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Speaker 1: twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number sixty one. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break Life from Nest WBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios at the Star. Cowboys get a big win yesterday,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it. They went forty three
Speaker 1: to three to the Atlanta Falcons at home. That's so
Speaker 1: just hearing that score. That's incredible. And I've Nick as
Speaker 1: soon as we finished with the Denver game, his first
Speaker 1: words were, first, don't even know if the game was over.
Speaker 1: You were like, I know, who was gonna get their bus?
Speaker 1: Whoop Atlanta? And you clearly put that target on them,
Speaker 1: and Cowboys showed up and showed up. Nick. Nick, you
Speaker 1: deserve some credit, my man. I mean, this is this
Speaker 1: is the NFL, and I take I took issue with that.
Speaker 1: I was like, you don't just get to decide that
Speaker 1: they're going to whip somebody's ass, like if they get
Speaker 1: paid too, That's that's how this works. And not only
Speaker 1: was he right about that, he was also like, and
Speaker 1: then Philli will probably turn around and kicked Denver's asses
Speaker 1: and here we god' you know, maybeat Denver by seventeen points.
Speaker 1: So no, no, don't be raising your arms over there,
Speaker 1: because you were after that game when we came back
Speaker 1: into the office, you were saying, well, I don't know
Speaker 1: about this team. I have my doubts. Now he did, Now,
Speaker 1: I said, I did say that. I just said we'll
Speaker 1: find out this week. Like if they go and they
Speaker 1: lay an egg against Atlanta, now we're gonna find out
Speaker 1: what they are. But I did I thought they would
Speaker 1: kick their ass, and not so much about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: doing it. I just thought the Falcons would come back
Speaker 1: to earth a little bit a combination of everything. Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn was not gonna let that happen, and that was
Speaker 1: that was clear, and you could see with the game
Speaker 1: ball and all that stuff like it mattered to him.
Speaker 1: So I just hundred percent, I just that's amazing. Because
Speaker 1: I mean I picked him to win by eleven points,
Speaker 1: which is covering the spread. Well, that's it's a dominant
Speaker 1: win in the NFL forty points. Yeah, you just don't
Speaker 1: see that. You just don't. I mean, they from the
Speaker 1: from the coin flip to the into the third quarter,
Speaker 1: they just the Falcons didn't look like they belonged on
Speaker 1: the same field. Probably the most complete win that I
Speaker 1: can remember the Cowboys having, and I mean for a
Speaker 1: long long time now when they beat Jacksonville if you remember,
Speaker 1: like that was like three or four years ago, eighteen
Speaker 1: yea seven maybe it was. It was that was surprising
Speaker 1: because we thought Jacksonville was good. What's going on here?
Speaker 1: We thought Jacksonville was good? Um, but just from everything,
Speaker 1: the defense was dominant, the special teams was special. Again, Um,
Speaker 1: they actually blocked upon that way, you know, like the
Speaker 1: right way. What talking about that? That is unbelievab What
Speaker 1: are the odds that they would do it in back
Speaker 1: to back games? Get it right this time? And oh
Speaker 1: speaking of right, right, Nishan right who scores the touchdown
Speaker 1: after bobbling the one last he's so he's so awesome,
Speaker 1: Like get to interview him after the game and give
Speaker 1: him credit. Last week, he comes in there, he did it.
Speaker 1: He talked about the play and all that. This week
Speaker 1: he comes back and he's like, he's got this grind.
Speaker 1: You know, he reminds me of Bryce Butler. He's got
Speaker 1: this you know, big smile. He's like, he's like, I'm back.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, and it's better this week. You know,
Speaker 1: he was all excited about it and and is like,
Speaker 1: of course he scored the touchdown. You know, that's why
Speaker 1: I love full circle. Yeah, everything about this week seemed
Speaker 1: like it was full circle. Cowboys needed this kind of
Speaker 1: You just you don't get to write narratives like that
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Like, we had a bad setback, so
Speaker 1: not only are we gonna win, we're just gonna obliterate
Speaker 1: the other team. The rookie that had the terrible mistake
Speaker 1: is gonna get He's gonna get his touchdown. What else happened?
Speaker 1: Dak played his first game, so it was gonna play
Speaker 1: his best freaking game. Mike McCarthy, I mean they didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't have his team ready to play. He had
Speaker 1: some he had some fourth down calls in there that
Speaker 1: backfired on him in that particular game. He didn't change that.
Speaker 1: He stayed with the fourth quarter I mean fourth down gambles,
Speaker 1: you know, he stayed with that. And he also switched
Speaker 1: it up and said we're taking the ball, which I
Speaker 1: didn't like that. I never liked it, but I would
Speaker 1: always always differ. But it worked this time because they
Speaker 1: got the ball, they scored, and then in the third
Speaker 1: quarter it didn't matter. It didn't, I mean, nothing matters
Speaker 1: except for when am I gonna write my story? Was it?
Speaker 1: Was it just me? Or did the whole game actually,
Speaker 1: from beginning to end seem just kind of effortless, like
Speaker 1: they weren't in there and we're just having fun. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, we're battling and really trying. It's just
Speaker 1: like they're out there playing having fun. Yeah, getting things.
Speaker 1: One of the things I said to you was like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is all good. It felt like a like a
Speaker 1: maddened game where you're like, okay, I gotta get everyone
Speaker 1: some stats here. I was like, I just hope Diggs
Speaker 1: gets to pick I'm just changed this narrative around for
Speaker 1: him and get an interception. It seems like a type
Speaker 1: of game where he would and he did, and he
Speaker 1: made one of those digs plays where it was like
Speaker 1: off his head. Every interception that was made was a
Speaker 1: great play. Yeah, I mean he caught one off his
Speaker 1: head and that was the third best one because Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis had a good one, and then Anthony Brown that
Speaker 1: was the best one. That might have been one of
Speaker 1: the better ones of the whole season. That was an
Speaker 1: amazing interception. I'm in awe. I'm in awe of that performance, honest,
Speaker 1: And I mean, the Falcons aren't world beaters. I get it.
Speaker 1: They I doubt that they actually make the playoffs, even
Speaker 1: though that they were in a wildcard spot yesterday. But no,
Speaker 1: they're they're no, They're absolutely alive. It's we're seeing it.
Speaker 1: There's like there's three or four fire breathing dragons in
Speaker 1: the NFC and then a bunch of I mean, the
Speaker 1: sixth and set, the fifth seed's gonna be a great
Speaker 1: team and the six and seven seeds are probably gonna
Speaker 1: be pretty mediocre. Here's here's what's interesting. And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what the Rams have done, but but they're not
Speaker 1: even winning their division right now. So of the of
Speaker 1: the division with leaders, all four of them have a
Speaker 1: terrible loss, right Like you would think Dallas had a
Speaker 1: really bad loss in the Denver Tampa yesterday. What was
Speaker 1: they were on there? The Cardinals yesterday and then they
Speaker 1: didn't have their quarterback or their top receivers. So okay,
Speaker 1: that factors in. Yeah it does. And you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see what Cam's doing there in Caroline and all that.
Speaker 1: But Blade Bay got murdered in their opener to the Saints. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so and we know the Saints they're there, so they're
Speaker 1: one of the teams. Is very hard to figure out
Speaker 1: who they really are. Yeah, But I mean, overall, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just a fun it was It was a
Speaker 1: fun game, and in a game where you know, it's
Speaker 1: like okay, all right, if there was any doubt, and
Speaker 1: there was, I mean there was a little doubt because
Speaker 1: you want to see, okay, is this who they are
Speaker 1: or not? Well, I thought they sent a message to
Speaker 1: the league of like that's when we're playing our game,
Speaker 1: this is what can happen. Yeah, and they weren't shy
Speaker 1: about saying either. A lot you get a lot of
Speaker 1: questions after a forty point went about like did you
Speaker 1: make a statement? And Zeke Elliott was like, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: that team. If if, if if we're if we're on
Speaker 1: our p's and q's, we're that team. And then Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons was even better. He was like, uh, he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to curse here on the microphone, but
Speaker 1: we're not trying to be fed with right now, like
Speaker 1: talking talk that trash, Michael, Let's go go. You know,
Speaker 1: I thought about this a couple of times, and I
Speaker 1: was gonna maybe say this in the you know, um
Speaker 1: on the press box, but I'm like, oh wait, Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: like that was it was. It was fine for you know,
Speaker 1: but it went for a decade and you could tell,
Speaker 1: like you could just kind of sense it was. It was,
Speaker 1: it got stale and then this isn't a bash him.
Speaker 1: It's just that that's his. It's the most happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's just refreshing to see different plays, different things
Speaker 1: that we've never seen before, you know, just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's keep doing this McGovern thing and he's gonna get
Speaker 1: the ball. Its point. I thought it would be yesterday,
Speaker 1: but you know, and let's do different things. Let's do
Speaker 1: different things all right around, you know, and and the
Speaker 1: way they do things on special teams and letting Fossil
Speaker 1: do some of his things. I mean, it's just different stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's it's fun to see. Yeah, it's always something different.
Speaker 1: I think most games this year. You do look at
Speaker 1: something that they did different. Yesterday, the I don't know
Speaker 1: if what you can call it, the handoff to Zeke
Speaker 1: and Zeke kind of it wasn't a loaddle like a
Speaker 1: handoff that past pass. Yeah, first it was just it
Speaker 1: was just it didn't go anywhere, but it was still
Speaker 1: just different. It's something different than you you know, some
Speaker 1: of some of the ways that Kelle Moore utilized my
Speaker 1: government yesterday. There were things that I was like, I
Speaker 1: didn't even realize you could even do, you know, because
Speaker 1: I started following the NFL with Jason Garrett here obviously
Speaker 1: focusing mainly on the Cowboys and everything. So now seeing
Speaker 1: some of those things that he's coming up with that
Speaker 1: is so creative to me, I'm like, oh, we can
Speaker 1: do that, Well, why haven't we ever done that before?
Speaker 1: So it's just it's really refreshing and very very exciting.
Speaker 1: Like Nick just said, I'm glad Nick brought this up
Speaker 1: to because I love the way that they didn't they
Speaker 1: didn't blink, you know, the game went South last week
Speaker 1: in part because they get they missed those fourth downs
Speaker 1: gave Denver spark. They don't care. They didn't go for
Speaker 1: it on fourth on the opening drive like they did
Speaker 1: last week, but two of their three fourth down attempts
Speaker 1: were on their second and third possession. One of them
Speaker 1: was a fourth and five. It's not even technically like
Speaker 1: a close just they don't care. Twenty one yards the
Speaker 1: CD finish that drive with a touchdown, then the next
Speaker 1: one fourth and three. Don't care. We're not even We're
Speaker 1: screw the sticks. We're going to the goal line. We're
Speaker 1: throwing at twenty three yards to Michael Gallup. And I
Speaker 1: don't think it's Yeah, I don't think it's a lack
Speaker 1: of respect for the Broncos or the Falcons for that matter.
Speaker 1: It's just look at us. We're the Cowboys. We got
Speaker 1: these guys. We should be going for it. We should
Speaker 1: be dictating the game. And you basically you put the
Speaker 1: game out of reach right there because you whimp around
Speaker 1: and kick a field goal and it's ten three, or
Speaker 1: now it's thirteen to three, and oh it's thirteen to
Speaker 1: six before the half. That's whimp football. They're like, no,
Speaker 1: we got studs, we're gonna go score touchdowns and make
Speaker 1: this twenty one to three. And I love it. I
Speaker 1: absolutely love it. And when it was thirty five to three,
Speaker 1: it was about to be thirty five to three on
Speaker 1: an extra point, and they have a penalty with you know,
Speaker 1: on Atlanta to get the ball down to the one
Speaker 1: they just take. Instead of just declining it and taking
Speaker 1: a thirty five to three league, they said, no, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take them off the field, put the offense back on,
Speaker 1: run the ball, get two point conversion and be up
Speaker 1: thirty six to three. I don't think a lot of
Speaker 1: coaching staffs would have done that, you know, going back,
Speaker 1: I'm so bad at math, but that makes it a
Speaker 1: five score game instead of a four, right, So there's
Speaker 1: like a mathematic thirty four point. Yeah, there's a mathematical
Speaker 1: reason to be doing that, yeah, which is yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. I absolutely love it. Going back to
Speaker 1: the fourth downs, do you think in any way that
Speaker 1: what they did yesterday on fourth downs, because there were
Speaker 1: some of those situations, I think, and I know for
Speaker 1: a fact the second one. The first one was a
Speaker 1: little outside or maybe I have him back with side.
Speaker 1: It was a little outside of field goal range, but
Speaker 1: maybe would have been How much you think their their
Speaker 1: decision making yesterday was a reflection of the fact that
Speaker 1: they didn't have Zirline. I don't know. I really don't
Speaker 1: know how what they what they liked from him in
Speaker 1: the pregame warm ups, if they if they were you know,
Speaker 1: comfortable or not. Um. You know, we noticed it in
Speaker 1: an extra points he's got a different kick than than
Speaker 1: than Zerline and it's it's more of a line drive.
Speaker 1: It may and that that means he may get some
Speaker 1: more more blocked one longer field goals. I don't know that,
Speaker 1: but it's an interesting point you made too during the
Speaker 1: game as to why you thought maybe that was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe from Canada, where you may have to kick into
Speaker 1: heavy winds, maybe it's makes more sense to kick just
Speaker 1: drive that thing through because it's a different kick. He's
Speaker 1: just driving the ball. Uh, you wonder what it looks
Speaker 1: like on forty fifty yards. But they never had to
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. And you interviewed him, I did,
Speaker 1: nice guy. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: to ask him. I was like, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm kidding when I ask you this, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: being serious, but like you get kind of disappointed when
Speaker 1: you start trotting toward the field and they tell you
Speaker 1: to turn back around. Question. Yeah, because it happened to
Speaker 1: him yesterday. And he's like, no, I mean the goal
Speaker 1: is to the goal is for the team to win games.
Speaker 1: So you know, I got to play my part with
Speaker 1: the extra points or whatever. And that's he made a
Speaker 1: really good point. There's so much stuff that goes into
Speaker 1: that that you don't think about. And he made the
Speaker 1: point that we're talking about the kicker who didn't kick
Speaker 1: in the first segment. I love it. That's how dominant
Speaker 1: this game was. But he's like, you know, they got
Speaker 1: they got like a Hall of Fame caliber return man.
Speaker 1: Like a big point of emphasis was to not let
Speaker 1: him really have a role in the game, and they didn't.
Speaker 1: That's a credit to him. I think the first one,
Speaker 1: maybe fourth and five. It's a longer distance than what
Speaker 1: we're used to. It would have been a fifty yard
Speaker 1: field goal, and it's early in the game. That could
Speaker 1: be asking a lot. Second one, no chance in hell.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a forty two yard field goal. Indoors,
Speaker 1: roof and doors were closed. I just think they trust
Speaker 1: their offense. And by the way, if they didn't kick
Speaker 1: the first one because of Lerium, just keep him on
Speaker 1: the team. I'm sorry, Greg, like, I'll sacrifice that if
Speaker 1: it means that we're making the right decisions on these
Speaker 1: fourth downs. I don't care. Doors were open, right, I
Speaker 1: thought they were close open, doors were open. I missed that. Sorry, Sorry,
Speaker 1: it was a nice day. It felt it probably felt
Speaker 1: the same, you know. Um. You know another thing too
Speaker 1: about that first one. I don't think you decide to
Speaker 1: take the ball and and to go get a three
Speaker 1: nothing lead, you know. I think I think that that
Speaker 1: mindset was we're going to score. We're going and so
Speaker 1: I don't think it would have to be fourth really
Speaker 1: long for them not to do that. The mindset was
Speaker 1: to go get a touchdown. And they were also aggressive
Speaker 1: on those two plays. I mean, they got twenty one
Speaker 1: and twenty three yard games like they weren't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like they were just trying to pick it up with
Speaker 1: a little dump off into the flat. I just the poe,
Speaker 1: the poetic, the symmetry of it all was just amazing.
Speaker 1: Like they might have scored a touchdown on the one
Speaker 1: to Cedric last week if Dak Puts throws a better
Speaker 1: ball like he threw an awful ball, and then this
Speaker 1: week that is a that is a tough throw and
Speaker 1: tough catch like it's a corner route. The coverage was nice,
Speaker 1: Dak had to put it exactly where it needed to
Speaker 1: be not to see on the first one. And gallop
Speaker 1: throw was a nice one too. They were both. They
Speaker 1: were both nice. But at least you know Gallops breaking
Speaker 1: back to the ball. You've got to you've got his
Speaker 1: body to target. But you put it in right there
Speaker 1: where he lived at the toe tap right. But the
Speaker 1: Lamb one, you're just throwing it into space. You're dropping
Speaker 1: it into a bucket in front of him. It's gotta
Speaker 1: be right there or it's not going to be complete.
Speaker 1: To have the faith to throw that route on fourth
Speaker 1: and five and to just hit it beautifully. Just that
Speaker 1: was that day. A chef's kiss. Why is that what
Speaker 1: we're doing? Though? All right, you guys are so old.
Speaker 1: I like it. That's awesome. Okay, that's awesome. It's internet, Internet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a meme. We eat you guys on that.
Speaker 1: That That was That was all you I was. I
Speaker 1: was with it. Nick was with it. I think it
Speaker 1: was with it all right. We're gonna take our first
Speaker 1: break when we come back. We got more to talk
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Speaker 1: to talk about with another game as well. But what
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Speaker 1: I tried to trim that down, but I just couldn't
Speaker 1: know this is this is actually a pretty big deal
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Speaker 1: is the second segment of break claf SWB. See Mortgage
Speaker 1: Studios at the start, Nick, real quick, we never got
Speaker 1: to a sixty one. You want to give me a
Speaker 1: sixty one for today's episode? Yeah, Well, you know, there's
Speaker 1: always the right answer and then there's always my answer. Ye,
Speaker 1: both sixty one. Yeah. Nate Newton, our dog, he's best
Speaker 1: friends now again or friends every day. People were asking
Speaker 1: me like, because I was just like what you stared at,
Speaker 1: because he was he didn't like. He didn't like the
Speaker 1: whole bad loss. There's no such thing as a bad loss.
Speaker 1: And I didn't say it was a bad loss. All
Speaker 1: I said it is when you're on the radio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, you can learn from a game like that,
Speaker 1: because they've been getting by with these bad first first
Speaker 1: half and maybe you can say, all right, if we
Speaker 1: have a bad first half against ever, we're not always
Speaker 1: going to come back, so you better not have a
Speaker 1: start like that, and so maybe you could just learn
Speaker 1: from a loss. That's kind of what my point is being.
Speaker 1: Was I love Nate sixty one? There's only one sixty
Speaker 1: one and there might be some others, but I think
Speaker 1: he's the best. He's the best. This job puts you
Speaker 1: in some we'll acknowledge this in a second day. This job.
Speaker 1: This job puts you in some cool spots. And like
Speaker 1: the fact that I just take it for granted that,
Speaker 1: like I got high five Nate Newton every day on
Speaker 1: my way through the hallway. It's just the like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is pretty The coolest you know, when you realize it.
Speaker 1: When you realize is when you're talking to your friends
Speaker 1: and you're just kind of talking about random stuff and
Speaker 1: you mentioned somebody and they're like, wait, hola, what did
Speaker 1: you just say. It's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You say Nate and they're like, wait, are you talking
Speaker 1: about Nate Newton? Like, yeah, perennial pro bowl er Nate
Speaker 1: Newton gives me crap about my sneaker collection. Yeah he does. No,
Speaker 1: It's it's actually pretty fun. That's what I love about
Speaker 1: it because he's he's like one of us. He has
Speaker 1: in his mind, but he's not really you know, he's
Speaker 1: but he is, but he's been in his mind. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's one of us. He's the jokes laughed, you know,
Speaker 1: he'll talk to you know, Amber, Bob Kickers, and he'll
Speaker 1: talk to everyone. He's got a thing for everyone. But
Speaker 1: you know, he's a six time pro bowler. That should
Speaker 1: be the ring of water. I'm like, let's not forget
Speaker 1: that truth all right now, Dave. Uh, we got the
Speaker 1: elephant in the room, or more like that razor back
Speaker 1: in the room. Yeah, which you want to tell us
Speaker 1: how every there's there's I just know there's gonna be
Speaker 1: like at least five people who didn't see me wearing
Speaker 1: the jersey in the first segment and just ran to
Speaker 1: Twitter just like, oh you patience is a virtue. Okay.
Speaker 1: We didn't want to lead off with college talk after
Speaker 1: a forty point win. Okay, we actually thought about moving
Speaker 1: it to tomorrow, and Day was like, he was like, non,
Speaker 1: have to deal with all that. I am a man
Speaker 1: of my word. I think anybody can relate to this.
Speaker 1: We trick ourselves as fans. I went into you know,
Speaker 1: we played well against Alabama. I was like, seasons lost. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this is a bad LSU team. We got nothing to lose.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play Doug nust Meyer's kid. This will be fun.
Speaker 1: News flash. It wasn't fun, and I like, I thought, like,
Speaker 1: because you make a public bet like this, you're just
Speaker 1: thinking about that in the back of your mind the
Speaker 1: whole game. And I just we've you were busy, you
Speaker 1: and I know you don't care. But we made Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I had like five yards of offense the whole first half,
Speaker 1: an LSU just could not capitalize, Like we could not
Speaker 1: couldn't put punt, We turn over in the red zone.
Speaker 1: So it's ten to three at halftime. Should three who
Speaker 1: LSU should have been? Should have been at least seventeen
Speaker 1: to three, if not more. And I just remember sitting
Speaker 1: there at half to I'm just like, we're gonna I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to wear this jersey, Chris, keep your
Speaker 1: finger on the bar. I was like, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to wear this jersey because we ran a wildcat in
Speaker 1: the red zone for the first time this season. And
Speaker 1: lo and behold, kJ Jefferson turns into freaking Johnny Manzelle.
Speaker 1: He must have slipped six sacks in this. I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 1: He must have slipped out of six sacks like you
Speaker 1: showed me. Yeah, yeah, he looks more like Nate Newton
Speaker 1: than Johnny many. Honestly, he reminded, I thought I was
Speaker 1: watching good Lsu JaMarcus Russell. That's what I was, just like,
Speaker 1: we can't we can't bring this guy. I thought it was.
Speaker 1: I told Nick, I was like, that's that's Matt. That's
Speaker 1: a Matt Matt Jones. Matt Jones. Yeah, well that's that
Speaker 1: big guy that could run. And you don't think he's
Speaker 1: as fast as he is until he's striding down the
Speaker 1: feet like that. Well he wasn't. He wasn't even killing
Speaker 1: us with his feet. So, I mean, he he had
Speaker 1: some nice runs, but he'll just he'll take a blitz
Speaker 1: and linebacker shake him off like he weighs one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty pounds and then sort of dance out to
Speaker 1: the sideline and throw it to a wide open receiver.
Speaker 1: Matt Jones by far my favorite player to ever play
Speaker 1: at Arkansas because he was his Yeah it is no
Speaker 1: but but he came back and won the next year.
Speaker 1: But but Matt was. I mean, he was just this big, tall,
Speaker 1: white kid that was faster than everyone thought. He could
Speaker 1: play receiver, could play quarterback, played basketball, He was a
Speaker 1: great dunker. He just he was he was awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fitting that I'm wearing his jersey because it's also
Speaker 1: John Stephen Jones, true Gary's grandson. Third stream quarterback Matt Jones.
Speaker 1: He tortured us for like it felt like five years
Speaker 1: the Hail Mary game and Little Rock and and LSU
Speaker 1: had an what I think, we won six in a row,
Speaker 1: and so it's fitting they they tortured us on Saturday.
Speaker 1: But the gut when it gets over time, I mean
Speaker 1: just like we were saying over time's terrible. But um
Speaker 1: but we you know, through an interception and then our
Speaker 1: freshman kicker makes the kick and then I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that this was an LSU dance. Yeah, I just thought
Speaker 1: it was like the new popular dance that all the
Speaker 1: kids are doing. But it's an LSU dance. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: it's the gritty Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson made it
Speaker 1: a thing during the National championship season. They danced in
Speaker 1: the ends and well they so our kicker, who looked
Speaker 1: more like, yeah he did our dance on our field.
Speaker 1: After he walked off like it, I like, hey, that's
Speaker 1: almost I can't act like I don't like I'm the
Speaker 1: kids that dude get the get like this song, y'all
Speaker 1: play somebody did that like earlier this year. Yeah, after
Speaker 1: they beat we've freaking birl If they beat beat LSU,
Speaker 1: We've lost like five games, six games. I can't keep
Speaker 1: track of it anymore, but it's I'd do it all
Speaker 1: over again for the twenty nineteen season. But it's been
Speaker 1: rough times for the Fighting Tigers and all all credit,
Speaker 1: all all credit to the hog fan. They played a
Speaker 1: better game, and I love you know this. I love
Speaker 1: to LSU loves to act like Arkansas is kind of
Speaker 1: beneath them. We don't really treat them as a rivalry.
Speaker 1: But I don't like it when they have the boot.
Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. But no, I'm like,
Speaker 1: as soon as Arkansas breaks the streak, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need that back not to get caught. I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask for someone who has an LSU logo tattooed
Speaker 1: on his arm, how does it feel to wear an
Speaker 1: Arkansas jersey? I mean, I don't like it, but I
Speaker 1: would feel worse fields Obama jersey. No, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I just said I want to beat them. I definitely
Speaker 1: don't like that they have the boot, but like Arkansas's
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth on my on my to do rivalry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just so we know, just so, I mean, as I said,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sweep the floor here this year, and
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm talking about you haven't had a year
Speaker 1: and it's never happened. But when I'm in the floor,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about upstairs where we work. Because Texas, Derek
Speaker 1: out A and m Rob finally out LSU and then
Speaker 1: Mickey Missouri, We're coming for you and that will be
Speaker 1: man and will Yeah, that will be the game. I
Speaker 1: didn't say anything about Alabama this week. That's fine, true,
Speaker 1: we don't have we don't have many Bama grads. Bet
Speaker 1: with Mickey, Mickey, I'll try to. I'll try to real
Speaker 1: quick to tie this back into any Sure, there's playing
Speaker 1: a cowboy fans that don't care about college football. But
Speaker 1: I was thinking about cowboy fans on Saturday night again. Well,
Speaker 1: she was awful by our standards, and I went, I
Speaker 1: was like, we're playing with house money. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be fun. And by the second quarter, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not having fun. I hate how much I want
Speaker 1: to win this game. I feel and it reminded me
Speaker 1: of last year where it's easy to just write it
Speaker 1: off and be like, oh, we suck. I don't care.
Speaker 1: But every weekend you're still sitting there on the couch
Speaker 1: just exactly why am I so invested? It's ridiculous. I
Speaker 1: did that in the in the Region final Arkansas Baylor.
Speaker 1: We'd already won three games to almost get to the
Speaker 1: Final four. Baylor so good, We're not gonna be Baylor.
Speaker 1: It's fine, I'm not I'm fine. Whatever happens happens. I
Speaker 1: broke my remote when they got down five to nothing,
Speaker 1: five to nothing, I broke the remote. Batteries were flying
Speaker 1: all over that all. I was like, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: You can you say that you you're good, but you're not.
Speaker 1: You wanna talk about your team, Well, it's the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. I couldn't turn it off this weekend. And
Speaker 1: I was like, before the game, I told myself I
Speaker 1: had plans, we were going out to dinner with friends.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just not tuning in. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna let them ruin my night. And I'm at dinner
Speaker 1: with my freaking phone out turning game, like I can't
Speaker 1: believe we're battling against freaking one in eight Kansas and
Speaker 1: they're kicking our butts and then we pull back and
Speaker 1: get to overtime and losing overtime. It's a it's a disease.
Speaker 1: I love it so much. I say this all the time.
Speaker 1: You hear you, hear me make this speech all the time.
Speaker 1: And it happens with Cowboy fans that are listening to you.
Speaker 1: Don't choose to be a Texas fan or an LSU fan,
Speaker 1: or Arkasas fan or a Cowboys fan. I mean, it
Speaker 1: chooses you. It does. It chooses you unless you spend
Speaker 1: a lot of money there and then it becomes a
Speaker 1: choice that they made for you to something that's true.
Speaker 1: But but to be a fan. Yeah, it's not a
Speaker 1: it is it's it's it ropes you in. If you
Speaker 1: have the choice to take it or leave it, then
Speaker 1: we're not for you. This is just this show. This
Speaker 1: show is not for you us. Saturdays are great. I
Speaker 1: never get anything. You should leave it that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of vious. Don't le anybody rope you into college. Else.
Speaker 1: I sit there on Saturdays with like a bourbon in
Speaker 1: my hand. I'm like, I could be out, I could
Speaker 1: be out at dinner, I could be seeing friends. But
Speaker 1: I'm letting a bunch of teenagers dictate my happiness of
Speaker 1: my life choice that is that is absolutely ridiculous. All Right,
Speaker 1: all right, that's enough for college football, because I really
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about college football anymore, all right,
Speaker 1: So let's get back to the Cowboys. Michael Gallup returned yesterday.
Speaker 1: He three catches for forty two yards, including that big
Speaker 1: fourth down reception we talked about. Talk to me about
Speaker 1: like how that all played out from standpoint of him
Speaker 1: coming back and Cedric Wilson, who has been kind of
Speaker 1: the guy that has stepped up in his absence and
Speaker 1: played really well, they kind of went from one end
Speaker 1: the spectrum to the other, like he didn't play. I
Speaker 1: think he had one snap yesterday. Is it the injury?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's going on with him, and I have to
Speaker 1: think that, yeah, I mean, because he was banged up
Speaker 1: and they just didn't need another guy out there to
Speaker 1: I mean, they probably was like a wait and see,
Speaker 1: see how you feel. And but yeah, he didn't return
Speaker 1: punts early like early in the game, he didn't even
Speaker 1: go out there to return punts, So I was thinking
Speaker 1: maybe he was going to be inactive, so they just
Speaker 1: didn't have to press it with him. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: because if you look at it, it's not even Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallo came back and had a nice game, but
Speaker 1: Noah Brown got snaps, Turner got snaps. I think he was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was targeted in the end zone. Um, so they're
Speaker 1: never just gonna be a team that we have three
Speaker 1: guys and only three got no they rotate everybody. So
Speaker 1: I think it was he is not all the way
Speaker 1: healthy and we definitely don't need him if we're scoring
Speaker 1: twenty nine points in a quarter. One thing that was
Speaker 1: surprising to me yesterday in this game was Cowboys win big, obviously,
Speaker 1: but the running game didn't seem to have the yards
Speaker 1: you would normally see in a blowout. Zeke Whin fourteen
Speaker 1: carries for forty one yards a two point nine average,
Speaker 1: not great according to his standards Pollard Win eleven carries
Speaker 1: for forty two yards three point eight average, again not great. Well,
Speaker 1: you got surprised at all that they didn't get much
Speaker 1: out of their running game yesterday in a game that
Speaker 1: was a bit of a blowout or not a bit
Speaker 1: of a definitely a blowout. I have a few thoughts.
Speaker 1: You can go ahead a few yeah, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: a little surprised too when in our view of how
Speaker 1: Atlanta plays their safety so far back and so they
Speaker 1: weren't like really really loading up to stop the run
Speaker 1: because they were making sure they didn't get beat with
Speaker 1: deep balls. You didn't see a lot of that either,
Speaker 1: so it was kind of an odd defense. And when
Speaker 1: you think of the score and all that stuff, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would have thought a little bit more rushing yards.
Speaker 1: The stats were a little weird for a forty point
Speaker 1: game like that. They weren't as gaudy as you would think.
Speaker 1: I think Dave makes a good point. They pulled the
Speaker 1: starters in the middle third quarter, so that that that
Speaker 1: helps some of that and plush when your when you
Speaker 1: get eight points just from block punt and a touchdown,
Speaker 1: I mean that that adds to it. That doesn't show
Speaker 1: up on stats. On top of everything about that is right,
Speaker 1: the passing game was just working early on. And again
Speaker 1: that goes back to and I don't I haven't watched
Speaker 1: the tape. I don't know how similarly they played it,
Speaker 1: but that goes back to Dak and Mike McCarthy's point
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, please play us that way, Please play
Speaker 1: us the way that you think is a blueprint to
Speaker 1: stop us. We can throw on you if you if
Speaker 1: that's what you want us to do. So I think
Speaker 1: it's a combination of that. I think it's worth pointing
Speaker 1: out probably thirty rushing yards got called back by holding penalties,
Speaker 1: whether they were bogus or not bogus, So Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: had at least two nice runs get wiped out by calls.
Speaker 1: And then not only do you pull the starters, but
Speaker 1: you're running the ball all through the late game just
Speaker 1: trying to get out of there, a lot of it
Speaker 1: being Corey Clement running behind backups, which is gonna kill
Speaker 1: your average. So I think that three point three average
Speaker 1: by it. And then and then also to Nick's point,
Speaker 1: anytime you get a like I don't want to call
Speaker 1: it a game swinging touchdown, but the punt block just
Speaker 1: kind of sealed the competitive part of the game, right,
Speaker 1: And that requires no there's no drive there, there's no offense.
Speaker 1: So that's a whole point swing that's taken away just
Speaker 1: by a special team's play. So stuff like that kind
Speaker 1: of makes the box score look quonky. Sometimes it was
Speaker 1: nice watching the game and being like, you know, because
Speaker 1: a lot of times before we watched the game, we're like,
Speaker 1: why are they not running the ball? Run the freaking ball?
Speaker 1: And it wasn't one of those It's just like where
Speaker 1: that just became a secondary thing in the back of
Speaker 1: your head. I did, It didn't even come to my mind.
Speaker 1: So actually you're saying that, I'm like, oh, okay, I
Speaker 1: didn't even realize that. That's just how well the passing
Speaker 1: game was working. That's just how well they were utilizing
Speaker 1: all their different weapons to the point where you weren't
Speaker 1: even upset at them not running the ball as much,
Speaker 1: not utilize and Zeke as much. I think he did enough.
Speaker 1: He did what he needed to do. He got in
Speaker 1: the end zone too, So it's like it was just
Speaker 1: working and it's just going to happen that way sometimes
Speaker 1: depending on who the opponent is. I do also, I
Speaker 1: remember it feels it's completely irrelevant and feels like ancient history.
Speaker 1: But in the early part of the game, when it
Speaker 1: was still in doubt, I remember being like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: running on first and second and long a lot, and
Speaker 1: I don't like it with how the pass is working.
Speaker 1: So and they're gonna tell you you still have to
Speaker 1: establish that and that's part of balance. I get it.
Speaker 1: But one thing was working really well, and that's I know,
Speaker 1: running the ball is always conducive to success, but whatever
Speaker 1: I mean, if the pass is working, take it. I
Speaker 1: don't care for your thoughts on the offensive line yesterday,
Speaker 1: Conna Williams continues to have some issues with regards the
Speaker 1: penalties and what were your thoughts overall if you're looking
Speaker 1: for a negative from a lady point when that's probably it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean monro the old off the offensive Connor Williams,
Speaker 1: to be clear, and I'm not trying to pick on
Speaker 1: the guy, but I think he got flagged three times yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one wouldn't call it back, but I mean it was
Speaker 1: a touch was that the touchdown? It was a fumble
Speaker 1: on Zeke Um declined fumbled at the end of the run.
Speaker 1: Was gonna he was gonna wipe out that play too
Speaker 1: if he didn't wut the penalty on the touchdown. The
Speaker 1: play we're talking about earlier where Dak at the I
Speaker 1: mean Zeke passed it no brown brown down the field,
Speaker 1: but he I think there were it was two holdings
Speaker 1: in a chop block like that call. It was two
Speaker 1: holdings in a chop block on the same play. No, No,
Speaker 1: Connor got flagged for two holdings in a chop block,
Speaker 1: and I think one of the holdings was kind of bogus.
Speaker 1: Sorry and got away on the on the chop block,
Speaker 1: I mean, because I heard this in the press block,
Speaker 1: it just kind of fell he kind of he fell
Speaker 1: down like that there down to press box. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm the Dallas Cowboys have never committed a penalty in
Speaker 1: the eyes of Mickey Spa. And the thing about Mickey's
Speaker 1: got his headphones on right because he's watching the game
Speaker 1: and it's just always gonna be louder. So he's just
Speaker 1: you know, he's just like, I don't realize he has
Speaker 1: a hit phone done. I guess. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was doing that bad call refs he fell down
Speaker 1: or he fell down, you know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was, but like he was frustrated with him for
Speaker 1: falling down or whether it was the rest Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but Connor heard it. You know, he turned back and
Speaker 1: he was like, you can you can nitpick it all
Speaker 1: you want. Maybe maybe he should have only been flagged once.
Speaker 1: He got flagged three times. I think so that I
Speaker 1: think that puts him at twelve on the year's let's
Speaker 1: talk about this, can he I mean, clearly they would
Speaker 1: put Connor McGovern in there if they thought he was better, right,
Speaker 1: because Connor McGovern's under contract, he's probably gonna be here.
Speaker 1: Connor Williams is probably not going to be here. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think. You know, somebody brought this up
Speaker 1: yesterday and I kind of just dismissed it. But I'm
Speaker 1: starting to wonder if maybe there is something to it.
Speaker 1: Is the sub package that they use for Connor McGovern
Speaker 1: the reason maybe why they're not willing to do that
Speaker 1: because they see value in what they're doing with him
Speaker 1: there fifty over ten though. I mean, I said, I
Speaker 1: get it, and you're right, That's why I dismissed it.
Speaker 1: But then after I was doing it later, I was like,
Speaker 1: but there's it's hard for me to believe McGovern is
Speaker 1: not as at least as good. And if he's the
Speaker 1: guy you think maybe here longer, why wouldn't if he's
Speaker 1: not trying, you know, he's worse. He got a penalty too. Now,
Speaker 1: let don't forget he got in there and second he
Speaker 1: played for Zach and he got a penalty. But let's
Speaker 1: don't underestimate what's happening with McGovern because this is not
Speaker 1: a fun, cute thing that Kellen Moore's doing. This is
Speaker 1: a needed thing. They need a fullback, they need short
Speaker 1: yardage running, and he's providing that. He's a big body guy,
Speaker 1: bigger than any fullback, but agile enough to get I
Speaker 1: mean that's one thing. Get your ass up there. I mean,
Speaker 1: like get off the ball because Zeke and Poller are
Speaker 1: coming quick. So and he does that. He's doing a
Speaker 1: really good job. That's blocking in space because a lot
Speaker 1: of times, you know, a big guy like that, I
Speaker 1: mean Micah Parsons is showing on the other side, he
Speaker 1: can like slither past you and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: it's not as easy as you think just to block
Speaker 1: in space for a big guard like that. I think
Speaker 1: he's doing a great job. I think it's needed and
Speaker 1: it's helping these red zones. So I don't want to
Speaker 1: take that away. But something's got to happen to left guard,
Speaker 1: can't I mean, couldn't you teach Connor Williams to do that?
Speaker 1: I think you could do it. I don't a good point,
Speaker 1: I just I mean, what we've always heard about him
Speaker 1: is that he's athletics more than strong tackle. Not trying
Speaker 1: to take away from Connor McGovern, but I just got
Speaker 1: to imagine you could that that's not a skill set
Speaker 1: that no one else has. That's all I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Um, Yeah, I think so, I think,
Speaker 1: and you you hear whispers of this around the facility.
Speaker 1: It's it's different right now because Tyron Smith is hurt,
Speaker 1: and I think they don't want to mess with the
Speaker 1: continuity or just the vibe while they're arguably best linemen
Speaker 1: or at least one A and one B with Zach
Speaker 1: while he's out. But when Tyrone's back healthy playing left tackle,
Speaker 1: I think, I think that job's up for grabs, honestly,
Speaker 1: and I don't They might not ever make some big
Speaker 1: announcement about it, but that gives you the two Connors
Speaker 1: and depending I just assume Terrence Steele will move back
Speaker 1: to the right tackle when Tyron's healthy. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: then throw a Lyle Collins in there and between the
Speaker 1: three the way back up. You said you think still
Speaker 1: will go back to right tackle. I think so, Lyle.
Speaker 1: I think so. Really, that's that's kind of that's not
Speaker 1: something we've really talked about before they did it. They
Speaker 1: already did that when Lyle came back from his suspension.
Speaker 1: They were like, no, Steal's good here, Steals good at
Speaker 1: right tackle. It wasn't that also because of the continuity,
Speaker 1: the continuity, and I thought we'd even talked about it
Speaker 1: last week that you know, maybe the reason why you
Speaker 1: move Steele is because you're thinking, hey, we want to
Speaker 1: get we want to get a Lyle back into shape
Speaker 1: so that when Tyron comes back, he's in his normal spot.
Speaker 1: I can't predict to a certainty what they're gonna do,
Speaker 1: and Lyle played really well yesterday, but I don't. But
Speaker 1: you think, again, left guards your problem spot. Else is
Speaker 1: another guy that can play left guard. If you're trying
Speaker 1: to fit that, moving Steel to right tackle gives you
Speaker 1: as many options as I could see that scenario. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see that. That's that makes not an issue
Speaker 1: of Lyle being not as good at right tackle, but
Speaker 1: give you the most position playing. I understand that. And
Speaker 1: if it's a situation where they moved in the guard,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. If you're saying Steel moves back and
Speaker 1: Lyle goes to the bitch, I have a hard time
Speaker 1: seeing that. Yeah, I don't see that either. And I think, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think if they would have decided to put Steele
Speaker 1: to replace him at right tackle when Tyrant comes back,
Speaker 1: I feel like they just would have put Tyrant. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like all over there. Yeah, but I really like
Speaker 1: that left guard spot. Now I think I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that might need to be the it happens.
Speaker 1: It's it's a really interesting conversation because and I'm the
Speaker 1: one that just said, you moved Steal back to right tackle,
Speaker 1: but Tyrant getting hurt is maybe a blessing in disguise
Speaker 1: in the sense that you don't technically have to bench
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele. You know, you didn't want to pull him
Speaker 1: off after he played so well and be like sorry, kid,
Speaker 1: but now he had to switch jobs and the old
Speaker 1: starters back in his old spot playing well. It's a
Speaker 1: little smoother of a transition than just yanking the guy
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. So there's a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: stuff they could do. Point being, trust me, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have left guard circled as a concern, and once Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith is back healthy, I think it's at least something
Speaker 1: that they're going to look at I don't. They don't
Speaker 1: have blinders on about this. Especially they already knew penalties
Speaker 1: were a problem, and he just got three more. I
Speaker 1: mean you can't ignore that. Ye all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the defense. There are some
Speaker 1: big plays and some some players that play really well
Speaker 1: yesterday on defense. We'll talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: last night. So maybe they're rounding into form, just the
Speaker 1: time for the Cowboys to go for a visit. You
Speaker 1: know what this is? This is everything you want? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is absolutely Randy Well oh yeah no, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying I want I want them to be good when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go there, because this was the game that
Speaker 1: we all looked at electric when the schedule came out, like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good Sun's gonna set it
Speaker 1: like four pm. Arrowhead, gonna be a lot of Cowboy fans.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like forty two degrees. Absolutely, millions, it's millions.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be at least like it's gonna be at
Speaker 1: least seventy thirty. Yes, and that's what like cool story, Denver,
Speaker 1: You that's awesome. Guess what Cowboy fans do that every
Speaker 1: freaking time. They go on years? Remember eight years. They
Speaker 1: knew that the twenty twenty one game. In twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: they were like, man, remember last year when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs, Like, when are they going to
Speaker 1: come back twenty twenty one? If you're still alive, come
Speaker 1: to the game, Like that's what? Well, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, eight years hard to play in anything, but
Speaker 1: Arrowhead was my first NFL road game, was it? Yep?
Speaker 1: What happened on the bush? Brian brought us always tell story.
Speaker 1: He's very consistent with the storytelling, and it's a good story.
Speaker 1: It's a good story. Always tells the same story about
Speaker 1: Monni Kiffin. Monnie Kiffin fell asleep on his shoulder led
Speaker 1: a after seventeen sixteen, Mo Claiborne drew a DPI on
Speaker 1: a cruise on a must have third down. What he
Speaker 1: said in the press conference, I'll never forget to call
Speaker 1: it a press conference, is not a press conference. And
Speaker 1: he sat at his locker, facing into his locker. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: wouldn't turn around to like, you know he said that
Speaker 1: was Mo. Yeah, you know. It was his second year
Speaker 1: in the league. Um, He's just like, I do it again.
Speaker 1: That's the way I play like. It was third and
Speaker 1: eight and it was like a slant for three yards.
Speaker 1: I mean, catch the ball, tackle him and you punt
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys have a chance to win this and
Speaker 1: he just dove on the guy pi first down. Game
Speaker 1: was over and he was like, that's I would do
Speaker 1: it again. And we were lolling, really because if you
Speaker 1: did it again and you can't, oh okay, as it's funny.
Speaker 1: And then I called I can't believe I said Mo yesterday.
Speaker 1: I was doing that all day twenty four. I was
Speaker 1: like Mos out there and who Kelvin Joseph hey Lsue cornerback.
Speaker 1: Is it funny that Mo goes and wins a championship
Speaker 1: with Kansas City? Then, I mean just letting you know.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to die. Yeah, he wasn't like a
Speaker 1: major player or that team he was on. He was
Speaker 1: on the one hundred and thirty pounds. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: about that, And the answer Chris is no. I think
Speaker 1: about that all the time. Like Anthony Hinchins has gone
Speaker 1: on to great success with the Chiefs. He won a
Speaker 1: super Bowl with them, and people are like, oh see
Speaker 1: what happens. I'm like, no, the Cowboys played that perfectly.
Speaker 1: Like and by the way, people are killing him absolutely.
Speaker 1: Who bands are killing him? Right? They have? They have
Speaker 1: a few guys, don't think I know Blake Bells back
Speaker 1: with them, back with Casey. I believe Charvarius Word is
Speaker 1: still there. Um, that was a weird one. By the way,
Speaker 1: Damian Wilson left, He's not there anymore. Remember him, Charvarius
Speaker 1: were we could talk about? Oh well, actually tomorrow it's
Speaker 1: cruel tomorrow. Tomorrow we got one of our old lunch
Speaker 1: breaks coming back through for a little visit. Miss Dio
Speaker 1: Wall who is now a news reporter, like she's big
Speaker 1: time now, she's a news anchor up in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: She's going to be joining us tomorrow talk a little
Speaker 1: bit of Chiefs with her, what her thoughts are on
Speaker 1: that Chief's team and what it's like there the city
Speaker 1: following the Chiefs. So we'll do that tomorrow. It'll be fun.
Speaker 1: That sounds cool. Yeah, I mean we'll get a chance
Speaker 1: to catch up with her a weekends. It's fun because
Speaker 1: I just said, like, I mean, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: must CTV. Some mahomes and dak and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But even after this raid is when I assume everybody
Speaker 1: in case he's still kind of hanging out on the
Speaker 1: ledge just like we thought. We thought we were gonna
Speaker 1: be ten to know what the hell is going on?
Speaker 1: You know what was interesting and it's rare to happen.
Speaker 1: You know, you have a noon game, you go home,
Speaker 1: you watch the game, and I bet I guarantee a
Speaker 1: lot of the Cowboys coaches are watching it. Because if
Speaker 1: we think about it, and the next ten days, right man,
Speaker 1: the next eleven days and the next eleven days, you're
Speaker 1: both teams. You've got both these teams because you got
Speaker 1: so I mean, you're studying. It's good opportunities to look
Speaker 1: at both of these teams, and I think I think
Speaker 1: the Raiders game is going to be tough. I honestly,
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys can get two and one out of
Speaker 1: these next three, that will be huge for them because
Speaker 1: I mean, these next three games are gonna be tough, Chiefs, Raiders,
Speaker 1: and then Saints on the road. And say what you
Speaker 1: want to say about those teams and how they're performing
Speaker 1: this year, they still are going to be tough. And
Speaker 1: I think before the season we all circled this three
Speaker 1: game stretch it's in. This might be the mediest part
Speaker 1: of their schedule, and I think it still is. Regardless
Speaker 1: what you think of their records right now, I would
Speaker 1: which first of all, I think they have the potential
Speaker 1: to win all three of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: Even one and two is fine as long as the
Speaker 1: win is New Orleans. Again, the AFC NFC thing, I mean,
Speaker 1: you would prefer that not to happen, but you can
Speaker 1: serve so what you would be eight and four and four? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you did the thing about is both both NFC
Speaker 1: team eaton NFC East teams that played yesterday One you
Speaker 1: didn't expect them, either of them to win, but they
Speaker 1: both won, so they're kind of hanging around there. Somebody
Speaker 1: on Twitter said to me, like, go, like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know, Like, congratulations Cowboys. You beat a five hundred team.
Speaker 1: You know. Great. I'm like, well, that's good because that's
Speaker 1: about all that's left on the schedule, right, that's the
Speaker 1: That's what the NFL is. I mean, the teams you've
Speaker 1: got on the schedule, including the Chiefs. What are they?
Speaker 1: They're six and four? Now, yeah, so I mean Raiders
Speaker 1: are right there above, and the Saints are a little
Speaker 1: bit above, and you know, Arizona is good, but I
Speaker 1: mean some of these other ones are down even lower
Speaker 1: than that. So that that's what the NFL is. So cool,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you you know, and that's such a
Speaker 1: dumb argument too. You beat a team no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you annihilated a team like that. You annihilated a the
Speaker 1: seventh seed in the playoffs. You annihilated them by forty
Speaker 1: points because you were pissed off. Can't stress enough how
Speaker 1: rare that is forty points or you know, it works,
Speaker 1: It always goes this way. The Carolina game is a
Speaker 1: perfect example. You go up big, you pull your guys,
Speaker 1: you kind of take your foot off the gas, and
Speaker 1: the final scores eight points because they pay their guys too,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna keep trying. And then you're questioning whether
Speaker 1: dig should have come out, Like that's the NFL. It
Speaker 1: is not normal to go up forty and stay up forty,
Speaker 1: like even when the starters come out, you're still in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, right right, This was one of those
Speaker 1: you saying bolts like killing everybody in running and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden the end, he's kind of like waving
Speaker 1: already and blowing kisses and all that, you know, like
Speaker 1: the last yeah, yeah, the last two or three. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like that's that's what that was. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was forty points off the gas for the final. We
Speaker 1: didn't even talking about the defensive line, No they did,
Speaker 1: We didn't. We haven't said the name, like I on
Speaker 1: what was it Friday when we were talking about the
Speaker 1: game and all that, Like, I personally thought that this
Speaker 1: defense wouldn't be able to piece it all together without
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory in the lineup. So I really thought that
Speaker 1: him missing that game was going to affect the defense
Speaker 1: overall in all three levels. So and they didn't, and
Speaker 1: a guy like Dorian's Armstrong surprised me. He did an
Speaker 1: extent been of a surprise, right, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: kind of oh, this is kind of who this guy
Speaker 1: has been through training camp all this year, going back
Speaker 1: to training camp, he's been as solid as you want
Speaker 1: from that position, and he had another solid game. But
Speaker 1: he stepped up this game like a game, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes it happens where you need a guy to step
Speaker 1: up and then they just don't come to play because
Speaker 1: he's giving more. He has more on his shoulder, right,
Speaker 1: so he has more responsibility in the game and there
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't show up to that level. But he did.
Speaker 1: And then you we talked about Mica Parsons that we
Speaker 1: were trying to figure out what they we're gonna do
Speaker 1: with him, Well, he worked out pretty well. And then Mica,
Speaker 1: I mean he again was able to rush the passer
Speaker 1: and do all that while he needed to get done.
Speaker 1: So to me, I can't believe we won this long
Speaker 1: we talked about every time. I can't believe we got
Speaker 1: fifty minutes in before we said the name Dorian's Armstrong
Speaker 1: and that's not okay, which bringing us back to football, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Cowboys. Hey, when we go got college football, Amber's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, I'm out on this conversation. It's I
Speaker 1: like my Saturdays. I'm not gonna I can't go there
Speaker 1: with you just be I say it all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you do in training camp. I've
Speaker 1: been burned too many times by that. And it's not
Speaker 1: it's not all Doran's his fault. He twisted his ankle,
Speaker 1: he was out for a while. McCarthy said yesterday he
Speaker 1: was kind of he felt like he was knocking the
Speaker 1: rust off against Denver last week. But this is still
Speaker 1: I think he had two and a half career sacks
Speaker 1: coming into this game, so he gets twenty thirty percent
Speaker 1: of his career total just by getting one and then
Speaker 1: adding a pump block to it. That's what we've always known.
Speaker 1: He's a special team's beast and to show up that
Speaker 1: way and create a touchdown. Can't get over that stat
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a stat nerd of course, I just
Speaker 1: can't get over the fact that the last player that
Speaker 1: did that in the NFL blocked a punt and sacked
Speaker 1: I got a sack in the same game was Terrell
Speaker 1: Basham for the Jets, so the guy on the left
Speaker 1: side of the line. Then the last defensive end to
Speaker 1: do it was Robert Quinn, who also played for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: To it just shows a sense of versatility that to
Speaker 1: do that and you don't see guys that are that
Speaker 1: are you know, the best pass rusher on the team
Speaker 1: for that game also, but he's staying on special teams.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure Bones was like, no, we still
Speaker 1: need you yeah on there, and Derek, you and I
Speaker 1: actually both called that, And then that's rare because we
Speaker 1: were always thinking like, well, probably don't want to rush
Speaker 1: the punt here, but the score was out of hand.
Speaker 1: Literally right before happen, We're both like, yeah, yeah, go
Speaker 1: for it. I would go for the block, and You're
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, like you're probably only gonna get
Speaker 1: a five yard and You're like, I don't care if
Speaker 1: you get fifteen, go rush it now the black part
Speaker 1: touch down. I had a moment last night where I
Speaker 1: realized that I'm already taking Micah Parsons for granted, because
Speaker 1: we huddle after every game and kind of talk about
Speaker 1: what needs to be written about what the major storylines were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically I was halftime I was like, y'a so. I
Speaker 1: think Nick was like yeah so, and then Mica obviously,
Speaker 1: And in my head I'm like, really, like, Mica, you
Speaker 1: do that much. This is just in my head. I
Speaker 1: go home and start watching you know, highlights and press
Speaker 1: conference clippings. I'm like, oh, yeah, he had another sack
Speaker 1: and another tackle for loss, and kind oh yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was an absolutely phenomenal play. He's got what six
Speaker 1: on the season. Now, just get him on the field.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of arguing about what to do with them
Speaker 1: and all that. I just think, you know, and I'll
Speaker 1: say this people that still want to say that, this
Speaker 1: isn't the year for it. This isn't the year. He's
Speaker 1: a linebacker. You hope to get these two defensive ends back,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be great now next year. If you
Speaker 1: want to make him a rusher, that's fine. He won't
Speaker 1: be a pass rusher with Gregory Andy Law. I mean,
Speaker 1: because someone's gonna have to give there. I could see
Speaker 1: if they want to make that move, but I think
Speaker 1: for right now, where this team is, I think he's
Speaker 1: better as a linebacker. And then rush him all over
Speaker 1: the place, you don't sure where he's gonna line up
Speaker 1: at times. It's funny. I thought about this this morning too.
Speaker 1: When you're good, you're going to be in line for
Speaker 1: a lot of awards, right, Like DA's in the MVP race.
Speaker 1: We have no idea if he'll win it. We won't
Speaker 1: know that for a long time come back Player of
Speaker 1: the Year, come sure, Absolutely, Treyvon Diggs, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: in the chase for Defensive Player of the Year. But
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett's having a hell of a season. Like they're
Speaker 1: all these variables. I'm telling you right now, Mike is
Speaker 1: gonna win Defensive Rookie of the Year. I don't have
Speaker 1: a question. I can't imagine a scenario where he doesn't
Speaker 1: unless he gets hurt, which knock on wood, Like it's
Speaker 1: not even close. Like Patrick Surtan's having a nice season,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have the stats that I mean talking
Speaker 1: about a guy that plays linebacker that's got six and
Speaker 1: a half sacks, right, that's is that the number six
Speaker 1: at six six six oh No, six six sacks, six
Speaker 1: sacks at the halfway point of the season, to go
Speaker 1: with like twelve tackles for loss, and he's gonna finish
Speaker 1: with north of one hundred tackles, like, just send it
Speaker 1: to him, got to be historic. Send it to him now.
Speaker 1: And there's no competence. More than anything, it's just the
Speaker 1: fact that he has the ability to do all of
Speaker 1: that stuff as a rookie. They're putting all this on
Speaker 1: this plate to be able to learn this. And that's
Speaker 1: why running backs typically do a pretty good job as
Speaker 1: rookies because they come in and they know what they
Speaker 1: gotta do. They run the ball, corners, same thing, cover
Speaker 1: your guy, but linebacker to do all these things. Ever
Speaker 1: since they took the Green Dot off, he has been
Speaker 1: even better, Like he has at the Green Dot yesterday.
Speaker 1: Because I noticed Jeffer Curs only had seventy well I
Speaker 1: don't he only had like seventy seventy percent of the plays.
Speaker 1: It made me think that somebody else may have had.
Speaker 1: Curse made a great play, by the way, because not
Speaker 1: only did earlier in the game, not only did he
Speaker 1: knock the guy the ball away, but he was the
Speaker 1: only one that knew it. Like he turned around and
Speaker 1: he was like challenging challenges, that awesome challenge, and he
Speaker 1: I think he saw it hit the ground, yeah, or
Speaker 1: heard it maybe even maybe How do you miss that.
Speaker 1: All these refs out there, don't get me started. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of eyeballs. And I didn't see that it
Speaker 1: is I saw it from the press. Can we just
Speaker 1: mentioned Jordan Lewis's name. I was actually would let me
Speaker 1: get to him. This is what we get for doing
Speaker 1: twelve minutes on college football. That's true. Sorry, talk about
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis man yesterday he had I thought early in
Speaker 1: the game it seemed like they that was their wal
Speaker 1: though they were going after him. They wanted to challenge him.
Speaker 1: They thought he was the weak link, and he was
Speaker 1: play after play, making plays on the ball and making
Speaker 1: sure they weren't completing passes. Probably from the time I
Speaker 1: saw the scene in All or Nothing four years ago
Speaker 1: when Jordan Lewis as a rookie just took it to
Speaker 1: Deaz at practice just basically got in a fight with him,
Speaker 1: like had called the whole team out and went one
Speaker 1: on one. I was like, I of this guy. I
Speaker 1: like everything about him. I like the tenacity, the swagger.
Speaker 1: He's not a Pro Bowl cornerback, he's five ten. That
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't matter. I mean he he got a break
Speaker 1: up on Kyle Pitts yesterday, and that is about as
Speaker 1: much of a mismatch in terms of size as you
Speaker 1: can find in the NFL. A pro maybe five nine cornerback.
Speaker 1: They skying up on a mutant, a six six freak
Speaker 1: of an athlete, and he's just uh he he, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm rambling. He just everything about the way Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: approaches the game. I love. He's the swagger, the nacity,
Speaker 1: the can do attitude. Love it. The best thing that
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey does. They're not the best thing, but one
Speaker 1: of the best things for him is Tyreek Hill, you know,
Speaker 1: because you can't just put the best corner back on
Speaker 1: Kelsey Atlanta. I'm telling you now, they got to get
Speaker 1: Riddley back. Hopefully he's he'll be fine, and that that's
Speaker 1: a you know, big story for him. Hopefully he gets back,
Speaker 1: you know, for him for his sake. But also they
Speaker 1: need another playmaking receiver because if they don't, then you
Speaker 1: will just continue to put corners on Kyle Pitts and
Speaker 1: the Tree be a big old receiver that he probably
Speaker 1: won't be special until unless he's a tight end. You
Speaker 1: gotta give him some help so he can create more
Speaker 1: mismatches because as it stands right now, you're just not
Speaker 1: as worried about the other guys, but that you're right,
Speaker 1: You're totally right. But that's what's so amazing is like
Speaker 1: Trayvon digs On Kyle Pitts is at least a fair fight.
Speaker 1: You know, Trayvon's a big, long guy. He can go
Speaker 1: up and get the football. Jordan Lewis has just giving
Speaker 1: up so much side height and weight to that player
Speaker 1: and to be able to defend him anyway incredibly impressive.
Speaker 1: The ball wasn't high enough. Thing it needs to be,
Speaker 1: you know, fair. I mean, I mean rebounds, big guys
Speaker 1: get it, loose balls on the ground, little guys get
Speaker 1: it so that that that ball's got to be up higher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that Ryan definitely didn't have his best day, and
Speaker 1: it goes back to he goes we were talking about
Speaker 1: on Friday. You know, maybe there was some thing too
Speaker 1: how Quinn knows him and knows him really well that
Speaker 1: he created situations that maybe he knows he doesn't doesn't
Speaker 1: choose to be in buss you that he doesn't choose
Speaker 1: to be in and he doesn't play his best in
Speaker 1: So all around, I just think it was a really
Speaker 1: really well coached game and a really really well played
Speaker 1: game for the Cowboys. This isn't it's not important toward
Speaker 1: like the success of the team or any of that,
Speaker 1: But just on a personal I'm so happy that Jordan
Speaker 1: and Anthony Brown both are getting picks, basically because so
Speaker 1: much goes into cornerback play that you never get credit for.
Speaker 1: People really only want to look at your picks or
Speaker 1: what you're giving up. That's It was so amazing when
Speaker 1: Byron Jones was named All Pro with like one interception
Speaker 1: in twenty or zero. I'm sorry, yeah, that's that's incredible.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen because the position is judged by picks.
Speaker 1: So both of those guys get like they're not going
Speaker 1: to get named to the Pro Bowl. But they're having
Speaker 1: really solid seasons and are They are contributing to the
Speaker 1: success of this defense in a real way, and it's
Speaker 1: nice for it to pay off for them. With the
Speaker 1: stat line that makes people notice, Like we notice because
Speaker 1: we are paid to watch every down. But now you
Speaker 1: look at it, you're like, damn, Anthony Brown's got three picks,
Speaker 1: that's a career high. Jordan Lewis has two picks. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: he only had five or four on his career coming
Speaker 1: into the year, So I mean, so it's just nice
Speaker 1: to see them getting rewarded for hard work that would
Speaker 1: otherwise be going unnoticed. All Right, we appreciate you guys us.
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We'll start talking Cowboys versus Kansas City.
Speaker 1: As I say, we'll have Dea wall On joining us tomorrow,
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about those chiefs to then for
Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, Dave Helmet, and Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagleson.
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