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: you managing to be at the right time, in the 52 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: right place for an omni channel purchase. 53 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: So really the strength of Macy's and Bloomingdales and bloom 54 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: Mercuries that we're omni channel and we're omni category. So 55 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: what you have is you have customers that are shopping online, 56 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: they want to come into a store and try it on, 57 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: and they maybe are transacting on the couch later that night. 58 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: So the opportunity to make it as convenient for the 59 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: customer as possible, however and whenever they want to shop. 60 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: So that's our beauty and doing that with a national 61 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: footprint with a great website is what we depend on. 62 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: And of course why you've got such a great birdside 63 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: perspective because you do have Bloomingdale's for the higher and 64 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: more luxury purchaser and then more income breadth. When it 65 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: comes to Macy's, what are we seeing in terms of 66 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: the consumer. Are they going to be spending more? Are 67 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: they going to be putting back? 68 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: So you do have customers that are under pressure, and 69 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: so when you think about the inflation is still high. 70 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: It's abating from the change at the inflation rate from 71 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: last year, but it's still higher than it was last year. 72 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: And customers have got a limited budget, some of it 73 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: they're spending and inexperiences in in our discretionary categories. So 74 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: we want to make sure that we've got the right 75 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: price points across that entire spectrum. But you still give gifts, 76 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: and this is where Macy's and Bloomingdale's and Bloomercrey shine. 77 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: So when you have this gift somebody on your gift list, 78 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: we're going to have the right content for you at 79 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: the right price point. And we spend from when Black 80 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Friday ends to where we are right now. We've been 81 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: spending a year getting ready for that, and we do 82 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: trial runs in Valentine's Day, Mother's Day, Father's Day to 83 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: make sure we've got the right gifts. 84 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: You're ready, You're ready. People are worried analysts might be 85 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: worried that you're kind of managing decline at the moment. 86 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: What would you say to a comment like that. 87 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: Look, I think that if we weren't an apartment store today, 88 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: we would invent one. So the idea about having multi 89 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: categories being able to do that in multi channels, we 90 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: now have been able to get new categories and as 91 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: a result of Marketplace, which is now online at both 92 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: Bloomingdal's and in Macy's. So I bet on department stores, 93 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: and obviously I made my career doing this, and it 94 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: is a you know, it's still very very relevant. You know, 95 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: we're obviously looking at where traffic is moving from on 96 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: mall to off mall. We're obviously testing that in both 97 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 2: Bloomingdale's with the Bloomy's form and with Macy's with Macy's, 98 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: and so we're going to be ready for where the 99 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: customer is evolving, and we've got very strong assets to 100 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: be able to do that, both on mall and obviously online. 101 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: Evolving into a world where we're all using chatbots and 102 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: artificient intelligence at front and center. And these are sort 103 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: of areas of investment. 104 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, because when you think about AI and machine learning. 105 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: Think about when we have forty million customers at Macy's, 106 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: four million of bloomingdals, we know them very well. So 107 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: to have all that data and be able to start 108 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: to personalize content and values for those customers is where 109 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: this is all going. How do you make your brand 110 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: more relevant? And that is at a customer level. It's 111 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: no longer broad based promotion. It's the opportunity to be 112 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: able to I know, Caroline, and based on what you buy, 113 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: what you might be interested in them, and to be 114 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: able to serve that up and the way you want 115 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: it served up is really the secret of success for 116 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: an omni channel retailer going forward. 117 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: You of course just mentioned throughout your career this is 118 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: what you've been doing. For those who don't realize you 119 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: worked at the Macy's Brown for more than forty years 120 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: and this is your last Black Friday, and of course, 121 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: CEOs that's twenty seventeen. You have been full of as 122 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: a turnaround focus, the polarist, the way in which you 123 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: have thought about personalization E commers and whether, of course 124 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: the COVID in and of itself, do you feel that 125 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: you've got the plate the Macy's where you want it 126 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: to be as you look towards as being your last 127 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Black Friday. 128 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, when I reflect back on my career and 129 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: certainly in my time in CEO, I didn't accomplish everything 130 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: that was on my list, but look, the focus on 131 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: relevant content, on amazing values, and on customer experience is 132 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: clearly the path forward. And I couldn't be more excited 133 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: about my successor who was more than ready to be 134 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: able to do this. He knocked the cover off the 135 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: ball with respect to Bloomingdale's and what he was able 136 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: to do there. How he was able to kind of 137 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: help turn around the strategy of Bloe Mercury. He's now 138 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: going to do that for Macy's Inc. So he's got 139 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: a good game plan and he's going to make it better. 140 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: Jeff Kennett, we thank you so much for spending time 141 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: with us on what is your Last Black Friday? But 142 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: not still got a few more days in and of 143 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: course the job. 144 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: He's here until 145 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: February as the CEO and CEO elect Tony Spring