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Speaker 1: Apparently it's coming in hot today. The weather. That's what

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Speaker 1: Here's what's kind it up on the program today. Two

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Speaker 1: games in London. That's the news This week. Cohn and

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Speaker 1: Lamping will hear from the Jaguars owner and the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: president front office. Edition will talk a little ball coming up,

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Speaker 1: quarterback talk as well, and we'll go around the National

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Speaker 1: Football League Let's start off with the big news of

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Speaker 1: the week, the Jaguars taking two home games to London

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Speaker 1: and consecutive weeks. The weeks and the opponents will be

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Speaker 1: named later, but the bears of the Steelers games are

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Speaker 1: protected in Jacksonville. Ashland Sullivan this week asked owner shot

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Speaker 1: Con why the move when I was announced as the

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Speaker 1: we will have to think unconventionally pretty much, what do

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Speaker 1: we have to do to win on the field. That's

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Speaker 1: paramount to us, But then we have to win off

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Speaker 1: the field, which is UH to be able to generate

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Speaker 1: but win and play a role uh in really growth

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Speaker 1: vitality of Jacksonville. This was right at the announcement when

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Speaker 1: they announced this. Nash and Sullivan, the full interview available

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com did a fantastic job. Was very

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Speaker 1: well done. It really was, and so check out the

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Speaker 1: full conversation there. A little later in the day, the

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Speaker 1: local media before the announcement. This is actually before the

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Speaker 1: announcement came out and Jaguars president Mark Lamping explained why

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Speaker 1: now is the right time to add a second game,

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Speaker 1: Competing with other teams who have radically changed their revenue

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Speaker 1: uncertain time. That uncertain time is related to three teams

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Speaker 1: that in the past were teams that were with us

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Speaker 1: They have taken step steps that that that we would

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Speaker 1: not consider, but they've taken steps to fix their revenue

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Speaker 1: by leaving Oakland, by leaving St. Louis, and by leaving

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Speaker 1: in terms of all the other teams that are at

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Speaker 1: in conjunction with all the things that Shott has already

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Speaker 1: for us. But we can't snap our fingers and get

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Speaker 1: Latch open tomorrow. So as we're waiting to go from

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Speaker 1: looking for those opportunities to supplement our revenue situation, and

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Speaker 1: we believe that London fits that bill. Uh. Not only

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Speaker 1: the right action. That's morth lamping on a conference call

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Speaker 1: with local media just before the announcement the other day. So,

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Speaker 1: as we have this conversation, I think it's really important

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Speaker 1: to kind of level set and separate the two two things,

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Speaker 1: two aspects of this organization. One is on the field performance,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, that's natural, but that it's only for the

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Speaker 1: short term. This is a decision that is for next year.

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Speaker 1: There's not even an agreement long term at this point

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Speaker 1: which I don't know about everyone listening. I love, I go,

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Speaker 1: part of that strategy where we sit right now, Mark

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Speaker 1: said it perfectly. The teams that had lower revenue than

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Speaker 1: going for the better deal to create more revenue and

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Speaker 1: So you had a bad season, no change or not

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Speaker 1: sufficient enough change to satisfy certain fans, the football leadership, leadership.

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Speaker 1: And then now you have of your home games going abroad.

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Speaker 1: it's a business of Jacksonville decision. That's my point. So

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Speaker 1: how many times have you heard? Though? The only thing

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Speaker 1: to tear it down. And I remember me Mangi talking about, hey,

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Speaker 1: look man, we somebody should invest in this river from property.

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Speaker 1: the record will tell you whether or not that this

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Speaker 1: get a grade at the end of the year and

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Speaker 1: that's your record. Well, the grades has been bad around

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Speaker 1: D minus. Um. I agree with Jeff said, you know

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Speaker 1: Like what Sean said, it's like that's like one point

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. We're gonna delve into the

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to. Okay, Gardner, mit you any

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Speaker 1: into that which is I've said on JP you and

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Speaker 1: I talked about and jeff you as well. It's shocking

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Speaker 1: for a different day. Um. But his strategy is saying

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Speaker 1: like this, and I believe stability is important right now

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Speaker 1: I can't like that's a point of view that the perspective.

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Speaker 1: out if it's the right course or not. Like shot

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Speaker 1: said Jeffy repeated, the wins and losses will tell us

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Speaker 1: your strategy or the people executing your strategy are wrong.

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Speaker 1: It should take typically it takes an organization to build,

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Speaker 1: argue they might have been quicker if Grappo didn't get

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Speaker 1: well the first year, uh Andy backup is first year

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Speaker 1: one year for Andy. Yeah, so it's I mean it's competitive.

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Speaker 1: But something But my point is is that you typically

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Speaker 1: So can we can? You guys? Stop you right there

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Speaker 1: You know, the year that the Chiefs picked. They're coming

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Speaker 1: That hit me like a ton of bricks. Is like

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars social media pages. Quarterbacks and Aris been of riches.

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Speaker 1: Two quarterbacks, and you know Nick Foles obviously started here

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Speaker 1: comes Gardner, meant you six and six, everybody's on the roster.

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Speaker 1: Josh Jobbs around there. Down the depth chart a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There's your quarterback room. Where is this quarterback room right now?

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Speaker 1: And will there'll be where will there be changes or

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Speaker 1: additions to that quarterback room? In your opinion? Locks It

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Speaker 1: seemed like you were really locked into this topic earlier. Well,

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Speaker 1: I I don't agree with Sean con on this. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that the quarterback position is that you've got

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Speaker 1: two players that are coming off of a year that

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Speaker 1: still many questions exist about. And that if, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, then that means that's going to keep you

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Speaker 1: saying that that's his position. His position, maybe that he

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Speaker 1: wants to find a great one, and maybe he's saying

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Speaker 1: get another one. So but I think that that position

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Speaker 1: be the next Patrick Mahomes or and you had that

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Speaker 1: opportunity lost already. Could it be the next Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that and tell you know that you

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Speaker 1: and it cannot end. There's a lot of things to

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Speaker 1: like about him his Are you satisfied? So I will

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Speaker 1: describe it this way. We have one quarterback that I'm

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not. They could grow into it, maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Um did I leave this season saying he is the

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Speaker 1: of of seasons in playoff runs, one that led to

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Speaker 1: So I have a lot of questions there as well.

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Speaker 1: Do I think Nick Foles is a quote unquote franchise

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Speaker 1: he's done it in the backup role, but over a

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Speaker 1: So I got a lot of questions there too. Not

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Speaker 1: tells me I have a quarterback room that I'm unsure about,

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Speaker 1: and it is the most important position in this game,

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Speaker 1: and you have to have it right there. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying you have to have Patrick Mahomes, but you sure

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Speaker 1: would like that because it's gonna give you the best

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Speaker 1: consistently winning um. But you need a guy that is

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Speaker 1: And so with all that said, if I'm in this draft,

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Speaker 1: I'm evaluating the heck out of those quarterbacks. And if

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Speaker 1: him bona fide. If I don't think of that movie,

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Speaker 1: if he's not, if I don't have that conviction, then

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Speaker 1: guys he's bona fide, or maybe the guy want Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's Justin Herbert. I haven't done any work on any

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Speaker 1: of these guys. Maybe it's Justin Herbert and I can

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Speaker 1: pick him up at I don't know. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: last end, the last training camp. There were questions we

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Speaker 1: another backup courtback and Gardner and and Nick Foles was

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Speaker 1: not forget when that happens again. Hold on, now, it's

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Speaker 1: not just people on this show, Jeff, you and I

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a consensus that Gardner, mints you was the

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Speaker 1: in the preseason zero or three or something? Was there

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Speaker 1: was nobody tons of questions. When I say nobody, I

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Speaker 1: has a chance to be a good backup. That's what

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Speaker 1: gotten a good backup and we might have to get

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Speaker 1: a bet for there's people who thought in this building

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Speaker 1: one of the things we gotta be really careful here

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Speaker 1: over hype individuals way too quick here and maybe it

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Speaker 1: happens other places. I'm just talking about here, because you

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Speaker 1: anybody something they're not and that's not a shot Gardner.

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Speaker 1: Gardner did what I actually, he did more than I

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Speaker 1: expected him to. I mean more, and and that's the danger.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you have a perception of a guy, is

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Speaker 1: Let's say this. If our perception of a guy coming

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Speaker 1: four maybe, and then all of a sudden he plays

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Speaker 1: But if you had a perception of a guy who's

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Speaker 1: my boy, is, perception changes everything. Where you start with

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Speaker 1: It's a small sample size. Let this thing play out?

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Speaker 1: Does Gardner Minshew has qualities that I love? Absolutely? Does

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Speaker 1: he have qualities I really question? Absolutely? Let it play out.

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Speaker 1: He's a young player. I think it's way too early

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Speaker 1: to I think it's way too early, Jeff to say

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Speaker 1: We're gonna let it play out. But you know, we

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I mean, that's how you have

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Speaker 1: you find a way to keep a guy like that.

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00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: And when you say find a way, because he said

850
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: something to the Pro Bowl that he doesn't think he

851
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: needs to take a discount. Look, if he doesn't need,

852
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to take a discount, I'm gonna

853
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: find a way to make it work for one more year.

854
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: Because but Jeff, I understand what you're saying, but the

855
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: dollars and cents. You're over the cap right now. You

856
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: have to get under the cap just to sign people

857
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: for the draft. If nothing else, you can't take um.

858
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: And that's apparently she's not listening. That's what my kids

859
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: call my mom. Yeah, that's that's that's what they've called

860
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: But he you know, here's how you do it. Don't

861
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: finish and so you like because you got you, I mean,

862
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: you have to decide what you're gonna do it a

863
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: lot of different places where where where where's a cut

864
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: that can be made that's about equal money. I don't

865
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: I think this is one of the most he's well,

866
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean Darius Stars, Yeah, okay, but that's one. By

867
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: the way you keep cutting all these guys, you're creating

868
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: more holes to fill and we talked about that last

869
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: week and and because and Antonio made mention of this

870
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: and that, you know, Dave Caldwell was asked about or

871
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: make comments about getting back into the cap and it was,

872
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was nonchalant, but he

873
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: felt very confident that, you know, they look, we can

874
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: get another cap and be a player. And and I

875
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: was gonna, WHOA, how do you know? That's tough decisions.

876
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: And then if you're a player, then that means you

877
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: gotta be a player because you gotta find somebody to

878
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: take the place of the guys that you just like

879
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: go so you can get into the cab. But I mean,

880
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: my opinion, you gotta find a way to keep a

881
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: guy like Klass and so you pay him. Think he's

882
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: new nineteen this year? Is that j he's fifteen? It's

883
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: like two and a half million, I think is uh

884
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: is what is left in the in the pro raded

885
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: signing bonus and then I think he'll pay out his

886
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen in real money some somewhere in that range.

887
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: But here's the reality. Did he not play over the

888
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: value of fifteen million a year? Not last year, but

889
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: the two years prior to that. Absolutely, you know. So

890
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: if you're trying to find a little bit of justification

891
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: for paying a guy like for some couple dollars and cents,

892
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: for some people, they're like, we don't. And Jeff, you

893
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: and I both have said in fairness like class players

894
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: always feel different, united the same. We always think we

895
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: have more in the tank than um we might. Plays

896
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: is a guy that I think should be paying, playing

897
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: probably less naps than he did last year. Yeah, absolutely,

898
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. So with that, you're gonna

899
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: have a part time player, you're paying fifteen billion plus.

900
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: I get it. I want him on the team too

901
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: because of who he is, if what he brings the

902
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: locker room, his leadership is an impact player. He is

903
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: going if if Josh Allen last year, yes, yes, if

904
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: you had if you Okay, Josh Allen's a part time player.

905
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: He shouldn't be. He needs to be a full time

906
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: absolutely this year, and he will be, I'm sure. But

907
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: that's the kind of role that you envisioned for collaitions.

908
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,959
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, with that role, Josh

909
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: Allen had the numbers, he was impactful, and I think

910
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: the impact players might have better numbers if you played

911
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: less snaps? What what is his number for next year?

912
00:52:52,560 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: Seventeen and change? And it's uh, dead money. So find

913
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: a way to go because here's the thing that with

914
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: that decision, it's not like you're making that decision that's

915
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: gonna hurt you and one and you know what, Hey,

916
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: I gotta win right now. Okay, I'm just gonna ask,

917
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: is there everybody gonna win right now? So you so

918
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: you're saying cut I mean, I mean like darkness is gone, right,

919
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he's probably he's

920
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: definitely gone a j boy a gone. Okay, So that

921
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: gets you that's a tough tough spot to film, Okay,

922
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: but that gets you a probably you're probably thirty three

923
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: under the cap with those two. We say you need

924
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: it for the Rookie class marks another, Um, yeah, you

925
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: get rid of normal. Yeah it's another hold of show.

926
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: Look I'm enough, Okay. Now, it's all because he sees

927
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: a lot of dead probably looking at how how much

928
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: is how much does the Rookie class cast you? What

929
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 1: did we say that number is? And I can't remember

930
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: what it was, but you're still that that's a lot

931
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: of money. Open it up. Yeah, well, I know, look,

932
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: more holes. Now you gotta be a player. You're getting

933
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: rid of free agency. You just got rid of four

934
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: starters on a team that was six or six one

935
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: team last year. M yeah, so what are you saying.

936
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's tough. I agree. I mean, you got

937
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: you got your point of your point of glass is fair.

938
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: But the reality we're hoping he take a little bit

939
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: of a discount. But I don't think. Here's the reality.

940
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: You're feel you're creating more holes for a team that

941
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: had six wins. But here's the reality, right, you also

942
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: had six wins with those guys. That's a great point,

943
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: very good point. So okay, yeah it is you're right right,

944
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: right right? I mean you didn't win me again, what's

945
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: the argument. There's no other argument. Let's go around the

946
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: national football shall we. I mean, you've left the speechless.

947
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: That's how good of an argument. That was? All right,

948
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: you left Tony speechless. That's that's the Kansas City Chiefs,

949
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: for the first time in fifty years, win the Lombardi

950
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: Trophy with a wild comeback in the fourth quarter to

951
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: win Super Bowl fifty four. Tony, you were there, Um,

952
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: what a performance. It was in that fourth quarter. So

953
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: there's like seven minutes left, it's third and fifteen, and

954
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm not making step. We're talking in through the producer

955
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: and everyone else, like what's fort is we're gonna grab

956
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: because at that point the Chiefs had done nothing at all,

957
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: and they were the pastors. Was killing my homes. He

958
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: was not having a good night. I mean, like offensive

959
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 1: life for Campa City played terrible. Outside the right tackle.

960
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: Most of sources was really good. He was good, and

961
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: so I was sitting there thinking, we started talking about

962
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: who we're gonna get new SI was getting beat like

963
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: a drum beat, like a drum if the doctor was

964
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: getting beat. We're talking about like when are we gonna

965
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: get Robert solo. This is a historic defensive performance, I

966
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: mean all this stuff. And then the third and fifteen

967
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: changed at all. And here's the thing. It's a post

968
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: corner by three kills the number two receiver, and it's

969
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: a combination route that Robert saw. They worked on Friday

970
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: and Saturday outside Number one runs a deep end. It's

971
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: cover three post corner, and they made the call They're

972
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: not gonna sit. They're not going to carry the deep end.

973
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: They're gonna let it go in that corner, has to

974
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: get depth for the post, for the post corner. He

975
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 1: bit on the dig in the post corner is wide

976
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: open and he's sitting there just waiting on the ball.

977
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: He's and so literally that play, and they wrapped it,

978
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: and they wrapped it, and they wrapped it. If they

979
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: if the if the guy just doesn't take the cheese,

980
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: take debait and chase that in. He's back there and

981
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: now he may hit the dig, but it's not the

982
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: big play. And boy, that changed everything. That in the call.

983
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: You know, they score, it's a three point game. You're like,

984
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: all right, here comes tone didn't do much well, But

985
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: forget that. I agree with that. But the big thing

986
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: is they run the ball with Mosert first and they

987
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: get five yards and first down. It's second and five.

988
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: This is the second best rushing team in the NFL. Again, Kyle,

989
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: this is when I'm first down. Go run it again.

990
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, your third and two, third and one,

991
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: and and like you got the right where you on him,

992
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: drop out the pack pass into Kyle's defense. You guys

993
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: wide open. He found him. Chris Jones went up and

994
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: deflected the ball. He is wide open guy. Oh yeah,

995
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: he did, he did. He missed. He missed the game

996
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: winner to Manuel Sanders on the open. There's no safety

997
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: Kittle a couple of times. Yeah, I mean Kidles one

998
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: of those guys that you can just stare at him.

999
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: He'll find a way to get on. So yeah, it was,

1000
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: but boy, I was. It was a crazy game. Nuts.

1001
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: Should they pay mahomes s a p Pay him like

1002
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: as much as they want pay him now because it

1003
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: costs more next year, that's right. Price price tag just

1004
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: keeps going up paying him. But he was not very

1005
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: good at the beginning. Now he's getting harassed. He was

1006
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: not well, no, look he wasn't getting harassed. He was

1007
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: getting harassed some but not that much. He's getting harassed

1008
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: and the pressure got to him and he started throwing.

1009
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: He started the clock started taking. He was like, oh

1010
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: my gosh. And then you're going, wait a minute, what

1011
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: are you doing time, dude? Slow down. But it was great.

1012
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: But he overcame it. That's what he did. Great players

1013
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: five and oh in his career. Uh, being down ten

1014
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: points of it's incredible. Congratulations to Andy Reid. Congratulations to

1015
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: Andy heck heck after you know what he said, to me,

1016
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: it only took thirty years. Years and long time player

1017
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: National Football League, played for Chicago Bears and uh coached here,

1018
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: coach a few other places, and he's been with Andy

1019
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: Reid for quite some Congratulations to Chad Henny. Football season's

1020
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: not over, by the way. The Seattle Dragons and the

1021
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: DC Defenders, the l A Wildcats in the Houston Roughnecks.

1022
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: That's Saturday to the Tampa Bay Vipers and the New

1023
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: York Guardians and then the St. Louis battle Hawks in

1024
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: the Dallas Friend of Games. The XFL kicks off. Will

1025
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: you watch if I'm home Saturday or Sunday and it's on,

1026
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: I got nothing going on. I'll probably check it out.

1027
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: Great Joe guys, We'll talk to you guys next week.

1028
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Jeff Logman, J. P. Shatrick. It is Jaguars

1029
00:59:52,760 --> 01:00:00,720
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