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Speaker 1: Ahead on American Sunrise early edition, another deadly example of

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Speaker 1: what looks like leftist violence in America. The FBI says

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Speaker 1: it's likely another radicalized young man was behind the shooting

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Speaker 1: at an ICE facility in Dallas. Has war been declared

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Speaker 1: and only one side is fighting? One of the apologists

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, And now President Trump is threatening to sue

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Speaker 1: ABC for using programs like Kimmel's show as a de

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Speaker 1: facto campaign contribution to the Democrats. The FBI says it

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Speaker 1: did find highly classified documents at John Bolton's home at

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Speaker 1: that raid last month, which would justify the move Democrats

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Speaker 1: Former FBI lover boy Peter Struck loses his lawsuit claiming

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Speaker 1: his firing from the FBI was unlawful. You'll remember Struck,

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Speaker 1: he was the FBI agent working on the Russia collusion case,

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Speaker 1: caught texting his lover at the bureau about how much

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Speaker 1: It is? President Trump replaces the official portrait of Joe

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Speaker 1: auto pen. Well, at least it's more accurate. American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition begins now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith,

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Speaker 2: freedom and the values that built this nation takes center.

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Speaker 1: Stack your good deeds and bad deaths. That's how we're

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Speaker 1: Good morning, it's a Thursday. I'm Jake Novak. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Right now is dr our affility from the Law Fair

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Speaker 1: Project and a Gerard. I want to believe. I want

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Speaker 1: to believe this. So that's how I'm going to catch

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Speaker 1: this question to you. First, I want to believe that

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Speaker 1: beeped up law enforcement, smarter cases, smarter prosecution, smarter civil prosecutions,

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Speaker 1: civil suits, is a way that we can stop this

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Speaker 1: antifa violence, this left wing violence in America before it

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Speaker 1: turns into armed conflict. When against that right now, the

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Speaker 1: shots are just coming from one side, let's face it.

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Speaker 1: So I'd like to get your non your non military

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Speaker 1: options that you can present to us on what we

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Speaker 1: to look like absolutely organized leftist violence against certain targets

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Speaker 4: It's absolutely organized and it's chaotic. That's the point of this.

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Speaker 4: It is to conspire in such a way as to

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Speaker 4: cause the most damage to our democracy. And from a

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Speaker 4: non military perspective, we do need law enforcement, but more importantly,

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Speaker 4: we need to have intelligence. This is an intelligence mission

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Speaker 4: first and foremost. These are people who are using the

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Speaker 4: power of the Internet and anonymity to gather together and

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Speaker 4: do all of these misdeeds. So the most important thing

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Speaker 4: that we need right now is intelligence to discover the

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Speaker 4: identities of these people, who funds them, how they operate.

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Speaker 4: Then you can bring the prosecution to bear. Then you

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Speaker 4: may need to bring the military to bear. If these

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Speaker 1: That's beyond law enforcement.

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Speaker 4: But the single most important thing is identifying who these

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Speaker 1: I mean, this reminds me of the early days of

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Speaker 1: the War on Terror. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: Patriot Act, last time I checked, Gerard, is still in place.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that there are some things that we

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Speaker 4: There absolutely are, and those are actually the intelligence apparatus,

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Speaker 4: Issue is we need the intelligence to go after them,

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Speaker 4: and the Piiciotact gives us that intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Gerard. Perhaps the focus legally can be on the non

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Speaker 1: combatants you're talking about, just in a moment, the ones

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Speaker 4: Now we absolutely can, and this is something that the

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Speaker 4: I used to do counters and finance ligation, which meant

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Speaker 4: no different. You have the tools to track the money,

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Speaker 4: These do seem to be some of the same funding mechanisms,

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Speaker 4: Inspired by the same propagandan indoctrination you see on college campuses. So,

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Speaker 4: they all play the same messaging, they all share the

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that messaging because President Tremp is looking

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Speaker 4: It could be, but with a big caveat equal time

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Speaker 1: Well, and another action that's going on right now, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any legal tool against this,

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Speaker 4: And it's understandable that people on the left don't even

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Speaker 4: not antifa, it's a social justice movement. They call it

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Speaker 5: This states to stop violence is wrong. Politically motivated violence

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Speaker 5: This has very real consequences. Look, in America, we disagree.

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Speaker 5: That's fine, that's the democratic process. But your political opponents

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Speaker 1: All right, Okay, now let's hear you from Vice President Vance. Emily,

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Speaker 3: You don't have to agree with my immigration policies, you

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Speaker 1: Okay, Emily, I know those are pretty two pretty good contenders.

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Speaker 6: I definitely JD vance in my opinion. I thought he

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Speaker 6: JD usually steps up in these kind of situations, and

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Speaker 1: Well, what will be interesting to see, Emily, is if

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Speaker 1: the people who are selling the homes need to find

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Speaker 1: mortgage and then looking at a condo that they need

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Speaker 1: to buy with seven percent. That's not gonna work for them.

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Speaker 1: So we need this to move, all right, folks, You

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Speaker 1: guys know that the NFL is hot. Whether you like

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Speaker 1: it or not, it just is is America's number one

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Speaker 1: NFL knows it. And now they're acting like the Corleone family.

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Speaker 1: They want to renegotiate their TV and streaming deals now

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Speaker 1: they weren't supposed to renegotiate these deals until a couple

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Speaker 1: of years from now, but they want to do it now.

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Speaker 1: And there's a couple of reasons why. One is, it's

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Speaker 1: hotter than ever. You might as well try to negotiate

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Speaker 1: more money when you negotiate more money when you're hot.

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Speaker 1: But there's another reason. You know, there's still a lot

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Speaker 1: to be consolidation in streaming pretty soon, probably be just

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Speaker 1: Netflix and Amazon, and the rest of them will somehow

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Speaker 1: fold into something else. So, while there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: streaming companies still competing, the NFL wants to renegotiate. It's

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Speaker 1: because in three years there may not be as many

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Speaker 1: people sitting at the table and as much money to

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Speaker 1: be made. Roger Goodell is a stone cold gangster. He

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Speaker 1: knows how to squeeze money out of this product better

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Speaker 1: but he knows what he's doing with money, and that's

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Speaker 1: what the NFL is trying to do right now. Okay, ladies,

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Speaker 1: The company is now going to extend those lower interest

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Speaker 1: you who think that's counterintuitive, don't the people who don't

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Speaker 1: have good credit need lower interest rates anyway. Listen, the

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Speaker 1: get a good rate is that the lenders trying to

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Speaker 1: discourage you from taking a loan you may not be

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Speaker 1: able to pay back. That's the logic behind it. Well,

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Speaker 1: Ford is willing to roll the dice here. But like

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Speaker 1: I said, this is a gamble not only for the

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Speaker 1: usual reasons, but also because of what I've talked about

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Speaker 1: here on this program. In this Moving America segment, loan

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Speaker 1: defaults on car loans are through the roof here in America.

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Speaker 1: The number of people who are trading in cars that

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Speaker 1: at an all time high. And yet in this environment,

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Speaker 1: Ford is still willing to try to get some more

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Speaker 1: people both to make big, big loans, to take out

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Speaker 1: big loans and buy the Ford F one fifty. Now

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Speaker 1: here's one of the reasons why this may be a

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Speaker 1: great idea. Most people, I think in America buy the

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Speaker 1: Ford F one fifty for more than just something that

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Speaker 1: And perhaps that Ford is looking at this and saying

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Speaker 1: going to be using it for increased business activity and

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Speaker 1: that will generate more money for them and they will

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Speaker 1: be able to pay back the loan that way. I

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Speaker 1: sure hope they're right. I would hate to see more

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Speaker 1: loan default here in the United States. The Ford F

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Speaker 1: one fifty has been the top selling vehicle in America

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Speaker 1: for more than forty years. It may have come in

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Speaker 1: tied last year with the Toyota rav four. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we're ever going to get an honest answer about that.

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Speaker 1: We have conflicting reports about that, but needless to say,

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Speaker 1: All Right, there's a company called Lithium Americas and it's

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Speaker 1: stock doubled yesterday in one day. Why because the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration is seeking an equity stake. They're looking to buy

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Speaker 1: a share of this company. Now why, it's a mining company.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a Canadian company, but it owns the biggest

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Speaker 1: lithium mine here in the United States that's in Nevada,

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Speaker 1: and lithium, for those of you who know, is a

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Speaker 1: very very major, important part of what is needed for batteries,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a hybrid car and an electric vehicle, other

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Speaker 1: types of things like that. For the people who are

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Speaker 1: going crazy about this and getting all upset about the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration buying into private companies, the justification from the

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Speaker 1: White House's point of view is that this is a

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Speaker 1: national security issue. If we don't have these rare earth

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Speaker 1: miners working with the United States exclusively or at least

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Speaker 1: with US in some way, they can very easily supply

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Speaker 1: our enemies with weapons grade materials that are needed for

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Speaker 1: war and other things that we won't have if they

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Speaker 1: go overseas. This is similar to a nationalization of plutonium

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Speaker 1: or uranium mining. Literally, we can't let other countries do that,

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Speaker 1: and we haven't done that for more than seventy years.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the strongest justification for them. But you

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Speaker 1: can make money on it. Maybe take a look at

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Speaker 1: some of the companies that do rare earths because their

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Speaker 1: socks could double in one day too. All Right, another

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Speaker 1: one bites the dust. You know, I love doing this.

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Speaker 1: This time it's the electric Accura zd X. It's an

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Speaker 1: all electric vehicle SUV. It's going away, folks. It had

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Speaker 1: one model year this year. Not enough demand. Accura's getting

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Speaker 1: rid of it. They tried a bunch of huge discounts

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Speaker 1: by the way to boost sales. Didn't work. Bye bye,

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Speaker 1: no more ev ZDX. Right. Meanwhile, getting back to Ford,

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Speaker 1: they are looking into a hybrid version of the Mustang. Now.

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Speaker 1: Probably they're looking for the chance that their mock all

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Speaker 1: electric Mustang won't won't continue to be as popular as

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Speaker 1: it is. I've got to do a little bit of it,

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Speaker 1: you know. Admission here. Not all evs are unpopular in sales.

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Speaker 1: The mock e Ford Mustang, the electric version of the Mustang,

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Speaker 1: actually has been selling pretty well. But Ford wants to

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Speaker 1: hedge its bets and they are reportedly now looking into

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Speaker 1: a hybrid version of the Mustang to come out in

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Speaker 1: a year or so. So we'll keep an eye eye

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Speaker 1: on that, all right. What do real tech experts think

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Speaker 1: about the new one hundred thousand dollars fee that President

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Speaker 1: Trump was slapping on every h one BB's a job

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Speaker 1: that American companies are using to bring in foreign workers. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to a tech expert and you're

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Speaker 1: going to hear from her when American Sunrise Early edition

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Speaker 1: comes right back. It's Thursday, September twenty fifth. Here are

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Speaker 1: this morning's top stories. Another deadly example of leftist violence

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Speaker 1: in America, as the FBI says it's likely another radicalized

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Speaker 1: young man was behind the shooting at an ICE facility

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Speaker 1: in Dallas. Has war been declared but only one side

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Speaker 1: is actually fighting? One of the apologists and diversionary foot

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Speaker 1: soldiers in the War on America is Jimmy Kimmel. And

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Speaker 1: now President Trump is threatening to sue ABC for using

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Speaker 1: programs like Kimmel's show and others as de facto campaign

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Speaker 1: contributions to the Democrats. Hey, the FBI says it did

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Speaker 1: find highly classified documents at John Bolton's home at that

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Speaker 1: raid last month. Remember the uproar, Well, that would justify

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Speaker 1: the move that Democrats insisted with. Simply an act of

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Speaker 1: revenge by the Trump administration, and hey, it's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be fun to be president. President Trump replaces the official

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Speaker 1: portrait of Joe Biden at the White House with a

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Speaker 1: picture of the auto pen. I think that might be

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Speaker 1: more accurate. But all kidding aside, I'd like the pictures

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Speaker 1: of the people who took the money I think to

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Speaker 1: make those pardons and clemencies at the last minute. American

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Speaker 1: Sunrise Early Edition continues. Now, welcome back to American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition. It's a Thursday already. This week is moving fast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Novak. Thank you so much for joining us,

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Speaker 1: especially those of you on the Getter chat who now

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Speaker 1: watching us live on substack as well on x and commenting.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that. Again, the days of

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Speaker 1: passive TV news watching should have been over forty years ago,

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Speaker 1: but they are certainly over now, and your comments are appreciated.

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Speaker 1: I often learn from them, and even when you take

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Speaker 1: a hit at me, hey, at least it keeps me humble.

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Speaker 1: Joining us again, she was with us last week, Joining

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Speaker 1: us again because there's a tech issue we got to

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Speaker 1: talk to her about. Is tech expert and leave shoots

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Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you're available today because I've been

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Speaker 1: talking about this story that I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have understandably not been looking at all that much

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Speaker 1: with all the other news going on. But President Trump

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Speaker 1: over the weekend announcing he's gonna slap a one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars fee on each H one bvs a job.

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Speaker 1: By the way, every year, this is an annual fee

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Speaker 1: that American companies use H one vvs the US to

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Speaker 1: bring in foreign workers. I'd like to get your overall

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into some specifics in a second,

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Speaker 1: but i'd like your overall take on this policy.

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Speaker 7: And sure, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 8: First, we know a lot more as of yesterday and

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Speaker 8: earlier in your broadcast you mentioned a book Bonfire the vanities.

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Speaker 8: I'll mention a book tail of two cities, except here

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Speaker 8: it's tale of two worlds, two completely different worlds. You

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Speaker 8: have the perspective of big tech companies, and that's very

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Speaker 8: different than the perspective of small tech companies and your

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Speaker 8: US SBIR companies. Separately. You have two different worlds of

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Speaker 8: use of the H one B system for merit based

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Speaker 8: immigration to get the best and the brightest here with

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Speaker 8: our US industrial base, versus abuse of the system for

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Speaker 8: cheap labor.

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Speaker 7: So when we look at this, we're really looking at.

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Speaker 8: It from two different worlds, and we have two different

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Speaker 8: views that bring an important perspective.

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Speaker 1: All right. And there's a media aspect of this that

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Speaker 1: I keep pounding the table on that I want to

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Speaker 1: bring into because this is an important aspect of this,

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Speaker 1: and this is something that I have personal experience with.

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Speaker 1: So I'd like to bounce it off of you. Every media,

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Speaker 1: mainstream media company in this country, whether it's the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal, CNBC, and of course i'm talking about these

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Speaker 1: financial groups. First have for eleven or ten years or

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Speaker 1: so now been bringing in H one B visa workers

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Speaker 1: of this country. I had this experience at CNBC where

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Speaker 1: one day in twenty fourteen or twenty fifteen, dozens of

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Speaker 1: H ONEB visas workers came in to do the back

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Speaker 1: office work on our website. Our website, by the way,

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Speaker 1: was fantastic already. It wasn't like, oh, we have a

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Speaker 1: bad website. We need to ramp up our competition. We

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Speaker 1: need to bring in these foreign geniuses who have training

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Speaker 1: that Americans don't have. They were obviously doing this to

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Speaker 1: undermine the American earning power to pay the same for

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Speaker 1: the same work less money. Uh is is this an

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Speaker 1: unusual instance? Was this just happening at the NBC in

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal or does this happen elsewhere?

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Speaker 7: Well, here we get into the two different worlds. So

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Speaker 7: there is a world.

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Speaker 8: Where we really can use the H one B system

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Speaker 8: to our advantage, you know, as a as an American,

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Speaker 8: as Americans, and that is bringing in the best and

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Speaker 8: the brightest in certain types of technical and engineering degrees.

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Speaker 8: Just like sports, we want the best people, and we

651
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Speaker 8: want all the best people. We want all the all

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Speaker 8: the best talent. So using the system to bring in

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Speaker 8: the best and the brightest engineers, so we have them

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Speaker 8: with our US workforce. That's a good use of the system.

655
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Speaker 8: Whereas just using it to bring in lower cost labor

656
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Speaker 8: and be able to reduce the cost of labor, that's

657
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Speaker 8: what's being viewed as not a good use of the system.

658
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Speaker 8: And some companies take it even further where they use abuse.

659
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Speaker 8: They use this for abusive practices, not just coming in

660
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Speaker 8: and not using the system for the best and the

661
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Speaker 8: brightest and bringing in the best engineers, but just to

662
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Speaker 8: replace and reduce labor costs and also sometimes even drastically

663
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Speaker 8: bring in cheap labor park these individuals and then use

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Speaker 8: them for other projects just to outsource costs versus really

665
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Speaker 8: trying to bring in good people for the companies. So

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Speaker 8: this point that you're bringing you, that you're bringing up

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Speaker 8: is really what the main concern is with this new policy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called sweatshop. You know, someone who's worried they're

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Speaker 1: going to get deported because their visa is not going

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Speaker 1: to get application is not going to get approved by

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Speaker 1: the company. Who knows what they'll do to keep it.

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Speaker 1: And again I will once again give my warning here,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many people are watching who can

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Speaker 1: make a difference about this. But if you're a mainstream

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Speaker 1: media outlet, ABC, CBS, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, CNBC,

676
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Speaker 1: all going to name all of you and you are

677
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Speaker 1: not disclosing in your articles and stories and reports about

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Speaker 1: this issue that you yourself to use a massive number

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Speaker 1: of h one bbs of workers that you didn't need

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Speaker 1: or didn't say you needed eleven years ago or ten

681
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Speaker 1: years ago. That is a real case of journalistic really malpractice.

682
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Speaker 1: You need to tell the people that you're a using

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Speaker 1: or abusing this process yourself. And I want to talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the future here because I had

685
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Speaker 1: a guest on a couple of days ago, a banking

686
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Speaker 1: guest who told me something that I had to check

687
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Speaker 1: to see if he was right, and he was right.

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Speaker 1: Young Americans with tech degrees, especially in computer science and

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Speaker 1: software engineering, are suffering with a higher unemployment rate than

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Speaker 1: the general unemployment rate. This scares the heck out of me.

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Speaker 1: How in the world is that possible? And is it possible?

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Speaker 1: And that using cheaper foreign labor to do that is

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they're suffering this higher unemployment rate.

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Speaker 8: So you know, there's there's there's the best in the varietest,

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Speaker 8: you know, pushing our industry, pushing US companies ahead. And

696
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Speaker 8: there is always the you know, there's always the ability

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Speaker 8: to absorb the best and the brightest in the workforce.

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Speaker 8: You know, we want the best global talent if we

699
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Speaker 8: want to remain the most competitive country in the world,

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Speaker 8: we want global talents.

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Speaker 7: Where the issue.

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Speaker 8: Comes is you start looking at various grades below that

703
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Speaker 8: and we start getting out of the best and the

704
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Speaker 8: brightest technical and engineering degrees and to just tech tech

705
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Speaker 8: servicing and tech workers. And that's where we get into

706
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Speaker 8: the body shops and the replacement of labor not you know,

707
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Speaker 8: at some of these mid tier, mid tier tech level positions.

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Speaker 8: And that's really where we saw a lot of information

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Speaker 8: yesterday as come out with the notice of proposed rulemaking

710
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Speaker 8: that came out yesterday was published on the Federal register,

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Speaker 8: So yesterday were there. Yesterday is probably the day we

712
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Speaker 8: got the most information about the intent of this one

713
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Speaker 8: hundred thousand dollars application fee. The Department of Homeland Security

714
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Speaker 8: put out a request for comments on a proposed rule

715
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Speaker 8: that essentially says, all right, we're going to have this,

716
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Speaker 8: We're going to have system in place, and it's going.

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Speaker 7: To be weighted, and it's going to be wage weighted.

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Speaker 8: Therefore, the you know, the top talented jobs, the most competitive,

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Speaker 8: the most need based engineering jobs, we really want to

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Speaker 8: bring in global talent, those are going to be weighted

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Speaker 8: in favor of those applications, whereas just general lower wage

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Speaker 8: tech jobs are going to be weighed low.

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Speaker 7: They're going to be weighted lower.

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Speaker 8: And that way, it's going to reduce the number of applications.

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Speaker 8: It's going to help stream streamline UH companies that really

726
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Speaker 8: want to bring in the best engineers for US companies

727
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Speaker 8: into the process. So what we saw yesterday speaks to

728
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Speaker 8: the intent of the one hundred thousand dollars application fee

729
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Speaker 8: to favor bringing in the people we need, the people

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Speaker 8: we want, the people that make Ameris companies the greatest

731
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Speaker 8: global talent, US talent we want everybody, versus just trying

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Speaker 8: to replace US labor with lower cost labor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to see our youth in America

734
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Speaker 1: have been told learn to code. Learn to code. There's

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Speaker 1: like coding coding academies, by the way, like in store

736
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Speaker 1: for us all over the country and strip malls. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see that those skills go to waste. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I also want more kids to learn how to be

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Speaker 1: plumbers and mechanics too. But look, the folks who put

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Speaker 1: that effort in, they were doing that in good faith.

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Speaker 1: And the last thing I want to ask him, but listen,

742
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Speaker 1: I was interested to see that you're not alone in

743
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Speaker 1: the opinions that you have about this. There is one

744
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Speaker 1: big tech founder and that is Reed Hastings who agrees

745
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Speaker 1: that this is a good policy. He is the guy

746
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Speaker 1: who started Netflix. Listen. He's not in the world of

747
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Speaker 1: Trump cheerleaders, let's just put it that way. And the

748
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Speaker 1: fact that he is willing to support this, this gives

749
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Speaker 1: me hope. This is someone who knew you know. Again,

750
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Speaker 1: it's not one of those like tech companies where he

751
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Speaker 1: can sort of hide behind the shadows. He's in a

752
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Speaker 1: media company now basically they make movies and TV and

753
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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. And for him to say

754
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Speaker 1: that this is a good policy, I was encouraged by that.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that if that gave you a little

756
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Speaker 1: bit of a smile. Also, that you're not alone in Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Once again, two worlds.

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Speaker 8: You have the position of tech companies that are really

759
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Speaker 8: trying to do merit based immigration to make you, as companies,

760
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Speaker 8: the strongest, the most industrious, the most competitive, and we

761
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Speaker 8: want the best engineers. We want US engineers, we want

762
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Speaker 8: global and engineers. We want the top talent on our team.

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Speaker 8: And by having this high one time application fee, it

764
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Speaker 8: enables companies that want to make serious investments into serious

765
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Speaker 8: people to bring them into US companies and be part

766
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Speaker 8: of our companies as opposed to just practicing the abusive

767
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Speaker 8: practice of bringing in high numbers off of foreign workers

768
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Speaker 8: to replace US workers to reduce costs for the workforce.

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Speaker 8: So when you're really looking at merit based tech recruitment

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Speaker 8: on a global basis, this can help. It stops the

771
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Speaker 8: high number of applications. It stops those that are just

772
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Speaker 8: trying to bring in high numbers to lower costs from

773
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Speaker 8: doing this abusive practice because they're not going to file

774
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Speaker 8: one hundred thousand dollars per application.

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Speaker 7: And it enables companies.

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Speaker 8: That really want to bring in specific scientists, specific engineers,

777
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Speaker 8: people's specific technical disciplines to come in and be a

778
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Speaker 8: part of the US competitive industry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and also if you're at Netflix, if you're

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Speaker 1: dealing it with the business and first of all, it's

781
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Speaker 1: heavily unionized. Hollywood's heavily unionized. And second of all, you

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Speaker 1: can't have a bunch of actors on a Netflix show

783
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Speaker 1: who don't speak English. It's not gonna work. And Leaveschwitz.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again soon.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Coming up is former FBI director James Comy about to

788
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Speaker 1: get indicted. Be still my heart. David Brodie and I

789
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Speaker 1: will discuss when American Sunrise Early Edition returns. That's a

790
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Speaker 1: live look at Miami, Florida here on this Thursday. Or

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Speaker 1: I really like the way the sun is reflecting. It

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Speaker 1: makes it a gold view on all those buildings. Very

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Speaker 1: very nice. It's a little hazy and a little bit

794
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: sticky here in New York this morning. So once again

795
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Speaker 1: Miami wins Hey, welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition.

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Speaker 1: It's a Thursday. Thank you so much for joining us.

797
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Speaker 1: Is Jim Comey, the former director of the FBI, about

798
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Speaker 1: to get indicted. A lot of reports in the news

799
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Speaker 1: media last night saying that an indictment is imminent. The

800
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Speaker 1: question I have for David Brody as he joins us now,

801
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Speaker 1: is on what I can think of a lot of

802
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Speaker 1: things to indict him for, but I think one of

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Speaker 1: the I guess it seems like lying to Congress is

804
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Speaker 1: going to be the one that's most likely if I

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Speaker 1: had to bet on it.

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Speaker 9: How about you, David, Yeah, that's what it would be

807
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Speaker 9: be wining to Congress. The question really is going to

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Speaker 9: come down to this, Well, a grand jury indict him

809
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Speaker 9: over is there enough evidentiary evidence? Now of course we

810
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Speaker 9: hear Real America's voice to the other conservative networks to say,

811
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Speaker 9: of course there's evidence. Okay, great, but let's slow our

812
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Speaker 9: role for a second. It's all going to depend on

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Speaker 9: what this grand jury says and exactly where this would

814
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Speaker 9: take place, where the grand jury would convene, and I

815
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Speaker 9: haven't seen that. Maybe we don't know yet officially, so

816
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Speaker 9: we'll see this. This is all very interesting, you know,

817
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Speaker 9: because we were talking on the show yesterday and I

818
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Speaker 9: was not convinced at all that this administration would bring

819
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Speaker 9: forward any charges, and here where they are today bring

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Speaker 9: forward potentially some charges.

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Speaker 1: So this just in I was wrong on that. But

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Speaker 1: once again, we'll see.

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Speaker 9: You wonder if Clapper and all of those folks are,

824
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Speaker 9: you know, shaking in their boots.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, maybe people.

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Speaker 9: Should go to the beach and form a cool shell

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Speaker 9: formation spelling out James Comy something with James Comy and

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Speaker 9: his name, because eighty six forty seven, as we know,

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Speaker 9: you know, to me, it was just so interesting when

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Speaker 9: he said eighty six forty seven was quote.

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Speaker 1: A cool that's what you call it? A cool shell formation.

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Speaker 9: Okay, even if you didn't know what it was, which

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Speaker 9: you know, you knew what it was, but even if

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Speaker 9: you did, you wouldn't call it a cool shell formation.

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Speaker 9: I mean, why is that a cool shell format? Anyhow?

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Speaker 9: Don't get me started. This guy is as he's pretty

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Speaker 9: corrupt allegedly there I truly, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Look, I U I say this because I'm with with

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm on now with David, and David knows

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Speaker 1: some of the players that I'm going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: But I highly recommend folks who want to know about

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Speaker 1: the origins of the FBI and where it goes off

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Speaker 1: track and where in my opinion, and again we'll see

844
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Speaker 1: where things go now with Cash Bettel, where in my

845
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Speaker 1: opinion really hasn't changed. Please read the book Leak by

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Speaker 1: Max Holland. It's a really it's not that long and

847
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Speaker 1: you read about how top level people at the FBI

848
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Speaker 1: have operated for a long time, doesn't matter who the

849
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Speaker 1: president is. But what you find out is that their

850
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Speaker 1: number one goal is to increase their power within the FBI.

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Speaker 1: They often work with the president to give the president

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Speaker 1: at the moment what he might want. But sometimes in

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Speaker 1: this case, it looks like James Comy early on decided

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Speaker 1: maybe he'll work with the other side, trying to take

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Speaker 1: a long He lost that bet because, as you know,

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Speaker 1: he was fired early on in President Trump's first administration.

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Speaker 1: But I have to tell you this, this argument that

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Speaker 1: Left is making, the Democrats are making that cash Betel

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Speaker 1: is just a lapdog for President Trump. Well, honestly, you

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Speaker 1: know President Trump was elected. There's accountability there. If an

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Speaker 1: FBI director is working at the behest of the president's agenda,

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Speaker 1: what he feels is a good crime finding a agenda

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Speaker 1: for the United States. To me, that's at least that's

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Speaker 1: a lot more transparent than the j Edgar Hoovers and

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Speaker 1: James Comey's of the world. I don't know who they're

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Speaker 1: working for other than themselves. To me, it's preferable to

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Speaker 1: have someone who's being more accountable to the president.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it goes to a larger issue, and I'm curious

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Speaker 9: to get your take on this. I'll be brief, so

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Speaker 9: obviously it's your show.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you some time to respond, Jake. But here

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Speaker 1: here's the deal.

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Speaker 9: Like, so, Cash Bettel and Dan Bongino, we're trying to

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Speaker 9: get to the bottom of the Tyler Robinson situation, obviously

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Speaker 9: regarding Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Kirk and what happened there.

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Speaker 9: But what if they come out and conclude, yeah, it

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Speaker 9: was a long gun and that's it, end of story,

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Speaker 9: and all of this other stuff that's out there is

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Speaker 9: just not true.

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Speaker 1: Daga believe Cash Betel and.

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Speaker 9: Dan Mangino they should.

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Speaker 1: They should, but I don't know if they will. I'm

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Speaker 1: curious to get your take on that. What would happen then, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, there would be an initial pushback on it,

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Speaker 1: but you know, as we saw with the Epstein Files thing,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of MAGA uproar about it, and

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have tried to seize on it. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, yeah, same thing. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think that there's an

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Speaker 1: understanding that President Trump is the choice for his supporters.

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Speaker 1: There they may not like everything that's moving on, and

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Speaker 1: they have the right to voice it. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's what I don't think it'll be a death blow

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Speaker 1: to put it that way. We are going to have

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Speaker 1: to say goodbye. It's not a death blow, but we

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Speaker 1: are going to say goodbye right now for American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition, American Sunrise The Big Show with David, Doctor

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Speaker 1: g and t Bates on for the next two hours.

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Speaker 1: I'll see them in the nine am hour, and I'll

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Speaker 1: see you on this program tomorrow at seven am. Taking attendance,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.