1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: What's patrol in my borders? I'm Robert Evans hosted Behind 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: the Bastards. This is Behind the Bastards, the podcast We'll 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: tell you bad people talk about them. Katie Stole, Cody Johnson, 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: how are you guys? Quick answer your question? Racist patrol 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: your border? Yes they are. Whether or not they're in 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: border patrol. Actually it doesn't matter pretty much from the 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: top down. Um boy, you know, uh sure, seems like 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: is going to be the worst year of everyone's life, 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: the worst year. I could I could agree more, but 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: I'll this degree. What do we agree with you completely? 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: What if we? What if we? What have we spitballing here? 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: What if we produced a weekly podcast through the entirety 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: of the election talking about the stuff people are leaving out, 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: going to places other people don't go to the conventions? Yeah, 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: avoiding mentioning, you know, because the president so much about 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: talking about policies, policies, important things people left behind, maybe 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: injecting methamphetamine into our butts and going to see pack. 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: What do we did that everything? Cory? You think we 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: should do that? I think we should do it on 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: the spot. Sure, okay, cool? You know what I what 21 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: I what I love doing, and what's super professional it's 22 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: holding holding pitch meetings like this at the start of 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: my show where the magic happens and we're actually legally 24 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: forbidden from talking, not on microphones to each other. This 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: is the only place we can have this. I've had 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: mine implanted, so which very cool move. Everything's check out 27 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: our other podcast just catching up with each other's friends. 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: We have to record. So my my nighttime sleeping snore 29 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: sounds has really taken off. I think the Cody and 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: I discuss our Sciatica episode. It's really it's really good. Yeah, 31 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: I've got some good stretches for you guys. Good. Yeah, 32 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: that's the title of another episode. Well we're doing that. 33 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: Is that our soft way of saying we're going to 34 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: do that. We're going to do a weekly podcast about 35 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: the election called the Worst Year every One's Life? Yeah, 36 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: get ready, guy, this is gonna happen. Check it out. 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Check it out for not even particularly close to now, 38 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: but but like sometime we look forward to some time 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: in the Q three is maybe que for the Worst 40 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: year of Everybody's life with you. Hooray. That sounds great. 41 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: You know what else sounds great is I doubt are 42 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: the surely crippling. I was going to say, the surely 43 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: crippling addictions that we will inculcate covering this nightmare of 44 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: an election. Are they going to be worse than my 45 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: already existing addiction? They have to be. I've already checked 46 00:02:53,680 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: myself into rehab for December. Cool. Yeah, And I've already 47 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: started asking random guys under bridges if they have adderall. 48 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: So this is this is where fantastic we are at this. 49 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: Look at this team. You know what, and I've been 50 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: stockpiling Ben's a green in Hailer's. You just pop those 51 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: things out, drop them in your water, and that's that's 52 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: that's seventies speed right there, profession doing it right, Sophie, 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna be some sort of hand signal. Oh, we 54 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: have a we have a show to do that people 55 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: tuned in wanting to hear more about the racists of 56 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: the border. I guess we could get the show. Fine. Fine. 57 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Chris Simcox was the first person to tap effectively into 58 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: a very particular chunk of the American conservative consciousness. People 59 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: had tried to run volunteer border militias before, and there 60 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: had been militias for decades, but no one had managed 61 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: to make that sort of behavior go mainstream because all 62 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: the prior leaders of those sorts of movements had been 63 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: insane people, outright Nazis or insane outright not Chris Simcox 64 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: was a clean cut, all American looking guy. He helped 65 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the militia movement go mainstream. Here's the Nation co wote, 66 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: thank you, Cody. As the Republican Party has fractured over immigration, 67 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Simcox has become a hero of the build a Wall 68 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: to portum All faction of the GOP. Earlier this year, 69 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: he shed his camouflage fatigues for a suit and tie 70 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: as a featured panelist at the Conservative Political Action Conference 71 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. The nation's largest gathering of conservative 72 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: political activists, and increasing portion of his time has spent 73 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: at fundraisers and forums far away from the border. He 74 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: once sword a afend by any means necessary. Chris had 75 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: enough charisma to be able to effectively work a crowd. 76 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: That Nation article recounts a speech he gave during our 77 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: Republican Party fundraiser at Wild Bills, a nightclub in Atlanta. 78 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: I want you to remember, as I read this, that 79 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: had happened all the way back in two thousand and six, 80 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: the odor of pulled pork spread a mighty tang as 81 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: members of Georgians for Immigration Reduction hawked t shirts bearing 82 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: the image of a snarling bald above the slogan ill Eagles, 83 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: foul up my country. One fucking guests, how foul spell. 84 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: I desperately want one of those shirts. I will wear 85 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: it every day. That's what I'll wear to sea packs. Yeah, 86 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: the internet you have to wear that. Well, Oh my god, 87 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: I will wear it for the four days before seapack, 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: so it's like filthy and then we'll shoot math amphetamine 89 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: into our butts and the sea pack. It's going to 90 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: be amazing. I'm gonna have so many landyards by then, 91 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: so good. Alright, you can talk about I'm excited about 92 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: all the lanyards. The crowd warmed up for Simcox by 93 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: listening to The Right Brothers, a country rock duo builds. 94 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Sean Hanney show put to me that's they're not They're billing. 95 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: That's what they want to be there. That's not a description. 96 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking them up. I'm not even through the paragraph 97 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: and there's tears in my eyes. We're still talking about 98 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: the Right Brothers. One on Black sombrero with gold tessels 99 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: have dedicated a song called the Illegals to Chris Simcox. 100 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: The not so catchy chorus tell me why do we 101 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: allow the illegals? After all, they're illegal? So why do 102 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: we allow the illegals to keep on coming? In? Ryan 103 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: Illegal with illegal? That's so bad? Oh my gosh, what insane. 104 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: That's so perfect, because like it's it's so bad in 105 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: so many ways because like obviously the message is like, well, 106 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: that's not good. That's Sean Hannity's show. But then like 107 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: rhyming illegal fielding over. It's so inelegance, Like, oh yeah, 108 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: the other aspect of Sean Hannity. Yeah, he's really dominated 109 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: that inelegant. Incredible, amazing. As the music faded, Simcocks strolled 110 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: onto stage to raucous cheers. America's top vigilante spoke slowly 111 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: and with a hint of condescension, almost as if addressing 112 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: a room full of five year olds. When you put 113 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: blend lawnchairs on the border, an amazing thing happens. Simcox said, 114 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: no one comes across. As he spoke, giant screens behind 115 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: him displayed ghostly night vision images of immigrants marching through 116 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: the desert water jugs piled beneath a mesquite tree and 117 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: the decomposing corpses of desert crossers. What what the fudge? 118 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: It sounds like he's a cool guy. Cool dude, it 119 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: sounds like he is a guy. Yeah. You see all 120 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: those videos of like migrants a crossing the border and 121 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: they the border patrol and they're dying, empt dehydrated, and 122 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: then you see the border patrol agents take jugs of 123 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: water and pour them out in front of the sounds 124 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: like something nice people do, cool people. Okayeh, I just 125 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: want to I just want to make sure Okay, yeah, 126 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean that we we we should at some point 127 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: do an episode on the terrible things the border patrol 128 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: is spect like, they're just there's there's a lot to 129 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: talk about. With the individually focus, they just head on 130 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: a swive. Christ Jesus Christ. Now it was the early 131 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: odds rolled along. Chris Simcox became more controversial within his group. 132 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: Many accused him of taking donations to finance his own lifestyle. 133 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: Here in the nickname the Little Prince, for allegedly being 134 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: a complete prick and control freak, for being a little 135 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: French boy at a little a little lord yeah, nice, 136 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: not necessarily. Actually, it's for a mediocre We'll make a 137 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: T shirt out of it. Yeah, but I'm not going 138 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: to throw the bagels over that. I understand, which right 139 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: now since I mentioned them. I don't know if you've 140 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: heard of czech Ov's gun, but yeah, m hm uh yeah. 141 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: As a result, the miniment splintered more and more. This 142 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: was not entirely a bad thing. More than fifty different 143 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: groups eventually formed all around the US, and for years 144 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: they held regular border patrolling events. Most of these were 145 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: on the US Mexico border, but Chris's Minuteman chapter did 146 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: send a few guys up to the Canadian border to 147 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: sit in lawn chairs and watch for dastardly Canadian infiltrators. 148 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: I think the only people they caught were Americans trying 149 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: to sneak into Canada. At its peak, the Minutement Project 150 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: had more than twelve thousand members, and that was just 151 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: in the main official group. Gil Kristen Simcox remained the 152 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: primary faces of the movement, but starting in two thousand six, 153 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: they began to share the stage with someone else, a 154 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: forty one year old woman named Shawna Ford. Y'all heard 155 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: of SHAWNA. Ford. You're talking about to she Afford or 156 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: just person for no, no, no, she's not at all 157 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: related to the motor Company's spelled different too. There's an 158 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: e at the end. Ford's first operation was actually one 159 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: of the watches in the U. S. Canada border, which 160 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: was close to her home at the time, Bellingham, Washington. 161 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: After the watch, she wound up at a party at 162 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: the home of Bob Damron, the Washington State Minuteman leader. 163 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: While everyone was eating dinner, she was caught alone in 164 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: the Damron's bedroom looking through a dresser for pain pills. 165 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: She was kicked out of the house, but allowed to 166 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: remain in the group. This is because Seanna was kind 167 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: of a superstar minuteman or woman or whatever whatever term 168 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: you want to use. A minute person. She showed up 169 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: at every event, and she was the kind of person 170 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: who just sort of dominated any conversations she was in 171 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: in such a way that within a few weeks she'd 172 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: become one of the most prominent members of the group. 173 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: She was especially active on the minutement email list the line. 174 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: According to The Herald, a local Washingtonian news source, quote 175 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: in length the August six emails, she described being attacked 176 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: by a group of men she said they were Mexicans 177 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: outside of a Seattle Starbucks. The men were enraged after 178 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: seeing signs against immigration piled inside her car. Ford wrote 179 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: about finding herself face to face with a pair of 180 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: dark brown eyes filled with pure hate. One man, she wrote, 181 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: wanted to rape me or kill me, probably both. Just 182 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: before the confrontation got physical, though, Ford said she was 183 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: saved by a group of US Army soldiers in uniform 184 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: who happened to be in the area. Could everybody clap? 185 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure they all clapped, I'll say, in a little 186 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: bit of defense to her, I have seen a of U. S. 187 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: Army soldiers in full uniform in well U. S. Navy 188 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: in Seattle during Fleetwheek. But they were all so drunk 189 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: they couldn't stay and trying to funk everything that moved 190 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: as Marines and maybe personnel do so she maybe like 191 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: got her signals crossed and like misinterpreted what they were 192 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: showing up for. Yeah, yeah, I mean this is all 193 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: I Yeah, I mean I feel like yeah, because I'm 194 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: gonna guess like Seattle's racial makeup being it what it 195 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: is like any group of Hispanics, and that like city 196 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: are probably like members of the U. S. Military. As 197 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: you were saying that, I was like, I bet someone 198 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: with brown eyes. One person saw her sign was like 199 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: hey man, that's not cool and was shouting about it 200 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: as someone was like, that's your bad person. And then 201 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of horny sailors came up and was like, 202 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: anybody here you know that's that's the grain of truth 203 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: I got from that. Yeah, is literally anything bothering you 204 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: right now? I know what I'll make you feel better 205 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: because I'm drunk. Is fucking it's fleet week. It's a 206 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: fun time. Oh, it's time for ads also for the Navy. 207 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: That was the Sean Hannity of transitions. Anyway, it's adds 208 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: time join the Navy. Get drunk in Seattle. We're back. 209 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: We were just we were just talking off off Mike 210 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: about cool political ideals we have u that you could 211 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: hear about on the hypothetical podcast that's definitely coming if 212 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: we if we definitely probably are gonna for sure do that. Yeah, 213 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: well we'll definitely most likely absolutely be talking about what 214 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: we just talked about, and you guys can tune in 215 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: that that it wasn't recorded. It was weird that it 216 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: wasn't recorded. Let's talk about Sean A Ford some more. Yeah, Um, 217 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: Seanna became quickly the minutments de facto spokeswoman, regularly talking 218 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: to rest on behalf of the organization. This did not 219 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: go over super well with all of the actual leadership 220 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: of the group, who felt that Shannon was basically just 221 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: shouting her way into power. Gil Christ Simcox and the 222 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: organization's other leadership got together and voted to fire her. 223 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: Bob Damron was instructed to actually do the deed in 224 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: November of two thousand six, after she finished participating in 225 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: a local television town council discussion on illegal immigration. D'amaron 226 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: later recalled I told her I was told to fire her. 227 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: I also told her I couldn't do it. Shaken Ford 228 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: drove home, or she tried to, but she rammed a 229 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: guardrail in her Honda Civic and was taken to the 230 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: hospital with minor injuries. This much we can confirm the 231 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Washington State Patrols that she crashed when a truck which 232 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: was obeying all the rules of the road, pulled in 233 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: front of her. The state patrol seems to put the 234 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: blame on her for driving like a ship heead, but 235 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: in Ford's recitation of events, the truck drivers ran her 236 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: off the road, and of course they were Mexican. Yeah, 237 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: she's she's, yeah, I can't take responsibility for themselves. It's cool, 238 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: especially when they become part of a heavily armed militia. 239 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: That's the best thing. Those the best kinds of responsible people. 240 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: She trying to end it all. I don't know. I 241 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: think she was trying to have a minor car accident 242 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: so she could claim Mexicans were trying to murder her. 243 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: Those drivers were Mexican. He did not none at all. Yeah. Yeah. 244 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: Driving forty or fifty thousand miles a year as I do, 245 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: especially up in the Pacific Northwest, I don't see a 246 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: lot of truck drivers who aren't old white dudes. But 247 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: she seems to run into them. All. Yeah, she does 248 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: seem to run into the mall. This attempt on her 249 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: life was enough to delay Forwards firing in January. To 250 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: them seven, she took the opportunity to approach Chris Simcox directly. 251 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: She told him that her States Mintment Group leaders were 252 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: shitty and disorganized. She said she could do better when 253 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: she had a whole plan laid out for how to 254 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: fix things. Simcox promoted her to a state level leadership position. 255 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: Seana took to leadership like a dog takes to a 256 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: fahita that fell on the floor. She quickly came up 257 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: with new stories of assassination attempts against her, including the 258 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: claim that she had been shot in the arm during 259 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: another attack by dastardly villains of vaguely Hispan origin. She 260 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: told anyone who listened that she fully expected to die 261 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: for the cause. All this impressed Jim Gilchrist. In early 262 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, he made her the Minuteman Projects 263 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Border Patrol coordinator. She moved to Arizona and started her 264 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: own independent men and man group called Minutemen Against American Defense. 265 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: When she was kicked out of the original Minuteman group 266 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: shortly after moving down to Arizona for being a crazy person, 267 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: gil Chris sent her volunteers though, calling her one tough lady, 268 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: and soon she had around twenty armed volunteers at her 269 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: beck and call in her own personal little minute man Militia. 270 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: Ford began to claim that she'd started an undercover operation 271 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: to infiltrate drug dealers on the border. Gil Chris started 272 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: to worry that she was going to get murdered, which 273 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: seems to have been her goal. Throughout two thousand eight, 274 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Shanna Ford took to calling Kathy Dameron, Bob's wife at 275 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: all hours of the day and night, claiming that her 276 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: life was in danger and shadowy figures were hunting her. 277 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: Shanna would regularly cut the call suddenly just to make 278 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: things seem even scarier. I'm gonna say real quick, she 279 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: seems like a toxic friend that you don't want to 280 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: have in your life, a real energy dream. I think 281 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: people would be well served to just cut that tie 282 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: on anyway, some meatorializing. In November two eight, Ford emailed 283 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: Kathy photos of drugs and money she claimed to have 284 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: found at an Arizona stash house. Photo solidified her reputation 285 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: to other minutemen Shanna Ford was out there fighting the 286 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: real war on the border. This image was buoyed when 287 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: her ex husband was shot by an intruder in their Everett, 288 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: Arizona home that December. The case is still unsolved, and 289 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: the next week Shanna went to the police and claimed 290 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: that a Latino gang had raped her. That case was 291 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: eventually dropped due to a lack of evidence. In January, 292 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Ford called Kathy and in mid call, claimed to have 293 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: suddenly been shot. Kathy did not hear any gunfire over 294 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: the line. Why is somebody gun violence and so much 295 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: fake gun? What happened to her husband? We don't Yeah, yeah, 296 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: he's fine, he's fine. Did she shoot her husband? I 297 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: don't know. He shot himself? Seems like something like she 298 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: shot her husband, and I mean home invasions do happen, 299 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: but like, yeah, just given everything else, seems like it 300 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: might have been literally everything else up exactly. Yeah. So 301 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: that phone call, which was super sketchy, and the fact 302 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: that Shanna stole Cathy's pain pills whenever she visited and 303 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: made the Dammaron slowly stopped trusting her. Cameron sounds like 304 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: a pill to take. I mean, demeroll is fucking awesome. 305 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: Um here's how Cathy relates Shanna reacting when she got 306 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: caught pill handed. She said, I've been busted, haven't I? 307 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: I said, yes, you have. She said, I'm sorry, Mom. 308 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: I said not good enough, So mom, Yeah, I think 309 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: that was like her nickname or she was being a 310 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: kid disturbed by this relationship. You're about to be disturbed her. 311 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: In February two thousand, eight, Harold published an article revealing 312 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: that Shanna had a history of childhood felonies. They went 313 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: to Jim Gilchristopher comment. His initial response was actually pretty reasonable, 314 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: saying he respected her for turning her life around, and 315 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: then he said this, She is no winer. She is 316 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: a stoic struggler who has chosen to put country, community 317 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: and yearning for a civilized society ahead of avarice and 318 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: self glorifying ego. In two thousand nine, stoic struggler Shauna 319 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: Ford cooked up a plan. She had identified someone she 320 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: believed to be a drug dealer in Aravaca, a small 321 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: border town. Shanna reasoned that this monster was getting drugs 322 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: from Mexico. If she robbed him and took his drugs 323 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: and money, she could use them to fund the expansion 324 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: of her border militia Solid galaxy brain plan. Right, and 325 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: the drugs because she ran out of her friend's pills. Yeah, 326 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, he stops drug dealers rubbing them. That's the 327 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: one thing that I'm out we've all seen breaking bad. 328 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: In mid May, Shanna traveled to Colorado to recruit to 329 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: recruit a few good men to help her carry out 330 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: this scheme. Here's how Tucson dot com describes what happened next. 331 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: At that meeting, in a truck stop near Denver, Ford 332 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: drew a map. It wasn't specific, pointing to an individual house, 333 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: but it gave a generic impression of the area. She 334 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: meant to hit Ron Wido and Robert Copley, two of 335 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: them and she was recruiting. Kept the map and handed 336 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: it over to Chris Anderson, an FBI agent in Colorado, 337 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: for whom they were at his informants. This is where 338 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: the bureaucratic problems happened. Anderson said he passed the information 339 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: to the FBI in Phoenix. The FBI in Phoenix apparently 340 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: did nothing. Eventually, it even destroyed the map. On two 341 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: thousand nine, Shawna Ford and two of her militiamen showed 342 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: up after midnight at the home of Raoul Flora's Gina Gonzalez, 343 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: and their nine year old daughter, Brassenia. Shawna and her 344 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: men posed as border patrol officers. They accused Flora's of 345 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: harboring the legal immigrants and told him his house was surrounded. 346 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Flora's let them in, thinking there were cops. Shanna believed 347 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: that Raul was a drug dealer, so she started combing 348 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: his home for drugs in cash. There was only one problem, 349 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: Raoul was not a drug smuggler. His house had nothing 350 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: valuable in it, so Shauna and her men stole Jina's jewelry. 351 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: Then they executed Raoul Flora's with a gun shot to 352 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: the chest. They shot his wife next three times, and 353 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: while she begged for her life, they blew nine year 354 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: old Brassenia's head off. Now, Gina survived the gun shots 355 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: and played dead until Shauna and her men left. Then 356 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: she got up, called nine one one and grabbed her 357 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: husband's shotgun. For some reason, Wanna and her people re entered, 358 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: probably planning to search another part of the house for drugs. 359 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Gina opened fire, wounding one of the gunmen and causing 360 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: them all to run like the gutless ship stains. They 361 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: were cool. Wow that really Yeah, Yeah, it's the it's 362 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the only logical extent of what these 363 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: people are doing. Oh we didn't find we need I'm 364 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: gonna kill you. Yeah. The big bar in our Avoca, 365 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: like the center of this little town, like has signs 366 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: that like specifically saying no militia, like no border patrol 367 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: like fake people are allowed in the bar, like we 368 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: we we don't want any of this fucking bullshit anymore. 369 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: For all the stuff we talked about, theological progression, and 370 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: it's like the people they claim to be protecting who 371 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: live on the border and actually despise all the people 372 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: doing this because they just bring trouble and they're undisciplined, 373 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: violent nuts. Yeah, Shanna and her compatriots were all convicted 374 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: of murder. Shauna was sentenced to death in two thousand eleven. 375 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Gina also sued the FBI for having clear evidence that 376 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Shauna Ford planned to violently attack people and doing nothing 377 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: with it. The ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 378 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: that she had no grounds to sue for this. According 379 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: to Tucson dot Com, the argument that really stuck was 380 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: that under the Federal Tort Claims Act, the federal government 381 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: can't be sued over the exercise or performance or failure 382 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: to exercise or perform a discretionary function or duty. The 383 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: decision of whether or not to notify local law enforcement 384 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: was a discretionary act, she said in her decision. They're 385 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: not required to let law enforcement know that someone's planning 386 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: a violent break in of a house. Are they can 387 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: be policy? Yes, that sounds like a terrible policy if 388 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: they were allowed to do this, What if they were 389 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: required to tell local law enforcement? When enough with the 390 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: militia is talking about attacking people's homes and drawing maps 391 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: well of where she plans to hit. I don't have 392 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: the names of these the current militia situation going on 393 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: the names of people. So I'm talking generally. But the 394 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: leader will get to that. We'll get to that. Okay, 395 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: I'll save it then, but it ties in with this. Sorry, 396 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: that's okay, okay. So in two thousand ten, the year 397 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: before Shauna's trial, Chris Simcox ran for Senate. He's a 398 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: little picture, Chris Simcox, Get the funk out of here, 399 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: Chris Simcox. I trust that guy, You trust him? Yeah. 400 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: He was attacked from the right for his seemingly moderate 401 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: views on illegal immigrants. Chris had started to support adding 402 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: a new pathways for citizenship to make immigration easier for 403 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: people fleeing desperate circumstances, with whom he claimed to sympathize. 404 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: He was also attacked for the m c d c's 405 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: financial irregularities, chief among them the fact that hundreds of 406 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars, maybe millions of dollars had probably been 407 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: funneled directly into his pocket in spite of the fact 408 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: that he officially drew no salary. Weirdly, what wasn't a 409 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: huge issue was that, as early as two thousand five, 410 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: the Southern Poverty Law Center had reported that Simcox's first 411 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: ex wife had accused him of trying to sexually molest 412 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: their fourteen year old daughter. Not long after that, his 413 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: second ex wife accused him a violent abusive behavior. She 414 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: testified in court that he once took a knife from 415 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: the kitchen and threatened to kill himself. When he was angry, 416 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: he broke furniture. Carwin does, he banged his head against 417 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: the wall repeatedly and punched things. Simcox repeatedly vehemently denied 418 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: all allegations. He continued to do so right up until 419 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: the moment. In June of two thousand and thirteen, he 420 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: was arrested on multiple counts of molesting and raping several 421 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: of his own daughters. Here's the Phoenix New Times quote. 422 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: Two of the daughters who took the stand are under 423 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: the age of ten. Both of his children with ex 424 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: wife Elina Simcox. One of them alleges sexual abuse. The 425 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: third daughter is an adult, his child from her previous marriage, 426 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: who alleges that Simcox molested her on three separate occasions 427 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: when she was young. I'm so angry, cool dude, Chris 428 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Simcos patriot. Yep, this is a part. I don't know. 429 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Yeah, it's so gross. Yeah, 430 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into detail about what Chris did, 431 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: other than to say that this border patrol and clean 432 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: shaven conservative patriot repeatedly sexually assaulted his own daughters, and 433 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: two dozen sixteen, he was sentenced to nineteen and a 434 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: half years in prison, should have been forty, with shaann 435 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: A convicted of murder and Chris convicted of serrid child molestation. 436 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Jim Kilchris was left at the as the only Minuteman 437 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: leader not in prison for committing numerous horrific crimes, and 438 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: he's still active. A two thousand sixteen Vice article caught 439 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: up with gil Christ. He told him he takes credit 440 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: for the conservative obsession with border control that metastasized into 441 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: the presidency of Donald Trump and his wall. Jim also 442 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: resurrected the Minutemen back in two thousand and fourteen after 443 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: his co founder was arrested for being a pedophile. So 444 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: the Minute Men are still a presence in American political discourse. 445 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: That said, time has largely moved past them. And we're 446 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: going to talk about what time has moved on towards. 447 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: But first we're going to talk about products services. And 448 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: you know what, I forgot to do this, but I'm gonna. 449 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna act on my anger over the 450 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: crimes of Chris and Talks and SHAWNA. Ford by tossing 451 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: the bagel. Good on you for moving those greats. And 452 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna look at where I tossed it, 453 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: so this could be real bad. No, they just came 454 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: right back, almost perfect. That was a blind throw. Proud 455 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: of me, Sophie. So if he's out of me, you 456 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: know what else is proud of me? The sponsors of 457 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: this show Products. We're back. We're having a conversation. Then 458 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: I interrupted it by saying we're back, and act of 459 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: cruelty to our our our engineer Daniel, who's done nothing 460 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: but be helpful to me, and bash Taylor Swift and 461 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: bash Taylor Swift. Um, So I have these bagels and 462 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: I've been tossing them. We have these soundboards on the 463 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: wall that that act to bounce sound around Somehow, I 464 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: don't understand what they're for. I've been tossing them mostly, 465 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: which is why it's been bouncing back. To me, it 466 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: makes sense. But we also have on the end of 467 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: this recording studio, for reasons that are inexplicable to me, 468 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: a glass door leading out to a porch, which is 469 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: not standard in most recording studios. I'm gonna try chucking 470 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: them as hard as I can at the glass door, 471 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: just to see what happens. No, it's happening. So satisfying sound. 472 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: That was a good sound. This is gonna be great 473 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: on the podcast. Content him around here. He can do 474 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: what he wants. Yes, the people who built that like 475 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: sound proof that porch sealed it with toxic chemicals and 476 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: didn't let it off. One thing we're not allowed to 477 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: do is throw bagels at that door. The door to 478 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: the like walled off porch in our recording studio is 479 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: filled with poison. This is such a great studio. Yeah, 480 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: it keeps on your toes. The problem I might throw 481 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: him again, Yeah, what do you might? Well, you know, 482 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Anderson fear is the mind killer, the little death that 483 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: causes me to throw bagels. I think that's how it was. Yeah, 484 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: that's the it was from doing right. Yeah, so it 485 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: goes a big bagel fan frank herbet Okay, so bagel 486 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: hard right, Yes, we'll keep onto the so. As I said, 487 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: time has moved past the minutement, but their influence echoes 488 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: and much of what's going on right now at the border. 489 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: In May of two thousand eighteen, Michael Meyer, founder of 490 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: a militia called Veterans on Patrol, posted a video of 491 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: himself walking through a homeless encampment in Tucson. Like Chris Simcox, 492 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: Michael gave the government an ultimatum they had until noon 493 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: tomorrow to investigate the site. According to BuzzFeed quote, He 494 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: then turned the camera around towards a tree with straps 495 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: attached to it, declaring this is a rape tree. Meyer 496 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: painted a grim picture. The straps on the tree were 497 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: not used to secure parts of a makeshift homeless encampment. Instead, 498 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: there were restraints for holding children in place where they 499 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: were sexually abused by cartel members. He claimed the space 500 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: dug into the ground was in fact a prison cell 501 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: for the children, and various other items of trash and 502 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: debris at the site proved to Meyer that six ship 503 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: had been going on there. This is a child sex 504 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: trafficking camp that no one wants to talk about, that 505 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: no one wants to do anything about. Said, what is 506 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: tha get his information into? Where it gets his information? 507 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: The video quickly racked up hundreds of thousands of views, 508 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: and Myer's claims were even repeated by a number of 509 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: local news stations, and for Wars and other similar conspiracy 510 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: outlets were happy to run with the tail, and it 511 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: quickly got woven into the broader Pizza gate Q and 512 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: on family of conspiracies. But the idea of rape trees 513 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: did not start with Meyer. Here's a video child murderer SHAWNA. 514 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: Ford posted in two thousand nine. Yeah, Sean Fox, there's 515 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: a coyote who uses this very specific trail. This is 516 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: his territory. He brings his people through here and they'll 517 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: pick out who they want out of the group. They'll 518 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: bring him to a separate location. They will rape them. 519 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: They will rip their underwear off and take their braws off. 520 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: They make them leave them behind, and then they throw 521 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: them on trees. That's a trophy. Women do not leave 522 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: their garments laying around. Most women, Come on, girls, we 523 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: all know that we tuck them and put them away somewhere, 524 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: and we're not just going to throw them out. It 525 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're out in the middle the wilderness 526 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: or not. Women tend to be very more us with 527 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: their undergarments. So what a traditional lay up side is 528 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: is backpacks, clothing changes, just all kinds of items here. 529 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: No backpacks, no male items, nothing, that's a traditional layup. 530 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: So this is a genuine rape tree in a genuine 531 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: rape spot. Are rape trees historically a thing? I mean 532 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: outside of a true detective Season one. Her evidence is 533 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: that women tend to be modest. That's your evidence. That's 534 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: their child and disciple of a pedophile. I take my 535 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: bra off and leave it places whenever I can. Unbelievable, 536 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: these weirdos, I think, I think the word you're looking 537 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: for a psychopath. These people, there's such a bizarre cross 538 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: section of the like obsession with like there's like a 539 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 1: kids sex cult going on. Also there's them grant thing, 540 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: but also it's like a kid's sex and also also 541 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: the government is in on it. And I'm gonna molest 542 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: my own kids, a child. People, but like these people, 543 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: the people, it's sick, cults of sex. Shad, who ordered 544 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: the execution style murder of a nine year old, worried 545 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: about rape trees. According to Harrold Shapira, author of a 546 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: book about vigilante border patrols, quote for the minutement, the 547 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: rape trees are a powerful symbol of the Mexican males 548 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: immorality and simultaneously imbute their own actions with valor. By 549 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: patrolling the border, the volunteers are not just defending America 550 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: but women, and not just American women, but all women, 551 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: even the ones who are illegal until they shoot him 552 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: in until they until they try to execute them. But 553 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: because she's a badass, she finds them off with a shotgun, 554 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: which is it's terrible, it's and it's the worst thing 555 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: that can possibly have. And then they can't even do 556 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: the suit that she tried to bring. No to her sorry, 557 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: unbelievably infuriating and terrible. In October of two thousand seventeen, 558 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: the FBI Public Access Line received reports of militia activity 559 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: in Flora Vista, New Mexico. According to a government complaint, 560 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: which I initially found shared by activist Emily Gortchynsky on 561 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: Twitter quote. In October two seventeen, the FBI Public Access 562 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: line PAL received reports of alleged militia extremist activity in 563 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: Flora Vista, New Mexico. Information was conveyed relating to a 564 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: group that called itself the United Constitutional Patriots, located at 565 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: Lakeside Ranch Trailer Park in Floravista, New Mexico. The United 566 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: Constitutional Patriots was led by their so called commander, Larry Hopkins, 567 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: who also went by the alias of Johnny Horton Jr. 568 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: Information was also conveyed that the group had its base 569 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: at Hopkins's residence, was supported by approximately twenty members, and 570 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: was armed with a K forty seven rifles and other firearms. 571 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: Witnesses reported seeing members of the United Constitutional Patriots bearing 572 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: firearms at Hopkins's residence. Hopskins also allegedly made the statement 573 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: that the United Constitutional Patriots were training to assassinate George Soros, 574 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama because of these individual support 575 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: of Antifa cool This story kills me when you find 576 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: evidence that a convicted felony lives in a house with 577 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: multiple firearms. Convicted felon that impersonated Yeah, just like the 578 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: people who murdered that nine year old and an innocent man. 579 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: Um when you when you hear about that these people 580 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: illegally have guns and are planning to murder a former president, 581 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: a former secretary of state, a random private person, and 582 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: presumably some ANTIFA people. What what would you what would 583 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: you guess law enforcement would do? I think in this situation, 584 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: they'd walk away for a couple of years or a 585 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: year and a half of some change, and then come 586 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: back last week and arrest him because they posted some 587 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: videos online and everybody got upset. Yeah, kind of like 588 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: how they threw away that map to where Shauna Ford 589 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: was turned to rob and murder people. Yeah, yeah, that's 590 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. The FBI just kind of moved on 591 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: with their lives and forgot about it, and believe left 592 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: left this ellen with weapons and stuff. But it comes 593 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: back to this thing. So the FBI doesn't necessarily have 594 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: to report this to law enforcements at their discretion. It's 595 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: at their discretion. But this was okay because something that 596 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: I've read is like he was like, no, no, these guns, 597 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: they all belonged to my common law wife. Yeah, he 598 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: did say that, So that's okay, thats okay, then let's 599 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: make that law. You just can't have guns in the house. Yeah, 600 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: if you're a convicted felon who pretends to be a 601 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: police officer. And they saw the videos were getting traction. Yeah. Yeah. 602 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: Almost two years later, in April of two nineteen, pictures 603 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: and video went viral of the group of heavily armed 604 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: American militiamen with a R fifteen's body armor and skull 605 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: print balaclava's stopping a group of two hundred migrants at 606 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: the border and holding them until police arrived. These men 607 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: were part of United Constitutional Patriots. Their leader was Larry Hopkins. 608 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: Hopkins claimed that they had attained fifty sid people in 609 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: the last two months. The video of their arrests went viral, 610 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: and it seems to have finally prompted the FBI to 611 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: do something about Larry Hopkins and his illegal guns. They 612 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: arrested him a few days later after the video went viral. 613 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: This is his mug shot and it's look at that beautiful. 614 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: It's quite quite the mug shot. That's talked about it 615 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: briefly on the podcast this week, and I just didn't 616 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: know how to describe it. He looks like a convicted 617 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: felon who would probably murder and rape people. He's like 618 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: sort of like washed up country singer, looks like he's 619 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: got a grocery store in Yeah, Okay, that's a really 620 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: good coach. He looks like, yeah, that's exactly right. But 621 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: his eyes will never open for more than that ever. Again. No, 622 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: he looks like who you would cast if you needed 623 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: someone to play a drunk seventy year old Elvis. Yeah. Yeah, 624 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: and they chose the nicest picture. They chose a good one. 625 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah for the press phone. So Larry is at least 626 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: behind bars for a little while, But less than a 627 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: week before the recording of this episode, something else happened 628 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: behind the bar stars. Thank you. Russell Pierce, a former 629 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: member of the Arizona State Senate, spoke at a Patriotism 630 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: over Socialism rally and Gilbert Arizona. He shared the stage 631 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: with Laura Lumer and spoke about the border crisis, noting 632 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: that it may take the shedding of blood to keep 633 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: this republic, and I, for one, am willing to do 634 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: whatever it takes. In their coverage of his remarks, Fox 635 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: News noted it was not clear what Pierce now an 636 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: employee at the Maricopa County Treasurer was speaking about, was 637 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: it not. I think I may have an idea. He's 638 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: talking about doing what Shanna Ford did on the bottom 639 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: of the do An episode on her. No, she doesn't 640 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: deserve it. It doesn't deserve it, deserve it. I mean, 641 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: Simcosh definitely is a bastard, so Shauna Ford. So I 642 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: said this before he started recording. But I do appreciate 643 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: a female bastard because, like I said before the recording, 644 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: that you guys weren't here for. I do think it's 645 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: sex as our knee jerk reaction, like or our thought 646 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: that like, oh, women are are better than men. No, 647 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: women can suck, women can suck to women can suck balls. 648 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: They can. I mean that's not bad or not necessarily, 649 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: that's a neutral. Sometimes I was using it in a 650 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: way that has nothing to do with sex. Yeah, I 651 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: was not. Yeah, I see that. I can't look at 652 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: one pump points right there right in front of you, bagels. Yeah, 653 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: oh oh, I get it now. I thought it was 654 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: purely about coffee, mate. I can't see why you think that. 655 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: I get it. Um, you probably have to cut this 656 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: out one stroke, one come I get it out. No, 657 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: we can say come on the show. I mean, I'm 658 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: hoping to get onto Cometown. I still don't know what 659 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Cometown is. Never good, great title and the come boys. 660 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: That's funny. That makes me giggle. I don't know what 661 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: it is. Don't plan to listen. I don't need to 662 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: know what I do plan to do. Toss these bagels 663 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: one last time? Now where not Sophie, But where do 664 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: the people who aren't Sophie want me to toss this 665 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: that I haven't yet Sophie, Sophie, No, I'm not. Oh 666 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: the roof. That's a good idea, because anything can happen roof. 667 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: There's there's drinks, there's computers. Oh, this is good. Glass. 668 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: It was good. They fell behind me. I was hoping 669 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: it was going to do some damage. But the next 670 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: person that walks on that glass ceiling. There is a 671 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: glass ceiling. There's class ceiling, and it freaks. There's a 672 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: glass ceiling up of the poison room recording studio. This 673 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,479 Speaker 1: is where I want to be when the big one hits, 674 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: right right between the glass ceiling and the poison room. Yeah. 675 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: I can't believe all of that's true. And none of 676 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: it's a joke. You're going to need to tweet some 677 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: pictures of all of these places. People understand what we're 678 00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: talking about. The room just don't open it, don't that? 679 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: So you guys want to plug your plug doubles. Yeah, 680 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: we got a podcast called even More News. You got 681 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: a past um and my name's Katie Stole on Twitter 682 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: and in life Cody take it Away videos series on 683 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: YouTube called some More News and that Twitter account is 684 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: some More News. And my Twitter account is dr Mr Cody. 685 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: That's d r M, I sdr c and I forget 686 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: my name. But this podcast has a Twitter and an 687 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: Instagram at Bastards Pod. It has a website behind the 688 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: Bastards dot Com. I don't think there's anything else to plug. 689 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: Sophie's not saying I should plug anything else. Well, there's 690 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: this this show that we're nil is gesturing to his shirt. 691 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: You can buy Daniel shirt if you find him on Twitter. Um, 692 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: he'll sell anything, any anything. You can also buy shirts 693 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: on t public dot com buying the Bastards. Is there 694 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: anything else? Uh? Sophie is a dog named Anderson. You 695 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: probably cannot buy um. Yeah, but you could. You could 696 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: approach her about buying the dog if you approach this 697 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter, because she runs the Twitter, because I am 698 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: not allowed to run the Twitter and should under no 699 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: circumstances that we don't need you being tweeted hey can 700 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: I buy that dog? And you're saying yes, yes, Well 701 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: that's the episode. Go what what are you? What are 702 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: you looking at? What's it could happen here? What could 703 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: happen here? Oh? I have a podcast. I have a 704 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: podcast and a dream of exasperating Sophie by pretending I'm 705 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: not going to mention it to make her frustrated because 706 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: I'm just a piece of ship. It's working, Cody's enjoying it. 707 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: That's the audience I play for here, all right, play 708 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: me out, Danial