WEBVTT - He Has Slaves

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and Jettie and

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<v Speaker 2>he Armstrong and Jetty.

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<v Speaker 3>The CDC is warning of a deadly E Coli outbreak

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<v Speaker 3>linked to the McDonald's quarter pounder. At least forty nine

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<v Speaker 3>people in ten states have gotten sick between September twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seventh and October eleventh. McDonald's removing the sandwich from the

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<v Speaker 3>menu in affected areas, saying in a statement a subset

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<v Speaker 3>of illnesses may be linked to slivered onions used in

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<v Speaker 3>the quarter pounder and sourced by a single supplier that

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<v Speaker 3>serves three distribution centers.

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<v Speaker 4>I said to my son, how do I always order

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<v Speaker 4>the quarter pounder? He said, with no onions. We high five,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm in the clear. I had texted my brother immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a fan of the fast food. I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I've had a quarter pounder with cheese today. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't had one since Friday, so everything, Thanks God,

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<v Speaker 4>God of a funny response. Really, I haven't had one

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<v Speaker 4>in several days, so I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the funky onions going.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's quite a deal for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>are a lot, But I've heard four or five different

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<v Speaker 4>people say kind of a coleincidence at McDonald's has a

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's at McDonald's, and then they claim this, So I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think they're related at all. Pretty big deal for

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<v Speaker 4>a major corporation like McDonald's, though, you got two large

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<v Speaker 4>a number of people that ended up in the hospital

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<v Speaker 4>and one person died.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's a horrifying pr blow, not to mention,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the loss of life.

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<v Speaker 4>Plus I love a quarter pounder with cheese, no onions.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good burger. Well, that's a burger burger. Using

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<v Speaker 4>my finger quotes burger coming up. The latest claims that

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<v Speaker 4>Trump is Hitler from his former chief of staff. This

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<v Speaker 4>is I think I can attempt at an October surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because they've had this information for years and

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<v Speaker 4>here's a new round of it coming out today and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll get to that on the way, so stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it may be October. Well there you go. That settles.

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<v Speaker 2>It may be October. But I've been hearing T equals

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<v Speaker 2>H for a long time. Anyway, more analysis to come

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<v Speaker 2>in real life. People bringing this up to me a

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<v Speaker 2>lot the whole Menendez Brothers. You got the Netflix series,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got the documentary, and you got the actual

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<v Speaker 2>court case. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Renewed and intense push to possibly get two of the

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<v Speaker 5>nation's most infamous convicted killers out of prison. Eric and

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<v Speaker 5>Lyle Menendez shot and killed their parents at their Beverly

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<v Speaker 5>Hills home in nineteen eighty nine. They were found guilty

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<v Speaker 5>of first degree murder in nineteen ninety six, but now

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five years later, some of their family members and

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<v Speaker 5>celebrity turned criminal justice for former advocate Kim Kardashian and

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<v Speaker 5>others say that the Menanda's brother's life sentences should be

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<v Speaker 5>re examined.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>A letter written months before the nineth teen eighty nine

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<v Speaker 5>murders has become a crucial new piece of the brother's

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<v Speaker 5>new fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So before you want to hear from George Gascon,

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<v Speaker 4>before you explain what you think is going on here

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<v Speaker 4>or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Unholy loved child of Kermit the Frog and

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<v Speaker 2>Count Dracula. Yeah, go ahead, twenty one, Michael, I'm evaluating.

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<v Speaker 6>There's actually two different camps.

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<v Speaker 2>In my office.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a group of people, including some that were

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<v Speaker 6>involving the original trial that are adamant that they should

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<v Speaker 6>spend the rest of their life in prison and that

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<v Speaker 6>they were not molested. I have other people in the

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<v Speaker 6>office that believe actually that they probably were molested and

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<v Speaker 6>that they deserve to have some relief. I planned to

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<v Speaker 6>have a decision by the end of this week, which

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<v Speaker 6>is what I promised. We had a court time late

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<v Speaker 6>November on the Avias, but given the public attention to

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<v Speaker 6>this case, I've decided to try to come up with

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<v Speaker 6>a decision earlier than that, and I will.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a radical Marxist scumback desperately trying to hold

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<v Speaker 2>onto his job, George Giscone, who's bent on overwhelming the

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<v Speaker 2>legal system to bring it down and Russia in a

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<v Speaker 2>Marxist utopia. He believes in turning scumbags loose any chance

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<v Speaker 2>he gets.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and yeah, he's let all kinds of criminals get

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<v Speaker 4>away with being criminals because of his weird ideology. So

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<v Speaker 4>you got to factor that into the whole Menandaz thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But so, the Menendez brothers shotgunned their parents to death,

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<v Speaker 4>were found guilty, been in prison a very very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>There's claims with this Netflix series and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>different stuff that there's new information that they were so

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<v Speaker 4>violently sexually abused by specifically their dad, that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you would have done the same thing grown up in

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<v Speaker 4>that household. There's also information, Katie, you actually watched the series.

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<v Speaker 4>I was talking to somebody about this the other day,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'd forgotten this a fair amount of information that

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<v Speaker 4>they had been researching this sort of thing before they

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<v Speaker 4>killed their parents, about you know, how you justify these

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<v Speaker 4>sorts of murders, and going to the library and looking

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<v Speaker 4>up that's sort of thing, and looking into other cases

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<v Speaker 4>where people had made these claims for sure premeditated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and their defense was premeditated. And just the legal

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<v Speaker 2>doctrine then is now, is that you can't kill somebody

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<v Speaker 2>in vengeance for abuse. You can to protect your own life. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>between then and now, harshness of sentencing thoughts on that

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<v Speaker 2>topic have changed. They may have gotten a somewhat lighter

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<v Speaker 2>sentence if indeed the sexual abuse had been agreed upon

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<v Speaker 2>by the court. Documentary. I'm a little stipulated.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a little soft on the old vengeance thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta admit, I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Some horrible scumbagger abuses you, and you finally decide that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>As a juror. Yeah, a lot of people feel that way,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's very brave of you to say that out loud. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I know, I know what you mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's true. Of those things are true, So it's conceivable

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<v Speaker 2>you could find a judge who would soften the sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, as we mentioned a week or

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<v Speaker 2>two ago, when this stuff was first burbling up, they

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<v Speaker 2>had a session with psychiatrist in which they had every

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to talk about sexual abuse, and it just they

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<v Speaker 2>never ever brought it up. And in the original trial,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the appeal judge, the evidence of that was

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<v Speaker 2>so thin it wasn't even worth discussing on a factual basis.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't even going to take it on, or the

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<v Speaker 2>panel of judges wasn't even going to take it on.

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<v Speaker 2>So documentaries and the guy who did the documentary, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what he does. Take gruesome crimes and high profile

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and take a new look at the facts and

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<v Speaker 2>really emphasize this fact and dramatize it and drag people in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't claim to have the be all and

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<v Speaker 2>end all definitive opinion on this, but if he went

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<v Speaker 2>into this project, and he put out a product that said,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, they're guilty as hell. They should be in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't be a tenth as compelling is the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of misplaced justice and these handsome boys are actually victims

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<v Speaker 2>and blah blah blah. So you emphasize the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>over the other in order to get that vibe going.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he does for a living.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tough because if I heard some descriptions of what

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<v Speaker 4>they claim their dad was doing to him, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty over the top horrific from the Netflix series, If

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<v Speaker 4>that happened to you as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you'd react.

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<v Speaker 4>You might not tell somebody when you're given the opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>to tell them, You just might not. That might be

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<v Speaker 4>so lotched up in your mind as a secret that

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<v Speaker 4>you can't deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, that's right. It's like people who can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that a woman raped by Harvey Weinstein couldn't say

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<v Speaker 2>anything or bring it to the police. I don't believe her, now,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. You don't get it. You haven't heard, read,

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<v Speaker 2>learned enough about victims, especially that sort of crime, and

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<v Speaker 2>in their minds and their hearts and the rest of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, some of the stuff that's alleged is

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote extreme, but any brand of child rape to me,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you got coming, you got it coming now. But

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted to go into all the facts of the

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<v Speaker 2>trial to put her out of her misery.

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<v Speaker 4>They said, that's pretty hard to justify.

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<v Speaker 2>And when she survived the initial several shootings, they went out,

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<v Speaker 2>got more ammunition from the garage and everything he was reloaded.

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<v Speaker 2>The shotgun came in and point blanked her.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I'd forgotten that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the AMMO was in the back of their car.

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<v Speaker 7>And at one point the investigators let I forget which

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<v Speaker 7>one of the brothers go out and actually take the

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<v Speaker 7>bag that had THEMO and the AMMO and the empty

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<v Speaker 7>shells out of the car because he said he needed

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<v Speaker 7>to get his tennis stuff, which was a big part

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<v Speaker 7>of blowing the evidence.

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<v Speaker 4>So if Gash go and lets them out, does he

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<v Speaker 4>have the power to let him out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's got to find a judge who like refers

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<v Speaker 2>it back to the prosecution or and I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the exact terminology, but the judge said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's definitely reason to have a retrial and then guests

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<v Speaker 2>go and says, yeah, the people of California choose not

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<v Speaker 2>to retry them. That's when he would have a roll.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm wrong, please hit us with an email mail

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<v Speaker 2>bag at Armstrong and Getty. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine the celebrity interview get that would be

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<v Speaker 4>if they both get out?

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<v Speaker 6>Woo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that would be a it would be big. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a twist.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be darned. Well, do we want to roll on?

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<v Speaker 4>We were going to roll on with more avern behavior,

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<v Speaker 4>but I feel like that's an awful lot for one segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's just if you haven't heard the story. The

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<v Speaker 2>Abercrombie and Fitch CEO, who's behind all those like sexualized,

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<v Speaker 2>like disturbingly young model advertising campaigns. He was a hardcore

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<v Speaker 2>core boy rapist and torturer and a monster, just a perverse,

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<v Speaker 2>ditty styled rapist monster. I used to mock.

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<v Speaker 4>Every single year the Abercrombie and Fitch catalog would come out,

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<v Speaker 4>and this was for decades, starting way back when I

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<v Speaker 4>was a music disc jockey. The catalog would come out

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<v Speaker 4>and there'd be a controversy. Some people say the pictures

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<v Speaker 4>are too sexualized and too young, and I would and

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<v Speaker 4>I always said, they're just jerking you around. They do

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<v Speaker 4>some stuff that's kind of a risque. So they get

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<v Speaker 4>all this media coverage and the main theme being Hey, everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>the new Abercrombie and Fitch catalog's out. It was a

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<v Speaker 4>whole bunch of free publicity. Turns out the guy is

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<v Speaker 4>actually a provo. I think, yeah, both are true, Both

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<v Speaker 4>are true, but he wasn't just manipulating the media. It's

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<v Speaker 4>actually like really bad, like Ditty.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad, h Harvey Weinstein bad, Jeffrey Epstein bad. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think the theme here is that if you are powerful

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<v Speaker 2>and you are rich, people will, for fear or favor,

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<v Speaker 2>remain silent about your horrors. That's just the way people are.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to bring anybody down or freak anybody out,

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<v Speaker 2>but you've got to understand that's the way human beings behave.

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<v Speaker 2>In a lot of cases, they will keep their mouths shut,

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<v Speaker 2>whether to profit from it or out of fear of

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<v Speaker 2>the powerful person. No matter what horrors they witness or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe embarrassment. They don't want their lives to get worse.

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<v Speaker 4>They feel like their lives to get worse rather than

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<v Speaker 4>better if they move forward with trying to bring this

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<v Speaker 4>person down.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in every victimizer like this will say to their victims,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know the circumstances are right, if you breathe

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<v Speaker 2>a word of this, I will ruin you. I can.

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<v Speaker 4>I can perfectly understand why you'd take a pass, even

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<v Speaker 4>if you were like convinced that if I come forward,

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<v Speaker 4>this person's going to go to jail. You just think

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<v Speaker 4>I want this to be behind me. I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to think about it again in my life. I can

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<v Speaker 4>see how you do that. But yeah, we've got the

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<v Speaker 4>there's no arguing with you. The evidence is in between

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<v Speaker 4>Harvey Weinstein, P. Diddy and this guy from aber Cromme

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<v Speaker 4>and Fitch. You can get away with it for a

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<v Speaker 4>really long time. Within each case, there's got to be

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds of people that know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly R.

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly, and you still keep doing it. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just it's amazing, but it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't like human beings. It's a vicious species.

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<v Speaker 4>We're thirteen days out from presidential election. Have we had

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<v Speaker 4>an October surprise drop? Looks like maybe we have, we

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<v Speaker 4>can discuss the whole hitler things stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 8>If the early vote numbers stay the way they are,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's a big if, we'll almost certainly know before

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<v Speaker 8>election day who's going to win the election. We're going

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<v Speaker 8>to talk a lot about that, the reasons why Democrats

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<v Speaker 8>might be underperforming, the prospect that they'll recover. But again,

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<v Speaker 8>make no mistake, if these numbers hold up states where

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<v Speaker 8>we can understand even partially what the data is like,

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<v Speaker 8>we'll know that Donald Trump's going to be present.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Mark Alpern on his Zoom call last night, where

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<v Speaker 4>he recounts what he the information he gets every day

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<v Speaker 4>from inside sources in the campaigns Republican and Democrat. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he works very very hard to be nonpartisan. And

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<v Speaker 4>he says the early voting numbers are so overwhelmingly in

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<v Speaker 4>the direction of Trump that if they hold up, and

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<v Speaker 4>they might not. He made the point over and over again,

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<v Speaker 4>they might not. Maybe for some reason Republicans get their

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<v Speaker 4>early voting in earlier than Democrats do or something you

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<v Speaker 4>never know. But if they hold up the way they

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<v Speaker 4>are as percentages, Trump is going to win quite easily,

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<v Speaker 4>and we will know on election day which is a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty big story, right there. A couple other things that

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<v Speaker 4>he had I thought were interesting. He said, He's been

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<v Speaker 4>pitched a story that, if true, would end Trump's campaign. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard for me to even make up what that

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<v Speaker 4>could possibly be, given the fact Trump's been convicted of

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<v Speaker 4>something near rape.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, all, you know, all kinds of different things

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<v Speaker 2>quote patively liable, must must.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, fine, But I mean, what could it possibly be?

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<v Speaker 4>I can't even imagine? He didn't say, And he said

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<v Speaker 4>it's been pitched to a number of news outlets, not

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<v Speaker 4>just him, and so my guess would be it's so

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<v Speaker 4>over the top and unverifiable that nobody's run.

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<v Speaker 2>With it yet.

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<v Speaker 4>But he has slaves currently, he'd have to currently have slaves.

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<v Speaker 2>In Trump Tower. That's not to move the needle at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, seriously, I can't imagine he's got a

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<v Speaker 4>gimp in the basement.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know what it could be. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think one would be enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, with the point being made that it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a very ugly last couple of weeks, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think we know how this is starting, so uh. He

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned last night in the Zoom call that the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>was about to drop a big story, okay, and they

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<v Speaker 4>did so. Jeffrey Goldberg, who runs The Atlantic, released the

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<v Speaker 4>audio of some interviews with John Kelly. John Kelly was

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<v Speaker 4>the longest serving chief of staff under Donald Trump. Four

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<v Speaker 4>star general, highly respected guy, and he did an interview

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<v Speaker 4>with The Atlantic recounting some stuff that we've mostly heard before.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's a little bit of that here than ones.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, the Hitler did some good things too, and

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<v Speaker 9>of course, if you know history, again, I think he's

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<v Speaker 9>lacking in that. But if you know what his you know,

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<v Speaker 9>Hitler was all about, uh, you'd be pretty hard to

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<v Speaker 9>make an argument that you did anything good.

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<v Speaker 4>So that is being portrayed in all lefty and mainstream

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<v Speaker 4>news media as Trump at being caught admiring Hitler with

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<v Speaker 4>all respect. And I mean that in reality, not just

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<v Speaker 4>the phrase, but in all reality. To John Kelly, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't agree with that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea. You disagree vehemently.

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<v Speaker 4>If you know history, there's no way you could possibly

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<v Speaker 4>say Hitler did anything well or good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly the wrong lesson. I have spent my entire

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<v Speaker 2>life trying to comprehend the rise and fall of the

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<v Speaker 2>Third Reich and a couple other regimes, because I am so.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it so incredibly compelling, the question of how

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<v Speaker 2>does a educated, modern democratic society give way to a

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<v Speaker 2>dictatorial regime? And then you know what happens from there?

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<v Speaker 2>And and one of the primary parts of that answer,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to answer it honestly, is that Hitler

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<v Speaker 2>did indeed bring a lot of good things to Germany

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<v Speaker 2>and and and you know, I don't have time to

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<v Speaker 2>even get into this, but we deny that because you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important enough to it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the story of the day for mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it to me. It's like if you got to go,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like denying. Sometimes a con man can be charming. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the key thing you have to understand. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they do, is their arming.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, are people's deep enough, smart enough to understand the

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<v Speaker 4>nuance of this. I don't even think it's that much nuance,

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, stay tuned a lot more on the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 9>He caught its more than ones that you know, the

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<v Speaker 9>Hitler did some good things too, And of course, if

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<v Speaker 9>you know history, again, I think he's lacking in mat if.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what his you know Hitler was all about.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh it, You would be pretty hard to make an

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<v Speaker 9>argument that she did anything good.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the clips released by the Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg,

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<v Speaker 4>who talked to Trump's former chief of staff, four star

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<v Speaker 4>General John Kelly, And that's a I think an attempt

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<v Speaker 4>at an October surprise today is that they're going heavy

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<v Speaker 4>with it on on ah. Well, a lot of mainstream

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<v Speaker 4>media and certainly are anti Trump channels. Hitler praised by Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of thing, and Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing interviews everywhere. I just brought up the Atlantic piece.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeffrey Goldberger reports Trump's obsession with dictators and disdain for

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<v Speaker 4>the American military is deepening. And that particular quote that

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<v Speaker 4>they put out there that I heard first thing when

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<v Speaker 4>I got up this morning, about if you know anything

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<v Speaker 4>about history, how can you be saying Hitler did some

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<v Speaker 4>good things?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? So I've got a number of thoughts on the topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Number One, I get that Trump does have quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>dictatorial impulses. I think it's mostly that he was a

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<v Speaker 2>a CEO, and every CEO gets into politics, it learns

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<v Speaker 2>quickly that I can't just bark out orders and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>obeys them. It's the levers of power are very, very

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<v Speaker 2>different than those in business, and I think Trump runs

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<v Speaker 2>into that. Also, he's just the sort of guy who

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<v Speaker 2>plays hardball all the time. We've discussed more than once.

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<v Speaker 2>He will hire a plumber, say five hundred hotel rooms

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<v Speaker 2>and one hundred dollars a room. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the project, he says, I'll pay you

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<v Speaker 2>seventy dollars per room. If you don't like it, sue me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the way he did business. And so those impulses,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't look good in a president, and they've always

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<v Speaker 2>graded on me. So it's not like one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>looney Tunes to think that he doesn't quite understand the

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<v Speaker 2>historical weight that's on his shoulders as the president. I

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<v Speaker 2>get that. I don't think that's totally invalid. On the

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<v Speaker 2>other hand, of this specific comment from Kelly, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>a smart man, and I'm surprised he made it. But

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<v Speaker 2>as I started to say before the break, I've spent

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<v Speaker 2>my entire life trying to understand how democratic systems free

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<v Speaker 2>people permit dictatorships and totalitarianism to take hold. Whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>the French Revolution, which Jack knows more about than I do,

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<v Speaker 2>or situation MAOIs China. The Rise and Fall of the

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<v Speaker 2>Third Reich is something I've long been fascinated by, partly

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<v Speaker 2>because I studied the German language and culture. But how

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<v Speaker 2>does an educated, smart, sophisticated democratic society give way to

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most monstrous dictators you know that's lived

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<v Speaker 2>certainly in the last couple of centuries.

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<v Speaker 4>Right with the piece that I think most people miss

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<v Speaker 4>and you should read The Rise and Fall of the

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<v Speaker 4>thund right by schreier Man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good book, but anyway, it is terrific. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so readable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Hitler got elected for almost everything he did up

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<v Speaker 4>till the end when he took over. I mean, just

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<v Speaker 4>the people willingly went along with this, which is your point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, after the famous beer Hall push for which he

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<v Speaker 2>went to jail, he quite specifically said, Hey, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do this by the books now because it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not working to try to, you know, overthrow the government.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to get elected. And the point that

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly gets exactly.

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<v Speaker 10>Wrong is that he did lots of things good and

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<v Speaker 10>right and effectively at a time when Germany was was

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<v Speaker 10>was desperate for effective leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you're a stupid, freaking moron, you're thinking Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Getty's praising Hitler, Joe Getty's praising Hitler, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is how to free societies give themselves over

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<v Speaker 2>to dictatorship. And often it gets back to the whole

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<v Speaker 2>or well versus actually thing. Often it's not that those

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<v Speaker 2>societies were bull dozed and bullied. It's because they were wooed.

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<v Speaker 2>They were seduced into the idea that this great and

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<v Speaker 2>visionary leader would make their lives so good. Look what

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<v Speaker 2>he's already done that we should grant him dictatorial dictatorial

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<v Speaker 2>powers that heretofore we have considered out of the question,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, to hearken to modern times? Can you hearken

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<v Speaker 2>to modern times? Or do you have to hearken to

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can. Anyway, we on the democratic side

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<v Speaker 2>are so enlightened and so pure of heart that you

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<v Speaker 2>should you should grant us the censor's power to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of misinformation and disinformation and hate speech. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to trample on the First Amendment as long as

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<v Speaker 2>what you say is good and honest. All right, People

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<v Speaker 2>get seduced into that and It doesn't do you any

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<v Speaker 2>good as a as a you know, a participant in

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<v Speaker 2>a society that's as prone to being seduced by those

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<v Speaker 2>evil impulses as anyone and has been through history, except

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<v Speaker 2>that we've got such a great constitution. You need to understand. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the con man, the monster, the child molester, they come

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<v Speaker 2>on with a great pitch. That's why they're so dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's my gripe with John Kelly.

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<v Speaker 4>So from a guy who really is fascinated by presidential

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<v Speaker 4>campaigns and elections, I wonder to what extent this was

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<v Speaker 4>coordinated between Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic and the Harris

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<v Speaker 4>campaign because she made that turn toward he's a dangerous,

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<v Speaker 4>crazy fascist what like a week ago where she really

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<v Speaker 4>made the turn to where that it's like the only

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<v Speaker 4>thing she talks about as opposed to you know, economic

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<v Speaker 4>policy or anything like that, and then they drop this today.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be shocked if there wasn't some coordination on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure there was. I'm sure there was two.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe Goldberg didn't pick up the phone call Kamala,

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<v Speaker 2>but his people talking to her people. Hey, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>just a word of the wise. We got this blockbuster

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<v Speaker 2>coming up interview with John Kelly. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>hit the hole he's a fascist, he's going to overthrow

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<v Speaker 2>a democracy thing. We got some help for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting thing to do from a journalism standpoint, also is

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<v Speaker 4>if you have a big time story about one of

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<v Speaker 4>the candidates, you wait until you think it would have

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<v Speaker 4>maximum effect on swaying the election one way or another,

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<v Speaker 4>which is not exactly doing journalism.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'll but they could argue semi disingenuously. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when it's gonna have the great impact as a story too,

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<v Speaker 2>because interest is at fever.

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<v Speaker 4>Pole when we would sell the most issues of our magazine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I suppose you make that flegs, etc. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that's the reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know. My final thought on this topic, and

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<v Speaker 2>I made it earlier, is that I understand the concerns

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<v Speaker 2>about Trump and his tendencies and his lack of historical

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<v Speaker 2>perspective on the importance of the presidency and the Constitution

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. It bothers me a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>the guy, but I think the smartest, best people in

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party will restrain his worst impulses. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think the smartest, best people in the Democratic Party will

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<v Speaker 2>encourage Kamala Harris's worst impulses toward undermining the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 2>ending the filibuster, trampling on free speech, which I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what, you wanted to see me go down fight

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<v Speaker 2>and come after my free speech. Anyway, I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>right about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I spent a lot of time thinking about this last night,

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<v Speaker 4>actually because I have friends who who are so worried

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<v Speaker 4>about Trump, anti Trump, who are conservatives. I just am

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<v Speaker 4>not worried about damage he can do as president. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just not And I don't know if I'm naive, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not. I really don't think our system would allow

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<v Speaker 4>a guy. I mean, like, I one hundred percent think

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<v Speaker 4>our system doesn't allow a guy to all of a

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<v Speaker 4>sudden take over the military and become a dictator.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be impossible, right right, accommodation of the strength of

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<v Speaker 2>our institutions and constitution. Well, now that's really that. I

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<v Speaker 2>can end it there. Our institutions are strong enough to

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<v Speaker 2>withstand something like that. If indeed Trump and the story,

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<v Speaker 2>the narrative is, instead of the John Kellys and John

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<v Speaker 2>Bolton's of the world, for instance, He's going to have

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<v Speaker 2>all sycophants this time who are willing to do his

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<v Speaker 2>every bidding, no matter how nutty. But even if that

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<v Speaker 2>were the case, if there was, for instance, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just for instance, if he decides he is going to

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<v Speaker 2>make the Justice Department purely a tool of his vengeance

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<v Speaker 2>against those he perceives as having wronged him, and a

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of them have freaking wronged him, he's right. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>if it crossed the line into something that was untoward

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<v Speaker 2>on that'sy cale, you'd see a mass resignation of attorneys

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<v Speaker 2>and all sorts of people around the country. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it would, it would bring the DOJ to a halt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that we're getting way out of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Should be podcast stuff, probably long drawn out, dry podcast

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that people do for three hours.

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<v Speaker 2>But I grew up with.

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<v Speaker 4>A sort of a fascination around Watergate because it happened

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<v Speaker 4>when I was a little kid, didn't fully understand it,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it was always portrayed as such a horror

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<v Speaker 4>in how he came so close to losing the country

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<v Speaker 4>and everything like that my whole life, and then when

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<v Speaker 4>I got old enough to fully understand it, we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>come close at all. He had several attorney generals in

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<v Speaker 4>a row resign saying I'm not doing that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to do that, which is what would happen under Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Also right right, keeping in mind the senatorial approval of

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<v Speaker 2>various posts that the president might try to fill. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't see it going very far. Do

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<v Speaker 2>I worry sometimes about Trump and his impulses? Yeah, absolutely so, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I worry more about Kamala Harrison progressive policies in

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<v Speaker 2>the ways polluting the heart and mind of America, not

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<v Speaker 2>to mention, ushering in millions of Venezuela and gang members

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<v Speaker 2>and god knows what else. Yeah, I find that a

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<v Speaker 2>much more direct and immediate threat.

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<v Speaker 4>So a couple of other things to pass along to

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<v Speaker 4>you from this amazing video cast that I watched last

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<v Speaker 4>night with a whole bunch of insiders. One that idea

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<v Speaker 4>that if early voting holds up the way it is,

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's gonna win quite easily.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it holds up or not, don't know.

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 4>And look for a turn, they said Republican and Democrat

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 4>strategists starting probably at least by this weekend, where they

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<v Speaker 4>start saying, look, we're gonna lose. You need to turn out,

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<v Speaker 4>getting away from the you know well, just flat out

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<v Speaker 4>saying it. I mean, this is your hail Mary desperate

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<v Speaker 4>sort of thing, admitting you're losing.

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<v Speaker 2>Going from where the underdog where the plucky up starts,

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 2>we're changed to hey, we're about to lose. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And also to see a turn by congress people starting

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<v Speaker 4>to make the argument, hey, we need to be the

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<v Speaker 4>check on Trump, so you need to vote for me

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 4>a congress person. If if you're going out to vote

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<v Speaker 4>for you know, Trump, vote for me as a Democrat

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<v Speaker 4>for your congress person to be a check on Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>that they might finally do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. As I mentioned earlier, all the Wall Street guys

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and hedge fun guys that are making big bets that

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Trump's going to be the winner, betting huge stacks of money,

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 2>not literally bets, but you know what I mean, investments.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirteen days ago. Though a fair number of things could

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<v Speaker 4>happen in thirteen days. I'm shocked how much it's moved

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 4>in the last thirteen or the previous thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>What a wild ride.

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<v Speaker 4>This whole thing has been, and it just won go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it would be good if somebody were declared

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<v Speaker 4>the winner on election day I just think that would

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<v Speaker 4>be a calming thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, we haven't even mentioned a robust, manly American

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<v Speaker 2>foreign policy, although I'm a little concerned about Ukraine. And

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>also what was the other issue that oh in energy independence,

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>which underpins virtually the entire economy. Didn't even mention that

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<v Speaker 2>issue versus Trump sometimes wants to issue orders they go

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<v Speaker 2>around Congress.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Trump's doing Joe Rogan on Friday. He doesn't need to.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of surprised. I think he's doing it to

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<v Speaker 4>try to you know, cause there was Taka Kamala doing

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 4>it and she has I was just gonna ask what

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 4>happened with him. Yeah, so I think he's doing Rogan

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 4>to try to have it. Okay, I did Rogan, You're

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 4>gonna do Rogan. You know she tried the same thing

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<v Speaker 4>with sixty minutes. I can give you an example of

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 4>why maybe he didn't do sixty minutes. This thing from

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<v Speaker 4>the CBS Evening News from the other night. Give you

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 4>an idea how biased they are. It's crazy. Among other

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 4>things we've got coming up, listen to this.

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<v Speaker 11>Tonight, in Detroit, at a Harris campaign event, Eminem introduced

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<v Speaker 11>former President Obama. Eminem and Obama yep, and between them

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<v Speaker 11>the average out to talking at a normal speed.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom's spaghetti.

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<v Speaker 4>I found that amusing. Oh so I just went back

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 4>and watched a little of the morning version of the

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 4>political podcast I watched, where they re brought up the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that there's a story floating out there about Trump

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 4>that would end his campaign. Mark Alprin doesn't believe it's real.

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<v Speaker 4>No other outlet has picked it up either. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>imagine what that would be because Trump has had so

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<v Speaker 4>many actual things occur that he's weathered easily, because I

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 4>think he's gonna get elected again. Can't imagine what would

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<v Speaker 4>be so strong it would end his campaign, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a week out when he's winning.

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<v Speaker 2>What could it possibly be?

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, they also mentioned there's a story out there floating

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 4>around about Tim Walls that would end his campaign regarding

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 4>something to do with ties to Russia that they also

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 4>believe is not true. But the point being that there's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be a bunch of stuff coming in this last

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<v Speaker 4>dozen days or so from all kinds of places, including

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<v Speaker 4>Russia and China and Iran. We all need to remember

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<v Speaker 4>that even if it's something that helps our favorite candidate,

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<v Speaker 4>we do not want our enemies influencing our elections.

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<v Speaker 2>That ain't good, right, right, just stirring the pot in

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<v Speaker 2>general worth mentioning. Speaking of dishonest stories, we featured the

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<v Speaker 2>ad yesterday of a nice old lady right before NBC

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<v Speaker 2>News saying Donald Trump keeps talking about cutting Social Security.

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<v Speaker 2>I need that money to live.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump hasn't uttered a word about cutting Social Security. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish he would.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how dishonest it is now at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so many official stuff is dishonest and misleading, as

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 4>it always has been in politics and always will be.

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 4>And then you got who knows what story's floating around

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 4>and uh so many pointing out Jeffrey Goldberg may have

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<v Speaker 4>just finished his journalism on the whole Trump Hitler story

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<v Speaker 4>and it came out today.

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<v Speaker 2>But probably not come on to give you an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>He was shouting at his staff. We've got to wrap

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<v Speaker 2>up this Trump Hitler thing. It's mid October and we

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<v Speaker 2>just got the start. No stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>Nazi Germany prey meditated to give you an idea how

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<v Speaker 4>all in the mainstream media is for one side or another.

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<v Speaker 4>This is from Monday Evenings CBS Evening News with Nora O'Donnell.

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<v Speaker 4>She was one of the moderators from the last debate,

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<v Speaker 4>and so this is covering a whole big week, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>second to last weekend before the presidential election, lots of

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<v Speaker 4>campaigning going on. Here's how she summarizes both candidates.

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<v Speaker 12>A selection day is just over two weeks away, and

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<v Speaker 12>the fight for every single last undecided vote in battleground

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<v Speaker 12>states is intensifying. Vice President Kamala Harris's targeting disaffected Republican

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<v Speaker 12>voters by hitting the trail with Liz Cheney in the

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<v Speaker 12>crucial blue wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Cheney

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<v Speaker 12>was a powerful Republican congresswoman and today she called Harris

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<v Speaker 12>a responsible adult. As for former President Donald Trump, he

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<v Speaker 12>was back in North Carolina again pushing false claims about

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<v Speaker 12>FEMA and immigrants, as after he spent the weekend slinging

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<v Speaker 12>a crude insult at Harris, engaging in lewd locker room

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<v Speaker 12>talk about the late golfing legend Arnold Palmer, and staging

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<v Speaker 12>a campaign stunt at a Pennsylvania McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 4>That is almost impossible to believe that it actually happened

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<v Speaker 4>to that level.

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<v Speaker 2>If that had been written by the DNC. How would

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<v Speaker 2>it have been different.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it would be at all, unless they

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<v Speaker 4>might have said that's too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got to ease up. It's too obvious. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see you, Nora O'Donnell's big hair and I'll raise

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<v Speaker 2>you Lester Holt's sonorous voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Same night tonight, the race for the White House, both

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<v Speaker 1>candidates blitzing the battlegrounds were just fifteen days to go,

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<v Speaker 1>with Poles showing a dead heat. Vice President Kamala Harrison,

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<v Speaker 1>former President Donald Trump going all in on swing states,

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Trump criss crossing North Carolina, repeating falsehoods about the

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<v Speaker 1>response to Hurricane Helene and declining to denounce violent threats

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<v Speaker 1>to FEMA workers Wow, and Trump's supporter Elon Musk, raising

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<v Speaker 1>concerns by offering million dollar giveaways to voters. Miss Harris

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<v Speaker 1>today barnstorming three battlegrounds Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin alongside Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Liz Cheney. Why Cheney says even women who are anti

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<v Speaker 1>abortion like she is, should back Miss Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>On freaking Believe Tonight on the Kamala News Network, What

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<v Speaker 4>you just heard unbelievable. I could write in like a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>the opposite way to handle that, and it would be

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<v Speaker 4>just as true, or a neutral one, or a neutral

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<v Speaker 4>one if you wanted to be a journalist. God, that

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.479
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