Speaker 1: Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined on this Friday morning by Derek Brown
Speaker 1: and by Pat Fitzmoris Fellas. It is Week fifteen. We
Speaker 1: are into the fantasy playoffs. Unfortunately for some, the fantasy
Speaker 1: playoffs sorted last night with a real dud of a
Speaker 1: Thursday night game, Rams forty nine Ers twelve to six
Speaker 1: Rams win. Very very few players in this game performed
Speaker 1: fourth air fantasy managers. Pukaakua did have seven catches for
Speaker 1: ninety seven yards. Kyan Williams rushed twenty nine times on
Speaker 1: short rest for one hundred and eight yards. No touchdowns
Speaker 1: in this game, first time all season, and just what
Speaker 1: a way to kick things off here in Week fifteen.
Speaker 2: Fits credit to the guys who were able to have
Speaker 2: solid games in that brickfest of a contest. Puka Nakua
Speaker 2: maybe the reason he deserves to be a slam dunk
Speaker 2: first rounder next year that he was still able to
Speaker 2: have a pretty good game despite you know, Matt through
Speaker 2: Stafford putting up awful numbers. Kyron Williams just on volume alone,
Speaker 2: that's really about it. I mean, I guess George Kittle
Speaker 2: wasn't a complete disaster, but man like I started brock
Speaker 2: Purty in two games playoff games. Yikes, was going against
Speaker 2: Cooper Cupp in one. That feels pretty good. I will
Speaker 2: say this to people, though, and I have already seen
Speaker 2: such questions, like, you know, help, I had Cooper Cupp.
Speaker 2: Now look at my lineup. I need upside. Do not
Speaker 2: if you had one of your leadoff hitters strikeout, Like,
Speaker 2: don't change the rest of the batting order, man Like,
Speaker 2: don't use this as an excuse to make suboptimal lineup decisions.
Speaker 2: Like people have this upside thing and like, no, I'm
Speaker 2: not benching CD Lamb for Nick Westbrook a Keene because
Speaker 2: you need upside, Like, don't make silly decisions. Just put
Speaker 2: out that optimal lineup you were going to go with anyway,
Speaker 2: Like that's the best call. Like, look, you look at
Speaker 2: teams lineups every week. There are always a couple of
Speaker 2: brick spots. You know, a couple of a couple of
Speaker 2: guys have duds. You just happen to have your dud
Speaker 2: early on. Don't get crazy with the rest of your
Speaker 2: lineup and make suboptimal choices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I think emotionally and psychologically, like it's
Speaker 1: different when you're dud is, Like, oh man, I only
Speaker 1: got five points from a guy who's counting on for fifteen.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to literally seeing a goose egg. I
Speaker 1: think it's easier just for your brain to panic more
Speaker 1: when you see an actual zero there. But it shouts
Speaker 1: to Ericson who on our Tuesday trade show after week
Speaker 1: one was telling us to trade away and sell high
Speaker 1: on Cooper Cup. Obviously he didn't know that Cup is
Speaker 1: specifically going to get a zero week fifteen, but he
Speaker 1: was kind of taking a tongue in cheek victory laugh
Speaker 1: about that this morning with us in slack for ultimately
Speaker 1: being proven right.
Speaker 3: I suppose, yeah, de bro.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the Cup is kind of a big
Speaker 1: story getting to zero, but like you know, Jennings had
Speaker 1: nine targets and just two catches for thirty one yards.
Speaker 3: I mean, I both quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Were very, very poor for fantasy and you know, really
Speaker 1: in real life largely, there's just nothing good here really
Speaker 1: besides Pooka and maybe Kyroen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just a stinker of a game. Man.
Speaker 4: We get these and when we get them early in
Speaker 4: the week. I mean, I think Pat Patty had just
Speaker 4: absolute savvy advice. Man, I can't echo that enough. But
Speaker 4: I think the big takeaway from this and people are
Speaker 4: gonna because we just had a similar situation with Jayden
Speaker 4: Reid and Cooper Cup is pulling his best Jayden Reid
Speaker 4: impression giving us a goose egg. Don't overreact. Look if
Speaker 4: you if it makes the difference between starting one quarterback
Speaker 4: versus the other, then I understand it, Like if they're
Speaker 4: in the same area code, but you're not blowing up
Speaker 4: your entire lineup and being like I'm playing NBS some
Speaker 4: deep targets over this guy, like no, don't, don't, don't
Speaker 4: make ridiculous decisions and cloak it in the fact that
Speaker 4: I need to sit her and make up for the
Speaker 4: zero of Cooper Cup, Like because the other part about
Speaker 4: this is like you're gonna have other teams and maybe
Speaker 4: whoever you're facing that are dealing with possibly other players
Speaker 4: outside of Pooka Nakua that stunk in this game. So
Speaker 4: don't overreact too much. And the only the only last
Speaker 4: thing I'll say here is Pooka Aakua is like Fanos.
Speaker 4: He is inevitable. He's always gonna playoff. He's he's freaking awesome. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pookah's great and he's just so fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's not breaking any news, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Pooka Pooka. Like I said, eight targets, seven catches, ninety
Speaker 1: seven yards, Matthew Stafford only threw for one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty yards.
Speaker 3: Ninety seven of them went to Pooka.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's how much he was kind of carrying
Speaker 1: everything else there. By the way, how Fit or deebro rather,
Speaker 1: how many playoff teams do you actually have here as
Speaker 1: we are heading into week fifteen.
Speaker 4: I think I've got like six out of my like
Speaker 4: eight or ten leagues, and I'm playing in this year.
Speaker 4: I've got three or four first round buys. So not
Speaker 4: a whole lot of management for this week, although one
Speaker 4: are contently I think, are we playing each other in
Speaker 4: that playoff?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: I'm facing Bogman and you're facing John where we started
Speaker 1: this a week early for some reason in that league,
Speaker 1: so they were started on that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, don't give me, don't get me started on day.
Speaker 4: We had to remind me.
Speaker 2: I had a bye laden first round game, and I
Speaker 2: think Bogman like doubled my score.
Speaker 1: See, I would have had a buye I had like
Speaker 1: Lamar and stuff like that, but I managed to get
Speaker 1: a buy in that league. So I survived that week fourteen.
Speaker 1: But I don't know why may Or did it, Like
Speaker 1: that's a Mayror complaint.
Speaker 4: We have fourteen teamer and I had to start Patrick
Speaker 4: Taylor last night. So you know, talking about zeros in
Speaker 4: your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm going up against Bogman. He had three
Speaker 1: players last night. He had Stafford, he had Grendo, and
Speaker 1: he had one other somebody who didn't do very I
Speaker 1: think Kittle maybe.
Speaker 4: Now I'm rooting for Boglin.
Speaker 3: All right, let's let's jump in here. This is our
Speaker 3: Friday show.
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Speaker 1: we'll dive in here. Really fun slate, by the way,
Speaker 1: lots of good games. Honestly, I'm really excited for this
Speaker 1: Sunday action. We're gonna kick off with maybe a less
Speaker 1: exciting game, but one that I still think is relevant
Speaker 1: fantasy purposes, and that's Jets at Jaguars. And I want
Speaker 1: to ask debro is Isaiah Davis the backup running back
Speaker 1: that we want to be rostering starting for the Jets
Speaker 1: when Breeze Hall is out? Or do we still like
Speaker 1: Braylan Allen as that fill in option their.
Speaker 3: Actual volume and workload last week.
Speaker 1: I don't have the snap percentages in front of me,
Speaker 1: but the actual touches they got last week and their
Speaker 1: production was very similar, Davis of course getting the touchdown
Speaker 1: and Braylan Allen not getting one. But if breestall is out,
Speaker 1: are we more interested in Davis than Allen? Or is
Speaker 1: it still kind of thinking Allen first?
Speaker 4: It's it's Davis over Allen for me, and yeah, like
Speaker 4: if you look at the box scores and they're snap
Speaker 4: counts and stuff, they're very, very similar. They've basically split
Speaker 4: the workload almost immediately down the middle. I think the
Speaker 4: big difference for me though, that pushes it in. We're
Speaker 4: going off with one game sample, so again, like this
Speaker 4: is kind of parsing through things. But Davis got seventy
Speaker 4: five percent of the red zone snaps and so that
Speaker 4: I think turns the tide for him a little bit.
Speaker 4: So while I've seen consensus has Braylan Allen ranked above
Speaker 4: Isaiah Davis, that's kind of how I'm approaching it. I
Speaker 4: have Isaiah Davis. Like, if you want to inch one
Speaker 4: of these, I think they're both RB threes, But if
Speaker 4: you're inching one guy a little bit closer to RB
Speaker 4: two status, considering the matchup, I think it's Isaiah Davis.
Speaker 4: And again, honestly too, on a per touch basis, he's
Speaker 4: been better than Breiln Allen this year. He's got a
Speaker 4: six point seven percent explosive run rate. He's forced mistackles
Speaker 4: on twenty percent of his opportunities. So whether it's talent,
Speaker 4: whether it's opportunity situation and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I lean Davis here, and by the way, fits this
Speaker 1: is very likely to be relevant this week. Our are
Speaker 1: they playing tool In fantasypros dot Com, he gives Bresaul
Speaker 1: just a twelve percent chance to play. We don't have
Speaker 1: Friday practice supports yet, so it's possible that changes with
Speaker 1: some really optimistic news, but it is not looking.
Speaker 3: Good for Bresaul.
Speaker 1: So folks who are relying on one of these backups,
Speaker 1: if you have both, or even if you have one
Speaker 1: or the other, are going to have to make this decision.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and really no incentive for the Jets to push
Speaker 2: it with Bresall, considering that they're pretty much done with
Speaker 2: their season and just playing for draft position at this point.
Speaker 2: I disagree with you, Bro. I guess I tend to
Speaker 2: think it's Brice Allen and I'm trying to set my
Speaker 2: Wisconsin bias aside here, but like he's been the primary
Speaker 2: back up to Brisaul all year, and yes, I know
Speaker 2: they split touches last week, but I think Braylen's probably
Speaker 2: going to be the main guy on early downs, and like,
Speaker 2: I think Davis could be more valuable if the game
Speaker 2: script goes ways and the Jets are behind by multiple scores.
Speaker 2: But is that going to happen against the mac Jones
Speaker 2: led Jaguars.
Speaker 5: I tend to think not.
Speaker 2: And I don't know as far as that performance stuff
Speaker 2: Debro I did, Like, I just don't know if the
Speaker 2: sample size with Davis is significant enough to like really
Speaker 2: put much into his rate numbers, Like he just hasn't
Speaker 2: had a lot of work, so you know, like I
Speaker 2: think they're probably pretty close in value.
Speaker 5: And I've maybe got.
Speaker 2: Braylen Allen rank like two spots higher than Davis, but like,
Speaker 2: forced to make a choice, I would still take Braylen Allen,
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 1: On the other side of this one, they announced this
Speaker 1: morning that Evan Ingram is done for the year with
Speaker 1: a torn labraam not really outside of the fact that
Speaker 1: you won't have Ingram himself. Not really sure how much
Speaker 1: that impacts fantasy, just with this offense being kind of
Speaker 1: as useless as it is.
Speaker 2: But fifteen targets coming for Brian Thomas Junior. Maybe more
Speaker 2: people looking for a streamer tight end Jordan Akins, go
Speaker 2: get Jordan Akins to the Browns, you know, with no
Speaker 2: David Nijoku, Like I think Aikins, who is probably about
Speaker 2: you know, one percent rostered in Yahoo leagues, and ye heck,
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston is throwing it forty three times a game,
Speaker 2: So seems like Aikins could be a pretty good spot
Speaker 2: start if you're an Ingram manager who needs someone, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Him or Isaiah likely might be out there. Also the
Speaker 4: pickup of the week du jour, which I like him,
Speaker 4: Stone Smart, some other names out there.
Speaker 3: I think it's a good point on Brion Thomas too.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't really include him because he's already
Speaker 1: kind of in very startable territory, but you're right, I mean,
Speaker 1: who are they possibly gonna throw to in that offense
Speaker 1: besides him? So lots of targets coming his way. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Bengals at Titans, And I know Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: has been, like, outside of Saquan the best player in
Speaker 1: fantasy this season.
Speaker 3: He's been amazing. Are we tempering expectations at all?
Speaker 1: For both him and or t Higgins's coming off of
Speaker 1: a down game against the Titans defense that has not
Speaker 1: really allowed many fantasy points to opposing right wide receivers
Speaker 1: this year. I think they're in the top three and
Speaker 1: fewest allowed the last time I had looked fits are you?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're starting Jamar Chase and T Higgins
Speaker 1: is still ranked, you know, relatively highly. I think he's
Speaker 1: wide receiver nine in ECR. But are we lowering expectations
Speaker 1: a bit with the matchup?
Speaker 2: Not at all, And the Titans have actually allowed the
Speaker 2: fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. So but here's why
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about that at all. For whatever reason,
Speaker 2: even though the Titans have a good run defense, their
Speaker 2: defense has been a run funnel. Opponents have run the
Speaker 2: ball against the Titans on forty seven point six of
Speaker 2: their forty seven point six percent of their offensive snaps,
Speaker 2: seventh highest rate in the league. That's just not how
Speaker 2: the Bengals roll. They are not going to give it
Speaker 2: to Chase Brown twenty five times. It's just not how
Speaker 2: they operate like. This has been an insanely pass heavy
Speaker 2: offense for the Bengals, maybe two pass heavy, some critics
Speaker 2: would contend. Over the bengals last six games, Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: has averaged forty four pass attempts and twenty nine point
Speaker 2: three completions. Here, Jamar Chase's target totals over Cincinnati's last
Speaker 2: six games eleven, eleven, seventeen, thirteen, nine, eighteen. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: I'm not worried in the creast about Jamar Chase. And
Speaker 2: I bet the over on his yardage prop which was
Speaker 2: artificially low because of the matchup. It was like eighty
Speaker 2: some yards. Like, I think he's gonna smash it and
Speaker 2: have another one hundred yard game.
Speaker 3: Is he wide receiver one for you this week?
Speaker 5: He has with the matchup? Yeah, slam dunk, Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: And to be clear, I'm not at all suggesting anybody
Speaker 1: sitting Chase here right, just kind of about managing expectations. Debro,
Speaker 1: I saw you nodding along, so are you kind of
Speaker 1: in total agreement? Chase number one, don't even worry about it.
Speaker 4: Chase number one and T Higgins is my wide receiver six.
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about either one of them, and I'm
Speaker 4: not I'm not worried about the Tennessee Titans either, man.
Speaker 4: They stink. Their past defense stinks ever since lost lagerious need.
Speaker 4: They're not good. And I think a lot of this
Speaker 4: comes down to the reason that they have so the
Speaker 4: numbers can lie in the sense of that they haven't
Speaker 4: been thrown against a ton, and I think a lot
Speaker 4: of that is because teams are just beating their every
Speaker 4: loving crap out of them. Like they've allowed the sixth
Speaker 4: most points on the season they have faced the let
Speaker 4: me see here the eighth, if my quick napkinmath is right,
Speaker 4: the eighth fewest targets to wide receivers. But if you
Speaker 4: look at on a per target basis, since week nine,
Speaker 4: they're allowing the eleventh most PPR points per target to
Speaker 4: wide receivers. So Tea has been awesome. I just want
Speaker 4: to throw that out there. If he wasn't coming off
Speaker 4: a down game, I don't think we'd even be, like,
Speaker 4: you know, discussing this because he has, legit been amazing.
Speaker 4: Like over the last few weeks, he's been a top
Speaker 4: five wide receiver in Fantasy points per game. So start
Speaker 4: both of them with the utmost confidence because the other
Speaker 4: part about this is not only Cincinnati throwing the ball
Speaker 4: a Ton like fits he laid out, it's just going
Speaker 4: to these two guys like andre Yoshabas if you haven't
Speaker 4: seen him in the primer in a lot of different
Speaker 4: weeks since, because he's not getting targets, so he doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Mike Giseki ever since T. Higgins has been back in
Speaker 4: the lineup has a six percent target chair. It is
Speaker 4: legit just Chase and Tea every week.
Speaker 1: So improptu starter sit and I recognize that one of
Speaker 1: these guys hasn't practiced this week and is you know,
Speaker 1: pretty good hits of not playing. But they're ranked back
Speaker 1: to back in our staff rankings, so we're still ranking
Speaker 1: as if he's playing Mike Evans or T. Higgins, assuming
Speaker 1: Mike Evans plays, which again I'm we're thinking he's not,
Speaker 1: but he's still ranked as if he is right now.
Speaker 1: So if he plays, would you rather start Evans or
Speaker 1: Higgins this week? T, I've got Tea at wide receiver
Speaker 1: six and I got Evans at nine.
Speaker 2: Fit's I've got Evans ranked higher because I think the
Speaker 2: target floor is a little safer. I've got Evans ninth
Speaker 2: and T. Higgins twelfth. But I mean, to de Bro's point, like,
Speaker 2: I think in games that Chase and Higgins have played
Speaker 2: together this year, Higgins is actually out targeted Chase, which
Speaker 2: is kind of crazy.
Speaker 5: Pretty sure about that.
Speaker 2: Maybe Chase overtook him with the eighteen target game last week,
Speaker 2: but yeah, so like really good outlooks for both. But
Speaker 2: I just think Evans is pretty much a lock for
Speaker 2: eight targets and Higgins has you know, his downside is
Speaker 2: what we saw in week fourteen.
Speaker 4: I mean, Pat, you laid out the target totals for Chase.
Speaker 4: This is Tea over the last all right before the
Speaker 4: Dallas game. This is his last six games, ten targets, fourteen, seven, eight,
Speaker 4: thirteen and ten.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's been the case in past years two,
Speaker 1: not like every single time, but that there have been
Speaker 1: chunks of time too where when they're on the field together,
Speaker 1: Tea is getting more targeted than Chamar. So that's been
Speaker 1: something that Burrows done in the past. Right, Let's go
Speaker 1: to the next game, Ravens at Giants. Biggest spread of
Speaker 1: the season. I think it's sixteen and a half last
Speaker 1: time I looked, which is quite frankly, that's too many points.
Speaker 1: But I want to ask what Malik neighbors. Obviously Tommy
Speaker 1: DeVito starting in New York, they announced that earlier this week.
Speaker 1: Neighbors stylistically, you know, has been comped, and you made
Speaker 1: this comp to deebro two.
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase absolutely torches this Ravens secondary, and it's not
Speaker 1: even Joe Burrow making the perfect pass. I mean sometimes
Speaker 1: it is, obviously they're they're very good tandem, but a
Speaker 1: lot of times it's he just gets the ball and
Speaker 1: the Ravens can't tackle him. So from a fantasy manager
Speaker 1: managers perspective, it's really easy to say, you know, the
Speaker 1: Ravens secondary playing a little bit better since they move
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton back deep and you know, bad quarterback position.
Speaker 3: I kind of look at this and say, Neighbors is
Speaker 3: the type of.
Speaker 1: Guy that just gives this team fits and I could
Speaker 1: see him, you know, breaking off a couple of ones,
Speaker 1: assuming you know he's healthy and playing. So are you
Speaker 1: interested in starting Milik Neighbors in this matchup this week?
Speaker 4: I'm not. And with no teams on a buy, we're
Speaker 4: looking at I think the proper way to look at
Speaker 4: Neighbors this week is as a low end wide receiver three.
Speaker 4: Over the last two games, he's finished his wide receiver
Speaker 4: twenty five, wide receiver twenty six. But a lot of
Speaker 4: that is we have teams on a buy, other players
Speaker 4: are out and stuff. If you'd had all these other
Speaker 4: teams playing, they would have pushed him down the ranks.
Speaker 4: So this week I've got neighbors at wide receiver thirty six,
Speaker 4: like barely scraping in as a wide receiver three. I
Speaker 4: just don't have any faith in freaking Tommy DeVito. Like
Speaker 4: I understand all the reasons to believe in elite neighbors
Speaker 4: and with the matchup and all of that, but unless
Speaker 4: he's gonna throw the freaking ball to himself, it probably
Speaker 4: doesn't even matter because of the target quality he's gonna get.
Speaker 4: Like So for me, it's just I believe in other
Speaker 4: wide receivers. I believe in other matchups and stuff. This
Speaker 4: is not a knock on his talent. It really just
Speaker 4: comes down to the situation. Like I have more faith
Speaker 4: in playing Jalen Wattle this week, I will probably roll
Speaker 4: out Brian Thomas Junior with similar bad quarterback play, but
Speaker 4: also in a situation where there's nobody else to catch
Speaker 4: the freaking ball. It's just it's rough, Like I'll play
Speaker 4: Adam Thielen over elik neighbors. That might sound insane, but
Speaker 4: look at his production of the last two weeks.
Speaker 3: The in ECR he is much higher than you have.
Speaker 3: You are well below consensus. He's actually Wide receiver twenty
Speaker 3: one in ECR Right now.
Speaker 4: That's a hat. Yes, that doesn't even line up with
Speaker 4: his production of the last two games.
Speaker 1: He's he's just behind the four names ahead of him JSN,
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, Lad mccackie, Jerry Judy, the four names behind
Speaker 1: him Calvin Ridley's A Flowers, DK Metcalf, DJ Moore.
Speaker 3: That's kind of the range that Neighbors is sitting in.
Speaker 4: Fits How is A Flowers ranked behind him? Like all
Speaker 4: things considered, I.
Speaker 1: Don't I can say from the Ravens perspective, I think
Speaker 1: they're just gonna run Derrick Henry like a bunch in
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 3: I was about to curse. They're gonna run Dereck Henry.
Speaker 1: A lot, and I don't know how many targets there.
Speaker 3: Will be to go around for the receivers.
Speaker 1: It's like kind of get it, but at the same time, like, yes,
Speaker 1: Flowers is paired with Lamar Jackson Milik, Neighbors is a
Speaker 1: pair of Tommy DeVito. At a certain point, that might
Speaker 1: all be all you really need to know. Fitz, what
Speaker 1: do you think about that ranking for Neighbors Wide Receiver
Speaker 1: twenty one in ECR.
Speaker 2: So I am between ECR and Deebro. I've got him
Speaker 2: at wide receiver twenty six, but I can throw out
Speaker 2: some numbers that support Deebro's ranking of him. So, since
Speaker 2: coming back from his early season concussion in Week seven,
Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors is averaging sixty one point nine receiving yards
Speaker 2: a game, nine point six yards per catch, five point
Speaker 2: nine yards per target. Has not scored a touchdown in
Speaker 2: any of those seven games. He is tied for wide
Speaker 2: receiver thirty eight in points per game since Week seven.
Speaker 2: And I looked at the Tommy DeVito player prop for
Speaker 2: passing yardage last night. I think it's set one point
Speaker 2: eighty point five. I believe was the number. So even
Speaker 2: if Malik Nighbors gets, you know, forty percent of that,
Speaker 2: he's not sniffing one hundred yard game. The quarterback situation
Speaker 2: is awful. The Giants are down a couple of starting alignemen, Like,
Speaker 2: this is just a bad situation. And I know people
Speaker 2: are going to look at the Ravens defense and see
Speaker 2: that they've allowed whatever it is, the most or second
Speaker 2: most receiving yards to wide receiver, Like, don't get snuokered.
Speaker 5: By that man.
Speaker 2: This is not a good matchup, and like you know,
Speaker 2: in some spots, I'm forced to play neighbors in one
Speaker 2: playoff game this week, but I'm not excited about it.
Speaker 4: Since week seven, he has one red zone target. Since
Speaker 4: Week seven, he has not surpassed seventy nine receiving yards
Speaker 4: in any game. Do we really think like, first of all,
Speaker 4: if he doesn't score a touchdown this week, he's not
Speaker 4: gonna be a wide receiver. Two. Let's get that out
Speaker 4: of the way. So the chances of him scoring a
Speaker 4: touchdown with one one red zone target since week seven
Speaker 4: are almost nonexistent.
Speaker 1: The Ravens pass defense, truly, in the last month two
Speaker 1: has been better than it was to start the year.
Speaker 1: I mean since that they got torched by the Bengals
Speaker 1: in Week ten, that one of these weeks was a bye,
Speaker 1: but then the other three games in the last month, Steelers, Chargers, Eagles.
Speaker 1: They looks better against all those teams than they did
Speaker 1: in the earlier part of the year. And maybe those
Speaker 1: aren't the three best offenses in football, but Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: justin Herbert Jalen hurts they're better than Tommy DeVito. They
Speaker 1: have taken somewhat of a step forward and yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the quarterback situation is
Speaker 1: kind of hard to look past with with me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that ranking just I think is relying way too
Speaker 4: much on name value and matchup and not looking enough
Speaker 4: at like what he's done and the fact that Tommy
Speaker 4: freakin Devido is his quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, I know you would never do it because
Speaker 2: you're a Ravens fan. But in the two pools I'm
Speaker 2: in where you have to pick every game against the spread,
Speaker 2: I am laying the points and taking the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're going to absolutely just crush them.
Speaker 3: Six is it still sixteen and a half? That was
Speaker 3: the last night that That is an insane number.
Speaker 4: It's an insane number, and the fact is they're they're
Speaker 4: gonna cover it.
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those things where it's like it's
Speaker 1: like like a pretty much no team should really ever
Speaker 1: be favored by that much. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's like Ravens coming off a by coming off a
Speaker 1: loss then a bye, so you know they're going to
Speaker 1: be like kind of really dialed in and focused, and
Speaker 1: the Giants like they want to lose, right, like they've
Speaker 1: they have absolutely unequivocally given up on the season, and
Speaker 1: Lamar and Derek Henry are coming to down.
Speaker 3: So like he what worm get it.
Speaker 4: I'll frame it this way if you want Lamar to
Speaker 4: really like even possibly get back into the MVP conversation,
Speaker 4: like this is a game where you just put your
Speaker 4: foot down to the metal and the Ravens go out
Speaker 4: and just blasts. So funny as a Josh Allen game.
Speaker 1: This is this is kind of a detour, but it's
Speaker 1: so funny about the MVP conversation.
Speaker 3: It's the opposite of last year.
Speaker 1: Last year, Josh Allen had better numbers than Lamar, but
Speaker 1: Lamar was on the team that have more wins and
Speaker 1: so he almost was unanimous. This year, Lamar's numbers are
Speaker 1: unequivocally better than Josh. Josh Allen's are amazing. He's He's
Speaker 1: a totally deserving MVP can Lamar has better numbers, but
Speaker 1: he has too fewer wins, even though one of those
Speaker 1: wins that he has came against the Bills doesn't matter
Speaker 1: because it's early in the year and he is too fewer,
Speaker 1: and so now, like I actually the gap is crazy,
Speaker 1: Like I think the last night looked Allen was minus
Speaker 1: four hundred and Lamar is plus one thousand. I think Lamar, Saquan,
Speaker 1: and Allen could any of those three could still win it.
Speaker 1: Josh Al should be the favorite right now, but it
Speaker 1: is just it's just so funny to me how it's
Speaker 1: the mirror of last year.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a two horst race. For me, it's
Speaker 4: Alan and Lamar. And if I'm Lamar and I want
Speaker 4: to get back into the race, I'm going out and
Speaker 4: I'm rushing for two and I'm throwing for.
Speaker 1: Three, I firmly am against. Like I would never vote
Speaker 1: for Saquon for MVP. I'm just so I'm so quarterback
Speaker 1: filled in that respect. I get why he's in the
Speaker 1: conversation though, because he's been awesome and the Eagles are
Speaker 1: winning a lot, But yeah, if it were up to me,
Speaker 1: it would be josh Allen won Lamar two as of
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 4: If we want to be real about it, I think
Speaker 4: the case that everybody is making for Saquon, I really
Speaker 4: don't understand why, in that same sentence, in that same breath,
Speaker 4: why we don't have the same case being made for
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry. Some people have doing similar things, like really
Speaker 4: like what's what's the big freaking difference? Yeah, outside a
Speaker 4: quarterback play?
Speaker 1: Yeah fits? What do you think quickly, just while we're
Speaker 1: talking about the MVP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is interesting how it's kind of the same way,
Speaker 2: and like those wins are going to get counted for
Speaker 2: a lot. So I tend to think Alan has the
Speaker 2: inside track. I don't think either of the running backs
Speaker 2: have a case.
Speaker 4: I just don't like no running backs never do.
Speaker 1: I will say, you know, like the Bills have to
Speaker 1: play the Lions, that could be a loss. They're probably
Speaker 1: going to win the rest of their games. But if
Speaker 1: they finish one win ahead of Lamar and Lamar is
Speaker 1: the head the head, I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think also I think narratively too, people are just ready
Speaker 1: to give Allen one, which I'm fine with, Like Lamar
Speaker 1: has to he just won last year.
Speaker 3: I think people want to give it to Alan.
Speaker 2: If Alan plays a good game and they beat the
Speaker 2: Lions like that probably puts him.
Speaker 3: It feels borderline locked up.
Speaker 4: If he needs to win and Lamar goes out and
Speaker 4: he absolutely just owns the Giants.
Speaker 1: And again I'm not here making the case for Lamar.
Speaker 1: I do think the gap is too wide right now.
Speaker 3: Though this is kind of you, I mean, you're not wrong.
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Speaker 1: All right, guys as good at Dolphins at Texans fits.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Texans had a chance to get
Speaker 1: right over the bye week and we maybe see a
Speaker 1: bounce back from CJ. Stroud Or will Nico Collins and
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon continue to be the only playable Fantasy options
Speaker 1: in this offense?
Speaker 5: Well, I've got CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud ranked QB twenty one this week, so not a
Speaker 2: lot of optimism reflected in that ranking. I just don't
Speaker 2: think a bye week was going to be enough for
Speaker 2: the Texans to fortify that paper mache offensive line they have.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Texans have allowed pressures on a league
Speaker 2: high twenty seven point two percent of CJ. Stroud's dropbacks
Speaker 2: this year. They've also allowed a league high fifty nine hurries.
Speaker 2: No other offensive line has allowed more than forty eight hurries,
Speaker 2: so eleven hurries more than the next worst offensive line.
Speaker 2: It's just a bad situation for CJ. Stroud, which is
Speaker 2: why I been below consensus on him, like for months now.
Speaker 1: Do you think you're gonna be ranking him, maybe not aggressively,
Speaker 1: but close to the range we had him coming into
Speaker 1: this year when we were talking about our twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five rankings or has this year been enough of a
Speaker 1: disappointment that you were going to keep him outside of
Speaker 1: the top ten or whatever number you want to put
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: No, I mean he's going to be maybe a little lower,
Speaker 2: but I think he'll probably be on the border of
Speaker 2: like QB one and QB two range in my off
Speaker 2: season rankings. But that's going to vary depending on what
Speaker 2: sort of moves the Texans make as far as signing
Speaker 2: or drafting offensive linemen, because that's they need help. They
Speaker 2: need a couple of couple of new bodies at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Deeber, what do you think about for this week
Speaker 1: in particular, but also I guess the same question about
Speaker 1: kind of the future for Stroud.
Speaker 4: There's an avenue for Stroud to have a good game here.
Speaker 4: I've got him at QB eighteen, so I'm basically dancing
Speaker 4: in the same area code as Fitzy here. So I
Speaker 4: don't think that he's gonna have a monster game or
Speaker 4: anything like that, but like, there's there's an avenue for
Speaker 4: him to have a good game. Like Miami's past defense
Speaker 4: has faltered in recent weeks, like since Week nine, they're
Speaker 4: allowing the seventh highest success rate per dropback. The worry
Speaker 4: that I have with CJ. Stroud is it's a lot
Speaker 4: of it has been the offensive line. I have to
Speaker 4: be and keep it a buck here. Also that Stroud
Speaker 4: is not playing good Like if you look at it,
Speaker 4: he's holding the ball too long. There's open throws like
Speaker 4: on his film where there's downfield throws to Tank Dell
Speaker 4: where a lot of those passes you're seeing last year
Speaker 4: he's completing those. So I think Stroud is just not
Speaker 4: playing good football right now. So well, I think he
Speaker 4: can take advantage of the matchup to an extent. I
Speaker 4: don't We're gonna see a top twelve game out of
Speaker 4: him and a true like bounce back, like I want
Speaker 4: to see it for CJ's Stroud. I just don't know
Speaker 4: if we're gonna see it this year. Like he's he's
Speaker 4: taken a lot of hits and he's been playing quarterback
Speaker 4: pretty bad lately. Like as far as twenty twenty five,
Speaker 4: he's probably gonna end up somewhere in like that QB
Speaker 4: fifteen to seventeen range for me, because really like for
Speaker 4: the guys to for these pocket passers to be in
Speaker 4: that top twelve, top eight to top thirteen kind of range.
Speaker 4: It's not only do you need to throw it for
Speaker 4: a lot of yards, but you got to get a
Speaker 4: lot of touchdowns and you're gonna need play volume, like
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is crushing right now because the Bengals are
Speaker 4: leading everybody in pace and passing rate and all these
Speaker 4: parts of things. Like Houston I was hopeful was going
Speaker 4: to do that this year. We haven't seen that at all,
Speaker 4: Like they've turtled and in a lot of different games,
Speaker 4: like you've seen some blips where the pass rate over
Speaker 4: expectation has jumped up. But Stroud's not playing good, so
Speaker 4: it's not like they've done anything out of it, or
Speaker 4: the offensive line has got him crushed, And so for
Speaker 4: next year, it's hard for me to walk into it
Speaker 4: like I did this previous year, where even if they
Speaker 4: do add some weaponry or blocking on the front end,
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're gonna get the passing rate
Speaker 4: that's gonna help elevate Stroud a QB one territory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fair point.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to seeing them add another pass
Speaker 1: catcher to just you know, Digs another Oh, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to obviously out of the picture.
Speaker 3: Dell has been a disappointment.
Speaker 1: Like you have Nico still obviously, but like in addition
Speaker 1: to the offensive line, I do feel like you need
Speaker 1: another guy there. Let's go to Colts Broncos. This is
Speaker 1: an interesting one, Deebro. The Colts have a terrible run defense,
Speaker 1: but the Broncos backfield has been maybe the biggest headache
Speaker 1: to predict all season long and fantasy this year. Are
Speaker 1: we taking a chance on any Denver running back this
Speaker 1: week given how tacy the matchup is, or are you
Speaker 1: just staying away and say it's a fantasy playoffs? I
Speaker 1: can't risk trusting Sean Payton.
Speaker 4: I can't risk Sean Payton. The only way that I
Speaker 4: think you're taking a shot on this backfield is if
Speaker 4: you were in dire straits in a deep league, like
Speaker 4: I'm talking like a fourteen teamer, or a situation where
Speaker 4: it's like you're dealing with I mean even with every
Speaker 4: there's no buyas this week, so like when injuries are
Speaker 4: we talking about unless like you're dealing with Okay, I
Speaker 4: have Kenneth Walker, I Breese Hall, I'm out of running backs.
Speaker 4: Then in that instance, sure, I understand playing Julia McLoughlin.
Speaker 4: I cannot play Javonte Williams. I will not go down
Speaker 4: the Audric estimate. Well, McLoughlin has only had twenty nine
Speaker 4: percent to thirty six percent of the snaps of the
Speaker 4: last two games, but he's averaging eleven touches sixty four
Speaker 4: rushing yards. He's been good on a per touch basis.
Speaker 4: So like, I mean, this is the best case I
Speaker 4: can make for it. It would be Julia McLoughlin as
Speaker 4: a low low, low desperation, low inflex But outside of that,
Speaker 4: no way I'm staying away from the backfield.
Speaker 1: Fits If Sean Payton and he was given truth serum,
Speaker 1: and he came out and said, pick any player. Davante
Speaker 1: esme McLoughlin, whatever player he gets, we give him truth.
Speaker 4: Here him.
Speaker 1: He says, that player is getting seventeen touches in this game.
Speaker 1: Where would she have bixt Where? Where would you ra
Speaker 1: if we knew which running back it was going to be?
Speaker 1: On the rouletteheel, which one not? Which one? Would you
Speaker 1: want to start that person?
Speaker 2: If I knew there were seventeen touches, Yes, yes I
Speaker 2: would if we had an inkling, for sure. And my
Speaker 2: best guess would also be Julia McLoughlin, just because he
Speaker 2: was sort of leading the backfield last time we saw
Speaker 2: them with fourteen carries for eighty four yards against the
Speaker 2: Browns in Week thirteen, and he looked good, Like he
Speaker 2: is the quickest guy in this backfield without question. Like
Speaker 2: he's just got a lot more, a lot more sizzle
Speaker 2: to his running style than either Javonte Williams or Audric Estima.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: And as you mentioned, the Colts have given up the
Speaker 2: second most rushing yards to running backs this year. But like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really hard to get McLoughlin in your lineup. Like
Speaker 2: maybe I think I can't remember if I am starting
Speaker 2: him or if he was the last man out in
Speaker 2: a playoff game I'm in. But it's a three flax
Speaker 2: league and he was either going to be the third
Speaker 2: flax or the first guy of the bench.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to ask on the other side of this
Speaker 1: matchup two about Anthony Richardson. Since regaining the starting job
Speaker 1: in Indy, he has finished as a top nine fantasy
Speaker 1: quarterback in.
Speaker 3: Two of the three weeks.
Speaker 1: They're bie weeks mixed into that, so there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of noise in that stat but still top nine
Speaker 1: two out of three weeks is much closer to what
Speaker 1: we were expecting to get when he was being drafted
Speaker 1: very highly at the position in August. Deebro, is he
Speaker 1: back to being a high level starting option for fantasy managers?
Speaker 4: I've got him at QB thirteen right now. Where is
Speaker 4: eazyr at? Because I think I'm above consensus and I
Speaker 4: want to be above consuders.
Speaker 1: They definitely above where he was when I looked earlier
Speaker 1: in the week. Yeah, he's QB eighteen. Yes, I want
Speaker 1: to be already ahead of him some other remaining guys.
Speaker 4: And this all comes down to not only has Anthony
Speaker 4: Richardson played good? And I know all the box score
Speaker 4: chasers are gonna tell me he's played bad. We have
Speaker 4: to be honest with ourselves here. Like SyncE, Anthony Richardson
Speaker 4: has come back and been in the huddle. He has
Speaker 4: ranked eleventh and CPOE seventh and hero throw rate and
Speaker 4: second and Fantasy points per dropback. The problem is, yes, okay,
Speaker 4: like there have been Aaron passes. Can we just get
Speaker 4: the freaking colds wide receivers to catch the dang ball? Like?
Speaker 4: Can that happen? Because since he's been back, he has
Speaker 4: had to deal with the highest drop rate amongst quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: With at least fifty dropbacks he has had to deal with,
Speaker 4: he has lost the most passing yards two drops, one
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty eight yards since he has returned to
Speaker 4: the huddle. So looking at all of that, I think
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson, yes, he's been good on a PERB dropback basis.
Speaker 4: He's been better as a passer than people realize. And
Speaker 4: Denver has taken a step back. Like outside of Patrick Sartan,
Speaker 4: we don't need to really be worried about this pass defense, right.
Speaker 4: Moss probably doesn't even play this week as well. And
Speaker 4: this is a team if you want to talk about matchups,
Speaker 4: quietly that fit to how this passing attack wants to
Speaker 4: roll and not only what Anthony Richardson is going to
Speaker 4: do a ton and that's throw deep. Denver over the
Speaker 4: last few weeks has been one of the worst teams
Speaker 4: against defending the deep ball. Since Week nine, they're allowing
Speaker 4: the six most deep passing yards and the highest passer
Speaker 4: rating too deep passing. So this is quietly a spot where, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think Anthony Richardson has a really good game. I
Speaker 4: actually bet the Colts money line. I think it was
Speaker 4: like plus one ninety eight. I think they win this game,
Speaker 4: and I think Anthony Richardson has a good game. Also,
Speaker 4: if you're struggling, I'm going to bring along in this
Speaker 4: conversation because I think the deep passing does hit this week.
Speaker 4: Alec Pierce Sneaky Flecks play Fitz.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 1: We talked a little yesterday about how I in the
Speaker 1: scott fish Ball playoffs, had to decide for my second
Speaker 1: quarterback spot between Richardson and Stafford.
Speaker 3: Thank goodness, I benched Stafford.
Speaker 4: Please you play it.
Speaker 1: Okay, they're back to back in ECR, so it was
Speaker 1: a real consideration. But the Scott Fish bull scoring being
Speaker 1: so friendly to rushing, you know, I had Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: Fitz helped confirm that that was the correct decision.
Speaker 4: You leaned in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Boy did last night Extra confirm it. But yeah, fits
Speaker 1: is Richardson back to being a high level option?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you mentioned that he was top nine
Speaker 2: and two of the last three weeks, so we should
Speaker 2: talk about the third week. He had thirteen Fantasy points
Speaker 2: and was quarterback twenty one that week, And that's why
Speaker 2: I think he's more of a mid level option. Some weeks,
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is just going to lay an egg as
Speaker 2: a passer and if he doesn't give you much as
Speaker 2: a rusher those weeks, like you are in trouble, so
Speaker 2: that there is a scary floor there for Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 5: But I'm right behind Deebro.
Speaker 2: I've got him rud QB fourteen, so I'm definitely higher
Speaker 2: on ECR. And yeah, like I'm you know, I like
Speaker 2: betting on running quarterbacks, especially ones who you know do
Speaker 2: have some upside as a passer, as Deebro illustrated, and
Speaker 2: like Anthony Richardson is a guy I want to be
Speaker 2: above consensus on most weeks.
Speaker 4: Fitsy take a side in this game? For me, this
Speaker 4: is a huge game, man, And so people are so
Speaker 4: back and forth, who do you think wins Broncos or Colts.
Speaker 2: I'm going with Denver at home, Like I still really
Speaker 2: solid defense and just you know, Nicks has been pretty steatic.
Speaker 5: Like Knicks has been better as a passer.
Speaker 2: I think lately he stopped running, which is strange, but
Speaker 2: like he's improved as a passer as the season has
Speaker 2: gone on.
Speaker 1: Spread on DraftKings, by the way, is four and a
Speaker 1: half with Denver's laying at home.
Speaker 3: But by the way on DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Uh, Steelers Eagles? Will we see a squeaky wheel gets
Speaker 1: the grease game for AJ Brown?
Speaker 3: This week fits?
Speaker 2: Probably not just because Jalen Hurts has averaged twenty one
Speaker 2: point four pass attempts over his last nine games. Like this,
Speaker 2: the Eagles are playing leather helmet football these days, like
Speaker 2: this is football from a bygone era, and for AJ
Speaker 2: Brown have a squeaky wheel game, I mean that infers
Speaker 2: some sort of passing volume for the Eagles. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if we're going to get it. Plus, there's
Speaker 2: a pretty good chance he sees a lot of Joey
Speaker 2: Porter Junior this week, which is not really conducive to
Speaker 2: big receiving numbers.
Speaker 4: Debra, I don't think we see him force fed targets.
Speaker 4: I think AJ Brown can still be AJ Brown. I
Speaker 4: do believe in Joey Porter, and I do believe he's
Speaker 4: probably gonna be shadowed. If there's any wide receiver that
Speaker 4: can overcome Joey Porter Junior, maybe it's AJ Brown. So
Speaker 4: like it, We've got a lot. I've got a lot
Speaker 4: of questions in discord this week about do I start
Speaker 4: AJ Brown? And I'm like, this is not one of
Speaker 4: the walking into the Fantasy playoffs. I'm not going to
Speaker 4: bet against AJ Brown. So, like a lot of people
Speaker 4: are like, really, have you looked at his box scores?
Speaker 5: Like why?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 4: Why would I start him over you know, the court
Speaker 4: like Courtland Sutton or some other guys like not even
Speaker 4: Courtland something, but like some other guys that are further
Speaker 4: down the well. Like I've hat people ask me do
Speaker 4: I start Adam thieln over AJ Brown? And I'm like, look,
Speaker 4: AJ Brown is still freaking AJ Brown. Okay, it takes
Speaker 4: one big play. It takes one crosser that he takes
Speaker 4: to the house to pay off his day. So I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna get that cute, Like I think AJ Brown
Speaker 4: can still do AJ Brown things. But to the point
Speaker 4: of all of this, I think this also could be
Speaker 4: a sneaky game, Like if Joey Porter Junior does put
Speaker 4: the clamps on AJ Brown for most of the game,
Speaker 4: AJ Brown breaks one long. I think there is an
Speaker 4: avenue for DeVonta Smith to have a good game because
Speaker 4: outside of Joey Porter Junior, the Steelers are the Corners
Speaker 4: have not been playing good like since week nine. This
Speaker 4: secondary is allowing the third most receiving yards per game
Speaker 4: two perimeter wide receivers, So you know, it's not a
Speaker 4: great matchup for Grant cal Katara the other guys. Like
Speaker 4: there's really only like two guys in this passing attack.
Speaker 4: They're going to soak up most of the work even
Speaker 4: though there's not a lot of work. So Devanta Smith,
Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna be a little bit higher than consensus on
Speaker 4: him this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah the whole Like have you looked at the box
Speaker 1: score recently, like prior to the Carolina game, Like the
Speaker 1: last four weeks, he was averaging something like eighty five
Speaker 1: yards a game on five or six catches. Like it's
Speaker 1: the touchdowns haven't been there. It's not like he's been
Speaker 1: giving you literal zeros in any.
Speaker 3: Of these games.
Speaker 1: He's wide receiver seven in ECR. Too high, two lower,
Speaker 1: just right, Debro.
Speaker 4: I've got him a little bit lower. I've got him
Speaker 4: a wide receiver eleven, but I think he needs to
Speaker 4: be inside the.
Speaker 3: Top twelve fits too high, two low, just right, wide
Speaker 3: receiver seven.
Speaker 2: I think I'm at wide receiver eight on him, So
Speaker 2: pretty much right right with ECR.
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Speaker 1: of the year. This is the game of the year.
Speaker 1: Certainly to this point, Bill's Lions winner will very likely
Speaker 1: be super Bowl favorites highest game total of the season. Actually,
Speaker 1: I want to double check to see where it is.
Speaker 4: Now super Bowl preview, possibly super.
Speaker 3: Bowl preview, very very possibly.
Speaker 1: I mean this, this could very easily be the two
Speaker 1: to one seeds when we get into the playoffs. Like again,
Speaker 1: the winner of this game is going to be the favorite.
Speaker 1: I would expect. Fifty four and a half is the
Speaker 1: current line on DraftKings, highest total of the year, so
Speaker 1: very simply, I want to ask you, guys, who's winning
Speaker 1: this game?
Speaker 4: De Bro Lions. I'm taking the Lions. I just think
Speaker 4: they have they have more. The Bills are going to
Speaker 4: have a harder time solving all the different equations and
Speaker 4: the ways the Lions can attack you, Like, then I
Speaker 4: think the Bill on the other side, like, are you
Speaker 4: going to sell out to stop the run? Then Jared
Speaker 4: golf is probably going to pick you apart like Matthew
Speaker 4: Stafford did. Okay, are you going to drop back a
Speaker 4: too high than the Lions are going to absolutely just
Speaker 4: steamroll you with the rushing attack.
Speaker 3: Fits who's winning?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Lions too. One of those games though,
Speaker 2: where if it were in Buffalo, I might be picking
Speaker 2: the Bills.
Speaker 5: Like I do.
Speaker 2: Think it's going to be a close game. I think
Speaker 2: it turns out to be a one score game. So yeah,
Speaker 2: what's a spread on this game?
Speaker 4: Because we talked at two and a half last Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that's it should be super tight, like I would
Speaker 4: to be honest, this game should be closer to being
Speaker 4: a pick them.
Speaker 3: Who do you like against the spread.
Speaker 4: Either, I'm just staying away from it, just to be honest,
Speaker 4: if you had staying away from the spread, if I
Speaker 4: if I have to do anything, I would honestly about
Speaker 4: to do anything. I'd bet the over on the total,
Speaker 4: even as high as it is. What if I would
Speaker 4: have bet anything on it?
Speaker 1: What do you prefer fits? Either team against the spread
Speaker 1: or under over on the total.
Speaker 2: I would pick automatic under on the highest total of
Speaker 2: the year. It's just they're just to have a little fun.
Speaker 2: But like, there's one, I mean, he's right, there's I'm.
Speaker 4: Not gonna fault him for that.
Speaker 5: There's One's right.
Speaker 2: The Lions have like one six minute drive and then
Speaker 2: like turn it over inside the red zone and like
Speaker 2: there goes, You're under right there, there goes, You're over
Speaker 2: right there, Like so many things can short circuit and
Speaker 2: over that high in an NFL game, Like I just
Speaker 2: can't bet.
Speaker 5: That, But somebody I'm not.
Speaker 2: I am not actually going to put any of my
Speaker 2: money on either the side or the total in this game.
Speaker 2: But in that pool where I have to make picks,
Speaker 2: I am picking the Lions in laying the two and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, to ask a fantasy question for this game,
Speaker 1: obviously highest total of the year, a lot of high
Speaker 1: expectations for the players, score a lot of points. If
Speaker 1: you had to choose one, Deebro, who is one player
Speaker 1: who might disappoint for fantasy managers?
Speaker 4: This is probably the low hanging fruit. But at Sam Laporta.
Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills have been elite versus tight ends of
Speaker 4: the last few seasons. Matt Mulano, the guy that leads
Speaker 4: the charge and crushing every single tight end that comes
Speaker 4: over the middle of the field, is back. So Sam
Speaker 4: Laporta is a guy like I've had a hard time
Speaker 4: keeping him inside the top twelve tight ends for the week. Really,
Speaker 4: if you're playing this week, you're just hoping and praying
Speaker 4: that he scores a touchdown, which can happen. Again, we're
Speaker 4: talking about a high total game. Touchdowns got to go somewhere.
Speaker 4: But as far as the matchups, it is absolutely brutal.
Speaker 4: Like Buffalo is Hell tight ends to the fourth viewest
Speaker 4: receiving yards per game, the fourth viewest fantasy points per game,
Speaker 4: and the lowest yards per reception. So you're really you're
Speaker 4: just praying he scores a touchdown. And I don't think
Speaker 4: it's crazy if anybody were to stream a tight End
Speaker 4: over him this week.
Speaker 3: You know you're not wrong with that.
Speaker 1: But when you said you're gonna take the little hanging through,
Speaker 1: my first instinct was that I thought you were going
Speaker 1: to say James Cook just going up against yeah, the
Speaker 1: Lions and you know, coming off of a down game.
Speaker 3: But you're right about Laporta too. Fits. What do you
Speaker 3: think one of those two as kind of the guy
Speaker 3: who could disappoint.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Cook for me.
Speaker 2: A Lions run defense is really tough and Cook has
Speaker 2: actually averaged fewer than ten carries over his last three games.
Speaker 5: I like James Cook. I think he's really.
Speaker 2: Good, but I don't have him in I think I
Speaker 2: only have him in like one league this year, and.
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't think a drafted him at all.
Speaker 2: The thing about having a running back who plays with
Speaker 2: Josh Allen sometimes Josh Allen just goes into superhero mode
Speaker 2: and does everything by himself, and that's what we've been
Speaker 2: seeing lately. So it's kind of whittled away at James
Speaker 2: Cook's fantasy value.
Speaker 4: That see, where do you have Cook ranked? Because I've
Speaker 4: got him buried like people could be surprised, like I've
Speaker 4: got him. I've got him in as RB twenty five
Speaker 4: right now, nice late nineteen. If he doesn't score, he's
Speaker 4: probably not gonna be an RB two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like I've got him ranked ahead of
Speaker 2: I had him ahead of Grendo, I had him ahead
Speaker 2: of Aaron Jones, who's dealing with the back thing. I've
Speaker 2: got him ahead of Tyrone Tracy Junior, whose entire offensive
Speaker 2: line is beaten up, ahead a Nause guys like that.
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't I don't think that's too aggressive.
Speaker 1: You know, the NFL often when they have like this
Speaker 1: kind of one clear game of the week, they will
Speaker 1: clear out the deck in that late afternoon slot and
Speaker 1: only have three games because they want everybody to watch
Speaker 1: to do one. This is a great late afternoon slate. Specifically,
Speaker 1: we got those Lions Dealers, Eagles, Bucks Chargers, which you
Speaker 1: don't have a question for this week, Colts Broncos is late.
Speaker 1: Also Patriots Cardinals, which is less interesting. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of late afternoon games this week and I'll you know,
Speaker 1: handful of them are pretty good. So that's a that's
Speaker 1: really fun part of the slate.
Speaker 3: Let's look at Sunday Night.
Speaker 1: Before we get to the key question for Sunday Night's matchup,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys about your Uber Eats
Speaker 1: Sunday Night meals of the week debro. What must order
Speaker 1: food gets you reaching for your Uber Eats app for
Speaker 1: great game day deals When you think of Seattle.
Speaker 4: Maybe this is just uh, my Southern heritage coming out.
Speaker 4: But like when I when you took through this question,
Speaker 4: I mean my first knee jerk reaction and I'm sticking
Speaker 4: with it. Here is oysters, man, Oysters always oysters. Like
Speaker 4: if I'm going to Seattle, if I'm going to New Orleans,
Speaker 4: I'm going into these parts like that have good oysters,
Speaker 4: you better believe I'm eating them.
Speaker 3: What about you, fits?
Speaker 2: Oh man, I love oysters, but when I think of Seattle,
Speaker 2: I think of rainy chili weather, so uh perfect for
Speaker 2: a day like that, a nice bowl of faugh and
Speaker 2: I know like places where you can get far like
Speaker 2: ubiquitous in Seattle, So give me some shortrib faw.
Speaker 4: I don't have flaws like a soul food. Man, It's
Speaker 4: just like you just it warms you up from the
Speaker 4: inside and you just feel it in your soul.
Speaker 1: So I don't have fu very often, and every time
Speaker 1: I do, I'm like I should have it more often.
Speaker 3: Good is really good.
Speaker 1: I like oysters too. It had to be something seafood
Speaker 1: related for me. I like dungeoness crab quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I like salmon. I you know, really, either of those
Speaker 1: two I could happily pick. It's just some kind of seafood.
Speaker 1: I've actually never been to Seattle. It's one of the
Speaker 1: cities I most want to travel to that I haven't
Speaker 1: been to before, and trying, really any variation.
Speaker 3: Of the seafood there would be pretty high on the
Speaker 3: list of what I want to check out. So there
Speaker 3: you have it.
Speaker 1: Our Uber eats Sunday Night meals of the week oysters
Speaker 1: for Debro, a bowl of fu for Fits, and I'll
Speaker 1: say dungeon iss crab for me. In Seattle, Uber Eats
Speaker 1: has the best game day deals all season long. Order
Speaker 1: now for game day, all right, guys, for this game
Speaker 1: packer Seahawks really fun one Fits?
Speaker 3: Is de k Metcalf still a must start? What's our
Speaker 3: concern level with him? In fantasy?
Speaker 2: He is a muss start for me. I mean it's
Speaker 2: still a pretty low concern level. Like, I know, he's
Speaker 2: gone four straight games without a touchdown and four straight
Speaker 2: games with seventy or fewer receiving yards. Probably the emergence
Speaker 2: of Jackson Smith and Jigba has at least put a
Speaker 2: small dent in DK's fantasy value. But on the other hand,
Speaker 2: like Tyler Lockett is just invisible now and not really
Speaker 2: involved in this offense, so there are targets for DK.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep betting on this huge, freakishly
Speaker 2: athletic wide receiver who has just consistently put up good
Speaker 2: numbers year after year.
Speaker 5: Like I'm going to keep making that bet.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Debra, I think he should be started.
Speaker 4: I've got him at a wide receiver twenty four, which
Speaker 4: is probably a below consensus. I've got JSN ranked above him,
Speaker 4: but I think he's a wide receiver too. I think
Speaker 4: it depends on the context of your league and of
Speaker 4: your team stuff like that, But based off of where
Speaker 4: you're starting, if you're starting him, like I think some
Speaker 4: other guys like could make the roster, could make the list,
Speaker 4: like I want to stay in the flames of Jordan Addison,
Speaker 4: I'll start him over DK Metcalf. Actually I love DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 4: This week, I'm starting him over DK Metcalf. So I
Speaker 4: think he's in the wide receiver two conversation and a
Speaker 4: lot of teams that is going to put him in
Speaker 4: must start category. But I think it comes down to team,
Speaker 4: team build. I don't think that he's just He's not
Speaker 4: a guy at this point where I feel like you
Speaker 4: just see him on your roster and you say, okay,
Speaker 4: playing him automatically. I don't think I'm like, I'm not there,
Speaker 4: But considering where you know your team is built and
Speaker 4: stuff like that, he's probably gonna be the starting lineup
Speaker 4: for a lot of people too.
Speaker 1: Though, Do I ever think it just gut reaction shooting
Speaker 1: from the hip. Where will jess N be ranked in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five wide receiver rankings and where Wi DK
Speaker 1: Metcalfe ranks.
Speaker 3: What's that gap going to look like?
Speaker 4: Debra wide receiver twelve to fourteen versus wide receivers seventeen
Speaker 4: to twenty fits no, not four, not four, and JAYSN
Speaker 4: takes the favor.
Speaker 2: I'll predict JSN is wide receiver fifteen and DK's wide
Speaker 2: receiver twenty three.
Speaker 3: So you know, handful of spots apart for both of
Speaker 3: you guys.
Speaker 1: All right, let's look, we have a why do we
Speaker 1: have a Monday night doubleheader this week?
Speaker 3: Was there a reason for that?
Speaker 4: Just they wanted to take the NFL once chaos? I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 3: I like was very really I did a double take
Speaker 3: when I saw that.
Speaker 1: I was not expecting that. Well, one of those games
Speaker 1: is Bears Vikings. Jordan Addison, obviously, like has been really incredible.
Speaker 1: Two of the last three weeks he's been a top
Speaker 1: three Fantasy wide receiver.
Speaker 3: One of those weeks he was number one.
Speaker 1: How is he going to follow up his insane three
Speaker 1: touchdown Week fourteen performance, And by the way, he's going
Speaker 1: up against the Bears, which a few weeks ago was
Speaker 1: the other of those top three wide receiver finishes. So
Speaker 1: he's unwell in this matchup before fits. How is he
Speaker 1: going to follow up Week fourteen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Addison is one of the players the I need
Speaker 2: upside people are going to be starting over ceed Lamb
Speaker 2: this week, which I personally think would be a mistake.
Speaker 2: Like he's a hard guy to peg, because he obviously
Speaker 2: had the he had a big game against the Bears
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago and gets him again now
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two yards in a touchdown, and
Speaker 2: obviously he destroyed the Falcons last week one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty three yards, three touchdowns.
Speaker 5: But Addison has also had.
Speaker 2: Forty two or fewer receiving yards in five of the
Speaker 2: eleven games he's played this season, So there there are
Speaker 2: whiffs here. Like he is a he's a slugger man,
Speaker 2: swing for the fences. He's going to strike out a
Speaker 2: few times. The Vikings obviously have some other talented pass catchers,
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson, it's never going to surprise anyone if he
Speaker 2: gives you one hundred and forty yard game.
Speaker 5: TJ.
Speaker 2: Hockinson had more than one hundred receiving yards against the
Speaker 2: Bears a couple of weeks ago, too so. But like
Speaker 2: Addison is a terrific player, man, And if you watched
Speaker 2: his college last college season at Pitt, like you know
Speaker 2: that this guy is a true stud. So like as
Speaker 2: with DK, I'm inclined to keep better on. You know,
Speaker 2: just a guy who I know to be a good receiver,
Speaker 2: even if he's got some target competition.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Debra, I feel like like Addison's
Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty seven in ECR that feels is too
Speaker 1: low with what he's done.
Speaker 4: Too low, too low, And FITZI, I love you, but
Speaker 4: I'm one of the guys that I'm gonna play Addison
Speaker 4: over Ceede Lamb. I've got him at wide receiver nineteen.
Speaker 4: I got Lamb at waterceover twenty two. The Carolina secondary
Speaker 4: has been better. It's freaking Cooper rush Ceedee Lamb's banged up,
Speaker 4: and I don't I can't say that he doesn't get
Speaker 4: popped one time and then leaves the game. I think
Speaker 4: Addison just crushes again. And this Chicago Bears team has
Speaker 4: given up. They have that they are done. The season
Speaker 4: is done. The past defense has given up. The run
Speaker 4: defense has given up. If Aaron Jones is not one
Speaker 4: hundred percent, then then Minnesota's gonna throw the ball even more.
Speaker 4: I mean, Addison has been on fire man, and I
Speaker 4: was really low on Addison entering this season, So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna own that L here looked at the gate like
Speaker 4: it was gonna be a good I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: and look look what he's doing over the first part
Speaker 4: of the season, like weeks one through eight, wide receiver
Speaker 4: forty six and fantasy points per game. Since Week nine,
Speaker 4: this dude is the wide receiver six and fantasy points
Speaker 4: per game, and he is making me own the l
Speaker 4: for fading him this year, I'm staying in the Flames, dude.
Speaker 4: I think Addison and this passing attack just take advantage
Speaker 4: of what is a Bears team that is ready to
Speaker 4: turn the page to twenty twenty five and the Vikings
Speaker 4: are just gonna absolutely crush them this week.
Speaker 1: Didn't I offer you Addison in a trade in our
Speaker 1: dynasty league this offseason?
Speaker 3: And you laughed in me.
Speaker 4: I don't know. You've sent me a lot of bad
Speaker 4: trades where kind of lost you save me a pretty
Speaker 4: terrible one recently that I will not throw you under
Speaker 4: the bus for publicly pretty terrible. Whatever.
Speaker 1: One more Monday night game here Falcons Raiders. Sincere McCormick
Speaker 1: has at least twelve carries him back to back games, Debro,
Speaker 1: just keep it simple on this one.
Speaker 3: Where are we ranking McCormick for week fifteen.
Speaker 4: I've got him as a top twenty four running back,
Speaker 4: got him pulling it up right now. I think I've
Speaker 4: got him at a wider I've got a running back
Speaker 4: twenty three for the week. I mean Antonio Peers says,
Speaker 4: stayed right with his promise to get him more work,
Speaker 4: and Sincere has been good man nineteen percent in his
Speaker 4: tackle rate, two point eight four yards of the contact prettempt.
Speaker 4: This is another game where since here's probably gonna flirt
Speaker 4: with twenty touches and if he gets into the end
Speaker 4: zone he is an RB two for the week.
Speaker 1: You are above consensus. He's RB twenty nine in ECR.
Speaker 1: That's half APR scoring fits.
Speaker 3: What do you think? Where are you ranking him?
Speaker 2: I've got him RB twenty seven, and I might have
Speaker 2: to move him up a little more like I've got
Speaker 2: him right behind starting at running back twenty three Tyrone
Speaker 2: Tracy Najee Harris from Andre Stevenson, Brayleen Allen, DeAndre Swift
Speaker 2: Sincere McCormick. I could certainly make a case for putting
Speaker 2: him ahead of Braileen Allen and DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 5: Swift for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean Swift is dealing with a groin issue, like
Speaker 2: the Bears haven't been running the ball while later and
Speaker 2: like Deebro said, they're waving the white flag. The matchup
Speaker 2: is terrible too, so yeah, like he probably needs to
Speaker 2: come up. I think he's flexworthy. It's not a super
Speaker 2: easy matchup against the Falcons, who are much better against
Speaker 2: the run than the past. Not a bad matchup, fell,
Speaker 2: but man, I love mccormicks matchups in Week sixteen and
Speaker 2: seventeen against the Jaguars and Saints.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the quiet guy that could help people to
Speaker 4: titles that they picked up off the waiver wire.
Speaker 1: We saw it for the Raiders last year. Maybe we
Speaker 1: see it again with a different name of this year.
Speaker 4: True.
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