Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and Jettie and
Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 3: The CDC is warning of a deadly E Coli outbreak
Speaker 3: linked to the McDonald's quarter pounder. At least forty nine
Speaker 3: people in ten states have gotten sick between September twenty
Speaker 3: seventh and October eleventh. McDonald's removing the sandwich from the
Speaker 3: menu in affected areas, saying in a statement a subset
Speaker 3: of illnesses may be linked to slivered onions used in
Speaker 3: the quarter pounder and sourced by a single supplier that
Speaker 3: serves three distribution centers.
Speaker 4: I said to my son, how do I always order
Speaker 4: the quarter pounder? He said, with no onions. We high five,
Speaker 4: so I'm in the clear. I had texted my brother immediately.
Speaker 4: He was a fan of the fast food. I said,
Speaker 4: I've had a quarter pounder with cheese today. He said,
Speaker 4: I haven't had one since Friday, so everything, Thanks God,
Speaker 4: God of a funny response. Really, I haven't had one
Speaker 4: in several days, so I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Got the funky onions going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's quite a deal for a lot of people
Speaker 4: are a lot, But I've heard four or five different
Speaker 4: people say kind of a coleincidence at McDonald's has a
Speaker 4: Trump's at McDonald's, and then they claim this, So I
Speaker 4: don't think they're related at all. Pretty big deal for
Speaker 4: a major corporation like McDonald's, though, you got two large
Speaker 4: a number of people that ended up in the hospital
Speaker 4: and one person died.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a horrifying pr blow, not to mention,
Speaker 2: you know, the loss of life.
Speaker 4: Plus I love a quarter pounder with cheese, no onions.
Speaker 4: That's a good burger. Well, that's a burger burger. Using
Speaker 4: my finger quotes burger coming up. The latest claims that
Speaker 4: Trump is Hitler from his former chief of staff. This
Speaker 4: is I think I can attempt at an October surprise.
Speaker 4: I mean, because they've had this information for years and
Speaker 4: here's a new round of it coming out today and
Speaker 4: we'll get to that on the way, so stay tuned.
Speaker 2: Well it may be October. Well there you go. That settles.
Speaker 2: It may be October. But I've been hearing T equals
Speaker 2: H for a long time. Anyway, more analysis to come
Speaker 2: in real life. People bringing this up to me a
Speaker 2: lot the whole Menendez Brothers. You got the Netflix series,
Speaker 2: and you got the documentary, and you got the actual
Speaker 2: court case. Here we go.
Speaker 5: Renewed and intense push to possibly get two of the
Speaker 5: nation's most infamous convicted killers out of prison. Eric and
Speaker 5: Lyle Menendez shot and killed their parents at their Beverly
Speaker 5: Hills home in nineteen eighty nine. They were found guilty
Speaker 5: of first degree murder in nineteen ninety six, but now
Speaker 5: thirty five years later, some of their family members and
Speaker 5: celebrity turned criminal justice for former advocate Kim Kardashian and
Speaker 5: others say that the Menanda's brother's life sentences should be
Speaker 5: re examined.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: A letter written months before the nineth teen eighty nine
Speaker 5: murders has become a crucial new piece of the brother's
Speaker 5: new fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So before you want to hear from George Gascon,
Speaker 4: before you explain what you think is going on here
Speaker 4: or not?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Unholy loved child of Kermit the Frog and
Speaker 2: Count Dracula. Yeah, go ahead, twenty one, Michael, I'm evaluating.
Speaker 6: There's actually two different camps.
Speaker 2: In my office.
Speaker 6: I have a group of people, including some that were
Speaker 6: involving the original trial that are adamant that they should
Speaker 6: spend the rest of their life in prison and that
Speaker 6: they were not molested. I have other people in the
Speaker 6: office that believe actually that they probably were molested and
Speaker 6: that they deserve to have some relief. I planned to
Speaker 6: have a decision by the end of this week, which
Speaker 6: is what I promised. We had a court time late
Speaker 6: November on the Avias, but given the public attention to
Speaker 6: this case, I've decided to try to come up with
Speaker 6: a decision earlier than that, and I will.
Speaker 2: This is a radical Marxist scumback desperately trying to hold
Speaker 2: onto his job, George Giscone, who's bent on overwhelming the
Speaker 2: legal system to bring it down and Russia in a
Speaker 2: Marxist utopia. He believes in turning scumbags loose any chance
Speaker 2: he gets.
Speaker 4: Oh and yeah, he's let all kinds of criminals get
Speaker 4: away with being criminals because of his weird ideology. So
Speaker 4: you got to factor that into the whole Menandaz thing.
Speaker 4: But so, the Menendez brothers shotgunned their parents to death,
Speaker 4: were found guilty, been in prison a very very long time.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: There's claims with this Netflix series and all kinds of
Speaker 4: different stuff that there's new information that they were so
Speaker 4: violently sexually abused by specifically their dad, that you know,
Speaker 4: you would have done the same thing grown up in
Speaker 4: that household. There's also information, Katie, you actually watched the series.
Speaker 4: I was talking to somebody about this the other day,
Speaker 4: and I'd forgotten this a fair amount of information that
Speaker 4: they had been researching this sort of thing before they
Speaker 4: killed their parents, about you know, how you justify these
Speaker 4: sorts of murders, and going to the library and looking
Speaker 4: up that's sort of thing, and looking into other cases
Speaker 4: where people had made these claims for sure premeditated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and their defense was premeditated. And just the legal
Speaker 2: doctrine then is now, is that you can't kill somebody
Speaker 2: in vengeance for abuse. You can to protect your own life. Now,
Speaker 2: between then and now, harshness of sentencing thoughts on that
Speaker 2: topic have changed. They may have gotten a somewhat lighter
Speaker 2: sentence if indeed the sexual abuse had been agreed upon
Speaker 2: by the court. Documentary. I'm a little stipulated.
Speaker 4: I'm a little soft on the old vengeance thing.
Speaker 2: I gotta admit, I know what you mean.
Speaker 4: Some horrible scumbagger abuses you, and you finally decide that's it.
Speaker 2: As a juror. Yeah, a lot of people feel that way,
Speaker 2: and it's very brave of you to say that out loud. Ah,
Speaker 2: But no, I know, I know what you mean. So
Speaker 2: that's true. Of those things are true, So it's conceivable
Speaker 2: you could find a judge who would soften the sentence.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, as we mentioned a week or
Speaker 2: two ago, when this stuff was first burbling up, they
Speaker 2: had a session with psychiatrist in which they had every
Speaker 2: opportunity to talk about sexual abuse, and it just they
Speaker 2: never ever brought it up. And in the original trial,
Speaker 2: according to the appeal judge, the evidence of that was
Speaker 2: so thin it wasn't even worth discussing on a factual basis.
Speaker 2: He wasn't even going to take it on, or the
Speaker 2: panel of judges wasn't even going to take it on.
Speaker 2: So documentaries and the guy who did the documentary, this
Speaker 2: is what he does. Take gruesome crimes and high profile
Speaker 2: stuff and take a new look at the facts and
Speaker 2: really emphasize this fact and dramatize it and drag people in.
Speaker 2: And I don't claim to have the be all and
Speaker 2: end all definitive opinion on this, but if he went
Speaker 2: into this project, and he put out a product that said,
Speaker 2: Oh no, they're guilty as hell. They should be in jail.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a tenth as compelling is the idea
Speaker 2: of misplaced justice and these handsome boys are actually victims
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. So you emphasize the one thing
Speaker 2: over the other in order to get that vibe going.
Speaker 2: That's what he does for a living.
Speaker 4: It's tough because if I heard some descriptions of what
Speaker 4: they claim their dad was doing to him, and it's
Speaker 4: pretty over the top horrific from the Netflix series, If
Speaker 4: that happened to you as a kid.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you'd react.
Speaker 4: You might not tell somebody when you're given the opportunity
Speaker 4: to tell them, You just might not. That might be
Speaker 4: so lotched up in your mind as a secret that
Speaker 4: you can't deal with.
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's right. It's like people who can't
Speaker 2: believe that a woman raped by Harvey Weinstein couldn't say
Speaker 2: anything or bring it to the police. I don't believe her, now,
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't get it. You haven't heard, read,
Speaker 2: learned enough about victims, especially that sort of crime, and
Speaker 2: in their minds and their hearts and the rest of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I you know, some of the stuff that's alleged is
Speaker 2: quote unquote extreme, but any brand of child rape to me,
Speaker 2: whatever you got coming, you got it coming now. But
Speaker 2: she wanted to go into all the facts of the
Speaker 2: trial to put her out of her misery.
Speaker 4: They said, that's pretty hard to justify.
Speaker 2: And when she survived the initial several shootings, they went out,
Speaker 2: got more ammunition from the garage and everything he was reloaded.
Speaker 2: The shotgun came in and point blanked her.
Speaker 4: Wow, I'd forgotten that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the AMMO was in the back of their car.
Speaker 7: And at one point the investigators let I forget which
Speaker 7: one of the brothers go out and actually take the
Speaker 7: bag that had THEMO and the AMMO and the empty
Speaker 7: shells out of the car because he said he needed
Speaker 7: to get his tennis stuff, which was a big part
Speaker 7: of blowing the evidence.
Speaker 4: So if Gash go and lets them out, does he
Speaker 4: have the power to let him out.
Speaker 2: No, he's got to find a judge who like refers
Speaker 2: it back to the prosecution or and I'm sorry, I
Speaker 2: don't know the exact terminology, but the judge said, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's definitely reason to have a retrial and then guests
Speaker 2: go and says, yeah, the people of California choose not
Speaker 2: to retry them. That's when he would have a roll.
Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, please hit us with an email mail
Speaker 2: bag at Armstrong and Getty. Wow.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine the celebrity interview get that would be
Speaker 4: if they both get out?
Speaker 6: Woo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that would be a it would be big. Wow,
Speaker 2: here's a twist.
Speaker 4: I'll be darned. Well, do we want to roll on?
Speaker 4: We were going to roll on with more avern behavior,
Speaker 4: but I feel like that's an awful lot for one segment.
Speaker 2: Well, let's just if you haven't heard the story. The
Speaker 2: Abercrombie and Fitch CEO, who's behind all those like sexualized,
Speaker 2: like disturbingly young model advertising campaigns. He was a hardcore
Speaker 2: core boy rapist and torturer and a monster, just a perverse,
Speaker 2: ditty styled rapist monster. I used to mock.
Speaker 4: Every single year the Abercrombie and Fitch catalog would come out,
Speaker 4: and this was for decades, starting way back when I
Speaker 4: was a music disc jockey. The catalog would come out
Speaker 4: and there'd be a controversy. Some people say the pictures
Speaker 4: are too sexualized and too young, and I would and
Speaker 4: I always said, they're just jerking you around. They do
Speaker 4: some stuff that's kind of a risque. So they get
Speaker 4: all this media coverage and the main theme being Hey, everybody,
Speaker 4: the new Abercrombie and Fitch catalog's out. It was a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of free publicity. Turns out the guy is
Speaker 4: actually a provo. I think, yeah, both are true, Both
Speaker 4: are true, but he wasn't just manipulating the media. It's
Speaker 4: actually like really bad, like Ditty.
Speaker 2: Bad, h Harvey Weinstein bad, Jeffrey Epstein bad. And I
Speaker 2: think the theme here is that if you are powerful
Speaker 2: and you are rich, people will, for fear or favor,
Speaker 2: remain silent about your horrors. That's just the way people are.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to bring anybody down or freak anybody out,
Speaker 2: but you've got to understand that's the way human beings behave.
Speaker 2: In a lot of cases, they will keep their mouths shut,
Speaker 2: whether to profit from it or out of fear of
Speaker 2: the powerful person. No matter what horrors they witness or
Speaker 2: maybe embarrassment. They don't want their lives to get worse.
Speaker 4: They feel like their lives to get worse rather than
Speaker 4: better if they move forward with trying to bring this
Speaker 4: person down.
Speaker 2: Well, in every victimizer like this will say to their victims,
Speaker 2: if you know the circumstances are right, if you breathe
Speaker 2: a word of this, I will ruin you. I can.
Speaker 4: I can perfectly understand why you'd take a pass, even
Speaker 4: if you were like convinced that if I come forward,
Speaker 4: this person's going to go to jail. You just think
Speaker 4: I want this to be behind me. I don't want
Speaker 4: to think about it again in my life. I can
Speaker 4: see how you do that. But yeah, we've got the
Speaker 4: there's no arguing with you. The evidence is in between
Speaker 4: Harvey Weinstein, P. Diddy and this guy from aber Cromme
Speaker 4: and Fitch. You can get away with it for a
Speaker 4: really long time. Within each case, there's got to be
Speaker 4: hundreds of people that know what was going on.
Speaker 2: Kelly R.
Speaker 4: Kelly, and you still keep doing it. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: just it's amazing, but it's true.
Speaker 2: So I don't like human beings. It's a vicious species.
Speaker 4: We're thirteen days out from presidential election. Have we had
Speaker 4: an October surprise drop? Looks like maybe we have, we
Speaker 4: can discuss the whole hitler things stay tuned.
Speaker 8: If the early vote numbers stay the way they are,
Speaker 8: and that's a big if, we'll almost certainly know before
Speaker 8: election day who's going to win the election. We're going
Speaker 8: to talk a lot about that, the reasons why Democrats
Speaker 8: might be underperforming, the prospect that they'll recover. But again,
Speaker 8: make no mistake, if these numbers hold up states where
Speaker 8: we can understand even partially what the data is like,
Speaker 8: we'll know that Donald Trump's going to be present.
Speaker 4: That's Mark Alpern on his Zoom call last night, where
Speaker 4: he recounts what he the information he gets every day
Speaker 4: from inside sources in the campaigns Republican and Democrat. I
Speaker 4: think he works very very hard to be nonpartisan. And
Speaker 4: he says the early voting numbers are so overwhelmingly in
Speaker 4: the direction of Trump that if they hold up, and
Speaker 4: they might not. He made the point over and over again,
Speaker 4: they might not. Maybe for some reason Republicans get their
Speaker 4: early voting in earlier than Democrats do or something you
Speaker 4: never know. But if they hold up the way they
Speaker 4: are as percentages, Trump is going to win quite easily,
Speaker 4: and we will know on election day which is a
Speaker 4: pretty big story, right there. A couple other things that
Speaker 4: he had I thought were interesting. He said, He's been
Speaker 4: pitched a story that, if true, would end Trump's campaign. Oh,
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to even make up what that
Speaker 4: could possibly be, given the fact Trump's been convicted of
Speaker 4: something near rape.
Speaker 2: I mean, all, you know, all kinds of different things
Speaker 2: quote patively liable, must must.
Speaker 4: Sure, fine, But I mean, what could it possibly be?
Speaker 4: I can't even imagine? He didn't say, And he said
Speaker 4: it's been pitched to a number of news outlets, not
Speaker 4: just him, and so my guess would be it's so
Speaker 4: over the top and unverifiable that nobody's run.
Speaker 2: With it yet.
Speaker 4: But he has slaves currently, he'd have to currently have slaves.
Speaker 2: In Trump Tower. That's not to move the needle at all.
Speaker 4: I feel like, seriously, I can't imagine he's got a
Speaker 4: gimp in the basement.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what it could be. I
Speaker 2: don't think one would be enough.
Speaker 4: Uh, with the point being made that it's going to
Speaker 4: be a very ugly last couple of weeks, and I
Speaker 4: think we know how this is starting, so uh. He
Speaker 4: mentioned last night in the Zoom call that the Atlanta
Speaker 4: was about to drop a big story, okay, and they
Speaker 4: did so. Jeffrey Goldberg, who runs The Atlantic, released the
Speaker 4: audio of some interviews with John Kelly. John Kelly was
Speaker 4: the longest serving chief of staff under Donald Trump. Four
Speaker 4: star general, highly respected guy, and he did an interview
Speaker 4: with The Atlantic recounting some stuff that we've mostly heard before.
Speaker 2: But here's a little bit of that here than ones.
Speaker 9: You know, the Hitler did some good things too, and
Speaker 9: of course, if you know history, again, I think he's
Speaker 9: lacking in that. But if you know what his you know,
Speaker 9: Hitler was all about, uh, you'd be pretty hard to
Speaker 9: make an argument that you did anything good.
Speaker 4: So that is being portrayed in all lefty and mainstream
Speaker 4: news media as Trump at being caught admiring Hitler with
Speaker 4: all respect. And I mean that in reality, not just
Speaker 4: the phrase, but in all reality. To John Kelly, I
Speaker 4: don't agree with that at all.
Speaker 2: The idea. You disagree vehemently.
Speaker 4: If you know history, there's no way you could possibly
Speaker 4: say Hitler did anything well or good.
Speaker 2: That's exactly the wrong lesson. I have spent my entire
Speaker 2: life trying to comprehend the rise and fall of the
Speaker 2: Third Reich and a couple other regimes, because I am so.
Speaker 2: I find it so incredibly compelling, the question of how
Speaker 2: does a educated, modern democratic society give way to a
Speaker 2: dictatorial regime? And then you know what happens from there?
Speaker 2: And and one of the primary parts of that answer,
Speaker 2: if you're going to answer it honestly, is that Hitler
Speaker 2: did indeed bring a lot of good things to Germany
Speaker 2: and and and you know, I don't have time to
Speaker 2: even get into this, but we deny that because you're right.
Speaker 4: I think it's important enough to it's going to be
Speaker 4: the story of the day for mainstream media.
Speaker 2: It's it to me. It's like if you got to go,
Speaker 2: it's like denying. Sometimes a con man can be charming. No,
Speaker 2: that's the key thing you have to understand. That's what
Speaker 2: they do, is their arming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, are people's deep enough, smart enough to understand the
Speaker 4: nuance of this. I don't even think it's that much nuance,
Speaker 4: But uh, stay tuned a lot more on the way.
Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 9: He caught its more than ones that you know, the
Speaker 9: Hitler did some good things too, And of course, if
Speaker 9: you know history, again, I think he's lacking in mat if.
Speaker 2: You know what his you know Hitler was all about.
Speaker 9: Uh it, You would be pretty hard to make an
Speaker 9: argument that she did anything good.
Speaker 4: Some of the clips released by the Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg,
Speaker 4: who talked to Trump's former chief of staff, four star
Speaker 4: General John Kelly, And that's a I think an attempt
Speaker 4: at an October surprise today is that they're going heavy
Speaker 4: with it on on ah. Well, a lot of mainstream
Speaker 4: media and certainly are anti Trump channels. Hitler praised by Trump,
Speaker 4: that sort of thing, and Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic.
Speaker 2: Doing interviews everywhere. I just brought up the Atlantic piece.
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Goldberger reports Trump's obsession with dictators and disdain for
Speaker 4: the American military is deepening. And that particular quote that
Speaker 4: they put out there that I heard first thing when
Speaker 4: I got up this morning, about if you know anything
Speaker 4: about history, how can you be saying Hitler did some
Speaker 4: good things?
Speaker 2: Right? So I've got a number of thoughts on the topic.
Speaker 2: Number One, I get that Trump does have quote unquote
Speaker 2: dictatorial impulses. I think it's mostly that he was a
Speaker 2: a CEO, and every CEO gets into politics, it learns
Speaker 2: quickly that I can't just bark out orders and everybody
Speaker 2: obeys them. It's the levers of power are very, very
Speaker 2: different than those in business, and I think Trump runs
Speaker 2: into that. Also, he's just the sort of guy who
Speaker 2: plays hardball all the time. We've discussed more than once.
Speaker 2: He will hire a plumber, say five hundred hotel rooms
Speaker 2: and one hundred dollars a room. When it comes to
Speaker 2: the end of the project, he says, I'll pay you
Speaker 2: seventy dollars per room. If you don't like it, sue me.
Speaker 2: That's just the way he did business. And so those impulses,
Speaker 2: they don't look good in a president, and they've always
Speaker 2: graded on me. So it's not like one hundred percent
Speaker 2: looney Tunes to think that he doesn't quite understand the
Speaker 2: historical weight that's on his shoulders as the president. I
Speaker 2: get that. I don't think that's totally invalid. On the
Speaker 2: other hand, of this specific comment from Kelly, and he's
Speaker 2: a smart man, and I'm surprised he made it. But
Speaker 2: as I started to say before the break, I've spent
Speaker 2: my entire life trying to understand how democratic systems free
Speaker 2: people permit dictatorships and totalitarianism to take hold. Whether it's
Speaker 2: the French Revolution, which Jack knows more about than I do,
Speaker 2: or situation MAOIs China. The Rise and Fall of the
Speaker 2: Third Reich is something I've long been fascinated by, partly
Speaker 2: because I studied the German language and culture. But how
Speaker 2: does an educated, smart, sophisticated democratic society give way to
Speaker 2: one of the most monstrous dictators you know that's lived
Speaker 2: certainly in the last couple of centuries.
Speaker 4: Right with the piece that I think most people miss
Speaker 4: and you should read The Rise and Fall of the
Speaker 4: thund right by schreier Man.
Speaker 2: That's a good book, but anyway, it is terrific. It's
Speaker 2: so readable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hitler got elected for almost everything he did up
Speaker 4: till the end when he took over. I mean, just
Speaker 4: the people willingly went along with this, which is your point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after the famous beer Hall push for which he
Speaker 2: went to jail, he quite specifically said, Hey, we're going
Speaker 2: to do this by the books now because it's just
Speaker 2: not working to try to, you know, overthrow the government.
Speaker 2: So we're going to get elected. And the point that
Speaker 2: Kelly gets exactly.
Speaker 10: Wrong is that he did lots of things good and
Speaker 10: right and effectively at a time when Germany was was
Speaker 10: was desperate for effective leadership.
Speaker 2: Now, if you're a stupid, freaking moron, you're thinking Joe
Speaker 2: Getty's praising Hitler, Joe Getty's praising Hitler, not at all.
Speaker 2: The question is how to free societies give themselves over
Speaker 2: to dictatorship. And often it gets back to the whole
Speaker 2: or well versus actually thing. Often it's not that those
Speaker 2: societies were bull dozed and bullied. It's because they were wooed.
Speaker 2: They were seduced into the idea that this great and
Speaker 2: visionary leader would make their lives so good. Look what
Speaker 2: he's already done that we should grant him dictatorial dictatorial
Speaker 2: powers that heretofore we have considered out of the question,
Speaker 2: for instance, to hearken to modern times? Can you hearken
Speaker 2: to modern times? Or do you have to hearken to
Speaker 2: I think you can. Anyway, we on the democratic side
Speaker 2: are so enlightened and so pure of heart that you
Speaker 2: should you should grant us the censor's power to get
Speaker 2: rid of misinformation and disinformation and hate speech. We're not
Speaker 2: going to trample on the First Amendment as long as
Speaker 2: what you say is good and honest. All right, People
Speaker 2: get seduced into that and It doesn't do you any
Speaker 2: good as a as a you know, a participant in
Speaker 2: a society that's as prone to being seduced by those
Speaker 2: evil impulses as anyone and has been through history, except
Speaker 2: that we've got such a great constitution. You need to understand. Yes,
Speaker 2: the con man, the monster, the child molester, they come
Speaker 2: on with a great pitch. That's why they're so dangerous.
Speaker 2: So that's my gripe with John Kelly.
Speaker 4: So from a guy who really is fascinated by presidential
Speaker 4: campaigns and elections, I wonder to what extent this was
Speaker 4: coordinated between Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic and the Harris
Speaker 4: campaign because she made that turn toward he's a dangerous,
Speaker 4: crazy fascist what like a week ago where she really
Speaker 4: made the turn to where that it's like the only
Speaker 4: thing she talks about as opposed to you know, economic
Speaker 4: policy or anything like that, and then they drop this today.
Speaker 4: I'd be shocked if there wasn't some coordination on that.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure there was. I'm sure there was two.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe Goldberg didn't pick up the phone call Kamala,
Speaker 2: but his people talking to her people. Hey, by the way,
Speaker 2: just a word of the wise. We got this blockbuster
Speaker 2: coming up interview with John Kelly. If you want to
Speaker 2: hit the hole he's a fascist, he's going to overthrow
Speaker 2: a democracy thing. We got some help for you.
Speaker 4: Interesting thing to do from a journalism standpoint, also is
Speaker 4: if you have a big time story about one of
Speaker 4: the candidates, you wait until you think it would have
Speaker 4: maximum effect on swaying the election one way or another,
Speaker 4: which is not exactly doing journalism.
Speaker 2: No, I'll but they could argue semi disingenuously. Well, that's
Speaker 2: when it's gonna have the great impact as a story too,
Speaker 2: because interest is at fever.
Speaker 4: Pole when we would sell the most issues of our magazine. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I suppose you make that flegs, etc. I don't think
Speaker 4: that's the reason.
Speaker 2: Oh you know. My final thought on this topic, and
Speaker 2: I made it earlier, is that I understand the concerns
Speaker 2: about Trump and his tendencies and his lack of historical
Speaker 2: perspective on the importance of the presidency and the Constitution
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It bothers me a lot about
Speaker 2: the guy, but I think the smartest, best people in
Speaker 2: the Republican Party will restrain his worst impulses. And I
Speaker 2: think the smartest, best people in the Democratic Party will
Speaker 2: encourage Kamala Harris's worst impulses toward undermining the Supreme Court,
Speaker 2: ending the filibuster, trampling on free speech, which I tell
Speaker 2: you what, you wanted to see me go down fight
Speaker 2: and come after my free speech. Anyway, I think you're
Speaker 2: right about that.
Speaker 4: I spent a lot of time thinking about this last night,
Speaker 4: actually because I have friends who who are so worried
Speaker 4: about Trump, anti Trump, who are conservatives. I just am
Speaker 4: not worried about damage he can do as president. I'm
Speaker 4: just not And I don't know if I'm naive, but
Speaker 4: I'm not. I really don't think our system would allow
Speaker 4: a guy. I mean, like, I one hundred percent think
Speaker 4: our system doesn't allow a guy to all of a
Speaker 4: sudden take over the military and become a dictator.
Speaker 2: It'd be impossible, right right, accommodation of the strength of
Speaker 2: our institutions and constitution. Well, now that's really that. I
Speaker 2: can end it there. Our institutions are strong enough to
Speaker 2: withstand something like that. If indeed Trump and the story,
Speaker 2: the narrative is, instead of the John Kellys and John
Speaker 2: Bolton's of the world, for instance, He's going to have
Speaker 2: all sycophants this time who are willing to do his
Speaker 2: every bidding, no matter how nutty. But even if that
Speaker 2: were the case, if there was, for instance, I mean,
Speaker 2: just for instance, if he decides he is going to
Speaker 2: make the Justice Department purely a tool of his vengeance
Speaker 2: against those he perceives as having wronged him, and a
Speaker 2: lot of them have freaking wronged him, he's right. But anyway,
Speaker 2: if it crossed the line into something that was untoward
Speaker 2: on that'sy cale, you'd see a mass resignation of attorneys
Speaker 2: and all sorts of people around the country. I mean,
Speaker 2: it would, it would bring the DOJ to a halt. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know that we're getting way out of this.
Speaker 4: Should be podcast stuff, probably long drawn out, dry podcast
Speaker 4: stuff that people do for three hours.
Speaker 2: But I grew up with.
Speaker 4: A sort of a fascination around Watergate because it happened
Speaker 4: when I was a little kid, didn't fully understand it,
Speaker 4: and then it was always portrayed as such a horror
Speaker 4: in how he came so close to losing the country
Speaker 4: and everything like that my whole life, and then when
Speaker 4: I got old enough to fully understand it, we didn't
Speaker 4: come close at all. He had several attorney generals in
Speaker 4: a row resign saying I'm not doing that. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to do that, which is what would happen under Trump.
Speaker 2: Also right right, keeping in mind the senatorial approval of
Speaker 2: various posts that the president might try to fill. But no,
Speaker 2: I just I don't see it going very far. Do
Speaker 2: I worry sometimes about Trump and his impulses? Yeah, absolutely so, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Do I worry more about Kamala Harrison progressive policies in
Speaker 2: the ways polluting the heart and mind of America, not
Speaker 2: to mention, ushering in millions of Venezuela and gang members
Speaker 2: and god knows what else. Yeah, I find that a
Speaker 2: much more direct and immediate threat.
Speaker 4: So a couple of other things to pass along to
Speaker 4: you from this amazing video cast that I watched last
Speaker 4: night with a whole bunch of insiders. One that idea
Speaker 4: that if early voting holds up the way it is,
Speaker 4: Trump's gonna win quite easily.
Speaker 2: Whether it holds up or not, don't know.
Speaker 4: And look for a turn, they said Republican and Democrat
Speaker 4: strategists starting probably at least by this weekend, where they
Speaker 4: start saying, look, we're gonna lose. You need to turn out,
Speaker 4: getting away from the you know well, just flat out
Speaker 4: saying it. I mean, this is your hail Mary desperate
Speaker 4: sort of thing, admitting you're losing.
Speaker 2: Going from where the underdog where the plucky up starts,
Speaker 2: we're changed to hey, we're about to lose. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And also to see a turn by congress people starting
Speaker 4: to make the argument, hey, we need to be the
Speaker 4: check on Trump, so you need to vote for me
Speaker 4: a congress person. If if you're going out to vote
Speaker 4: for you know, Trump, vote for me as a Democrat
Speaker 4: for your congress person to be a check on Trump,
Speaker 4: that they might finally do that.
Speaker 2: Interesting. As I mentioned earlier, all the Wall Street guys
Speaker 2: and hedge fun guys that are making big bets that
Speaker 2: Trump's going to be the winner, betting huge stacks of money,
Speaker 2: not literally bets, but you know what I mean, investments.
Speaker 4: Thirteen days ago. Though a fair number of things could
Speaker 4: happen in thirteen days. I'm shocked how much it's moved
Speaker 4: in the last thirteen or the previous thirty.
Speaker 2: What a wild ride.
Speaker 4: This whole thing has been, and it just won go ahead.
Speaker 4: I think it would be good if somebody were declared
Speaker 4: the winner on election day I just think that would
Speaker 4: be a calming thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we haven't even mentioned a robust, manly American
Speaker 2: foreign policy, although I'm a little concerned about Ukraine. And
Speaker 2: also what was the other issue that oh in energy independence,
Speaker 2: which underpins virtually the entire economy. Didn't even mention that
Speaker 2: issue versus Trump sometimes wants to issue orders they go
Speaker 2: around Congress.
Speaker 4: Okay, Trump's doing Joe Rogan on Friday. He doesn't need to.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of surprised. I think he's doing it to
Speaker 4: try to you know, cause there was Taka Kamala doing
Speaker 4: it and she has I was just gonna ask what
Speaker 4: happened with him. Yeah, so I think he's doing Rogan
Speaker 4: to try to have it. Okay, I did Rogan, You're
Speaker 4: gonna do Rogan. You know she tried the same thing
Speaker 4: with sixty minutes. I can give you an example of
Speaker 4: why maybe he didn't do sixty minutes. This thing from
Speaker 4: the CBS Evening News from the other night. Give you
Speaker 4: an idea how biased they are. It's crazy. Among other
Speaker 4: things we've got coming up, listen to this.
Speaker 11: Tonight, in Detroit, at a Harris campaign event, Eminem introduced
Speaker 11: former President Obama. Eminem and Obama yep, and between them
Speaker 11: the average out to talking at a normal speed.
Speaker 2: Mom's spaghetti.
Speaker 4: I found that amusing. Oh so I just went back
Speaker 4: and watched a little of the morning version of the
Speaker 4: political podcast I watched, where they re brought up the
Speaker 4: fact that there's a story floating out there about Trump
Speaker 4: that would end his campaign. Mark Alprin doesn't believe it's real.
Speaker 4: No other outlet has picked it up either. I can't
Speaker 4: imagine what that would be because Trump has had so
Speaker 4: many actual things occur that he's weathered easily, because I
Speaker 4: think he's gonna get elected again. Can't imagine what would
Speaker 4: be so strong it would end his campaign, you know,
Speaker 4: a week out when he's winning.
Speaker 2: What could it possibly be?
Speaker 4: Anyway, they also mentioned there's a story out there floating
Speaker 4: around about Tim Walls that would end his campaign regarding
Speaker 4: something to do with ties to Russia that they also
Speaker 4: believe is not true. But the point being that there's
Speaker 4: gonna be a bunch of stuff coming in this last
Speaker 4: dozen days or so from all kinds of places, including
Speaker 4: Russia and China and Iran. We all need to remember
Speaker 4: that even if it's something that helps our favorite candidate,
Speaker 4: we do not want our enemies influencing our elections.
Speaker 2: That ain't good, right, right, just stirring the pot in
Speaker 2: general worth mentioning. Speaking of dishonest stories, we featured the
Speaker 2: ad yesterday of a nice old lady right before NBC
Speaker 2: News saying Donald Trump keeps talking about cutting Social Security.
Speaker 2: I need that money to live.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Trump hasn't uttered a word about cutting Social Security. In fact,
Speaker 2: the opposite.
Speaker 4: I wish he would.
Speaker 2: So that's how dishonest it is now at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so many official stuff is dishonest and misleading, as
Speaker 4: it always has been in politics and always will be.
Speaker 4: And then you got who knows what story's floating around
Speaker 4: and uh so many pointing out Jeffrey Goldberg may have
Speaker 4: just finished his journalism on the whole Trump Hitler story
Speaker 4: and it came out today.
Speaker 2: But probably not come on to give you an idea.
Speaker 2: He was shouting at his staff. We've got to wrap
Speaker 2: up this Trump Hitler thing. It's mid October and we
Speaker 2: just got the start. No stop it.
Speaker 4: Nazi Germany prey meditated to give you an idea how
Speaker 4: all in the mainstream media is for one side or another.
Speaker 4: This is from Monday Evenings CBS Evening News with Nora O'Donnell.
Speaker 4: She was one of the moderators from the last debate,
Speaker 4: and so this is covering a whole big week, you know,
Speaker 4: second to last weekend before the presidential election, lots of
Speaker 4: campaigning going on. Here's how she summarizes both candidates.
Speaker 12: A selection day is just over two weeks away, and
Speaker 12: the fight for every single last undecided vote in battleground
Speaker 12: states is intensifying. Vice President Kamala Harris's targeting disaffected Republican
Speaker 12: voters by hitting the trail with Liz Cheney in the
Speaker 12: crucial blue wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Cheney
Speaker 12: was a powerful Republican congresswoman and today she called Harris
Speaker 12: a responsible adult. As for former President Donald Trump, he
Speaker 12: was back in North Carolina again pushing false claims about
Speaker 12: FEMA and immigrants, as after he spent the weekend slinging
Speaker 12: a crude insult at Harris, engaging in lewd locker room
Speaker 12: talk about the late golfing legend Arnold Palmer, and staging
Speaker 12: a campaign stunt at a Pennsylvania McDonald's.
Speaker 4: That is almost impossible to believe that it actually happened
Speaker 4: to that level.
Speaker 2: If that had been written by the DNC. How would
Speaker 2: it have been different.
Speaker 4: I don't think it would be at all, unless they
Speaker 4: might have said that's too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to ease up. It's too obvious. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I'll see you, Nora O'Donnell's big hair and I'll raise
Speaker 2: you Lester Holt's sonorous voice.
Speaker 1: Same night tonight, the race for the White House, both
Speaker 1: candidates blitzing the battlegrounds were just fifteen days to go,
Speaker 1: with Poles showing a dead heat. Vice President Kamala Harrison,
Speaker 1: former President Donald Trump going all in on swing states,
Speaker 1: Mister Trump criss crossing North Carolina, repeating falsehoods about the
Speaker 1: response to Hurricane Helene and declining to denounce violent threats
Speaker 1: to FEMA workers Wow, and Trump's supporter Elon Musk, raising
Speaker 1: concerns by offering million dollar giveaways to voters. Miss Harris
Speaker 1: today barnstorming three battlegrounds Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin alongside Republican
Speaker 1: Liz Cheney. Why Cheney says even women who are anti
Speaker 1: abortion like she is, should back Miss Harris.
Speaker 4: On freaking Believe Tonight on the Kamala News Network, What
Speaker 4: you just heard unbelievable. I could write in like a minute,
Speaker 4: the opposite way to handle that, and it would be
Speaker 4: just as true, or a neutral one, or a neutral
Speaker 4: one if you wanted to be a journalist. God, that
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