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Speaker 1: Great move to the right at the fifty, comes back

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Speaker 1: make a flay hit one hit. Oh my goodness, he

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Speaker 1: got crushed. You've gotta be Kidney, come off the ball

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Speaker 1: with malice. Here's Paul CALVC. I'm not sure anyone's really

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Speaker 1: ever confused yours truly with a hardcore journalist. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: more of a broadcaster. I'm not sure what exactly that entails.

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Speaker 1: I like to think that because sports is entertainment, maybe

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Speaker 1: I fail on that most all the time here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground. So Paul calBC, PAULI Charlatan will go ahead

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Speaker 1: and pose this question to Darren Urban and kwout guard.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys, or do you guys not use Wikipedia

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Speaker 1: as a trusted, verified source of information when writing thy stories? Darren,

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Speaker 1: give me a ruling. I'm gonna say that Wikipedia is

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Speaker 1: but I would definitely tend to try and get a

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Speaker 1: in Wikipedia up at and T Stadium, what might it read? Well,

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Speaker 1: it might have read and to be honest, Paul, this

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Speaker 1: as of Tuesday morning, it said at and T Stadium

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Speaker 1: owned by Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury Comma and also

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Speaker 1: Have you ever bum rushed a Wikipedia page. Kylee, it's

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Speaker 1: more your generation. I mean, come on, be honest. Have

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Speaker 1: in an effort to maybe, you know, improve it in

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Speaker 1: wear this gator. Okay, instead of the mass the gator

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Speaker 1: Over the years, there's always a scam. You gotta keep

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Speaker 1: was getting up into the line quickly. It paid off

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Speaker 1: later in the game where he kind of slid off

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Speaker 1: tackle a couple of times and gained twenty and twenty

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Speaker 1: two yards. It paid off the early I mean, how

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Speaker 1: do you not love the early run and it was

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Speaker 1: only worth three or four or five yards, but where

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Speaker 1: he went up into the line and basically bowled over

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Speaker 1: that running or the defensive back, I mean, that's just

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Speaker 1: not something we had seen. He was running with passion

437
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: and so I don't know what got into him last night,

438
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Speaker 1: but it was really great to see. And I think

439
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Speaker 1: it's really important for this team to have Kenyan Drake

440
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 1: playing like they were hoping he was going to play.

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Speaker 1: And once again we see the potential of the offense.

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00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: They start out punt, punt, punt, and then go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

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Speaker 1: So just I know we've talked about this numerous times.

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Speaker 1: What happens when they finally dial it all in. Okay,

445
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: the offense isn't there yet, Kyle is the defense there.

446
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: The defense right now is number two the NFL in

447
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: scoring d I mean I know the numbers, okay, but

448
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: when I saw Baltimore won best scoring defense in the NFL,

449
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals two, Steelers three. That's some pretty lofty company. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been a fantastic start. And I understand the argument

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Speaker 1: from a lot of fans that the Cardinals have faced

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Speaker 1: a week portion of their schedule when it comes to

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Speaker 1: opposing offenses, and there's no debate about that. So well,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals finished the season number two and points allowed,

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Speaker 1: probably not, but considering where they came from when they

456
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Speaker 1: were arguably the worst defense in the NFL last season,

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Speaker 1: and when we talked preseason, we thought fifteen to twenty

458
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Speaker 1: would be a nice showing for this defense. I think

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Speaker 1: expectations have clearly been raised. I think this defense can

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Speaker 1: be a top twelve defense. That's probably a fair expectation

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Speaker 1: for them. And if that happens, if the offense finds

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Speaker 1: that groove that we think they can reach, then you're

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Speaker 1: talking about both sides of the ball being very competitive

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Speaker 1: and you can beat anybody when you have a top

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Speaker 1: twelve defense that's the lesser of your two units. So

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals are in really good shape if

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Speaker 1: they continue to do to this Defensively, I think putting

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Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick on the edge has been really important. Having

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Speaker 1: Devondre Campbell fill that gaping hole. They've just ironed out

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Speaker 1: a lot of the issues from last season, and there's

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Speaker 1: not a ton of star power now, especially without Chandler Jones.

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Speaker 1: But man, the depth this year compared to last is

473
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Speaker 1: just night and day. And when you got Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: playing like he is, if Bayern Murphy continues to come

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Speaker 1: along and Devondre Campbell continues to play well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals have the horses defensively to keep

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Speaker 1: this up in a way where there's still a pretty

478
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Speaker 1: good defense the whole season. What are the categories? Red

479
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Speaker 1: zone defense? Aren't they top three? Third down defense? I

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Speaker 1: think their top five? Because I asked me, I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: is that a byproduct truly? Just the competition and some

482
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Speaker 1: of the unept offenses that they played. But there are

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Speaker 1: other categories. Obviously there are things to be worked on.

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Speaker 1: But Darren, what's sort of stepped forward? And when you

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Speaker 1: hear a Buddha Baker, by the way, he had the

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Speaker 1: seven tackles, a sack in interception of force bumble, two

487
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Speaker 1: quarterback hits, and it was named Captain Paul. He was

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Speaker 1: named Captain to see on his chest, great observation. I

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Speaker 1: totally forgot to ask coach Cliff about that. God dang it. Anyway, Um,

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Speaker 1: if you did, I hear right, the Buddha Baker said

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Speaker 1: that they played more team defense in the absence of

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. Was that was that correct? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think what he basically said that we were I'm paraphrasing,

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Speaker 1: but he basically said we communicated better, we were we

495
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Speaker 1: were all together better. I don't know if I guess

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Speaker 1: that could be seen as a better team defense, but

497
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: he felt like they all kind of were on the

498
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Speaker 1: same page for the first time, and that's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's always really hard to tell. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: you would know that better than others. But I also

501
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: think that sometimes that's that is it a chicken or

502
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: the egg thing. Once you have some success against the

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Speaker 1: team and it starts going better, it just feels like

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Speaker 1: there's there's going to be a better communication because you're

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Speaker 1: just playing better. And having Andy Dalton behind center is

506
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Speaker 1: a lot different than Russell Wilson behind center. And we're

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Speaker 1: going to see how well that communication goes this week.

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Speaker 1: But let's face it, all the talk going into that

509
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Speaker 1: game was, oh my god, they lost Chandler Jones. What

510
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Speaker 1: the heck are they going to do? And the first

511
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Speaker 1: couple of times they had a chance to rush the passer,

512
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Speaker 1: they made life hell for Andy Dalton And that's that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming in. And again, lots of

514
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Speaker 1: caveats here. The Cowboys. Every single one of their offensive

515
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: lineman is hurt. They had one of their Pro bowlers

516
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Speaker 1: still there and he got hurt early in the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're looking like, you know, twenty eighteen

518
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals offensive line right now in terms of how deep

519
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: they've gone into their depth chart. But you know, you

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Speaker 1: take it where you can get it. And the team

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Speaker 1: they had put out in front of him was Dallas

522
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: and they dominated that game. And I think that's a

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Speaker 1: good sign in terms of at least having sorry, Kyle,

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00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: a little momentum going forward, at least mentally well. And

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Speaker 1: there is such a thing as confidence. And if a

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Speaker 1: guy like his son Reddick gets a little bit of confidence,

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Speaker 1: and we know the sort of game he had, and

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Speaker 1: whether it's because he's starting to believe in his own skills,

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Speaker 1: whether it's because he's getting used to that position again,

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Speaker 1: maybe he's just better suited to that position. Obviously, that's

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Speaker 1: not even a debate at this point. I guess the

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Speaker 1: question be gumes House sustainable. Is his son Reddick to

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Speaker 1: be a real threat at an opposing offense? Dare I

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00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: say it might have to game plan against. Yeah. I

535
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: mean you look at his athletic skill set and it's

536
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: off the charts. It's not like this guy is just

537
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: doing it because he's just you know, outworking people or whatever.

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Speaker 1: He's a very, very gifted athlete, and you saw that

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Speaker 1: at the combine, like he can do everything incredibly well.

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Speaker 1: The big question was at his size, would he be

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Speaker 1: able to get around or get through offensive linemen that

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00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: really have a big size advantage on him. And he's

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Speaker 1: shown he can do it with those sacks and leading

544
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Speaker 1: the team at this point. So he's probably not Chandler Jones,

545
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Speaker 1: and he's certainly not an every down player where he

546
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: can hold up against the run consistently as well as

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Speaker 1: somebody that's bigger than him. But I've really liked what

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00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: I've seen from Hassan Reddick. He's a speed rusher who

549
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: can wreak some havoc when he's going well, and I

550
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals found something. It was really smart to

551
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: put him at outside linebacker and see if he could

552
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: work there because inside was not working. And the fact

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Speaker 1: that they have this backup plan to me is so

554
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: important because I you know, I talk about the regression

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00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: and I think the red zone defense being number two,

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00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: it's hard to sustain that because going back to last year,

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Speaker 1: when I talk about the small sample of red zone defense,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's just automatic. The Cardinals are going

559
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: to be great in the red zone. I think there's

560
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: too many factors in play. So if that comes down

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00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, your overall defense has to be better.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at the overall numbers, their number

563
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: ten in rush defense and number ten in past defense

564
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: when Football Outsiders gives them defensive efficiency numbers. So you're

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Speaker 1: doing a good job against both. And I think having

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Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick step up is a big part of it

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00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: moving forward to have that consistent pass rush. And look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into X's nose because I

569
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: officially get over my skis. But when we're watching and

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00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: it's the all twenty two, look, because we're sky high

571
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: in the Dallas booth and you're looking down and you

572
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: can't help but notice, wait, a minute, they're rushing three,

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Speaker 1: dropping eight, and that's Devon Kannard on the nose in

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Speaker 1: a four point stance, and then at other times are

575
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: bringing six, and at other times you have both safeties

576
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: blitzing and in Isaiah Simmons dropping into center field. It

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00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: got pretty exotic at times, Darren, and you know Vans

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Speaker 1: Joseph has got a lot of accolades, and from what

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00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: I can tell, rightfully, so bottom line is when you

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Speaker 1: lose a guy like Chandler Jones, I feel like you

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00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: do have to get somewhat exotic. You have to give

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Speaker 1: a bunch of looks that people aren't expecting, because that's

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00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: really what you have to do. If you don't have

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Speaker 1: the horses, you got to find the scheme. And I think,

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00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: especially in terms of the past rush and the past defense,

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00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: there's an element to that. And that's not taking away

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Speaker 1: what Hassan Reddick has done, or what Dennis Gardeck has

588
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: done or any of those guys, but that is what

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00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: has to be done. And the question now becomes when

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00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: you play the Seattle Seahawks, when you play a quarterback

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Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson, who all those times that the Cardinals

592
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: have had success against Seattle of late, especially in Seattle,

593
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: it started because Russell Wilson's been under dress the whole game.

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00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean last year Chandler Jones had four sacks. I

595
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: remember Class Campbell having a couple of great games against

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00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. It's because Russell Wilson feels the pressure. Now

597
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: he's got a better receiving core right now, and a

598
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: little bit better of an offensive line. And oh, by

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00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: the way, he's Russell Wilson. So can you still do

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00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: all these things and confuse him like you did in

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00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. I'm not sure that's possible, And I guess

602
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: we're going to see how that plays out. Yeah, Buddha

603
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: tell in the media that they really we're on top

604
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: of disguising coverages. If they were in a two high,

605
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: they would show one high and vice versa. And so

606
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: they really made it a point to disguise anything and everything.

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00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: And you're right, Darren, I mean, if you have the horses.

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00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: For example, let's use Seattle back in the Legion of

609
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: Boom days, they played cover three and they lined up

610
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: and they had their front seven, and they had those

611
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: four dbs and let's play and they didn't change from

612
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: year to year, from game to game. I mean I

613
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: remember asking Larry more than once, So are Larry, what

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00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: do they do on defense? Like? What do we need

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00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: to know about? Paul? Every time they do the same thing.

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00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: It's the same Seattle defensive scheme because they have all

617
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: these Pro bowlers out there at all three levels. And

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00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, so I get it. But when you go

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Speaker 1: against Russell Wilson right now, Kyle nineteen touchdown passes through

620
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: five games in NFL history, only Peyton Manning had a

621
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: season where he had more through five games than I

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00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: was his MVP campaign. His passer rating is just under

623
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: one thirty. That's not for a single game, that's for

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00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: a season. A passer rating to one thirty. It is

625
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: a little different Russell Wilson based on what we've heard,

626
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole bunch of it, but he's all,

627
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: dare I say, a throw, first run, second offense right now? Right,

628
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: Russell Cook? Right? So are we back to this being

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Speaker 1: a passing league, Paul? Because Seahawks they're having their most

630
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: success offensively ever, and it's because they're throwing. It's a

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Speaker 1: different Seahawks success. That's what it is necessitated by the parts,

632
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: not by the scheme or buy some sort of devotion

633
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: to the numbers or the passing game. It's out of

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00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: necessity based, and we can tell on their personnel. No,

635
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's absolutely because of the numbers and then

636
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: realizing that it makes sense to throw when you have

637
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: an MVP candidate at quarterback. So the Cardinals and everybody

638
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: else were lucky that they were a little bit behind

639
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: on the trend with that, but they're up to date

640
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: now and they're throwing all the time. Yeah, this offense

641
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: is great. And you know the Cardinals defense, we talked

642
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: about the continuity aspect and the schematics. I think that's

643
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: a big deal right now. Where they were completely right.

644
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: They said if once these guys learn the system, they'll

645
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: look more comfortable. And I think Deontay Thompson and Byron

646
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Murphy and even Buddha Baker, all these guys really understand

647
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: what they're doing defensively now and they're very in sync.

648
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: I think, never more so than that Dallas game. But yeah,

649
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: now we get now we get the big question is

650
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: can they just individually stop a Tyler Lockett and a

651
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: dk Metcalf and whoever Russell Wilson is throwing too, because

652
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: you can scheme it up perfectly. If you lose your

653
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: one on one battle, it doesn't matter. And to me,

654
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: that's the big question is do the Cardinals have enough

655
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: talent on the back end to shut down these guys,

656
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: especially Tyler Lockett's that's a guy that really scares me. Yeah,

657
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know, it's encouraged by it,

658
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: not necessarily the final stats on those Dallas receivers, but

659
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't think we saw a single

660
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: Dallas receiver just wide open communication, gaff failure to switch

661
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: on some of those crossers and rub routes, which obviously

662
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: was a problem in the Carolina game for example, we

663
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: didn't see any of that, and as a result, guess what,

664
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: there were mostly contested catches as opposed to wide open receivers.

665
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: So that, as much as anything makes me bullish on

666
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: the Cardinals defense, that perhaps they've turned a corner without

667
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: a preseason and offseason that they've na navigated through and

668
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: hopefully resolved a lot of the communication issues and errors

669
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: and emmys that we had talked about. Because when you

670
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: talk about Russell Wilson, you're also talking about a guy

671
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what Minnesota did in that first half

672
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: of their last game where they're up thirteen nothing, Russell

673
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: Wilson got shut out, and then what does he do?

674
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: He leads them all the way back in the second

675
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: half in ninety four yards and under two minutes and

676
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: a fourth down pass play to DK Metcalf for the

677
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: game winner and boom, Russell Wilson puts the Seahawks to five.

678
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: And oh, so we know what they've done here in

679
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: the ac Darren. They have not lost in the Cardinals

680
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: home stadium since Russell Wilson was a rookie correct twenty twelve.

681
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: Baby wow. And he still almost won that game they

682
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: were in. They were inside the fifteen yard line, I believe,

683
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: and they had to stop him on fourth down. Yeah,

684
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: that was a harbinger of things to come. So considering

685
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: the NFC West, how big is this game? Seattle could

686
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: be the class of the NFL as far as we know,

687
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: along with Kansas City. I mean, to what degree are

688
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: you going to be disappointed at the Cardinals do not

689
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: get a win against his team? Well? I mean, I

690
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: don't know disappointed as a momented word, and I think

691
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways I mean, some of it

692
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: has to do with how this game goes. I mean,

693
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: I don't it's going to be hard to argue any

694
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: anybody hard to argue that Seattle is not the better

695
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: team right now. So there's that. But you know, I

696
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals need to play well and I think

697
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: they need to be competitive, and they need to put

698
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: themselves in a place where they could potentially win now

699
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: even if they don't, that's one thing. But I mean,

700
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: let's face it, if you have hopes of somehow winning

701
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: this divisions, it's kind of a must win because you

702
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: don't want to go down three games, two and a

703
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: half games three in the lost column to a team

704
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: already when you're almost halfway through the season. But at

705
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: the same time, division winning isn't everything, and you're it's

706
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: not over if you do lose. I just feel like

707
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: this is the measuring stick that they really need. I mean,

708
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: they did a nice job against the forty nine ers

709
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: to open the season, but we all know the forty

710
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: nine ers weren't quite all the way there in terms

711
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: of health, and they never are going to be this season.

712
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think the Rams are still a very

713
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: good team, but the Seahawks are the class of the

714
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: division right now, and I think that's the measuring stick

715
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: of what you get. And getting them on a short

716
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: week is going to be interesting. And the next time

717
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: you play them, it's going to be a short week

718
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: because you have to go up to Seattle on a

719
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Thursday night. That's right. Well, but Seattle's defense, I mean,

720
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: they have the best quarterback in the NFL right now,

721
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: But do they have the best team Because you look

722
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: at Seattle's defense, Kyle and man, the numbers are not

723
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: kind there. This might be out there, but I'm not

724
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: sure the Seahawks are demonstrably better than the Cardinals right now,

725
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: or the Rams or the Niners. I mean, I think

726
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: I think all these teams are very close. If the

727
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Seahawks had a different result on the fourth down against

728
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots and a different result on the fourth down

729
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: against the Vikings, there are three and two and the

730
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: narratives completely different. So I think they're a very good team.

731
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: But like you said, Paul, they have issues defensively. I

732
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals, if you don't throw three have three

733
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: turnovers against the Lions, you have another win. Like There's

734
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of very close things. I think the

735
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: Rams could have beaten the Bills. Like, I'm not looking

736
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: at the records very closely because I think there's a

737
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: lot of noise in overall records. And from what I've

738
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: seen from the Cardinals and the Seahawks and the Rams

739
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: and the Niners, I think all these teams are very

740
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: close in talent level. And yeah, it's it's a big

741
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: game obviously, when you look at the standings and when

742
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: you play sixteen games, you have to win these games.

743
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: And I think I think the Cardinals have a shot.

744
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals are a more balanced team, but

745
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks have the trunk card in the better quarterback

746
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: right now. So it should be a really fun game.

747
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, if the Cardinals won, it wouldn't surprise

748
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: me at all. I think they have the talent to

749
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: play with the Seahawks, and and don't get me wrong,

750
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they won either. I just

751
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit I understand that while they've had

752
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: some close games, the Seahawks, I feel like there's a

753
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: reason why they ended up winning them too. So yeah,

754
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: in Seattle's line couldn't get a yard, Yeah, Seattle's old

755
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: line isn't Dallas bad, but it's been below average for

756
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: many years. So I mean that's another facet, another position

757
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: group on the Seattle team. At least to me, it

758
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: can be had. Obviously we saw last year when Chandler

759
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: Jones at a four stack game in their building. But

760
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: there is something and you guys have seen it. I've

761
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: been down on the field ten yards away from it.

762
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: They love to come to the Cardinal's side of the

763
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: field and get that group chant going, and they'll do

764
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: it right there in front of the Cardinals, right about

765
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line and their side of the field.

766
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: It's almost like a high school type thing, like a

767
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: high school Riberry, We're going into your stadium and we're

768
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna try and punk you. They bring and the times

769
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: where the Cardinals bring the energy and they match that intensity,

770
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: it's been some of the most ferocious football you've ever seen.

771
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: We all remember the six six slug fest that went

772
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: in overtime, but there have been other times where if

773
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: the Cardinals aren't ready to go, and hello short week

774
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: when the Seahawks are coming off of bye, if you're

775
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: not ready to match what is one of the most

776
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: anticipated games you talk to some of the Seattle people

777
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: up there. They love that Seahawk team and Pete Carroll,

778
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: whatever culture he's instilled in that team. They love to

779
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: come down to the opponents buildings in the NFC West

780
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: and just beat them in their own place. They live

781
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: for that as a team for whatever reason. And so

782
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I'm gonna look at, just already,

783
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: are the Cardinals to match what's going to be that

784
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: sort of ferocity from Seattle? What else in this game, Darren?

785
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: There's the anything else that immediately comes to mind when

786
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: you try and break down this matchup. Well, I mean

787
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: just the fact that the Cardinals are gonna have a

788
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: little a little bit bigger of a fan base. There's

789
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, about twelve hundred fans that are going to

790
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: be there, and I'm sure some of them again will

791
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: be player and staff people, but they're gonna have some

792
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: regular fans, and you know, it's a very small amount

793
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: compared to like the twenty five thousand we saw in Dallas.

794
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that there aren't any Seattle fans that get

795
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: in there, because obviously normally this is a game that

796
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: has a lot of Seattle fans out there. So It'll

797
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how that breaks down. I'm curious

798
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: about that and whether it influences anything. Again, twelve hundred

799
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: people in that giant of a building isn't a lot.

800
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: We've had more people than that at training camp practices.

801
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: So does it make away perhaps not. There were were

802
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals uniforms you saw him as well. That red Sea

803
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: did represent to a small degree, and they infiltrated Dallas

804
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: and I may hey, some of the Cowboys maybe weren't

805
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: happy they had fans in there because they got booed

806
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: repeatedly during the course of that game by the twenty

807
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: five thousand fans that we were in there. So but

808
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: I tell you, it's gonna be interesting to see how

809
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: Kyler rebounds with some of the passing shortcomings in this

810
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: last game, and exactly how Kyler Murray takes the matchup

811
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson, because we all know everyone is looking

812
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: for a comp and really the only one to me

813
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: that even makes sense, even to making sense, would would

814
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: be a Russell Wilson. And I just if you have

815
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: a team the Cardinals that as a tendency is a

816
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: young team to play to the level of its competition,

817
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: I think maybe this is the game where you get

818
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: the best out of the Arizona Cardinals in the most

819
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: complete game just based on It's not to say they're

820
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: gonna win the game, but I think the caliber of

821
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: the game and the performance I'm expecting the best we've

822
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: seen yet out of the Cardinals just based on the

823
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: Seahawks being on their field. If you get the best

824
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: and most complete game from the Cardinals, they're gonna win

825
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: the game. They the talent golf is not that big

826
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: to me, where if the Cardinals execute well, I don't

827
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: see how they lose because I think these teams are

828
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: pretty similar in talent level. And going back to the

829
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: comp thing, like Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson, I think

830
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: he's definitely the closest comp But Kyler Murray doesn't have

831
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: a comp that we've ever seen in the NFL, Like

832
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: he's that electric of a runner and he's that good

833
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: of a passer to me, where Michael Vick was a

834
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: great runner, but he didn't have to touch Lamar Jackson,

835
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: great runner, didn't have the touch. A lot of guys

836
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: are very good throwers of the football, but they don't

837
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: have the electric wheels that Kyler Murray has, so I

838
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: truly don't think we have a comp for what Kyler

839
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: Murray can be. And that's why I think this offense

840
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: is so exciting and has such a high ceiling because

841
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: of what he brings. And on the other side of

842
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: the ball. I really want to see DK Metcalf and

843
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: what the Cardinals do against him, because Patrick Peterson absolutely

844
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: shut him down last year in Seattle didn't have a catch.

845
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf had one catch for six yards here. That

846
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: was early in his rookie years, so that's kind of

847
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: a pass. But he was playing well at the end

848
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: and Patrick Peterson did a great job on him. If

849
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: he can do something similar, that would be really important.

850
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: Because DK Metcalf has taken a huge step forward. There

851
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: are still questions about is Patrick Peterson the same lockdown

852
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: cornerback he used to be. I think it's a huge

853
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: game to see who wins that matchup. If they do

854
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: shadow and if Patrick Peterson holds his own, then you

855
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: can help against the other guys that are running routes,

856
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: and I just think that's such a pivotal matchup in

857
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: this game. DK Metcalf is one of those few receivers

858
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: who physically takes it to a dB. He's that Terrell

859
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: Owens type who an an Quon Bolden, who's actually more

860
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: aggressive in terms of the mindset and the physicality of

861
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: the game than the defender. He's just he's very intriguing

862
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: guy to watch, and Pat does have experience going against

863
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: at least that body type, and a Calvin Johnson I

864
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: think of a Julio Jones. I think of those types

865
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: just the absolute specimens. DK Metcalf six four and Chiseled

866
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean just a physicality alone. If Patrick Peterson's up

867
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: traveling with him much like you did Amari Cooper for

868
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: almost three quarters of that game, that is, they need

869
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: a picture and picture and a special camera devoted to

870
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: that matchup, No doubt. It's funny because for DK Metcalf,

871
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: with me, quite frankly, I think less about Patrick Peterson

872
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: and more about the angry Cardinals fan base, because you

873
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: can't do anything about DK Metcalf or Andy Isabella for

874
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: that matter, without people being angry that the Cardinals drafted

875
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella instead of DK Metcalf, and I understand it,

876
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: and I do know that some of them were saying

877
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: it at the time before the pick, even happened. So,

878
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. And DK Metcalf has

879
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: turned out to be a pretty good receiver. I mean,

880
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: I think he's got some growing to do. I still

881
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: feel like in a lot of ways he's a one

882
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: trick pony. He's a very good one trick pony. But

883
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: it's not like I mean a lot of his yards

884
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: are I mean, they send him deep and they tell

885
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: him go win the ball. Now he wins it every time,

886
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: and he's doing a great job. But it's not like

887
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: he's getting six seven, eight catches a game. That's not

888
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: his role. And so I will be interested to see

889
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: how Patrick Peterson deals with that. If just real quick

890
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: and we'll wrap this up. If Pat Pete travels with

891
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, who you think is the most logical matchup

892
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: on Tyler Lockett because a lot of man against Dallas

893
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: and those three legitimate receivers. What do you do about

894
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett then? And I think you just play it

895
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: normally you're not gonna follow him. But if he's still

896
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: lining up in the slot a lot, obviously the responsibility

897
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: to be on Bayer Murphy to to guard him, and

898
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: that's a good matchup byer Murphy played his best game

899
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: of his career against the Cowboys. He's got a nose

900
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: for the ball, but I still think sometimes in coverage

901
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: he will lose guys at times, So I think he's

902
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of a work in progress still in coverage.

903
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: And you're going against an elite technician and Tyler Lockett

904
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: who makes cornerbacks look silly very often, So I think

905
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: that's a really important matchup. But like I was saying,

906
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: if Patrick Peterson can successfully guard DK Metcalf and you

907
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: can give safety help against Tyler Lockett and the other

908
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: tight ends and receivers, the Cardinals are in a lot

909
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: better shape when you got when you could play a

910
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: certain leverage. You know Buddha Baker has got your help

911
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: on the other side. That makes things a lot easier

912
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: for the other corners. And again, if you run the

913
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 1: ball forty times from two hundred and fifty three yards

914
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: like the Cardinals did last year Week sixteen at Seattle,

915
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson only completes sixteen passes, guess what, that's

916
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: what turns into a twenty seven thirteen win, like the

917
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals did late last season. So you didn't even have

918
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray for half that game. You're right, You're right.

919
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: And actually my last Sea memory of that game was

920
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: Brett Humley and you guys saw it. He led that

921
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: touchdown drive and then turned to the Cardinals bench and

922
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: took the bow. And so that was outstanding. That that was.

923
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: That was hilarious stuff. And U and actually he ran it.

924
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: He ran it, did not go out of bounds two

925
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: or three times when he came in for Kyler Murray.

926
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: He got some good some good running yards at the

927
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: second level. So and now it's Chris Streveler time to shine?

928
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: Why why didn't we see Streveler in the fourth quarter? Honestly, see,

929
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: we were going so well on Cardinals underground. There was

930
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: no outrage whatsoever, no reason to get my boxers in

931
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: a bunch. And then why why would we not we

932
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: saw that Ben de new guy? I mean, why didn't

933
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: we see Struggler? What's going on? I mean, if you

934
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: can see a rookie out of James Madison, who's you know,

935
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: musta choli I buy? I think isn't that the Nucci

936
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: brand pasta that I buy in at Safeway? I mean, then,

937
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, come on, now, if only you

938
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: had thirty minutes of access to Cliff Kingsbury on Tuesday afternoon,

939
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: where you could have asked him that's right. Well, if

940
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: I get a question in between wolf Wolf's over there

941
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: asking about the intricacies of the Wishbone Guards, the Guards

942
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: Center trap and justin feud pulled on second and three. Okay,

943
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: you know what I need this Seattle game. I need

944
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: a home game, Darren. I know you need a home game.

945
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: You know we got four days to get some sleep,

946
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: because going to bed at three thirty in the morning

947
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: and get up at four thirty in the morning, you

948
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: end up with a little bit of a punchy edition

949
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: of Cardinals Underground