1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about the free parties, but I 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: do know right, Thank you nah, because you're about to 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: get crazy, go ahead and say it. That's how Diddy 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: parties taught, right, I'm just saying that time going. I 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: know you about to say some slip ship. Yeah, that's 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: how it gets you to take the time off to 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: your shit around. 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, Hustle, pe Price, 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: one slice got the pro geist, swap all my life, 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: iop be grinding all my life, All my life, grinding 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: all my life, sacrifice, Hustle, paed Price, one Slice got 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: the bronc Geist the swap all my life, Pop be 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: grinding all my life. 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 3: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shah. I am 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: your hole Sheddon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of Club Shah, 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: and today we're at the brand new Villa sixty six 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: at Resource World in Las Vegas. This says, a spectacular 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: two bedroom entertainment villa on the sixty sixth floor with 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: a stunning view of the strip. This is deserved for 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: invited guests only, which I am. I'll be staying here tonight. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: The guy that's stopping buy for conversation and the drink 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: today is one of the most beloved comedians in the industry. 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: He's had significant impact on the entertainment industry. He was 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 3: on what two of the greatest television shows in history, 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: The Chappelle Show and The Wire. He was honored also 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: with the Red Fox Award. He's a critically claimed actor, 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: a versatile performer, season stand up comedian, the host, the writer. 28 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: For over thirty years, he. 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: Tours the world to sold out audiences everywhere, A fan favorite, 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: a proud father, a larger than life personality. Here he is, 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, mister Donnielle Robin. 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that introduction, but you missed one thing. 33 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: What I miss R and B Singer. 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: Sonthing's got a hold on me eighty hand. I don't 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: know myself. He ain't need more. And that's not the 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: drink speaking, that's just me. 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ladies and gentlem Mister Teddy drowns. 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: It's ironicda. He's one of my favorite artists right now. 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: And no black people's swearing. I love Teddy's Sondy's unbelievable. 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: He's good guy too, and he swims. He swims in 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: the milk. You know what that means right, I don't 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: know them. You know what bunny hopping is, yeah, I 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: know that is well, it's the opposite of the bunny hoppings. Oh, 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: the white guy dates of black chick. He swims in 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: the milk, which would be such a disapproval to doctor Umar, 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: but I put it on. I'm just saying. So. Some 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: people don't appreciate love and all flavors. They used to 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: call me a basketing rawlings because I dipped in different 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: flavors and I support the happiness. I supported happiness. That's 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: what that said. That's what people don't like having like you. 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: I like who like me? 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: There you go, there it is, thanks for stopping, but 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: damn bought them bunny. Sometimes I'm just I'm just saying, Lord, 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: have mercy. I want you silent. They don't talk. A lot. 55 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: Does not approve of this. 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: Yes you do, Yes, you do. Yes, you don't try 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: to get it. Let's just say, I can get me cares. 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: If you ain't cares about now, you won't get cares 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: all right. 60 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Certain people, when you create, and this is the real stuff, 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: when you create your own lane, you're doing it on 62 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: your own term, so you are uncancellable. And people always 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: ask that question. You think somebody gonna cancer? People say 64 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: to me, sometimes you think you get canceled. I like, 65 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: first off, I'm not connected with a major network. I'm 66 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: not connected with no corporate sponsors. So my only boss 67 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: is the people that work hard, pay to pay the money, 68 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: come seeing you, and they can't cancel for that. 69 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: Well, I do have. I am on television. I work 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: for the guy that got the ears. I try to 71 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: want to keep that look. 72 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Gig. I spoke on me. I didn't speak on you, 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: and you said that your face looked like you know 74 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: what he speaks to himself. 75 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: I did not approve the message that mister Rawlings delivered earlier. 76 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Okay, all I'm just said, be happy, Ron, 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: thanks for stopping by. 78 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: My mother. I talked to my mother. I said, I'm 79 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: doing Shanny show. She said, well, don't get crazy, and 80 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: she told me don't drink the yat. But I'm in 81 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: a profession right now where I don't have any disciplines. 82 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: So to my mother, you'll have to get over. Should 83 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: be all right. I love you, mom. It's a holiday 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: to see he's a two b tlly. 85 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: Everything that you've done in the industry and continue success. Brother, 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: thanks for stopping by. 87 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: It, thank you for having me. And oh my mother 88 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: might have been right. That is smooth though. You got 89 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: the fancy sisters too. Yeah, that's the next level. Then 90 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: we go see you home. We're gonna send you a 91 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: couple of bottles with you. Yeah. I saw With's Cleveland 92 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: the other day. You can send me home with something 93 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: else too. I'm just saying I didn't get I didn't 94 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: keep them people upstairs. He didn't keep anything. 95 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: I didn't. 96 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: I was like this, I said, Oh, I'm coming back 97 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: the week after. I say, it's still gonna be some 98 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: remnants of it. You you you partake what I just 99 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: want to say this all of courses could be politically 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: you mean partaking. Do I get hide? 101 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: Yes? 102 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? Do I smoke white? Do I smoke it fatty? 103 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: In some cases I do? You do and I don't. 104 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: But the thing is, I'm not like some people like 105 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: they smoke just to get lipped. I like it. And 106 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: then even my preference is like hybrid's heavy. You're on 107 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: the sativa side because of like stuff that make me 108 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: feel creative or make me want to write, But I 109 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: don't like to like smoke a joint, just lay on 110 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: a g. 111 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, based out and so you partake. No, I don't, Damn, 112 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: it's gonna be chess. It's gonna be chess. 113 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: Are you from the d m B. Yes, quake from 114 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: the d m B. Yes? 115 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: Uh, Martin Lawrence wonder Side Shale, Yes, Tommy Davison. 116 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 4: What is in the water? What in the salt? 117 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: How you get all these guys from what that little 118 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: one central location? 119 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: I think you have that in different cities. Atlanta's is 120 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: a good market. Uh Uh, Chicago is a good market. 121 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan has made Austin a good market. But I 122 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: think that uh that cruel people. You missed a couple 123 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: of people good friend of my mentor fat doctor. It's 124 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: just something about the people that we really believed in 125 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: being good stand ups and we learned from like Craftsman. 126 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now today, You know the 127 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: comedy is going to a way where people go up 128 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: there and ask like crowd work quest and everything. I 129 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: don't think that that's the best form of stand up, 130 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: but it's getting paid. And we was coming up. We 131 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: came up, We came up behind Martinus, Tommy Davidson. So 132 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: We used to go to those shows. We wanted to 133 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: be good, so we used to always sit in the 134 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: back and study the young commons. To day, they don't 135 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: do that. We used to sit in the back and 136 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: study and watch what makes this got dope? What is 137 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: he working on? How much time does he have? Is 138 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: he good at some of the crowd work? Is he 139 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: a good good storyteller? So when you have people like 140 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: that that you're coming behind, you have no choice but 141 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: to be a good comic because you're coming from coming 142 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: behind some of the best people to do it. And 143 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: everybody every and it's the funny thing you said, everybody 144 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: that you now on the list is still actively correct 145 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: doing it. And we're talking like guys have years careers 146 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: of twenty five, thirty forty years, still relevant and still 147 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: making people laugh. 148 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: I've noticed in correct me if I'm wrong. 149 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 3: I noticed a lot of the young and up and 150 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: coming comedians they're like, lean heavily on the skins. If 151 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: the older guys didn't really do a whole lot of skits. 152 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: You got up there with a microphone, you had a stool, 153 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: and you told joke, You walk the room, you appeal 154 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: to the crowd. Do you notice the difference in how 155 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: stand up is being I know. 156 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: There's a difference, but I will say it's evolving. The 157 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: reason why it was like that we didn't have access 158 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: to what the kids have today to blow up. I 159 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: had a conversation with a young female comic, maybe like 160 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: seven years ago. She said, I'm a comedian. I was like, 161 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: let me see some of your stuff, and she went 162 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: to YouTube. She said, well, I do these skits and 163 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: I said, that's not being a comedian. She said, yes 164 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: it is. I said, no, it's not. But then she 165 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: broke open the Webster Webster dictionary definition one who entertains 166 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: a crowd with humor. So when I started, it wasn't 167 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 1: to sketch up. So when you said comedian, you only 168 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: associate it with stand up. Now you have to telling jokes. 169 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: But now it's a whole different thing. The only thing 170 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: the thing about it is I'm like a real artist 171 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: to this. I believe in it. And you see some 172 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: of the younger guys that get on real real quick, 173 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: and you're like, well I liked them doing that skits, 174 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: but not doing a stand up. I just wish that 175 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: some of them just would respect the ard enough to 176 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: take it a little bit more serious and want to 177 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: be a craftsman of it. But when I when I 178 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: first started, if you wanted to get pussy, if you 179 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: wanted to give money, and you wanted to give fame, 180 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: you had to be good first. You had to be 181 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: good before the money came. You had to be good 182 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: before the girls came. You had to be good before 183 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: the fame came. But now you got somebody can go 184 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: viral real quick. Don't have that skill set. So how 185 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: do you tell a young a younger comic, you know 186 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: what you need to work on this? And when he 187 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: looked at his YouTube money and it's like this, I 188 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: just made three hundred thousand this a week. I don't 189 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: care about being good right now. I care about getting 190 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: this money. But then you have some people that break 191 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: away from it, that take take the tools of being 192 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: to do this stuf on the internet and also work 193 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: on being being good stand ups too. 194 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 3: But let me ask you this, when your skit driven, 195 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: is that sustainable? Because I mean, now you can see 196 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: some of the guys, some of you guys. Also, you 197 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: know you came up in the stand up game where 198 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: you told joke you worked the room, but you could 199 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: also do skits. But do you you believe if you 200 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,479 Speaker 3: start with skits first, is that sustainable? 201 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: It's it's sustainable because you're gonna get the money fast. 202 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, what are most 203 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: people doing it for the cash? You don't have to 204 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: do skits for ten or fifteen years. You got some 205 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: of these guys to get a lick for two years 206 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: and if they invest their money right, do the right thing. 207 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: They good. But the funny thing when I first started, 208 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: I started as a stand up and then I realized 209 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: that a lot of the jokes that I was doing 210 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: was three dimensional. They was like characters. They had storylines. So, 211 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about maybe like thirty years ago. So 212 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: I said, what I want to do is take my 213 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: jokes make and make them characters. Right, Okay, Yes, I 214 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: had a sketch group years ago called Secret Society. Red 215 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: Grant was in that sketch group. Yeah, I know, I know, 216 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: And he told me everybody knew Shannon came to college. 217 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: You only had two shirts and two pairs of players. 218 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: That's wh That's what I'm saying. And then he said 219 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: he's also said back then, that's when he used to 220 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: watch you wear his watch to tail time. But the 221 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: different ball came down. Oh Joe, Oh Joe, I'll tell 222 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: you the nice add a nice fake code. Yeah, I know, 223 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: I know you and you rocked out. You made me feel, 224 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, smoke. What was the question again? 225 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: With skits and I had it. 226 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: I had schedule with me, Red Grant was Mike Epps. 227 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: It was just got Rich Paralls. It was a whole 228 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: bunch of us and we was doing sketch back then. 229 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: We was ahead of the game before the Chappelle Show 230 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: even existed. I had to looking. I looked into the future. 231 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'm gonna bring this super 232 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: group together. It was like twelve of us, and I 233 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: knew the group wasn't gonna last long because anytime you 234 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: got twelve different personalities, it's always gonna change a lot. 235 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: It's always gonna change. But what I realized it almost 236 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: I felt like it was like wu tang of sketch. 237 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: I was like, I knew we wasn't gonna all stay together. 238 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: I knew that we had people that kind of were 239 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: stronger on the on the producer side, stronger on the 240 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: righting side, and the actors. In fact, my manager at 241 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: the time, she said Donell, I think the group is 242 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: about to fall apart, and I was like, it's designed 243 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: to fall apart. But if it wasn't for us to 244 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: come to her like this, we wouldn't have had the 245 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: platform for people to see what to do. But you 246 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: can sustain a career with just doing sketches because people 247 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: are coming out just for that. Not in a million 248 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: years when I thought somebody could make millions of dollars 249 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: intour theaters just sitting on the stage having a podcast 250 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: of talking. So comedy the way it's perceived and how 251 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: you can make it work for you, it's evolved where 252 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: it's so many different lanes open now. 253 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: When I think of comedic comics in the past compared 254 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 3: to the day's comics, you guys, they had a very 255 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 3: seedy past. They had a very like you look at 256 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: prior and you hear Miss pat tell her story and 257 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: she's almost like an old school comic. The heartbreak and 258 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: the disappointment that she's had and what a comic is 259 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: able to do. They're really able to take true events 260 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: and make them money, and that's how they're able to 261 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,239 Speaker 3: get over the trauma. 262 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 4: And the hurt and the pain that they're dealing with. 263 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: Do you notice that that the comics today are a 264 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: lot different their past past a path You're a lot 265 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 3: different than you guys. 266 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: To get there. Yet I think that I don't want 267 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: to say it's easier, but you have different avenues. When 268 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: I came up first off, on the stand up side, 269 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: it was almost impossible to be seen as a black 270 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: comic because you only had a couple of net where 271 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: you had to David let him show Johnny Carson. I' 272 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: talking about way back in the day. Yeah, And then 273 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: if you look at the list of comics they do 274 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: that it was all white comics. You might have won 275 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: black comic every couple of years. That's why it was 276 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: a good thing that Deaf Comedy Jam came because there 277 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: was a group of comics. It was a chilling circuit. 278 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: It was underground, but they weren't They weren't being seen. 279 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: But I think that now your phone, man, I tell anybody, 280 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: your phone can just blow you up. And everybody in 281 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: this business that make excuses. But at the end of 282 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: the day, you can have a little bit of talent, 283 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: but if you got the right work ethics, you could 284 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: make it happen for yourself. When I started ABC, CBS 285 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: and NBC, HBO would give us special every two years 286 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: by how many people got an opportunity. That so the 287 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: people that sit back and complain about what they can't do. 288 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: So my dad told me a long time ago, you 289 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: got two excuses, a good excuse and a bad excuse. 290 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: And the end of the day, your success is dependent 291 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: on how hard you work and you can get it. 292 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: It's too many examples that get it with the right 293 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: work at us. 294 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: Would you consider DC the funniest city? You mentioned New 295 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: York you mentioned, but when you look at per capital, 296 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: you look at the DMV and how small it is 297 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 3: compared to a Chicago, compared to. 298 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 4: A New York in some of these other major cities. 299 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: Everybody got their bosses, everybody got these people. But I 300 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: think pound for pound, the pound for pound, DC is 301 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: one of the best cities that's had comics that not 302 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: just got high for a minute, being able to sustain 303 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: theirself in this business. And a lot of people can 304 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: make arguments what else Chicago. It's a lot of good 305 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: comments that come out of there. Well, you talk about 306 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: the people that's been on the small screen, the big 307 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: screen and has success just touring. I think, hands down, 308 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: DC is one of the best, one of the best series. 309 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: We look at Martin Been on television and in the movies. 310 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: You look at Dave Chappell television and movie, Tommy Davison 311 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: television and movies, Wanda Sykes television and movie. Down then 312 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: when you got into this, because you see the transition, 313 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: you see you see Richard Pryce was a stand up 314 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: did television? 315 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy stand up? Did television? 316 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: Is that the natural progression does does most? I can't 317 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: say all, Kevin Hart can't say all. There's no such 318 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: thing as all in every but do. A lot of 319 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: comedians get into stand up with the hopes and dreams 320 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: aspirations of doing television. 321 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: I think a lot of them that's the ultimate goal. 322 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: But I also think that at the end of the day, 323 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: and I look at my career, you know, whether I 324 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: do another film project, we'll do another television project. I've 325 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: at least positioned myself where I can put my name 326 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: on the marquee and make some good money for the 327 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: rest of my life. You know. I think that that's 328 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: an evolution for some people, but not all people, and 329 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: some people it was like the stand up was just 330 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: the platform and the setup to be an actor. Chris Tucker. 331 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: When Chris Tucker first started, everybody knew when Chris Tucker 332 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: first started, he probably had ten minutes of fire set, 333 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But he But when you 334 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: when you saw Chris Tucker performed depth jam when he 335 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: came out, just pissed off. Man, I'm so broke. If 336 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: it tried me and just be practiced. You knew you 337 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: wasn't just looking at a stand up, You was looking 338 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: at a movie star, you know what I'm saying. He 339 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: was one of those guys. And Martin Lawrence is a 340 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: great stand up. But when you look at Martin Lawns, 341 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: you can see him in a television show. You could 342 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: you could see him in a in a in a movie. 343 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: But for everybody, it doesn't work out like that. Everybody 344 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: have Some people don't care to be film TV. They 345 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: just want to be able to make an honest living 346 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: doing something they love. And how many professions, How many 347 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: people get an opportunity to actually call their own shots. 348 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: They are their own boss, do what they want to 349 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: do and make good living. Not too many, right, And 350 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: it's not if you even if you look at the era, 351 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: the death Jam area, the era of all the comedians 352 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: with the nicknames and everything. I would say out of 353 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: everybody before my death Jam, it's probably five or ten 354 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: percent of those people that are actively working this. People 355 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: will still go pay a mnket price to go. 356 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: See NFL playoffs. We're talking about NFL playoffs. 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The Corner was before The Wire, 394 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: and my relationship with The Wire was I played Bread 395 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: on The Corner heroin addict on that show. And David Simon, 396 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: if you watch any show that he's producer, that he's 397 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: producer or he's written, he is really loyal to people 398 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: that worked with him before. So that kind of gave 399 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: me a heads up on the opportunity to be on 400 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: the Wire. But the crazy thing about The Wire was 401 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: the role of Omar. It came down to me and 402 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: Michael on that role of Omar. Robert Colesbury, one of 403 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: the executive producers of The Wire who's not there anymore. 404 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: When I came on set, he said, you know, we 405 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: had you heavily favored to play the role of Omar. 406 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: I had no idea that he said, but this character 407 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: day the day day price, we thought there was gonna 408 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: be something special. Want to save you for this role. 409 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: And if you really follow a Whire, you noticed a 410 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: lot of people say first season was all about the towers, 411 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: a swing of bear as elbow, you know, wood and 412 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: all those guys. The second season, it made a twist. 413 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: It went from the Towers to the docks about being 414 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: at the shipyard, and that was because the Baltimore Tourism 415 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Board was complaining that every time, and they have a 416 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: show that in Baltimore's always a picture that's being a 417 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: CD drug written and I'm like, when the less time 418 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: you walk downtown the daylight they called it body more 419 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: for now they don't call it for no reason. So 420 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: they had to switch because my character sent it to 421 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: Clay Davis assistant. I got caught with thirty thousand dollars 422 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: right they had. I had to give it back and 423 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: then next season my character it wasn't in the story arc. 424 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: So once they switched it to the docks, my character 425 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: got lost. The David signed, who's really loyal to people 426 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: that's on that show. He wanted to pay like homage 427 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: to my character. He brought me back. But that that 428 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: was an amazing experience to be on that show. 429 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: The role that you played. How easy was it for 430 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: you to play that role? 431 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: Uh, Clay Davis, No role is easy for me to 432 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: play because I'm more connected to stand up than acting 433 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: right and to be quite honest halftime, I don't even 434 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. You know. It was one scene Macnaughty. 435 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: He was one of the actors in the Wire. He 436 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: was the director too. So it's one scene when I 437 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: had to snitch on Clay Davis, right, and I was 438 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: feeling uncomfortable to it. I was like, what type of 439 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: what emotion do I want to have? So I was 440 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: playing it like kind of nervous, like oh no. And 441 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: then he came up to me with his accent. He 442 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if you're playing it right. 443 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: He said, I think you really want to put this 444 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: guy down. You want to you want to lock him up. 445 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: I said, motherfucker. I don't know where you're from, but 446 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: where I'm from, you don't snitch. Yeah, and you don't 447 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: snitch like he's the jolliggest fellow, like, oh it's that guy. 448 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: Put them away. You got to act like that's the 449 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: hardest shit in the world. You're like, oh, man, I 450 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: don't want to snitch, but I don't want to go 451 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: to jail as much. I don't want to snisch. And 452 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: then after I did that, he was like, Okay, I 453 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: think you might be blought right. And then and he 454 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: let us stay yep, but that show Man, even though 455 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: it's so interesting. Because an actor, I never took a class. 456 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: I never been trained. The furthest thing, the most training 457 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: I've ever done was I got a monologue book and 458 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: I used to practice in the mirror of different monolagues. 459 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing was, even when I got the 460 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: role of Bread on the Corner, I had no idea 461 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: how that happened. I was in an audition for like 462 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: thirty minutes and the cast director of Jackie Brown Carmen. 463 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: She was one of the biggest black cast directors in 464 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: New York. I was eating in this audition and I 465 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: wanted I wanted to be like, I'm all right whatever, 466 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: and she said, Downhill, God is in the room. You 467 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: good take your time. I was like, well, God, you 468 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: need to come right now. I did the audition and 469 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: I didn't think anybody. I was like, that's passed me. 470 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: And I booked the role and I went on set. 471 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: The first thing I asked David Simon, I said, I said, 472 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: how did y'all pick me? I was like, I really 473 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: thought I bombed that role. I didn't know what was 474 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: going on. And he said, don that we liked the 475 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: fact that you threw the lines away and you did 476 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: your own thing. The reason why I threw the lines 477 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: away because I didn't remember the lines. Yo, I ain't 478 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: throw away. I ain't know it. I ain't know what 479 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: the hell was going on. So and then another thing, 480 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: because I was planning a heroin atic. Yes, and I 481 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: think that everybody and I don't be reading my scripts 482 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: like I was supposed to. Everybody looked at that character 483 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: as a heroine autict and I'm pretty sure everybody went 484 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: in there with the stereotype of leaning like the dope 485 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: feed and everything, and I didn't do that because I 486 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: didn't know. I just thought it was a cool dude. 487 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: And what they wanted to see was who was this 488 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: guy when he wasn't high? Was he that funny? You 489 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: got the neighborhood was was if he was high? So 490 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: you know, I guess God was in the room. I 491 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: got that part. I built a relationship with those people 492 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: of HBO, and it led to me being on the wire. 493 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: When you were doing the wire, did you realize it 494 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: was going to be so well received and it would 495 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: be the phenomenon that it became. 496 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I had no idea. But what 497 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: I did know I was doing shit nobody else was doing. 498 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: You know, I was a deaf Jam comic at that time. 499 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: I probably was one of the only comics that was 500 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: on deaf comedy Jam and then on a critically acclaimed show. 501 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: I didn't predict it. I didn't predict it to be 502 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: that big, but it just took on the life of 503 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: his own. I mean of Idris Elbert, you know, came 504 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: from working the door at Caroline's Comedy Club in New 505 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: York City to being one of the biggest stars in 506 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: the country. And I got to tell you something, I 507 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: hated that when he was on the show, and the 508 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: reason why because they had these women called the string 509 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: of string of belllets or something. He had fans everywhere, right, 510 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: and then I would meet girls and they were like, 511 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: what's you on a wire? And I thought it was 512 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: bout time to shine, right, And they'd be like yeah, 513 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: they'd be like, could you introduce us a string of 514 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: bell I was like, I was like, you as stringer 515 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: bell right. But when they killed him, I was like, yeah, 516 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: where you're man at now? Getting killed on man because 517 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: he was taking all the girls. And I was so 518 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: happy that he just really doubled down. It came one 519 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: of the biggest international stars in the world. So he 520 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: won that fight. But it was Wood, all of those 521 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: guys man, and we had like a like a dope unit. 522 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: Like I was still doing stand up then, and can 523 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: you imagine I would do like a little hole in 524 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: the wall spot in Brooklyn and half half the cast 525 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: of the Wires show up. It was crazy. But nobody 526 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: knew how big that show would be and how last 527 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: so long we're talking about There was an article Entertainment 528 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: Weekly and they said two of the they had one 529 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: hundred best shows in history of TV and Chappelle Show 530 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: in the Wire ranked And I was like, you ask 531 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: yourself legacy and what people remember you by if nothing else, 532 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: If I don't, if I'm not a part of anything else, 533 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: at least I could say I was a part of 534 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: what people are going to talk about. They're gonna be 535 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: talking about that shows until the end of time. 536 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and a hundred year history of television. Yeah, I've 537 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: been on two of the biggest shows. 538 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: They might remember. Part of depth jam with those shows 539 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: they remember, and I was doing both. 540 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 4: Of them at the same time. 541 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you what do you remember about Eris 542 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: because that was early in his career also, so he 543 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: was just an up and comer, just like yourself. I 544 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: remember he took all the damn girls, That's what YO about. 545 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: I still traumatized. 546 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: And then he would double down with that punk ass 547 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: English accent. You want to get to you the Bloy 548 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: Eo town and I got a New York yo. Son 549 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: y'all tried to go. It was a whole different thing. 550 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: But I say, one of the most humble guys, and 551 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: people don't understand they hear about him DJ and whatever 552 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: I think Idris was is and still to this day, 553 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: is as passionate about dj Is as he is as 554 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: as an actor. Really yeah, he's He's a he takes 555 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: the DJ super serious. Wow. 556 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: So when you first heard that accent, do you like you? 557 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: I saw you at Caroline's Comedy Club. 558 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: Bro, you not in joy. You don't talk like that. 559 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: When I heard first heard the accent, I wanted to 560 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: keep talking because I wanted to use it. I wanted 561 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: somebody to come to the Bloid Hotel too. I wanted 562 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: somebody to come to the Bloy Hotel. I'm like, oh man, 563 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: he tare dark handser and an accent. I ain't got 564 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: a chance, and I was just starting my assy journey 565 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: at that time, so it was I was out of 566 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: the I was out of the look. 567 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: But if you think about it, if you go back, 568 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: you look at Idris and the role that he played, 569 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: and you look at Damson uh Idris and Snowfall. How 570 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: the British actors getting all these gangster rolls. 571 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean they they students of the craft. I know 572 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: it's was to talk about to get all the road, 573 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: but you gotta be just imagine a level you have 574 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: to be. 575 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: All those guys. They gotta get dialect coaches. Yeah, cause 576 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: because I didn't even know. I didn't know the guy 577 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 3: at Snowfall, I did not know he was British. 578 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: No, I couldn't tell. 579 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're working for a cheaper amount 580 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: of money, I don't know, if you're on a load, 581 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: that part of it. But for you to be able 582 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: to embody these characters and to do it out in 583 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: another accent, it's got to be something to be said 584 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: about their skill set. But at the end of the day, 585 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: we can plain but everything, but at the end of 586 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: the day, made the best man win, you. 587 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 4: Know, because a lot. 588 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: They're getting upset, like, hold on, you got black actors, 589 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: actors right here in America, and then you bring British 590 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: actors to play a black person a black America. 591 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: Why not just hire black American to play off. 592 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Because they might not have been the best person for 593 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: the job. I don't understand this business. It's about competition 594 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: and like what you're saying, like people can plain. I 595 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: know this may sound crazy. Work harder. Everything ain't gonna 596 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: be for you. You gotta keep going this whole notion 597 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: the man. First off, Hollywood is stuff. The people's perception 598 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: of it is different. At the end of the day, 599 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: all a lot of people do is sit back and complay. 600 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: I say, pull yourself up by the bootstraps, work harder. 601 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: If you didn't get that roll, keep going. This feel 602 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: is a job where you going to be rejected ninety 603 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: five percent of the time. This is a job where 604 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna be broke most of the time. When people 605 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: come up to me like Donelle, you got the advice 606 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: or words of wisdom, I'll always tell them you. First off, 607 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: you gotta be able to be happy being broke in 608 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: this business. If you can't be happy being broke, you 609 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: might as well get out of it, because you're gonna 610 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: be broke most of the time you're doing it. If 611 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: you could find that happy place, if you could, And 612 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: I say, in my case, when I first started, wasn't 613 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: making no money. When I'll do a give for thirty 614 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: dollars and get a five pound bag of potatoes, some baloney, 615 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: some cheese, and some eggs, I'm like, I got food 616 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: for the rest of the week. I was happy because 617 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I knew if I keep on, eventually it's gonna pop 618 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: right and every not everybody, but for the most part, 619 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a shot. You're gonna get in the game. 620 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: But what you do with it when you get in 621 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: the game, and that's what's gonna separate you from everybody else. 622 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: To sit back complaining and not doing nothing and looking 623 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: at everybody succeed and complaining about it. 624 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: When you became successful, you did the WHI you did 625 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: a Chapel show, you're still doing yourself. 626 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't successful then I was working. I was successful. 627 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: That's the illusion people have TV. They think everybody making 628 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: big dollars. Though, let me tell you something, man, When 629 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: I was doing Chappelle Show and the thing about it 630 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: was they you heard me saying a rich bitch at 631 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: the end of the Earth Show, right, you are rich, yo. 632 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: Yo. 633 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: I go to restaurants that Bill would come. They would 634 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: be like this, ah, we thought you was rich bitch. 635 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: I said, I'm nice. But at the same time, Shannon, 636 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: I knew I was positioning myself for success when I 637 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: was doing Chappelle Show and I seen people coming this platform. 638 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: That's what I understanding about actors and people. You signed 639 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: the contract, you put your name on the dotted line, 640 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: you started this show. It was a small show. It 641 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: just so happened that the show blew up. Right, your 642 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: contract already signed, so you entitled to all that money. No. 643 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: The only person in the history of this business has 644 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: ever really tested the industry and say, you know what, 645 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: I know, I did do some contract, but I know 646 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: my value is and y'all still going to step up. 647 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle the only one. He forced the hand of 648 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: Comedy Central, and I think it was very admirable what 649 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: Comedy Central did because they could have said, man, you 650 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: this is what he's supposed to pay you. But you know, 651 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: when I was doing Chappelle Show, I was making five 652 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a sketch and people already know the blogs like, 653 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: oh they should have, but the show wasn't established. I 654 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: knew the best thing I could do that was just standard, 655 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: that's what you got as an actor. But I knew 656 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: me working that episode, me getting three minutes of camera time, 657 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: Now I could go out and get my money on 658 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: the road. Even when when I was when we was 659 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: working there first year's me Charlie. Nobody on that show 660 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: was making a lot of money. But I was like, 661 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: wait a minute, don't match up. Everywhere we go, we're 662 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: hearing I'm Rick James bitch and everything right, we know 663 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: we popping, but our bank accounts ain't popping. And I 664 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: was like, we got to do something. I came up 665 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: with the idea. I said, let's do we need to 666 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: do a tour. I said, let's do a tour. Call 667 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: her I'm rich bitch tour right, And at that time 668 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: I forget the name of the agency, but it was 669 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: a young agent named Mike Berkerwitz, right, he was a 670 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: very young agent. My manager brought to him. I said, 671 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: I want to do this tour. Charlie name is popping. 672 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: It was nowhere you go. You didn't hear Charlie Murphy. 673 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Charlie Murphrey never did comedy before, which I found very 674 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: strange to be around all these people, but never tested yourself. 675 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: So I said, if I want to do this tour, 676 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm the first person that ever took Charlie Murphy on stage. 677 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: And I bullied him to do it because Charlie man 678 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: is a funny guy, talk a lot of trash, and 679 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: whenever I wanted to show him, I was like, yeah, 680 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: you tough in the streets, but put a microphone on 681 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: your face and see what happened. I knew we was 682 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: trying to get some money. He did his open like 683 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: all I needed him to do was have ten minutes 684 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: Bill Burr at the time, Bill Bird. And it's no 685 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: disrespect because you see what happened Bill Berr career. At 686 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: the time Bill Burr probably was a comedian, was headlining 687 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: probably one thousand dollars a weekend. And I'm not saying 688 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: that no disrespect, but you knew when anytime somebody saw it, 689 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: but you know he was gonna pop. But that's just 690 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: where it was then. And I said, Okay, I get 691 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: Charlie to do ten minutes. I bring Bill Burr on 692 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: the show. And Bill Burr wasn't a draw, but he 693 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: was a funny act. And I said, we're gonna do 694 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: this tour. Yes, I could put anybody else on the tour, 695 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: give him a little bit of money. I said, no, 696 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna go get some money three ways split. And 697 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: we did down Rich Bitch Tour and we made some 698 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: probably at that time our career, the most most money 699 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: we ever made. But with anything, Charlie started to know 700 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: what his value was in regard to people wanting to 701 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: pay to see him. Bill Burr was buzzing. He knew 702 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: that he was about to take off, but we had 703 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: to make adjustments. Those that five hundred episode was getting 704 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: us thousands of dollars on the weekend, and that was 705 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: at that time. That was the most money any of 706 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: us have ever said, right with Bill? 707 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: Was he the first white comic that you actually too, 708 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: that you went on tour with? 709 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 710 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: But Bill Birr his history was like you know, Bill Burr, 711 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: when he came to New York, he was one of 712 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: the few white comics that did every room. He did 713 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: the mainstream room and then he did the Chickling Circus 714 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: and I think part of his You know, he's a 715 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: very powerful, strong comment. But I think he got a 716 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: lot of edge being able to go into those rooms 717 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: that everybody feared and just take control of it. But 718 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: Bill Burr has always been a funny guy. 719 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: How difficult is that when you're young you're a black comedian? 720 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: Because I've always asked, and I asked this a lot 721 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 3: of times, do you set? Do you write a set? 722 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: Like I'm going to be in a predominantly white audience. 723 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: Do our writer set accordingly? I'm gonna be in front 724 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: of a predominantly black audience. Do our writer set accordingly? 725 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 3: How difficult is that to do when you're young, en, 726 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: up and coming. Obviously, once you get established, you can 727 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: go into any room. 728 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: It's the toughest thing because usually when you first start 729 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: sharing it, you write your voice is usually who you 730 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: perform for. Right, So if I do the chilling circuit, 731 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: it's easily for me to go up there. The way 732 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: I speak. Certain things that I say, I already know 733 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna understand it. But then you have to. And 734 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: even with me helping with my accent from DC coming 735 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: to New York, you know, I was going places and 736 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: people say, what, what did you say certain rooms, it 737 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: wasn't that way other rooms. I said, you know what, 738 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: you got to work on your addiction. You got to enunciate, 739 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: and you gotta do this butt of a lot of comments. 740 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: They get used to one circuit or one side of 741 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: it and stay with that. But always always knew that 742 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to do more than just chillling circuit. I 743 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: want to do more than just what the black comics 744 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: and my thing was I wanted to be. When I 745 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: was in New York, there's a very popular club called 746 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: the Comedy Seller. It's like the biggest comedy club in 747 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: the world, the biggest names. And when I was in 748 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: New York at that time, it was only two or 749 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: three black comments working there. It was Keith Robinson, it 750 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: was Dave Chappelle, Gria Bombs, and will William Stevenson. That 751 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: was it. And basically it's like you walk around the 752 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: corner of the black club and the white club. It 753 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: wasn't too many people doing both. And I said to myself, 754 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: if I'm going to be respected in this business, or 755 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: if I want to be, I want to be one 756 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: of the best to do it, then I want my 757 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: name to be on the same line out as the 758 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: best to do it. And that was one of the 759 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: reasons why I said I want to do mainstream because 760 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: the black circuit back then, they was paying more, but 761 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: you didn't really have no future. And at the end 762 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: of the day, you were just getting pussy in the 763 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: check and it wasn't even a big chat. 764 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: But in order but for you, you'd realize that, you know, 765 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: in order for me to be what I want to become, 766 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: I'm going to have to have crossover appeal. I'm gonna 767 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 3: have to go appeal to that white. 768 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: Un I gotta go. I gotta go where people are 769 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna see you. Bat then you producers and directors and 770 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: executive producers. They wasn't going to Chaplins Sunday. They wasn't 771 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: going to the Boston Comedy Club Sunday night. They wasn't 772 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: going there. So if you wanted to be seen, you 773 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: had to cross over or another thing people do they got. 774 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: People used to get caught up in the fame of it, 775 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: in the women and the money. I'm cool with this, 776 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: but as the years go on, you like this. I 777 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: wasted so much time just catering to this side of 778 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: it when I could have been over here That's one 779 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: of the things. Like I hear people talk about kem 780 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: On Heart all the time. Kevin Heart was smart enough. 781 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not here to defend anybody. And you know 782 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: something about your culture. You be wondering when it's going 783 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: to heat up, right, And I know deep down them 784 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: cards is gonna get. 785 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 3: That's a lot of gods, right, I'm looking at him 786 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: like this, he got me do so when you were 787 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: growing up? 788 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: What inspired you? I wait for you like this? So 789 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: when you and so and so is pete for nah? No, 790 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: But but what people don't know and I'm using and 791 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: I not Kevin Heart don't need me to defend him. 792 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: I know this little work ethics, yes, because I was 793 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: a part of it. I said it to another platform. 794 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: I remember Kevin Hart had one joke and this is 795 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: not being racist. He's doing an impression of a monkey, right, 796 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: And he was the best monkey you ever seen do 797 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: a monkey joke he had. I mean, he had this 798 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: going on everything. And he used to rip, and he 799 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: used to work the grimiest spots. But he used to 800 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: commute from Philly. He would come up. He would do 801 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: my clubs, the hood clubs, those phillylic spots and then 802 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: he'd go do the mainstream spots. He knew that this 803 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: is only gonna get me one thing. He had a 804 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: bigger picture. He knew it'sact. What's gonna do it? He 805 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: knew how he's gonna get there representation. Guess what, They're 806 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,479 Speaker 1: not going to the to the chicken factory, They're going 807 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: to the seller. They're going to the comedy strip. They're 808 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: going to that. And you have to have the work 809 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: ethics to sit around shaying and wait for opportunity. Somebody 810 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: fall out on the lineup right, somebody you gotta get. 811 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: You got to get a reference to somebody just sit 812 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,479 Speaker 1: around just hanging out. One day, k now's your shot 813 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: to go in there. And I seen him do that. 814 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: I seen him go from my spots to the commedy 815 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: seller spots. I seen him get a manager. I seen 816 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: him go to one of the most prestigious comedy festivals. 817 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: It's a comedy festal challenge with my man Brewser Random 818 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: JFL Comedy festival for years, this festival twenty five years ago, Montreal. 819 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: Yet this was everybody's dream. If I could get on there. 820 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: Guess what, you're not going to get on there. In 821 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: the chilling circuit. You're not. There's no way, some kind 822 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: of way you got to get into the audition. You 823 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: got to the main street. But one thing about that 824 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: special it broke so many people that that festival Monique 825 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: Uptown Comedy Club. It broke her. This festival was so dope, Shandon. 826 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: You can go up there with an eight minute showcase 827 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: set nine to ten minutes, and if you got a 828 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: point of view, people can see what they can do 829 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: it you walking out of there. People was walking on 830 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: there with a quarter million dollar deal just to hold you. 831 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: That's what that festival was. And when people don't understand, 832 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: they say, well, how did so and so go from 833 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: this to that to that? You missed all shit? The 834 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: reason why you miss it because you wasn't invited. You 835 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: didn't have the audition. And you can't knock a person 836 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: that knows how to use their resources and position themself 837 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: for the right people to see them. Or you could 838 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: bitch complain, do them chipling circuit shit all you want. 839 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: They paid money. That's where I came from. But eventually 840 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: you got to figure out how to maneuver yourself through 841 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: this business. Kevin blew up off of that. Dave Chappelle 842 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: blew up off of that, Sue Costello, Monique. It was 843 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: so many people, it was the hottest festival. And that's 844 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: what the birth of Kevin Hart was for the pe 845 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 1: be like, oh, oh he's a plant. No, his path 846 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: was different from your path. You cannot fault anybody because 847 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: the way they get it is different from where you 848 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: get it. And all of this bullshit about oh I 849 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: came through the mud, so and so guess what. I 850 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: came through the mud. Guess what's shannon. I took a shower, 851 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: I put colone on the day, I washed myself, I 852 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: used my watch and lets you know how much child 853 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: and I switched it up. And it's nothing wrong with that. 854 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 3: When you started to become having success, did people think 855 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 3: you took the easy way out? Because it seemed to 856 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 3: be I get that now. Oh he sold his soul. 857 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: But guess what, they don't know what the prince say. 858 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,959 Speaker 1: Sometimes take ten years to be an overnight success. Those 859 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: people that just introduced you, they don't know. But the 860 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: real people they know. That's why I've had arguments with 861 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: comics or whatever. Oh he ain't saw So I'm like, 862 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: ask somebody about me. Ask somebody about my career. Oh 863 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: it's easy, you got the suits. Ask somebody about me 864 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,479 Speaker 1: moving from DC, sleeping on my man, Royo Walker's couch 865 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,479 Speaker 1: for a year and a half. He get a TV show, 866 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: leave me in this apartment. I ain't got no money, 867 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: no electricity, no water. I tried to pay the bills 868 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: them thirty dollars shows. Wasn't getting it. 869 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 3: Yo. 870 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 1: I had an African landlord too, and he's so sick 871 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: of me. Man, we used to pay you what I old. 872 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: He was so mad, he said, please, I would pay 873 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: you to leave, yo, because it was an area about 874 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: to be gentrified. He was like, please, no, no, I 875 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: don't want nothing. I just want you to leave. I'm 876 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: talking about a stitch, of course, from my man's apartment 877 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: up up top, sliding down, switching at stitcher cord from 878 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: a hot plate to an iron to a heater. People 879 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Nobody knows you come back other than the 880 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: people did. But then at some point it ain't your 881 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: job to give a. 882 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 3: You know, because a lot of times all they see 883 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 3: is the success, but they never see the struggle. And 884 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 3: because they didn't see the struggle, they see the success. 885 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 3: They see the TV shows, they see the cars, they 886 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 3: see the house, they see whatever. 887 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: That's what everybody want to do. Now they want to 888 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: be you. Everybody want to be you today. Everybody want 889 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: to be Joe Rogan. To that day, nobody want to 890 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: be Joe Rogan twenty five years ago when people is like, 891 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: what the is this? But now they see the success, 892 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: they want to do it. You don't even know how 893 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: many they say now I want to do a podcast, 894 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: I want to do a club station. They don't know 895 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: how many years you was putting in with't nobody believed 896 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: in this when it was like, watch, it's gonna pop 897 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: if I keep going. I had offers to do this show. 898 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: People are trying to fi this before it popped, and 899 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: I feel bad, not feel bad coming under down because 900 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I really didn't want it to 901 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: feel like, oh now it's popping. Always but it was 902 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: always a conflict. Another one of the reasons because we 903 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: got mutual friends Red Graham, my Man, Keith Burns on 904 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: one of your Yeah, I went to I grew up. 905 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: I know him since we played little league football today, right, 906 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: But they going back to my point, everybody wants to 907 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: take the easy route. Nobody wanted to take the hard work. 908 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: It takes something like this. It wasn't last year. It 909 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: takes years. It takes years of look at them subscriptions. 910 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: God damn, I thought that one's gonna pop like a 911 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: thousand views. You don't know, you don't know. But then 912 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: when that lick hits, you feel good. But everybody else like, 913 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, but you back there like this. I 914 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: knew it right. All I needed was the time. 915 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 3: You go back to the wire, you yourself, Iri Selba, 916 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 3: you had Michael B. 917 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 4: Jordan was on there. I think he was like fourteen 918 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 4: fifteen years of age. Yeah, Michael K. Williams. 919 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 3: I mean that cast that you guys had, what were 920 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 3: your you have a relationship where you guys everyone said together. 921 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: I had a relationship with Idris. Would I have a 922 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: relationship with him? Michael B. Jordan. I was like so 923 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: much older him. I really had nothing in common with him. 924 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: Michael kay Wims. We was really really close. I was 925 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: like one of my closest guys connected to that. He 926 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: used to come out. He was a real Brooklyn Brooklyn dude. 927 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: So he used to be like man rfpd M. He's 928 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: a great dude, you know, trouble souls. You know, things happened, 929 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: but he was like one of my closest connections, but 930 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: the biggest connection. And I want to go back when 931 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 1: I did the corner Tasha Smith, Tasha Smith and Candy 932 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: Alexander Right, Tasha Smith, and I don't want to be 933 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: offensive or anything. When I say it's people don't have 934 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: to take the wrong way. She's a bad bitch. And 935 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 1: when I say that, not just on the actor's side, 936 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about directed. There is nothing she can do. 937 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know. I'm trying to encourage 938 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: her to go back. She started as a stand up 939 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: but she was my coach when I didn't know what 940 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: I was doing. Chinna and I don't have You're talking 941 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 1: about a guy with no training. She used to put 942 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: me to a side, read my lines with me. In fact, 943 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: she was the reason why I was on BMF. Wow. 944 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: She was like she called me one day. You know 945 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: how certain people call you. You know it's a money 946 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 1: phone called, right, And I was in the was getting 947 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: dressed for another thing. It was for a winning time 948 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: the HBO show by the Laker Dinostat And I'm gonna happy. 949 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm working and I get a call for her. 950 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, I ain't got time to answer this call. 951 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm getting dressed right soon as I picked the phone up, 952 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: because she said, what I called? You gotter answers? I God, 953 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: damn phone. I'm with fifty right now, I would I'm 954 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: with Randy. Randy was with the Creative Record and she 955 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: basically gave me that role. Wow, that role I played? Uh? 956 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: What was I? Alvin? She gave me that role. And 957 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: this is what people don't understand about this business. Everybody 958 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: aways want to say, oh, you had that little role 959 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: or that little so and so because they didn't have it. No, 960 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: not only that, because they didn't have it, but only 961 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: that they don't They don't look at what you're building. Right. 962 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: First off, I tell anybody you got to get on 963 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: set first. You gotta get on set or I'm gonna 964 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: turn it there. I only got one line. You gotta 965 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: get on set. That role that I played, I was 966 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: only supposed to be in one unseen season finale. Randy 967 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: loved that character so much because it was it was 968 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: based on one of his cousins. He was really connected 969 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: with that. I was supposed to be on one episode, right, 970 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: The next next they brought me back and they fell 971 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: in love with the character. They brought me back for 972 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: another episode, another episode, another episode where it went through 973 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: that that second season, I think I was in seven 974 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: out of the out of the out of the ten 975 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: and that's because I took that little ass role and 976 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: I and I did the Parlad Chappelle's show. I was 977 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: not supposed to be on that show. There was no cast. 978 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 1: Everybody's lace call us the cast. It wasn't no cast. 979 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: It was Dave and Neil had this show right, and 980 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: they could just put anybody on the show they wanted. 981 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 1: At the beginning, we had one actor in one scene 982 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: I remember he wasn't doing well. Wasted about an hour 983 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: and a half of UH of industry time, a lot 984 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: of money, and where Dave and Neil would just say 985 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: you on the show. They said, you know what, Comedy 986 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: Central says that everybody has to audition. Now I had 987 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: already did. I'm rich, bitch right. I could have been like, man, 988 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: y'all know my work, I'm not auditioning, But I said, 989 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: if I do that, I guess what, I won't have 990 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: a shot. So I went back in the audition room, murdred. 991 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 1: The audition never heard that again. But I was only 992 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: as good as my last sketch. I was only as 993 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: good as my last scene. It wasn't like they had 994 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: to write stuff for me. And my thing was if 995 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: you go hard enough one thing when you want to set, 996 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: and if you start ripping, same thing I say with 997 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: Julie White with Erkele supposed to been on one episode. 998 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: But if you rip and you and them right now, 999 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: they start thinking about you now. They used to just like, Okay, 1000 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna bring them in. Another thing. When I was 1001 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: doing Spell Show, ninety percent of the things I was 1002 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: in I wasn't supposed to be in. I was broke. 1003 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 1: I knew that if I go on set, I guess 1004 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: some free food, I get to hang out and they 1005 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna tap me in right, Like eighty five percent of 1006 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: things that came out of my mouth on that show, 1007 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: it was all improv and me being in a moment, 1008 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: just hanging out. 1009 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 3: I think you mentioned that you were supposed to have 1010 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 3: Michael K. Williams's role, and you see what that role became. 1011 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 3: Did you, like damn think about what could have been? 1012 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: No reason why? Because certain things happened. I was like, 1013 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: they got the best person for the job. And another 1014 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: reason why they had the best person for the job 1015 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: for the job with him, because I wasn't gonna tunk 1016 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: kunk dunk gets some big old They got the right 1017 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: one for that was I was like, I just thought 1018 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: he was a gangst I didn't know he was taking 1019 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: dick Son. But that's they wrote that in. I didn't 1020 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: write it in, but I was like, you know what, 1021 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 1: they got the best person for that job. Another situation, 1022 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: this role Cat Wims was here right, yes, he talked 1023 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: that role that he played Alligator Man on Atlanta. That 1024 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: role came to me and him. I was still in 1025 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: the running for that. I was asked major, they said, 1026 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 1: you're still in You said, I ain't saying I was 1027 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: going to get the job, but I knew I was 1028 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: still in the running for it. But certain times I 1029 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,879 Speaker 1: look at people, I look at their skill set, and 1030 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: after the minute I found out that Cat Williams. 1031 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 4: Got it, I was not mad that you didn't get it. 1032 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I know how strong he is 1033 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: as a combat I know how strong it is an 1034 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: actor that role. I looked at the role, in the 1035 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: dynamic of it and I know he would go all 1036 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: in and I was absolutely right about Dave was a 1037 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: bad choice because he won an envy off with them 1038 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: with that role. But never once I was envious or jealous. 1039 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: I was like back to the drawing board. 1040 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 3: I remember when Michael k Waditam said that he was scared, 1041 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 3: he was conflicted about taking the role. 1042 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 4: And we we hear now a. 1043 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 3: Lot of about black putting on dresses, playing those type 1044 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 3: of roles. 1045 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 4: Where are you on that? Where are you on Matt Donnie? 1046 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: I will tell you this, and you might just all 1047 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: need something to be mad about it? And I hope 1048 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: you can keep that. I'm not happy unless they mad 1049 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: about something. How many it's rich, bitter out of here, 1050 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: they got everything, still have something to be mad about. 1051 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: You can make that argument the demascalation of a man. Whatever. 1052 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: You know who you are, and really the reason why 1053 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: they're so stupid to me, Flip Wilson, Flip Wilson, All right, 1054 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: this motherfucker Ward dress. Guess what he was owner of 1055 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: his show, He was executive producer, and he knew who 1056 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: he was and he knew it was a character. And 1057 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: I tell you another thing. They always talk about his dress. 1058 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: Ship right. I'm gonna tell you when I was like, 1059 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,760 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying you know, I know they blooded, 1060 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: Oh that means he would put a dress on, go 1061 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: out of here. Ping Rains played Holiday Heart right, right, transgender. 1062 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: I hope I'm getting the right character. How Holiday Heart right? 1063 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: Our auditioned for that role? It's you? What was the 1064 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 1: line so you all see you are the bitches? It 1065 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: was because of you? Bitch? Is that this bitch has 1066 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: been ignoring me for months? I remember that was part 1067 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: of the line. Right. It was a dress, all right, 1068 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,439 Speaker 1: whoeveryone says dress, go say something to being ranged about 1069 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: word of dress. You ain't gonna do it. And what 1070 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,959 Speaker 1: people don't understand is like, this is an art, right, 1071 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 1: this is an art. Now. I'm not saying this for everybody. 1072 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this for me. I'm gonna tell you 1073 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: when they hit me when I was like, man, who 1074 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: give a about what people say? I was doing the 1075 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: episode of Wilding Out. Pull up to Tyler Perry's studios 1076 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: Military Basem. You been there. 1077 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 4: I haven't been there, but I know. 1078 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: You go up in there, military base. Eight lanes on 1079 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: each side of the studio. You drive through that shit 1080 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: you may go down and make a rite Harry Belafonte Studios, 1081 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:18,399 Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey Studios, Sidney Poitier Studios. And I look back, 1082 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: I was like, from a dress. From a dress, I 1083 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: was like, I'm a size eight. But it's people that 1084 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: have too much time on their hand to make the argument. 1085 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: And I guarantee you, Shaney any the most people that 1086 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: talk that shit about blah blah blah blah blah, look 1087 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: at what they're doing in life. It's probably a nigga 1088 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: the bar's girl car bring it back on, eat blunt, 1089 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,919 Speaker 1: guts all over it. You know what I'm saying. You 1090 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: just it don't make no sense in any intelligent person 1091 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: will underst sing that it's all bullshit, right, you know 1092 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to get caught. And I know that. 1093 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he looked like, here, wear a dress. It 1094 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: ain't my thing. But I am not knocking somebody or 1095 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: judging them somebody that does that. And especially in comedy. Now, 1096 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: if I pick you up, we're going to the club 1097 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 1: and you come up with a sequence dress, I'm like, 1098 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: your son, you gotta change that, or at least change 1099 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: your heels and so put some temps on with that dress. 1100 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: Nigga ain't gonna be going out yet, right, Well, that's 1101 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: with that dress and them heels in. 1102 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,240 Speaker 4: The bare bottoms. But is that mainly in our community? 1103 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,479 Speaker 3: Because you see Dustin Hoffman, you see uh uh and 1104 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 3: Robbie Williams play that missed oubt fire and I think 1105 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 3: Dustin Hoffer was a tutsi uh, and you see so 1106 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 3: many other actors. 1107 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,240 Speaker 1: It's mostly it is definitely linked to our culture because 1108 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 1: Black culture is the most homophobic culture out there, right, 1109 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, certain like just it's just 1110 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: it's what it is. It's the way I have a 1111 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: gay brother, right, and I was I asked my brother, 1112 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: I said, do you think I'm homophobic? And he said, no, 1113 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you're homophobic, but I do think you're 1114 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: homo ignorant. And the reason why I was, I was like, 1115 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, I am ignorant. I'm not just saying that 1116 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm a bad person. I think the reason why I'm 1117 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,240 Speaker 1: homore ignorant because I was raised by homophobic people. Of course, 1118 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,919 Speaker 1: so how do I not be homophobic? 1119 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 4: Correct? 1120 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: I was raised with uncles that thought anything could make 1121 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:30,439 Speaker 1: you gay. Don't eat cottage cheese, nigga, nah, they're getting 1122 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 1: you used to consistency. I'm telling you, that's the gateway. 1123 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: You'd be like wa wak walk I do that. Don't worry, pink. 1124 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: That's what I grew up with. But I do think 1125 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: that our mindsets have evolved to a point where the 1126 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 1: things I noticed it even in Commy Shame, it was 1127 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: certain things that I could say thirty years ago it 1128 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: would get a laugh from the audience, like easy, lad 1129 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: go ahead, you little whatever you get. Let that that 1130 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 1: doesn't exist no more. And I understand that the mindset 1131 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: of p people in general have changed. My brother is 1132 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: my brother with my My father had multiple kids, and 1133 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: and uh when I remember when my brother kind of 1134 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: came out, because when I was growing up, I just 1135 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 1: thought my brother had all the bitches right. I didn't 1136 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: know he was like in that life or that I 1137 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: didn't because I was so young, I didn't really connect 1138 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: with sexuality. And I was too busy trying to build 1139 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: bikes and shit like that. So some time it went 1140 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: past we had separated each other. As a young adult, 1141 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: I was at a comedy club in Hollywood and he 1142 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: came to the show and he said we was outside. 1143 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: I was taking pictures I was caught up in my 1144 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: moment and I said, I said, he said, you see 1145 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: that guy over there. I said yeah, he said that's 1146 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,919 Speaker 1: your brother in law. When my father has so many kids, 1147 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: I thought he was introducing me to another brother. I'm like, man, 1148 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: I ain't got time for no more brothers, no sisters. 1149 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: It didn't hit me too Later I went home, I said, 1150 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: oh shit, I think my brother just told me he 1151 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 1: was gay. I called my father, my father. I'm talking 1152 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,240 Speaker 1: about a straight street dude, heroin kingspenn In DC, whatever 1153 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: like Pool got straight straight. And I said, Dad, I 1154 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: think Chucky just told me he was gay. And my 1155 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 1: father said, man, I knew what he was up to, 1156 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: like being gay was up to something like not there, yeah, yeah, 1157 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 1: court body, But just right, he said, I knew what 1158 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: he's up to. And this is when I when I said, 1159 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 1: the way people think and in mind is evolved. And 1160 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: for my father, just make this thing right here. It 1161 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: means a lot to a person's carriage. He said, I 1162 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: knew what he was up to, but he said he 1163 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 1: was speaking on my on my brother's boyfriend. He said, man, 1164 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: but that's a good nigga right right in that moment 1165 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: and I knew that my father cared more about the 1166 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 1: character and the guy that my brother chose to be 1167 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: in love with than what anybody else can think. And 1168 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: I do, and I do think that mindsets have changed 1169 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 1: so much when it comes out. 1170 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this the Chappelle Show, How did 1171 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 4: that come about? 1172 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 1: The Chappelle Show came about? Were you friends with before 1173 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: the show? Yeah? I knew him, but we knew of 1174 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: each other. Like going back to your question about the 1175 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: DC thing, It's one thing about being a comic from DC. 1176 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: You always looked at the people that were before you 1177 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: and what moves they made. The first thing when you're 1178 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: coming from d C, the first sign that you're really 1179 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: going forward. When you moved, you gotta leave DC. You 1180 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: gotta leave. It's not like now you be on the internet. 1181 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: You could be anywhere. You had to be going to 1182 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: New York in La so and when I came out 1183 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: to gains Shannon, when I tell you, first time I 1184 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: ever touched the microphone, I got to stand in the ovation. 1185 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: I was doing comedy for five months that I made 1186 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: Death Comedy Jam. I was on fire and David. It 1187 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: is on record, Dave telling this story. Somebody asked Dave. 1188 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: And my fiftieth birthday, they asked, Dave, where did you 1189 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: Chris Spencer ask Dave. He said, where'd you meet Donelle? 1190 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna tell you where I first met donnad. 1191 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: He said, well, now, I used to be in DC. 1192 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: He said, I was the guy and I would leave, 1193 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: I would be in New York. I would come home 1194 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: and I would always ask who's the up and coming 1195 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: who's smoking? And Dave say it was always the regular names, 1196 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: fat doctor, Andy Evs, but the owner barber RP wrest 1197 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: of So, she said, Dave, but there's this one guy 1198 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: named Don all Rawlins that's on fire. And Dave the 1199 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: competitive nature he is, he said that nigga. And then 1200 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: when somebody asked me, when I asked that same question, 1201 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: I said, who was popping? Who's got to smoke it? 1202 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: They was like, Dave Spouse like, so, what's so nice 1203 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: about me? It's like he's smart, you know, he's animated, 1204 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: he's a good actor. They said all this shit, and 1205 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I felt the same thing. I was like, man, 1206 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: fuck him. It was like a healthy competition. So we 1207 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: knew of each other. But my connection with Chappelle show. 1208 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: It was Neil Brennan. Neil Brennan was a producer or 1209 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: an assistant for In a Living Color when they were 1210 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 1: going out scouting talent, and he had me in a 1211 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: couple of audition tapes. And Neil Brennan and Dave had 1212 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: already wrote Half Baked, right. But the thing was when 1213 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: they did that, Neil was popping as a writer. I 1214 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: think he sold two or three scripts to Hollywood, but 1215 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: his work wasn't being produced. It wasn't getting greenlit. He 1216 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: was getting the money, but he wasn't getting green light. 1217 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: So he wanted to direct. He called my manager and said, 1218 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 1: I really like Downille. I did this short film. I 1219 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: would like for him to be in it. It's just me, 1220 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: a camera, me and one other person whatever. And he said, 1221 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: I want him to do it. He said, I want 1222 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: no money to pay him, but I like for him 1223 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: to do it. But this was the time I was on. 1224 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 1: I was on, already started to wire. It was on 1225 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: a corner. I was like, I know you can't afford 1226 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: to pay me, but if you're ever in a situation 1227 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: where you could throw me a bone, i'd appreciate it, right, 1228 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 1: but I'll do it. I did it. Maybe two months 1229 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: later he said I'm working on something. Neil bring and said, 1230 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm working something. I'ma let you know. I was like, 1231 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm busy, whatever, right, I was like, what's the show? 1232 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 1: Nehby show? He said, we don't have a name for it. 1233 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: A month after that, Neil called me and said, I 1234 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 1: want you to be on the show and that show 1235 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't toss back that show 1236 00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 1: that he promised if he ever did in a position 1237 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: to look at for me, it was a Chappelle's show. 1238 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 1: And of course I could have couldn't have been on 1239 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: the show with the out the approval of Dave. But 1240 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Dave Dave was one of the work with people that 1241 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: he just thought were funny. 1242 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 4: Right. 1243 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: He didn't really know me as an actor. It was 1244 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: just like this, these are the guys. But Neil Brennan 1245 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: with Neil Brennan was definitely instrumental on my connection with 1246 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: that choke. 1247 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 3: I try to tell people this that the one thing 1248 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 3: that I know about in this business now, the entertainment 1249 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 3: side of it, and when you have advertising and sponsors, 1250 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 3: it's all about relationships. Yeah, if you do not have relationships, 1251 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 3: you're not going to go very far in this bit. 1252 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 3: It's really that simple because a lot of times the 1253 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 3: people that are in position now weren't in those positions 1254 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 3: years ago. And they were and they remember how people 1255 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 3: treated them when they couldn't help them. 1256 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you something. I'm nice to 1257 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 1: thirty three old yo, thirty three, thirty five. And the 1258 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: reason why I say that he wasn't twelve. They was 1259 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: twelve when I was. I told my agents, Yo, let's 1260 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: go for these thirty three old executives. They were twelve 1261 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 1: watching this show. A lot of the work that I 1262 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,919 Speaker 1: get now is like this, man, I used to watch 1263 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: the show with me and my dad, and you know, 1264 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 1: you started relationships early on. I'm like these guys and 1265 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: I feel and you know, I get this a lot 1266 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: of times. Oh, he's riding Dave coattails, Dave's flunky, all 1267 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: of this shit right. Oh, if it wasn't for Dave, 1268 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: guess what Dave had his production companies called Polytboy Production. 1269 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: The reason why I was called polyt Boy Production because 1270 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Dave had like eleven or twelve pilots before Chappelle's show. 1271 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: They always gunn for him. He was always getting shot 1272 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: for some reason. If it wasn't the right chemistry, the 1273 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: right team. It wasn't happened. It was a Chappelle show 1274 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: that came together and that was the one. So as 1275 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: much as you want to say, as much as I 1276 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: want to say it wasn't for Dave, guess what if 1277 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't for the team that Dave built, he wouldn't 1278 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: have won a championship. You give Jordan all the credit. 1279 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 1: He's the star. He needed rebounds, he needed somebody to 1280 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: push that ball out. He needs somebody to say it. 1281 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,959 Speaker 1: So as much as people want to say that, yes, 1282 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: that show was a platform for me, but I brought it. 1283 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: There's not a scene on that show that I didn't pop. 1284 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: If you listen to, some of the most iconic phrases 1285 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: on that show came out of my mouth. It was 1286 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 1: their writing, but as much, and I'm forever grateful for 1287 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 1: what they did to me, But I know that I 1288 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a bum. 1289 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 4: I put in wait, and. 1290 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: I always tell people that if you look at it, 1291 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: I say, my career is if you want to compare 1292 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: it to anything, and I just go to the hip 1293 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 1: hop artists bust the rhymes. You might not remember too 1294 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 1: many of busting rhymes albums. But you know when he 1295 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 1: came on the track, he was up and he was 1296 01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 1: going to bounce, And that was my relationship with that show. 1297 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 4: You know what. 1298 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 3: That's what I hate when they say, oh, you know 1299 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 3: you ride this cold tails or if it wasn't for him. 1300 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 3: But the question is, if I'm not successful, what would 1301 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 3: you have said? But I ain't got no talent? You 1302 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You say you rode Dave's code teil. 1303 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 3: It was all because of Dave. Now, if the show 1304 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 3: is not a success, you're not a success. What are 1305 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 3: you gonna say? Then you can say you just sain't 1306 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 3: have no talent. Now that it's successful, you're gonna say 1307 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 3: it's because of somebody else. 1308 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 4: You don't want to give me the credit. 1309 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: Once we get the power of not giving them, that 1310 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 1: is yo. You think about it. The most successful, you know, 1311 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: the one they get to. 1312 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 3: A point they don't they don't give them the care. 1313 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 3: They care less. 1314 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: But when you got heart, which I do have, and 1315 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: then when you care about what people think, which I 1316 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 1: do have, I think about that. And if we because 1317 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: of social media, you get to instantly tell how people 1318 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 1: feel about you. You slide in comments, you get somebout it, 1319 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 1: but once you get to that point where you don't 1320 01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: give it, that's when your ship start to pop. 1321 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 3: But then when you don't care, you see how he 1322 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 3: turns back on the people to help them get the 1323 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 3: way he got to. 1324 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: That's why I have the thing, no ship, no ship. 1325 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 1: I do that, like you know what, Once I get 1326 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: to play, that's it. 1327 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1328 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 3: So when you start the Chapelle Show, could you have 1329 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 3: envisioned that it was gonna be what it became? 1330 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: Now I know I'm gonna pick it back on what 1331 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 1: you said about earlier the wire. I didn't know Chappelle's show. 1332 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: I knew. And the reason why I knew Chappelle's show 1333 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: because I was the warm up comic on that show, 1334 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: Like when I said what my comment, like when we 1335 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 1: did the wrap rounds in the studio, I was the first. 1336 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 1: I was the first person you ever saw in that show. 1337 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 1: It was my job to go out there and get 1338 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 1: the audience. Ye, So I knew I could feel the 1339 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 1: energy from that audience. I knew it was gonna blow. 1340 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: And another thing, I used to call Neil every every 1341 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: every time episode because I used to be like I 1342 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: was in the streets. I was still in the streets, 1343 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: still in Brownsville, Brooklyn, and I was like, I would 1344 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 1: call him, I like, yo, I was talking to the 1345 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: streets today, and they'd be like, what the street say. 1346 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: I'll say the streets say that shit was funny as shit, 1347 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: because you know, Dave has had a level of success 1348 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: for the most part, Dave earlier in his career he's 1349 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 1: been a prodigy, and then he had a level of 1350 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,919 Speaker 1: success way before a lot of us, and we say 1351 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: that all we wanted to do when we first started 1352 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 1: was the work of college circle and make money. He 1353 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 1: was a king of that. They loved him, Main Street 1354 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: loved them and everything. But for some reason at that point, 1355 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: his stuff was not resonating with the streets like that right, 1356 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: he was like, why you get the streets? WHOOPI Goldberg, 1357 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 1: Mailbrooks all these people. Okay, but I just felt a 1358 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: certain enjury when I go to the barbershop when I 1359 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: used to talk to you like some real streets and 1360 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: they was fascinated with that. Neil and Day was like, 1361 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 1: what did the streets say? Because they know what the 1362 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 1: executives say, what the streets says. And every week I 1363 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 1: would every week I would just predict what the rady 1364 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: was going to be. It was over. It kept going 1365 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,959 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, and even like another reason on that show. 1366 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: You if you're a historian that show, you notice every 1367 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 1: time I did a character. When I come on, people 1368 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 1: just went crazy. The reason why they went crazy because 1369 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: I was the warm up comedian before the sketch, so 1370 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 1: they would be connected to this stand up comedian and 1371 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 1: then oh shit, so it was a bigger laugh. That's 1372 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 1: why when Beautiful came on. That's why when Ashy Larry 1373 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 1: came on, people did it came off a bigger laugh 1374 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: because they laughing and somebody made them laugh before they 1375 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:33,880 Speaker 1: even saw him in the sketch. 1376 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 4: How did you come up with the character Ashy Larry? 1377 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: I didn't well the character on paper. He was just 1378 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: a guy that had boxers on and dress shoes and 1379 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: stole his girl's money. But I knew on that show 1380 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 1: that I didn't get a lot of time to talk, 1381 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 1: So I knew that any character I had, I had 1382 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 1: to physically be funny before I even say anything, because 1383 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna if you had an editor, uh on 1384 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 1: the timeline how much time I talked on that show? 1385 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 1: I didn't talk a lot, but I knew that I 1386 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: wanted to be funny on site. So I went to 1387 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: uh Don Yelle. He was a makeup guy. I told him, 1388 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: I said, give me some baby powder, right, I said, 1389 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 1: I want to be so I want to be so ashy. 1390 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 1: I could write how much money people owed me on 1391 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: the side of my leg. I wanted to be I 1392 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: wanted to be the Ashes dude. Then when when you 1393 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: see me go back and get the trash bag, that 1394 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: was real trash. I was like, how can I get 1395 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 1: the most? How do I get the most out of 1396 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 1: this with the least amount of time. In fact, when 1397 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 1: we did World Series of Dice, that was the first 1398 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: time we had somebody outside of what was becoming the cast. 1399 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: Charlie Dave, Eddie Griffin was in that sketch. That sketch 1400 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed I wasn't suposed to pop that sketch. It 1401 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 1: was for Grinson Gravey, that was for them. But I 1402 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: just couldn't stop. I just it was just something that 1403 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: was possessed with something. I remember Charlie looked at me, 1404 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 1: he said, do you know what you're doing to this shit? 1405 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. He said, man, you're 1406 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 1: killing this shit, and I just went I just went 1407 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: crazy because I knew I might not be here next week. 1408 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Eddie Griffiny even said something to me. He said, Donny, 1409 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 1: you know what I like about you and this show, 1410 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,160 Speaker 1: and in particular, he said, you're not afraid to get ugly. 1411 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 1: I want to say, I'm not too far from it. 1412 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,799 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I ain't never caught. Nobody 1413 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 1: ever caught me. Fine, you know, I was like, but 1414 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,920 Speaker 1: he was like, just that person to get dirty, don't 1415 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 1: give I wasn't nobody think And then I knew that 1416 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I was just I was just only I was just 1417 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 1: fighting to be on a on another thing. But that's 1418 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 1: how the character was there. 1419 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 4: But I put the hot salt on right. 1420 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the success is having the show is having success 1421 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 3: beyond I mean, you thought it was gonna be successful, 1422 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 3: but it probably at this point, he's even surprising you 1423 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 3: with the level of success that it's enjoying. And then 1424 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,719 Speaker 3: you find out that Dave is going to step away. 1425 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 3: Did she talk to you? Did he talk to anyone 1426 01:08:59,240 --> 01:08:59,640 Speaker 3: about that? 1427 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: It just broke out, But I felt we got to 1428 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 1: realize that was going to the third season me and 1429 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 1: Charlie were so excited. We got the rich bitch to 1430 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: it going on, were going back to the third season. 1431 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's a chance that it might be a 1432 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 1: situation where we can make more money, but we're just 1433 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 1: excited about it. If I knew it's something weird because 1434 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,640 Speaker 1: the last sketch I saw it, man, it was this 1435 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 1: show where we played monsters. I played a mummy, he 1436 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 1: played a wolf, and Charlie played Frankenstein. Whatever right, and 1437 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 1: me and Charlie just having fun on set. We kicking it. 1438 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 1: We're kicking it. And I saw a Dave he was 1439 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 1: awharewith and he was just looking like the and he said, 1440 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 1: I guess fifty million is not enough. And I would 1441 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 1: look at him like, who you talking to? Not enough? 1442 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,719 Speaker 1: I take the zero, you could take three more milk 1443 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: zeros off. I'm good with it. And I didn't know 1444 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 1: that what was troubling, But that was just so for 1445 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: somebody that's still me, still coming up, not used to 1446 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,880 Speaker 1: having no big money anything. I was like, I don't 1447 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 1: even know staying how anybody can say I guess fifty 1448 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 1: million is not enough. I didn't understand that. And then 1449 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 1: he disappeared, not not communicate with me. But you gotta 1450 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 1: also realize we was doing the show me and they 1451 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 1: weren't the best of buddies. I try to keep my 1452 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 1: relationship be co workers. I don't want to be all like, hey, buddy, 1453 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 1: just let me go do my do movie. So we 1454 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: never even that time we hung out after the show. 1455 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 1: We really got connected after the show. After he came back, 1456 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 1: but like he disappeared. And it was so funny because 1457 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: I told Neil didn't know where it was, and I said, man, 1458 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: I bet you he went. He probably went to Africa. 1459 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,680 Speaker 1: And it was to be like, why would you say that. 1460 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 1: I remember we were in the green room one day. 1461 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: It was me, Dave most Death and Dave was I think. 1462 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: I think most Death was a real estate agent in 1463 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 1: Africa because he was trying to get everybody come to Africa. 1464 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 1: Every I want to say, Yo, you can't get all 1465 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: of Brooklyn to come to Africa because the Africa becomes 1466 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: Brooklyn making a secret or whatever. Right, But I just 1467 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 1: had this weird feeling that he probably went there. Didn't 1468 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,559 Speaker 1: cut to maybe two three days later that they announced 1469 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: that he was in Africa. But for us, I never 1470 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: thought I didn't know what the severity of what his 1471 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 1: thoughts were. I didn't never I never thought that he 1472 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,679 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna come back. In fact, when he left, we 1473 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,799 Speaker 1: was like this, all right, we can go back on tour. 1474 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 4: Now, right, because we had you gonna come back. 1475 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, We was like this, oh man, yeah, let me 1476 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 1: take three months off. I'm just thinking about the money 1477 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna stack up to come back. But he never 1478 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,680 Speaker 1: came back, and he never communicated anything to me. 1479 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,080 Speaker 3: Do you believe there was a number that he would 1480 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 3: have been willing to come back from or he was 1481 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 3: just over being underpaid for such a long time that 1482 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 3: he's like fifty million. If y'all gonna pay me fifty million, 1483 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 3: how much are you guys actually making. 1484 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a tough question that only Dave 1485 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 1: could probably they can answer. But at the same time, 1486 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 1: I know he loves money, but he's not driven by money, 1487 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think that it was 1488 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 1: probably it probably more than likely something morally he didn't 1489 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,719 Speaker 1: agree with, but I don't think it was I don't 1490 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 1: think that his decision to walk away was just the money. 1491 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,720 Speaker 1: But I think that when he came back, it's like, now, 1492 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 1: give me my money. Yeah, but I don't think that 1493 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 1: that was. 1494 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 3: That when you did the blast get reparation skits, you know, Prince, 1495 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,639 Speaker 3: you know the skits are classic, the Rick James, the Prince. 1496 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 4: Did you I mean when you're like on set. 1497 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 3: And you're seeing him doing these skids because I can 1498 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,799 Speaker 3: just imagine to hold it together? 1499 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever like we never held a hill? 1500 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 1: We ain't never had it yet, for we blew so 1501 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 1: many takes. It was so many takes that we were 1502 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 1: always thought about what we had on paper, right, but 1503 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 1: then he's so genius, was sketched. It was always like, yeah, 1504 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 1: that's what was on there, but he always had something 1505 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: in his back pocket. He always had a draw for 1506 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,559 Speaker 1: that he was going to throw something. And then after 1507 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: a while he kind of trusted us to get kind 1508 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: of loose and add that element to it. But it 1509 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,120 Speaker 1: was I guarantee you half the stuff that was written 1510 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 1: on that paper it never made it, and we just 1511 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,439 Speaker 1: we just got loose with it. 1512 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 3: Is that what makes you is that what makes him 1513 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 3: so good is that is and most comedians have this ability, 1514 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 3: is that their ability to improv and yes it's wrong, 1515 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 3: it's on there, but if you let me do it 1516 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 3: my way. Kat said that, let me do it my way, 1517 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,679 Speaker 3: and I promise you it will be ten times funnier. 1518 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 1: But you can't always. But see, that's the problem that 1519 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 1: everybody's not gonna agree to that. And the reason why 1520 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: that you got writers are getting paid a lot of money. 1521 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,799 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of insulting if you just basically 1522 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,599 Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna do all of that. Some people they did. 1523 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,600 Speaker 1: That's the only way he can work. But even in 1524 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: our case, we never want to disrespect the writers. We 1525 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,360 Speaker 1: would do with Brian Tucker, nail and put on paper. 1526 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 1: Then it was like this, Okay, let me get one. 1527 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But no, you're not gonna 1528 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 1: have too many sets. It's gonna let you do whatever 1529 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 1: you want. Yeah, because then now you start doing that, 1530 01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: now they gotta pay you as a writer. There's a 1531 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,720 Speaker 1: whole bunch of things. But it wasn't. But but the 1532 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 1: thing that we the thing about working with him is 1533 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 1: that he makes you go harder. It makes you want 1534 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: to be the best thing you could be. Is it 1535 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 1: true that r Kelly said goons at I don't know, 1536 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if this is true? To 1537 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,679 Speaker 1: Kelly's uh saying goons, But I know we had goons too, 1538 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,560 Speaker 1: So it was gonna be a good It's gonna be 1539 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 1: a good Yeah, it was gonna be a good convention. 1540 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,680 Speaker 1: But I don't know too much about that. But damn man, 1541 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 1: that was another thing we was like it was it 1542 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 1: was a show, was feelings like we're gonna say we 1543 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 1: want and not care about what you think, but we 1544 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: do the funny first to deal with it after that. 1545 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 4: Could there be a Chappelle show today? 1546 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that would be a tough one. That would 1547 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 1: be a tough I think certain things. I don't know 1548 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 1: if they could be a Chappelle show, but it would 1549 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 1: be interesting if there was a one off, you know, yeah, 1550 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 1: just but it's just so hard because now you. 1551 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,720 Speaker 4: Gotta today's society is a lot different than today, but. 1552 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 1: It's about to change those changes. It's like I think 1553 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,120 Speaker 1: it is. I think that I think that the idea 1554 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 1: of canceled culture is about to be dead. Good people 1555 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: getting frustrated with that. And after a while we went 1556 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,679 Speaker 1: through that stage and you can't say just can't say that, 1557 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 1: but people are getting sick of that. If anybody could, 1558 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 1: if anybody would be able to pull it off. It 1559 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: would be it would be him. But I think that 1560 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be time for us to get back to 1561 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 1: like not concerning ourselves what you think, and but what 1562 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 1: we think is funny and put it out there. 1563 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, I think I read that you, uh, 1564 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,200 Speaker 3: what's the Living Color? 1565 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is kind of I mean before, Yeah, what 1566 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:46,519 Speaker 1: about the Living Color? 1567 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 4: Didn't you audition for that? 1568 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,720 Speaker 1: Audition to it? I did audition for it, but I 1569 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 1: was green. I didn't know what I was doing. I 1570 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,560 Speaker 1: auditioned for that. I was, like I said, when I 1571 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: first started, I came out hogh. But I just I 1572 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 1: was green. I was funny as a stand up that 1573 01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,160 Speaker 1: I had a couple of little quirky little characters and 1574 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 1: things I was doing. It was different from everybody else, 1575 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,559 Speaker 1: but I wasn't. I wasn't ready for a Living Color. 1576 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,760 Speaker 1: Our auditioned for Saturday Night Live. That's where I met 1577 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,759 Speaker 1: Neil and in fact that audition I did a certain 1578 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,680 Speaker 1: Night Live. Tracy Morgan was on that same audition and 1579 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,640 Speaker 1: he got it. I was a guy that told a 1580 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 1: funny story, but it did not understand when they say 1581 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,680 Speaker 1: we need three original characters. What that looked like. I 1582 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,400 Speaker 1: was telling long stories and I remember, uh, Tracy Morgan, 1583 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 1: he did he did a character a black hockey player 1584 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,559 Speaker 1: and it was a very simple character, but he really 1585 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: committed to the character, like he had the little things 1586 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 1: and everything, and I saw he looked like a sketch actor. 1587 01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 3: But I wasn't ready for that yet. But you so, 1588 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,839 Speaker 3: you didn't understand. You understand now and now you probably 1589 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,759 Speaker 3: go on an audition. You understand they sing you the format, 1590 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 3: what they're looking for. You go in there, you know 1591 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 3: what they're looking for. You become back. 1592 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but back back then, I was only getting shots 1593 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: because I was funny as a stand up. But again 1594 01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't trained. I didn't know what I was doing. 1595 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: And that's there was. 1596 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 4: You know. 1597 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 1: When I look back, I was like, Oh, if I 1598 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 1: was prepared for that, I probably could have got it. 1599 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 1: But it wasn't the I've been to. I always say, 1600 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,120 Speaker 1: it's a tortoise in here. I've been a tortoise for 1601 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 1: so long. I don't have I don't have a problem 1602 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 1: with the slow route, how it's going. As long as 1603 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 1: I get my money now to keep going, I'm good. 1604 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 3: Comedy Central moves in a different direction. They do Key 1605 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,800 Speaker 3: and Peel, which does a lot of what you guys 1606 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,960 Speaker 3: were doing. Did you feel any sort of resentment where 1607 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 3: you like, bro y'all, that's us. All they did is 1608 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 3: Key and Peel, But you guys are doing what me 1609 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 3: Chappelle and Charlie Murphy. 1610 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 1: No, I don't, don't. I don't. I don't believe that 1611 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 1: reason why everything has a moment in time. Okay, you're 1612 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,600 Speaker 1: gonna compare it first off, to try to replace that 1613 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,599 Speaker 1: time slot and everything. Of course it's gonna you're gonna 1614 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,560 Speaker 1: compare it. But there's no way. I was just a 1615 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,280 Speaker 1: lot of the Key and Peel stuff coming up on 1616 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,479 Speaker 1: my timeline lately, and I was like, they were some 1617 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: funny They were. They were some funny and it could 1618 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 1: have been reversed. It could have been they could have 1619 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,759 Speaker 1: came before Chappelle Show and it would have been reversed. 1620 01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 1: I think it was a time and thing. I think 1621 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:00,840 Speaker 1: that they was in one of the toughest spots you 1622 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,720 Speaker 1: could be to come behind the show that became so 1623 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,720 Speaker 1: much part of pop culture, and then you all, I know, 1624 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,400 Speaker 1: everywhere they went, they was like, oh, y'all trying to 1625 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,679 Speaker 1: be Chappelle Show. It's sketch comedy, you know what I'm saying, 1626 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 1: and then the sudden to be saying for that. It 1627 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 1: was basically there was two actors that read all these things, 1628 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, and in the moment people are the same 1629 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 1: time slot whatever. But I don't think I don't you know, 1630 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: but it had. 1631 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,479 Speaker 4: To be good because they stayed for the extended period 1632 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 4: of time, so. 1633 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 1: They had to be good. They could just trying to 1634 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 1: prove the point to day we got another nigga, we're going, 1635 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 1: you know how those people. 1636 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:40,519 Speaker 3: Upstairs are let's get say for the sega argument. Chappelle 1637 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 3: show is going, and we got the thing going on 1638 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 3: with Diddy with y'all have poked fun of that. 1639 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,639 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure what we poked fun of Diddy before 1640 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 1: Diddy was Diddy. 1641 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:52,600 Speaker 5: If you. 1642 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,360 Speaker 1: If you noticed Dame played Diddy and he had a 1643 01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,080 Speaker 1: lot of baby on his lips. Here, they over Steve. 1644 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,760 Speaker 3: Knew something that we didn't know. They've knew something now. 1645 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 3: Oil was an come in. They've had one bottle of 1646 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:07,320 Speaker 3: baby old on that scene. 1647 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:07,640 Speaker 4: Take that. 1648 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 1: Take that. Take that, of course it would have, because 1649 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,839 Speaker 1: we would have made fun of the things that's happening 1650 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 1: right now. Well that had been a tough one. 1651 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm trying to figure out, Hold this happen. 1652 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 3: Trafficked a lot of people. You ain't never trafficking nobody. 1653 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 3: I know you're gonna say the right thing right now, right. No, 1654 01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,840 Speaker 3: you're gonna say, ain't no right thing right now, tomorrow, yesterday, No, 1655 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 3: ain't no trafficking going on? 1656 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 1: No. Hello, Can I ask you a question? Yeah? Okay 1657 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 1: you yeah, successful athlete? 1658 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of money, A little bit of money, 1659 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,639 Speaker 3: not a lot. 1660 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,679 Speaker 1: Don't try to downplay it. Got a little bit bunny hopping, 1661 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 1: not just saying. 1662 01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, now, one time in your successful life, 1663 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:10,720 Speaker 3: you have not flown someone in with the intentions of 1664 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,760 Speaker 3: having sexual intercourse. 1665 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:13,560 Speaker 4: With him my girlfriend. 1666 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,840 Speaker 1: You should be a lawyer. God damn you smart. I 1667 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 1: believe it in that. 1668 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,759 Speaker 3: I believe it at death. I believe it at death. Hello, 1669 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 3: is it true you got about you? See between dinny 1670 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 3: and now? I say, first off, first off, first off 1671 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 3: with first off, okay, get to the second part. Okay, 1672 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 3: the second part. 1673 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 1: First off, All right, what I'm trying to tell you 1674 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:39,760 Speaker 1: is all right that what I'm okay, let misplace something. No, no, no, 1675 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 1: I take I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. 1676 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's a photo that's going viral that 1677 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,559 Speaker 1: ten years ago, Shannon, would have been a photo that 1678 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 1: had been iconic and people that wish they was in 1679 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,960 Speaker 1: that picture. It wasn't until after the freak off shit 1680 01:20:54,360 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 1: that now picture looks suspect. But you look at that picture, Shannon, uh, 1681 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,800 Speaker 1: you see it different from me what I saw in 1682 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 1: that picture. First off, I saw eight successful black men. 1683 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,519 Speaker 1: I saw and I was there talking about friendship creating Jennifer. 1684 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,760 Speaker 1: Why between leg can I finished? Goddamn? See what I'm saying? 1685 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 4: Old, let me? Can I get another drink? Because I 1686 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:21,840 Speaker 4: wouldn't hear this door. 1687 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:28,839 Speaker 1: It's just my truth, which is I saw black excellence 1688 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 1: in that picture. 1689 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 4: That's what you saw? 1690 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 1: All right? 1691 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:34,720 Speaker 4: All right? 1692 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 1: This happen? This, this how happened? This how happened? They 1693 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,360 Speaker 1: was hating on me. I was on that boat, that yacht, 1694 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 1: and I was going right, I was really you remember 1695 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 1: what happened. Don't you trying to say, don't do that, 1696 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 1: don't do that, don't do that, don't do that, don't 1697 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 1: do that. Say you were best? I know, I know, 1698 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 1: don't talk about that memory ship all right, I don't 1699 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,840 Speaker 1: buy one of that. I knew exactly what happened, which 1700 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 1: was nothing, but I wasn't it. I knew I was 1701 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I know I was fucked up, 1702 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 1: because then he looked at me like, damn, somebody get 1703 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,640 Speaker 1: this off the boat. I was. 1704 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 4: I was lit. 1705 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 1: And so they was really just they did. Everybody was mad. 1706 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,439 Speaker 1: I was having a good time, and they was trying 1707 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,120 Speaker 1: to take this picture right, and everybody was talling me. 1708 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 1: They were trying to block me out. They was already 1709 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,120 Speaker 1: frustrating with me, right, So I did and this it 1710 01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 1: was a situation like this. I swooped around, went in 1711 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 1: to the front of the picture, and I did like this. 1712 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 1: I did not notice that there was right here behind me, 1713 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: and I, you know what, why you asking me to 1714 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 1: tell you my story and you don't want to hear 1715 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 1: my motherfucker's story, or you could have just said no 1716 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 1: matter what you said. Watch he was in between his 1717 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 1: legs and I wasn't. It was it was the depth camera, people, 1718 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 1: It was the depth of the photo. What do y'all 1719 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,599 Speaker 1: call that ship when it's not focusing, it's blurry? It 1720 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:52,639 Speaker 1: was it was yo, I didn't know I didn't listen. Man, 1721 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,479 Speaker 1: I had a good time in that boat, all right, 1722 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 1: I left. 1723 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 3: I love. 1724 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 1: It ain't it's the difference. That was a family. It 1725 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 1: was family, my sons when I got damn boat. 1726 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 4: All right, see hear me in the picture. 1727 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I mean, see, this is what we're 1728 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,639 Speaker 1: talking black on black crime, right, and this is why 1729 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,240 Speaker 1: I loved you at my standing routine. Now I'm gonna 1730 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:27,600 Speaker 1: get you back. Got Oh, I'm gonna see some videos. 1731 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 1: I was waiting for this. Let's go. No no, no, 1732 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,759 Speaker 1: it's too lame. Don't compeplate now it's all the popping. 1733 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 1: Come on, can't no, no, can't, come on, come on. 1734 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 1: I got a whole twenty minutes. 1735 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,120 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, but look, in all seriousness, what 1736 01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,000 Speaker 4: you have defended. 1737 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 1: I did defend. 1738 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,000 Speaker 4: I defended who the parties that you didn't know what? 1739 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,719 Speaker 1: First off, it's at different parties, all right, right, you can't. 1740 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,559 Speaker 3: I didn't defend no party. I defended what that was, 1741 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 3: all right, and that was. 1742 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:00,880 Speaker 1: Family or in it. 1743 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 4: But you don't remember a whole lot that, you know what. 1744 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 1: Let me get a drinks because I'm not gonna let 1745 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,640 Speaker 1: you do this. I'm not gonna let you do this. 1746 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,000 Speaker 1: I am not defending. What I'm saying is, of course 1747 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 1: there have been freak afs, and of course, how you 1748 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:22,479 Speaker 1: know I read the same blogs you read. I read. 1749 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:28,559 Speaker 1: How god damn you just think it turned to a lawyer. No, 1750 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, where it is on the streets, Okay, right, 1751 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,360 Speaker 1: everybody know it's freak afs. Everybody know Hollywood is Hollywood. 1752 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't understand why all these motherfuckers are like, oh 1753 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 1: my god, they had a mansion party and they had 1754 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 1: cocaine and all these orgy drugs and circh. Why people 1755 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not saying you got to be a 1756 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 1: part of it, but why is this this whole thing? 1757 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 1: It's like, I can't believe they were doing that in Hollywood. 1758 01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,640 Speaker 1: And I understand Cat Wims came up here and it's 1759 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 1: part of I said, Cat Wims on this couch for 1760 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,240 Speaker 1: three hours in his feet, never touched the ground. 1761 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 3: That's the first thing I said. I didn't y'all didn't 1762 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 3: see the same thing I saw. Y'all didn't see that. 1763 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't give up. 1764 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,960 Speaker 3: Why did you Am I scared of Cat Williams? No 1765 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 3: for what he probably come back, start your year off right. 1766 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,519 Speaker 1: But I noticed my feet was like this the whole time. 1767 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,599 Speaker 1: And I told him and and I don't disrespect him whatever, 1768 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 1: but I and part of my ten I said, cat 1769 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,160 Speaker 1: wasn't a funny, but everybody think it was funny. You 1770 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,400 Speaker 1: was the funniest because it didn't matter what the cat 1771 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,679 Speaker 1: wims said. You said, Oh, come on, cat, you can't 1772 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:32,080 Speaker 1: see that. 1773 01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,599 Speaker 3: I'm like, he just said it. Give me a card, 1774 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 3: Give me a card. You was like this, Oh, come on, cat, No, 1775 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,880 Speaker 3: ca't come come. Oh cat, come on now, cat. Oh 1776 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,080 Speaker 3: he ain't gonna that dagger o cat, these my friends. Cat, 1777 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 3: Now come on, cat, cat cat cat cat cat cat 1778 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 3: cat cat cat. 1779 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:53,040 Speaker 1: O choe ochoe ochoeoe. Hey sipep o choe. See the 1780 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 1: difference between me and you is you were your watch 1781 01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:03,680 Speaker 1: to tell died and I wasn't every party did he had? 1782 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:08,640 Speaker 1: And I wasn't at too many. Okay, wait, I was 1783 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 1: at how you helping? You're the camera man, man? 1784 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:17,120 Speaker 3: What you doing? 1785 01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying I don't know that side of it. 1786 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And I'm not defending anything. What 1787 01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:29,639 Speaker 1: I'm defending what that incident was. He does a party 1788 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 1: every Christmas holiday, Saint Mark, Sat Barton, Saint Martin, Sat 1789 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Bart's whatever it is. 1790 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,800 Speaker 4: And it was a gift change. 1791 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,840 Speaker 1: We had dinner. Okay, no gifts was changed. It was 1792 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 1: just a vibe. 1793 01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:43,920 Speaker 4: Okay. 1794 01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 1: I was there. We was vacational with day. It was 1795 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,040 Speaker 1: a vibe. We went over there. It was a vibe. 1796 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,200 Speaker 1: And the thing I'm gonna tell you, the thing that 1797 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:53,000 Speaker 1: I did like about it that party was that Kimora 1798 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 1: was there. 1799 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1800 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:58,960 Speaker 1: Uh, kim Porter was there. My baby mother was there. Uh, 1801 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 1: Dave's it was there. And I was one of the 1802 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,880 Speaker 1: only thing I saw And I don't know what happened 1803 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,920 Speaker 1: to anything else. What I saw was a vibe. Okay, 1804 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,000 Speaker 1: what I saw was a good thing. And that's what 1805 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Anytime you say anything about all you're defending. 1806 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm not defending. I don't know nothing about the free parties, 1807 01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:18,519 Speaker 1: but I do know, right, thank you, Nah, because you're 1808 01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,200 Speaker 1: about to get crazy. No, I can tell you. I 1809 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 1: gotta get lose what I'm saying, go ahead and say it. 1810 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:30,360 Speaker 1: That's how Diddy parties taught, right. I'm just saying, not going. 1811 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,360 Speaker 1: I know you're about to say some ship. Yeah, that's 1812 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,280 Speaker 1: how it gets. You take the time off throwing your 1813 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,800 Speaker 1: shit around. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying was 1814 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,679 Speaker 1: what I know was that was family joint and was cool. 1815 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 1: People can make out what they try to make it 1816 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,200 Speaker 1: to say what it was. That's not what it was 1817 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,680 Speaker 1: for me. That's what I'm not here. 1818 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 4: You know, I cast no judgment. I don't look at 1819 01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 4: you with judge the eyes. That's your story. 1820 01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:57,880 Speaker 1: If you could do a close up, those are very 1821 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:02,000 Speaker 1: judge your eyes, yo, you're judy and ship. Anytime you 1822 01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 1: tell your glasses off and wipe your ship off, don 1823 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 1: judge your eyes back. Cause I've been crying that you 1824 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 1: hit me up your cry. I'm just saying it is 1825 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,760 Speaker 1: what it is. I know I said no Diddy, Yeah 1826 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,200 Speaker 1: I said it, so so you know he coming home right. 1827 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't look Honestly, I don't 1828 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 3: pay attention to that stuff. 1829 01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:21,840 Speaker 1: I know you don't. 1830 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 3: I don't because it I'm sorry for the people that 1831 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,360 Speaker 3: was impacted by it, But that ain't got nothing to 1832 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 3: do with me, man. I ain't never. I ain't never 1833 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 3: been to nobody's house. Fuck you asked me cause you 1834 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 3: the picture. No, you could have just if you really 1835 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:35,760 Speaker 3: using a picture like if. 1836 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,800 Speaker 1: You I wouldn't like that said, I wasn't like that. 1837 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 3: I was. 1838 01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 1: I was in it like this. I was like, I 1839 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:42,679 Speaker 1: wasn't like the most interesting man. 1840 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:43,040 Speaker 2: In the world. 1841 01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,479 Speaker 1: So I was like this, I was doing real ship. 1842 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 1: Who wanted to drink? That's what I did. 1843 01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 3: But it was the fact that you between the man 1844 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,600 Speaker 3: lands though that last one. 1845 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:56,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't it between us. He was right there, Yeah, 1846 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,760 Speaker 1: I was right here you but you laid down. I 1847 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:03,720 Speaker 1: wasn't like, I ain't even know he was back there. 1848 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 1: How you not know he was back there? You snuck 1849 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,720 Speaker 1: in the picture? Think this is what I just said. 1850 01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,360 Speaker 1: All these people right here, Yes, I can't see who 1851 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 1: in the front shaying I can't see who in the front, 1852 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,400 Speaker 1: So I run around the side. I couldn't see. I 1853 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:18,080 Speaker 1: don't even know it's it. 1854 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:23,160 Speaker 3: I turned an It just so happens. You photo bomb 1855 01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:24,959 Speaker 3: and you between the man legs. 1856 01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 1: That's you know what a photo bomb? And I was 1857 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,439 Speaker 1: in an awkward position. You don't got to say between 1858 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,360 Speaker 1: some bouts that's you needed. You got the wrong word play. 1859 01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 1: I photo bomb and was in a situation with people 1860 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 1: to perceive to be very suspect or as a kid say, 1861 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,200 Speaker 1: sus that's what it was. You could take How. 1862 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,720 Speaker 3: Would you perceive it if you look, if you and 1863 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,880 Speaker 3: not if you're not the person that's how would you 1864 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:47,439 Speaker 3: perceive it? 1865 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 1: I would look at if I saw that picture, Yeah, 1866 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,679 Speaker 1: I would say, you know what it looks like. Black 1867 01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,479 Speaker 1: excellence is in this photo right, and these guys are 1868 01:29:55,520 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 1: having a good time, and then slipped into a compromiser. 1869 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:05,759 Speaker 1: SPI sistrict. That's what I did. Say, no further questions. 1870 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,479 Speaker 3: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two 1871 01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,759 Speaker 3: is also posted and you can access it to whichever 1872 01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,280 Speaker 3: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just 1873 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,160 Speaker 3: simply go back to Club Shasha profile and I'll see 1874 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 3: you there.