1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain stuff, a production of I heart radio. Hey, 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: brain stuff, Lauren Volgabon here. Britain's longest serving monarch, Queen 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Elizabeth the second, died September eight two at the age 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: of ninety six. The monarchy and its modern powers and 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: assets are twistingly complex and certainly worth a number of episodes, 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: but today let's talk about an element that served to 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: humanize the Queen, her love of Corgis. The Queen owned 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: pure bred corgies for more than eight decades and for 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: stretches in the nineteen eighties she collected packs of up 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: to thirteen at a time, most of them bred on 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: the premises at Windsor Castle. The small ruddy haired corgy 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: breed known as the Welsh pembroke are so closely associated 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: with the Queen that many people think it's an official 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: royal line that goes back centuries before the article. This 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: episode is based on how stuff work. Spoke Kierra Ferrell, 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: lie brarian and collections manager at the UK Kennel Club 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen. She said that's a question we're 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: asked a lot. Is the Corgy of Royal Dog? Do 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: they have a long association with the Royal Family? The 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: answer is no. The Queen got one when she was 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: a young girl and has been devoted to them ever since. 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 1: The Queen's very first corgy was bought in nineteen thirty 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: three by her father, King George the six, when he 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: was still the Duke of York. Elizabeth, then seven years old, 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: and her younger sister, Margaret, started out calling the puppy 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: the duke and fell for him instantly. By the time 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: his nickname had been familiarized to Dukie, he was joined 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: by second Corgi, named Lady Jane. They were beloved pets, 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: but also a candy marketing tool. The Royal Family soon 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: capitalized on those first cuddly corgies to deflect attention from 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: a royal scandal. Photo Book titled Our Princesses and their 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: dogs was released on December eleven of nineteen thirty six, 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: just days before King Edward the eighth addicated the throne 34 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: to marry the American socialite and Divorcee Wallace Simpson. The 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: photo book assured British subjects that their new king, Elizabeth's, 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: father wasn't some loud like his brother from. After all, 37 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: he had these adorable daughters with dogs. Dukie and Jane 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: were the Princess's close companions growing up, though Jane was 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: tragically struck and killed by a car in nineteen forty four. 40 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: That same year, for Elizabeth's Eighteenth Birthday, she received the 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: dog that would turn out to launch her lifelong fascination 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: with not just corgis but corgy breeding. The dog's name 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: was Susan. Generations of the Queen's Corgis have come from 44 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: Susan's line, but the Queen often hand picking matches. Elizabeth 45 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: and Susan were inseparable from the start. When she married 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: Prince Philip in ninety seven, she snuck Susan with her 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: on their honeymoon, and Susan remained by Elizabeth's side when 48 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: her father died in nineteen fifty two, making Elizabeth the 49 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: Queen at the age of five. In press photos from 50 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties, the young Queen is shown with her 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: beloved Corgi almost more than her husband. Susan's prominence as 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: the Queen's corgy did wonders for the breed's popularity. The 53 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: Kettle Club registrations of pure bred Pembroke Welsh corgis peaked 54 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty with nine thousand a year. Farrell said, 55 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: it did spark a huge interest in what up to 56 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: then had been a niche breed. Today, Corgi registrations are 57 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: down to about five hundred a year. That's a big 58 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: drop from its heyday. Corgis are known for being lively, 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: hardy and highly intelligent. They were originally bred and whales 60 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: as cattle dogs, where they're compact load of the ground 61 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: build enabled them to Nipet the cattle's heels to keep 62 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: them in line. The corgis loud sharp bark also helps 63 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: it seem bigger and more authoritative than it appears. There 64 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: are two breeds of dogs called Corgis, the pembroke and 65 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: the Cardigan. The CARDIGAN is larger and longer than the PEMBROKE, 66 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: with more rounded ears. Of both breeds usually live around 67 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: twelve years. Of course, not everybody is keen on small, 68 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: energetic dogs with Yippy barks that nip at your heels, 69 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: and that's why when somebody comes into the Kennel Club 70 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: looking for a new pet, Farrell advises them to do 71 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: some research about what a breed of dog did historically. 72 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: She said. What was their job? Are Those traits going 73 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: to suit your lifestyle? Can you give them the exercise 74 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: that they need and the space that they need? If 75 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: it's not the dog for you, there's lots of other 76 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: dogs to choose from. The Queen didn't mind the rowdy 77 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: energy of her corgies. In fact, she bread fruits specifically, 78 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: along with the preference for Red Coats. Her cousin lady 79 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Margaret Rhodes, told Vanity Fair for a long feature on 80 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: this subject back that the Queen loved taking her roll 81 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: king pack of Corgies for long walks in the Scottish countryside. 82 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: While the rest of the Royal Family are certainly doggy 83 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: by nature, that's earl's term, not mine. They weren't all 84 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: huge fans of the Queen's corgis. Prince Harry told the 85 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: BBC in I've spent the last thirty three years being 86 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: barked at. His older brother Williams, said as much in 87 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: a twelve interview quote. They're barking all the time. I 88 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: don't know how she copes with it. The breed's Bark 89 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: nous and its association with a now bygone era likely 90 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: contributed to the steep drop in the corgis popularity over time. 91 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: In the situation became dire enough that the Kennel club 92 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: put the pembroke Welsh corgy on its vulnerable native breeds list, 93 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: which calls attention to breeds with fewer than three hundred 94 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: registrations a year. But then Netflix released its hit TV 95 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: series the crown, in which dramatizes the life of young 96 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Elizabeth as she marries and becomes the Queen, including lots 97 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: of scenes with her corgis. That Farrell noted that corgy 98 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: registrations increased by six in seventeen and then jumped by 99 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: in she said, while the numbers are still relatively low, 100 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: there's been a clear increase in registrations and I think 101 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: we can attribute that to the depiction of the Queen 102 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and her Corgis in popular culture. In the United States. 103 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: The breed continues to be very popular. The American Kennel 104 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: Club currently ranks the pembroke Welsh Corgi at number thirteen 105 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: out of a hundred and ninety three breeds in terms 106 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: of popularity. In two thousand two the queen made the 107 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: difficult decision, following the deaths of both her sister and 108 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: the Queen Mum, that she would stop breeding Corgis so 109 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: that none of them would outlive her and be forced 110 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: to grieve her loss. Farrell explained that a lot of 111 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: older pet owners are forced to make the same difficult 112 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: choice not to take in a young dog. For working 113 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: dogs that are bred to have a close relationship with 114 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: a particular shepherd, the separation can be hard on the animal. 115 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: Farrell said, Corgis like their person and the Queen is 116 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: their person. However, after the death of her husband, Prince 117 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Philip Her son, Prince Andrew Gifted Elizabeth with a new 118 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: corgy to keep her other corgy company. She also had 119 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: a Dorgy, a cross between a Corgi and a Docksin, 120 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: and a Cocker Spaniel. At the time, one monty Roberts, 121 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: who served as a horse and dog breeding adviser to 122 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: the Queen, told Vanity Fair how devastated the Queen was 123 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: after a previous Corgy, Monty, died in at the time 124 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: he asked the Queen about breeding a replacement for Monty. 125 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Robert said to Vanity Fair I have no right to 126 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: try to force her into continuing to bring on young 127 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: puppies if she doesn't want to. That isn't my right. 128 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: But it still concerns me because I want her to 129 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: believe in her existence until she's no longer here, because 130 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: she's just too important to the world to contemplate checking out. 131 00:07:52,040 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: For me, the Queen can't die. Today's episod out is 132 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: based on the article how Queen Elizabeth fell in love 133 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: with corgies on how stuff works dot com, written by 134 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: Dave roose. Brain stuff is production of I heart radio 135 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: in partnership with how stuff works dot com, and it's 136 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: produced by Tyler Clang. 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