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Speaker 1: was a time not so long ago, when the practices

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Speaker 1: we know today as witchcraft and magic were inseparable from

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Speaker 1: the disciplines of science and medicine in the pre Enlightenment era,

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Speaker 1: before Joseph Lister's germ theory and Henry Gray's anatomical textbook.

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Speaker 1: Treatment for diseases were based on the ancient Greek belief

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Speaker 1: these so called humours was thought to be off balance,

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Speaker 1: and managed in ways that might seem rudimentary even mystic

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Speaker 1: poppy for pain, herbal emetics to induce vomiting and purges.

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Speaker 1: In many cases, beliefs ran parallel to the Church, who

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Speaker 1: Alchemists were revered by monarchs and heads of state for

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Speaker 1: mirrors were used to commune with the spirits of the dead,

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Speaker 1: while witch bottles were concocted and occult symbols scratched into

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Speaker 1: as well as alchemy. Undoubtedly they they would have considered

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Speaker 1: themselves effectively practitioners of white magic, enacted in the name

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Speaker 1: least was dark magic practiced in the name of Satan. But,

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Speaker 1: as with all historical trends, when attitudes began to shift,

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Speaker 1: witchcraft in Demonology. A brutal persecution of so called witches

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Speaker 1: In the British Isles, self appointed black hatted witch finder

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Speaker 1: Many thousands of innocent people were caught up in the paranoia. Yet,

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Speaker 1: I'm Richard McLean Smith. The winter nineteen forty four into

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Speaker 1: forty five in England had been a long and brutal one.

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Speaker 1: for Edith, wartime had even opened up opportunities that she

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Speaker 1: At first, she hoped this would be enough to enable

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Speaker 1: if he could. For all his life, Charles had worked

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Speaker 1: Forty year old Alfred Potter was the manager of his

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Speaker 1: For the past nine months, he'd employed Charles to trim

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