1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the Vice President of the United States 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: involved in a call. You've got all these commissioners. We'll 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: talk to the commissioner of the PGA Tour. He'll join 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: us tomorrow. Golf is starting to get maybe a little 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: closer to inching back having some competition there because there's 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: other tournaments. We look at the majors. British Open canceled, 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, the Masters has been pushed back to November. 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: US Open has been pushed back, PGA Championship has been 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: pushed back, not canceled, but the British Open has been canceled. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: But there's other golf events that are going to be 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: happening before those majors. So we'll talk to Commissioner Monahan. 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: Hill will join us coming up tomorrow. We were talking 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: about best uniforms. USA today had the rankings here, you know, 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: the worst uniform ranking and I don't think this is fair, 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: but I think we look at the franchise therefore the uniformed. 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: A uniform looks better when you win. Let's face it, 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: the cream sickle uniforms with the Buccaneers didn't look great 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: when they came out in the seventies because they weren't 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: very good. They had the Selman brothers and that was 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: about it. Steve Spurrier, Uh, Steve Young came in for 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: a brief visit. Doug Williams came in. The worst uniform 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL. This according to USA Today. You guys 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: want to guess, um, n Cleve and will start with you, 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: weren't uniform based on your teas the Bengals because they've 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: been bad Bengals. No, they're not in the bottom ten 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: right now. Uh, here's the description hideous color scheme wed 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: to a logo that rubs people the wrong way. Yes, 29 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: come on down. Wow. Yeah, the second worst uniform. Remember 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: when the Bills were using all that piping and heavy 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: color swatching all over the shoulders a decade ago, you 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: would have thought that no one would ever try to 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: replicate that look. Alas, the Arizona Cardinals second worst uniforms. 34 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: It's according to Nate Davis USA Today. I thought this 35 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: would be the team that had the worst uniforms just 36 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: because of their helmets. The thirtieth ranked uniform in the 37 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: NFL is Yes, Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah, poet Jacksonville's cleaned it 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: up in the past three years. They've cleaned up the 39 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: helmets and they also went with that white on white, 40 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: almost like a Penn State look. With that uniform with 41 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett looks even more fearsome. With they've cleaned up 42 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: Jacksonville a little bit. It's the problem with Jacksonville really 43 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: just the helmet. For me, it is, but I can't 44 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: get other than that, that's a pretty solid uniform. Well, 45 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know what that color was of, Like, it 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: wasn't brown, and it wasn't gold, and I didn't know 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: what it was. So that kind of was one of 48 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: those if I went to, you know, Crayons or Sherman Williams, 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: I'd go, what color is this? And I'm not quite 50 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: sure that bothered me. The twenty ninth ranked uniform they 51 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: ripped Atlanta's rollout on Twitter. But a team that looks 52 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: more XFL than NFL doesn't have a paw to stand 53 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: on your Carolina Panthers. Yeah. Twenty eight there's the Cleveland Browns. Wow. Okay, 54 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: twenty seven is the Titans. I hate the numerals on there. 55 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: The imagery of a Roman centurion is kind of cool 56 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: with the shoulder flaps and the sword sheath on the hip. 57 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: But the Navy helmets were an upgrade. That just too 58 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: much going on here. I disagree a little bit. I 59 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: think the Titans have some nice color combos. It gets 60 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: a little busy, but they have a SEC old school 61 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: seventies SEC field. You know SEC wasn't around the seventy. Uh. 62 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: It's a terrible use of a great color in those uniforms. Okay, 63 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: all right, this one's gonna hurt. It's not just it's 64 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: it's it's just not wearing well as nineteen nineties as friends, 65 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: And the problem is amplified by how sharp their color 66 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: rush uniforms are. You're Denver Broncos twenty sixth worst uniform 67 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Sorry, touch, that's insane. Yeah, sorry, all right, 68 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: it's absolutely correct because when the Broncos do that color 69 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: rush and they go back to the dark blue on 70 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: a Thursday night, they look fantastic. All right, here's your 71 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: top five New Orleans Saints. Now, the old gold that 72 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: they went back to is pretty I love the white 73 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: with the gold, the old gold. I think that is 74 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: as sharp as any uniform in football. Number four on 75 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: the list is going to be a shocker. Shocker. I 76 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: don't even I can't even give the description they have 77 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: in USA today because you'd give it away. Anybody want 78 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: to guess number four on the list best uniforms in 79 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: the NFL see no counter the Steelers. No, No, Steelers 80 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: got an awesome uniform. Yeah, although they only had the 81 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: logo on one side of the helmet, which is kind 82 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: of cool. Yeah, but I never understood that why they 83 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: only did on one side, Like was it budgetary reasons 84 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: or something? But they only have it on one side, Like, 85 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys don't have a star on just 86 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: one side? Does Green Bay doesn't have the g or 87 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: the Bears don't have a ceo on one side? Gampoint 88 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: the Packers number four? I think Packers are top five. 89 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Easy Packers are not in the top five. That's blasphemous. 90 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: Your Seattle Seahawks are the fourth best uniform. And I'm 91 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: like which uniform? Who wrote the skip bayliss The College 92 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: Navy and action Green reflect the Emerald city and as 93 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: does the logo a callback to a mask designed by 94 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: Indiana native to the Pacific Northwest. All right, number three, 95 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: you're Pittsburgh Steelers number two on the list. I have 96 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: no problem with this. You're Los Angeles Chargers, the best 97 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: uniform in all the football your Vegas Raiders. Yeah. According 98 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: to USA Today, it doesn't get better than the Silver 99 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: and Black, who feature an awesome color scheme, fantastic logo, 100 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: overall clean look since its inception in nineteen sixty four. 101 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: That guy's good writer, that USA Today. I like the 102 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: USA Today. Not a lot of words, short articles like them? 103 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Is that you're John Gruden? Yeah, I like the USA 104 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: to Day. Oh, okay, them USA to Day's ers. They 105 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: know what they're talking about journalism. Yes, Paul, and Ohio 106 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: joins us. Hi, Paul, what do you have for me today? Yeah? Adan, 107 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: if i've foot nutting one thirty, okay, I've been watching 108 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: the Rams since the early sixties, and you can't change 109 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: the helmet, but I mean the logo. I can deal 110 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: with the logo. I mean that's with the kids, not 111 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: a not a. Also, I have a I have a 112 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: I want to revisit the Shower of Shame I turned 113 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: down on Friday. I'll take the Rams to win the West, Okay, 114 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: if that if that would be cool with you guys. Yeah. Also, 115 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: I had a suggestion for your for your t shirts. 116 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: You know, since you got Tampa Bay, what about like 117 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: stitting with our guy? What do you think? So? Oh no, 118 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: no that that that No, you will leave it to 119 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: Fritzie to come up with the bad you know, puns here. 120 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: Oh that was tough. Yeah, sorry, Paul, but thank you. Yeah, 121 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: and now I can't go with that one. If Cam 122 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: Newton goes to New England, then I think we have something, right, Fritzie, 123 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: we absolutely do. We have to thank you from thank you, 124 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Are we on the air right now? Yeah? 125 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: We are? Ye, yeah, I six minutes. Yeah, I clicked 126 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: something and it took me to Microsoft word by accident. 127 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: That's what the delay was. Stay with me here, let's 128 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: stay with me. I was trying to I was trying 129 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: to click my mic button and I clicked with the 130 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: icon next to it, and all of a sudden Microsoft 131 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: word came up. But to any from Newton would be 132 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: good for the Patriots. Thank you, tod all right. Yesterday 133 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: we had a brief period of NFL excitement as the 134 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: rumor caboun on sports talk radio that the Browns maybe 135 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: contemplating trading Odell Beckham Junior, the third of the Vikings. Well, 136 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: it didn't take a long friend of reporters to say, no, 137 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that's true, but hey, sports talk radio, 138 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: social media, we needed something talking heads. It was just 139 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: a rumor I'm hearing. That's where it's dangerous. You hear things, 140 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: but you want to be able to report things that 141 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: are accurate. And I'm not given a tutorial here. It's 142 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: just when people say, hey, i'm hearing, they think it's fact. 143 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: And I checked the source and I said, are the 144 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: Vikings interested in Odell Beckham? And at first my source said, well, 145 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: they got to get a number one receiver, and I go, okay, 146 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: Adam Feelings, not your number one receiver. You lose dig 147 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: to the Bills. And I go, it just seems strange 148 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: that the Vikings would want to bring in Odell Beckham 149 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: after getting rid of Stephan Diggs. And then my source 150 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: came back this morning and said they're going to look 151 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: at drafting a wide receiver that they're not going to 152 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: trade for Odell Beckham. Now that doesn't mean that, you know, 153 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: there wasn't some validity to this, but when you're hearing 154 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: that could be, hey, you guys interested in Odell Beckham? 155 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let me check back, and then it 156 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: could be Nope, we're not well, you were hearing that, 157 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: they were talking about it, but there was no Now, 158 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: I know people attached draft picks to this, and look, 159 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: maybe it's true. I'm just going buy my source. And 160 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: you know there was a second in a fifth round 161 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: attached to Odell Beckham. But if I'm Minnesota and I 162 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: know Mike Zimmer, You're not going to do this. You're 163 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: not bringing in Odell Beckham after just getting rid of 164 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. Kirk Cousins needs some calmness there, all right, 165 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: But it was I'm hearing that. So with no games 166 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: to talk about, we dissect every personnel move like it's groundbreaking. 167 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, the Bears trade for Nick Foles. My god, 168 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: that's an hour. Dak Prescott has a dinner party. We 169 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: spent a whole show on that, the possibility of trades. 170 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: What's going to happen? Joe Burrows here going to the Bengals? 171 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: Who is two? Are going three or twenty three? Everything 172 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: is on steroids right now. It's like it's so important. 173 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: There's no basketball games to distract us right now, there's 174 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: no baseball games to distract us. So it's hey, do 175 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: you think the Lions would take two? I don't know, 176 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm hearing. I still go back to the following. The 177 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: second most important player on the field in my opinion, obviously, 178 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: the first is quarterback. The second is your edge rusher. 179 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: Every team needs to have one because this is a 180 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: pass happy league. Von Miller won a Super Bowl for 181 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: the Broncos. Okay, you have to have you know, the 182 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs needed defense to win the Super Bowl. You have 183 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: to have an edge rusher, or it's probably wise to 184 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: have an edge rusher. You know, San Francisco because their defense. 185 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Bosa could have been the VP of the 186 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. If San Francisco wins, maybe the edge rush 187 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: or rookie is the MVP of the Super Bowl. The 188 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: importance of having that ability to put pressure on your quarterback. 189 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: So if Chase Young is a once in a generation player, 190 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: which would be hard for him to be once in 191 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: a generation player if we just had Bosa, who could 192 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: have been the MVP in the Super Bowl. But I 193 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: haven't heard one team one even I'm hearing, willing to 194 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: go up and get Chase Young. Is he untouchable from 195 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: the Redskins perspective, because if I'm the Redskins, I wouldn't 196 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: make him untouchable. Somebody wants to give me a couple 197 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: of first round picks, we give up those first round picks. 198 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: When's the last time that we did something like this 199 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: in a draft where we went up to draft a 200 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: defensive player or an offensive player who's not a running 201 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: back or a quarterback. It seems rare, but you know, 202 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: defense is you eventually, and I know I say this, 203 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm a broken record. At some point in the season, 204 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: you will need a defensive stop to help you win 205 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: a big game. You will need that. You may not 206 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: be a defensive minded team, but you will need players 207 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: who make players. Right. But you look at what Chris 208 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: Jones of the Chiefs did in the Super Bowl. Have 209 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: you have to have that the last draft? You have 210 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: to have that. So Chase Young is considered the best 211 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: prospect in the draft, right, nobody's arguing that best player 212 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: in the draft. He's a given, but nobody's going up 213 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: to get him, which I'm shocked at. I really am. 214 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst, was on Doug Gottlieb Show 215 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: yesterday and he talked about the Redskins and Chase Young. 216 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: I can't see the Redskins passing on Chase Young, can you? No? 217 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: I've heard all that, you know, chatter about potentially wanting 218 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: to get out of there and all that. I just 219 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: you don't trade off of an opportunity to get a 220 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: premier edge rusher. You don't. It's the second most important 221 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: position in the game. He's right there in your lap. 222 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Don't screw it up. I don't see them from making 223 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: another decision there. Okay, But why is it Joe Burrow's 224 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: worth four number one picks? Or why don't you go 225 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: up and get Joe Burrow? Or you trade up for 226 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: Jared Goff or you trade up for Mitchell Trubisky. I 227 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: get you're trading up for a quarterback, but you know 228 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: you're still waiting on Is Jared Goff a franchise quarterback? 229 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: You're still waiting on Mitchell Trubisky. Chase Young comes in 230 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: day one and is impactful for you two. I'm just 231 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: surprised because I haven't heard one whisper the Redskins may 232 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: want to get out of there. Nobody's willing to go 233 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: up there and pay the price. But I think everybody 234 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: agrees Chase Young is the best player in the draft, 235 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: or at least he's the one sure thing whether that's 236 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: true or not. And I think if you look at 237 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Ohio State players, for the most part, they live up 238 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: to the hype. Alabama players don't necessarily live up to 239 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: the hype. And as a source said to me yesterday, 240 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: Nick puts him through hard practices. You stay there for 241 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: three or four years, you have added a lot of 242 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: mileage on your body there, and you'll see some Alabama 243 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: players who aren't great when they get to the NFL. 244 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: But Ohio State players for the most part, and you 245 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: start to look at and you're gonna have you could 246 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: have the second and third pick both from that Ohio 247 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: State defense, so the edge rusher, and you start to 248 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,119 Speaker 1: think how they lose, Like you've gotten the best cornerback 249 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: who's going to start right away probably for the Detroit Lions, 250 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: and Chase Young who starts right away for the Washington Redskins. 251 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: And you had a great quarterback, Like you had a 252 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: lot of things and didn't win the national championship. Yes, 253 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: mclovin and Clemson have like five of those guys too, 254 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: though that's what I recall. Yeah, but Chase Young is 255 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: going he's the best player in the draft. Jefferkuda is 256 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: the best defensive back who's going to go third. Perhaps 257 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: I was wondering, Dan, can you avoid a defensive end, 258 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Like remember how we talked about teams of a JJ 259 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: Watt at his peak sometime like he sort of work 260 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: around him a little bit. Well, the only way you 261 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: avoided him is when he got hurt. And what happens 262 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: is it's this is going to sound strange, but you 263 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: avoid somebody by going at them. Alan Page was one 264 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: of the great defensive lineman with the Minnesota Vikings, the 265 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: Purple People leaders. His pursuit was so great that you 266 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: ran at him. And I think with Chase Young, do 267 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: you go at him to then somehow avoid him because 268 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: he's going to be able to track you down. The 269 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: same with Bosa, but with an edge rusher. You can 270 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: try to go away from him, but they're going to 271 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: track you down. You almost have to go at the 272 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: person you're trying to avoid, which sounds counterintuitive, but I 273 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I'm Dan Orlovsky who's stars on the 274 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: Rise of the Mothership will join us coming up to 275 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: get his thoughts. Why is nobody talking about trading up 276 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: for Chase Young and is too a really falling? Is 277 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: it that much of a free fall here? And we 278 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: talked about the just and Herbert rumors, and the Justin 279 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: Herbert rumors were true. Miami is interested in Justin Herbert. 280 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: This isn't a smokescreen. Miami is truly interested in Justin Herbert. Yeah, Poe. 281 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: We always say, don't believe what you hear at draft time. 282 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: And if the conventional rumors the past three or four 283 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: days is two is falling in the draft, who would 284 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: be floating that and who would it help? I've been 285 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: thinking about this. I'm not sure the answer. So who 286 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: would float that rumor out there? And the goal be what? Like, 287 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: would Miami float that out there so they don't have 288 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: to trade up to get them? Could be because that 289 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: would be the type of thing you'd float to a 290 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: bunch of media people and hope that it benefits me. 291 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: How But I never listened to a team official because 292 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: I just I get nervous when somebody tells me, you know, 293 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: what they really feel. But most people do listen. It's 294 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: just I've learned that their job is not to tell 295 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: me the truth. It doesn't make any sense. You don't 296 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: get extra credit for being honest with the media. We'll 297 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: take a break. Dan Olovski will join us. By the way, 298 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: Boomer Siason. Boomer likened Joe Burrow to the Bengals like 299 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: Lebron to the Cavalier, So we'll talk to Boomer coming up, 300 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: and the golfer Bubba Watson will stop by coming up 301 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: top of the hour or back after this on The 302 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 303 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 304 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 305 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 306 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or 307 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 308 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: searching f s R. Okay, so, seventy and ninety nine, 309 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: and the first person to guess it wins the prize. 310 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: They get T show TB show T shirts, so we'll 311 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: have that for you. Seventy and ninety nine. Yeah, okay, 312 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: any hints there. Historic is the word I'll use for 313 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: it's story. It's historic. That's all you get. Okay, historic, 314 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: first person to guess it gets some a DP show gear. 315 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: And by the way, we have you know what just 316 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: came in Seaton Beer here T shirts? Yes, yes, awesome, 317 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: Yes we have that. We'll unveil those coming up next live. 318 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: Look in here, we got a box of beer here 319 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: T shirts here. Love it for a good cause. You 320 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: can go to uh dan Patrick dot com for the 321 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: DP show store. We'll got an update on the poll 322 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: question there, mclovin. Yeah, do you like old school or 323 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: new school uniforms? As you'd expect? Sixty four percent say 324 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: old school a little closer than in thought. Yeah, what it? 325 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: You know. Our our target audience, though, is going to 326 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: be different than the audience that the people trying to 327 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: sell these uniforms too would be. What about when you 328 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: were eighteen and looking at colleges and stuff like that, 329 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: did you care? No. I grew up when I was 330 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: really young with the Browns uniforms. We're pretty simple. And 331 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: then I went to Cincinnati, moved outside of Cincinnati, had 332 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals uniforms. Those were horrible looking uniforms, horrible, boring. Absolutely, 333 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: the Chargers came to town. I snuck into the game 334 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: at NIPPERD Stadium, and I saw that Chargers take the 335 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: field and changed my life. I went Oh my god, 336 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: look at those uniforms. It was as if I had 337 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: watched sports in black and white, and all of a 338 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: sudden I had color TV, and I had John Hadel 339 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: who had number twenty one is the quarterback? I go, 340 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: who's got twenty one is a quarterback number? They had 341 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: Dickie Post, Gary Garrison, Lance Allworth. Oh my god, there's 342 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: uniforms that were spectacular. Yeah, point Dan. I'm looking back 343 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: though at a picture of the Bengals from the seventies. 344 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: They have an orange helmet, white jerseys, dark brown numbers, 345 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: three stripes, and a simple Bengals on there. For some reason, 346 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: now it looks old school and cool, and compared to 347 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: their tiger stripes, it was just boring, that's all. Like 348 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys look great. You can have a clean looking uniform, 349 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: but it can be boring as well. You know, the 350 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Packers were great, The Steelers were great, The Niners look great. 351 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: It is amazing, though, if you win, your uniform somehow 352 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: looks a whole lot better. Dan Orlovsky Star is on 353 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: the Rise of the Mothership. ESPN Football islands former NFL 354 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: quarterback and you can check him out on Get Up 355 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: with My Greenberg Sports Center, NFL Live and other programs. 356 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Best uniform you played in was what Dan Well played 357 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: him Definitely the Creamsicle Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We got to 358 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: wear them once and these were like the old school 359 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: material too, so the comfort of them was atrocious, but 360 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: the feel of or like the look of them was awesome. Now, 361 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: this is when we stunk, so we probably got dragged 362 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: by whoever we played. But the best one I played 363 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: in is the Tampa Bay Buccaneer creamsicle or the Lions 364 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day throwbacks when it's just all blue jersey, all 365 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: gray numbers, great hands, and all blue helmet. Those were 366 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: the cleanness that I've warned myself. All right, Dan, that's 367 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: all we wanted from you. Thank you, We appreciate your time. 368 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: My best segment of the year. Yeah, I was just 369 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: talking about this that the second most important position on 370 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: the field is an edge rusher in my opinion, so 371 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: you have the quarterback and you have the edge rusher. 372 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you agree or not, but I'll 373 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: let you give me your opinion on that in a moment. 374 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Why is it nobody wants to trade up to get 375 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Chase Young if he is a generational, you know, once 376 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: in a decade kind of pass rusher in the best 377 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: player in the draft. I haven't heard one trade scenario 378 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: to go up and get him one. Yeah, i'd say 379 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: number one. There are some people, and I've had conversations 380 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: with guys about this, that do believe he went ghosts 381 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: the last three games of the year, that he was 382 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: minimized and shut down, and especially in the Clenson game. 383 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: People pointed that I disagree with that point. I actually 384 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: thought the teams that played them down the stretch were 385 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: conscious of him and getting the ball out of their hands. 386 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: Weighed quicker than normal. I think there's the reality that 387 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance Washington trades to pick 388 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: I just don't. I mean Ron Rivera and Jack del 389 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: Rio there. Washington's defensive line is going to be a 390 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: major problem because just as a quarterback makes everybody better, 391 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: a dominant defensive lineman makes all those other defensive lineman better. 392 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: And so now Montes Sweat is going to be better, 393 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: and Pain's going to be better, and Jonathan Allen's going 394 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: to be better because of the addition to Chase Down. 395 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: So I don't think Washington would be willing to move 396 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: from that pick, I would disagree with you, the edge 397 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: rusher being more more important than the interior rusher. Two reasons. 398 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: One the usage of the field, the spread of the field. 399 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Coaches are much more aware that the football field is 400 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: actually fifty three and the third yards wide, and much 401 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: more willing to use all of that space. And so 402 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: now I always try to express it like this. I 403 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: think of an offensive line, and traditionally, over the last 404 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: thirty years of the NFL, you know, the offense of 405 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: line is tackled to tackle for the most part, and 406 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: that's probably a six or seven yard wide space. And 407 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: once the ball has traditionally been snapped because we weren't 408 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: using space as much. The fieldwise with the offensive line 409 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: is like an accordion that gets shrunk, and so those 410 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: pass rushers get closer and closer to the quarterback that 411 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: are taking these five and seventh that drops and sitting 412 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: in the pocket. Well, now coaches expand the offensive line 413 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: more at the ball being snapped, whether it's the use 414 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: of lateral play action, which is much more part of 415 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: the NFL now than it used to be, the quick 416 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: passing game and the screen game, the lateral run game 417 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: is much more used than the downhill run game. And 418 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: then the second thing it would be is how quickly 419 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: the ball gets out of quarterbacks hands. I mean, we 420 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: see the ball get out of quarterbacks hands with the 421 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: RPO game way faster than it used to be. You know, 422 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: what was the last time you saw a quarterback under 423 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: center and take a seven step drop just traditional dropback, 424 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: not a play action game. It's just it's not part 425 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: of the game as much anymore. And so the interior 426 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: pass rusher as close to the quarterback this possible person 427 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: is more valuable for me and my experience than the 428 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: edge rusher. Yeah, I get that, because that's why Aaron 429 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: Donald is so valuable. He's disruptive in the middle. Plus 430 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback, he can get there quicker 431 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: than the edge rusher can. And if you're taking less 432 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: than you know, two and a half seconds, get rid 433 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 1: of the football. You know, let's the closest distance between 434 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, two dots here go straight right at So 435 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: I understand that if you look at these drafts, and 436 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: I've said this, it seems like every year I say 437 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: the same thing. We build up a quarterback and then 438 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: we tear him down as we get closer to the draft, 439 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: So it's a roller coaster ride for these guys. Hey, 440 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: this guy's unbelievable in March, then all of a sudden April, Uh, 441 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, the guy's not a top ten pick. So 442 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: we didn't do it with Burrow. We did it and 443 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: we're still doing it with Tuah Herbert Lee. He's sort 444 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: of on the rise now. Jordan Love got some attention there. 445 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: But how do you sort of sort this all out 446 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: and understand what teams are thinking about these players? Yeah, 447 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't really believe in ranking the quarterbacks like one 448 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: through three, four, five, six. I look at him like, Okay, 449 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: what guys are in the best position trade wise or 450 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: skill set wise to be bona fide stars, like to 451 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: be guys that you can just count on for the 452 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: next fifteen years to be rock stars, no matter really 453 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: who their coaches or who there who's around them. Skill set, 454 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: why these guys are gonna be great players. And it's 455 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: Burrow twa. Those are the two players quarterback wise in 456 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: this draft, Like Joe Burrow. If you looked at the 457 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: grates in the NFL over the last twenty years at 458 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: that position, and you and you just kind of took 459 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: away the first thing that pops in your head when 460 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: you think about that player. Joe Burrow has it, like Okay, 461 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady a poise for clutchness, when Joe Burrow's got 462 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: that Drew Brees accuracy, when Joe Burrow has that Ben 463 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger pocket movement. Joe Burrow's ridiculous ad is if you 464 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: look at Russell Wilson is instincts. Joe Burrow has all 465 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: that stuff. These are things that so many people overlook 466 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: because they're really difficult to measure unless you've you know, 467 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: really trained your eyes to see it. Joe Burrow's got 468 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: all of that, like all of it. To Ah is 469 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: very similar in that regard, like to his accuracy is 470 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: the greatest attribute that he has. It's also the most 471 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: important attribute physically a quarterback that kid have, and so 472 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: his ability to get through progressions. I call it the 473 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: most programmed quarterback in the draft. Not robotic, but programs. 474 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: So those two guys are rock stars. They're gonna be 475 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: studs if healthier too. Obviously, Herbert to me is like 476 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: my analogy has been, like you know, when you go 477 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: house shopping and you see this house, it's it's a 478 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: beautiful home and it's got all the upgrades and it 479 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: should sell really well, but it just sits up the 480 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: market because every time you see the house, you go, man, 481 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: something's wrong with that. It just doesn't feel right. And 482 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: and I've kind of sent this tweet out the other day. 483 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: Think of all the quarterbacks that we've talked about in 484 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: the draft in the last fifteen twenty years, that when 485 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: the first two or three things out of people's mouth 486 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: are he's big, be strong, he's athletic, he's got a 487 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: powerful arm. Like, think of all those guys and all 488 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: more more often than not, those cats have failed. And 489 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about that. When it came to 490 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: Brady Russell, Wilson, Breeze, big band, I didn't say anything 491 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: about that because that stuff doesn't matter. We look at 492 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks the same way we look at all the other positions. Big, strong, athletic, powerful. 493 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: It should be the other way, the mental. And so 494 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: that's what concerns me about Justin Herbert is like, no 495 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: one's going, man, it's got great instincts, or gosh's accuracy 496 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: is ridiculous, or he's just got this ability to make 497 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: all these different kinds of throws. Those are all the 498 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: things that people talk about are like that I talk 499 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: about that he struggles with and I just go, man, 500 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: I would have a lot of concern about that because 501 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: it's the most important physical attributes of the quarterback position. 502 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: And then for Jordan Love, you know, Jordan Love is 503 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: the most intriguing probably guy because he does more stuff 504 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: that you can't coach, more wow stuff. You go, man, 505 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: I just can't coach that throw. I can't coach that throw. 506 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: I kind of related to this Patrick Mahomes, who who 507 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: has he has been compared to. I don't see that, 508 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: but Patrick Mahomes has this recess style of football where 509 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: like he's the best kid on the playground and it's 510 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: under control and he's just toying with people. And Jordan 511 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: Look has a reckless style of football where it looks 512 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: somewhat similar, but goodness, it's reckless. And so listen, if 513 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: you can coach him up to be more recessed and reckless, 514 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: then yeah, you might have something to work with. But 515 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm not taking him until later in the first round. 516 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: I I'm gonna go with your analogy here with Justin Herbert. 517 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: There's a house and there's a home. He might be 518 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: a house as a quarterback, where Joe Burrow or twa 519 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: could be a home. And there's a big difference in 520 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: that it looks great, but it is is it going 521 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: to be a home if the team if you pass 522 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: on to it to take justin Herbert finish that sentence. 523 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: You're scared to be great, You're you're okay with trying 524 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: to be mediocre. But is it the fear of taking 525 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: him or the fear of not taking him? Which one 526 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: do you think is stronger in this draft? With Tah 527 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: the fear of taking him. And I've said that, I 528 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: said that in January. It's going to take courage to 529 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: take Tuh. Let's be honest, It's going to take courage 530 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: to pass on Toah because this is the same guy 531 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: that and Kirk Kirkstreet's great, right, Kirk Kirkstreet is outstanding 532 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: at what he does, and I think he's got a 533 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: great feel and understanding of that spot deposition college football. 534 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: It's the same person, the same player that came into 535 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: the National Championship game and Kirk kirk Street on the 536 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: broadcast said Alabama's gonna be okay. This kid is ridiculous. 537 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: It's the same coach in Nick Saban, who we all 538 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: say is that one of the greatest coaches of all 539 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: time who decided to go to that player in that moment. 540 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: And so if a team decides to draft Justin Herbert, 541 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: it's just they are so scared that is going to 542 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: become hurt, that they're they're willing to become to chase 543 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: mediocrity than greatness. They'd rather play it safe. And it's funny. 544 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: I was just watching First Take and Michael Jordan was 545 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: talking about the Last Dance thing, and he was talking 546 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: about in his first year he had an injury and 547 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: the doctors told him there's a there's a ninety percent 548 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: chance you won't get hurt, and there's a ten percent 549 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: chance that you'll get hurt and you'll end your career. 550 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: And Jordan looked at him like, but I'm like, I'm 551 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: trying to be great. There's a ninety percent chance. There's 552 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: a ninety percent chance that if you dressed to a 553 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: tongue of viola, you're gonna become great as an organization. 554 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: He's that stinking good. But if you want to bet 555 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: on the ten percent because you're scared, then that that's 556 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: on you. And later that year in the playoffs and 557 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: Jordan puts sixty three on the Celtics in the garden. Yeah, 558 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: I just I just like listen and I brought this up. Okay, 559 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: so look at the past like ten years in the NFL, Like, okay, Saints, 560 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Like you don't get great in the NFL without taking risk. 561 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: The Saints went on sidekick in the Super Bowl ten 562 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: eleven years ago and the Super Bowl at halftime. The 563 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: Eagles a couple of years ago, as the number one team, 564 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: decided to go into the playoffs with a backup quarterback 565 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: and ran a trick play on fourth and goal that 566 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: the Chiefs traded up to get a quarterback from Texas 567 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: Tech when they didn't need to they had a veteran 568 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: or a playoff football team. The Ravens took a quarterback 569 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: in Lamar Jackson that couldn't fit into the NFL. Like you, 570 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: if you want to become a great championship caliber organization 571 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 1: and you want to become great, you've got to take risks. 572 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: Like you've got to take risks. And I just look 573 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: at to it and go. The quarterbacks are getting way 574 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: more protected in the NFL than they are in college football, 575 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: way more protected, and I think he has the brain 576 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: to mature enough to realize I don't have to prove 577 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: my toughness every single play. Get the ball out, and 578 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: there's other plays to play if I would take them. 579 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Hey, it's great to talk to you. I'm 580 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: happy for your success. You've done well and you put 581 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: in the work, and you know, maybe in a couple 582 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: of months you come here to the man Caven. We'll 583 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: teach you how to throw football. O. Well, listen, man, 584 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: it's an absolute honor. I obviously grew up on you, 585 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: so it's a privilege. I'm glad to be with you. Finally, 586 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: I would love to come to the man Cave. I 587 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: can use all the help I can get. Thank you, Dan, 588 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Tell Greeney, we said, Aloup, Well, 589 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: that's Dan Orlovsky. He went to Yukon drafted by the Lions. 590 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: And you know there's that it's not a highlight, but 591 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: it is a highlight. That's a low light for Dan 592 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: where he went out of the end zone and you 593 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: know it was his self imposed safety. So he doesn't 594 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: know that he's backing up to throw a pass from 595 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: his end zone. He goes out of the end zone 596 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: and doesn't he have like his charity or something, or 597 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: didn't he say something like he's all in favor of 598 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: a moving the end zone to eleven yards? Balling Dan 599 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: Orlovski's Twitter profile that he wrote that's up on his 600 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: Twitter retire twelve year NFL VET married to a cool chick, 601 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: Dan Triplet boys end zone should be eleven yards. That's 602 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: a good line. All right, We'll take a break, we'll 603 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: come back and got to that of the day. We'll 604 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: update the poll results. Top of the hour. Bubba Watson 605 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: will join us and boomeris Sciason from CBS. So all 606 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: of that coming up the next all hour or so. 607 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 608 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 609 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 610 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 611 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live every day at YouTube dot 612 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: com slash The Dan Patrick Show. It feels like you're 613 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: firmly planted in what your opinion is of who you 614 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: think is the greatest of all time. And what happens 615 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: is when we're growing up, we're so attached to those 616 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: memories far more than we are when we get older, 617 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: when you're twelve to twenty two, like that, you just 618 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: you Your team is so important, the music you listen 619 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: to is so important. There better my Cincinnati Reds. The 620 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: Big Red Machine is the best National League lineup ever. 621 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Zeppelin is the best rock and roll 622 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: band of all time. Like you have these opinions, it's 623 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: hard to change my mind when it comes to that. 624 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: You can say, hey, I got a National League team 625 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: that would rival the Reds. All right, I don't believe you. Hey, 626 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: I got a rock and roll band better than Led Zeppelin. Okay. 627 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan wasn't local for me. Michael Jordan was global 628 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: when you think about it, and you know, people watched Jordan, 629 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 1: they were there, They understand the moment. And I don't 630 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: know if anybody's gonna say, hey, I'm so passionate about 631 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: Lebron James. He's the greatest player of all time. Michael 632 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: Jordan is Neil Armstrong. He's the first guy to walk 633 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: on the moon. Now there's twelve people I think total, 634 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: have walked on the moon. But when you go to 635 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: a party and Neil Armstrong would be there, that dude 636 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: walked on the moon. The first guy. That's Michael Jordan. 637 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: He was the first real global star and he's almost 638 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: become mythological when you think about it now, Michael Jordan 639 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: has become Babe Ruth like Lebron can't compare, can't compete 640 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: with that. Lebron's one of the guys who has walked 641 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: on the moon, but he might be the twelfth guy, 642 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: the ninth guy, the eighth guy. Imagine if you're there 643 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: and you're having a conversation Neil Armstrong's there and you're 644 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: one of the other guys, buzz Aldron and you were second. 645 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: But that okay, that's nice. He was the first guy 646 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: to walk on the moon. You can't win that argument. 647 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: Mike is the first to do it, and he really 648 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: gave the blueprint to all these other athletes. And Muhammad 649 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: Ali wasn't with the team. He was global, but he 650 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: was an individual. But Mike became global because of you know, 651 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: the air. Jordan Ali was global because he would fight 652 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: around the world, and it was different. Mike was with 653 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: the team but also singular as a global spokesperson and 654 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: a billionaire. It's just different. I think when Lebron is 655 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: all said and done. We'll have an argument, at least 656 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: a good discussion here because people ask me all the time, Hey, 657 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: you were there when Jordan won all those titles. Michael Jordan, 658 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: if I'm going to win a game, is the guy 659 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: I want out there? We do this argument with a quarterback. 660 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: Who's the quarterback you want to win a game? Who's 661 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: the guy you wanted to plate with the game online? 662 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: Who's the pitcher you want on the well? Michael Jordan 663 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: is that Now? I can't argue with anybody else in 664 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: that situation. Game on the line, one game to win, 665 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is the guy that I want leading my team. 666 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: Do I think Lebron is a better basketball player than 667 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan? I do I do? If you look at 668 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: what he's done, the totality of his career, the style, 669 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: what he does. At his size, there's no one like him. 670 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: There's no one like him in the history of the game. 671 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: Magic was his size, but was not anywhere near the 672 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: athlete that Lebron is. Lebron can score, he can rebound, 673 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: he can pass. He's not the defender Mike was. But 674 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: if I wanted to win a game on taking Michael 675 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: Jordan just am I saw it, saw it with my 676 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: own eyes, and until somebody proved different. He was the 677 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: guy as much as I loved Bird and loved Magic, 678 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: and I kept thinking, you know, this Jordan guy thinks 679 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: he's as good as these guys. And then when Mike 680 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: put up sixty three on the Celtics in the Garden, 681 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: that's when Larry Bird said he realized there's a new 682 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: sheriff in town. There's like, I realized I wasn't the 683 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: best player in basketball. And that's from a guy who 684 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: won three MVPs. He knew he was not. That's what 685 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: Mike did. He came in and it was this tsunami 686 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you kind of came up 687 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: for air and you go, is it coming back again? 688 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: And it was. I would take him, you know, is 689 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: he the greatest player of all time? Yes, yes, Bill 690 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: Russell one more, but that wasn't just Bill singularly. Michael, 691 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, would go out and dominate games. He would 692 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: dominate opponents. He would make you cry. But if we're 693 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: even doing the all time draft there, if I'm starting 694 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: my team with anybody like I'd have a little bit 695 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: of a debate between Kareem, But the game has changed. Now, 696 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: what would Michael Jordan be like in today's game? Would 697 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: he be a three point shooting guy? Would he be 698 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: as effective? Would Steph Curry be more valuable because he's 699 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: a great three point shooter? I got, what would Bird 700 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: be like today? Would Bird be better? You know, because 701 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: he could shoot the three, He could rebound, he could pass, 702 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: he could do all those things. He wasn't the defender. 703 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: Jordan was like, what would Magic be Would he be 704 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: shooting more three? Like? Those are the questions you had 705 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: that you can't answer, but they're fund Bubba Watson will 706 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: join us and Boomer Science in final hour