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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty arm.

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Speaker 2: Strong and Getty and Pee Armstrong and Getty Strong and.

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia Zoo announced last week that a pair of nearly

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Speaker 3: one hundred year old tortoises recently welcome their first hatchlings.

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Speaker 3: You may have seen the tortoises on the MTV show

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Speaker 3: ninety nine.

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Speaker 4: Pregnant markets are surging if you're listening to us live,

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Speaker 4: so the bounce back has begun. And get into that later. Also,

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Speaker 4: latest polling on the whole tariff thing, get into that

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Speaker 4: later also. And oh and I just saw the real

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Speaker 4: ID deadline is a month away. This is going to

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Speaker 4: be my all time greatest hit screw up because it's

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Speaker 4: been I've seen it coming for so long and known

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Speaker 4: the entire time for years that at some point I

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Speaker 4: will be at an airport ready to get on a

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Speaker 4: plane someplace I need to go, yes, and they'll say

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Speaker 4: we no longer accept your driver's license, you need your

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Speaker 4: real ID, even though I knew it for years, I

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Speaker 4: am that is going to happen to me.

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Speaker 5: I'll like your high school teacher assigned you a book

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Speaker 5: report due in twenty years and you waited until the

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Speaker 5: last night and you're up all night, right, that is

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Speaker 5: going to happen to me? Yeah, it's funny, Judy, And

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Speaker 5: I heard that report, and I have a feeling. I

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Speaker 5: spoke for many, many millions of Americans when I said,

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Speaker 5: do we have real IDs? I've completely lost track? Is

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Speaker 5: ours real? She looked at it and said, yeah, yes

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Speaker 5: we do. How that happened?

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Speaker 2: I don't recall, but I sure don't have one? Are

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Speaker 2: you sure? I'm positive you might. When did you last

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Speaker 2: for new year license?

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Speaker 4: I don't know?

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Speaker 2: So, so your driver's license?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh it is?

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Speaker 5: Well, maybe I did have a real like the updated

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Speaker 5: does it have like a hologrammy looking thing on there?

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Speaker 4: Or yeah? Yeah, there you go. Maybe I do have.

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Speaker 2: It done and done, sir. That's my point. Nobody has

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Speaker 2: any idea. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, speaking of economics and that sort of thing, which

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Speaker 5: a lot of people are doing these days in reference

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Speaker 5: to the tariffs.

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Speaker 2: But to this too shall pass, I hope eventually. Uh

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Speaker 2: And and some of.

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Speaker 5: The support and lack of support are coming from some

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Speaker 5: interesting areas for the tariffs, and we can talk about

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Speaker 5: that more later, but I'm kind of tariffed out.

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Speaker 2: We brought this up kind of briefly at the end

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Speaker 4: So you see I could talk about tariffs for many

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Speaker 4: more hours.

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Speaker 5: Well you should feel free. How about one room over anyway?

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Speaker 5: I found this so interesting, big survey of America's employers,

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Speaker 5: especially manufacturers. They cannot find reliable, conscientious workers who can

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Speaker 5: pass a drug test. A good worker, like a good man,

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Speaker 5: can be hard to find these days. And who is

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Speaker 5: this writing in the Alicia Finley, who I think is

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Speaker 5: a terrific writer, But she says, blame government, which showers

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Speaker 5: benefits on able bodied people who don't work well at

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Speaker 5: the same time subsidizing college degrees that don't lead to

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Speaker 5: productive employment, and the result is millions of idle men

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Speaker 5: and millions of unfilled jobs, what an economist would call

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Speaker 5: a dead weight loss to society.

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Speaker 4: So failing the drug test, is it mostly the marijuana,

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Speaker 4: the Mary Jane, the lettuce, the hippie let?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I suspect so though. Sure I

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Speaker 5: think it's mostly pot. But I think that it's just

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Speaker 5: brilliantly simply put, we are showering benefits on able bodied

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Speaker 5: people and subsidizing useless college degrees as as a people

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Speaker 5: because the government is theoretically doing our work right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I for one, don't like either end of that anyway.

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Speaker 5: Forty percent of small business owners and March reported job

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Speaker 5: openings they could not fill. Construction companies fifty six percent said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we have unfilled jobs and we can't find anybody. Transportation,

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Speaker 5: I have a feeling that's mostly truck drivers fifty three

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Speaker 5: percent manufacturing, which the President is, according to many people,

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Speaker 5: admirably trying to shepherd back inside the country. More forty

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Speaker 5: seven percent of manufacturers say, no, we've got openings we

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 5: So, according to the last week's National Federation of Independent

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Speaker 4: Be a flaw in the president's plan that hasn't been

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Speaker 4: discussed enough. He wants to bring back the fifties or

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Speaker 2: But back then people would do those jobs.

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Speaker 4: If half the manufacturing jobs out there or you can't fill.

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Speaker 2: Now, what if manufacturing did come.

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Speaker 4: Back to the United States, who, in theory is going

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Speaker 4: to do those jobs?

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Speaker 5: Well, not illegal immigrants, because thank god, the border has

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Speaker 5: been closed and the statistics are astounding.

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Speaker 2: Biden was a scoundrel anyway.

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Speaker 4: Was it going to be the woman who studies major

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Speaker 4: from your local university that goes works, They're probably not well.

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Speaker 5: It could well be the dudes who have no disability

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Speaker 5: on disability who are heaved off of that system, but

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Speaker 5: that would take some tough love, and that's not very

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Speaker 5: popular politically speaking. I mean, if you go into one

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Speaker 5: of the districts of the rust Belty places or Appalachia

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Speaker 5: on disability. Happened to read a couple things about this recently.

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Speaker 5: Didn't flog you with it on the air. But and

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Speaker 5: if you go into those places and say we're kicking

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Speaker 5: it off everybody on disability who's not like missing a limb,

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Speaker 5: you will lose an election by seventy points.

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Speaker 2: That's even possible.

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Speaker 5: Once people are on the toll man, once people have

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Speaker 5: a benefit, whether legitimate or perhaps questionable, taking it away

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Speaker 5: as political poison as you know, Labor Department's job openings

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Speaker 5: and labor turnover survey of businesses tell a similar story.

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Speaker 5: There are twice as many job openings in manufacturing now

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Speaker 5: than in the mid two thousands as a share of employment.

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Speaker 5: Save for the pandemic, America's workers shortage is the worst

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Speaker 5: in fifty years. Decades ago, productivity, enhancing technology and yes,

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Speaker 5: inexpensive imports costed men who worked on shop floors to

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Speaker 5: lose their jobs and drop out of the workforce. But

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Speaker 5: that generation is sailing into the sunset, and there are

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Speaker 5: many fewer young Americans who want to work in factories.

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Speaker 5: Listen to this now, the labor force participation rate among

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Speaker 5: points lower than in the early eighties. Okay, this is

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Speaker 5: not like the nineteen tens. This is the nineteen eighties,

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Speaker 5: five points lower. As a result, there are about three

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Speaker 5: three million between the ages of twenty five and thirty

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Speaker 5: four in a significantly bigger population than we had in

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Speaker 5: the eighties. Right then there would have been were it

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Speaker 5: not for this decline. Labor participation among working age women,

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Speaker 5: because they are having fewer children, and then people aren't

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Speaker 5: coupling and that sort of thing at the risk of

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Speaker 5: stereotyping women are more inclined toward helping professions such as

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Speaker 5: services than those that require physical labor.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's just true. It's undeniable.

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Speaker 4: So I've not done a manufacturing sort of job before,

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Speaker 4: so I don't know what it's like, but I certainly

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Speaker 4: feel like there's a social stigma around it that doesn't

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Speaker 4: help true.

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Speaker 2: Why it is?

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Speaker 4: Why there's not a social stigma around having a meaningless,

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Speaker 4: soul deadening paper pushing job in a cubicle, I don't

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Speaker 4: know why that is. I mean, maybe the other way

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Speaker 4: around should be. There shuldn't be any stigma around any jobs.

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Speaker 4: Working for a living is considerably better than not whatever

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Speaker 4: the hell you're doing.

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Speaker 5: So why at least the vestige of the twentieth century

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Speaker 5: where a job where you used your brain as opposed

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Speaker 5: to your back was seen as a higher status job.

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Speaker 2: God, I don't know some of these jobs or you

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Speaker 2: use your brain.

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Speaker 4: That's barely not much, I mean, but they certainly don't

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Speaker 4: seem like they'd be much more enjoyable as starter jobs.

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Speaker 2: Right, Tedious is tedious.

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Speaker 5: I had a sort of manufacturing job for one summer,

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Speaker 5: and it was pretty tedious. Honestly, but I'm sure it is.

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Speaker 5: You know why I go went ahead and took it

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Speaker 5: and kept it. It was because it paid pretty good.

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Speaker 5: It was my best hop right. So yeah, and well

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Speaker 5: you should have to make a living. You got to

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Speaker 5: support yourself somehow.

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Speaker 2: No, you don't. What kind of monster are you listen

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Speaker 2: to this? Would you?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 5: Where have all the good working men gone? Some are

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Speaker 5: subsisting on government benefits, are living off their parents. About

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Speaker 5: seventeen percent of working age men are on Medicaid, seventeen percent,

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Speaker 5: seven and a half percent on food stamps, and six

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Speaker 5: point three percent on Social Security, many claiming disability payouts.

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Speaker 2: According to the Census Bureau.

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Speaker 5: Many spend their days playing video games and day trading, well,

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Speaker 5: day trading hilarious, speculating on meme stocks, or you tell

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Speaker 5: somebody your day trading. I don't know how often you're

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Speaker 5: to say I just play video games and live in

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Speaker 5: my parents' basement, so you say you're your day trader.

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Speaker 5: So I don't remember our a good friend, Craig the

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Speaker 5: healthcare Genius's statistics. But if I remember correctly, originally Medicaid

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Speaker 5: was only supposed to cover like a tiny percentage people period.

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Speaker 2: Now it's covering percent.

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Speaker 4: Now it's covering And that would have been like the

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Speaker 2: Now it's seventeen percent of.

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Speaker 4: Working age men, not not like senior citizens.

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Speaker 2: That's nice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple more stats. Other missing men are taking

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Speaker 5: longer to finish college or pursuing graduate degrees. Only about

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Speaker 5: forty one percent amen complete a bachelor's degree in four years,

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Speaker 5: even though study after study shows they don't teach, you

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Speaker 2: There's great inflation. It's dopey.

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Speaker 5: Only forty one percent and a quarter take more than

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Speaker 4: Wow, because you're in no hurry to get out of college.

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Speaker 4: My dad used to comment about perpetual college students, and

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Speaker 4: I never really understood what he was talking about. And

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it was a small number of people back

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Speaker 4: when he was in college, but now it is a lot. Apparently,

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Speaker 4: I'll just stay in college. I'll just keep borrowing money.

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Speaker 4: And because I'm too young or unwise to understand what

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Speaker 4: I'm doing, and I'll just keep this game going. Of

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Speaker 4: I get to sit around with my friends and discuss

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Speaker 4: the world without ever having to engage in it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I have disability. My thumb hurts on Thursdays.

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Speaker 5: Final stat Then will I will stop? We're just we

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Speaker 5: are a fat, lazy, comfortable society. We're headed to front denial, right,

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Speaker 5: we are headed straight toward France.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The unemployment rate Jack considered this among recent college grads

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Speaker 5: with a sociology degree is about seven percent, and their

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Speaker 5: median wage, if they do have a gig, is forty

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Speaker 5: five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: According to the Federal Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 5: Social grads could earn twice as much working on an

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Speaker 5: auto assembly line, which pays an average hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: There was the we've added to twenty percent already thing

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Speaker 4: I don't know on self reporting on your mental health.

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Speaker 5: But liberals report an average score of fifty three and

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Speaker 5: Anyway, they take advantage of that's a moderate for you,

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Speaker 4: I realize what you just said about all these things.

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Speaker 4: But man, because I'm surrounded by this world, you would

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Whereas I live in a world of hey, we're

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Speaker 4: But I can't imagine being a twenty year old in

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Speaker 4: a lot of your blue cities and telling your parents

445
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Speaker 4: not I think I'm fine. You wouldn't want to disappoint

446
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Speaker 4: your parents like that by telling them you don't have

447
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Speaker 4: anxiety or depression or any of those things.

448
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Speaker 2: Yeah, your parents are horrified.

449
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Speaker 5: I know several young people, some of whom I may

450
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Speaker 5: be genetically related to, who are seem to be very bright,

451
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Speaker 5: very well adjusted, happy with their lives, but have some

452
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Speaker 5: of these modern emotional problems, and it makes me really curious.

453
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Speaker 5: As we've discussed many times through the years, what environmental

454
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Speaker 5: causes are going on. Is that the never ending barrage

455
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Speaker 5: of inputs, that's my greatest suspicion.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, we're.

457
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Speaker 2: Never quiet, we're never alone, we're never bored.

458
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Speaker 4: You're right in presenting this information, we're kind of or

459
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Speaker 4: I was kind of presenting it like this is all

460
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Speaker 4: somewhat imagined. But we have talked a lot about it,

461
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Speaker 4: and I know, I got one kid who has for

462
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Speaker 4: real anxiety depression OCD all that sort of stuff, and

463
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Speaker 4: it's been struggling with it his whole life and on medication,

464
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Speaker 4: and I've seen a gazillion psychiatrist and doctors and blah

465
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Speaker 4: blah blah. So yeah, there's something going on that is

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Speaker 4: causing problems, right, Yeah, so separating out that the real

467
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Speaker 4: from the just culturally, you live in a town where

468
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Speaker 4: everybody's supposed to have some of this stuff because life

469
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Speaker 4: is so hard and the world is.

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Speaker 5: So bad if you're keeping track at home. Just for

471
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Speaker 5: the record, Jack came to judge, Joe came to understand.

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Speaker 2: Damn right, I came to judge and then brag about it.

473
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Speaker 2: So let's be fair. I bragged about it anyway.

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Speaker 5: Uh So this is as I as I mentioned last segment,

475
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Speaker 5: the most miserable pastors in America appear to be progressive bisexuals.

476
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Speaker 5: If you are bisexual or other, and apparently there are

477
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Speaker 5: some conservatives there are at a fifty nine, which ain't great.

478
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Speaker 5: But if you're a progressive bisexual, you're at you selfrate

479
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Speaker 5: yourself at thirty five, which is I mean, like, by

480
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Speaker 5: far the most miserable people in America. I heard one

481
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Speaker 5: prominent lesbian writer. I read her right, well, what do

482
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Speaker 5: you want? These people want everything from the world, both sexes.

483
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 5: You know, everything goes with a How can the world

484
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Speaker 5: not disappoint them? Hmm?

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Speaker 4: I feel like I know a lot of baristas that

486
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Speaker 4: meet that description and they look unhappy. I don't know

487
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Speaker 4: that that's our facial expression anyway.

488
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and their voice buncle fry fizes. Interestingly, people who

489
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Speaker 5: have high interest in news and politics on both sides

490
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Speaker 5: of the aisle tend to be more happy with their

491
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Speaker 5: mental health.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm somewhat surprised by that, because it's enough to

494
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Speaker 5: make you insane.

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Speaker 2: Trust me, I do it for a living.

496
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Speaker 4: Huh.

497
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Speaker 5: And it declines low news and political interests significantly lower

498
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Speaker 5: on both sides.

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Speaker 4: Wow. Hmm. So they just take in the information about

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Speaker 4: the world just kind of the way they hear it

501
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Speaker 4: from people and get despondent over it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, having more income does seem to make you more

504
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Speaker 5: positive about your mental health.

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Speaker 2: That could be the other carosation correlation.

506
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Speaker 4: Yeah, reverse, Yeah, you're much more likely to make more

507
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Speaker 4: money if you're mentally Okay.

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Speaker 5: No meaningful difference in mental health between Catholics, Protestants, and

509
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Speaker 5: adherents of other organized religions. The differences between liberalists and

510
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 5: conservatives persist there, but religious adherence does soften them somewhat.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad to see there's not a big breakdown between

512
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Speaker 4: Protestants and Catholics.

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Speaker 5: Married people and people, and well, I know you want

514
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Speaker 5: to start another Holy war.

515
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Speaker 2: You're a big fan of Joan of arc.

516
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Speaker 5: But married people and people in domestic partnerships are happier

517
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Speaker 5: than those who are separated, widow, divorced, or who have

518
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Speaker 5: never been married.

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Speaker 4: That has been true for as long as we've been

520
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Speaker 4: doing radio and reading these studies that married people tend

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Speaker 4: to report being happier more than single people, which is

522
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Speaker 4: interesting given that so much of the single world looks

523
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Speaker 4: at married people. Is like, I'm glad I'm not in

524
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Speaker 4: that prison when statistically that is not born out at all.

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Speaker 2: Oh, not at all.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting they phrased it as happier when it's self

527
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: reported mental health. I'm not sure those are synonyms, but

528
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Speaker 5: I guess they're close.

529
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Speaker 4: I make they're pretty close.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, those are the main takeaways. Why are young

531
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Speaker 5: liberals so depressed? Matt Iglesia showed about.

532
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Speaker 4: You'd be depressed to the.

533
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Speaker 5: Part of it, the weird hair color and the thing

534
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 5: through their nose, old white couple, old white men. I

535
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: can't stand it, and he points out, Jack, you'll be

536
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Speaker 5: gratified by this that there may be a performative axed

537
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Speaker 5: aspect to this. Yes, liberals may express negative sentiment as

538
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Speaker 5: a sign of solidarity with the movement that thinks there

539
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 5: is profound injustice in the world. How can I act

540
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Speaker 5: happy with all this injustice?

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Speaker 4: You shouldn't.

542
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Speaker 2: Everybody will judge me.

543
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Speaker 4: You think you could walk into your hipster coffee shop

544
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Speaker 4: where you're a barista and there's like nine other employees

545
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Speaker 4: and be a everything's fine. You know, life is what

546
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Speaker 4: life is. I just I roll with the punches. You

547
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: think you could be that person?

548
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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, good days, bad days. What are you gonna do.

549
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 5: Let's make some coffee. Right, he's gonna be drummed out.

550
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 5: Let's just see what Trump did.

551
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is so clearly a fascist dictatorship.

552
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Speaker 2: Right to live. I've considered moving to Belgium.

553
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Speaker 4: I couldn't find a parking spot because of the patriarchy.

554
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Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, The

555
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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getdy Show.

556
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Speaker 5: Here's your freedom living quota today is from a gentleman

557
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Speaker 5: who celebrated his seventy seventh birth day yesterday. And he

558
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 5: should be a hero to young children, particularly black children,

559
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 5: all across America.

560
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Speaker 2: That's Clarence Thomas.

561
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Speaker 5: But he's been so denigrated in bad mouthed by the

562
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Speaker 5: liberal media.

563
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: He's not, but he was talking.

564
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Speaker 5: He gave a speech not too long ago about the

565
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Speaker 5: importance of standing up for truth, even if you're the

566
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Speaker 5: only one doing so. And here's the quote. You can

567
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Speaker 5: be in the middle of a hurricane, or you can

568
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 5: be on a calm day. North is still North. You

569
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 5: could be in a thunderstorm. North is still North. People

570
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 5: can yell at you. North is still North. It doesn't

571
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Speaker 5: change fundamental things. And in this business right is still

572
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 5: right even if you stand by yourself. Yeah, different version

573
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Speaker 5: of two plus two equals four.

574
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: No matter what, anybody else is.

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Speaker 5: Right exactly, Well said Clarence, and happy birthday, sir, mail bag.

576
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Speaker 2: I've got a couple more later in the.

577
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Speaker 5: Week from Clarence Thomas drops a note mail bag at

578
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Speaker 5: Armstrong in getty dot com.

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Speaker 2: Dirk's the German Rights It was a mostly peaceful bombing.

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Speaker 4: See.

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Speaker 5: Iran is a nation of over six hundred one thousand

582
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Speaker 5: square miles. The US bomb three small nuclear sites to

583
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Speaker 5: protest Iran's nuclear ambitions. It was clearly a mostly peaceful protest.

584
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Speaker 5: That's fantastic, Well done, Dirk.

585
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Speaker 4: How come nobody's commenting on the rest of Iran the

586
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Speaker 4: vast ninety nine percent of Iran that was untouched by bombs.

587
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Speaker 2: It RAN's a very big country.

588
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: It was just downtown Nukeville that had the problems.

589
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Well play. Dirk uh Don writes.

590
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Speaker 5: If President Trump Wonseranian women's support of regime change, could

591
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: she should offer swapping their burkes and other oppressive head

592
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 5: coverings for red make around Great again ball caps. Wow,

593
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Speaker 5: just ship cases of those over to Iran. Yeah, my

594
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: hair's covered with this truvy redhead. I just got take

595
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 5: that secret police. Of course, they've probably got the hell

596
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Speaker 5: beat out.

597
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Speaker 2: Of them for that, and then you'd be tortured and

598
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Speaker 2: then executed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see why I am not stressed out by

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Speaker 5: Steve and Everett Washington. Seems to me that two very

601
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Speaker 5: important metrics should be considered whether or not we're at

602
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Speaker 5: peace with the regional conflicts in the Middle East. One

603
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Speaker 5: did oil prices increase or decrease? It decreased significantly more

604
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Speaker 5: than ten bucks in barrel. Two did the Dow Jones

605
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Speaker 5: increase or don't look at the Dow, look at the

606
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Speaker 5: S and P five hundred? Did the S and P

607
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Speaker 5: increase or decrease? It increased the better part of one percent.

608
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Speaker 5: I'm not one to engage in industrial espionage, but I

609
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Speaker 5: trust the fact that Wall Street has those resources. If

610
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Speaker 5: the market seem to think things have calmed down, I'm

611
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Speaker 5: inclined to agree with them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Up again today on the ceasepire talks, although might

613
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Speaker 4: have more to do with the FED chair and what

614
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Speaker 4: he said about interest rates.

615
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Speaker 5: I was just reading about how uncertainty affects hiring and

616
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Speaker 5: investment in business, and I find myself wondering whether at

617
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Speaker 5: some point we become just more comfortable with a higher

618
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 5: level of volatility uncertainty as a culture.

619
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Speaker 4: Get we better get used to it or we're going

620
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Speaker 4: to go crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Poollo with an interesting topic. It looks like Iran

622
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Speaker 5: has at least a fly in the ointment of its

623
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Speaker 5: nuclear ambitions. It's probably only a bump in the road

624
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Speaker 5: for them. But it's not just Iran and nukes. We

625
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Speaker 5: have to worry about the development of technology and learning

626
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: generally is snowballing, and eventually just about everybody will have

627
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Speaker 5: the capacity to do great harm. May take a while,

628
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Speaker 5: I hope, very long while, but it's inevitable. How can

629
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Speaker 5: we avoid it except by our destruction or some sort

630
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Speaker 5: of great reset that sets us back centuries. We'll have

631
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Speaker 5: to hope that we get a lot wiser before our

632
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Speaker 5: knowledge progresses to the point where the power to destroy

633
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Speaker 5: ourselves is ubiquitous and available to just about everyone. JT

634
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Speaker 5: and Livermore makes the point that none of the former

635
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Speaker 5: presidents have come out and said, nice job Donald j getting,

636
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Speaker 5: you know, taking the nuclear capabilities away from Iraq.

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Speaker 4: That's a decent point considering I saw a montage of

638
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Speaker 4: Clinton Obama, Biden all saying Iran will never get a

639
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Speaker 4: nuclear weapon and doing very little about it, doing very

640
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 4: little about it in some cases helping them come along.

641
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Speaker 2: Let's see Tim who hates US rights?

642
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Speaker 5: Yay ww three a disgusting escalation guaranteed to give J

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Speaker 5: and J little chubbies in their dockers. Wow, that's unnecessarily

644
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Speaker 5: a graphic. And I'm not wearing docers sir as they

645
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Speaker 5: bloviate with that special studio.

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Speaker 2: Courage they're known for. Yeah, okay, your type.

647
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Speaker 4: So we have less of a chance of World War

648
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Speaker 4: three if Iran has a nuclear weapon. Explain that to me.

649
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Speaker 5: Well in the false arguments and bad faith arguments in

650
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Speaker 5: a very short email.

651
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Speaker 2: You know what.

652
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Speaker 5: I respect your ability to cram so many bad faith

653
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Speaker 5: arguments into the sentence and a half.

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Speaker 2: A chubby in my dockers.

655
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Speaker 5: Let's see Byron rights and there have invariations on this

656
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: attempt at humor. Trump's newest golf project is coming together.

657
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Speaker 5: He just established the first three holes of his new

658
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Speaker 5: eighteen hole golf CORER.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

660
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Speaker 5: That would be the nuclear facility as of Iran. Jack

661
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Speaker 5: the holes in the ground.

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Speaker 4: I was tracking instead of yes, okay, It wasn't that

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Speaker 4: I didn't laugh, because understand it. I understood how I

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Speaker 4: see Armstrong and Getty