Speaker 1: I saw this on the internet.
Speaker 2: It's a tweet from Mohammed Safa, a dude out of
Speaker 2: New York, said, no immigrant has taken your job. You
Speaker 2: were laid off by a capitalist who required cheap labor
Speaker 2: and took advantage of that immigrant to increase its profit.
Speaker 2: Nothing makes him happier than hearing you blame the immigrant
Speaker 2: and not him. It made me think of a Malcolm
Speaker 2: X quote that has always rained in my head whenever
Speaker 2: I think about immigrant, black and brown unity, this being
Speaker 2: Asian Pacific Islander Month. When I think about all those
Speaker 2: things in relation to the plight of being a specifically
Speaker 2: anti black sentiment across the world that even some of
Speaker 2: these other communities can carry, I think of this quote
Speaker 2: for Malcolm X that says, if you're not careful, the
Speaker 2: newspapers will have you hating the people who are being
Speaker 2: oppressed and loving the people doing the oppressing.
Speaker 1: Because that's what that quote reminded me of.
Speaker 2: Not careful, this news will have you thinking another poor
Speaker 2: person is the person keeping you poor, that another oppressed
Speaker 2: group is doing your pressing. Now, I can't tell or
Speaker 2: promise you that there's some sort of big, sinister plot
Speaker 2: that all the rich people in the world, sit around
Speaker 2: and had a meeting, and all followed the same same
Speaker 2: rule book. But it did make me think, have y'all
Speaker 2: ever heard of Willie Lynch letter? Let me put y'all
Speaker 2: on game hood politics. I imagine you don't need me
Speaker 2: to tell you anything about the one hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: ninth and two hundred mass shooting just this year. Right,
Speaker 2: and you probably have seen enough of this footage and
Speaker 2: heard enough of this story, and you know the broken record.
Speaker 2: You already know how this is gonna go. We're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about mental health and gun reform, and these fools
Speaker 2: ain't gonna do shit, and it's just gonna be yet
Speaker 2: another you're gonna hear that again, yet another. Right, and well,
Speaker 2: it's not the guns, it's mental health. Well, it's not
Speaker 2: mental health, it's the guns. Well, maybe it's both, dumb
Speaker 2: ass like and even if it's not the guns and
Speaker 2: it's the mental health, Okay, what are you gonna do
Speaker 2: about mental health?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: You what are your plans? Oh, you ain't got one,
Speaker 2: but then shut shut up? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you take away guns, okay? Cool?
Speaker 2: Like all right, so you know you took away the guns.
Speaker 2: Now what are you gonna do about mentealth. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like y'all, y'all already know all
Speaker 2: this stuff, y'all need like you know the role of
Speaker 2: hood politics is to help you know that you understand
Speaker 2: more than you give yourself credit for.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I'm more interested in how we as can folk can
Speaker 2: dialogue around this. So I want to introduce you to
Speaker 2: the Willie Lynch theory. Willie Lanz there, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to get into its history, its origins, the veracity of
Speaker 2: it and what that got to do with us. But
Speaker 2: I want to talk about it around not only does
Speaker 2: mass shootings, but also the ending of Title forty two,
Speaker 2: which is what was a COVID restriction, and what Title
Speaker 2: forty two said was because of COVID health emergency, we
Speaker 2: were in if you came seeking asylum, we didn't have
Speaker 2: to take you in because we can stop you at
Speaker 2: the border because of health restrictions.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Ending of it changes the way that asylum works. Asylum
Speaker 2: has worked in a number of different ways, but mostly
Speaker 2: asylum is a legal port of entry. You're fleeing a country,
Speaker 2: you're making an asylum claim, and generally how it's been
Speaker 2: for a while. Is it's called catch and release in
Speaker 2: some ways, in the sense that like, okay, I know
Speaker 2: the term sounds terrible, but it's kind of like this.
Speaker 2: You get here, clearly you're in distress. Okay, won't you
Speaker 2: just chill right here because I'm not going to send you.
Speaker 1: Back to chaos.
Speaker 2: Just chill right here, hold on while we get your
Speaker 2: paperwork together and see if you could stay for if
Speaker 2: you could stay for good.
Speaker 1: Kick it right here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's almost like triaging, like let's stop the bleeding first. Now,
Speaker 2: don't don't let me explain this as if this is
Speaker 2: some sort of morally good and humane way of doing things.
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing at the border humane unless you got NGOs
Speaker 2: down there making it humane. But besides that, shout out
Speaker 2: preemptive love and search your common ground organizations I work with.
Speaker 2: But you get in there, you wait for your asylum
Speaker 2: case and sometimes, as you know, if you know any immigrants, man,
Speaker 2: that mug can take years. So while that's happening, you
Speaker 2: just like your life not on hold. You have a sponsor,
Speaker 2: you know somebody here, or you just go. You got
Speaker 2: to go while you're waiting for your asylum claim and
Speaker 2: sometimes that's not un till like four years. And at
Speaker 2: that point, I mean, you got a whole ass life here.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You probably had children, right,
Speaker 2: you done got married, so you know, you kind of
Speaker 2: build a life. But again, you're seeking asylum. You're not
Speaker 2: here illegally, you're actually waiting for your trial.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's this limbo that actually I think Embedded did a
Speaker 2: whole story on this, like this limbo of like you're here,
Speaker 2: but you're not actually here in the eyes of the law.
Speaker 2: You still haven't crossed the border. In the eyes of
Speaker 2: the law, you're still on a boat five miles outside
Speaker 2: of our shores. So you have no legal protections because
Speaker 2: you're not technically here yet, which is absurd. That's why
Speaker 2: I was like, don't act like this is humane, jo
Speaker 2: say it. But that's the process of seeking asylum.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: In addition to that, what these new laws are saying
Speaker 2: is what you'd have to do to seek asylum is
Speaker 2: you have to prove to me that you've tried at
Speaker 2: another place, that you've you've gone to another country and
Speaker 2: you've tried to get asylum there on your way here.
Speaker 2: We can't be the first person you asked is this
Speaker 2: is this is our law. And if we the first
Speaker 2: person you asked, we're gonna send you back to the
Speaker 2: first country that you try to get into and say
Speaker 2: you need to talk to them first. Because, much to
Speaker 2: the chagrin of the you know, right wing I hate
Speaker 2: immigrants circle, and I'm gonna get into how that circle
Speaker 2: sometimes be their own folk. If you if you be
Speaker 2: around some immigrant circles, you know what I'm saying, Me
Speaker 2: around my first gen Mexican wife living in the Mexican
Speaker 2: side of town, it's a plenty of foods that we
Speaker 2: could say, skin folk and kim folk. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, somehow feel like they better than you because
Speaker 2: they family got in it earlier.
Speaker 1: Like but listen, let me leave that alone. I'm putting
Speaker 1: my opinion in here.
Speaker 2: That's an experience I ain't had, so let me you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, let me, let me, let me,
Speaker 2: let me fall back. But they like the fact that
Speaker 2: you could just kind of be here. It was the
Speaker 2: way to like trick the system if you could just oh,
Speaker 2: just go and claim asylum. It takes like ten years
Speaker 2: to get a case anyway, So at that point you
Speaker 2: don't have kids. I mean, you can't leave now, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like you're children born here. So
Speaker 2: it's this like mixed message that's like, yo, don't come here,
Speaker 2: but come here. It's also a mixed message to the coyotes, right,
Speaker 2: like so if I'm gonna snuggle you into the country
Speaker 2: once I get you to the border, just go there
Speaker 2: and just say you claim an asylum.
Speaker 1: You good, give me my two g's. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now.
Speaker 2: Of course, there's exception to that, like you have to
Speaker 2: have applied somewhere else. Rule one is Mexico. There is
Speaker 2: no other country in between here, so there's a particular
Speaker 2: exception from them. And there's also an exception to people
Speaker 2: to countries that we just don't like. Like if you
Speaker 2: come in here from Russia because we don't like Russia,
Speaker 2: you feel me you got a better chance. I know,
Speaker 2: I absurd, that sounds, but this is the system anyway.
Speaker 2: Title forty two is removing the COVID restrictions that were
Speaker 2: a good cover for just some blatant anti immigrant just
Speaker 2: hate moving. You say, well, I hate illegal immigration. Well
Speaker 2: we're not even talking about it. This is you're not
Speaker 2: listening to us issue these are asylum seekers. That's a
Speaker 2: perfectly legal way to get into the country. So I
Speaker 2: don't even know what you're talking about. What you're talking
Speaker 2: about illegal immigration is not what we're talking about. We
Speaker 2: talking about asylums. But since our system is just so
Speaker 2: wrought with inefficiencies and of course racism, there's so many
Speaker 2: ways to exploit it. Now I don't have an answer
Speaker 2: to none of this. Shout out to Homie justin I
Speaker 2: have no answers to none of these questions. But these
Speaker 2: are just the situations at our border. Now you couple
Speaker 2: that with the fact that the shooter at this mall
Speaker 2: down at Allen, Texas was a Latino man, which some
Speaker 2: people would make you say, well, clearly it's not a
Speaker 2: race thing or that. See, we told you these illegal
Speaker 2: immigrants are the problem, right, which both are absurd statements
Speaker 2: for a number of reasons. One because Homie had the
Speaker 2: you know, the RWDS little patch on it, which stands
Speaker 2: for right wing Death Squad. And also just look at
Speaker 2: his social media. He didn't he's bought in. So I
Speaker 2: want to talk to you all about something that it's
Speaker 2: almost like this is some free game for you to
Speaker 2: help you get your brain around a few conversations so
Speaker 2: that like when you talk about these things, you talk
Speaker 2: about them with a calibrated temperament that is steeped in
Speaker 2: a lived experience of persons of colors. You following me here, like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna really get my teacher on right now. People
Speaker 2: always accusing people who work in the justice space communities
Speaker 2: of colors that we're always making it about race, while
Speaker 2: you're always making it about race. You're that wasn't even
Speaker 2: you're making it about race. This isn't about race. And
Speaker 2: then since they believe we're making it about race, it's
Speaker 2: like we tend to find race everywhere. You're like environmental racism, Like,
Speaker 2: what the are you telling me that you're telling me
Speaker 2: the tornadoes racist?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying. You're saying floods are racist?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, even the nature's even, So you're
Speaker 2: saying the weather's racist, right, that's what that would be
Speaker 2: the accusation. And of course that sounds stupid, right, But
Speaker 2: you know me, maybe I'm gonna give my little analogy.
Speaker 2: Maybe you could think of it like this, If you
Speaker 2: are gonna go fishing, like off a pier down to
Speaker 2: Santa Monica. You know, so ocean right, salt water, it's
Speaker 2: the ocean. It's a pretty safe bet to think that
Speaker 2: anything that comes out of comes on your hook and
Speaker 2: out of that body of water is a salt water animal.
Speaker 2: It's a salt water creature. Now, I'm pretty sure there's
Speaker 2: some of you people that are smarter than me that
Speaker 2: can tell me that there are some things that can
Speaker 2: live in both or that are actually fresh water. They
Speaker 2: just happen to have. I don't know, maybe maybe you're
Speaker 2: smarter than maybe it is. I'm just thinking it's a
Speaker 2: pretty good bet to think that if I got it
Speaker 2: out of a salt water body of water, it's going
Speaker 2: to be a salt water creature. It's kind of the
Speaker 2: same with a racist system. Whatever you build inside of
Speaker 2: a racist system is going to be calibrated towards that
Speaker 2: racism or it won't survive.
Speaker 1: It's just it's so I'm not finding it everywhere.
Speaker 2: The system requires racism for it's a function the way
Speaker 2: it's been functioning here.
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's an example back to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure the floods are not racist, but what are
Speaker 2: where the laws around redlining and zoning that left poor
Speaker 2: communities and communities of color being neglected for infrastructure upgrades
Speaker 2: and changes because our zip codes counted towards low income
Speaker 2: and you know, and zip code is just like a
Speaker 2: coded way of saying black neighborhood, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: or a brown neighborhood. And of course I'm speaking in
Speaker 2: terms of intersectionality because I know that social class and
Speaker 2: race are separate things but also overlapped. But that's because
Speaker 2: I understand critical race theory. So those zip codes say that, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like our levees, the levees haven't been serviced in our
Speaker 2: in our part of town for a long time. Our
Speaker 2: streets have not been updated, our pipes have not been cleaned.
Speaker 2: There's trash inside of our gutters because the city, because
Speaker 2: of a legacy of racist laws that you know, rent
Speaker 2: lined us out and zoned us out to a certain thing.
Speaker 2: Jerry Manderin that says that, like, you know, this particular
Speaker 2: district has this particular more money, So I'm gonna work
Speaker 2: more specifically towards this particular district because it was more
Speaker 2: advantageous for them. When these natural disasters happened, Yes, they
Speaker 2: hit black, brown, and underserved neighborhoods worse. It's the same water,
Speaker 2: but you haven't been taken care of us because of
Speaker 2: your racism. So yeah, that's what happens. Yes, black people
Speaker 2: can't swim. Well, you know, we weren't allowed into public pools.
Speaker 2: We got kicked off of beaches. Who I mean we okay?
Speaker 2: So no, it's like these are things that are part
Speaker 2: of everyone. How come your family don't have you know,
Speaker 2: ask your grandfather to invest in your business. Well, my
Speaker 2: granddaddy didn't get land to Homestead Act. Like what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to tell you is like it's in the system.
Speaker 2: What was the Homestead Act? Well, it was the end
Speaker 2: of the Civil War. The country was broke. We needed
Speaker 2: to give these land grants to these new plots of
Speaker 2: land we had out west. Right, those land grants were
Speaker 2: given to white peasant families. Only black people couldn't get it.
Speaker 2: The government gave them a leg up. You had farms
Speaker 2: given to you by the government. So I don't know
Speaker 2: what you mean. That's what I mean by in the system.
Speaker 2: Were you telling me land grants are racist? I'm saying
Speaker 2: it grew out of a racist system. So yes, they
Speaker 2: only gave it to white folks. I mean, it's in
Speaker 2: the water. If credits scores are given to people based
Speaker 2: on whether they can own a home and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I might loan you one thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: but if you see that I'm trying, I'm from this
Speaker 2: zip code, trying to get.
Speaker 1: Into that zip code.
Speaker 2: You're gonna charge me sixteen percent, eighteen percent, but charge
Speaker 2: somebody else five percent, right, or just not give me
Speaker 2: the loan at all because you looked at that zip code.
Speaker 2: You know who's in that zip code, and now we
Speaker 2: can't get into that house because that zip code doesn't
Speaker 2: want a lot of black people in it. It's in
Speaker 2: the system, y'all. I'm not making this shit up. That's
Speaker 2: how it works. So yeah, I'm seeing it everywhere because
Speaker 2: it is everywhere. It affects every area of my life,
Speaker 2: which ain't my choice. I wish it didn't. That's the
Speaker 2: next point I want to bring up is that because
Speaker 2: of this type of institution, we've built communities of color
Speaker 2: and white people for that matter, but I think mostly
Speaker 2: communities of color. I'll explain how this affects white folks too,
Speaker 2: but I think communities we're our identities are so flattened
Speaker 2: that we're expected to speak for all of us the
Speaker 2: type of dynamic just normal ass being a normal, dynamic
Speaker 2: human is with complicated thoughts and feelings and experiences. It's
Speaker 2: just not awarded to us because there's this big gaze
Speaker 2: of gazes and eyes y'all of like our identities being
Speaker 2: a political unit for which our rights are measured against.
Speaker 2: That's just that's how a racist system works, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's not that what I want. So then you say, well,
Speaker 2: then why are you creating laws? We're trying to fix
Speaker 2: the we're calibrating the problem, Like it's because I'm trying
Speaker 2: to fix the problem, Like does that make sense? And
Speaker 2: I think with white folks, it's like that's why you're
Speaker 2: always like, damn, not all white people. My answers didn't
Speaker 2: hold slaves. Those are just racist fucks. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: because we're in a system that flattens you too, that
Speaker 2: took white people and created whiteness.
Speaker 1: You're stuck in it too, don't you understand?
Speaker 2: You're a victim too, you know how I know, go
Speaker 2: into any rural community, going to any poor white trailer park,
Speaker 2: toughest nails sawmill, working coal mine. They like, look, this
Speaker 2: whiteness ain't help me at all. Like they like, look,
Speaker 2: these people don't love me neither they understand that like
Speaker 2: na them niggas don't speak for me. But what the
Speaker 2: system has done is which gets me to what I'm
Speaker 2: about to talk about, is to say, rather than be
Speaker 2: mad at the people causing that or the institution that
Speaker 2: is causing that, you mad at immigrants, you mad at
Speaker 2: black people.
Speaker 1: And your cheerleader, your.
Speaker 2: Champion, is this man Donald Trump and this right wing
Speaker 2: conservative people that is telling you that them mother colored
Speaker 2: folks is your problem. You know, you one of us.
Speaker 2: We want to save America for you. And what your
Speaker 2: answer should be is, well, when you're gonna start doing that,
Speaker 2: I'm my my daddy and my granddaddy and his granddaddy
Speaker 2: before that been working these minds. I know our lot
Speaker 2: ain't changed. So what what what America you saving? You
Speaker 2: should be looking at it and being like, Hey, this
Speaker 2: Filipino immigrant that I'm sharing this number four with extra
Speaker 2: fries with because that's the only money that we got.
Speaker 2: That man got black lung, like I do. Where are
Speaker 2: my healthcare at? Like? Where are my job training? I
Speaker 2: mean if we're not gonna stop electric cars from happening.
Speaker 2: When you go, I mean you were trying to save
Speaker 2: our jobs, nigging, Like what's up with the training? You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like we're doing all this cold?
Speaker 2: What's up with my like, what's up with my lung cancer?
Speaker 1: Stuff? Like you're not really helping me, are you?
Speaker 2: When you're gonna make us great, you're gonna pick us
Speaker 2: over them, when you're gonna come pick us, that's you
Speaker 2: should be saying. But as Malcolm X said, listen, if
Speaker 2: we're not careful, he say, newspapers because that was his time.
Speaker 1: You had them.
Speaker 2: Newspapers will have an oppressed person hating another oppressed person
Speaker 2: instead of day oppressor. Let's talk about the Willy Lynch
Speaker 2: papers next. All right, let me get to it and
Speaker 2: tie this all up together. Now. The Willie Lynch letter
Speaker 2: is Willie Lynch Letter and the making of a slave. Now,
Speaker 2: this was reported to be done by a man named
Speaker 2: William Lynch who was supposedly in seventeen twelve gave this speech.
Speaker 2: He was from the Caribbean, from Haiti, and supposedly this
Speaker 2: was like the basically the owner's manual to how to
Speaker 2: break a slave. Now the letter has been essentially debunked
Speaker 2: in the sense that.
Speaker 1: It's probably not what it purports to be.
Speaker 2: Now, some would use the term hoax, right, And it's
Speaker 2: kind of because of there's some language in there that
Speaker 2: wouldn't match the year seventeen twelve that clearly comes from
Speaker 2: another time. But it started popping up around the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: I remember my dad used to talk to me about
Speaker 2: it and about the process again of breaking a slave
Speaker 2: and making your property submit.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's a really hard read, but here's an introduction. The
Speaker 2: infamous Willie Lynch letters gives both African and Caucasian students
Speaker 2: and teachers some insight concerning the brutal, humane psychology behind
Speaker 2: the African slave trade. The materialistic viewpoint of the Southern
Speaker 2: plantation owners is that slavery was a business and the
Speaker 2: victims of chavel slavery were mere ponds in an economic
Speaker 2: game of the bauchery, crossbreeding, interracial rape, and mental conditioning
Speaker 2: of the Neegord race that they considered subhuman.
Speaker 1: Now, I want you to get this point.
Speaker 2: Whether this is factual or not, is not the point
Speaker 2: that I'm bringing up, because I think there's a good
Speaker 2: case to say that, Yeah, like, there's usually the way
Speaker 2: that history works. There's usually not one like master document
Speaker 2: or owner's manual that would set up and be the
Speaker 2: guide for multinational, multi generational system in multiple countries, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, my lord, Like, there would have been volumes
Speaker 2: and volumes of academic scrutiny around this thing.
Speaker 1: Were it what it proposed to be.
Speaker 2: Now that being said, if it came up in the seventies,
Speaker 2: I don't know who actually wrote this thing, but that's
Speaker 2: not even the point of this pod. But you have
Speaker 2: to remember what was happening in the time of the seventies, right,
Speaker 2: you know, post Civil rights, black power movement, you know,
Speaker 2: after the Wars, and you know, the advent of a
Speaker 2: lot of like violence in inner city streets, and this
Speaker 2: new type of black love was re emerging. So when
Speaker 2: you look at the content that I'm about to tell
Speaker 2: y'all about a little more, and you lined up next
Speaker 2: to first hand accounts from slaves, right, it's hard not
Speaker 2: to think because of the way that all these different
Speaker 2: accounts from all these different plantations across the Americas, it's
Speaker 2: hard to not feel like, damn, like, are y'all all
Speaker 2: reading from the same book.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right? You know, like how black people, you know, always
Speaker 2: be like, yo, it's a conspiracy.
Speaker 1: It's the man keeping us down.
Speaker 2: It's hard to not feel like that because of how
Speaker 2: much of these systems all work together.
Speaker 1: It's like, damn, it's like, do y'all all sit around
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: Table when you look at the types of stories and
Speaker 2: first hand accounts and not only from written but you
Speaker 2: know at the time you talk about like your great
Speaker 2: grandma and them stories that you heard from your own family.
Speaker 1: When you place them all together.
Speaker 2: Even if this is this was a tool for teaching,
Speaker 2: and it was fictionalized for the purpose of understanding something
Speaker 2: that would communicate a truth to us now, then it
Speaker 2: wouldn't make sense. It's not so much that it's a hoax,
Speaker 2: but it's a way of fictionalizing and encapsulating things that
Speaker 2: are clear we're happening to us and still affect us. Now,
Speaker 2: are you following me? There were lessons. I feel like
Speaker 2: the people at the time when this thing came out
Speaker 2: was trying to communicate to a younger generation or to
Speaker 2: a modern time that given the information we have from slavery,
Speaker 2: if I were to compile it it would seem like
Speaker 2: this is what's happening you following me, So let me
Speaker 2: give you some of the meat of it. So again,
Speaker 2: the speech was delivered by a slave owner, William Lynch,
Speaker 2: on the banks of the James River in seventeen twelve.
Speaker 2: That's what the document claims. Now, like I said, whether
Speaker 2: that's true or not, probably not. But this is this
Speaker 2: is where we're getting this from. So here check this out.
Speaker 1: Here's the instruments.
Speaker 2: Gentlemen, I greet you on the banks of James River
Speaker 2: of the year of our Lord Oney seven hundred and twelve.
Speaker 2: First of all, I shall thank you, the gentleman of
Speaker 2: the Colony of Virginia for bringing me here. I am
Speaker 2: here to solve some of your problems for slaves. Your
Speaker 2: invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies,
Speaker 2: and I have experienced some of the newest and still
Speaker 2: the oldest methods of control of slaves. An ancient Rome
Speaker 2: would envy the program I've implemented. So here's some of
Speaker 2: the things that he says he's implemented. Right, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: skim through this thing because now you can download it
Speaker 2: and read it yourself.
Speaker 1: But guys, I mean, it's it's really brutal.
Speaker 2: So the idea is, he's like, I need to break
Speaker 2: them mentally, psychologically, and emotionally, and if you break them
Speaker 2: correctly like a horse, they'll follow you forever. Right, And
Speaker 2: one of the main things he says is like, this
Speaker 2: is a direct quote. Now again he again, the veracity
Speaker 2: of this is a whole other story. We're gonna get
Speaker 2: to the point as to why and why this is
Speaker 2: important to us. After I tell you all this stuff,
Speaker 2: it says, Look, it don't forget. You must pitch the
Speaker 2: old black male versus the young black male, and the
Speaker 2: young black male against the old black male. You must
Speaker 2: use the dark skinned slaves versus the light skinned slaves,
Speaker 2: and the light skin slaves versus the dark skinned slaves.
Speaker 2: You must use the female versus the male, and the
Speaker 2: male versus the female. You must also have your white
Speaker 2: servants and overseers distrust all blacks. But it is necessary
Speaker 2: your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love
Speaker 2: and respect and trust only us.
Speaker 1: And then he gives these kits on how to create
Speaker 1: that thing.
Speaker 2: Right, y'all catch that he's saying he wants your white
Speaker 2: peasants to distrust black people. But you want your black
Speaker 2: people to trust them white peasants. That's how you create
Speaker 2: order me Let me keep going for you. Now here's
Speaker 2: a side note from the Black Arcade Liberation Library in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy. They say it was in the interest and
Speaker 2: business of slaveholders to study human nature, and the slave
Speaker 2: nature in particular, with a view to practical results. Many
Speaker 2: of them attained astonished proficiency in this direction. They had
Speaker 2: to deal not with earth, wood and stone, but with men,
Speaker 2: and they, by every regard they had known for the
Speaker 2: safety and prosperity, they had need to know the material
Speaker 2: on which they were to work. Now here's a quote
Speaker 2: from Frederick Douglas. He says, conscious of the injustice and wrong,
Speaker 2: they were every hour perpetuating, knowing what they themselves would
Speaker 2: do were they victims of such wrongs. They were constantly
Speaker 2: looking for the first signs of dread retribution. They watched.
Speaker 2: Therefore with skilled eyes, practice eyes learned to read with
Speaker 2: great accuracy the state of mind and heart of a slave.
Speaker 2: Though his stable face unusual, sobriety, apparent abstraction, sullenness and indifference. Indeed,
Speaker 2: any mood out of the common way afforded ground for
Speaker 2: suspicion and inquiry, which means this, they know for a
Speaker 2: fact what they're doing is wrong. So and they know
Speaker 2: what they would do if they were being treated like this.
Speaker 2: So you got to watch carefully because if these people
Speaker 2: actually figure out that we are defeatable, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So since you know what you're doing is wrong, you
Speaker 2: better break these people right, and I mean break them bad.
Speaker 2: Let me pull another quote. He says, we hold six
Speaker 2: cardinal principles as truths to be self evident based on
Speaker 2: the following discourse concerning the economic breaking and trying of
Speaker 2: these horses. Breaking and trying of the horse and the
Speaker 2: nigger together, all inclusive, are the six principles laid out above.
Speaker 2: Note neither principle alone will suffice for good economics, and
Speaker 2: all principles must be employed in an orderly and good fashion. Accordingly,
Speaker 2: both wild horse and wild or natural nigger is dangerous
Speaker 2: even if captured, and will tendency to seek their own
Speaker 2: customary freedom. So in doing so you cannot rest. So
Speaker 2: you got to break them right. So it says we
Speaker 2: revise nature by burning and pulling one civilized nigger apart
Speaker 2: and bull whipping another to the point of death. This
Speaker 2: is how you break a woman in her presence right
Speaker 2: continually through the breaking of uncivilized savage niggers. By throwing
Speaker 2: the nigger female savage into a frozen psychological state of independency,
Speaker 2: by killing the protective male image, by creating a submissive,
Speaker 2: independent mind of the.
Speaker 1: Nigger male savage.
Speaker 2: We have created and orbiting cycles that turns on its
Speaker 2: own access forever unless a phenomenon occurs that reshifts the
Speaker 2: position of the female savages.
Speaker 1: We show what we mean by example.
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna subject y'all to the rest of this,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna give you the gist of it. So
Speaker 2: you break the family apart, You make the woman feel
Speaker 2: isolated and solo. You convince a man that he cannot
Speaker 2: protect his family. He is helpless without the help of
Speaker 2: the overseer. There is nothing you can do. I can
Speaker 2: rape your girl, don't matter. You're not a man. I
Speaker 2: could take your children and sell them to another place.
Speaker 2: You're not a man, right, And watch me treat the
Speaker 2: light skin ones better, do you know what I'm saying? So,
Speaker 2: and while you watching me treat the light skin one's better,
Speaker 2: the light skin ones start thinking they actually better than
Speaker 2: the darkness house niggas and field niggas. Then there's a
Speaker 2: third part that I'm not gonna get fully into, but
Speaker 2: you con sert it your own time. It's this idea
Speaker 2: of giving somebody a puddle of mud dividing your room up,
Speaker 2: and then say, I'm letting you have this puddle of mud,
Speaker 2: and you gotta protect it from those other people. Now,
Speaker 2: were all fighting over this little piece of freedom, But
Speaker 2: that little piece of freedom, that little plot of land,
Speaker 2: is just it's just mud.
Speaker 1: Why are we fighting over this? Now?
Speaker 2: You take this, this letter, this whole thing that's probably
Speaker 2: a hoax, but more likely an allegory, and you play
Speaker 2: that into the nineteen seventies, where you have us living
Speaker 2: in projects, shooting at each other. You got colorism bouncing
Speaker 2: around our communities. You got gang and crime activity at
Speaker 2: an all time high, while while the Black Panther Party
Speaker 2: and the other people are doing their best, while our
Speaker 2: leaders have been shot, everybody been killed. Right, the government
Speaker 2: has came in cointel pro has broken us down. Our
Speaker 2: communities are broken apart, there's mass incarceration. Daddy's gone right,
Speaker 2: and they being low key kind of nice to the
Speaker 2: pretty niggas and then old niggas sound like old niggas.
Speaker 2: Y'all all heads right? And these young wild bucks what
Speaker 2: we do with them? Or we make them athletes? You
Speaker 2: just what I'm saying, criminal actor, rapper, pastor you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. There's another thing they used to do
Speaker 2: with the faith thing. Because they knew we was people
Speaker 2: of faith in whatever way we were, they gave us
Speaker 2: a Bible. But you know that Bible was missing Exodus.
Speaker 2: Did you know that the slave Bible ain't have Exodus.
Speaker 2: Anything that talked about freedom was taken out of the Bible,
Speaker 2: which says to me, like again, see, I don't come
Speaker 2: from that like that white Western Christian nationalists evangelical circle.
Speaker 2: I come from a different tradition that opened the Bible
Speaker 2: and was like, yo, it seemed to me like God
Speaker 2: is always on the side of the oppress. It seemed
Speaker 2: to me like God has always opened his arms wider
Speaker 2: you following the narrative arche scripture, God opened his arms
Speaker 2: wider you, feel me. But the Bible they was given
Speaker 2: to us, oh, that had all that out taken out.
Speaker 2: Imagine how we felt when we finally read Exodus. We
Speaker 2: was like Oh shit. You know what I'm saying. Now,
Speaker 2: remember this, a lot of us come from West Africa.
Speaker 2: East Africa. They had that's actually an older church than
Speaker 2: the American one. You know what I'm saying that they
Speaker 2: kind of already knew, you know, as the Orthodoxy, as
Speaker 2: they already knew. The point is the point I'm trying
Speaker 2: to tell you is they even used faith as a
Speaker 2: means of oppression. Again, couple that with the seventies people
Speaker 2: like Elijah Mohammed and they trying to tell you, like, listen,
Speaker 2: these are controlling tactics. Now, was there a book given
Speaker 2: to slave owners as to how to break a slave
Speaker 2: or did they instinctively know you break it like a horse.
Speaker 2: If you show any emotion, that's anything that's not too pleasant.
Speaker 2: If you too pleasant, you happy, you hiding something, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna beat your ass. You too sad. Oh you're making
Speaker 2: me look bad. You're gonna be bad morale for the slaves.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna beat your ass. You looking at me sideways.
Speaker 2: Oh you think you tough, I'm gonna beat your ass.
Speaker 2: Oh you can read, Oh you smarter the master, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna beat your ass. You keeping these people in line?
Speaker 2: You could do your little hippie hop, your little honkiny talk,
Speaker 2: gon't play your little songs, do your little jigs.
Speaker 1: That's okay. I'll give them a little give them, give
Speaker 1: them Sundays. They'd be all right.
Speaker 2: It's a psychological war just as much as it's a
Speaker 2: physical war. You have stripped me as a man of
Speaker 2: all remnants and markers of manhood. And what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find manhood in another way? What's that like
Speaker 2: the ship the niggas take pride in? Now you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I mean, what the hell am I
Speaker 2: supposed to do? There's an argument among some of the
Speaker 2: moral whole teps of the world that post World War Two,
Speaker 2: when our families were separated and we were sent off
Speaker 2: to war, the government was given subsidies to single moms,
Speaker 2: which was supposed to end when your husband came back. Right,
Speaker 2: So that mean the checks come, the check's done, The
Speaker 2: check's done when your husband come back, because your husband
Speaker 2: supposed to provide for you.
Speaker 1: Now, do you know people looking the.
Speaker 2: Higher black veterans, No, they we couldn't get jobs. The
Speaker 2: civil rights movement ain't happen yet, couldn't get jobs. So
Speaker 2: what was the wife to do? Well, we still need
Speaker 2: to pay for these kids. So they say, well, I
Speaker 2: choose the money. But if you choose the money, that
Speaker 2: means you can't stay married to this man. And what
Speaker 2: does this man feel like? He feel like you chose
Speaker 2: money over over me? And now I'm ashamed, And guess
Speaker 2: what just happened? You just pitted black man against black women.
Speaker 2: The shit works, nigga. You know there's a fight right now.
Speaker 2: You not in black circles. It's a fight right now
Speaker 2: between African Americans and African diaspora. We got we got
Speaker 2: beef right now. Why Because this shit works, y'all. Just
Speaker 2: as long as they fighting each other and not fighting me,
Speaker 2: everything gonna be all right. Because the goal to keep
Speaker 2: a slave on the plantation is to make them think
Speaker 2: they need you, that everything outside is more dangerous.
Speaker 1: It's safer to be here. I'm all you got. You
Speaker 1: ain't got no options.
Speaker 2: And look it, if somebody run away, that's gonna mess
Speaker 2: it up for everybody else. You know, you you you
Speaker 2: getting too bald out there. You are you're gonna visit.
Speaker 2: Your Ma's gonna computer us. You willa shut your mouth now,
Speaker 2: you know, judge your mouth. You know. We can't get
Speaker 2: up and all they free up there, you know, but
Speaker 2: that's that's what we don't. We won't go up there. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm a good nickel it as you saw the continuation of,
Speaker 2: like I said, a racist system. It's hard to not
Speaker 2: think that, like, damn y'all using the same tactics on us,
Speaker 2: you know, put us over in this little corner, have
Speaker 2: a fight against each other, blame each other for our
Speaker 2: problems rather than you know, if I'm ana continue the metaphor,
Speaker 2: I got salt all in my lungs because of that
Speaker 2: crab over there. No, you got salt in your lungs
Speaker 2: because you in the ocean.
Speaker 1: Y'all with me. You got salt in your lungs.
Speaker 2: You got.
Speaker 1: Because you're in the ocean, you know.
Speaker 2: So why do I bring this up? If you can't
Speaker 2: see where I'm going here. The immigrants ain't stilling your job.
Speaker 2: It's the mass layoffs. It's the people that said if
Speaker 2: I could get the same work cheaper from somebody who
Speaker 2: is so desperate that they'll do whatever it takes, then yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1: You cost too much.
Speaker 2: You met at that person who is desperate for taking
Speaker 2: the job, rather than saying, these people don't respect either
Speaker 2: of us enough to pay us fair wages. You met
Speaker 2: at this immigrant, you met at this nigga that walked
Speaker 2: four countries?
Speaker 1: Yup? How Mexican man stand up there? A Latino man stand.
Speaker 2: Up there with a right wing death squad sweater on? Oh,
Speaker 2: because he drank the kool aid. Because it makes sense,
Speaker 2: because the white they were always winning. Because Willy Lynch,
Speaker 2: I'm a nigga, but I'm not like THEMN niggas, Or
Speaker 2: I'm a Latino, or I'm a Mexican, but I'm not
Speaker 2: like THEMN Mexican.
Speaker 1: You mad at your own folks. That's Willy Lynch.
Speaker 2: Y'all's Willy Lynch, a real person.
Speaker 1: Probably not.
Speaker 2: Do the tactics work. Absolutely, Are they actual tactics? I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I tell you what you done got
Speaker 2: me all the way messed up. You think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be mad at another poor person for the issues we got. Listen,
Speaker 2: don't let them fool you, dog, that's Willy Lynch. My
Speaker 2: understanding how anti blackness is an international issue makes me
Speaker 2: feel like I'm very well equipped to tell everybody don't
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Speaker 1: still right now, oh y'o.
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