WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, February 2 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:11.600 It is Thursday, February six. This is Jaguars happy out 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:14.160 and now a guy who's not afraid of the rain, 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:18.439 but he is collecting animals two by two k peace. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.680 Apparently it's coming in hot today. The weather. That's what 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.439 I've heard weather, but like schools are letting out. Early 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.440 thought that we were gonna hurricane. Well, that's why it's funny, said, 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.920 because my wife was like big shutdown Tallahassee the campus today. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.600 I'll go for what she was a storm like because 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.199 there a hurricane coming this late. She's like no, but 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.839 there was a high wind like what. And then in 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:49.320 Pontevedra and they canceled school. I'm canceled and I left 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.800 my house driving here and it was like bawling, like 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.840 eighteen miles an hour and was like a breezy day. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.840 I'm like, what are we doing? It's a weird one. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.440 Here's what's kind it up on the program today. Two 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.480 games in London. That's the news This week. Cohn and 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.319 Lamping will hear from the Jaguars owner and the Jaguars 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.120 president front office. Edition will talk a little ball coming up, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.720 quarterback talk as well, and we'll go around the National 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.800 Football League Let's start off with the big news of 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.000 the week, the Jaguars taking two home games to London 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.640 and consecutive weeks. The weeks and the opponents will be 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.880 named later, but the bears of the Steelers games are 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:31.400 protected in Jacksonville. Ashland Sullivan this week asked owner shot 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.440 Con why the move when I was announced as the 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:40.640 owner eight years ago, I think I said that really 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:45.360 my goal was to keep Jaguars and Jackson well and 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.520 we will have to think unconventionally pretty much, what do 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.640 we have to do to win on the field. That's 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.200 paramount to us, But then we have to win off 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.960 the field, which is UH to be able to generate 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:03.440 the revenue to invest in the team, UH to help 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.000 but win and play a role uh in really growth 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.680 vitality of Jacksonville. This was right at the announcement when 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.160 they announced this. Nash and Sullivan, the full interview available 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.639 on Jaguars dot Com did a fantastic job. Was very 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.840 well done. It really was, and so check out the 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.519 full conversation there. A little later in the day, the 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.160 shot Con and Mark Lamping had a conference call with 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.000 local media before the announcement. This is actually before the 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:32.280 announcement came out and Jaguars president Mark Lamping explained why 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.280 now is the right time to add a second game, 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:38.040 Competing with other teams who have radically changed their revenue 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.200 expectations each year, like the Jaguars, we are entering a 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:48.000 uncertain time. That uncertain time is related to three teams 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.880 that in the past were teams that were with us 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:52.760 in the bottom of the league in terms of revenue. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.840 They have taken step steps that that that we would 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.120 not consider, but they've taken steps to fix their revenue 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.280 by leaving Oakland, by leaving St. Louis, and by leaving 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.280 San Diego that had had that has had an impact 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.760 in terms of all the other teams that are at 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.040 you know where we are in terms of the league 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:15.799 and in terms of of now. Um, we know that Latch, 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.240 in conjunction with all the things that Shott has already 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.480 invested in, those will continue to pay pay a dividends 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.000 for us. But we can't snap our fingers and get 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.840 Latch open tomorrow. So as we're waiting to go from 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.280 where we are now, which is Latch just a vision 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.440 to it actually being being open, we need to be 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:39.440 looking for those opportunities to supplement our revenue situation, and 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:43.119 we believe that London fits that bill. Uh. Not only 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.040 is it the right time to do it, but it's 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.000 the right action. That's morth lamping on a conference call 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.240 with local media just before the announcement the other day. So, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.160 fellas there we go to home games at Wimbley. Yeah, 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.320 I mean I think listen the fans. I mean, we've 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.160 seen all the comments and everyone's talked about. You've heard 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.440 if you listen to the radio shows and everything else 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.840 about fans are upset. And one of the things, just 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.000 as we have this conversation, I think it's really important 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:14.320 to kind of level set and separate the two two things, 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.840 two aspects of this organization. One is on the field performance, 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:24.520 two is business and UH stability of this franchise and 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.600 for not just the immediate but the long term UH 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.279 plan to be here in Jacksonville. And you have to 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.440 separate those two. And I think sometimes in the anger 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:40.200 and the passion, the poor performance on the field spills 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.080 over to some of the decisions that are made on 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.000 the business side. And by the way, like Jeff would 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.520 agree jpud degree, like everyone of this building would agree 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.600 it's okay to be upset about the on field performance, 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.840 like there's nothing like you should as a fan. That's 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.239 what's great about our fans, it's what's great about fans 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.400 of the NFL. You're passionate, you are mad, you're p 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.320 ode that this team is not winning enough games. That 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.239 you know, seven of the last eight years double digit losses, 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.080 all the stats we've talked about at the close of 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:16.719 the season. And that is good, healthy anger, but you 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.480 but I don't think it's right to have that anger 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.080 and emotion be spilled over into a decision to go 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.800 play two games in London, which if you're a season 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.840 ticket holder and you come to all eight games or 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.560 all seven games this past year, I get your you 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.840 have one less game that you can go to. You're frustrated, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.400 that's fine, that's natural, but that it's only for the 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.520 short term. This is a decision that is for next year. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.599 There's not even an agreement long term at this point 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.520 to do anything else. And if you look at the 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.320 business side of it, all that shot Khan, under Mark's 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.120 leadership of his direction that they have done since they've 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:03.479 uh shod bought this team, everything is to enhance the 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.520 fan experience. Everything is to enhance what is going on 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.160 in the stadium around the stadium in downtown started with 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:16.039 the scoreboards, renovation of the club building of Daily's Place, 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.839 which I don't know about everyone listening. I love, I go, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.680 I go to a bunch of shows, I mean, and 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.440 I live at the beach, so I come downtown, I 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.240 come here, I go to things around the state, and 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.520 I go to the Daily's Place. You have a lot 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.680 j that isn't hopefully on the cusp of happening, which 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.880 is gonna be bring more people and more excitement. I mean, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.680 you have all these different things, hopefully shipyards one day 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.200 down the road. I mean, so you have all these 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.480 amazing things happening on the business side in London is 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.080 part of that strategy where we sit right now, Mark 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.160 said it perfectly. The teams that had lower revenue than 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.279 we did, that had revenue issues, they all their owners, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:59.040 who by the way, were deeply rooted in San Diego, 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.520 the deeply rooted in St. Louis, and deeply rooted in Oakland. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.200 They looked at their fans and said, see you, I'm 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.440 going for the better deal to create more revenue and 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:14.480 more value. We have an owner that's saying no, we're 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.880 not going to do that. We're gonna make it work 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.000 here now. We gotta get creative, and we gotta do 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.600 some different things to do it, and it will evolve 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.760 over time. And by the way, I'm gonna invest my 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.880 own money into projects around the stadium to make this 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:33.400 a better overall experience. And right now that means going 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.400 to play one extra game in London, So two games 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.520 in London, and I get for those. Any season ticket 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.640 holder who came to seven games this past year, you 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.520 have to be upset if you only came to six 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.680 games last year, nothing changes for it. I'm glad you're 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.280 not counting preseason games. I'm just saying regular season games 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.040 just rear you and you can't count you guys. You 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.000 and I both agree on prisons games. But if you 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.720 came to seven regular season games last year, okay, I 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.920 get you're frustrated, and you you're you If you only 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.480 came to six last year, I'd love to know how 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.120 many season take holders actually go to all seven games. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:11.840 I'm sure there's a big number. Caut loud. Well, that's 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.280 fine right now, that's fine. But if it's only came 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.520 to six. There's no change, nothing changed. It's just been 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.200 kind of a little bit of a dog pile effect. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.680 I think there's been uh good reason for fans to 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.800 be upset because the season didn't go very well. It's 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.280 two years in a row. And then you had what 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:35.800 was perceived by many was the the the inaction or 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:40.720 the inactive response from ownership because of two consecutive losing seasons. 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.680 So you had a bad season, no change or not 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:49.240 sufficient enough change to satisfy certain fans, the football leadership, leadership. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:53.440 And then now you have of your home games going abroad. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.720 I get it. I'm not good. I mean, look, but 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.440 if you but I totally get it. But you still 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.040 have a fan base that's just upset about that. Look 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.240 and and rightfully so. I mean, look, if this is 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.760 your team, you want to see it. I mean, this 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.840 is your team. You don't want them to do you 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.880 want to watch it in person. I mean for the 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.400 diehard people, the people, they are fans and this is 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.199 their team, this is their city, this is the identity 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:23.600 of this city. For it to be uh shipped overseas, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.600 so to speaking, that's what a lot of people term it. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.960 They have a hard time stomaching that. And I think 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.360 also to some extent, and I understand that this is temporary, 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.360 but a lot of people they don't believe that it's temporary. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.880 They think that, Okay, this is just the first step. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.960 Maybe there's more on the other side. Nobody knows, And 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.199 certainly many people don't think that it's gonna go back 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.040 to being one or eventually none because they just don't 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.800 want to believe it. And so I think a lot 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.320 of times it's just got to kind of sink in 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.160 and then sometimes and sometimes in the emotion is still 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.760 attached to it. And I understand that, I guess fully 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.800 understand the emotion of it, but there's also a lot 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.840 of reason, which Tony has been talking about there, and 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:08.360 that there are some unique challenges in Jacksonville. That's fact. 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.920 If if you want an owner that wants to be 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.400 competitive from a financial standpoint, and there's nothing wrong with that. Look, 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.839 it's a business. Tony operated a business. Do you think 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.959 Tony's gonna operate the business that less than capacity or 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.360 less than its optimum level, or JP or me or 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:32.400 anybody else, any business owners. It's a business decision. And look, 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.440 I get that, I get that side of it. But 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:39.320 I also understand that when it comes to passion, people 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.319 don't want to have business decisions affect their passion because 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.400 it just doesn't feel good. And I totally get that. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.400 And the backdropt of this is that the it is 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.440 a business decision, but in the grand scheme of things, 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.120 it's a business of Jacksonville decision. That's my point. So 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.920 here to keep it here. That's why. That's but here's 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.760 the thing, and just real quick on that. That's that's 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.600 what you're What you're saying is down the road. And 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.120 sometimes it's hard for people to have the glasses that 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.360 show them the future or what things look like three 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.240 years down the road, four years down road, or five 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:14.680 years down the road. But I can tell you this, 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.760 when I came here in any one of the first 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.640 things I used to do because I would I live 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.480 in Mandarin. Still do same place, same drive for the 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.200 most part. Every day, come up San Jose Boulevard, across 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.320 the Main Street bridge, take a ride on Bay Street, 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.680 down past Maxwell Health, Costeep Coffee planting to the stadium. 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:37.080 Been making that drive since nine Has that drive changed 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:43.440 one bit since ninet No, No, it hasn't changed at all, 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:48.040 how many times have you heard? Though? The only thing 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.240 that I've seen change it's okay, there's a there's a 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.280 high rise complex there. It's a condominium, and then we 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.120 have one right next to it. It's a skeleton crew 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.719 that's left vacant. That's probably gonna cost the city more 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.000 to tear it down. And I remember me Mangi talking about, hey, 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.720 look man, we somebody should invest in this river from property. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.760 My gosh, this will be great, be awesome. Well, the 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.960 vision I think that that shot Kan has, which look, 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:12.760 I don't even know if I even own a setic 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.559 glasses that can look that far down the road, because 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.160 I mean, he's his I thought it's a lot, Jay's 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.440 the river front, it's a vibrant downtown. And look at 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.719 the reality is, folks, and here's an opportunity. And I'm 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.400 not trying to say and be a pauper for him 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.560 or trying to be his publicist. I'm just telling you 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.280 what Sin made that driving area and a damn thing 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.520 different about it. And I'm all for about seeing something different. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.320 I'm all for seeing about cranes in our downtown when 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:46.360 we go to Nashville, crane that are developing downtown in Nashville. Okay, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.720 the cranes that are around Wimbley, Yes, how many cranes 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.800 have we got? What what's our downtown doing. I haven't 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.400 seen a crane lately, not a damn thing. And also, 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.800 I me personally, I'd like to see some change. I'd 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.800 like to see it get better. So, Jeff, I think 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.560 what you just said is exactly what I think the 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:11.000 conversation should be. Be mad about the performance of the 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:15.440 football team. None of us like it, And I get 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.199 you know what, I think it's fair questions fans asked 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.960 is like why were there no changes or not more 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.959 of changes made? Those are all fair questions and that 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:25.920 and you know what, you can be mad and you 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.040 can question it, and all those things are fair. What 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.400 I don't think, and you can be emotionally upset because 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.439 it's one more game that you're not gonna be able 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.920 to see here for those of you that come to 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.400 the games. So yeah, it's one less opportunity. I get that. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.520 But at the same time, we have a owner and 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.720 I cannot stress this enough that is putting his money 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.960 where his mouth is in the sense of Daily's places 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.160 here not here when he first got here. We had 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:58.640 an old stadium, that old scoreboards. His his money went 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.800 into those scoreboards. His money went into the the a 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.200 lot of renovation of the stadium in a facility he 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:10.040 does not own. He got that question money in the 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.040 tell me the last time, Jeff, We've been here since 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.080 ninety five. That someone who says I'll put up a 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.560 quarter of a billion dollars or whatever the number is 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:23.040 to develop a massive project downtown, well just already alone. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.200 I think it's it's over million in the stadium. I 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.680 got this question last night because I was on with 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:34.600 uh Todd Haley and Zig. I think this guy is 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:39.880 his co host man, Yeah, yeah, I'm serious x M 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.920 NFL Radio last night and uh and they're like, you know, 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.360 the rumors are talking about the team eventually moving to London, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.000 which you know that that pops up. I mean it's 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:49.560 look for the people that don't know, I mean that 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.280 that's part of the conversation. Like again, let me say 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:53.840 that again. For the people that don't know, that's part 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.920 of the conversation. And so my response to that was 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.640 because they weren't saying that it was, but they said, 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.960 what about the people that have those questions? And I said, Okay, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.240 I said, I talk me and you work Tony j 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.120 P all of us. Are we going to spend a 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:14.560 hundred million and and making plans on spending another billion, 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.520 quarter billion to half a billion or whatever it's gonna 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.880 call to to do this development downtown. Oh and by 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:22.360 the way, we're just gonna take the team. We're gonna 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.880 move with the Lune, which is the asset we're building around, right, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:30.320 that's the Hello. Well that's so that's where I get. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.920 And like I've had people on Twitter I questioned my 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.800 love for Jacksonville and all this stuff and like whatever, 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.360 they can do whatever they want. I'm actually four Sean 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.560 and what he's doing on the like I questions on 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.960 the football side too. By the way, right we all do. 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.440 I've said, We've got a pretty good job on the 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:53.000 air and so but where I'm like a lock in 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.200 step with what he's doing and I'm a big supporter 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.360 of his vision because it makes the city I love better. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.720 I've heard about downtown for twenty five years, nothing has happened. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.840 This is like the first opportunity, like someone's actually like 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.520 really ready to rock the field. And like he's like 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.160 and so like do I like, would I rather all 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:19.360 eight games being in uh, jackson Sure be great Sunday morning. 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.760 It's not home games are fun. Home, it's relaxing. But 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.920 also if this is what it made like to go 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.120 but it's one but at the time that it gets 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:30.560 let out of you. But if this is part of 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:35.560 the overall strategy to make this the permanent home of 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:39.240 the Jacksonville Jaguars. And by the way, have an owner 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:45.120 who's investing and wants to win off the field and 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.200 make this city better. There's nothing wrong with wanting to 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.480 off the field. Like I hear people all the time, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.920 nothing wrong with that. Friends, greedy and all. If you 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.320 want to question whether or not some of his moves 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:01.520 have been the best to make when on the field happen, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.800 that's always open for debate. That's always fair. Yeah, And 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.159 I've got phone calls and messages. Oh he's greedy, you know, 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.160 doesn't have enough money and all this stuff. And I said, 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.840 wait a second, that's not fair. Number one, he's invested 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.720 his money and he owns a business. If I was 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.959 the owner of the Jaguars, I would be trying to 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:24.560 maximize the revenue and the opportunity to make this great 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.159 I wouldn't want to wake up if I was the 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.280 owner of this franchise and see that was thirty second 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:34.480 in revenue. I'm competing with the beanngals to get out 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.560 and the bills to get out of the seller. That's 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.880 not really what I would want. Like, I want to say, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.280 how do I become? How do I start chasing down 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.040 the top. And that's what we haven't always doing. And 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.399 if it takes going to this game year, to go 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.520 to two games to London, we'll see what's the future is. 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.120 We don't know yet, but you know what, then that's 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.120 the plan he's put it, he's invested his money. Then 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.479 that's what we're gonna do. Hey, let's come back and 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.760 discuss little football. How about that? There's football? No, but 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.480 we're gonna We're gonna we're gonna talk about it. We'll 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.320 come back planning ahead. 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It was released on the 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.200 date of the announcement of the London added game this year, 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:33.000 and then they talked a little football as well. So 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:36.680 first comments I think we've had publicly from shot Con 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:40.440 about Dave Caldwell and Doug maroone coming back this year, 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:43.840 but that was some of the rationale behind it moving ahead. 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:48.399 So I mean, look, and I know this is actually 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.560 this is the more. This is tougher than talking about 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.680 this second game to London my opinion. I do know 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:58.560 that there are there are some media members that would 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:00.639 like to be able to have you know, a Q 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.840