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Speaker 1: Bobby Belt.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday, Everyone, Welcome to Cowboys Cross Talk live on the

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Speaker 2: Club at the Star in Frisco. I'm Bobby Belt from

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Speaker 2: one through the Fan. Tonight, I'm joined by my one

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Speaker 2: O five through the Fan teammate Will Chambers. As always,

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Speaker 2: we've got the three time Super Bowl champion, six time Pro.

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Speaker 3: Bowler Nate Newton.

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Speaker 2: Although as I was corrected last week by Charles Halem,

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Speaker 2: so just call you Big Pop.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 4: Listen to everything Charles tells you to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got, I got a throttle back. I gotta

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Speaker 3: pick and.

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Speaker 5: Choose when you finished something.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, and our guest tonight is former Alabama Crimson

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Speaker 2: Tide safety, a second rapt pick of the Cowboys, a

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Speaker 2: five year NFL vetter Tony Dixon to thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: All What did I say wrong?

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Speaker 5: Nate?

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Speaker 3: What we're gonna get me feel?

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Speaker 6: Was so funny. He had Charles on the string. He

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Speaker 6: was working and he was doing this day he was

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Speaker 6: questioned us. Did he mess around to say, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 6: well I was talking about.

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Speaker 5: Your mom and dad. He called him by their first name.

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Speaker 2: I did, I said, okay, okay, so so I had

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Speaker 2: I had I interviewed Charles had said your parents Georgia, Virginia, Haley,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't and he didn't saything about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I get I had reference your parents Georgia, Virginia.

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Speaker 3: He's like, that's mister and missus. Okay, that's all it takes.

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Speaker 5: It takes.

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Speaker 3: That was about ninety second.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but it was great because he got in back

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Speaker 6: from the hook.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 3: It was a great interview. Last week, after this one's done,

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Speaker 3: you guys can go back and check out that one, Tony.

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Speaker 2: You know I've made the reference there, Alabama Crimson Tide

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Speaker 2: safety and you know, Alabama, I gotta at least push

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Speaker 2: a little bit because because obviously there was a big

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Speaker 2: controversy with your alma mater this week, and uh it

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Speaker 2: plays in luckily here in Dallas with the s m

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Speaker 2: U Mustangs getting in the playoff over the Alabama Crimson

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Speaker 2: tight is there is there anything you want to say

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Speaker 2: to eulogize the Crimson Tide season or anything else.

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Speaker 7: But you know what, here's what I will say. When

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Speaker 7: we started the season out, people didn't think was going

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Speaker 7: to have a winning season. They said the Debo which

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Speaker 7: is his name, They said he would not be that

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Speaker 7: coach that would know how to coach in the SEC.

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Speaker 7: I mean three losses, that's I mean, that's when you're

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Speaker 7: what you're talking about. We're talking about a team that

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Speaker 7: has three losses and they think is a season? This

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Speaker 7: went to you know what?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 7: So for me, I'm happy for there's some Mustangs. Congratulations

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Speaker 7: to them, and honestly, our fans need a break.

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Speaker 4: You get.

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Speaker 8: All the money, all the money for traveling to all

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Speaker 8: of these national championship player.

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Speaker 5: I mean the weight of college football.

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Speaker 4: Bobby loves this. Bobby could not agree with you.

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Speaker 6: More way the weight of college football man.

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Speaker 4: You know, and I like a lot was told I

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Speaker 5: Kentucky?

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Speaker 4: I mean, hey, look what did I say? It's not

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Speaker 8: It's not just about playing Alabama and Georgia and l

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Speaker 4: Six and six?

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Speaker 2: Can I just let let me speak from the the

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Speaker 4: Now now freshly in the SEC for the first year.

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Speaker 2: And and and and just hating it because I hate

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Here's the thing is that when

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Speaker 2: Take, for instance, Belichick and the Patriots, for you, there's

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Speaker 2: You've got Tom Brady. Congratulations, you got the greatest quarterback

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Speaker 2: remember Dennis Franchiona.

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Speaker 3: Okay, like that. There's a little bit of that, But.

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Speaker 4: We're doing it with Kansas City right now.

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Speaker 5: By the way.

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Speaker 2: When you look that and see that aspect of it,

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Speaker 2: do you think that given how Nick Sable was like, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm tired, I gotta walk away from this is are

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Speaker 2: you ever able to replicate the Saban type of atmosphere

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Speaker 2: with Bill Belichick taking the North Carolina job, are you

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Speaker 2: where Jayalen Milroe talked about I'm allowed to celebrate or

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Speaker 3: I was never able to do that before.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you gotta find a happy balance. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we know this is a different generation, right, but here's

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Speaker 7: my deal. You're probably not gonna see that again. And

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Speaker 7: here's why. Because Saban always talked about process and to

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Speaker 7: have a process that means your veterans are your coach,

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Speaker 7: and right now, who are you gonna lean on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean we had the lowest population of seniors this

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Speaker 5: Am I here for money?

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Speaker 7: And I would tell you Alabama was successful before because

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Speaker 7: run in transfer porter Why would you do that when

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Speaker 8: You know there's another element too, that about right after

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Speaker 8: the Vandy loss where I thought it was interesting that

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Speaker 8: the team, had said, you know, we need to button

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Speaker 8: this up, like we need to stop it.

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Speaker 4: We need to tuck in our shirts.

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Speaker 8: We need to start being on time, and on time

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Speaker 8: means a little bit early for meetings.

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Speaker 4: And things like that.

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Speaker 8: And it just goes to show you that as much

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Speaker 8: talent as good a year that you were just saying,

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Speaker 8: which is true that Alabama had, How how small the

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Speaker 8: margins are? That this reason why Nick Sabans and the

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Speaker 8: Steve Sarkesians and the Kirby Smarts of the world are

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Speaker 8: so maniacal, because it's those little things during the week

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Speaker 8: that all of a sudden you lose to Vandy, You

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Speaker 8: go to Norman and you score three points, and those

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the reality is we should have lost

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Speaker 7: to Georgia. You go back and look at the stats.

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Speaker 7: We were twenty eight to none and second quarter Georgia

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Speaker 4: Had it not been for one of all play another quarter,

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Speaker 4: you do, have we not had that.

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Speaker 5: File star cornerback.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they're reached and made a phenomenal play.

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Speaker 4: Well, I agree.

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Speaker 5: So now what is your What is your school?

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Speaker 3: Texas?

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Speaker 3: My school is the Workforce. But but I grew up

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Speaker 3: a Tea.

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Speaker 2: I grew up no, no, I grew up a Texas fan,

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Speaker 2: though I did not go to Texas on one of.

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Speaker 3: The T shirt Texas.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but but but so Texas actually came from when

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Speaker 2: we first moved back to Dallas.

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Speaker 3: We had lived in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: When I first moved back to Dallas and started watching

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Speaker 2: college football, that was Ricky Williams break. So it was

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Speaker 2: it was more it was like a all right, this

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Speaker 3: So that so that's what I'm picking.

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Speaker 6: And the thing about it, man, we just had one

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Speaker 6: of the nicest round tables of the SEC.

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Speaker 5: I like that because even though I went to Florida

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Speaker 8: C has gone back to He would talk so much

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Speaker 5: Baby yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then one thing I went to a game Texas

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Speaker 5: In Rose Bowl. I was at that game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, But anyway, it was in Pasadena and so

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Speaker 6: and that's the first time I felt the vibes SCC.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm not the only one

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I grew I went to a school in the SEC.

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Speaker 8: I went early November to Baton Rouge to Death Valley

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Speaker 8: for Alabama LSU. And my first thoughts is I got

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Speaker 8: I thought to myself, you think you play in the SEC.

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Speaker 5: Man, Yes, this is nice. One hundred thousand. How many

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Speaker 5: stadiums do we see over one hundred thousand?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the atmosphere, the students, the fans and

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Speaker 7: oh you. By the way, the difference in this year

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Speaker 7: is we used to know that if we could take

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Speaker 7: first half, we could beat them in the second half.

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Speaker 5: What reality now is the skills has even.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about the A couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: We had Morris Claiborne on and Morris was a guy

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Speaker 2: who played at LSU, so he's an SEC guy. And

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Speaker 2: I'm curious if this was the same for you. You get

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Speaker 2: drafted by Dallas in the second round in one and

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Speaker 2: when you got here, do you do you feel like

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Speaker 2: that that big program preparation like an Alabama or LSU

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Speaker 3: They're a little more ready for the moment of Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Did you feel that intensity of like I'm glad I

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Speaker 3: We got a future producer exactly.

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Speaker 2: We got We got Tony Dixon, the former Alabama Christide Safety.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to our first break and then catch

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Speaker 3: Tony, thank you again for getting around with us.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 7: The amazing thing is I remember when they first came out,

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Speaker 5: Can't prepare for that.

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Speaker 5: That's when it made it real.

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Speaker 7: Is man relentless and some of the biggest pressure come

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Speaker 5: You're gonna be on TV, right, so do you want

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Speaker 7: You know, my first year was George taking Darren Woods

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but but will he tried to handle me.

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Speaker 6: He tried to No, I didn't, and I want to apologize.

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Speaker 5: We've been to the super Bowl. It's been a while.

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Speaker 3: Why did you just tell you?

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 8: Because I grew up not being a fan of like

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Speaker 4: That does not happen with every other team. That's why

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Speaker 2: There were lean years for the Lakers, whatever sport you

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Speaker 2: It is interesting how there's a difference between I think,

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Speaker 2: Don't be saying necessarily, this is the expectation, but it's

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Speaker 4: You're falling short, your standard's a lot still not.

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Speaker 2: I think here in Dallas nationally, that's the standard for everybody,

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, naturally the narrative around and wallwaysby you

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Speaker 2: because that's the standard you set for us for so

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Speaker 4: For okay, in that context, I would agree.

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Speaker 3: It happens, sure, absolutely, And.

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Speaker 3: Yes, did you guys, did you guys.

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Speaker 7: Here's a challenge. Here's a challenge, and this is the

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Speaker 7: reality everybody face. When you get to a point where

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Speaker 7: the youngest player on your team doesn't remember the time

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Speaker 7: that you were in the super Bowl. That's where it's

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Speaker 7: challenging because at that point it has to be a Nate.

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Speaker 7: It has to be one of those you know, prime,

452
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Speaker 7: it has to be urban, it has to be somebody

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Speaker 7: old school Emmitt Troy coming in the locker room and

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Speaker 7: talking about what that standard looks like.

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Speaker 5: Nobody have seen it. We have not, They have not

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Speaker 5: seen it.

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Speaker 7: So they have to recreate the new standard.

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Speaker 5: Yes, because you can't lean on the old standards. Now,

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Speaker 5: what's the news?

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Speaker 4: How do you get there?

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Speaker 5: Nate?

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Speaker 8: Because for whatever reason, and we've witnessed this with the

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Speaker 8: Cowboys the last few years they're up in Chicago, they

464
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Speaker 8: are all about the eighty five Bears. That's all they

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Speaker 8: talk about, despite the fact they've been to some NFC

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Speaker 8: title games, they've been to a Super Bowl, so they

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Speaker 8: give it up and down.

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Speaker 4: They're able to get there, they haven't won and all that.

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Speaker 4: How do the Cowboys, who just cannot.

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Speaker 8: Seem to as good as they can be, get to

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Speaker 8: those next levels in the playoffs?

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Speaker 6: To be honest with you, we talked about it with

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Speaker 6: Nick Saban leaving. We talked about it with Bell Belichick leaving,

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Speaker 6: with Jimmy. Jimmy was a part of this through coach Parcels.

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Speaker 6: He talked to Parcels about a whole lot of things,

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Speaker 6: how do I.

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Speaker 5: Win in this league?

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Speaker 6: And fellas whether you want to believe it or not,

479
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Speaker 6: with this new generation, it's called discipline.

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Speaker 5: It's called non stop.

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Speaker 6: The closest place right now to what I see is

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Speaker 6: Detroit forty nine ers had it, but injuries.

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Speaker 5: Has decimated them.

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Speaker 6: When when when everything you do is predicated to going

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Speaker 6: to a super Bowl, your practices are dedicated to going

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Speaker 6: to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: The way you walk and way.

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Speaker 6: You handle yourself on and off the field is predicated

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Speaker 6: to go into a super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: It's a non stop discipline.

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Speaker 6: And when you don't have that discipline, like you said,

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Speaker 6: because it's we.

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Speaker 5: So far removed from a from a super Bowl to

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Speaker 5: the only.

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Speaker 6: Way you get this is how you work, the time

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Speaker 6: you're willing to put in and and and.

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Speaker 5: The players that you are drafted understands that.

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Speaker 6: And so until we get that as a Cowboy players,

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Speaker 6: they don't have that right now.

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Speaker 5: This team is.

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Speaker 6: Young, even the couple of years before when we thought

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Speaker 6: I knew, because you don't, You don't. Your world don't

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Speaker 6: revolve around that. You have to revolve around that. And

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Speaker 6: you know it's my team and I and I love them,

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Speaker 6: but it we don't revolve right now around Super.

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Speaker 2: Bowl one of we're here at the SLBBC Cowboys Crosstock.

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Speaker 3: We got Tony Dixon joining us.

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Speaker 5: Tony.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've asked a couple of different people.

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Speaker 2: That say Nate's talking about you, you were just talking

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Speaker 2: about passing on legacy or standard or whatever else. You

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Speaker 2: would also just reference there that you were practicing behind

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Speaker 2: Darren Woodson when you first got here. And we've talked

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Speaker 2: to a lot of people in recent weeks about, hey,

515
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Speaker 2: Darren's up for the Hall of Fame again, and people

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Speaker 2: have getting tested with We haven't talked to anybody yet

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Speaker 2: who was essentially practicing right behind him understudy learning him.

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Speaker 2: Just talk about for those that don't know. If there's

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Speaker 2: somebody sitting at home right now, listen to this on

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Speaker 2: one O five through the fan or das, Cowboys dot

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Speaker 2: Com or the Cowboy's Radio Network wherever, and they're saying,

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Speaker 2: I didn't see Darren Woodson play very much. Pass on

523
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Speaker 2: your story to them of what kind of a player

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Speaker 2: Darren Woodson.

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Speaker 7: It is the absolute travesty that Darren Woodson is not

526
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Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame. He changed the game for safeties. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: this man's this man. During that era, the best receiver

528
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Speaker 7: was in a slot they did not have to go

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Speaker 7: to a nicol Or don package to do that, Darren

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Speaker 7: Woodson dropped down the slot and covered him. So when

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Speaker 7: I look at that, I feel like, obviously everything that

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Speaker 7: Emmett was going through in terms of the hype people,

533
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Speaker 7: just the other part. The day Emmitt brought the record,

534
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Speaker 7: Darren Woodson brought the tackling record, and we didn't stop

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Speaker 7: the game to recognize Darren woods'on for that. So my

536
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Speaker 7: thing is what part of it, too is we know

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Speaker 7: Darren is one of the most humble men you'll ever meet,

538
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Speaker 7: but there's a there's a fine line between humility and

539
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Speaker 7: not getting your worth, and I think because of his humility,

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Speaker 7: Darren really hadn't got his true value is true worth,

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Speaker 7: and not enough people are standing up and talking about what.

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Speaker 5: He meant to that safety position, because.

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Speaker 7: I will tell you a lot of the people that's

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Speaker 7: been in the Hall of Fame in the last couple

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Speaker 7: of years they got there because they watched Darren Woodson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about it before. Brian brought us

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Speaker 2: who works with us at the VAN. He was in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay in the nineties. He was with Leroy Butler

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Speaker 2: and he's like, I love Leroy Butler. Leroy Butler helped

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Speaker 2: get me a Super Bowl ring. Leroy Butler should not

552
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Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame before Darren Woodson.

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Speaker 3: There's just no way.

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Speaker 2: You can't you can't trust, and that's somebody who whom

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl with him.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna take our

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Speaker 3: second break here.

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Speaker 2: We're talking with Tony Dixon, former Cowboy safety, former Alabama

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Speaker 2: Crimson dot crowd Alabama Crimson tied sec evangelist Tony Dixon.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, I want to talk about the

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Speaker 2: the transition that you guys went through when Parcels arriving.

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Speaker 2: Not just when Parcels arrived, but when the very loud

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Speaker 2: rumors started in the middle of the season about Bill

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Speaker 2: Parcels riding. So we're gonna get Tony Dixon's thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: We also got Nate Newton and Will Chambers with us.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bobby belcau Is the SWBC Cowboys cross talk.

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Speaker 9: Show. Cowbos Don't twas don't tell wars.

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Speaker 6: Uh A lot of times, you know, I tell people

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Speaker 6: I want more from Michael.

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Speaker 5: Parsons than Parsons won't.

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Speaker 6: I think Parsons is a game change in the run

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Speaker 6: game in the.

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Speaker 5: Past, game and the run. I believe it. Now do

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Speaker 5: he believe it?

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Speaker 6: I know Zim is trying to get it from him,

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Speaker 6: because I know Zim, he's trying if he'll let him.

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Speaker 4: I think he believes it. But does he believe it?

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Speaker 5: That's that's the thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, some people graty kids and shove them

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Speaker 6: in the corner. Some people grady kids and take them

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Speaker 6: to the corner.

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Speaker 5: It's a different, it's a different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: One can get you in trouble in us and just

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Speaker 5: make it grows your kid a better.

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Speaker 2: That is h Nate Newton's right there, will Tams beaut

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Speaker 2: We're joined tonight by Tony Dixon, former Cowboys Safe here

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Speaker 2: the SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk. I'm curious you both taking it

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Speaker 2: back a little bit and we're gonna dive into some

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Speaker 2: stuff from the Cincinnati game and some stuff moving.

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Speaker 3: Forward for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: But last topic here that I want to kind of

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Speaker 2: touch on, just from y'all's experiences. You played obviously, you

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Speaker 2: played for Jimmy, but specifically I'm picking Landry. You played

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Speaker 2: for Tom Landry. You then had those couple of years

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Speaker 2: here with Bill Parcells, knowing who they were at that

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Speaker 2: stage of their careers, could you.

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Speaker 3: Have envisioned them.

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Speaker 2: Going down to the college level to run a program

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Speaker 2: the same way that we got in the news today

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Speaker 2: that Bill Belichick's doing with North That's.

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Speaker 8: The best question I've heard in two months of anything media.

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Speaker 4: I honestly, could.

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Speaker 3: You have envisioned that?

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Speaker 2: And do you think they would have figured a way

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Speaker 2: out to have the success? Because football's football.

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Speaker 7: Part of me wants to believe excuse me, because Bill

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Speaker 7: Parcells focused on the statistics of the game, so he

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Speaker 7: taught you, like, you know, what the frequencies were, like

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Speaker 7: tendencies were and you and you learned it now very

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Speaker 7: very much so so in college you didn't talk that

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Speaker 7: we had analytics on the referees. So a part of

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Speaker 7: me wants to believe that if you go down you

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Speaker 7: have that hungry young teenager that they're gonna buy into

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Speaker 7: that program. The other side of me want to believe

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Speaker 7: that Bill Parcells and that or maybe too much for

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Speaker 7: that young individual to deal with.

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Speaker 5: So I'm kind of on the fence on that. What's

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Speaker 5: your thoughts?

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Speaker 6: I believe the same, But coach Landry Man, he would

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Speaker 6: have found a way like I think coach Barcells, like

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Speaker 6: I think Coach Belichick, They're.

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Speaker 5: Gonna find a way.

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Speaker 6: They gonna find a way, man, because they want success.

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Speaker 6: They want success for themselves as well as for these players.

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Speaker 5: I believe they'll find a way.

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Speaker 6: I believe coach Landry will find a way, and I

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Speaker 6: believe Coach Parcells would have. And in this analytics thing,

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Speaker 6: I love the guys that are sitting back behind the

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Speaker 6: scenes making all that money with analytics, but the great

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Speaker 6: coach has been doing that fail.

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Speaker 2: Have the lines been blurred so much between college and pros?

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Speaker 2: Do you think in terms of just very public money

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Speaker 2: has been introduced to the college level with essentially contracts

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Speaker 2: that exist. Matt Rult Nebraska talking about how much it

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Speaker 2: costs basically to go acquire a quarterback in the portal,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like free agency at times. You've got, you know,

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Speaker 2: blending of offensive concepts between NFL and college and different

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Speaker 2: things like that. And it's the stuff that Saban talked

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Speaker 2: about where he was like I have to walk away.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the lines have just been blurred so

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Speaker 2: much that somebody like Belichick, or rather NFL coaches may

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Speaker 2: just say, all right, well, like this is familiar enough

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Speaker 2: to what I'm already doing at the NFL level. I'm

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Speaker 2: it's not the same challenge it would have been twenty

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Speaker 2: years ago.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you think you bring Billichick op and what

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Speaker 7: made him so great as a person sitting out watching

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Speaker 7: and watching teams and talking to some of the players

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Speaker 7: on his team. Remember what those players did. They took

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Speaker 7: pay cuts. They took pay cuts because they to your point,

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Speaker 7: they had a bigger vision, yes, and because of that

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Speaker 7: they locked into it. The challenge is if you don't

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Speaker 7: have that vision as a team. If if I want

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Speaker 7: all this money, but I'm not gonna do everything I

656
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Speaker 7: can to support Nate, that's a problem. And so I

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Speaker 7: think Bill Belichick, because of that mentality, will be great.

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Speaker 5: I do too. You gotta understand.

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Speaker 6: Every school don't have the same budget as Bama, Southern

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Speaker 6: cal Michigan, Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: Dion told me that straight up. He said, we don't

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Speaker 5: have that budget, So we.

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Speaker 6: Still have to go out and find kids that fit

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Speaker 6: into our program, into our system.

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Speaker 5: I still have to coach these kids.

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Speaker 6: It's still gonna come down to what are you as

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Speaker 6: a parent and a kid a young man willing to

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Speaker 6: sacrifice a little bit and if you're not willing to sacrifice,

669
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Speaker 6: you going to Bama sitting on the bench. You may

670
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 6: make five hundred thousand this year because they wanted you,

671
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 6: but if you can't crack their lineup, they taking it

672
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 6: next year. You won't see the Yeah, and you're gonna

673
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 6: be begging somebody. So it's still gonna come down to

674
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 6: do you having the fire and your and your gut

675
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 6: to game. It's still gonna come down to that.

676
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 5: But are people focus on development right now though? No?

677
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 6: No, no, no, And that is what the college coaches

678
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 6: are facing. And that's why we sold see so many

679
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 6: bad offensive linemen.

680
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, we we this league.

681
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 6: I'm begging parents, if your kid is six foot three,

682
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 6: two hundred and eighty five pounds, get him on the ropes,

683
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 6: get him on the get it because he can make a.

684
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 5: Boatload of money in the NFL and in college.

685
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 4: Who are the first round draft picks?

686
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 8: We know the best first round draft picks are the

687
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 8: ones that every team is looking for. Are looking for

688
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 8: offensive tackles and edge rushers. Yes, that should be the focus.

689
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 8: I mean, I agree to a point of what you're

690
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 8: saying there. I mean I think it's also because so

691
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 8: many of the college offenses are all from the spread,

692
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 8: so not many of them are big enough to They're

693
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 8: more speed guys, and that makes it difficult to transition.

694
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Speaker 5: I just believe this right here.

695
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 6: It still comes down what separates Detroit Besides all the

696
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 6: bad years of losing and getting a good team. Now

697
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 6: you brought a coach in there, and the owner really

698
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 6: let him decide his players, whip the up with the gym,

699
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 6: and he got the type of guys he want. Now

700
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 6: the Cowboys, and I don't know how mister Jones them

701
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 6: do it in the war room, but you really have

702
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: to make a concerted effort to get the guys with

703
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 6: the right attitudes. You gotta go ask the equipment guy

704
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 6: at Nebraska, Hey, man, is this Does he love the game?

705
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 5: Do y'all have to beg him to work out?

706
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 6: Do y'all have how many times have you been late

707
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 6: to practice? This stuff is gonna be big. Yeah, everybody's

708
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 6: getting paid, bro.

709
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Speaker 3: Let's go ahead.

710
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Speaker 2: Let's take our final break of the evening. This is

711
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: the SBC Cowboys Cross Talk. Got Will Chambers here, Nate Newton.

712
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: Our guest tonight is Tony Dixon. I'm Bobby Belt. When

713
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: we come back, we're gonna talk a little bit about

714
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: this game that occurred over on Monday between the Cowboys

715
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: and the Bengals. Tough loss for Dallas. And also one

716
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: more question I want you guys to think of while

717
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: we're hearing break. As we were just talking about different

718
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: coaches things like that. You mentioned Dion Sanders, who has

719
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: gone on to become a successful coach in Colorado. I'm

720
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: curious if there was a guy that you guys played

721
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: with on the Cowboys that you always thought he's going

722
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: to be a coach when that didn't for whatever reason,

723
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: but you always thought, Man, I'm surprised he didn't go

724
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: down that path. So we're gonna get those thoughts when

725
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Speaker 2: we come back here on the SLWBC Cowboys.

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734
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Speaker 2: five to the Fan, joined by my teammate from the Fan,

735
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Speaker 2: Will Chambers. We've got the six time Pro bowler, three

736
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: time Super Bowl champion Nate Newton with us, and our

737
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Speaker 2: guest tonight is as we've turned to the SEC evangelist

738
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Speaker 2: and the former second Cowboys former Cowboys at Tony Dixon

739
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: joining us. I asked you guys before we went to break, Uh, Natan, Tony,

740
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: if there was a guy during your time playing with

741
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: the Cowboys that you were like, man, I was certain

742
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: he if he wanted to, He didn't do it, but

743
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: if he wanted to, he would have been just a

744
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: fantastic coach.

745
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 5: You know.

746
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 6: Uh, my guys know, with my guys, the only one

747
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 6: I could see doing it and I knew he wanted

748
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 6: to do it, that was Troy.

749
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. Anybody else I just didn't see it.

750
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 6: When when Prime when he started with the truth in

751
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 6: South Dallas, I just I just look at him and

752
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 6: started laughing, like, man, what are you doing.

753
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 4: We've all seen the clip where Troy was angry to

754
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: have to do it as a player.

755
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I.

756
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 6: Know he had passion. I know you have to have

757
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 6: you have to have passion to for to direct. And

758
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 6: that's grown men, our children.

759
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 5: Because you don't have a passion, you get out of

760
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 5: this thing so quick. You know, you gotta have a passion.

761
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 5: I told me, you want to coach? What y'all want

762
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 5: to deal with? Three me.

763
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: So many hours about you.

764
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Speaker 7: You know, I hate to be like I don't have

765
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 7: any anything else because I would tell you everybody, I thought,

766
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 7: we're gonna.

767
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Speaker 5: Coach our coaching.

768
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 7: Yes, Dan Campbell, yes, all the others up to even

769
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 7: Jason Whitten. You know we we already know he's coming up.

770
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 7: So I those individuals already knew was gonna coach Keith

771
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 7: Davis as a coach. Mario edw was as a coach.

772
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 7: Is so many that out there coaching right now, And

773
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 7: I just I knew that was gonna happen.

774
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: Boy, you say whenever you say Mario Edwards, by the way,

775
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: that's what makes me as as relatively young. That's what

776
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: makes me feel old is Mario Edward's son almost being

777
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: at retirement age at this point. They throw me off

778
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: a little bit, all right, guys, get used to that.

779
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Let's talk about the Bengals game.

780
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: Back on my day I thought there was there was

781
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 2: so much to like about the game from a defensive perspective,

782
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: Rico Dwdle what was fantastic And and the run blocking

783
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: is really kind of becoming cohesive, even when Cooper bb

784
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 2: went out and they had to shift rock hopping inside Nate.

785
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: It feels like things are moving towards the direction that

786
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: you've been clamoring for for several weeks, which is, let's

787
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: get a running him savage, so let's play physical football.

788
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: Let's you know, settle the Stefens down. Zimmer's figuring out

789
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: some different ways to do some things. How much do

790
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: you think the brock Hoffman coming into the lineup and

791
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: just playing with that violence and edge that he does,

792
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: how much do you think that's that's helped lift the

793
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: right gad.

794
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Speaker 6: It's just a good thing when you start like I say,

795
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 6: you know, I told people sometime a less talented guy,

796
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 6: as long as he above average, you know, and he's

797
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 6: not your key player, he can make a difference. And

798
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 6: Brock has made a difference. TJ bass Adoga, who I

799
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 6: dogged out. Y'all know how bad I dog is man.

800
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 6: He's come in and been consistent. I dogged him out

801
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 6: man apologies, you know, So they're being consistent.

802
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 5: The teams that.

803
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 6: We're playing has not been great, so it's giving him

804
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 6: a chance to build momentum and get hyped and fan

805
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 6: Remember this, We don't be joking when we say it's

806
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 6: one or two plays that can change a game, right,

807
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 6: remember that, No ever forget that in a season.

808
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Tony.

809
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: When when you look at you know, Mike Zimmer, the

810
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: the reconnect here coming back after uh oh five I

811
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: think was his last year here, and and and being

812
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: gone for almost twenty years coming back, and there was

813
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: a lot of discussion about, you know, oh, is is

814
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Zimer gonna be too prickly of a personality for this

815
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: this new age NFL player, And all we're hearing is

816
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: a lot of consistent feedback and praise from players of like, No,

817
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: I love Zim. I mean I think people anticipated maybe

818
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: there'd be some Micah and Mike Zimmer friction.

819
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: They they seem to get along really well.

820
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: Mikeah has nothing but great things to say about him,

821
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: and his defense finally seems to kind of be settling

822
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: into place. Is that something that when you watch games

823
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: this year, you were like, they're gonna turn it around.

824
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: Regardless of the personnel, Zim's gonna figure out a way

825
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: to mix and match this and make something work.

826
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

827
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 7: One thing about I've told people about Mike Zimmer is

828
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 7: that one thing I can say is every game we

829
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 7: went into we were prepared. Every single game we went into,

830
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 7: we were prepared, and we were playing for something, We

831
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 7: were playing for each other. We knew that we had

832
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 7: to change the concept of the game. Go get the turnover, stop,

833
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 7: you know, control third downs, get off the field. We

834
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 7: knew those things and that's what Zimmer preaches every day.

835
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 7: So yes, initially the season, I was like, oh boy,

836
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 7: are they are they taking to him? And then I

837
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 7: finally started seeing the turnaround right and and honestly, I

838
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 7: think that Michael Parson's injury helped the defense more than

839
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 7: anything really.

840
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 5: Because I think it created depth.

841
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 7: And I think as a young player, you always gonna

842
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 7: lean on the person you know gonna make the play.

843
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 7: When he's not there. Guess what, now you're looking around like,

844
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 7: who's gonna step up?

845
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: No, it's and that's a really good point there. I

846
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: think it's it's something where you and you saw different

847
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: guys step up.

848
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 9: You know.

849
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: It couldn't ask anything more of the defense from Monday.

850
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: Night, and I think what you're seeing is a defense

851
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 2: that what you saw the first half of the season

852
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: was Mike Zimmer going, who are my players? Let me

853
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: figure out what strengths and weaknesses are. There's a little

854
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: bit of mixing a matching. Okay, I can't do this

855
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 2: with this guy. I can do this here figuring out Okay,

856
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: this guy, I want somebody who's maybe moving carl Loss

857
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: and getting inserted into the lineup, more, Carlos Watkins being acquired,

858
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: getting put in there more. Mazie Smith's starting to come

859
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: around play a little bit. One of the guys who

860
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: had really been a consistent player for them, and it

861
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: clearly rattled a lot of the team on Monday night

862
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: was to Marvin Overshown and he goes down with that

863
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: devastating injury. And he's somebody who just from top to bottom,

864
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: everybody in the organization just has great things to say

865
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: about the Marvin Overshown. Eric Kendricks was in the locker

866
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: after and he got really emotional and he had talked

867
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: about you know, even as a veteran, he's like, there's

868
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: something just refreshing and gives you some juice when you

869
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: see a kid like the Marvin Overstone come in and

870
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: just love this and smile on his face and just

871
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: happy to be in the NFL and happy to be

872
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: part of this team. How significant of a because people

873
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times, just for fans, they

874
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 2: see injury off the field game and those guys don't

875
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: move on like that, especially when it's somebody that How

876
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: how big of a factor can that be and how

877
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: it can weigh on a team When you have a

878
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: player go down with a devastating injury like.

879
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 7: That, well, I think you have to add to it

880
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 7: when when you're not meeting the expectations that you set

881
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 7: beginning of the year. So I think you have to

882
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 7: put those together. Because if the Cowboys were at the

883
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 7: expectations they have beginning of the season, I don't think

884
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 7: it would be as traumatic, right, But because they're not

885
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 7: there now, that's another leader that we're seeing carted off

886
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Speaker 7: or walking off or or or going through Trump. So

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Speaker 7: I think for that standpoint, because of it's not where

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Speaker 7: we want to be, That's what the challenge is this year.

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Speaker 5: Man. I just all I can do is just pray

890
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Speaker 5: for him, man, because I've.

891
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Speaker 6: Seen guys make it back, but what he's gonna go

892
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Speaker 6: through is gonna be a If he come back by

893
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 6: the end of the next year, it's still too soon.

894
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Speaker 5: He should take a year off, if you know that.

895
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Speaker 5: I'm not knowing blood, No, no.

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy said. Mike McCarthy himself said it may not

897
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Speaker 2: be until twenty twenty six. He doesn't know yet. I mean,

898
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Speaker 2: this is a you tear. It's a very different injury.

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Speaker 3: But I mean we've seen this injury and the way

900
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Speaker 3: he plays, and that's what he is, you know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's the energy and speed and in order

902
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Speaker 8: to have that, you know, that type of injury to

903
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Speaker 8: your knee that, as Nate said, you pray for him

904
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Speaker 8: and then you hope that it there's enough time for

905
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Speaker 8: it to come back to be to get him back

906
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Speaker 8: to something like that because especially because that is what

907
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Speaker 8: he is.

908
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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, we can take a look at, you know,

909
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: two different things recently. Guys were emotional in the locker

910
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: room too, when when the Zach Martin injury news was

911
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Speaker 2: he's getting surgery and that the season's over. I'm curious

912
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Speaker 2: that when we talk about culture and trying to build

913
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Speaker 2: the culture here and do different things. When you see

914
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Speaker 2: Zach Martin go out and brock Hoffin comes in and

915
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: does answer the call. Like you said, when you're it's

916
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Speaker 2: easy to lean on somebody, but brock Coffin answers the call.

917
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Speaker 3: Terrence Steel Cooper bb dance the call.

918
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Speaker 2: When to Marvin Overshewing goes out and lee if I

919
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Speaker 2: has to come in as a rookie and immediately gets

920
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: two sacks in the final quarter and is able to

921
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Speaker 2: focus and lock in and elevate his play.

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Speaker 3: Are those signs for both of you guys here, Nate

923
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Speaker 3: Antartium curious?

924
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Speaker 2: Are those signs to you guys that hey, those are

925
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Speaker 2: the clues of maybe cultures improving among the players and

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Speaker 2: you're starting to get a little bit of that growth

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Speaker 2: that you want.

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Speaker 7: I think goes back to what we were saying earlier

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Speaker 7: with Mike Zimmer It takes a while to plant those

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Speaker 7: seasons for those season start development, and I think right

931
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Speaker 7: now people are buying into and they're believing, like, Okay, yeah,

932
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Speaker 7: it's a difference, right because we came from dan Quinn

933
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 7: and Sussists and things of that nature, and he came in.

934
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Speaker 7: People are like, I don't know, but I think now

935
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 7: they've warmed up to him and they see and the

936
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Speaker 7: proof is int're putting at this point as they say.

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Speaker 6: You know one thing that Zim has that all great

938
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Speaker 6: coaches has. They can look at your eyes and say,

939
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Speaker 6: do your job. If you do your job and he

940
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Speaker 6: do his job and I do my job, we fit

941
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Speaker 6: this thing together. Were hard to beat. And that's what

942
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 6: everybody's doing now. Everybody's doing their job, man a defensively.

943
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Speaker 5: You see it.

944
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 6: You saw it starting four games ago. Everybody's getting better

945
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Speaker 6: at their job.

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Speaker 3: Is that you mentioned it there?

947
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Speaker 2: Charles mentioned last week he used the phrasees like eleven

948
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Speaker 2: moving as one yes. And the challenge is that is

949
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Speaker 2: that the biggest challenge that you guys think exists in

950
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Speaker 2: NFL culture is just getting fifty three guys to the

951
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Speaker 2: cohesion issue just in general, outside of obviously injuries and

952
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Speaker 2: other factors. Is that the biggest I guess, social goal

953
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Speaker 2: or psychological goal that exists for a team.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you're not a team until you can do

955
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Speaker 7: it yes, period, period, right because if not, you're a

956
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 7: bunch of chiefs run around. Everybody has self as interests,

957
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Speaker 7: like when you can break it down and actually create

958
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Speaker 7: that cohesion of a team.

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Speaker 5: It's a game changer.

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Speaker 6: When you can go six times fourth on fourth down,

961
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Speaker 6: you gotta have fifty three guys moving together. Yeah, all right, now,

962
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Speaker 6: the rest of the world can tell you how stupid is,

963
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Speaker 6: how crazy is, and.

964
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Speaker 5: I hope you don't do it in the playoffs. But

965
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Speaker 5: he got fifty three guys.

966
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Speaker 2: Moving in the right that rix and they are going

967
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Speaker 2: to be moving in the direction of Charlotte, North Carolina

968
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Speaker 2: this weekend for a a panther scene that's playing a

969
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: lot better lately.

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young really starting to put it together.

971
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Speaker 2: I'm so happy he just yeah, it took a little

972
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Speaker 2: bit because it came from the SEC, so I think

973
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Speaker 2: that was his problem about it.

974
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Speaker 3: No, he's been fantastic. It's been great to see the

975
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Speaker 3: last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: Nate.

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Speaker 2: I guess in the last couple of seconds, we don't

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Speaker 2: need to guess where you're religions doubt and never got

979
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Speaker 2: that's what we thought. Tony Dixon, thank you.

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Speaker 3: So much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely fantastic for Tony Dixon, Nate Newton, Will Chambers, I'm

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Speaker 2: Bobby Belt. This has been the STLBBC Cowist Cross Talk.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you guys again next week, Evangelist.

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