1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to stew Gotsen Company Live podcast. Be 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday from three to 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: five pm Eastern noon to two pm. 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Find your local station for Stugotsen Company Live at Fox 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: Let's give thisun you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: If you've listened to me over the years, you know 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Mike Francesa along with Christopher mad Doug Russo the reasons 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I got into this industry. Love their show, love them, 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: and I love the friendships I've developed with both of 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: them here later on in my life. It's been very nice, 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: and Mike is nice enough to join us right now. Mike, 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: how war are you? Thank you for doing this? We 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: I'm good. How you doing? 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: I am doing good? Are you in South Florida yet? Mike? 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 4: I've been back and forth. I'm all my way back 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: to New York because the weather through this weekend and 21 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 4: Florida where I've been, it's just dreadful. It's going to 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: be thirty degrees. There's no reason to be here for 23 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: a couple of days. So I'm going on all our 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 4: way back to New York where zero, but he might 25 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 4: as well be zero there, considering it's going to be 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 4: thirty in Palm Beach this weekend. 27 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: You're right, you're coming here for sixties and seventies, not 28 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: thirties and forties, not thirty. 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: Let's start in the obvious place today with you, Mike 30 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick not elected to the Hall of Fame. 31 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: How why. 32 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 4: Silly? And again you cannot chastise him when his career 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 4: is over. Okay, the things they think they are chastising 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: him for those that did it should have been dealt 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 4: with in real terms. Okay, he should have been suspended 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: when these things happened. He wasn't, Okay, Craft made sure 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: it didn't happen. He made sure the commissioner didn't suspend him. 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: So but to take it out on him now makes 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: the institution and the voters look ridiculous because his body 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: work is such that there's nothing to discuss. Okay, he 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: is as automatic as automatic can be. But having said 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: that and having everybody go be so outraged, okay, and 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: they're gonna boycott the who cares about that nonsense? He's 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 4: gonna be over in two days. He's gonna get in 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 4: next year, and no one's gonna remember. Because I made 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: the point earlier today to someone, Hey, do you know 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: how many great baseball players didn't get it on the 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: first ballots? You know, Joe Demarchio didn't get in the 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame on the first ballot, Joki Bera, Okay, 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: Rogers Hornsby, I can go down the line, so young 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: the man won five hundred games. You didn't get in 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. People forget Okay, 53 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: No one when they're in the Hall of Fame remembers 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: what ballot they got in on. So it's a little 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: bit of a punishment. I'm sure Belichick got angry about it. 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: He probably will have some, you know, nasty words for 57 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: Bill Pollon, who seems to have led this. Okay, at 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 4: least that's the rumor. I don't know that for sure, 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 4: But the bottom line is it's much to do about 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: nothing in the long term, because before you know it, 61 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 4: he'll be in the Hall of Fame. 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 5: Mike Taylor from Rockland County First time, long time, what 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 5: do you think about people who are pointing out Bill 64 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 5: Belichick's record without Tom Brady as the reason why he 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 5: didn't get in. It was eighty three and one oh four. 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 4: You don't get to take his record apart. Okay, Sorry, 67 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: you don't get to do it. Okay, y record is 68 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: his record. Now talk to me about the two Super 69 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: Bowls he won as a coordinator and the sixty one 70 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 4: as a head coach, and then what are we discussing. Okay, 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: the man has won eight Super Bowls? How are you 72 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: gonna keep him out? And you're gonna tell me, oh, 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: he didn't do well when he was in Cleveland where 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: they were tearing the franchise out from under him, okay 75 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: and moving it in the middle of the night. All right. 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: The bottom line was, hey, he had some bad years. 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: They all do. They complain about Pawcels without Belichick. Okay, Hey, 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: Bello chick was an assistant coach, he wasn't a head coach. 79 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: Then that's Parcelvis team. Don't try to make it the 80 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: record you wanted to be. You got to take the 81 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: guys in totality and tell me in totality how he 82 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. 83 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: I tell you what to apologize. The guy who won 84 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: six Super Bowls. 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: He went to nine as a head coach. He won. 86 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: He created one of the great game plans of all time, 87 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: along with the running game, which should be mentioned because 88 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: the running game was a big part of that that 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 4: kept the ballaway from the Bills. But the Big Nickel 90 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: became very big because of what they did to the 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: Bills that year against the team has scored fifty one 92 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: points against the Raiders. The bottom line is, we know 93 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: Belichick can coach. He's not perfect, he's not a genius. 94 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: He needs a quarterback to win. Listen, here's a big headline. 95 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: No coach wins without players. When they don't have good players, 96 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 4: none of them wins. That's the bottom line. They all 97 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: need players. I don't care if it's Vince Wimbardi, Newton Rockney, 98 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: or Bear Bryant. They all need players. And when they 99 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: don't have players, they're going to struggle. When they went. 100 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: When they have players, do they win? And the answer 101 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 4: is yes. The man won six Super Bowls. 102 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight, as you know, if you want. 103 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: To what the Giants said, absolutely he was. I mean 104 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: think about that. He's been on the winning side eight times. 105 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: That's crazy, It's absolutely crazy. 106 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: What do you make of Bill Polian saying he's not 107 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: certain if he voted for Belichick or not. 108 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: Bill looks foolish. I mean the whole Listen. Bill should 109 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 4: have said I hate his guts. I think he cheated. 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 4: He would have been better off than what he said. 111 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: You are so right. You have never been more right 112 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: than you weren't just right there? 113 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: That was incredible, Mike, Yeah, you have a question here, 114 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: go ahead for the great Mike francessa I. 115 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 6: Do mikey a Connecticut first time Bill, what do you 116 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 6: what do you say to the people who say that 117 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 6: the Baseball Hall of Fame, which is one of the 118 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 6: most controversial hall of fames with their ability to draw lines, 119 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 6: this move kind of makes the NFL Hall of Fame 120 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 6: sound like the Baseball Hall of Fame, where they're not 121 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 6: doing it based on the field, They're doing it based 122 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 6: on personal preference. 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: Listen, voters, voters often look petty, looks silly in this process. 124 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: These guys, the voters and the institution, are the ones 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 4: who are going to take the hit here. Belichick's not 126 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: going to take the hit. Everyone's coming to Belichick's defense. 127 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: All the great players, every Jimmy Johnson, all the big players, 128 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: They're all coming to his defense because they know his 129 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: record is, without question, a Hall of Fame record. It's 130 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 4: not even worth discussing. Okay. The bottom line is, hey, 131 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: if you're going to be subjective about it, get out 132 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 4: of the way. I mean, it's not supposed to be 133 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: something that's subjective. It's supposed to be. Is it a 134 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: fair analysis or not? The guys the Hall of Fame, 135 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: I don't care if you hate him. I don't care 136 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 4: if you think he's jacked the ripper. He's a Hall 137 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: of Fame. Did he do things he shouldn't have done? Yes, okay. 138 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: Did he get every edge he could get? Absolutely? He's 139 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 4: not the only guy who ever cheated. I guarantee you. 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: I guarantee you a lot. But he's not the only 141 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: guy who ever cheated. 142 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: Mikey, Yeah, you want to apologize. I mean, Jesus Chris, yeah, 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: I do. 144 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 6: I have to apologe. 145 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: You know what it is. 146 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 6: I got nervous. I was talking to the Pope, I 147 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 6: was talking to my Francis Bill Belichick on the mine. 148 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: But I was nervous. Bottom line is, you know, the 149 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: bottom line is it's just silly. This was a move 150 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: that they should have realized was going to blow up 151 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 4: in their face. There was no question this was going 152 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: to blow up in their face in a big way 153 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: because his record is so far out there to the good, 154 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: there's no way to keep him out of the Hall 155 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: of Fame. 156 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: Yep, you are one hundred percent correctly, Mike. I understand 157 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: what you're saying about. Listen, he'll be in in one year. 158 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: But to a guy like Belichick, I know, but you ever, 159 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: so you know Belichick a little bit, and you obviously 160 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: know part very well. 161 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: Sick and I have never gotten along really, to be 162 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: honest with you, and you know, we just never did. 163 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: We didn't spend a lot of time together, you know, 164 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: but I was you know, we have been around each other, 165 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: especially in the Giant day. It's not so much of 166 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: the New England days. But listen, the guy had a 167 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: great career. Whether you like him, don't like him, you 168 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: don't like what he does, it doesn't matter. He's been 169 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: you know, he's not one of H's noblemen. Okay, let's 170 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: be honest, all right, That the way it is. But 171 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: he's been incredibly successful. And to me, this is one 172 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: where I'm surprised that even somebody should have stood up 173 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 4: in the room and said, hey, what going to look 174 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: like idiots? 175 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: Yes, yep, yep, so much should have done that. 176 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: But I'm wondering, Mike, because, like, don't you think the 177 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: first ballot stuff means something to a guy like Belichick? 178 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: Yes, for about three days. So here's what I've learned. 179 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: Guys who don't react to anything. Honors, Coach of the Years, etc. 180 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: They all after they've been out of the sport and 181 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: they've waited and all the awards are gone away, all 182 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: the accolades are gone away. Now comes the Hall of Fame. 183 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: It's the last one. It's the final one, and it's permanent. 184 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: You're there for history. Okay, you get to go in 185 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: the room and you're there for history. It means a 186 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: tremendous amount, more than anyone can understand. I've seen guys 187 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: so mad when they didn't get in. Players, coaches, I've 188 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 4: seen guys so hurt when they didn't get in. It's unbelievable. 189 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: I understand it. Everybody wants to get into the Hall 190 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: of Fame and their profession because it's permanent, it's there 191 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: for history, and it means a lot, and it's one 192 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: percent of the people who played or coached. It's a 193 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: tremendous achievement in any walk of life. The bottom line is, yeah, 194 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: it matters to them, and it matters a lot, and 195 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 4: it matters more after they retire, because there's no other 196 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: awards and no other accolades coming down a pipe. This 197 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: is the last one and that's why it's permanent and 198 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: it matters. There's no question. It hurts, But it hurts 199 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 4: for a couple of days because you know what he 200 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: is going to pass in a hurry. He can lose 201 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: some more games in Carolina and then you can get 202 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame. I mean, that's the bottom line. 203 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: Miked up as the podcast check it out wherever you 204 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: get your podcast, since we have you here, Mike. First second, 205 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: what'd you make of the Giant? What'd you make of 206 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: the Giants hiring John Harby? They got it right right, and. 207 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 4: It was the only possible hire they had. There was 208 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: no one else when I was looking, when he was 209 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: still in Baltimore, there was no I even said, I 210 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 4: hope something happens with John Harbin. There's been rumors he's 211 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: the perfect guy. There was no one else. McCarthey didn't 212 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 4: fit nobody else who had experienced fit. This was one 213 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: hundred percent the perfect hire, one hundred There is no 214 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: way he will not be successful with the Giants. There 215 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 4: is no possible way, Mike. 216 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 6: With the Giants appearing to having gotten it right and 217 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 6: the Jets appearing to do it all wrong in every 218 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 6: single way, I'm just curious for you. What are you 219 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 6: looking forward more to covering next season? Is it the 220 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 6: dumpster fire which has grown into like a tire fire 221 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 6: at this or is it the Giants showing signs of life. 222 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: I'm so tired now. Obviously, the Giants have been angry 223 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 4: with me many times in the past, but I have 224 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 4: a relationship with John Marray. I always have. I've had time. 225 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: I'm very close to a lot of people with the 226 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: Giants and have been a lot of people who work there. 227 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: So the Giants have and I have been very close 228 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: to a lot of the years. Even though the Ghettleman 229 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 4: music at very angry at me. Recently they've been angry 230 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 4: at me, but I have great respect for John and 231 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: an affinity for John Marraw, especially Chris Maraan live very well. 232 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: Even the Tesches I know well. The bottom line is 233 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: all class people in a big way. The Jets are 234 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: such a joke. Now, listen what he's now, dummy. He 235 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: bought the team to six hundred and thirty million, it's 236 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: now worth seven or eight billion. Okay, he's made a 237 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 4: good buye and he first of all didn't matter. He's 238 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: a Johnson and Johnson hare. He never needed a dollar 239 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: in his life. We know that. You know he's born 240 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: a billionaire. We understand that. Okay, he's made a good 241 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: buy from an investment standpoint, but he has no idea 242 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: what it means to own a football team, and he 243 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 4: has no idea how to work with people at all. 244 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: And he listens to the worst people in history. Okay, 245 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: and they have had a couple of points when they've 246 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: had it close. Listen. I blame some people for stuff 247 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 4: that they did there when they should have stayed. Okay, 248 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: Manginie should have been there for fifteen years. The guy 249 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: would have been He's a terrific coach. It was his fault. 250 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 4: He was a jerk. You can't treat the owner like 251 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: he's not the owner, and he did, and he got 252 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 4: out of there, even though he had two winning years 253 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: and three years they dumped them because they didn't like him, 254 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: and he was wrong. He was completely wrong. They had 255 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: some good times and he's the one who built the 256 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 4: right team, but then Woody screwed it up by bringing 257 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: in fred Father who didn't want Okay, the bottom line 258 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: is Woody has no idea what he's doing and what 259 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: but they're doing now with Aaron Glenn, I have never 260 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: seen before someone said you, Jackson did this in Cleveland 261 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: and went from one to fifteen to Owen sixteen. The 262 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: Jets are gonna get worse, Okay. I mean they're gonna 263 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: get worse first, and that's hard to believe. And he 264 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 4: has got rid of the entire staff after the first year. 265 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 4: It is insanity. What is going on there? Way, if 266 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: the wife fled and they tried, they tried to hire 267 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: John Duden as an assistant. An assistant he knows well 268 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: football than them, you know, walking in the door. It's 269 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: like Einstein and the horse, and the horse that counts 270 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: with its fuf Okay. The bottom line is it's ridiculous. Okay. 271 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: But the whole thing now, if they hired Frank Wright 272 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: to be the offensive coordinator, I think that's a step 273 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: in the right direction. If that happens okay, but they 274 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: are such a mess right now. They have a good 275 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: special teams coach, that's basically it. Otherwise their coaches are 276 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: a disaster. 277 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, it's such a mess that Gruden, who desperately 278 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: wants back of the NFL, said no thanks to the 279 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: New York Jets. 280 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 4: Right, probably could have taken the place over in a week. 281 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: Right, he'd be the head coach. Right. 282 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: I think it was in two weeks he would have 283 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: been the head coach, right, Mike. 284 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 5: First off, congratulations News Day's number one sports icon in 285 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 5: sports radio. 286 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: Very nice, Thank you, Thank you. 287 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 5: Was it ever a doubt to be going on open 288 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: number one? Every metric that I have. But I'm making 289 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 5: my first appearance on Radio Row this year. I consider 290 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: you the godfather of Radio Row along with mad Dog. 291 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: Any tips for a first time are going out to radio. 292 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 4: You know they've ruined Radio Row. You know we in 293 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: the beginning, we had so much fun there. But what 294 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: happened was, like everything else, money ruins everything. Now, Radio 295 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: Row is about, you know, about what product they can 296 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: sell you. They charge tickets to Radio Row. You don't 297 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: get anybody of consequence there. You get people who are 298 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: just getting paid to sell products and they give you 299 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 4: the same bed in if you two guys knows this 300 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: one after another after another. Guy's done nine in use. 301 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: He doesn't even know who he's talking to anymore. He's 302 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: done so many interviews, okay, and he's picked in a product, right, 303 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: and he comes in with a piece of paper about 304 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: a product he knows nothing about, and he tries to 305 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: tell you about the product. Right. That's basically, hey, don't 306 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: forget to mention my product. I don't want to mention 307 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: your products. Okay, So the whole thing is terrible now. 308 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: It's so plus they take care of only their rights holders, 309 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: and they have so many rights holders now and so 310 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 4: many big companies involved that the days that we were 311 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: a part of that was so natural. It was us 312 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: and then stations grew around us to where there was 313 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: fifty or forty five or fifty big stations and that 314 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: was a vibrant time. But then the NFL ruined it 315 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: like they ruin everything else. Because they are the greediest 316 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: humans who have ever walked the earth. You have to 317 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 4: understand that, okay. They all they care about is the 318 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: next buck, the next buck, and that's what's wrong with 319 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: the end There's a couple things wrong with the NFL 320 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: right now. Number One, the union has way too much 321 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: to say about what coaches can do and can't do 322 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: in terms of running their team and developing their players, 323 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: which is a disaster. Number Two, the only thing the 324 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: owners care about is growing their product and growing their revenues. 325 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: That's the biggest problem. The NFL is so greedy and 326 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: after every dollar, and that's what they're taught, that's what 327 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: they know. Protect the shield and grow the revenue, and 328 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: it has ruined what is an incredible sport. 329 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Micha, are you into the Super Bowl? Are you? 330 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: Are you into you know the game coming up this 331 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: week or next week? 332 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Listen, the media. NFL season ends with the 333 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: championship games. The super Bowl stands out by itself. I 334 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 4: cannot stand the week before. I try to watch nothing, okay, 335 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: because I just cannot stand it as so tedious. Okay, 336 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: the listen. I've been parts of those pregames. I understand 337 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 4: the money part of it, but the four hour pregame, 338 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: it's so hard for it to be good because it's 339 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: four hours. Okay, we just watched the bus leave the building. 340 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 4: We just watched it leave the hotel. Who can Okay, 341 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, stuff you would never think about 342 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: in the regular season you're thinking about with the Super Bowl. 343 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 4: But the game, I give it about a sixty percent 344 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: chance to be good. I'm very worried about the New 345 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 4: England offensive line. He's been sacked fifteen times in the playoffs. 346 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 4: I think the offensive line is falling apart. I think 347 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 4: he could really take a beating from the Seattle defense. 348 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Thanks again to Mike Francessa the Pope, the greatest personality 349 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: in the history of New York Sports Radio. Eight seven 350 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox. That's eight seven seven ninety 351 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: nine on Fox. Your calls next. 352 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 353 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 354 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 355 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: listen live. 356 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: Is he has something? 357 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 7: I'm certain I'm just carried that Tom Brady said you 358 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 7: can go try out for the Oscars. 359 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 8: Is that is that him freestyling on you should go for. 360 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 9: The popularity and all that. Like, you know, then welcome 361 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 9: to the world of voting, and you may as well go, 362 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 9: you know, try out for the Oscars or whatever, and 363 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 9: get a big panel to tell you if you're good 364 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 9: or not. 365 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 8: I think that's how that works. 366 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: Audition. 367 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Give me an Oscar Taylor put it on the poll. 368 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Should the President of the United States have better things 369 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: to do? 370 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 371 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 10: Or no? 372 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: Let's bring on Trey Wingo from Parts Unknown. I love Trey. 373 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: Thanks to Mike Francessa for joining us earlier. I'm certain 374 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: Trey is fresh off a round of golf. Tray, How 375 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: are you, buddy, Stu? 376 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 9: Always a pleasure. I'm headed to the golf course. 377 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: Actually, okay, where are you playing today? 378 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 9: Huh Desert Willow in Rancho Mirage, California. 379 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Of course you are. It's better than you, Trey Wingo. 380 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: Nobody straight facts, Homie is the podcast wherever you get 381 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: your podcasts. 382 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: We will get to that in just a second. Trey, 383 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: the floor is yours. 384 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: It is rare where everyone in sports media and really 385 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: any sports fan anywhere, where we all agree, where we 386 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: hear something, we hear a bit of news and we 387 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: go what and we all get angry. 388 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: The floor is yours. Bill Belichick doesn't make it to 389 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. 390 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 9: Go yeah. We live in a world where people are 391 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 9: trying to tell us that Bill Belichick isn't a first 392 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 9: ballot Hall of Famer and Shidor Sanders is a pro bowler. 393 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 9: Flip okay, reality has left the equation. And what I'm 394 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 9: hopeful because every almost ninety five to ninety six percent 395 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 9: of people on Twitter agree. 396 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: Do you know how hard that is to do? 397 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 10: Like that? 398 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 9: That's toxic swamp of X flash Twitter. Everyone's like, yeah, 399 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 9: this is really messed up. So my only hope in 400 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 9: this there are two things. First of all, that the 401 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 9: cowards and that cowards that didn't vote Bill Belichick in 402 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 9: explain yourself. Tell us why the coach with the most 403 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 9: Super Bowls, most Super Bowl appearances, the most Super Bowl wins, 404 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 9: the most Playoff appearances, the most playoff wins, the second 405 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 9: most wins in the history of the NFL if he's 406 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 9: not a first ballot Hall of Famer, nobody is. So 407 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 9: this was not about performance. This was punitive, Drake. 408 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 8: Follow me down this path and see you if you 409 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 8: don't agree that this could be a brilliant pr move 410 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 8: from the Belichick side. Belichick side, because this. 411 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 11: Is probably the only thing you can do to him 412 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 11: right now to make him a sympathetic figure. You've got 413 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 11: Tom Brady going on TV saying Bill is the best 414 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 11: You've got everybody ninety seven percent of the X audience 415 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 11: agreeing on this. Not only does that make him a 416 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 11: sympathetic figure, makes his speech better next year. 417 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 8: He could joke about waiting a year. I think Bill 418 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 8: Belichick ends up winning at the end of this, Yes, and. 419 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 9: He'll get into the Hall of Fame. But I are 420 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 9: you trying Are you trying to sell me your conspiracy 421 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 9: theory that's what I need? 422 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 12: Yes, Yes, I mean I'm not even trying to sell 423 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 12: it that hard, all right, But Tray Trey, he is 424 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 12: right though, Like it is hard for us to, you know, 425 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 12: kind of feel any sort of sympathy for Bill Belichick 426 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 12: until last night, until he didn't get into the Hall 427 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 12: of Fame. 428 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: At Belichick obviously had nothing to do with it. He 429 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: would love to be a first ballot hole. But we 430 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: do all feel badly right now for Bill Belichick. 431 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 9: That is true. And my other hope out of all 432 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 9: of this, guys, is that we look at the fact 433 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 9: that only fifty people vote, right. I know that Dan 434 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 9: for many years out of Baseball vote Baseball what like, 435 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 9: had eight million voters. There were too many, right, We 436 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 9: can all agree, Yes, fifty is not enough because if 437 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 9: you have fifty and the clearance is forty, you can 438 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 9: get someone who will persuade a few and be able 439 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 9: to turn them. But let's say you had one hundred voters, 440 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 9: You're not getting twice that many to turn. Logic comes 441 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 9: into the equation if you expand the voting pool. 442 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: Mike Francessa was just on with us and he said, 443 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: Belichick probably upset last night, definitely upset today, but in 444 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: two days. 445 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: He'll get over it. Do you agree? 446 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: Because I think being a first ballot Hall of Famer 447 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: means something to that coach in particular, and I don't 448 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: think he's going to get over it. 449 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 450 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 9: I couldn't disagree more with Francessor on the fan, Bill 451 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 9: Belichick holds a grudge. He's one of the reasons he 452 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 9: wants to break the record for the most wins in 453 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 9: the NFL is that Don Shula himself said well, you 454 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 9: know there should be some scrutiny and looking at him 455 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 9: differently because of Spygate. He was like, really go after yourself. 456 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 9: That was basically the way that he decided he wanted 457 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 9: to handle this. I don't think he's going to get 458 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 9: over it for a while. He won't let us know that, 459 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 9: but he's going to use this as fuel for his 460 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 9: competitive fire for as long as he needs it. 461 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: If Bill Belichick wants to show how great a coach 462 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 5: he is, it starts August twenty ninth in Ireland against 463 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 5: m Taylor. 464 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, detail in Ireland. 465 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 9: Here's what I would say to that. I have no 466 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 9: idea if he's ever going to be a good college coach. 467 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: I know he I mean, let's just be honest about it. 468 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 9: I have no idea. I hope for his sake, I 469 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 9: hope so for North Carolina, say because I put a 470 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 9: lot of money into it, I hope so. But I 471 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 9: know he's one of the greatest coaches in the history 472 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 9: of the NFL, even though I have pointed out in 473 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 9: the past, you look at his record without Ballots, without 474 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 9: Brady in New England and his record in Cleveland, it's 475 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 9: not nearly as good. But this just in every coach 476 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 9: will take better players. So I don't want you to 477 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 9: use that as a find me the coach that wins 478 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 9: with awful players. They don't exist. And you know, people 479 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 9: and people want to go with the spygate to Flake 480 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 9: Kate thing. He had nothing to do with the flake gate. 481 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 9: That was Bill. That was Tom Brady and the guy 482 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 9: who handled his football's who Tom nicknamed, wait for it, 483 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 9: the deflator. Okay, Bill had nothing to do with that. 484 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 9: And for the morality police in here like wow, this 485 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 9: and this, okay, fine, Then how come Ray Lewis got 486 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 9: in on his first ballot? You might want to google 487 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 9: what happened to Ray. 488 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 7: If this is a one year penalty, you know, the 489 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 7: fake one year penalty for Spygate, I'm fine with it. 490 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 7: If I won three extra Super Bowls because of that 491 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 7: one year of Spygate, I'm fine with it. 492 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 8: I don't really think it matters. 493 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 7: It's like I said before, they never say first ballot 494 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: Hall of Fame coach such and such. 495 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 8: They just say hall of fame coach after you get in. 496 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 4: Well, yes and no. 497 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 9: I mean like, first ballot is the most hall of fame, 498 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 9: is the most exclusive club in any sport. First ballot 499 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 9: hall of famers are in the most exclusive room in 500 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 9: the most exclusive club. And we're talking about one percenters here, 501 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 9: and they all want that, like you're not you're not 502 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 9: trying to do all these things. And if you don't 503 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 9: want to be in the most exclusive club. So I'm 504 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 9: not fine with it because it's basically double jeopardy. He 505 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 9: was penalized first by Gates, Mike, Mike Shanahan. Basically, if 506 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 9: you read Seth Wickersham's post today, Seth wickers in one 507 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 9: of his books said, look, Bill just did it that. 508 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 9: We all tried to do this. Peyton Manning was really 509 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 9: good at stealing signs. We're all, we've all done it. 510 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 9: He's just done it better than all of us. It's 511 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 9: not that big of a deal. That was Mike Shanahan 512 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 9: right after. 513 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 8: They get in, though, do we ever bring up first ballot? 514 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 7: It's really only when they get in, No, and then 515 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 7: if you want to have a separate conversation about it. 516 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 9: We do. 517 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: But really, Trey, I know the problem here because he's 518 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: an NBA guy doing that. They let anyone into that 519 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and they let him in first ballot. 520 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who it is. It's easy to get 521 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: into that Hall of fame. 522 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: And therefore he I mean, mo cheeks, my god, I mean, 523 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: I think. 524 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 9: I think a beaten horse in high school is in. 525 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: The basketball straight facts, Homie Trey Wingo is with us 526 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: here or something. 527 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: Now, we're gonna play Traylor and a in just a 528 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: second here we are going to play A tailor has 529 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: a list of questions for Tray or Nay, but Trey. 530 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if Tom Brady, if he never goes to 531 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: Tampa and never wins a Super Bowl in Tampa, is 532 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick a Hall of Famer today? 533 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 9: No, because I think it was I think it was 534 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 9: the other garbage that that really polluted the room. I mean, look, 535 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 9: Bill was never friendly with the press. I mean, I 536 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 9: tell you a great story. Do you know the late 537 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 9: great Jack bart right, Well, he campaigned for years try 538 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 9: and get Dan Dirdorf into the Hall of Fame, and 539 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 9: eventually he got in there. And one voting meeting, Jack 540 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 9: went on and on talking about how Darreff broke his 541 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 9: jaw but didn't miss a game because they wired it 542 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 9: shut then at to play the next week and continued playing. 543 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 9: And someone in the back of the room, because Dan 544 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 9: was on Monday Night Football, and this particular beat writer 545 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 9: didn't like the way Dan did Monday Night Football, yelled out, 546 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 9: should have kept his jaw wired. It's that kind of 547 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 9: petty bullshit, which is why Bill isn't in the Hall 548 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 9: of Fame. It has nothing to do with Tom Brady 549 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 9: winning without him. 550 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: All right, I'm assuming they dumped that. Tray's on live 551 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: radio right now. He's accustomed to daping with us. 552 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: Hunts to God's and Company. It's okay. 553 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: I like when you let it fly here. Since we 554 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: have you here, Trey, I want to play some sound. 555 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: Bamani Jones was with us earlier today on Stugott's and Company, 556 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: the podcast before we come on here every day from 557 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: three until five. Check out his podcast The Right Time 558 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: with Bamani. I asked Bomani the quarterback he trusts most 559 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: in this Super Bowl. 560 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: Here's his answer. I trust neither your thoughts, Dray. 561 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 9: I think that's a fair assessment. I mean, like, Drake 562 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 9: has played great, but he struggled, albeit against some very 563 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 9: good defenses in the postseason. Damn Darnold flipped the script 564 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 9: on us in the NFC Championship game. I mean, you 565 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 9: want to go out there and try and change your perception. 566 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 9: Throw for three hundred and forty six yards, three touchdowns 567 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 9: and no interceptions, go twenty five out. 568 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 4: Of thirty six. 569 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 9: But yeah, with everything on the line, I think there's 570 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 9: still a big question mark over both of these guys. 571 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Try just switching over to golf for seconds. It's I 572 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: have you here, and you're a big golfer and you're 573 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: head of the playoff right now your thoughts on Brooks, 574 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: Koepka and I guess now Patrick Reid headed back to 575 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour asylum seekers. 576 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 9: And Kevin Ann Hudson Schwafford, who have also come back 577 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 9: from live listen on these straight backs only podcasts that 578 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 9: we takee December tenth, when or reports that Brooks was 579 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 9: coming back, we said, this is what the beginning of 580 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 9: the end looks like for Lifgolf. Lift took mighty swings 581 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 9: when they had the leverage and they had the hammer, 582 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 9: and they really hit the PGA Tour hard in twenty 583 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 9: twenty two and twenty twenty three, that leverage has completely 584 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 9: gone the other way. The PGA Tour found a way 585 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 9: to thrive and survive without a lot of those stars. 586 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 9: And now people are realizing if you listen to what 587 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 9: Brooks said in his press conference and what Patrick Reid 588 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 9: said in his statement, they basically are acknowledging this isn't 589 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 9: a real competition. The other things the Lift guard It 590 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 9: was like a fun member guest. But if you want 591 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 9: to be the best, and Brooks has five, There's are 592 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 9: only a handful of golfers in the history of the 593 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 9: PGA Tour that have five majors. You want to measure yourself. 594 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: Against the best. 595 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 9: The best way to do that is to be an 596 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 9: active player on the PGA Tour. You know, one of 597 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 9: the best matches I've ever seen in golf anywhere was 598 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 9: the singles match in the twenty sixteen Ryder Cup between 599 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 9: Patrick Reid and Rory McElroy. It was like a World 600 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 9: Wrestling Federation match. Okay, it was ridiculous. Patrick Reed is 601 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 9: a competitor at heart. If you're a competitor at heart, 602 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 9: you want to play against the best, and that's what 603 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 9: we're seeing. The money was great, but it didn't scratch 604 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 9: my itch. 605 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: Before we get to Treyjernee promote, please the latest episode 606 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: of Straight Facts Home Meet your Podcast. 607 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, we just taped with Damian Woody talking about the 608 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 9: Bill Belichick stuff and the similarities between this Patriots team 609 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 9: and the first incarnation of the Patriots. Dyna see that 610 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 9: Damien was a part of. We also just dropped an 611 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 9: episode talking about everything we just talked about with Patrick Red. 612 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 9: That was also out on my Trey Wingo Golf page 613 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 9: as well as my Trey Wingo YouTube page. We've got 614 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 9: upcoming guests. Billy Horssel's going to join us, Joel Damon's 615 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 9: going to join us, Jordan Speed's going to join us. 616 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 9: We got a lot of great stuff, so the Straight 617 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 9: Facts Only podcast wherever you get it, but also on 618 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 9: my YouTube page Trey Wingo and Trey Wingo Golf. 619 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: Will you be in San Francisco next week? 620 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 9: Debating? It depends on how good the weather is when 621 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 9: I get back to Maui tomorrow. 622 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: All Right, I had your co hosting on Thursday with me, 623 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: just so you know, so I'm in I'm in there 624 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: it is, I'll see him in San Francisco. Are you 625 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: ready for Trey or Nay? 626 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: Are you ready? 627 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 9: I'm I'm always ready, all. 628 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: Right, Taylor, mikey Hey, and that lousy microphone take it away, Trey. 629 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 5: The first question a Hall of Fame voter saying he 630 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 5: forgot if he voted for the greatest coach of all time? 631 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 5: Trey or Nay. 632 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 9: That's a hard nay and it doesn't pass the smell 633 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 9: test in any way. Shape or for. 634 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: Go ahead, mikey Okay, Trey. 635 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 6: A fan of any team other than the New York Jets, 636 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 6: saying their team is the Titanic. 637 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 9: Cleveland makes a great case, So nay, Cleveland makes a 638 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 9: great case. 639 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: Right, But Buffalo is trying to make a case. 640 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: We had to make geary on earlier, and he's trying 641 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: to make a case that Buffalo is the equipment of 642 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: the Tadadic thinking. 643 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 9: Well, then they're doing a good job of looking like 644 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 9: they have no plan and they fired the wrong guy. 645 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I'll give them credit for that. 646 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 5: M Mike Golic pitching beef jerky and how to prevent 647 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 5: diabetes at Radio Row Trey Orne. 648 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 9: All the way, Trey, because it's the most Golic thing ever. 649 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 4: And I love him for it. 650 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 8: He is promoting both beef jerky and how not diabetes? 651 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: Yes, same day, just different aisles. Yes, go ahead, mikey. 652 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 6: House Yeah, having your house professionally plowed after a snowstorm, 653 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 6: Tray or nae oh, I hate. 654 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 9: That guy completely, Trey. We First of all, it's easy 655 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 9: for me to say that because I don't have to 656 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 9: do it anymore. Uh. 657 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 4: Second, at our. 658 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 9: Home back in Connecticut, fifteen inches just dropped. And so 659 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 9: you think I'm shoveling fifteen inches if I were there, 660 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 9: That's a hard task. Joe, give me the professional every day. 661 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: All right, straight facts, homie, anywhere you get your podcast, 662 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: Trey Wingo, I will see you next Thursday. 663 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: It's San Francisco co hosting this radio program with me. 664 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 9: Apparently I got a book of flights up. Great. 665 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this, buddy, hit him straight. We'll 666 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: talk to you soon, okay, mahallo, my friends anytime. 667 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu gottson Company 668 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: Live weekd sit three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific on 669 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 670 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. We'll get to 671 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: your calls here in just a second. Got a couple 672 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: of minutes here, but first let's get one final thought here, 673 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: because we have discussed Belichick the entire day. I'm exhausted, 674 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: but let's get one final thought from mikey A and 675 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: his terrible Mike. 676 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: I'm Bill Belichick. 677 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 6: Well, I'm hoping this sounds okay because it won't be 678 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 6: when I say it. 679 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: Ye. 680 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 6: Bill Belichick waited forty nine years for his girlfriend to 681 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 6: be born I think you can wait another year to 682 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 6: get into the Hall of Fame. 683 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: And let that be the final thoughts that we got 684 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: a fast class. I believe you nailed it, Mikey and 685 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: Mike sounded great. 686 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 7: Congratulations Jared and Greensboro, do you have a funnier joke 687 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 7: than that? 688 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 8: Jared and Greensboro? You're on Fox Sports Radio? 689 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 10: Unfortunately, no, I don't, not the comedic chops there. 690 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 4: But so but anyway, so Stu, you know I love 691 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: you buddy. 692 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 10: You're I've been listening to you for about ten years, right, 693 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 10: but I got a little bit of a a little 694 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 10: bit of bone to pick with you and your Dan 695 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 10: Campbell takes. 696 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 9: All Right, Okay, you know I'm a I'm a big time. 697 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 10: Lions fan, and you know I've I've heard all the 698 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 10: takes about like how washed up he is and about 699 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 10: how he's wasting about Ben Johnson is the genius, you 700 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 10: know on all that. I just got to say, all right, 701 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 10: Ben Johnson got to play the Raiders while the Lions 702 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 10: had to go play the Chiefs and they got to 703 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 10: play the Saints and the Lions had to play the 704 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 10: Buck And that's literally the difference, like in their schedule 705 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 10: they're they're there. Their records were like two games apart, 706 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 10: And I just don't think that two games apart is 707 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 10: really enough to, like, all of a sudden, have Ben 708 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 10: Johnson be the greatest coach in NFL history off the 709 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 10: season and Dan Campbell needed to be fired like yesterday. 710 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 10: So I don't know, I think that's just a little crazy. 711 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 7: Jared, you waited a long time to get that takeoff. 712 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 7: I just want to ask st Stu. Do you feel 713 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 7: like you've been put in your place by Jared? Did 714 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 7: I say that Dan Campbell should be fired important? 715 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: That's important? 716 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: Do you feel like this is important Jared? Did I 717 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: actually say that? Or is this just people saying it? 718 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: Like which one is it? 719 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 10: But I've heard it on several shows of like, oh, 720 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 10: Dan Campbelly's washed up, this is the end of the Lions. 721 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 10: They're gonna, they're gonna they should fire him tomorrow. It's 722 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 10: just it's just how it goes when teams reach the 723 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 10: end of like they're they have these like three year runs, 724 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 10: and whenever a three year runs over, we have to 725 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 10: fire the coach and get rid of them. You can't 726 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 10: ever have the same coach rebuild the roster and and 727 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 10: do another thing. I don't think you've exactly said that, 728 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 10: but I'm pre I'm I'm pre ascribing a Kevin Durant. 729 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 10: I pre feel with Kevin Durant next season when they 730 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 10: start Free and Free. 731 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 4: That's all. 732 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 8: And Jared, we're fine with you coming on this show 733 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 8: to get things off your chest. It's okay. You could 734 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 8: even claim Stu Gotts said it. 735 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 2: I'll go with it. 736 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, Stu Gatts is very tired. It's only the middle 737 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 8: of the week. 738 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 7: Yes, he started off the show with some pretty good 739 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 7: proof that he was tired by mispronouncing a singular syllable word. 740 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: Iowa sam is the board app back in Sherman, Thank 741 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: you mispronounced that word. 742 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: It's single speak for a living and I speak too much. 743 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 7: Board app sounds like when you when you're really bored 744 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 7: and you just pick up your phone and it just 745 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 7: fixes that you have a board app. 746 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: Yes, that's gonna haunt me until until until tomorrow show. 747 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: I have to go home with that, Okay, Iowa sam 748 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: is the board app. Oh Jesus, listen to me. 749 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: I didn't say that thing about Dan Campbell, but I 750 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 2: am going to say this, Dan Campbell, do it. Without 751 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. And Ben Johnson do it in the postseason. 752 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 5: How about that Dan Campbell ruined football with going for 753 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 5: it on fourth down? 754 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: He did for everyone? Yes, put it on the poll. 755 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: Did Dan Campbell ruin football? 756 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 7: I know some of these kickers when it comes back 757 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 7: to kicking field goals, they're gonna be excited. 758 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 8: It's like it's our time, baby. 759 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: Right, So as he listen, we have made a pact here, 760 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: a promise that tomorrow is the day, okay, that we 761 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: will talk about Giannis, who's not playing tonight. 762 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 7: Okay, it's only the biggest story in sports that has 763 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 7: to do with people still playing. 764 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 2: But I also do not believe there's a Super Bowl. 765 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 5: Save it for the board app