1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: I saw this on the internet. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: It's a tweet from Mohammed Safa, a dude out of 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: New York, said, no immigrant has taken your job. You 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: were laid off by a capitalist who required cheap labor 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: and took advantage of that immigrant to increase its profit. 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Nothing makes him happier than hearing you blame the immigrant 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: and not him. It made me think of a Malcolm 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: X quote that has always rained in my head whenever 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: I think about immigrant, black and brown unity, this being 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: Asian Pacific Islander Month. When I think about all those 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: things in relation to the plight of being a specifically 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: anti black sentiment across the world that even some of 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: these other communities can carry, I think of this quote 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: for Malcolm X that says, if you're not careful, the 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: newspapers will have you hating the people who are being 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: oppressed and loving the people doing the oppressing. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Because that's what that quote reminded me of. 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: Not careful, this news will have you thinking another poor 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: person is the person keeping you poor, that another oppressed 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: group is doing your pressing. Now, I can't tell or 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: promise you that there's some sort of big, sinister plot 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: that all the rich people in the world, sit around 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: and had a meeting, and all followed the same same 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: rule book. But it did make me think, have y'all 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: ever heard of Willie Lynch letter? Let me put y'all 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: on game hood politics. I imagine you don't need me 27 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: to tell you anything about the one hundred and ninety 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: ninth and two hundred mass shooting just this year. Right, 29 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: and you probably have seen enough of this footage and 30 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: heard enough of this story, and you know the broken record. 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: You already know how this is gonna go. We're gonna 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: talk about mental health and gun reform, and these fools 33 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: ain't gonna do shit, and it's just gonna be yet 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: another you're gonna hear that again, yet another. Right, and well, 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: it's not the guns, it's mental health. Well, it's not 36 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: mental health, it's the guns. Well, maybe it's both, dumb 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: ass like and even if it's not the guns and 38 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: it's the mental health, Okay, what are you gonna do 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: about mental health? 40 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Like? 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: You what are your plans? Oh, you ain't got one, 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: but then shut shut up? Right? 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you take away guns, okay? Cool? 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: Like all right, so you know you took away the guns. 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: Now what are you gonna do about mentealth. You know 46 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like y'all, y'all already know all 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: this stuff, y'all need like you know the role of 48 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: hood politics is to help you know that you understand 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: more than you give yourself credit for. 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: Listen. 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm more interested in how we as can folk can 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: dialogue around this. So I want to introduce you to 53 00:02:53,919 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: the Willie Lynch theory. Willie Lanz there, and I'm going 54 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: to get into its history, its origins, the veracity of 55 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: it and what that got to do with us. But 56 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: I want to talk about it around not only does 57 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: mass shootings, but also the ending of Title forty two, 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: which is what was a COVID restriction, and what Title 59 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: forty two said was because of COVID health emergency, we 60 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: were in if you came seeking asylum, we didn't have 61 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: to take you in because we can stop you at 62 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: the border because of health restrictions. 63 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: Right. 64 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: Ending of it changes the way that asylum works. Asylum 65 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: has worked in a number of different ways, but mostly 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: asylum is a legal port of entry. You're fleeing a country, 67 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: you're making an asylum claim, and generally how it's been 68 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: for a while. Is it's called catch and release in 69 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: some ways, in the sense that like, okay, I know 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: the term sounds terrible, but it's kind of like this. 71 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: You get here, clearly you're in distress. Okay, won't you 72 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: just chill right here because I'm not going to send you. 73 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: Back to chaos. 74 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: Just chill right here, hold on while we get your 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: paperwork together and see if you could stay for if 76 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: you could stay for good. 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: Kick it right here. You know what I'm saying. 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: It's almost like triaging, like let's stop the bleeding first. Now, 79 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: don't don't let me explain this as if this is 80 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: some sort of morally good and humane way of doing things. 81 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: Ain't nothing at the border humane unless you got NGOs 82 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: down there making it humane. But besides that, shout out 83 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: preemptive love and search your common ground organizations I work with. 84 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: But you get in there, you wait for your asylum 85 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: case and sometimes, as you know, if you know any immigrants, man, 86 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: that mug can take years. So while that's happening, you 87 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: just like your life not on hold. You have a sponsor, 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: you know somebody here, or you just go. You got 89 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: to go while you're waiting for your asylum claim and 90 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: sometimes that's not un till like four years. And at 91 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: that point, I mean, you got a whole ass life here. 92 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You probably had children, right, 93 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: you done got married, so you know, you kind of 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: build a life. But again, you're seeking asylum. You're not 95 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: here illegally, you're actually waiting for your trial. 96 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: Right. 97 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: It's this limbo that actually I think Embedded did a 98 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: whole story on this, like this limbo of like you're here, 99 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: but you're not actually here in the eyes of the law. 100 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: You still haven't crossed the border. In the eyes of 101 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: the law, you're still on a boat five miles outside 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: of our shores. So you have no legal protections because 103 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: you're not technically here yet, which is absurd. That's why 104 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: I was like, don't act like this is humane, jo 105 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: say it. But that's the process of seeking asylum. 106 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Now. 107 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: In addition to that, what these new laws are saying 108 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: is what you'd have to do to seek asylum is 109 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: you have to prove to me that you've tried at 110 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: another place, that you've you've gone to another country and 111 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: you've tried to get asylum there on your way here. 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: We can't be the first person you asked is this 113 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: is this is our law. And if we the first 114 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: person you asked, we're gonna send you back to the 115 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: first country that you try to get into and say 116 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: you need to talk to them first. Because, much to 117 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: the chagrin of the you know, right wing I hate 118 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: immigrants circle, and I'm gonna get into how that circle 119 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: sometimes be their own folk. If you if you be 120 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: around some immigrant circles, you know what I'm saying, Me 121 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: around my first gen Mexican wife living in the Mexican 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: side of town, it's a plenty of foods that we 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: could say, skin folk and kim folk. You know what 124 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm saying, somehow feel like they better than you because 125 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: they family got in it earlier. 126 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Like but listen, let me leave that alone. I'm putting 127 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: my opinion in here. 128 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: That's an experience I ain't had, so let me you 129 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, let me, let me, let me, 130 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: let me fall back. But they like the fact that 131 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: you could just kind of be here. It was the 132 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: way to like trick the system if you could just oh, 133 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: just go and claim asylum. It takes like ten years 134 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: to get a case anyway, So at that point you 135 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: don't have kids. I mean, you can't leave now, you 136 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like you're children born here. So 137 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: it's this like mixed message that's like, yo, don't come here, 138 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: but come here. It's also a mixed message to the coyotes, right, 139 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: like so if I'm gonna snuggle you into the country 140 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: once I get you to the border, just go there 141 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: and just say you claim an asylum. 142 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: You good, give me my two g's. You know what 143 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now. 144 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: Of course, there's exception to that, like you have to 145 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: have applied somewhere else. Rule one is Mexico. There is 146 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: no other country in between here, so there's a particular 147 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: exception from them. And there's also an exception to people 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: to countries that we just don't like. Like if you 149 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: come in here from Russia because we don't like Russia, 150 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: you feel me you got a better chance. I know, 151 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: I absurd, that sounds, but this is the system anyway. 152 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: Title forty two is removing the COVID restrictions that were 153 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: a good cover for just some blatant anti immigrant just 154 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: hate moving. You say, well, I hate illegal immigration. Well 155 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: we're not even talking about it. This is you're not 156 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: listening to us issue these are asylum seekers. That's a 157 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: perfectly legal way to get into the country. So I 158 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: don't even know what you're talking about. What you're talking 159 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: about illegal immigration is not what we're talking about. We 160 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: talking about asylums. But since our system is just so 161 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: wrought with inefficiencies and of course racism, there's so many 162 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: ways to exploit it. Now I don't have an answer 163 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: to none of this. Shout out to Homie justin I 164 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: have no answers to none of these questions. But these 165 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: are just the situations at our border. Now you couple 166 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: that with the fact that the shooter at this mall 167 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: down at Allen, Texas was a Latino man, which some 168 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: people would make you say, well, clearly it's not a 169 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: race thing or that. See, we told you these illegal 170 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: immigrants are the problem, right, which both are absurd statements 171 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: for a number of reasons. One because Homie had the 172 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: you know, the RWDS little patch on it, which stands 173 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: for right wing Death Squad. And also just look at 174 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: his social media. He didn't he's bought in. So I 175 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: want to talk to you all about something that it's 176 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: almost like this is some free game for you to 177 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 2: help you get your brain around a few conversations so 178 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: that like when you talk about these things, you talk 179 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: about them with a calibrated temperament that is steeped in 180 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: a lived experience of persons of colors. You following me here, like, 181 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna really get my teacher on right now. People 182 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: always accusing people who work in the justice space communities 183 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: of colors that we're always making it about race, while 184 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: you're always making it about race. You're that wasn't even 185 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: you're making it about race. This isn't about race. And 186 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: then since they believe we're making it about race, it's 187 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: like we tend to find race everywhere. You're like environmental racism, Like, 188 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: what the are you telling me that you're telling me 189 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: the tornadoes racist? 190 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying. You're saying floods are racist? 191 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? 192 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, even the nature's even, So you're 193 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: saying the weather's racist, right, that's what that would be 194 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: the accusation. And of course that sounds stupid, right, But 195 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: you know me, maybe I'm gonna give my little analogy. 196 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: Maybe you could think of it like this, If you 197 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 2: are gonna go fishing, like off a pier down to 198 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: Santa Monica. You know, so ocean right, salt water, it's 199 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: the ocean. It's a pretty safe bet to think that 200 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: anything that comes out of comes on your hook and 201 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: out of that body of water is a salt water animal. 202 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: It's a salt water creature. Now, I'm pretty sure there's 203 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: some of you people that are smarter than me that 204 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: can tell me that there are some things that can 205 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: live in both or that are actually fresh water. They 206 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: just happen to have. I don't know, maybe maybe you're 207 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: smarter than maybe it is. I'm just thinking it's a 208 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: pretty good bet to think that if I got it 209 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: out of a salt water body of water, it's going 210 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: to be a salt water creature. It's kind of the 211 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: same with a racist system. Whatever you build inside of 212 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: a racist system is going to be calibrated towards that 213 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: racism or it won't survive. 214 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: It's just it's so I'm not finding it everywhere. 215 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: The system requires racism for it's a function the way 216 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: it's been functioning here. 217 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so here's an example back to that. 218 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure the floods are not racist, but what are 219 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: where the laws around redlining and zoning that left poor 220 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: communities and communities of color being neglected for infrastructure upgrades 221 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: and changes because our zip codes counted towards low income 222 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: and you know, and zip code is just like a 223 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: coded way of saying black neighborhood, you know what I'm saying, 224 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: or a brown neighborhood. And of course I'm speaking in 225 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: terms of intersectionality because I know that social class and 226 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: race are separate things but also overlapped. But that's because 227 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: I understand critical race theory. So those zip codes say that, like, yeah, 228 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: like our levees, the levees haven't been serviced in our 229 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: in our part of town for a long time. Our 230 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: streets have not been updated, our pipes have not been cleaned. 231 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: There's trash inside of our gutters because the city, because 232 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: of a legacy of racist laws that you know, rent 233 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: lined us out and zoned us out to a certain thing. 234 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: Jerry Manderin that says that, like, you know, this particular 235 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 2: district has this particular more money, So I'm gonna work 236 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: more specifically towards this particular district because it was more 237 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: advantageous for them. When these natural disasters happened, Yes, they 238 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: hit black, brown, and underserved neighborhoods worse. It's the same water, 239 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: but you haven't been taken care of us because of 240 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: your racism. So yeah, that's what happens. Yes, black people 241 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: can't swim. Well, you know, we weren't allowed into public pools. 242 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: We got kicked off of beaches. Who I mean we okay? 243 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 2: So no, it's like these are things that are part 244 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: of everyone. How come your family don't have you know, 245 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: ask your grandfather to invest in your business. Well, my 246 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: granddaddy didn't get land to Homestead Act. Like what I'm 247 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: trying to tell you is like it's in the system. 248 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 2: What was the Homestead Act? Well, it was the end 249 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: of the Civil War. The country was broke. We needed 250 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: to give these land grants to these new plots of 251 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: land we had out west. Right, those land grants were 252 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: given to white peasant families. Only black people couldn't get it. 253 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: The government gave them a leg up. You had farms 254 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: given to you by the government. So I don't know 255 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: what you mean. That's what I mean by in the system. 256 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: Were you telling me land grants are racist? I'm saying 257 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 2: it grew out of a racist system. So yes, they 258 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: only gave it to white folks. I mean, it's in 259 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: the water. If credits scores are given to people based 260 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: on whether they can own a home and stuff like that, 261 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I might loan you one thousand dollars, 262 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: but if you see that I'm trying, I'm from this 263 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: zip code, trying to get. 264 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: Into that zip code. 265 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: You're gonna charge me sixteen percent, eighteen percent, but charge 266 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: somebody else five percent, right, or just not give me 267 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: the loan at all because you looked at that zip code. 268 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: You know who's in that zip code, and now we 269 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: can't get into that house because that zip code doesn't 270 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: want a lot of black people in it. It's in 271 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: the system, y'all. I'm not making this shit up. That's 272 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: how it works. So yeah, I'm seeing it everywhere because 273 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: it is everywhere. It affects every area of my life, 274 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: which ain't my choice. I wish it didn't. That's the 275 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: next point I want to bring up is that because 276 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: of this type of institution, we've built communities of color 277 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: and white people for that matter, but I think mostly 278 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: communities of color. I'll explain how this affects white folks too, 279 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: but I think communities we're our identities are so flattened 280 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: that we're expected to speak for all of us the 281 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: type of dynamic just normal ass being a normal, dynamic 282 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: human is with complicated thoughts and feelings and experiences. It's 283 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: just not awarded to us because there's this big gaze 284 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: of gazes and eyes y'all of like our identities being 285 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: a political unit for which our rights are measured against. 286 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: That's just that's how a racist system works, you know. 287 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: And it's not that what I want. So then you say, well, 288 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: then why are you creating laws? We're trying to fix 289 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: the we're calibrating the problem, Like it's because I'm trying 290 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: to fix the problem, Like does that make sense? And 291 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: I think with white folks, it's like that's why you're 292 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: always like, damn, not all white people. My answers didn't 293 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: hold slaves. Those are just racist fucks. Yeah, I know, 294 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: because we're in a system that flattens you too, that 295 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: took white people and created whiteness. 296 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: You're stuck in it too, don't you understand? 297 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: You're a victim too, you know how I know, go 298 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: into any rural community, going to any poor white trailer park, 299 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: toughest nails sawmill, working coal mine. They like, look, this 300 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: whiteness ain't help me at all. Like they like, look, 301 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: these people don't love me neither they understand that like 302 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: na them niggas don't speak for me. But what the 303 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: system has done is which gets me to what I'm 304 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: about to talk about, is to say, rather than be 305 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: mad at the people causing that or the institution that 306 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: is causing that, you mad at immigrants, you mad at 307 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: black people. 308 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: And your cheerleader, your. 309 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: Champion, is this man Donald Trump and this right wing 310 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: conservative people that is telling you that them mother colored 311 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: folks is your problem. You know, you one of us. 312 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: We want to save America for you. And what your 313 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: answer should be is, well, when you're gonna start doing that, 314 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm my my daddy and my granddaddy and his granddaddy 315 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: before that been working these minds. I know our lot 316 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: ain't changed. So what what what America you saving? You 317 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: should be looking at it and being like, Hey, this 318 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: Filipino immigrant that I'm sharing this number four with extra 319 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: fries with because that's the only money that we got. 320 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: That man got black lung, like I do. Where are 321 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: my healthcare at? Like? Where are my job training? I 322 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: mean if we're not gonna stop electric cars from happening. 323 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: When you go, I mean you were trying to save 324 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: our jobs, nigging, Like what's up with the training? You 325 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like we're doing all this cold? 326 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: What's up with my like, what's up with my lung cancer? 327 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: Stuff? Like you're not really helping me, are you? 328 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 2: When you're gonna make us great, you're gonna pick us 329 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: over them, when you're gonna come pick us, that's you 330 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: should be saying. But as Malcolm X said, listen, if 331 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: we're not careful, he say, newspapers because that was his time. 332 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: You had them. 333 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: Newspapers will have an oppressed person hating another oppressed person 334 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: instead of day oppressor. Let's talk about the Willy Lynch 335 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: papers next. All right, let me get to it and 336 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: tie this all up together. Now. The Willie Lynch letter 337 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: is Willie Lynch Letter and the making of a slave. Now, 338 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: this was reported to be done by a man named 339 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: William Lynch who was supposedly in seventeen twelve gave this speech. 340 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: He was from the Caribbean, from Haiti, and supposedly this 341 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: was like the basically the owner's manual to how to 342 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: break a slave. Now the letter has been essentially debunked 343 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: in the sense that. 344 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: It's probably not what it purports to be. 345 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: Now, some would use the term hoax, right, And it's 346 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: kind of because of there's some language in there that 347 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: wouldn't match the year seventeen twelve that clearly comes from 348 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 2: another time. But it started popping up around the nineteen seventies. 349 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: I remember my dad used to talk to me about 350 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: it and about the process again of breaking a slave 351 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: and making your property submit. 352 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Right. 353 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: It's a really hard read, but here's an introduction. The 354 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: infamous Willie Lynch letters gives both African and Caucasian students 355 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: and teachers some insight concerning the brutal, humane psychology behind 356 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: the African slave trade. The materialistic viewpoint of the Southern 357 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: plantation owners is that slavery was a business and the 358 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: victims of chavel slavery were mere ponds in an economic 359 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: game of the bauchery, crossbreeding, interracial rape, and mental conditioning 360 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: of the Neegord race that they considered subhuman. 361 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: Now, I want you to get this point. 362 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: Whether this is factual or not, is not the point 363 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: that I'm bringing up, because I think there's a good 364 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: case to say that, Yeah, like, there's usually the way 365 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: that history works. There's usually not one like master document 366 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: or owner's manual that would set up and be the 367 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: guide for multinational, multi generational system in multiple countries, you know, 368 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean, my lord, Like, there would have been volumes 369 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: and volumes of academic scrutiny around this thing. 370 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Were it what it proposed to be. 371 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: Now that being said, if it came up in the seventies, 372 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 2: I don't know who actually wrote this thing, but that's 373 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: not even the point of this pod. But you have 374 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: to remember what was happening in the time of the seventies, right, 375 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: you know, post Civil rights, black power movement, you know, 376 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: after the Wars, and you know, the advent of a 377 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: lot of like violence in inner city streets, and this 378 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: new type of black love was re emerging. So when 379 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: you look at the content that I'm about to tell 380 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: y'all about a little more, and you lined up next 381 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: to first hand accounts from slaves, right, it's hard not 382 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: to think because of the way that all these different 383 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: accounts from all these different plantations across the Americas, it's 384 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: hard to not feel like, damn, like, are y'all all 385 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: reading from the same book. 386 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 387 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: Right? You know, like how black people, you know, always 388 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: be like, yo, it's a conspiracy. 389 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: It's the man keeping us down. 390 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: It's hard to not feel like that because of how 391 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: much of these systems all work together. 392 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: It's like, damn, it's like, do y'all all sit around 393 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: the same. 394 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: Table when you look at the types of stories and 395 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: first hand accounts and not only from written but you 396 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: know at the time you talk about like your great 397 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: grandma and them stories that you heard from your own family. 398 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: When you place them all together. 399 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: Even if this is this was a tool for teaching, 400 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: and it was fictionalized for the purpose of understanding something 401 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 2: that would communicate a truth to us now, then it 402 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't make sense. It's not so much that it's a hoax, 403 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: but it's a way of fictionalizing and encapsulating things that 404 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: are clear we're happening to us and still affect us. Now, 405 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: are you following me? There were lessons. I feel like 406 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: the people at the time when this thing came out 407 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: was trying to communicate to a younger generation or to 408 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: a modern time that given the information we have from slavery, 409 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: if I were to compile it it would seem like 410 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: this is what's happening you following me, So let me 411 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: give you some of the meat of it. So again, 412 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: the speech was delivered by a slave owner, William Lynch, 413 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: on the banks of the James River in seventeen twelve. 414 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: That's what the document claims. Now, like I said, whether 415 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: that's true or not, probably not. But this is this 416 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 2: is where we're getting this from. So here check this out. 417 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: Here's the instruments. 418 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: Gentlemen, I greet you on the banks of James River 419 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: of the year of our Lord Oney seven hundred and twelve. 420 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: First of all, I shall thank you, the gentleman of 421 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: the Colony of Virginia for bringing me here. I am 422 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: here to solve some of your problems for slaves. Your 423 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies, 424 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: and I have experienced some of the newest and still 425 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: the oldest methods of control of slaves. An ancient Rome 426 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: would envy the program I've implemented. So here's some of 427 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: the things that he says he's implemented. Right, I'm gonna 428 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: skim through this thing because now you can download it 429 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: and read it yourself. 430 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: But guys, I mean, it's it's really brutal. 431 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: So the idea is, he's like, I need to break 432 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: them mentally, psychologically, and emotionally, and if you break them 433 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: correctly like a horse, they'll follow you forever. Right, And 434 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: one of the main things he says is like, this 435 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: is a direct quote. Now again he again, the veracity 436 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: of this is a whole other story. We're gonna get 437 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: to the point as to why and why this is 438 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: important to us. After I tell you all this stuff, 439 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: it says, Look, it don't forget. You must pitch the 440 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: old black male versus the young black male, and the 441 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: young black male against the old black male. You must 442 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: use the dark skinned slaves versus the light skinned slaves, 443 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 2: and the light skin slaves versus the dark skinned slaves. 444 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: You must use the female versus the male, and the 445 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: male versus the female. You must also have your white 446 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: servants and overseers distrust all blacks. But it is necessary 447 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love 448 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: and respect and trust only us. 449 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: And then he gives these kits on how to create 450 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: that thing. 451 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: Right, y'all catch that he's saying he wants your white 452 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: peasants to distrust black people. But you want your black 453 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: people to trust them white peasants. That's how you create 454 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: order me Let me keep going for you. Now here's 455 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: a side note from the Black Arcade Liberation Library in 456 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy. They say it was in the interest and 457 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: business of slaveholders to study human nature, and the slave 458 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: nature in particular, with a view to practical results. Many 459 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: of them attained astonished proficiency in this direction. They had 460 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: to deal not with earth, wood and stone, but with men, 461 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: and they, by every regard they had known for the 462 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: safety and prosperity, they had need to know the material 463 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: on which they were to work. Now here's a quote 464 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: from Frederick Douglas. He says, conscious of the injustice and wrong, 465 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: they were every hour perpetuating, knowing what they themselves would 466 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: do were they victims of such wrongs. They were constantly 467 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: looking for the first signs of dread retribution. They watched. 468 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 2: Therefore with skilled eyes, practice eyes learned to read with 469 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: great accuracy the state of mind and heart of a slave. 470 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: Though his stable face unusual, sobriety, apparent abstraction, sullenness and indifference. Indeed, 471 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: any mood out of the common way afforded ground for 472 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: suspicion and inquiry, which means this, they know for a 473 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 2: fact what they're doing is wrong. So and they know 474 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: what they would do if they were being treated like this. 475 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: So you got to watch carefully because if these people 476 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: actually figure out that we are defeatable, you. 477 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. 478 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: So since you know what you're doing is wrong, you 479 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: better break these people right, and I mean break them bad. 480 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: Let me pull another quote. He says, we hold six 481 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 2: cardinal principles as truths to be self evident based on 482 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: the following discourse concerning the economic breaking and trying of 483 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: these horses. Breaking and trying of the horse and the 484 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: nigger together, all inclusive, are the six principles laid out above. 485 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: Note neither principle alone will suffice for good economics, and 486 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: all principles must be employed in an orderly and good fashion. Accordingly, 487 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: both wild horse and wild or natural nigger is dangerous 488 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: even if captured, and will tendency to seek their own 489 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: customary freedom. So in doing so you cannot rest. So 490 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: you got to break them right. So it says we 491 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 2: revise nature by burning and pulling one civilized nigger apart 492 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: and bull whipping another to the point of death. This 493 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 2: is how you break a woman in her presence right 494 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: continually through the breaking of uncivilized savage niggers. By throwing 495 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: the nigger female savage into a frozen psychological state of independency, 496 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: by killing the protective male image, by creating a submissive, 497 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: independent mind of the. 498 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: Nigger male savage. 499 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: We have created and orbiting cycles that turns on its 500 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: own access forever unless a phenomenon occurs that reshifts the 501 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: position of the female savages. 502 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: We show what we mean by example. 503 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna subject y'all to the rest of this, 504 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna give you the gist of it. So 505 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: you break the family apart, You make the woman feel 506 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: isolated and solo. You convince a man that he cannot 507 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: protect his family. He is helpless without the help of 508 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: the overseer. There is nothing you can do. I can 509 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: rape your girl, don't matter. You're not a man. I 510 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: could take your children and sell them to another place. 511 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: You're not a man, right, And watch me treat the 512 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 2: light skin ones better, do you know what I'm saying? So, 513 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: and while you watching me treat the light skin one's better, 514 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: the light skin ones start thinking they actually better than 515 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: the darkness house niggas and field niggas. Then there's a 516 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: third part that I'm not gonna get fully into, but 517 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: you con sert it your own time. It's this idea 518 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: of giving somebody a puddle of mud dividing your room up, 519 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: and then say, I'm letting you have this puddle of mud, 520 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: and you gotta protect it from those other people. Now, 521 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: were all fighting over this little piece of freedom, But 522 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: that little piece of freedom, that little plot of land, 523 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: is just it's just mud. 524 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Why are we fighting over this? Now? 525 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: You take this, this letter, this whole thing that's probably 526 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: a hoax, but more likely an allegory, and you play 527 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: that into the nineteen seventies, where you have us living 528 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: in projects, shooting at each other. You got colorism bouncing 529 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: around our communities. You got gang and crime activity at 530 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: an all time high, while while the Black Panther Party 531 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: and the other people are doing their best, while our 532 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: leaders have been shot, everybody been killed. Right, the government 533 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: has came in cointel pro has broken us down. Our 534 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: communities are broken apart, there's mass incarceration. Daddy's gone right, 535 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: and they being low key kind of nice to the 536 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: pretty niggas and then old niggas sound like old niggas. 537 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: Y'all all heads right? And these young wild bucks what 538 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: we do with them? Or we make them athletes? You 539 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: just what I'm saying, criminal actor, rapper, pastor you know 540 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. There's another thing they used to do 541 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: with the faith thing. Because they knew we was people 542 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: of faith in whatever way we were, they gave us 543 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: a Bible. But you know that Bible was missing Exodus. 544 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: Did you know that the slave Bible ain't have Exodus. 545 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: Anything that talked about freedom was taken out of the Bible, 546 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: which says to me, like again, see, I don't come 547 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: from that like that white Western Christian nationalists evangelical circle. 548 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: I come from a different tradition that opened the Bible 549 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: and was like, yo, it seemed to me like God 550 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: is always on the side of the oppress. It seemed 551 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: to me like God has always opened his arms wider 552 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: you following the narrative arche scripture, God opened his arms 553 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: wider you, feel me. But the Bible they was given 554 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: to us, oh, that had all that out taken out. 555 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: Imagine how we felt when we finally read Exodus. We 556 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: was like Oh shit. You know what I'm saying. Now, 557 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: remember this, a lot of us come from West Africa. 558 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: East Africa. They had that's actually an older church than 559 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: the American one. You know what I'm saying that they 560 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: kind of already knew, you know, as the Orthodoxy, as 561 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: they already knew. The point is the point I'm trying 562 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: to tell you is they even used faith as a 563 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: means of oppression. Again, couple that with the seventies people 564 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: like Elijah Mohammed and they trying to tell you, like, listen, 565 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: these are controlling tactics. Now, was there a book given 566 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: to slave owners as to how to break a slave 567 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: or did they instinctively know you break it like a horse. 568 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: If you show any emotion, that's anything that's not too pleasant. 569 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: If you too pleasant, you happy, you hiding something, I'm 570 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: gonna beat your ass. You too sad. Oh you're making 571 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: me look bad. You're gonna be bad morale for the slaves. 572 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna beat your ass. You looking at me sideways. 573 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 2: Oh you think you tough, I'm gonna beat your ass. 574 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: Oh you can read, Oh you smarter the master, I'm 575 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: gonna beat your ass. You keeping these people in line? 576 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: You could do your little hippie hop, your little honkiny talk, 577 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: gon't play your little songs, do your little jigs. 578 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: That's okay. I'll give them a little give them, give 579 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: them Sundays. They'd be all right. 580 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: It's a psychological war just as much as it's a 581 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: physical war. You have stripped me as a man of 582 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: all remnants and markers of manhood. And what's gonna happen? 583 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna find manhood in another way? What's that like 584 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: the ship the niggas take pride in? Now you know 585 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I mean, what the hell am I 586 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: supposed to do? There's an argument among some of the 587 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: moral whole teps of the world that post World War Two, 588 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: when our families were separated and we were sent off 589 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: to war, the government was given subsidies to single moms, 590 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: which was supposed to end when your husband came back. Right, 591 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: So that mean the checks come, the check's done, The 592 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: check's done when your husband come back, because your husband 593 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: supposed to provide for you. 594 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: Now, do you know people looking the. 595 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: Higher black veterans, No, they we couldn't get jobs. The 596 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: civil rights movement ain't happen yet, couldn't get jobs. So 597 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: what was the wife to do? Well, we still need 598 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: to pay for these kids. So they say, well, I 599 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: choose the money. But if you choose the money, that 600 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: means you can't stay married to this man. And what 601 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: does this man feel like? He feel like you chose 602 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 2: money over over me? And now I'm ashamed, And guess 603 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: what just happened? You just pitted black man against black women. 604 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: The shit works, nigga. You know there's a fight right now. 605 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: You not in black circles. It's a fight right now 606 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 2: between African Americans and African diaspora. We got we got 607 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: beef right now. Why Because this shit works, y'all. Just 608 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: as long as they fighting each other and not fighting me, 609 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: everything gonna be all right. Because the goal to keep 610 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: a slave on the plantation is to make them think 611 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: they need you, that everything outside is more dangerous. 612 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: It's safer to be here. I'm all you got. You 613 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: ain't got no options. 614 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 2: And look it, if somebody run away, that's gonna mess 615 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: it up for everybody else. You know, you you you 616 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: getting too bald out there. You are you're gonna visit. 617 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: Your Ma's gonna computer us. You willa shut your mouth now, 618 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: you know, judge your mouth. You know. We can't get 619 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: up and all they free up there, you know, but 620 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: that's that's what we don't. We won't go up there. Look, 621 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm a good nickel it as you saw the continuation of, 622 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: like I said, a racist system. It's hard to not 623 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: think that, like, damn y'all using the same tactics on us, 624 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: you know, put us over in this little corner, have 625 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: a fight against each other, blame each other for our 626 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: problems rather than you know, if I'm ana continue the metaphor, 627 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: I got salt all in my lungs because of that 628 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: crab over there. No, you got salt in your lungs 629 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: because you in the ocean. 630 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: Y'all with me. You got salt in your lungs. 631 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: You got. 632 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: Because you're in the ocean, you know. 633 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: So why do I bring this up? If you can't 634 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: see where I'm going here. The immigrants ain't stilling your job. 635 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 2: It's the mass layoffs. It's the people that said if 636 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 2: I could get the same work cheaper from somebody who 637 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: is so desperate that they'll do whatever it takes, then yeah, 638 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that. 639 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: You cost too much. 640 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: You met at that person who is desperate for taking 641 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 2: the job, rather than saying, these people don't respect either 642 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 2: of us enough to pay us fair wages. You met 643 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: at this immigrant, you met at this nigga that walked 644 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: four countries? 645 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: Yup? How Mexican man stand up there? A Latino man stand. 646 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: Up there with a right wing death squad sweater on? Oh, 647 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: because he drank the kool aid. Because it makes sense, 648 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: because the white they were always winning. Because Willy Lynch, 649 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm a nigga, but I'm not like THEMN niggas, Or 650 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 2: I'm a Latino, or I'm a Mexican, but I'm not 651 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 2: like THEMN Mexican. 652 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: You mad at your own folks. That's Willy Lynch. 653 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: Y'all's Willy Lynch, a real person. 654 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: Probably not. 655 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: Do the tactics work. Absolutely, Are they actual tactics? I 656 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: don't know, but I tell you what you done got 657 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: me all the way messed up. You think I'm gonna 658 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: be mad at another poor person for the issues we got. Listen, 659 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 2: don't let them fool you, dog, that's Willy Lynch. My 660 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: understanding how anti blackness is an international issue makes me 661 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: feel like I'm very well equipped to tell everybody don't 662 00:37:46,080 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: let them fool you theod politics. You know, I don't 663 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: know why I ain't thought of this before, but you 664 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: know you could use promo code hood for fifteen percent 665 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: off on terraform coolbrew dot com. Like I forgot I 666 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: own that company and this is my pod. 667 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: Y'all go ahead and punch it. 668 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: Promo cold Hood if you in the cold brew and 669 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: get you some cold brew, gonna get you some coffee. 670 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I can't believe I ain't think of this 671 00:38:47,000 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: still right now, oh y'o. 672 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: This thing right here was recorded by Me Propaganda and 673 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: East Lows, boil Heights, Los Angeles, California. This thing was mixed, edited, mastered, 674 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: and scored by the one and the only Matt Awsowski. 675 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible. 676 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: Executive produced by Sophie Lichterman for Cool Zone Media. Man, 677 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 2: and thank you for everybody who continue to tap in 678 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: with us. Make sure you leaving reviews and five star 679 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: ratings and sharing it with the homies so we could 680 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: get this thing pushed up in the algorithm. 681 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: And listen. 682 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: I just want to remind you these people is not 683 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 2: smarter than you. If you understand city living, you understand politics. 684 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.