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Speaker 1: Friday during this twenty twenty five season. That's on YouTube

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Speaker 1: dot com slash at Late Round FF. So, without further ado,

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Speaker 1: here's this week's episode.

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Speaker 2: Welcome In. Welcome In. It's Week twelve Late Round Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Football Show. David Kitchen here alongside JJ JJ. How's it going?

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Speaker 3: Bow, I'm good. I like that. I'm just JJ. No,

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Speaker 3: there's no last name.

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Speaker 2: Sweet JL. So it's Sweet twelve.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't people, I mean they should hypothetically now, yes, because

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Speaker 1: Sweet twelve.

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Speaker 2: I'm with JJ, Zacharies and at Late Round QB on

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Speaker 2: those socials you want to do?

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Speaker 3: You want to?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: We did have Brian Drake on Perspectives this week. Who is?

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Speaker 3: Was I not wrong when I said what I said

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Speaker 3: on the show? How he is?

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Speaker 1: Just like you talk to him and you're like you

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Speaker 1: were made for radio, dude, like you were me.

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Speaker 3: Not because I think he's unattractive, but because.

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Speaker 1: His voice is so so good for radio, Like it's

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Speaker 1: just so good, and he's very good at presenting his

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Speaker 1: information in that way. Me, I am not a radio person.

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Speaker 1: In fact, more people have said that my voice is

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Speaker 1: annoying than not through the years, so I'm probably not

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Speaker 1: even a podcast person, to be honest with.

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Speaker 2: You, Holly. My wife would make fun of me because

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Speaker 2: she would come down whenever I was doing the midnight

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Speaker 2: show back in the day for Serious x SAM Fantasy

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Speaker 2: And there is like a different cadence that you use.

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Speaker 2: You know, Hey, welcome to Serious six am Fantasy Football.

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Speaker 2: You know, like so doing that, and so sometimes even

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Speaker 2: now she'll go, hey, I'm David Kitchen, you know, Like

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Speaker 3: To this day, Avery, my daughter comes up to me

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Speaker 1: Everyone, it's JJ Zachary, Like she still does it to

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Speaker 1: me to this day. She's just grown up literally with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, it is a it's a tough

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Speaker 2: situation when you're famous like you are, JJ. I get it.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: That's definitely what I'm saying here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely when you're everywhere. When your kid just turns

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Speaker 2: This came up this week where my one of my

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Speaker 2: Goes, so's dad, what do I like? What do I say?

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Speaker 2: I need to bring the QR back for just for Patreon.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Davis Maddock recently had a child and you guys

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Speaker 1: were talking about the QR code stuff, and he said

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Speaker 3: And I never have liked Davis less than in that moment.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is like, if you need a

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Speaker 2: Are you done?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Today's fantasy news. All right, let's talk about this Thursday

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Speaker 2: night football game because I wanted, I just want your

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Speaker 2: how bad the Bill's offense looked.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, Okay, I had Josh Allen as

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Speaker 1: a cell on fifteen transactions this week, and it was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the best quarterback in fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Scored like fifty points the other day.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And like I understand, the ceiling is absolutely there.

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Speaker 1: It's just that at quarterback, it's just a naturally little

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Speaker 1: fifteen and sixty or sixteen and seventeen games, rather where

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's gonna go one way or

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Speaker 1: Cleveland right now they're the third best team by justin

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Speaker 1: Fantasy points allowed. And then Championship Week is is in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: not a knocks right now. Yeah, Like they don't have

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Speaker 1: On the flip side, Houston's defense is really good. We

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't like he was complete complete dust last night.

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Speaker 1: come to fruition. Still haven't seen as much Jalen Knowle

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, like I thought that Buffalo really underperformed.

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Speaker 1: Wody Marx right now is that he's not getting enough

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Speaker 3: Like that that's the issue and Marx that that's where

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Speaker 1: Marx is best in a role where he's like a

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Speaker 1: That that's that, that's literally his bread and butter. And

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Speaker 1: that's why the Zap model actually liked him. You know,

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Speaker 1: over the last couple I think he had like, what

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Speaker 1: So this wasn't even last night, but two and a

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Speaker 3: Be more important for his long term value than what

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Speaker 2: Okay, going back to the comment that you might just

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Speaker 2: need to say this, I actually laughed out loud loud

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Speaker 2: last night when you said the Buffalo Jets and Rondel

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Speaker 2: going through it over here, just like you know, it

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of fan bases that hate me.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm sorry I know spors fan base being

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just gonna say not good as my reaction.

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Speaker 1: I think that Coleman, you know, he was a high

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Speaker 1: about this before, being an analyst who just hates on

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Speaker 1: like you could look at like Rashad Bateman right now,

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Speaker 1: He had a good production profile and such, but clearly

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Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective, has not been has not lived

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Speaker 1: A decent enough career where you could say, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: It's not like Josh Dockson or anything like that. Right,

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Speaker 1: But in fantasy we will group a Josh Dockson with

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Speaker 3: You know Keon Coleman dust right now.

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Speaker 1: I think there's one other that I'm missing that someone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think it's performance based or do you think

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Speaker 3: Think it's both.

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Speaker 1: I think that he's not been good and he's also

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Speaker 2: Okay, we just got some I'm gonna skip around from

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Speaker 1: I think the New England backfield is the biggest fantasy

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Speaker 1: I think that Travion on perspectives, Yeah, we talked about

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Speaker 1: Every piece of data points to Traveon Henderson being a

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Speaker 3: But guys like I can't sit here.

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Speaker 1: I can sit here and say I think Travion's better,

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Speaker 1: But teams will do what they want to do. You know,

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Speaker 1: there there are other things that they see that I don't,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's just that's just the way that it goes in fantasy.

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Speaker 1: your takes come to you know, like I'm a big

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Speaker 3: This is that people want to bury one of these guys.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm still bullish on both. Like oddly, I

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think both. I think that backfields

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Speaker 2: All right, broad until week thirteen. So it's a question.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is officially questionable for Sunday. But JJ, yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, well yeah, they were stretching on one side of

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Speaker 3: I think he's playing, You think so.

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Speaker 1: I do, because he's a competitor and he is you know,

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Speaker 1: I joke about this, but at least crossed my mind. Okay,

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want any more weeks of the potential of

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Speaker 1: Like if you're Joe Burrow and you've been sitting out

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Speaker 3: Like that.

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Speaker 1: It's at least it's it's at least something that's driving

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a little bit taky, It's a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, little a little normy, little normy JJ coming through.

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Speaker 3: I don't I really could.

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Speaker 2: I could come back against your normy take and say, well,

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, like I.

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Speaker 1: where Flack, you know, like Burrow, when when players just

440
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Speaker 1: are healthier and feel good and they're competitive, they're gonna

441
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Speaker 1: generally play. And Cincinnati's technically not out of it right now,

442
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Speaker 1: so they're gonna probably throw him on the field and

443
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Speaker 1: see what he can do.

444
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Speaker 2: Okay, Dart out?

445
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Speaker 3: Is that official?

446
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 2: I believe?

447
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, I didn't see that report.

448
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dart is out.

449
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Speaker 3: Well, that's unfortunate. This is this is a.

450
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Speaker 2: True breaking news to you, right. Dun Levy was posted

451
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Speaker 2: in the uh yeah, the chat he's not playing.

452
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Jameis Winston becomes a reasonable streamer this week,

453
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: and it's you know, a down grade to the pass

454
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Speaker 1: catchers there, I'll put I'll put down grade to pass

455
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Speaker 1: catchers is my reaction.

456
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Speaker 3: But I think Dart will be back next week.

457
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Speaker 2: Which is good, Okay, get well soon, Bucky. Bucky Irving

458
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: not going to play this week. He trending to play

459
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Speaker 2: next week apparently. Uh so, I will let you just

460
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Speaker 2: weigh in on this Bucky Irving situation, which was a

461
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Speaker 2: little bit odd. I guess this week.

462
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Speaker 3: It was odd. I think that there was some so, okay,

463
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Speaker 3: what's going on with Bucky Irving?

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Speaker 1: Reportedly, right, he's had this He had the foot injury,

465
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Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh, it's the foot, and then he's

466
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Speaker 1: had the shoulder injury and it's clearly been the Now

467
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Speaker 1: someone said, Okay, I'm just reading the chat to make

468
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Speaker 1: sure because the Jackson Dart stuff people are kind of

469
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Speaker 1: all over the place, sounds like, but no.

470
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Speaker 3: He's officially out.

471
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Speaker 1: But with Bucky Irving, the shoulder injury has been keeping

472
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Speaker 1: him out right. But then it was reported Mike Florio

473
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Speaker 1: came out yesterday in a on his show with Chris Sims,

474
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Speaker 1: and he made a comment about, how you know, I

475
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Speaker 1: don't have the quote, so this isn't verbatim, but it

476
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: was something along the lines of, this is non football

477
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Speaker 1: related that's going on with Bucky Irving. And then he

478
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Speaker 1: made a comment that honestly, like, I think that he

479
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Speaker 1: should be blasted for. And I don't say that very

480
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: frequently about other analysts, about other reporters, because they're just

481
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Speaker 1: trying to do their best. But this was really irresponsible

482
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Speaker 1: in my opinion by him, where he said that they

483
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Speaker 1: would talk about it after the show, him and him

484
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Speaker 1: and Sims. Right, So you're out there saying something and

485
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Speaker 1: saying saying something very vague about Bucky Irving.

486
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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, where people can take all sorts of assumptions

487
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Speaker 2: about what you have.

488
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Speaker 1: So people have taken that and gone in so many

489
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Speaker 1: different directions about and this is a human being, this

490
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Speaker 1: is but Bucky Irving's a person, and you're going out

491
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Speaker 1: there and you're saying, Oh, it could be you know,

492
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Speaker 1: it's it's something that's non football related. So and then

493
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Speaker 1: now everyone's on the internet being like, oh, Bucky Irving

494
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: is on football or you know, it's this, or it's that.

495
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: It sounds like what it does sound like based on

496
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Speaker 1: reporting from Bucks Beat writers.

497
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Speaker 3: So this is not from me.

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Speaker 1: I've not talked to anybody, but it sounds like there's

499
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Speaker 1: been some mental health related thing going on post injury.

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Speaker 1: And I think that if that's the case. You know,

501
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Speaker 1: instead of being like, wow, that's insane, that's so silly,

502
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: that's stupid. You have to understand that these guys are

503
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: athletes and they're doing things at the highest possible level,

504
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: and when something really frustrating, like an injury happens like that,

505
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: it could be very I mean, when guys tear their acls.

506
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: Doctors and physical therapists talk all the time about how

507
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Speaker 1: the recovery from that ACL is not simply the physical recovery,

508
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Speaker 1: it's being able to come back and not be afraid

509
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: to cut, you know, on that it's no different than

510
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: any injury that you've gone through if you're a runner,

511
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: if you're a lifter, and then you go back to

512
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Speaker 1: do that thing, and you think to yourself, oh my gosh,

513
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Speaker 1: I really hope this doesn't happen again.

514
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Speaker 2: Take that.

515
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Speaker 3: Multiply it by about a.

516
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Speaker 1: Million, because it's this guy livelihood, you know, like it's

517
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: that important to this player and to this person, and

518
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: so to me it was really, uh, it was it

519
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: was just a really poor job of communicating that idea

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00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: by Florio. You know, this is I'm only saying about

521
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: this situation, not Florio in general. It's just I think

522
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: that that was handled really, really poorly. Fortunately, it sounds

523
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Speaker 1: like Bucky Irving is going to be back next week.

524
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Speaker 1: That's the way that Todd Bowles talked about it, how

525
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Speaker 1: it's being reported. And so if Bucky is back next week,

526
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Speaker 1: that means from our perspective, because we have to give

527
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: this this fantasy spin because it's what we're doing here.

528
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Speaker 1: From our perspective, that means that in week thirteen there's

529
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Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a ramp up period

530
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Speaker 1: for Bucky. Maybe we see that again in week fourteen,

531
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Speaker 1: and then I'm hoping that that means that once the

532
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Speaker 1: fantasy playoffs hit, he's actually in a pretty good spot

533
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: and they have a really good playoff schedule. They have

534
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: a good schedule after this week. The Buccaneers running backs,

535
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Speaker 1: So I'm excited for Bucky to get back on the field.

536
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: I think one of the most fun running backs to watch.

537
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: And I hope he gets well, Like I hope that

538
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: things are good and that he you know, has his

539
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: has things in check and he feels great about it

540
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: because you know, we want to see him perform, and

541
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: that's it's important to us as as fans of the game.

542
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I want to see book you out there.

543
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: I want to see all those guys out there. I'd

544
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: like to see samuela Porte out there too. But it

545
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: reported that he had back surgery and is uh basically

546
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: slim chance that he comes back this season. And that's

547
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Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that. Were you expecting that?

548
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 3: I mean he was on IR, Yeah, but I thought

549
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Speaker 3: I thought he'd just come.

550
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Speaker 1: Back maybe, Yeah, I mean there was some speculation that

551
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: was a bad back injury. But I you know, I'm

552
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Speaker 1: I mean, admittedly I don't have a ton of Samuel

553
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Speaker 1: Porta and and you know, I uh, I haven't like

554
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: checked the same way that I've.

555
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: Been and he did have Jamo. Yeah. Yeah.

556
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Speaker 1: Part of the thing with that, though, part of the

557
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: thing with that is that, like when a dude goes

558
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Speaker 1: on IR from my process perspective, so you guys can

559
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: kind of see how I'm thinking, how I think about

560
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: this stuff. When a dude goes on IR and I

561
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: know he still has three weeks on IR, I don't

562
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: need to really keep tabs on his situation until there's

563
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: a report, you know, like until we get closer to

564
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: when he's coming back, and I can see but he

565
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: still had a few more weeks left. He's only been

566
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: on IR for one week, so from my perspective, I'm like, yeah,

567
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really have to plan a haggasse.

568
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: I don't have that much Laporta. I'm not going to

569
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: really dig into this right now because I don't need to.

570
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be talking about him on the podcast and stuff,

571
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: but I am going to talk about him now because

572
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 1: he's obviously off for the year. I think that this

573
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: is a really big deal for the Lions offense just

574
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: in general. But a lot of people are gonna take

575
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: what happened last week against Philadelphia and sort of translate

576
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: it and think, like you know, and use a little

577
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: bit of too much correlation and causality with Sam Laporta

578
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: being out and thinking that that's the reason why they struggled.

579
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Speaker 3: I'm sure that played a role because he's good, But

580
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: they're gonna bounce back.

581
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: Then.

582
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Speaker 1: They're probably gonna bounce back this week. Like I would

583
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: not be shocked if they put a forty burger up

584
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: against the Giants. This is very similar to what happened

585
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: after Week one against the Packers. So I'm uh, you know,

586
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: get well soon, Sammy. Yeah, my Dynasty rosters will miss you.

587
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

588
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: I do think that this could help Jamison Williams a

589
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: little bit even give Aram and Ross Saint Brown a

590
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: little bit more love.

591
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: You know, brock Wright is like a low end tight

592
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: end two now each week, but also low key. We

593
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 3: might see a little bit more.

594
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Speaker 1: J Mer Gibbs Gibbs, Yeah, you might see a little

595
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: bit more of him through through the because they ran more.

596
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: It seemed like, at least I didn't.

597
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: I didn't dig into this, but it seemed like they

598
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: ran more to running back sets this past week against

599
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia this.

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Speaker 2: Week and the late round discord again. You can go

601
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Speaker 2: to laterun dot com to join the Patreon and join

602
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: the discord and hang out with us. Whenever the news

603
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: broke about Trey Benson, Yeah, it was just I was

604
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 2: getting alerts, pings, JJ get in here, and then you

605
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: come in all caps, Travion Benson. Let's go like, we

606
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: just weren't expecting the timing of it, and so it

607
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: was a pleasant surprise. That being said, he did look

608
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: good in practice. Gannon said, we'll see how he goes today,

609
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: that being today being Friday, And then they did sign

610
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: Jamar Jefferson to the active roster since her McCormick to

611
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: the practice squad. So not really sure what's gonna happen

612
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he's gonna go this week in

614
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: my opinion, And honestly, we'll probably learn, like two hours

615
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: after the show is done, whether he's.

616
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: Gonna be going or not.

617
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Speaker 1: So if you're listening to the audat speed, you're gonna

618
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: hear that, you know you're already gonna know the answer

619
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Speaker 1: to that. But the reason why I've been bullish on

620
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Trey Benson versus the market is simply because again we're

621
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: thinking about the playoffs, like we're we're in this phase

622
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: right now in fantasy football where we have six weeks

623
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: left in the season right if you make it to

624
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: the championship, and so half the season is the fantasy playoffs.

625
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: So you better be like, you know where your team

626
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: stands right now, and so you can make moves and

627
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: act as I've talked about on fifteen transactions over the

628
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: last handful of weeks. You can act to plan ahead

629
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: and be in a good position for when you know,

630
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: those those playoff weeks hit. And with Trey Benson, I

631
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: had him as a bye simply. Last week I had

632
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: him as a bye simply because he could come back soon.

633
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: Number one, Arizona's running backs have not been special since

634
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: he's been down. Like they've they've had this really weird rotation.

635
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: There's been games where like Amaro de Mercado is playing

636
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: a certain early down role because an injury happened. I mean,

637
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: it's just been like absolutely crazy in the way that

638
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: they've deployed these guys. I think hopefully this week we

639
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a clearer way of discerning

640
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: which role these guys are gonna have, where like Bam

641
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: Knight's more of that early down will run some routes,

642
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: and then Michael Carter more of the satellite back for them,

643
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: and then boom done.

644
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: Hopefully we're good to go. Hopefully that's just it.

645
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: But the reason Trey Benson has been so attractive to

646
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: me is because in Week sixteen, the Cardinals are at

647
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: home against the Falcons. The Falcons, I mean they just

648
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: seem like I think I think Brian said it, on perspectives,

649
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: it's like they've just given up, right, Like they're just

650
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: like the defense is not playing as well as it

651
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: did to start the year. The offense is horrible. They've

652
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: they've just mostly given up. And then in week seventeen

653
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: they get Cincinnati. That's a best matchup on paper by

654
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: justin fantasy points allowed. That cames in Cincinnati, but again

655
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: it's a better matchup of the two. So there's a

656
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Speaker 1: very real chance, Like would you be shocked if Trey

657
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Speaker 1: Benson sees sixty five to seventy percent of their running

658
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Speaker 1: back rushes in a ten percent target share rest of

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Speaker 1: season when he's back. I mean, I wouldn't that That's

660
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Speaker 1: what he was trending towards before he got hurt, back

661
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Speaker 1: in like week four whenever that was.

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Speaker 3: So I think there's a chance that.

663
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Speaker 1: We see some good production, some good RB two production

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Speaker 1: from Trey Benson.

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Speaker 3: And that gets me excited.

666
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Speaker 1: And that was why the discord was excited, because I

667
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Speaker 1: had talked up Trey Benson before and in these situations

668
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Speaker 1: like we don't know when Bucky Irving's going to be back,

669
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Speaker 1: we don't know when Trey went, Ima said Trayon Benson.

670
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Speaker 1: We don't know when Trey Benson's going to.

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Speaker 3: Be back, and so nickname yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean, like I I you know,

673
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Speaker 1: you're I have as much information as you guys do

674
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: with injuries. I'm just going by like a game theory play,

675
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: and that game theory play is okay, he's probably gonna

676
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Speaker 1: be back.

677
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: Let's put some.

678
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Speaker 1: Odds to that and then look at this situation, look

679
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Speaker 1: at the schedule, and go from there.

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Speaker 2: Titans legend, Detroit legend, Jermar Jefferson another JJ.

681
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Speaker 1: So he was a he was a prospect favorite by

682
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Speaker 1: many coming out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, in joke. Uh, he didn't practice

684
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Speaker 2: again this week. Yeah, so probably I'm guessing he's not

685
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Speaker 2: going to play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean usually Wait, no, it says that that

687
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: he said no status for Ndjoku or Garrett today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's back.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's bad for bad for Fannin is my

690
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: is my reaction. I honestly just am scared to use

691
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Speaker 1: anyone in the Browns offense this week, including quin Shawn Judkins.

692
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: I mean about schud Or Sanders and super Flex.

693
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Speaker 1: Look, no, never Shador Sanders had the one of the worst.

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Speaker 1: I don't care that he was coming in relief and

695
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: anything can happen. I mean, hopefully like a week of

696
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: practice will help him out, but man, he was horrific

697
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: against Baltimore last week, and so good match up on paper,

698
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Speaker 1: but I think there's a very I mean, what what's

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Speaker 1: his what's his line set for his passing.

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Speaker 3: Yards this week?

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Speaker 1: He's got to be under one fifty, right, like it's

702
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Speaker 1: it's it's got to be not very strong.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, one fifty is really low, but probably

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Speaker 2: probably around that. It's like cam Ward esque. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: just say.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's yeah in that in that I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know if he's cam wardbad.

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Speaker 3: But sorry, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: Oh JJ. Let's just get to the Titans. Poor Titans,

710
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Speaker 2: because Calvin Ridley broke his fibula like one of the

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Speaker 2: first plays back let me catch, and then uh, you

712
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Speaker 2: also have Iomanner struggling with a hamstring injury. It's like

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Speaker 2: they're left with with very very little. Yeah, However, lots

714
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Speaker 2: of people this week have been coming to the defense

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Speaker 2: of cam Ward and maybe that's just some Titans kopium

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Speaker 2: on my part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Titans copium.

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Speaker 2: But I'm seeing one Jordan Tyson or McKay lemon from

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Speaker 2: uh the USC, you know, one of these generational wide

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Speaker 2: receivers coming in to save the day.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: The odds, the odds of I'm just playing probability here, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the odds that cam Ward is him, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to give him the rest of the season obviously to

725
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Speaker 1: improve on his numbers and stuff, but just.

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Speaker 2: He he has just a like it could be like

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Speaker 2: Drake May last year, you know, just think.

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Speaker 1: Better numbers than cam Ward last year he had with

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Speaker 1: just as bad, if not worse of a supporting cast.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not this is not I don't think this

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Speaker 1: is a Drake May situation. What I will say is

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Speaker 1: I never say never with quarterbacks anymore. Like that Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: if you were to ask me this like six or

734
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Speaker 1: seven years ago, I'd probably be like, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's he's done.

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Speaker 3: He's toast. You can you can.

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Speaker 2: Baker, Sam Donald, Jared Golf, all those guys that we can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, like we've seen bounce backs for sure,

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Speaker 1: and I think that it can still happen. I'm mostly

740
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Speaker 1: giving you a hard time, but I also probability wise, uh,

741
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Speaker 1: it's it's not looking that good for camp Ward long term.

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Speaker 3: It's all looking great.

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Speaker 2: Rogers is questionable. What do you think about the Steelers offenses.

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Speaker 2: Since you've already made the fan base man, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I think that the the offense is silly. You know,

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith with his three tight end rotation, with his

747
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Speaker 1: comments about Kenneth Gainwell being just as you know, interchangeable

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Speaker 1: with with Jalen Warren as a third down back, you know, as.

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Speaker 3: A pass catching back.

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Speaker 1: I get what the sentiment behind it, but if you

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Speaker 1: watch Pittsburgh football, Jalen Warren every single week is the

752
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Speaker 1: most electric player on the football field for that Steelers

753
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Speaker 1: offense if you just watch those games. No, obviously Kenneth

754
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Speaker 1: Gamel had a good game last week. It's against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like put too much stock into that,

756
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: but I do think he played himself into another like

757
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Speaker 1: kind of split back field with Jalen Warren a little

758
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Speaker 1: and banged up with his ankle. The problem with the

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Speaker 1: Steelers that Aaron Rodgers doesn't take shots down the field.

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Speaker 1: He still has a really low a dot. They don't

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Speaker 1: have deep threats, they don't have weapons to be able

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Speaker 1: to do that consistently. And DK Metcalf is just an

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: overrated player in general. Like we've seen that now three

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00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: years now, where he's not. You know, you can sit

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Speaker 1: there and say that he's like a good wide receiver,

766
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: that's fine, But year after year after year, dk Metcalf

767
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Speaker 1: is not reaching that twenty five percent plus target share mark.

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Speaker 3: And targets are earned. Target share is earned.

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Speaker 1: You have to get open in order to see a target, right,

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Speaker 1: And if dk Metcalf is covering the twenty percent mark

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Speaker 1: on a team with or twenty two percent mark on

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Speaker 1: a team with Calvin Ridley your wide receiver two, and

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Speaker 1: you know Darnel Washington and Pat Fryarmuth and John new Smith,

774
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: like that's a problem, right, And you're not getting these

775
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Speaker 1: splash plays because Aaron Rodgers doesn't throw the ball.

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Speaker 3: Down the field.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of a messy situation right now. Not

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Speaker 1: a terrible matchup this week though for them. We'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens and we'll see how healthy Rogers is. But

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Speaker 1: I think I think Rogers is gonna play based on

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Speaker 1: you know, how things have trended.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we got to move on. But the running back

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Speaker 2: infirm where we got Jacobs, we Alreay talked about Ramandre

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Speaker 2: touton Warren. This is the season where you get just

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Speaker 2: a bunch of banged up running backs, and you have

786
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Speaker 2: to figure out who's playing, and who's who's worth playing

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Speaker 2: through the injury, and who's worth the stash.

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Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, I mean, look, if Jacobs is out this week,

789
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Speaker 1: he could still go.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if he's just a true.

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Speaker 1: Game time decision and not ruled out today. But if

792
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Speaker 1: you know Jacobs, if he goes, obviously you're playing him.

793
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Speaker 1: If he doesn't, I think Emmanuel Wilson's not a bad play.

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Speaker 1: Ramondre Stevenson already talked about that backfield earlier.

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Speaker 3: Base Shall Tuton. I loved what I saw last week.

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Speaker 1: I think Towton's just like I think he's good, and

797
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: I want to bet on talent, and I.

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Speaker 3: Think that he has.

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Speaker 1: He has a decent receiving profile too. And then Jalen

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Speaker 1: Warren just talked about him. We'll probably see more Kenneth

801
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Speaker 1: Gainwell than we would than we would like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get on to today's data.

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Speaker 3: Today's data.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, did I say Calvin Ridley whenever I talked about

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Speaker 1: the Steelers instead of Calvin Austin.

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Speaker 3: That's my men.

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Speaker 1: If I did just so that no one comes no,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure in that in that two minute span someone on.

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Speaker 2: Spotify, I always gonna comment, and then you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to it, and they're gonna have to underneath it say sorry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they'll they'll delete it after I after I uh,

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Speaker 1: after I.

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Speaker 3: Fixed the air.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So this chart and today's data is every team, every

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Speaker 1: NFL team, and then it looks at their adjusted total

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Speaker 1: attempts allowed and they're adjusted pass rate allowed.

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Speaker 3: Now what this.

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Speaker 1: Chart shows you when it comes to total attempts allowed,

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Speaker 1: it shows you how many plays in rush and pass

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Speaker 1: attempts a team runs against those defenses, above or below expectations.

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Speaker 1: Let's just take the Cincinnati Bengals for instance. Okay, the

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Speaker 1: teams against the Bengals are running six point two more

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Speaker 1: plays per game when it comes to rush attempts and

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Speaker 1: pass temps. So not even plays because I'm not accounting

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Speaker 1: for sacks, right, and so the teams against the Bengals

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Speaker 1: are running about six more plays per game than their

828
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Speaker 1: season long average.

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Speaker 3: Teams against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Are running seven point three more plays per game, which

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Speaker 1: is the highest in all football. And then on the

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Speaker 1: flip side, you get the Chargers. Teams are running six

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Speaker 1: and a half fewer plays against them.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: The one chart that I think is the one column

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Speaker 1: that's more interesting in my opinion, is adjusted pass rate allowed.

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Speaker 3: These are essentially the teams.

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Speaker 1: That are what we would describe as like pass funnels

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Speaker 1: or run funnels. There's a lot of different ways to

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Speaker 1: sort of call, like determine whether a team is that.

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Speaker 1: Some people might look at expected points and say that, oh,

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00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 1: you know, they give up a lot of expected points

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00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: through the air and not much on the ground, or

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Speaker 1: just yards per attempt versus yards per carry, that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. What I'm doing here is this is not

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Speaker 1: adjusted for gamescript because that's important, Like good teams you

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Speaker 1: will have a higher pass rate against like that's an

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Speaker 1: important thing to not adjust for in this kind of circumstance.

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Speaker 1: And so with the justin pass rate allowed, it's just

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Speaker 1: looking at what is the pass rate that this team

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Speaker 1: has faced this year versus what is the average pass

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Speaker 1: rate that those teams have or have had outside of

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Speaker 1: that game throughout the season. Right. So in this case,

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00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: I highlighted some teams like Jacksonville. Teams that face Jacksonville

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00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: they throw the ball, they have a pass rate of

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00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: almost six percent higher than what their season long averages.

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00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: Teams that face New Orleans. On the flip side, this

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00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: is kind of surprising. They run are not that surprising

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00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: because they're a bad team.

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Speaker 3: They run the ball a lot more. Typically the Jets

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00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 3: they run the ball a lot more.

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Speaker 1: The Buccaneers, partially because of personnel but partially because of

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00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: the team. They throw the ball a lot more against

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00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: the Buck years. So you can kind of look at

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Speaker 1: this and say, Okay, you know, my quarterback, like, for instance,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, play against Tampa Bay this week, we should

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Speaker 1: expect a little bit more passing volume for the Rams

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Speaker 1: than what we've seen in recent weeks or at least

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Speaker 1: throughout the season. Based on the fact that they're playing

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and based on what we've seen throughout the season.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. If yeah, if you have Stafford and DeVante Adams,

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Speaker 2: you are you just know that he's going to get

873
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: one of those passes inside the five yard line.

874
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: Oh, he's going to jump off for sure.

875
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is that this data I do

876
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: post on Discord part of the I do like a

877
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: little matchup cheat sheet on Discord that I post every Tuesday.

878
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: So this is this is part of that that cheat sheet.

879
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: There you go, like a little little little nugget, little

880
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: little teaser. Yeah yeah, all right, the late round, main event.

881
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: All right, it's get to players. Do you like more

882
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: of the consensus this week? Starting with Sam Darnold against

883
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans.

884
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't really have a guy. I mean, it's only

885
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: two spots different. I don't I'm pretty choky at quarterback

886
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: this week. For the most part, I am nervous about

887
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: the lack of volume for Darnold. Seattle, though, has a

888
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: twenty six and a half point apply team total Tennesseeason

889
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: average matchup for quarterbacks by justin points allowed. I said

890
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: this on the show, but if Seattle gets three or

891
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, just probability wise, two of them would likely

892
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: be passing. And if you get two touchdowns through the air,

893
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: that's usually a QB like a like a mid to

894
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: high QB two performance.

895
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: Okay, and then we got our boy, low key low

896
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: key a great A great player to draft is what

897
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: you said when you draft from the King's Classic team

898
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: to me be a DM or text message Javonte Williams.

899
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I needed you know. There were there were spots

900
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: where I did get Javonte this year. I have met

901
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: RB twelve this week and Sincesus hasn't bet RB fifteen.

902
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: I clearly like the Cowboys more than consensus based on

903
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: the next guy we're going to talk about. But the

904
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: problem with Javonte he's not getting it done that much

905
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: as a pass catcher over the last few weeks, but

906
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: his route shares haven't changed. I always talk about this,

907
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: how when you look at a box score and you

908
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: see how a running back or wide receiver is performing

909
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: from just raw data perspective, targets you know, receptions yards.

910
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: You then look at target share and see what the.

911
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: Intent is in targeting that player, and then from there

912
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: you look at route share to see if they were

913
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: even running routes. So if a guy has a twenty

914
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: percent route share, that's not very high at running back.

915
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: A fifty percent route share is pretty good at running back,

916
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: and so if he has a consistent route share, that

917
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: means more targets should be funneled his way eventually. And

918
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: that's what we've seen with Javonte Williams. He's had rout

919
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: chairs of fifty five percent, sixty seven percent, and fifty

920
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: three percent over his last three His target shares though

921
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: over that time have been below six percent in every game.

922
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: That should regress a little bit and help his floor

923
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: out a little bit. Not only that, the Cowboys yes

924
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: a tough matchup, Philadelphia's defense is playing well. The Cowboys

925
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: at home this year played four games, and three of

926
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: those four games they've scored forty points. We know that

927
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: their games typically go over, we know that they're typically

928
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: higher scoring outings, and so I am a little bit

929
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: bullish about what we could see from the Dallas offense

930
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: versus what expectation says this week.

931
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: Okay, let's stay on the same team. Someone that had

932
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: a little too much fun last weekend but also gave

933
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: his fantasy managers some fun and some comeback stories George Pickens.

934
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Pickens, I have met wide receiver nine since

935
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: hasn't met wide receiver fourteen. Philadelphia their fifth and adjusted

936
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: target share allowed to wide receivers, which means that when

937
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: teams face Philly, they're targeting their wide receivers at a

938
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: higher rate than they typically do. They've been average against

939
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: perimeter wide receivers this year and fantasy points allowed when

940
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: they've been better against slot receivers.

941
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: They've been pretty good against slot receivers this year.

942
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: Since Week one, Pickens has fallen below nine targets only

943
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: one time, or sorry, only two times. So he's seeing

944
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: very consistent volume in this offense. Even with CD Lamb back,

945
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: he has a twenty six percent target share. So I

946
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: just think, you know, this is a game where they

947
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: could trail to and see more pass attempts, and they're

948
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: not going to be afraid to throw the ball a lot.

949
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: So I just think Pickens is a pretty safe option,

950
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: and clearly I like him more than the more consensusizing.

951
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 2: All right, this one, I'm not sure if your ranking

952
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: will change because it was based on Jackson Dart starting.

953
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: It's THEO Johnson.

954
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeap, And obviously I didn't realize that Dart was officially

955
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: out because it happened right before we started doing the show.

956
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: I do have THEO Johnson here.

957
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: If it were Dart, I would feel a little bit

958
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: better about his target share going up, but he did

959
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: still have an eighty four percent route share last week.

960
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's clearly their tight end one. It's mostly

961
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: a mid matchup. We should see a little bit more

962
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: passing volume from the Giants, but we'll see. I mean,

963
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: I would feel better about THEO Johnson if Jackson Dart

964
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: were playing.

965
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get on to the bold predictions. And I

966
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: just want to highlight this just so we can clarify

967
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: that they will not be But Midler says, even though

968
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: you don't advise any using your takes for gambling, up

969
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: parlayed all of your bold predictions last week and it hit.

970
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: Does this mean it's time for JJ's gambling pick segment?

971
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: Now, I'm never going to be a betting talt. It's

972
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. You guys are free to use whatever

973
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: information you want to use to to bet or do

974
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: whatever you want. You know, go to DraftKings and do

975
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: your thing. And I still, you know, I do it

976
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: because it's fun and entertaining. But I'm not looking at

977
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: this from a you know, book perspective and a line perspective.

978
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: I am simply saying this is how I feel about

979
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: these players, and you can, you know, you can use

980
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: it or not use it, do whatever you wish.

981
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, last week was Jamo what was it, Jmo

982
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: top Jamo top.

983
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: Twelve and Trey Tucker top twenty.

984
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so both both of those ended up happening.

985
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And both those guys score touchdowns. Yeah, in primetime segments.

986
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: One of those touchdowns buried me in a league by trying.

987
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: Out because it's like, yes, the bold prediction hit and

988
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: you're like, I just lost.

989
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, very frustrated.

990
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: It's tough scenes. Michael Wilson does it again, that's your

991
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: first bowld prediction.

992
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

993
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: And when I say does it again, I don't mean

994
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna have eighteen targets.

995
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: I just mean that I think. I think it's another

996
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: big game for Michael Wilson.

997
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: Jacksonville has been way worse at defending perimeter receivers than

998
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: slot receivers this year. They've been bad against tight ends though,

999
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: So I do think it's a big Trey McBride week.

1000
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: But when you look at this, you know you can

1001
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: go back to that today's data and see that Jacksonville

1002
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: is a team that is a pass funnel, if you will.

1003
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: Teams are throwing the ball a lot more against them,

1004
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: and they'll throw the ball a lot more to the

1005
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: outside and those outside receivers thirty two percent target chare

1006
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: for Michael Wilson last week. Like if it weren't a

1007
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: good spot for Michael Wilson, I wouldn't be bullish on

1008
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, but no, Marvin Harrison Junior. We saw that

1009
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: thirty two percent target chair. I don't see why it

1010
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: can't be a twenty five percent target share again this week.

1011
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: And if that happens, I could see a scenario where

1012
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: he's like eight for ninety in a touchdown or something

1013
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: like that. So when I say he does it again,

1014
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean that we could see very very good production

1015
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: from Michael Wilson once again.

1016
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, way to hedge your Betspice. Yeah, I mean that's

1017
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: fourteen for one hundred and eighty five or whatever he did.

1018
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: Look if he's if he's eight for not what would

1019
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: I say eight for ninety Yeah, eight for ninety and one.

1020
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that. I mean that that would definitely get

1021
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 2: there over twenty.

1022
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: That's my bold prediction. He goes eight for ninety and

1023
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: one over.

1024
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Twenty PPR points. That's JJ's prediction. I will say on

1025
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: last week the look Ahead Waiver Wire, Wilson was on there,

1026
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: Brissette was on there, a few other guys on there,

1027
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: so Luther Burdlee, Yes, hopefully people listen there and they

1028
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: didn't have to.

1029
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: Sean Tucker I think was on there.

1030
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 2: He spinned out Jeah Sean Tucker was on there. Yeah, Okay,

1031
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 2: you've got Rushie Rice overall wide receiver one.

1032
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say Rice is a wider is the

1033
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver one this week? The Chiefs need to get

1034
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: him going a little bit more. He only had a

1035
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: twenty percent target here last week. There's a bounce back

1036
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: spot for this offense. He plays about half of his

1037
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: snaps out of the slot. The Colts are well below

1038
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: average at stopping slot receivers this year. It's also the

1039
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: third best matchup for wide receivers by justin points allowed.

1040
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: So I think the Chiefs could just get it done

1041
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: this week. It's a pretty good matchup. Uh and Rashi Rice.

1042
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 3: Would be the one who benefits most.

1043
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 2: All right, So let's get to the look ahead wherever wire.

1044
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: You've got to a bunch of people on here. JJ.

1045
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I even put Look, I'm I'm growing too.

1046
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: I even put their their percent roster numbers right now,

1047
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: like I'm getting giving people more vision.

1048
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: I even put shamr DK on this list.

1049
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: That's why I thought you were Yeah, uh, CJ. Stroud.

1050
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: They get Indianapolis next week, and he is thirty seven

1051
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: percent rostered, so he would be like sort of the

1052
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: go to kind of streamer.

1053
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 3: There's not very obvious ones at this point.

1054
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: Uh, make sure you're looking at your handcuffs right some

1055
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: of those guys would include, like, I mean, these are

1056
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of like handcuff pluses right now where you get

1057
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: Sean Tucker. Uh, who's just getting more work. Although I'm

1058
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: still a little bit nervous about his matchup this week,

1059
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: base Shall Tutin who you know, We don't know that.

1060
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming Travis Oru Travis Etn is gonna go,

1061
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: but he did pop up yesterday with a shoulder injury.

1062
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: Bam Knight.

1063
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: I think is gonna have one line ride this week,

1064
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: So you could add him right now. You know, maybe

1065
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: you don't need to stash him for for next week,

1066
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: but if you need a player, Chris.

1067
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 3: Rodriguez, they're on by right now.

1068
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: But he's getting more work as the lead back in

1069
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: that backfield, a wide receiver, Chris Godwin.

1070
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: He's at fifty three percent. Sounds like he's going to

1071
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: go this week. He'll be back.

1072
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: Keisham Boodie, great matchup against Cincinnati. I love him as

1073
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: a sleeper thirty six percent roster. Jayden Higgins.

1074
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: We saw last night he's getting more and more involved

1075
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: in the offense. Luther Burden.

1076
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: I mean speaking of getting more and more involved in

1077
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: the offense, I mean he's got by far the best

1078
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: per route run numbers on that team. I mean, I

1079
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: just think Luther Burden could be cash.

1080
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: It's like they can't keep ignoring him.

1081
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: You can't, Yeah, right, I mean he is he is good,

1082
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: like Luther Burden's good, and he am I biased a

1083
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 3: little bit because his.

1084
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: App model loved it maybe maybe, but I think he's

1085
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 1: also really good and we're seeing that. Chim Ray DK,

1086
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: another player of this app model, didn't really mind. He uh,

1087
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: he's ten percent roster right now. You got Calvin out

1088
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: for the year, Elik Iamanners banged up, ad Ni Mitchell

1089
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: and Mason Taylor. I'm throwing those guys out there because

1090
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: what if Tyrod Taylor just looks a lot better and

1091
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: more competent throwing the ball than Justin Fields did. And

1092
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: I think ad Night Mitchell would have the highest ceiling

1093
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: of the wide receivers that in that room. Darren Waller

1094
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: needs to be rostered in more than twenty percent of leagues.

1095
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: I think he could easily be back next week. They

1096
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: have a really good schedule down the stretch. I think

1097
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: they played like what Pittsburgh and Cincinnati at one point.

1098
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Those are two really good tight end matchups. And he

1099
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: was doing well before he got hurt earlier this year.

1100
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: So keep an eye on Darren Waller. Bretton Strange could

1101
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 1: be back this week. I don't have the official word

1102
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: on that, but he was, you know, a reasonable player,

1103
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: tight end streamer in stuch for Jacksonville. And then Terrence Ferguson,

1104
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: another guy the Zap Model really loved. Ferguson is rostered

1105
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: in zero percent of leagues, so less than one percent

1106
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: of leagues right now. He with Tyler Higbee out, I'm

1107
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: just I'm just saying. I know they have Davis Allen

1108
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: and Kolby Parkinson and and obviously Terrence Ferguson, and they'll

1109
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: run a lot of but they're running a lot more

1110
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: thirteen personnel, and of those three, Ferguson's the one that

1111
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: can really get vertical and do a lot more down

1112
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: the field. And honestly, they give them, you know, from

1113
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: like a football perspective, give them almost like an eleven personnel.

1114
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: Look in a way because he can.

1115
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: He's he's like more of that pass catching type player,

1116
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: right that like not I'm not going to say he's

1117
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: a wide receiver because he's not. But you can get

1118
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: sort of those like eleven personnel looks but with more

1119
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: tight ends on the field, and that's a really big

1120
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: advantage for that Rams offense. So maybe they get creative

1121
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: and more creative with Terrence Ferguson down the stretch. So

1122
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: I think he's an interesting stash in deeper leagues. And

1123
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: then at defense, the Chargers get the Raiders next week.

1124
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: They're forty two percent rostered. The Bucks get the Cardinals,

1125
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: they're twenty two percent. The Bucks have a really good

1126
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: rest of season schedule after this week, like I've been saying,

1127
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: so you could honestly stash the Bucks and use them

1128
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: almost every week. And then the Dolphins get the Saints.

1129
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: The Dolphins their defense playing a little bit better, and

1130
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: they're coming off of by So that's more so the

1131
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: reason why I would lean that way as like a

1132
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: really you know, lower rostered option at defense.

1133
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I how owned is the forty nine ers defense?

1134
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 3: Well, because they get Carol or no, they get Carolina

1135
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: this week.

1136
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: They get they get Cleveland next week.

1137
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, forty nine I think that.

1138
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: I think though, because they're playing uh Carolina this week,

1139
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: that they had yeah decent.

1140
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: I picked them up last week. I think they might

1141
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: have even been there.

1142
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: No, there are twenty they're at twenty two percent, so

1143
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: we could add let's add San Francisco to this list.

1144
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 3: What the forty nine ers because they get the Browns

1145
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: next week?

1146
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: My first look ahead waiver wire ad that that I've

1147
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: contributed to.

1148
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I thought that they were rostered and

1149
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: more so we'll say versus Brown's.

1150
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: Twenty There we go growing up, all right, Yeah, there's

1151
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: some of these options. Again, it's these running backs. Someone

1152
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 2: on this list JJ is gonna win someone in a league.

1153
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'm do you know how exciting it makes,

1154
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: how good it makes me feel that we're in week

1155
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: twelve and we're talking look ahead waivers and we're throwing

1156
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: out Sean Tucker, base Shall Tutan and Luther Burden.

1157
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 3: Those are like, those are like my trinity of.

1158
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: Players, like guys that I just like like as as players, right,

1159
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: and so it's it's exciting, Like I get excited whenever

1160
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: players that I prospected and saw them through, you know,

1161
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: that journey of getting drafted, and now we're seeing them

1162
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: on the football field at the NFL level and they're

1163
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: showing out more and doing more.

1164
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: It's exciting. It's a really fun time.

1165
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the quad box. We are

1166
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: looking at four games that we are looking forward to

1167
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: watching this week.

1168
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: Okay, and you're going first.

1169
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: I will go first, and I will go the obvious

1170
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: of Colts and Chiefs, like must.

1171
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: Be obvious to you.

1172
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's the obvious to me. I

1173
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: have another one that's more obvious.

1174
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: If the Colts beat the Chiefs, the Chiefs are likely

1175
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 2: like out of the playoffs.

1176
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, okay from a real football Okay, all right,

1177
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: well i'll give you that Colts Chiefs.

1178
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: You just mentioned Rashie Rice wide receiver one, and you

1179
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 2: don't want to watch him go off in this game. Okay?

1180
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: You got Colts Chiefs. I got Bucks Rams. But there's

1181
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: one more than I could have done.

1182
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: Colts at Chiefs. You got Bucks versus Rams. Okay, that's

1183
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: a Sunday night game. So you got the primetime game there,

1184
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 2: m you'll probably you probably want Steelers and Bears.

1185
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 3: Love that you have Central time in here seven twelve.

1186
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: You know what it you know what it was as

1187
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: I was caught last week, I there was an issue

1188
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: with the totals not being right. Yeah, so I just

1189
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: copied my ESBN page to make sure that it was correct. Sure,

1190
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: and it was in central time. Yeah, I got you

1191
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: a noon kickoff is amazing, all right? That being said,

1192
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: I will go with Eagles and Cowboys.

1193
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that was the other one. And

1194
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 3: then now we're in this position where like there's.

1195
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: Not I'll go.

1196
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 3: For the last one. I'm gonna go.

1197
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: Because of the fantasy implications. Do you know what I'm

1198
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: gonna go here, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Patriots Bengals.

1199
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: I almost joked that you were gonna choose this game

1200
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: as a joke.

1201
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 3: Why is a joke?

1202
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: Because it like it's kind of like a gross kind

1203
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: of like a gross game. But I do I do

1204
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: think that.

1205
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's got a fifty one and a half total.

1206
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: I think Flacco's gonna play though, yeah he might.

1207
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I could be very wrong about the Burrow stuff.

1208
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 2: But this is from rap sheet saying, judging from the

1209
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: comments from the Bengals coach Zach Taylor and the caution

1210
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 2: that he expressed. It feels like the pendulum has swung

1211
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: back to Joe Flacco. So that's just rap sheet. That's

1212
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: basically just rap sheets opinion.

1213
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: Of his his ViBe's based take.

1214
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: What he what he heard, all right, and Io Manners

1215
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: officially out this week. I just got that notification.

1216
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that makes Tim Riy DK

1217
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: a sort of a sleeper, but also a guy that

1218
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: you want to have.

1219
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: Stashed Patriots in in Bengals. That's there used to there

1220
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: were some good like Patriots Bengals games back in the day.

1221
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: Look, I think that the the Corey Dillon Bowl will

1222
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: be a good will be a good a good game.

1223
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well that will do it for the show. Again,

1224
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: we need people to subscribe to the Late Round Fantasy

1225
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: Football channel, and if you do that, it will help

1226
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 2: us get to ten k subs.

1227
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: When we get to ten k, let's do a giveaway.

1228
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: And once we get to ten k, we'll get a

1229
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: random subscribe giveaway. Yeah, we'll give an don't say that

1230
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: stuff on air when I'm you're involved. Now, we'll do

1231
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: some swag giveaway.

1232
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: By the way, we have a shop.

1233
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: If you go to late round dot com slash shop

1234
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: or just click shop at the top of the of

1235
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: late round.

1236
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: Dot coms hats as well.

1237
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get East Coast dads stuff, not hats or

1238
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: their hats or shirts. Yeah, I think there a hat?

1239
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: Is there not a hat?

1240
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: And then uh no, I just have a I have

1241
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: a late round hat that doesn't fit my head because

1242
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: my head is giant. So so yeah, I would uh

1243
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: check out the shop because we got cool shirts and

1244
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: hoodies and I've tested all of the shirts out and

1245
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: Kitchen doesn't like it because I like thicker shirts.

1246
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kitchen's like a thin shirt. Guy like thick shirts.

1247
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm a soft shirt.

1248
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: This is a thick it's soft. Don't say it's not soft.

1249
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: It's soft, is it? What do you mean it's not this?

1250
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: This is like a viry like. I mean, this is

1251
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: probably the nicest T shirt I own, but it is

1252
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: it is soft, like a heavy soft You like that

1253
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: the heavy T shirts? Like heavy T shirts, Yeah, and

1254
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't call them soft.

1255
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: I mean all T shirts are soft.

1256
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: You're getting into technicalities. Yeah, No, it's not made of plastic.

1257
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: It's made of of cotton. It's just like heavy cotton.

1258
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's not the soft.

1259
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: I wear Dicky's teas all the time because they're a

1260
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: little bit heavier, they're thicker. You know, those are probably

1261
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 3: like you're not You're not shirtless all the time.

1262
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Uh people, I just wanted to clarify.

1263
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: I was joking about the ten thousand dollars. If we

1264
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: ever get to the point where we give away ten

1265
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on a giveaway, you will you will have

1266
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: known that we have made it. You know, it's like

1267
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: Rogan style.

1268
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Rogan doesn't even do that. You're right, yeah, yeah,

1269
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: we're not giving up. We're not giving away time.

1270
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: They listed Apple listed out their top podcast and we

1271
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: were not one of them. If we ever get on

1272
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: on the like.

1273
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, we'll say that if we if the lay

1274
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: Round podcast is ever in like the top on one

1275
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: of Apple's releases, I'll give away ten thousand dollars. Deal deal,

1276
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: not fantasy podcast, overall podcasts on Earth.

1277
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 3: If we're top fifty, ever, I'll give away. Sure, I'll

1278
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 3: give away.

1279
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to be a top fifty.

1280
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: Can't be like a thousand dollars. I'll give you twenty

1281
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 3: thousand dollars if that appens.

1282
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can't be like you might also like if

1283
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: you see it on you know.

1284
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying like like a like a a legit

1285
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: publication putting together the top podcast. If we make that,

1286
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: then then yes I'll give I'll give twenty grand away.

1287
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: Okay, we're being silly. This is listen. You're getting a

1288
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: little bit of a taste of what happens also in

1289
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: the in the discord. So come hang out with us

1290
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: if you want those Treveon Benson moments with us, or

1291
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: or last night when we're all hoping for a Woody

1292
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: Marks touchdown. Whenever, whenever one of the late round staples scores,

1293
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: it's a fun time to be in there, even if

1294
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: you don't have them on your on your team. So

1295
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: uh JJ any final thoughts.

1296
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever a non late round guy scores, you know,

1297
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: like a like a Zay Flowers or something.

1298
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 3: Oh wait, he doesn't score touchdowns? Okay, Oh just kidding, just.

1299
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Speaker 2: Seeing, just kidding, guys, No, I think you just guaranteed

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Speaker 2: him to touchdown.

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Speaker 3: So I had look, look, I had him as a

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Speaker 3: fade shore.

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Speaker 1: But then I had him as a bye whenever Lamar

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Speaker 1: was coming back, and that's not looking good. So I

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Speaker 1: do think I think better days are ahead for Zay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thanks everyone for joining us, and uh

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Speaker 2: again we have the mail Bag today. We also have

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Speaker 2: the Perspectives episode with Brian Drake. It's a good episode

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Speaker 2: to get some Travion talk on there. I like the

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Speaker 2: the Syracuse talk to those fun he is. He is

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Speaker 2: such as a media guy.

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Speaker 3: So everything Syracuse is like communications and radio media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So appreciate everyone for tuning in and uh

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Speaker 2: we love you guys, and we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Here on the Late Round Fantasy Football show, A