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Speaker 2: And I am, of course big still with my homeboy.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, I'm gonna take a little bit of
Speaker 2: time to address some stuff that's out there in the
Speaker 2: Internet world. And I'm not gonna say no names, but
Speaker 2: this person Internet conspiracy today. Yeah, Internet conspiracy because apparently
Speaker 2: I don't own the company. Did I put my code
Speaker 2: hard cash up to start.
Speaker 1: All the way on that conspiracy?
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying all this stuff. You know,
Speaker 2: there's a guy. I'm not gonna say his name because
Speaker 2: that's what he is. He's an attention seeking jeriatric. I
Speaker 2: haven't been.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't I don't do a lot
Speaker 4: of I gotta be honest, I really don't do a
Speaker 4: lot of YouTube and internet and stuff outside of Karan
Speaker 4: Ship and doing a little bit of music. Trying to
Speaker 4: do that. I can't say I really be you know,
Speaker 4: but it be a gang of shit out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't pay attention either man, because one
Speaker 2: thing I don't want to do. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: get his dude, no promotion pretty much. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: back to the beginning. We used to record up in
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. You've been to the mansion.
Speaker 4: Before, Yeah, that's when I first met y'all. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: came to the mansion, you know.
Speaker 2: So we up in the mansion and if you remember
Speaker 2: that place, this is easily maybe what you think brand
Speaker 2: a ten million dollar home? You know, we in a
Speaker 2: ten million dollar home. And I'm doing business with these people. Right.
Speaker 2: So this guy comes in for a meeting because like
Speaker 2: every other has been gangster, he won a podcast, right,
Speaker 2: he want to get a podcast. So I take the
Speaker 2: time to meet him and stuff like that. I meet
Speaker 2: with him, he starts kind of getting loud, and you know,
Speaker 2: he wanted them type of people to bark when he talked,
Speaker 2: you know, just the extra, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: just real extra with the stuff. So I'm in the
Speaker 2: laughing with laughing at the dude. Right. And keep in
Speaker 2: mind when we had this meeting, James sitting in the
Speaker 2: room and I got I'm not gonna say their name,
Speaker 2: but you know I got four or five homeboys. It's
Speaker 2: out there in the front, Brian, you can attest to that.
Speaker 2: They was always over there. Right. If I would have
Speaker 2: gave a message Dada came in there and stumped the
Speaker 2: mud hole and do. But that's not what I want
Speaker 2: because again I'm a businessman, right, So I'm talking to
Speaker 2: this dude or whatever whatever whatever. I help him out
Speaker 2: with some stuff. Right now. One thing I am gonna say,
Speaker 2: you didn't force me to do a damn thing. Anything
Speaker 2: I do out the kindness of my heart. See that's
Speaker 2: the problem when you help niggas. Niggas take stuff as
Speaker 2: a sign of weakness. I am definitely not weak. You
Speaker 2: don't know me, homeboy, You definitely don't know me to
Speaker 2: be speaking my name talking about you chased me around
Speaker 2: with a mic stand and had a pipe and all this.
Speaker 2: My homeboys, I'd have whooped your ass myself. Straight up.
Speaker 2: You are a sixty year old man, but I'm not
Speaker 2: on that stuff again. I am a businessman. I got
Speaker 2: children that's doing better than you. My nineteen year old
Speaker 2: daughter make more money than you. You're talking about you
Speaker 2: going to a state. You drive from a piece of shit,
Speaker 2: beat up ass truck. Talk about you coming from in
Speaker 2: the state. I'm gonna tell you this, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell everybody else out there. I'm not gonna keep allowing
Speaker 2: y'all just to play with my name. You know what
Speaker 2: I am gonna do. I got attorneys for niggas like y'all,
Speaker 2: So keep playing with my name and see what you
Speaker 2: get hit with that little shit, little raggedy shit you got.
Speaker 2: I would take it and it would be mine. And
Speaker 2: I would go give it away to a hobo, because
Speaker 2: that's what you are. You are all bumm. Keep my
Speaker 2: name out your mouth. Now that my ran is over with,
Speaker 2: we keep going. Okay. You know, you know the guy
Speaker 2: from cash app, the guy started cash app. I think
Speaker 2: his name is Bob Lee, my correct, Um, he got murdered.
Speaker 2: This is kind of old news. But what I found
Speaker 2: interesting was the federal government is now starting their own
Speaker 2: version of that stuff. I know, I read a little
Speaker 2: bit about that.
Speaker 4: I've done too much interesting it in it I try
Speaker 4: to stay away from. I know that's the ship. A
Speaker 4: lot of people use cash app. You know, a lot
Speaker 4: of people use the money wiring services.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Back in my days, all we had was Western Union,
Speaker 4: Oh for real, yeah I remember that. So but uh,
Speaker 4: you know, nowadays got Zaeil, you got cash App, you
Speaker 4: got Venmo, you got all these money site. So just
Speaker 4: a matter of time until the government got in on it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the government right now, man, because I
Speaker 2: used to got hit with a big text bill. Man, Like, honestly,
Speaker 2: I got hit with the text bill. It kind of
Speaker 2: scared me. You know, I'm getting erectified and everything, because
Speaker 2: they will throw your ass and jail behind it.
Speaker 4: Well you know, hopefully it's not no astronomical you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Yeah, because they will. They will come
Speaker 4: at you. You know, they want their bread and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna give it to them too, so they don't have
Speaker 4: to have no problems. They will, they will work with
Speaker 4: you if you're not in the position and where you
Speaker 4: at that you at that million dollar mark and shit.
Speaker 2: Oh no I'm not up there. Yeah, that's when they
Speaker 2: start throwing you in jailing exactly.
Speaker 4: You know, they start owing them millions, they coming after you.
Speaker 4: You owe a couple one hundred thousand, they be willing
Speaker 4: to work with you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know sometimes brothers, you know, especially us, we start
Speaker 4: making good, clean money and you know it just it
Speaker 4: just goes away from us sometime, you know, taxes and
Speaker 4: all the legitimate stuff that you gotta do when you're
Speaker 4: making money at that bracket. So you know, you learn,
Speaker 4: you live and learn, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what see and see the thing is
Speaker 2: where we get in trouble with too. And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go back this because I know you're not a conspiracy
Speaker 2: theories eight. I just thought the timing of it was
Speaker 2: mighty funny. Did this man come up? Did and the
Speaker 2: government is starting they stuff? But I don't know if
Speaker 2: they don't. I'm not seeing the government went out there
Speaker 2: and killed them. I just thought it was really I
Speaker 2: saw the irony in it.
Speaker 4: You want to say things happen for reasons, but shit
Speaker 4: be mysterious and the next thing you know, something happens
Speaker 4: on top of already the conspiracy of what you think
Speaker 4: is you know, what I'm saying is being contributed to
Speaker 4: the shit. So I try not to I try not
Speaker 4: to get into that shit because it could take you.
Speaker 1: A gang of motherfucking places. Man.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: Being a conspiracy theorist man could have you just I mean,
Speaker 4: the way the clock turned, the way a motherfucking light
Speaker 4: switch is turned on and off, it's a conspiracy. So
Speaker 4: I try not to get too much in that. But not,
Speaker 4: you know, I put nothing against it, because sometimes you
Speaker 4: never know, some of the shit might be true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of weird stuff, but you know,
Speaker 2: on that touch stuff, man, what happens is, especially as
Speaker 2: a business owner and you have so much going on,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of cash to change his hands, right, definitely,
Speaker 2: And if you don't collect ten nullion nine some people
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, you will wind up actually owing
Speaker 2: a lot more money than what you really do because
Speaker 2: these people ain't took care of their business. You know,
Speaker 2: you give somebody a ten ninety nine for them. So
Speaker 2: I had to get to the point man, to where
Speaker 2: if unless you got a ten ninety nine, you would
Speaker 2: not get paid exactly, you would not get paid. But
Speaker 2: the thing is with all this stuff, man, with money
Speaker 2: and stuff, it comes responsibility. That's like I was explaining
Speaker 2: to my son. I was saying, you know, you go
Speaker 2: out and you make a half a million dollars or
Speaker 2: whatever like that, you're really only making two seventy five
Speaker 2: three hundred. Yeah, you're really only making two seventy five
Speaker 2: or three hundred. So I think the best thing to do, man,
Speaker 2: is just when you get a lump something in, it's
Speaker 2: just going to pay it off top automatically. Count. If
Speaker 2: you get a check for one hundred thousand, just no, man,
Speaker 2: I got seventy five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's best to take about thirty and just put
Speaker 4: it up, you know, And already say this is what
Speaker 4: I'm gonna look forward to paying taxes off of because
Speaker 4: you know, shit, it could go for years and years
Speaker 4: and years, but eventually, you know, it catches up, just
Speaker 4: like everything.
Speaker 2: You feel me, oh for sure when I tell you,
Speaker 2: we catch yourself and believe me. I know. I remember
Speaker 2: when I was going over to England a lot. I
Speaker 2: used to go to the UK man, probably like two
Speaker 2: or three times a month, right, And you know, when you young,
Speaker 2: you think you just getting money, but them ten ninety
Speaker 2: nine start hitting your ass. They start hitting you with
Speaker 2: that paperwork. Man, like, yeah, we told that we gave
Speaker 2: you this money. Because they have to pay taxes on
Speaker 2: that money. I'm pretty sure wherever they at. Man. So
Speaker 2: it's a real slippery slope. Man, you gotta be careful.
Speaker 2: That's why you get a lot of entertainers and athletes
Speaker 2: that wind up having immense tax problems later on because
Speaker 2: nobody ever told them. And then sometimes when you have
Speaker 2: these financial people, man, these financial people, you know, people
Speaker 2: handling your business for you. Man, the motherfucker's in there,
Speaker 2: you're stealing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never.
Speaker 4: You know, I I've you know, I might not have
Speaker 4: been in a bracket somehere. These you know, these artists
Speaker 4: out here. You know, I claim to be an average motherfucker,
Speaker 4: you know, hard working, nine to five ass nigga, rapping
Speaker 4: nigga is me. But you you have to be able
Speaker 4: to figure out when you get to that status, man,
Speaker 4: because you know they.
Speaker 1: They will come for you.
Speaker 4: And then it's it's it's it's all about trust, man,
Speaker 4: who you can trust, because I always tell the motherfucker
Speaker 4: you're gonna get fucked regardless of what it is.
Speaker 1: I don't care, motherfucker.
Speaker 4: He'll play the honist, he'll play the honest a bass
Speaker 4: motherfucker for as long as he can. But eventually, sooner
Speaker 4: or later, the nigga's gonna take you know, you get
Speaker 4: a quarter, he gonna take five cents of it. A motherfucker,
Speaker 4: you get fifty cent, he won't motherfucking fifteen cents off
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 2: For real.
Speaker 4: And they're gonna figure out how to do it, even
Speaker 4: though on top of that, you're paying the motherfucker what
Speaker 4: he should be getting. Yeah, but check this out by
Speaker 4: by you know, by standard. But it's just it's just
Speaker 4: some motherfuckers who feel like I just I just deserve
Speaker 4: a little more, even though it's your bread and you
Speaker 4: out there working for it, and you out there performing
Speaker 4: or entertaining, or sports or doing whatever you're doing. You know,
Speaker 4: when you get into that league where you gotta have
Speaker 4: other motherfuckers handling your money, you best believe somebody trying
Speaker 4: to dip into cookies yard off.
Speaker 2: For sure, you Sawterrell Owens, remember he had that TV
Speaker 2: show man and that man was on their crime because
Speaker 2: somebody tried to tell me that was stage that said no,
Speaker 2: if you saw that dude, man, that dude was really gone.
Speaker 2: He had all the money he thought he had saved
Speaker 2: that was gone. He didn't have nothing. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: You know, when you get with these people that talk
Speaker 2: about they can invest your money and double your money,
Speaker 2: they still get paid their commission whether the investment is
Speaker 2: successful or not. So if you invest in the restaurant.
Speaker 2: Let's say you invest two fifty into a restaurant, right
Speaker 2: and that restaurant ain't successful, that dude still get his
Speaker 2: commission regardless of whether you lose or not, regardless whether
Speaker 2: you lose a win, and he gonna get a bigger commission.
Speaker 2: I for the is successful, but he's taking his off
Speaker 2: the top though he's taking hiss off top. Why do you.
Speaker 4: Think motherfuckers feel like they have the position or feel
Speaker 4: just like I want to fuck a nigga period. Why
Speaker 4: you think niggas do that?
Speaker 2: You know what I notice eight, especially what I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say black people, because it's a difference between niggas
Speaker 2: and black people. A nigga feels like a motherfucker owe
Speaker 2: him something. They feel like they oh, h'm something. Fuck
Speaker 2: what's fair or what's right? Right? They feel like somebody
Speaker 2: owes them something, even if they not putting up a dime.
Speaker 2: A nigga would show up every week, they do the
Speaker 2: minimum and go home, but yet expect to get the
Speaker 2: same thing that you get, if not more, and to
Speaker 2: get mad at your ass if they can't do it.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about like you got two different people, right,
Speaker 2: you got the white corporate types right. And most of
Speaker 2: that happens because they think they're more intelligent than us.
Speaker 2: But once they find out, if they find out that
Speaker 2: they can't pull one over from you. If you're a
Speaker 2: person that's really tending to detail and you pay a
Speaker 2: lot of attention to detail, they're not gonna fuck with
Speaker 2: you like that. But if you a dude, it's kind
Speaker 2: of just like really just letting them do their job,
Speaker 2: which you should be able to if you're paying a
Speaker 2: man for a service to watch over your money, you
Speaker 2: should be able to sleep at night knowing your cash
Speaker 2: is they're not being spent on putting his daughter through
Speaker 2: college or buying his mistress some new tities.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: And it's not all I don't it's not even all
Speaker 4: related to the fact that a motherfucker handling your money,
Speaker 4: because it's a motherfucker you could even deal with as
Speaker 4: far as going into business.
Speaker 2: With or whatever.
Speaker 4: Who just feel like, you know, I deserve to get
Speaker 4: more money, you know what I'm saying, situations of motherfuckers
Speaker 4: who you know, like one of my situations to where
Speaker 4: you know, you go out get a record deal. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm sitting up writing all these songs in the studio
Speaker 4: all night. You know, I'm sitting up me and me
Speaker 4: and my man, we sitting up all night trying to
Speaker 4: come up with songs. And you know, I'm writing lyrics
Speaker 4: left and right and then because we don't have that
Speaker 4: motherfucking position to where we can sit down at the
Speaker 4: table with the main motherfucker like just like a money man.
Speaker 1: But now you got a middleman.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, and the motherfucker feel like, Okay,
Speaker 4: well I introduced the motherfucker to the label or to
Speaker 4: the person who signed them, and they's feel like they
Speaker 4: should get even after you break them off. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Because it's always you know what niggas
Speaker 4: used to call a finder's feet back.
Speaker 2: You know what. And I'm not mad at somebody. If
Speaker 2: somebody connects me with something, man and they I go
Speaker 2: out and make some money, I'm gonna throw you back
Speaker 2: some breathe. That's just right. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You give me a play eight and not gonna make
Speaker 2: fifty thousand on it, I'm gonna come and shoot your team.
Speaker 4: But a lot of the plays be shit, motherfucker be
Speaker 4: like they want to take, they want to make, They
Speaker 4: want to get more money than you make any Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: motherfucker who's doing all over?
Speaker 2: We do that situation firsthand because you're about to do
Speaker 2: some stuff with my man from BT you for this movie, right,
Speaker 2: and when he calls me, you know, my guy shout
Speaker 2: out to my homeboy kto he plugs it up because
Speaker 2: he said, hey man, this dude's been trying to get
Speaker 2: at eight, but eight is telling them his date rate
Speaker 2: is fifteen thousand a day. I'm like, damn, that's not
Speaker 2: even after a SAG. You're getting some.
Speaker 1: You know, they get made money, right, it said fifteen
Speaker 1: to day.
Speaker 2: They can put it on the table. So and you know,
Speaker 2: when I talk to you about it, you don't know
Speaker 2: nothing about it. You're not even aware of it. But
Speaker 2: that's aware of shit. But that's where we're at now.
Speaker 2: If they can't hook it up and rate the sister
Speaker 2: situation before you even go get started. Because if he
Speaker 2: collecting fifteen, what did he think that you was gonna
Speaker 2: go somewhere and get five hundred a day, which is
Speaker 2: really the normal day rate for it for a series,
Speaker 2: depending on what the budget is. I think the minimum
Speaker 2: is SAG is like probably eight hundred and fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: day or something like that. Right, I don't have to
Speaker 2: I don't have a little scale in front of me.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2: But because I haven't done nothing in a long time,
Speaker 2: I think I stopped doing the acting stuff when they
Speaker 2: went on strike that one time, and I got tired
Speaker 2: of going on all the auditions.
Speaker 4: Even though I was never I ain't never even considered
Speaker 4: myself a fucking actor, so I never I did minis.
Speaker 4: I did fucking thicker than water. I did a hundred kilos,
Speaker 4: you know, and.
Speaker 2: That was it. I never went after shit. So I
Speaker 2: did a really job doing minutes. You was acting your
Speaker 2: ass off of that month.
Speaker 4: I really wasn't acting. I was just acting the fool
Speaker 4: was doing me. That's it.
Speaker 2: And you was a young nigga too, so that was
Speaker 2: comptant gang banging. I was. Yeah, that was.
Speaker 4: That was being still tied to the neighborhood, still going
Speaker 4: to the you know, that was that was.
Speaker 2: That wasn't no acting, Yeah, because you looked like an official.
Speaker 2: You look like an official gangship and that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: But like like we were saying, man ship, it's just
Speaker 4: people who feel like they deserve more than you get
Speaker 4: off of your work.
Speaker 1: And that shit surprises me sometime.
Speaker 4: And just like you said, it could be a motherfucker
Speaker 4: who hitting hitting like yeah, man, you know eight man,
Speaker 4: you know we want to But and that still puzzles
Speaker 4: puzzles me because with social media and with all the
Speaker 4: ways of getting in contact with a motherfucker, it seems
Speaker 4: like a nigga would just take his time and just
Speaker 4: try to get in contact with you direct. But you
Speaker 4: have those situations where motherfuckers try to go through people
Speaker 4: and be like, you know, ah, you know eight cause
Speaker 4: you know niggas put you know TN on twenty and
Speaker 4: whatever that shit be and whatever. So niggah, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: my nigga, man, eight right now or whatever. So people
Speaker 4: put they trust in motherfuckers and then let the negotiations begin,
Speaker 4: and like, I've never had a manager or never shit
Speaker 4: like that, or an assistant or nothing like that. I
Speaker 4: need one, but motherfuckers, you know, they'll go start negotiating
Speaker 4: for you. You eight won't this and eight won't that.
Speaker 4: And then in actuality, the mother fucker really be trying
Speaker 4: to fuck me.
Speaker 2: So you mean to tell me the little help I'll
Speaker 2: be giving you that first?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first time you don't have a motherfucker I've
Speaker 4: never had a.
Speaker 1: Manager and shit like that never.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, man, it's about, It's about finding
Speaker 2: the good. I just always felt like you ain't doing
Speaker 2: no work.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was a tight ass nigga. That's why they used
Speaker 4: to call me tight in the neighborhood because I didn't
Speaker 4: like to give up money for ship.
Speaker 1: Money was hard and.
Speaker 4: Tight, but you know what it is though I felt
Speaker 4: like this, A nigga want me to come do a show, right, nigga,
Speaker 4: how long you want me to get down?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: I need three four flights, I need this, how many rooms?
Speaker 4: And this is how much I take. I don't need
Speaker 4: a nigga to negotiate that. I just told you what.
Speaker 2: But you know what a manager is supposed to do,
Speaker 2: and theory man is bringing you more opportunities. You're not
Speaker 2: supposed to sit up and see what a lot of
Speaker 2: nigga's idea of management is now, especially these good they
Speaker 2: think they supposed to just sit up and just take
Speaker 2: phone calls. For motherfucker that hits you up on Instagram
Speaker 2: on his own right right, he hits you up directly.
Speaker 2: But a manager is supposed to be doing is going
Speaker 2: to go seek other opportunities for you that you don't have,
Speaker 2: like tours, mother tours.
Speaker 4: A long term stuff some of these niggas niggas use
Speaker 4: right now, it's like a motherfucking digital security guard because nigga,
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk to this nigga. I don't
Speaker 4: want to nigga want to call me thirty times a
Speaker 4: day and shit like that. So a lot of times
Speaker 4: you get you get motherfuckers like that. But like you said,
Speaker 4: a real manager goes ou't get you opportunities, present you
Speaker 4: with opportunities, you know, and they out there working for
Speaker 4: the brand, you know what I'm saying exactly, And some
Speaker 4: dudes are very skilled that day. And then you got
Speaker 4: niggas who just like I call them, they just want
Speaker 4: to sit up and play middleman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the hood, and that's the average hood niggas.
Speaker 4: A lot of the times the niggas would be still
Speaker 4: calling me direct you get me. And so after I
Speaker 4: done negotiated the price, the feature or whatever, whatever, I go, Okay,
Speaker 4: now go call this nigga.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 4: It's all because, like you said, a real motherfucker is
Speaker 4: out there getting you opportunities, not waiting for opportunities to
Speaker 4: come to you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I could just sit
Speaker 1: back and cherry pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, you know you're supposed to go out
Speaker 2: as a manager and actively pursue new opportunities and endeavors,
Speaker 2: right like movies for example, right, you know, movies other
Speaker 2: stuff that's really outside of your normal scope of business.
Speaker 2: It's easy to go get shows. I could book I
Speaker 2: can have you MC eight, I can have you booked
Speaker 2: every weekend to hear to the end of thing. That's cool.
Speaker 2: But we trying to elevate to another level because you know,
Speaker 2: as we get older, because father time is undefeated. Now,
Speaker 2: as we get older, you not gonna want to go
Speaker 2: on the road. No, every weekend. You got other stuff
Speaker 2: to do. You got a son is about to start
Speaker 2: playing college ball, you got all kinds of stuff. You
Speaker 2: got family times. So sometimes it's a big on them
Speaker 2: planes and stuff.
Speaker 4: And it's like you said, it's like my ninety five
Speaker 4: around here. For the last couple of months. I've been
Speaker 4: on the road every weekend for about the last two months.
Speaker 2: So now just imagine you do a movie, right, you
Speaker 2: do a couple of flicks. You get compensated really well
Speaker 2: for that, and instead of going to go do it
Speaker 2: show every weekend, you going to nice ten fifteen city
Speaker 2: tour to where you can stack your money. Now you
Speaker 2: can have more time to relax and underwine and it's
Speaker 2: more lucrative. It's all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always best to try to make time for
Speaker 4: family shit. You know, you neglect that shit sometimes.
Speaker 2: Oh you tell me, man, it's all show.
Speaker 4: Men or husband or whatever the case may be. It's
Speaker 4: very valuable, you know what I'm saying, Because in my
Speaker 4: younger days in my career, you know, I was on
Speaker 4: the road, like I don't know when I was at home.
Speaker 4: You know, between the time I dropped straight checking them
Speaker 4: and death threats, I probably was at home maybe three
Speaker 4: months out of the year for about the last twenty years.
Speaker 1: So I was we was gone all the time. So
Speaker 1: it makes it hard.
Speaker 4: So when you get the opportunity, you try to reevaluate
Speaker 4: that type of shit. And you know that's what I
Speaker 4: did when Karan came around. You know, you just have
Speaker 4: to reevaluate what's more important now, you know, chasing check
Speaker 4: everybody gonna feel chasing a check is is important and
Speaker 4: that's anything that man, you know, And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: I'm like you, you know what I'm saying. You gotta
Speaker 4: get the bills paid, you feel me, And getting the
Speaker 4: bills paid come with sacrifices of going out there, but
Speaker 4: you just gotta make time. Sometimes a lot of niggas nowadays,
Speaker 4: you see, you know, they make enough to where they
Speaker 4: can take their kids on the road with them and
Speaker 4: shit like that. You know, but you know, we come
Speaker 4: from a different time in era. So just just just
Speaker 4: being able to evaluate what's more important as far as
Speaker 4: family time. You know what I'm saying, because it changes
Speaker 4: the outlook great on the family situation if you ask me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely have to have a balance, man, because
Speaker 2: like when I was going over the England and Japan
Speaker 2: and Dubai and all that stuff, Man, I really started noticing,
Speaker 2: man that it was impacting my home life because when
Speaker 2: I got home, you get bombarded with all the stuff
Speaker 2: that's been happening while you've been gone, right because you
Speaker 2: on the road. And it's really not no fair to
Speaker 2: your wife if you got a woman at home. Wife
Speaker 2: at home, she's taking care of all the business. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you bringing some good dough through the crib, but you
Speaker 2: not there to deal with everything. She's dealing with everything, right,
Speaker 2: so when she come back, she's going and unload on you.
Speaker 2: And who else she gonna talk to about it? You
Speaker 2: may not feel like hearing it shit at the time,
Speaker 2: but who else she's supposed to talk to? Thank god
Speaker 2: she come to talk to you about it or not?
Speaker 2: No side, nigga, man, you feel what I'm saying, So
Speaker 2: it's like that. Man. You know, the thing is man
Speaker 2: with our people and not to just this attention is
Speaker 2: just kind of parallel to what we're talking about. This
Speaker 2: situation is kind of parallel to what we're talking about. Right, us,
Speaker 2: as black people, we have to learn that nobody owes
Speaker 2: you something. Every opportunity I've ever had, I went out
Speaker 2: and busted my ass for it. Dog, it was hard work.
Speaker 2: I did a lot of sacrifice and right, I made
Speaker 2: a lot of sacrifices. People have no idea what I
Speaker 2: sacrificed to just get stuff kicked off. They have no
Speaker 2: idea what my bills are every month. Man, my bills
Speaker 2: are twenty five thousand dollars every month. If I don't
Speaker 2: have that company, and Dog, it's gonna be stuff like
Speaker 2: when if you ever came in the lights was off
Speaker 2: in the studio, Well no, you ain't. Never came to
Speaker 2: studio lights lf. We always had a place to record.
Speaker 2: We always had a camera people, We always had a
Speaker 2: camera person. We had stuff that that needed to happen,
Speaker 2: and it was my responsibility to make it happen. That
Speaker 2: stuff come with a cost. Hell yeah, it comes with
Speaker 2: a cost. And people don't understand that so you get
Speaker 2: a dude that's on the outside looking in, and it's opportunities.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of opportunitists out there. It's always a
Speaker 2: nigga looking to slide up under you and get in.
Speaker 2: And they assume that they know your business model when
Speaker 2: they come in, because I get set up there and
Speaker 2: listen to a cat tell me what my business model
Speaker 2: was and how got niggas under fucked up contracts. First
Speaker 2: of all, everybody that signed the digital soapbox on their
Speaker 2: own show, I don't own nobody show. The only show
Speaker 2: I have ownership in is the Gangster Chronicles podcast. The
Speaker 2: Gangster Chronicles podcast. I make fifteen to twenty percent off
Speaker 2: of every show. If we sell advertising based on that
Speaker 2: I don't own, they show they can really go and walk.
Speaker 2: I've never enforced the contract on somebody, but it's always
Speaker 2: the person that wants to try to get in, and
Speaker 2: he's in everybody else's ear. He's a cancer. Those people
Speaker 2: become cancers right because they gonna go tell anybody that
Speaker 2: would listen to him, well, man, you know he doing this.
Speaker 2: You know he picked up a million dollars for this.
Speaker 2: You know he picked up five hundred thousand for that,
Speaker 2: But then what.
Speaker 4: What is what is what is the end game for that? Like,
Speaker 4: you know, so what does what does this? What does
Speaker 4: this individual want to see happen? They want to see
Speaker 4: you fall, they want to see you destroyed, they want
Speaker 4: to see you does it? Is it gonna make them
Speaker 4: more satisfied that you can't feed the family, or that
Speaker 4: you're broke, or that nobody fucks with you? Is that
Speaker 4: that's I just don't be understanding what game like, like,
Speaker 4: what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: What do you want to happen?
Speaker 2: You know what? Man?
Speaker 1: What the fuck do you want to happen?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What do you want me?
Speaker 2: Do you want you? You want you?
Speaker 4: You're not gonna be satisfied until what until what I'm
Speaker 4: laying in the gutter, dead and broke or something with
Speaker 4: that satisfy you?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Is Man, I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure it out to you. You know what.
Speaker 2: I believe, Hey, I believe that people take situations like
Speaker 2: we just had a major situation with one of our
Speaker 2: co hosts. You knew I didn't want to let do go.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to let him go, But it's business, man.
Speaker 2: Business always supersedes any relationship, right, it has to because
Speaker 2: guess what if I don't handle business, we won't be
Speaker 2: able to pay our bills.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to let I didn't want to be
Speaker 4: let go from Sony, but they canceled my contract. I
Speaker 4: didn't want my deal from Big Beat to go. When
Speaker 4: I had a production deal nine albums. This was like though,
Speaker 4: they was like shit, no, no fucking you know, it.
Speaker 1: Was hey, thank you and good luck.
Speaker 2: You know what. But the thing is with this.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that that's the attitude that the
Speaker 4: individual's supposed to have. I'm not saying that a motherfucker's
Speaker 4: supposed to be comfortable or not comfortable with it. But
Speaker 4: then and I'm just saying, what happens after this shit
Speaker 4: you get me? Do we concentrate on just trying to
Speaker 4: destroy your motherfucker? Or do we get on up and
Speaker 4: go get it cracking?
Speaker 2: And they that's where most people feel at because I've
Speaker 2: been go from situations.
Speaker 4: Don't get it cracking by just coming at me all
Speaker 4: the fucking time.
Speaker 1: You get me?
Speaker 4: Oh, but that's the model it like it should be like,
Speaker 4: you know, when I didn't when I lost the record deal,
Speaker 4: I had to go find me another record deal, or
Speaker 4: I started putting out my shit independently.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: I had a little animosity toward the labels, But at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I can't sit here and
Speaker 4: keep being fucking pissed off because a nigga dropped me.
Speaker 4: I gotta go make me another record somewhere. You have
Speaker 4: to go because you know, the funniest thing to me,
Speaker 4: he last time I had my we had a meeting.
Speaker 4: You know, we had meetings every other week with black effect.
Speaker 4: You just start getting them calls and I and I
Speaker 4: want to clarify this too. A motherfucker could do the
Speaker 4: same shit to me. I could do some shit and
Speaker 4: a motherfucker can feel like I'm bad karma for the business.
Speaker 1: Eight thanks for being around.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I made some money. I got myself to another level.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna spin off now I'm gonna keep it gangster business.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep it gangster and I'm gonna load up
Speaker 4: the trunks with a k's and I'm finna go at
Speaker 4: this nigga.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what's I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know like I'm saying, and I'm not speaking
Speaker 4: for no side because I ain't got shit to do
Speaker 4: with it. But at the end of the fucking day,
Speaker 4: what do we want to happen at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, Because if we can't talk like fifty year
Speaker 4: old men and we gotta we gotta go to the
Speaker 4: fact that we gotta get back on the block with
Speaker 4: it over business, then I don't know, Like.
Speaker 2: You know, one thing I do want to clarify real quickly,
Speaker 2: because you know how the internet is, this conversation is
Speaker 2: not about James McDonald. I actually have a lot of
Speaker 2: respect for James. I have a ton of respect for him.
Speaker 2: I don't like the way stuff ended, but it's what
Speaker 2: it is. Sometimes stuff can't end, you know, happily, you
Speaker 2: feel what I mean. Sometimes just certain situations just can't
Speaker 2: be avoided, you know. So, and I held out for
Speaker 2: the longest. We had conversations. You know, we had conversations
Speaker 2: about it. I held out as long as I could.
Speaker 2: But this conversation is about him, So don't go back
Speaker 2: talking about what they was talking about. You know, this
Speaker 2: is about this other guy. And the thing is, man me,
Speaker 2: as you just made a valid point, me as a
Speaker 2: fifty something year old man, I'm not about to be
Speaker 2: out there tussling with people. Dog, I'm not about to
Speaker 2: be out there doing this and doing that because I'm
Speaker 2: a business man. You know what I do have? Eight,
Speaker 2: I have an attorney, a high powered attorney that don't
Speaker 2: mind taking.
Speaker 1: Well who expects but who expects you to be tussling
Speaker 1: with a nigga?
Speaker 4: You know what that is? That is that? What is
Speaker 4: that is that what's expected? Is what expects it is
Speaker 4: for for us to get in on the street and
Speaker 4: duke it out like what's expected.
Speaker 2: And you know, eight, I'm gonna tell you the irony
Speaker 2: of it all, bro over something that has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with you. This dude don't have nothing to do
Speaker 2: with nothing. He's a guy. Every relationship he's ever had,
Speaker 2: he's fucked up. Because you know, I do my research.
Speaker 2: I don't do a lot of talking because the thing is,
Speaker 2: you're talking about people that don't know me from a
Speaker 2: can of paint. Technically, we've had a few conversations, and
Speaker 2: I actually helped him with a lot of stuff, helped him,
Speaker 2: gave him some assistance, right, even help them come up
Speaker 2: with some stuff, because you know, and then you sit
Speaker 2: up and listen to him talk about how intellectual he
Speaker 2: is but his action since say the total opposite. And
Speaker 2: I was serious when I see I got kids, that's
Speaker 2: doing better than this dude. This dude ain't ain't fifty
Speaker 2: more closer to sixty. I never imagined in a million years, man.
Speaker 2: I went through the music industry. Man, I was in
Speaker 2: the music industry for fifteen years eight never had a
Speaker 2: problem with nobody. I'll start podcasting now. It seemed like
Speaker 2: I got a problem with niggas. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I mean, we go through that right now in this era.
Speaker 1: I mean not to say that.
Speaker 4: You know, niggas ain't always had beefs with niggas because
Speaker 4: of nothing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure there's a lot of niggas I didn't
Speaker 4: have beefs with. I didn't even know I had beef with.
Speaker 4: You get me. There's been plenty of niggas who just
Speaker 4: look at a nigga and y'all, I don't like that nigga, Like,
Speaker 4: why you don't like him?
Speaker 2: What do you do? You do? Shit?
Speaker 4: I just don't like that nigga. That's the attitude we
Speaker 4: have a month star seales, especially on the West Coast.
Speaker 4: I figured out I don't give a fuck, man, that's
Speaker 4: the attitude we got on the West Coast with niggas, man,
Speaker 4: and and it ain't like about you know, because a
Speaker 4: lot of niggas you know, speak on you know, you
Speaker 4: don't want to see me eat or you don't like
Speaker 4: my come up, and that it's just and that's not
Speaker 4: nothing about it, you get me. It's just that niggas
Speaker 4: start getting genuine hate for motherfuckers when they think your
Speaker 4: position is better than mom.
Speaker 2: Well you know what it is, Isa, Hey, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you this, and this is what I tell people. If
Speaker 2: your whole basis for your comeback is gonna be for
Speaker 2: you to go make a bunch of episodes about me
Speaker 2: or make videos about me or whatever like that, right,
Speaker 2: that's time that you could be spending on doing something
Speaker 2: productive for you. It's gonna put you on a level.
Speaker 2: Because I've heard this all the time every time somebody
Speaker 2: leave over the show is over with this that this
Speaker 2: is gonna happen. But yeah, it keeps climbing, it keeps growing.
Speaker 4: Right as a people like to see us fall and
Speaker 4: that we I mean, you know, like I got a
Speaker 4: homemade who he loves the little show with what's my
Speaker 4: nigga blue face? Yeah, he loves it. He cannot get
Speaker 4: it nothing. Now, I'm talking about a fifty year old
Speaker 4: hood nigga.
Speaker 2: He loves it. You know why, because it's ship every
Speaker 2: fucking day. It's a it's a fuck, and he loves it.
Speaker 2: We love that ship, you know what they I told
Speaker 2: somebody the other day. I don't know. I might have
Speaker 2: been talking to shout out the spitfire sitting out sitting
Speaker 2: here kicking it with his dog today. But I was
Speaker 2: telling somebody the other day, I'm going to make a
Speaker 2: whole channel just to voter to accidents, train wrecks, falling
Speaker 2: down the stairs. Because us as people just like get like,
Speaker 2: we just love some fun. Why they say we get
Speaker 2: a dope, we get a double men rush Because I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell you what happened. I'll be on the freeway
Speaker 2: headed to the cree man, and you traffic be backed
Speaker 2: up on both sides of the thing. And then you
Speaker 2: would get to the end, you realize they ain't even
Speaker 2: nothing on this side of the road. It's some shit
Speaker 2: that don't have another side of the road. Look, people
Speaker 2: stopping to look. Fucking people stopping to look. I never
Speaker 2: understood that people love train ricks.
Speaker 4: That shit embarrasses me, I turn this shit off. That's
Speaker 4: I look at shit like that, and I be ready
Speaker 4: to change the channel because I don't like to see
Speaker 4: niggas embarrassing themselves.
Speaker 1: It just do something to me.
Speaker 4: But we as a people, us as the niggas, love
Speaker 4: seeing niggas.
Speaker 1: And some bullshit, man, you get me.
Speaker 4: Or I love to see some bitches jumping on a bitch,
Speaker 4: or I love to see some niggas you'd all said
Speaker 4: taking a niggas shit or whatever, like.
Speaker 2: We love that shit.
Speaker 4: Hey, I've actually like and not to cut you off,
Speaker 4: but to go back to the situation like you were saying,
Speaker 4: where niggas will tune in and watch, you know, videos
Speaker 4: being made of bad mouthing and controversy and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do this and I'm gonna do this. They will watch
Speaker 4: and watch and applaud that ship as to apparently of
Speaker 4: why we can't figure out why why why there's a
Speaker 4: situation and a problem, but we can get more likes
Speaker 4: and followers and fans and whatever off the controversy and
Speaker 4: the negativity you give me. You, I don't want to
Speaker 4: see no positive shit. I don't want to see them
Speaker 4: niggas be cool or I don't want to see this
Speaker 4: or that. I want to see niggas dumping on each
Speaker 4: other or trying to go at it. I want to
Speaker 4: see them two niggas trying to bite each other heads off,
Speaker 4: when at the end of the day, both parties got
Speaker 4: a gang of shit to lose.
Speaker 2: You know, feel me, You just said some god of family.
Speaker 4: My nigga got a family everybody, but but niggas is
Speaker 4: acting like we like niggas is twenty year old niggas
Speaker 4: on the block with no kids and no grandkids, and no,
Speaker 4: I got nothing to lose, Yeah you do.
Speaker 2: You got a whole bunch of stuff. You got it.
Speaker 1: You got to lose the gangst the chronicles.
Speaker 4: My nigga got to lose family and situations, my other nigga,
Speaker 4: whoever it is, you got shit to lose, don't think
Speaker 4: that it's it's it's the time and era where you'll
Speaker 4: be able to pull up and jump out on a
Speaker 4: nigga or whatever whatever and and and it ain't go
Speaker 4: to Let me tell you something, I said, it best
Speaker 4: the hood to take you under for some shit like this. Nowadays,
Speaker 4: too many cameras, too many look or lose, too many snitches.
Speaker 4: Nothing gets away with nothing nowadays. I'm telling you, so,
Speaker 4: why excel the bullshit, my nigga, you got too much
Speaker 4: to fucking lose, Because I tell a nigga every day
Speaker 4: I'm trying to be cool with every motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I got too much to lose.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, though, I'm gonna tell you like this, man,
Speaker 2: we ad you know we it went out to Vegas
Speaker 2: to shoot this motorcycle thing, right, and it was a
Speaker 2: good idea. You know this TV show actually, you know
Speaker 2: what movie stuff. When you produce stuff you don't know
Speaker 2: where's go crack, you might get a call two years
Speaker 2: later on it. Right, So it's a major company to
Speaker 2: just hit us up. And they was asking me about
Speaker 2: the footage and this and that. Right. So the thing
Speaker 2: is they asked me about my man, our former co host.
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, definitely keep him involved. Why would I
Speaker 2: want to impede on him getting to check the BEI
Speaker 2: able to take care of his family. I don't operate
Speaker 2: like that. Again, I'm a businessman. I wanted to say something. Man,
Speaker 2: to see people do stuff. We think it's cool to
Speaker 2: just go out and talk. Man. See Cardi B kind
Speaker 2: of she kind of did something real pivotal man. She
Speaker 2: won four million dollars in a libel lawsuit against his
Speaker 2: YouTube chick right the Latasha KII brought because you know
Speaker 2: the broad women they're talking about, she had herpies and
Speaker 2: was on drugs and all this, and that she sued
Speaker 2: the shit out of her. You just can't go out
Speaker 2: and just drag a motherfucker's name through the mud with
Speaker 2: a bunch of bullshit, because you know what they that's
Speaker 2: really you impeding my business. You walked there putting stuff
Speaker 2: out that's not true. You're talking about. Oh but the
Speaker 2: company's structures, this and that. This man don't know nothing
Speaker 2: about me, don't have a clue. He don't even got
Speaker 2: his own life together. So how're you gonna try to
Speaker 2: run mind?
Speaker 4: And it's just like I said, I get it from
Speaker 4: the point of, you know, being emotional and feeling like
Speaker 4: I had ties or whatever. But like I said, I
Speaker 4: signed the motherfucker sony for seven years.
Speaker 1: I knew everybody in the building.
Speaker 4: I felt I had ties and love and everything too,
Speaker 4: and a nigga with whatever ever and no hard feelings.
Speaker 1: But we gotta let you go.
Speaker 2: Me curty hit this bitch over the head three million
Speaker 2: and punitive damage and attorney's fees.
Speaker 1: I don't even need to sue you. Why.
Speaker 4: I don't want to continue to carry on more shit.
Speaker 4: Whyon't you just leave me the fucking let you know
Speaker 4: what though, Man, that's that's my attitude about shit. That's
Speaker 4: I don't even need it to go to the level of, Oh,
Speaker 4: you defaming me, you fucking with me. I'm finna get
Speaker 4: my lawyers and call a lawsuit. Nigga, I'm a nigga
Speaker 4: from the block. Let's just squash the beef period.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny, It ain't shit that need to
Speaker 2: be squashed because I'm gonna tell you what this. I
Speaker 2: don't operate from a premise of emotion. That's why you
Speaker 2: gonna see me get mad now. I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 2: this other nigga had me hot kind of because you know,
Speaker 2: you just on this shit. You had me upset. The situation,
Speaker 2: the situation where was brought to me between you get
Speaker 2: me there? What y'all tell me?
Speaker 4: When I was getting ready to start going off, I said, man,
Speaker 4: don't pay that, and they said, debt that shit. I
Speaker 4: made one comment about it, and this is mine. I
Speaker 4: don't care if the other party wants to continue, my
Speaker 4: piece has been said. So from there, And I get
Speaker 4: where you coming from because it was the same situation
Speaker 4: with me. It seemed like every day it was a
Speaker 4: different motherfucker speaking on this shit. And now this nigga's
Speaker 4: talking about it, and now this nigg and then it go.
Speaker 2: To this niggas page and this niggas. You know what happened.
Speaker 2: This niggas, you know what happens. And I actually had
Speaker 2: to talk to a few people about this. Your phone
Speaker 2: ring in the morning, Hey man, you see such and
Speaker 2: such on made a video? Why are you calling me
Speaker 2: to report this shit? I don't I don't care what
Speaker 2: he meane, I don't want to know nothing about it
Speaker 2: because see, hey, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Tell you I say levity, tell you I say shit
Speaker 4: like that about females and shit. You know, who are
Speaker 4: your true friends? You get me because I don't think
Speaker 4: your true friends want you to be involved in controversy
Speaker 4: and bullshit. So why is your true friend calling you? Going,
Speaker 4: Hey man, you saw this shit or you saw this shit? Man,
Speaker 4: don't bring that shit to my every she likes a reaction.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you what people will do this, man.
Speaker 4: People are being intellectually lazy. People don't want to go
Speaker 4: do the research that it requires to really do content
Speaker 4: their idea of creating content, or we just go go
Speaker 4: in here and this motherfuckers and talk about people call this,
Speaker 4: dude this, call this, do that. But I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 4: for every action that you have, man, it's a reaction,
Speaker 4: and they're all consequences and the need to beat consequences.
Speaker 2: For certain stuff. Now when I talk about consequences, man,
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about going out there throwing hands with
Speaker 2: somebody as a grown ass fucking man. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: legal consequences. You know what, Because let me tell you
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. A motherfucker on the corner gonna be
Speaker 2: filming y'all, and they gonna put you up on Instagram
Speaker 2: and go look at these two old motherfuckers out here fighting,
Speaker 2: and they gonna be clowning and laughing and doing all
Speaker 2: kinds of shit, and they gonna turn it into a
Speaker 2: comical fest.
Speaker 1: Niggas, don't give.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. You know, you got to think
Speaker 2: about it like this.
Speaker 1: Don't give a fuck about nigga.
Speaker 2: Have somebody that wears your last name probably right right.
Speaker 2: I have people that wear my last name proudly. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to embarrass myself. First of all, my mama,
Speaker 2: my family, and all my true friends that really care
Speaker 2: about my well being. These are people that have no
Speaker 2: bearing or significance whatsoever in my life. They get involved
Speaker 2: in other people's business and affairs because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you what it comes down to, again, like I said,
Speaker 2: people being intellectually lazy. Instead of them going to go
Speaker 2: do some research, going to go buy them some camera
Speaker 2: equipment and do whatever they do, go do what you do.
Speaker 2: Leave me to fuck alone. That's all I ask. Leave
Speaker 2: me to fuck alone. Keep my name out your mouth,
Speaker 2: and move on with your life. I don't owe you nothing.
Speaker 2: I don't even know you. And see people that think
Speaker 2: because they meet you on some business stuff that they
Speaker 2: know you. And for some reason, man, especially with these
Speaker 2: older cats, they take it that if you're a gentleman
Speaker 2: and you are a businessman and you do everything the
Speaker 2: right way, that you soft something. I am not by
Speaker 2: any means soft dog. I know, man, they better knock
Speaker 2: it the fuck off. But I don't even know why.
Speaker 4: See this shit confuses me like it's confused as a
Speaker 4: mother fight like dudes like you just said, like you know,
Speaker 4: like nigga think I'm soft. Nigga think I'm soft, and
Speaker 4: like like what does he want to do? You want
Speaker 4: to fight?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: What's been said?
Speaker 4: Because this is my thing because for a dude, for
Speaker 4: somebody to go to that point, like what do you
Speaker 4: really want to do? You want to get out in
Speaker 4: the street and do him out? Like, because you're coming
Speaker 4: at me on the aspect of like you just said,
Speaker 4: you're thinking I'm soft, which means in actuality you want
Speaker 4: to get down.
Speaker 2: But why do I want to get out for what?
Speaker 4: Because you want to discredit me behind some business shit
Speaker 4: that don't.
Speaker 2: Have nothing to do with you, that's the thing? Or
Speaker 2: what what?
Speaker 4: Okay I'm a punk? Okay, yeah, nigga, you're a punk.
Speaker 4: You're a bitch ass nigga. You ain't with it. You
Speaker 4: ain't with it cuz or blood or whatever it is, Okay, cool.
Speaker 4: I'm also fifty some years old and I'm not finna
Speaker 4: be in the street duking them out on no aspect
Speaker 4: of like no, no, no, because it's it's just hood mentality.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 4: I've been there and done that I got another I'm
Speaker 4: a business now you get me. I got ship to lose,
Speaker 4: even if it's on the aspect of you know, you
Speaker 4: wanna what you wanna catch a fade? Okay, and then
Speaker 4: what we catch a fade and then somebody wins or loses,
Speaker 4: and then what Now.
Speaker 2: It's like I told you I was gonna whoop that
Speaker 2: nigga ass and whoop. Okay. But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, ain't nothing change. See, I'm gonna tell you what.
Speaker 2: What's change? I'm gonna tell you the podcast is still here.
Speaker 2: You're still not gonna you get me? So what the
Speaker 2: fuck is change? You want to know, a couple of
Speaker 2: fishes because of your pride.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you got to grow up off of
Speaker 1: that ship.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you what happens pride man, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be real men and move on with the situation.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell me what this This is what happens, right,
Speaker 2: because I've seen the time and time again. Right, this
Speaker 2: is this is decision.
Speaker 4: Still you go out and fight a nigga today at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, still what the chronicles?
Speaker 2: Yes, thing's gonna change, whether you win or lose. What's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. We're still gonna be on set next week
Speaker 2: exactly exactly. So, Man, this is the this is but
Speaker 2: this is the crazy part about it. Eight then I'm
Speaker 2: off of it. You go out there and you get
Speaker 2: the best of a nigga right now, his ego was
Speaker 2: bruised because he don't want to talk cash ship and
Speaker 2: don't got his head lumped up. Now he wants to
Speaker 2: come try to shoot your house up.
Speaker 4: And wide you you face aquent because you get your
Speaker 4: head lumped up and you come back and there's bullet
Speaker 4: hole somewhere.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck they gonna think did it? That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Got listen, nigga's a movie. This ain't eighty five.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4: We've all walked these blocks around here as far as
Speaker 4: trying to represent the hood and be whatever. This ain't
Speaker 4: eighty five. You do anything, you shit on the block
Speaker 4: on a corner. Right now, it's gonna be a million
Speaker 4: niggas with their cameras out filming you shitn't you get me?
Speaker 4: And tomorrow it's gonna be on social media. You're not
Speaker 4: getting away with nothing. So if it's about pride shit.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't know. I ain't got nothing
Speaker 4: to do with it. You know, from whatever the situation is,
Speaker 4: you address it. My nigga said something about it. Whatever
Speaker 4: it is, at the end of the day, nothing is
Speaker 4: going to change against the chronicles still gonna be going on.
Speaker 4: You gonna be over there doing your thing. My nigga's
Speaker 4: over there on the other podcast, gonna be doing ay thing.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, it's just gonna
Speaker 4: be another disgrace of two niggas who who was you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Two grown ass men who can't
Speaker 4: come to a settlement or a situation over a misunderstanding
Speaker 4: or whatever. And for all the outside motherfucking shit, it
Speaker 4: don't even need to be you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When niggas say let a nigga catch.
Speaker 2: Your head up fade, this is a head up fade.
Speaker 4: This is a head up fade on business between two individuals.
Speaker 4: All the outside parties, what is the problem?
Speaker 2: You know what though, that's the thing. Hey, this shouldn't
Speaker 2: be no problem because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: this dude has nothing to do with nothing. I'm motherfucker man.
Speaker 2: You know what's up? With these I think we lived
Speaker 2: in the era man where some of these guys and
Speaker 2: I'm really starting to think this, right, I was talking
Speaker 2: to one of my homeboys I played ball with. He's
Speaker 2: a psychiatrist, right. He told me that these hyper aggressive
Speaker 2: older men that sit around barking all the time, they
Speaker 2: have a lot of latent homosexual tendencies. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but listen to what I'm saying. It it it It
Speaker 2: kind of makes sense because when you spend so much
Speaker 2: my cheese, more and bravado and you just up trying
Speaker 2: to just challenge everybody, that means you got some stuff
Speaker 2: that you don't feel good about inside yourself. I'm very
Speaker 2: comfortable with my own skin. Man. I don't have to
Speaker 2: prove to a motherfucker. I'm the hardest nigga to walk
Speaker 2: in the block and doing all that. That's ridiculous, man.
Speaker 2: You know what's gonna wind up happening. You go wind up,
Speaker 2: get niggas out there, niggas bags goa be giving out,
Speaker 2: niggas legs gonna be given out. We old now man,
Speaker 2: knocking the fuck off.
Speaker 4: I I I, like I said, we we we come
Speaker 4: from a time. You know, we have disagreements upon motherfuckers,
Speaker 4: and you know, it's just it's just like it's like
Speaker 4: people talk so much about us as a people and
Speaker 4: why we can't never get no recognition or respect or
Speaker 4: nothing because we do dumb shit. Man, I mean like
Speaker 4: not and not not calling no nobody dumb. I'm not
Speaker 4: saying nobody dumb. I'm just sometimes our actions, you know,
Speaker 4: our actions get in the way of what can.
Speaker 1: Be maturity for us.
Speaker 4: You know, I've never heard a situation within you know,
Speaker 4: within the white community where you know, this situation arises
Speaker 4: and next thing you know, you got you know, threats
Speaker 4: and all that and whatever, you know, and in they situation,
Speaker 4: they do amicable splits and then it's over and done with.
Speaker 4: You know, in our situation, it always got to be
Speaker 4: taken back.
Speaker 2: To the hood.
Speaker 4: You get me. Everything results in the hood nature. You know, Hey,
Speaker 4: it's unfortunate some other stuff though. Man, we can get
Speaker 4: off that negative tip. Listen on that last note. We've
Speaker 4: all came. You get me, and I'm gonna say me you,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say damn, I'm gonna say him, look at
Speaker 4: look at look at what you came through.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You give me, and I'm gonna put this in the
Speaker 4: motherfucking picture form of nigga. You came in as a
Speaker 4: motherfucking you know Vietnam. You'll recruit your young motherfucker. You're seventeen,
Speaker 4: you joined the hood. You going through all the bob
Speaker 4: wire and mud, and you know how niggas be under there,
Speaker 4: crawling up the road and went through all that shit.
Speaker 2: You didn't.
Speaker 4: It's some niggas who don't even make it. You give me,
Speaker 4: you know, watch their homies die. You donet seen niggas
Speaker 4: a wall. You done went through all that trench and
Speaker 4: made it to the other side, been through wars, been
Speaker 4: through motherfucking niggas getting they legs cut off and arms,
Speaker 4: and you done been through all that, made it to
Speaker 4: the other side. You clean right now, And you mean
Speaker 4: to tell me you want to keep crawling through that shit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that shit, man, you got.
Speaker 4: You gotta be you gotta be amazed at what we've
Speaker 4: came through to get to this motherfucking anyway.
Speaker 2: If you from.
Speaker 4: Compton or South central LA, watch Long Beach or the
Speaker 4: outside of Cleveland, god damn man, if you don't crawl
Speaker 4: through that motherfucking mud, and you sitting up right now doing.
Speaker 2: A fucking podcast.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, you gotta be appreciated of what you
Speaker 4: come through. You cannot want to lose where you at
Speaker 4: for nothing. I'm gonna tell you something like I see it.
Speaker 4: I worked extremely hard, man. I came out here to
Speaker 4: California in nineteen eighty eight. I had fifty dollars in
Speaker 4: my pocket, man, and two bags. And one of the
Speaker 4: bags got stolen when I was in Vegas because the
Speaker 4: flight I took was some Cleveland to Vegas. Because remember
Speaker 4: they used to sell them voltures in the newspapers, the
Speaker 4: flight vouxtures.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: They sealed flight flight voxers. So I got me a flight.
Speaker 2: If ought your one way ticket, dog to Vegas. That's
Speaker 2: all he had. Yeah, she said, I don't got no
Speaker 2: more la ones. I got to Vegas. I go to Vegas. Man,
Speaker 2: I turned my back for them to call my mama.
Speaker 2: A nigga done stole my bag. So I come out
Speaker 2: here with three T shirts, my nigga and two pier pins.
Speaker 2: I get to the bus station the lone beach Dog.
Speaker 2: All I do is so I walk to Long Beach
Speaker 2: City College. Because I'm a younger nigga from out of town.
Speaker 2: I don't know So I'm walking down Phs at two
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, two thirty in the morning, passing
Speaker 2: all the hull bows, gang bangers and prostitutes, and I'm
Speaker 2: smiling like a motherfucker eight because I'm a seventeen year
Speaker 2: old nigga that just came out here from Ohio. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm in California now, and I go to the Athletic Department,
Speaker 2: Dog and sit on the stairs until the sun rises
Speaker 2: the next day. Dog, I never look back. It's been beautiful.
Speaker 2: Coming to California changed my life, my nigga, it changed
Speaker 2: my life. If I was in Cleveland. If I would
Speaker 2: have got stuck in Cleveland, ain't no telling what the
Speaker 2: hell I'd be doing. Dog, I'm pretty sure I would
Speaker 2: be locked up. Dog been out there selling dope with
Speaker 2: the homies and doing everything else is guess what when
Speaker 2: I left four years later, everybody I fucked with cockcases.
Speaker 4: Man, you just you gotta be proud about where you
Speaker 4: what you've accomplished. If you can, if you can wake
Speaker 4: up in twenty twenty three and just roll over out
Speaker 4: of bed, roll a blunt and just stand there and
Speaker 4: like I said, if you from Compton or East Cleveland,
Speaker 4: watch Long Beach.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You know what it was, man, and if you hear
Speaker 4: right now, you gotta be proud about that. And you
Speaker 4: don't want to jyp And like I said, I ain't
Speaker 4: discredited in nobody because if in my eyes, if you
Speaker 4: went through all of that, whether you was, whether you
Speaker 4: was the shooter or the rider, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: If you came.
Speaker 4: Through all of that, you gotta be proud about what
Speaker 4: you've accomplished to be able to be standing here right
Speaker 4: there today. Nobody's questioning your o genus, your hardness because
Speaker 4: to me, man, everybody og coming through that shit. If
Speaker 4: you if you was one of the eighties niggas or
Speaker 4: seventies niggas and you in nineties niggas and you came
Speaker 4: through it and you standing here right now, than applause
Speaker 4: to you don't jeopardize that shit for nothing. Nobody questioning
Speaker 4: your hood, rep or what hardness or whatever it is.
Speaker 4: But we gotta be able to be able to We
Speaker 4: gotta be able to be more understanding and different situations.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Everything cannot result to going back to the block shit
Speaker 4: because you don't already made it from there and nobody
Speaker 4: questioning your affiliation or or what you claim. And I'm
Speaker 4: talking about any nigga who listening to this, But we
Speaker 4: gotta learn how to start dealing with difference because we
Speaker 4: already got enough for the young beg's popping like it
Speaker 4: ain't shit. You get me, They're already taking niggas out
Speaker 4: left and right like it ain't shit. We already trying
Speaker 4: to save the motherfucking rest of the neighborhoods from faltering
Speaker 4: and falling down because my young niggas out here is
Speaker 4: really on it. So if you've been an old nigga
Speaker 4: and you done came through this shit, let's let's deal
Speaker 4: with shit in a different situation than just having to
Speaker 4: result of I'm gonna blow a nigger ahead off or
Speaker 4: fuck that nigga. Like, come on, man, we're fifty sixty
Speaker 4: and I've always fifty sixty.
Speaker 1: That's all. I ain't talking no more about it.
Speaker 2: I've always been I've always been very clear. I am
Speaker 2: not no gang banger, never have been one. I got
Speaker 2: plenty of homies to do, you know that, yeah, where
Speaker 2: they're from, but I've never I've made a conscious decision
Speaker 2: or not to participate none of that stuff, right, because
Speaker 2: like you said, man, where we come from, Man, opportunities
Speaker 2: are few and slim, damn right, and I'm one of
Speaker 2: the dudes that made it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I got to get the college education based on me
Speaker 2: being able to play football, right. Got a family dog.
Speaker 2: All my kids are doing extremely well. Man. My daughter
Speaker 2: is nineteen and got her own business dog. Got her
Speaker 2: own business dog. That's incredible to me. Got a son
Speaker 2: that's a fireman. Got a son in the NFL. Dog.
Speaker 2: All of that stuff is stuff that you dream of. Dog.
Speaker 2: I'm not tricking myself out of position for none of
Speaker 2: y'all niggas for nothing, for not none of y'all. Go
Speaker 2: find somebody else that like to like to play them games,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? You know, I was wondering, Man,
Speaker 2: what's going on today? Man? With the kids? Man? They masterly. Man.
Speaker 2: I heard a little UZI don't change his name of
Speaker 2: Lauren or something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't speak on anything involving the letter gang man
Speaker 4: because it Oh, no, they'll be, they'll be, they'll be
Speaker 4: outside man, own us man, real talk.
Speaker 2: No, you know what I will say this, Let's get
Speaker 2: I just go Preferences.
Speaker 4: People have preferences and and you know, now you got
Speaker 4: peep shit tight people doing shit for.
Speaker 1: More likes, followers, and more popularity.
Speaker 4: You know, I just don't know because this ain't my generation,
Speaker 4: so I can't speak on what the decisions are that
Speaker 4: these young females and these young men are making to
Speaker 4: make them, you know, do certain things. Just like everybody
Speaker 4: was speaking on Doja Cat with the tattoo because they're
Speaker 4: saying it's demonic. Everybody's going to demonic route and shit
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You know, I just I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 4: what you know, freedom of speech, and I don't know
Speaker 4: the you know, their artists and their artistic vision is
Speaker 4: taking them to other places. Man, I just wrapped you,
Speaker 4: feel me. I just spoke on the neighborhood and the
Speaker 4: oppression of the neighborhood and as a young black youth
Speaker 4: being a normal kid growing up in the hood, seeing
Speaker 4: the pitfalls and down shit of growing up in the
Speaker 4: place like Compton, California. Not you know, but to me
Speaker 4: still was the beautifulest motherfucking place in the world. You
Speaker 4: give me you, nigga. We had everything, carnivals and motherfucking
Speaker 4: picnics and family. Little get togethers and low riders and
Speaker 4: motherfucking pretty ass girls and hard niggas and you know,
Speaker 4: crooked cops and fucking big time drug dealers and shit, man,
Speaker 4: we had it all in Compton.
Speaker 2: Compton was a movie, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So but I can't speak on You know, that was
Speaker 4: my normal tea growing up as a kid. You get
Speaker 4: me waking up motherfucking watching super Friends on Saturday, or
Speaker 4: going outside riding up and down the street with the
Speaker 4: homies on our beach cruisers, or you know, going to
Speaker 4: fuck with little girls and shit at the mall. And shit,
Speaker 4: I don't know the way these young motherfuckers are coming
Speaker 4: up today. What are they seeing and what are they
Speaker 4: visiting as artists? Are they artists?
Speaker 2: Vic?
Speaker 4: Like I said, the artistic vision, And you know I
Speaker 4: want to I want to be this person today. But
Speaker 4: tomorrow I want to go put on a motherfucking space
Speaker 4: suit and walk around, you know, the mall and be
Speaker 4: like this is the latest fashion. And then tomorrow I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go, you know, be.
Speaker 2: Half naked with which I don't know where they get
Speaker 2: that ship from. I don't think that shit comes. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell you think that ship comes from normal Saturday
Speaker 2: morning cartoons and and fucking you know, having fun with
Speaker 2: your cousins and bike riding. I don't know where that ship.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something because you just made a
Speaker 2: point earlier. The LGBT community is very strong and got
Speaker 2: a lot of power. We actually just signed one of
Speaker 2: our first LGBT shows to eat my Taco Show. Okay, Homegirl,
Speaker 2: Geominny and Squishy. We will have they off the hook.
Speaker 2: We will have them on here one day just to
Speaker 2: come and talk some shit.
Speaker 1: They exactly we get.
Speaker 2: So my Homegirl told me something that was real profound.
Speaker 2: She said, it's a thing right now since the LGBT
Speaker 2: community does have such a big presence, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of people now that's acting like they gay. It's not
Speaker 2: really gay. The the the the Wolf, Vicki Chicks. She
Speaker 2: said that she think Little nas X not gay. Mm
Speaker 2: And so it's a lot of people just doing stuff
Speaker 2: for lights and it it all comes down to clicks
Speaker 2: and likes because people want to feel validated nowadays. So
Speaker 2: if it takes a dude to go out, they could
Speaker 2: be straight as the motherfucking they. They could be straight
Speaker 2: as a arrow, come out and say he gave to
Speaker 2: get some attention. That's what people are doing now, I think,
Speaker 2: or they flirting with the idea or whatever you feel
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: We just frowned upon shit differently as me as a kid.
Speaker 4: Not to say, you know, to each his own, you
Speaker 4: do what the fuck you wanna do. But I just
Speaker 4: come from a different time, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: My mom grew up, you know, from Guffport, Mississippi. My
Speaker 4: father was from Tampa Bay, Florida. I grew up a
Speaker 4: normal kid. You get me, salt or. I don't know
Speaker 4: what what makes or turns or what you know happens,
Speaker 4: but I consider myself. But they all turned around and
Speaker 4: say they grew up normal. You get me a motherfucker
Speaker 4: who want to be demonic or wear certain shit or
Speaker 4: say certain shit. They'll claim they grew up normal. My
Speaker 4: parents was this and I was a normal kid. So
Speaker 4: you never know what transition, what turns to what make
Speaker 4: a motherfucker really do? What the fuck do they do?
Speaker 4: Is it for attention? Is it to gather more fans?
Speaker 4: Is it for publicity? I mean, because there's motherfuckers who
Speaker 4: are told doing certain shit could get you to another level.
Speaker 4: You'll give mom saying you do this. Man, I'm telling you,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have the whole world looking at you if
Speaker 4: you do this. You know when some people.
Speaker 2: Feed off of that shit you give me.
Speaker 4: Oh I can have I can have ten more million
Speaker 4: fans if I dress up like a crazy motherfucker and
Speaker 4: do this and do that.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: Because in our business still no publicity is bad publicity yep.
Speaker 2: And social currency actually is more valuable the money now
Speaker 2: looked at it like money. If you ask the average
Speaker 2: kid today would they rather have two hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: or twenty million followers? I guarantee you more than half
Speaker 2: of them will say, give me the twenty million followers.
Speaker 2: I mean, you go say, hey, give us the money,
Speaker 2: give us the fuck about it. I've always been that.
Speaker 4: I've always you know, I've been rapping for a long time,
Speaker 4: done a couple of movies, video games, whatever. I've always
Speaker 4: considered myself to be an artist who was direct and
Speaker 4: in tune with what I spoke about. But let's face it,
Speaker 4: there have been artists who have had triple more success
Speaker 4: than I've had.
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we think about, hey, how many records you don't
Speaker 2: sold though.
Speaker 1: Who knows? Man over twenty million records.
Speaker 2: Over to that. That's not no, that's not no easy feat. Dog,
Speaker 2: You've got a whole lot.
Speaker 4: Of I've always been comfortable with being who I am.
Speaker 4: I was talking to a nigga the other day and
Speaker 4: telling them, you know, there's certain dudes who come into
Speaker 4: this business and they go, I needed my fucking hit,
Speaker 4: I need a hit.
Speaker 1: I've never.
Speaker 4: I've never went into the studio and said I need
Speaker 4: to do this.
Speaker 2: Nigga.
Speaker 4: Put on the beat and I write what come to
Speaker 4: my brain? Do I look to see if it's gonna
Speaker 4: get me to performing at the Grammy status. I don't
Speaker 4: chase that. So I am more comfortable just being the
Speaker 4: person I am than trying to chase fame. You get me,
Speaker 4: you can just give me the paycheck and I'm good.
Speaker 4: I do my job and I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: I mean, you talked about that kind of last night
Speaker 2: when you see it punching them. The homies from TDE
Speaker 2: had reached out to you to do the thing with Kendrick,
Speaker 2: and you was like, I didn't ask them for no
Speaker 2: money or not. I didn't.
Speaker 4: I I never uh shout out to my nigga, uh,
Speaker 4: Top and Punch Tde. When I went to do the song,
Speaker 4: I never expected any money. I I didn't. I didn't go, oh, well, shit, uh,
Speaker 4: how much am I gonna be paid?
Speaker 1: Or or uh.
Speaker 4: I wonder if they gonna try to cash me out.
Speaker 4: I went on the aspect of it was after math,
Speaker 4: it was Tde, it was Kendrick. That's what I went
Speaker 4: and did the song for. I think I got to
Speaker 4: check a couple of months later. Did not expect the
Speaker 4: motherfucker at all because I did it off of just
Speaker 4: general purposes of Oh, them niggas recognize me, they want
Speaker 4: me to be on the motherfucker record. Oh shit, man,
Speaker 4: please let's go.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many people would have tricked that
Speaker 2: opportunity off and as soon as they'd have got there
Speaker 2: been asking how much nigga get paid and fucked up
Speaker 2: a relationship.
Speaker 4: I don't do shit like that, especially when I know
Speaker 4: it's it's of a certain level. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 4: all you had to do was say Dre and Punch
Speaker 4: and Top and Kendrick, and I was like, yeah, we'll
Speaker 4: tell y'all want me at the studio, and that was it.
Speaker 4: I never in the back of my mind hit a nigga,
Speaker 4: and it was like, am I gonna get paid even
Speaker 4: when I mean cause you know it's you know, niggas
Speaker 4: work like, oh you fucking with Drake? Oh nigga, I
Speaker 4: need like thirty thousand or WOOTI wom it was dever
Speaker 4: I like I said, I do shit, man, just man,
Speaker 4: fuck it. It was a It was a motherfucking I
Speaker 4: just chalk it up as an experience of doing something
Speaker 4: for motherfuckers that I was appreciative that the motherfucker hit me.
Speaker 4: They could have hit a ganger, They could have hit
Speaker 4: a gang of niggas.
Speaker 2: Give me shit.
Speaker 1: Drake could have got on it himself. Motherfucker.
Speaker 4: You got Wren, you got Quick, you got motherfucking yg
Speaker 4: you got Tiger, You got a couple of niggas who
Speaker 4: playing Compton, who have significant rap careers, who they could
Speaker 4: have easily been like, man, let's go.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? That is a real
Speaker 2: hip hop He had dough Dog. It didn't surprised me
Speaker 2: when he hits you what dog DoD is a real
Speaker 2: like hip hop dude. He studies his history and stuff.
Speaker 2: But was he he was in the studio when did Yeah,
Speaker 2: definitely he was there. So I mean, like I said,
Speaker 2: some people chase fame in our day and eight. Now
Speaker 2: it's all about the popularity of the camera and the click.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The more controversial shit you put out there, the more follows,
Speaker 4: the more likes, the more shit you get, the more
Speaker 4: you go viral.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: That's the thing. Nowadays. I've never gave a fuck about
Speaker 4: this shit.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I was one of those late blooming niggas. I really
Speaker 4: didn't like the Internet. I didn't really like digital I
Speaker 4: didn't really like streaming, none of that, because I was
Speaker 4: an old school nigga. It's very you know, it's very useful,
Speaker 4: very successful. You adapt with the times. But I'm still
Speaker 4: in the same position.
Speaker 2: In need of us say that you're probably making more
Speaker 2: money now than he was, scientist, I God damn right.
Speaker 2: But that's just the way it is, you know.
Speaker 4: But I'm fortunate enough that I've been able to come
Speaker 4: through this time and adapt with the times and social
Speaker 4: media and the Internet and streaming and all that. But
Speaker 4: still I'm still the same type of nigga. I don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck about the fame.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what one thing I want to do, man,
Speaker 2: because we was gonna start talking about music a lot
Speaker 2: more on the show before we get up out of here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: have you heard that new DJ Quick record? Yeah? I
Speaker 2: heard class that motherfucker. It's banging. I was banging like
Speaker 2: a motherfucker.
Speaker 4: I really liked it when it first came out. I
Speaker 4: heard it, so it was a new sound for me
Speaker 4: for Quick. Yeah, it was a new sound, so it kind.
Speaker 2: Of threw me off at first, But the more I
Speaker 2: listened to it, I would in the truck and took
Speaker 2: a ride. I said, this motherfucker is hard, definitely, and
Speaker 2: Quick is very underrated as an MC. Talk about this
Speaker 2: production all the time.
Speaker 4: Everybody you know rates production high. You know, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of us who feel like we don't get the
Speaker 4: recognition that we should as artists. Shit, I've been rapping
Speaker 4: what since motherfucking eighty eight, and all my records have
Speaker 4: been distinctive and been about, you know, the neighborhood and
Speaker 4: Compton and the uplift lifting and whatever whatever. But a
Speaker 4: lot of us don't get that recognition that we feel
Speaker 4: we deserve. Some of us don't give a fuck, but
Speaker 4: at some point, you know, some people want to be
Speaker 4: recognized as contributing Quick as one of them.
Speaker 2: And so I think you are.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck, man, I don't give me
Speaker 4: a flower or you can give me a motherfucking blunt,
Speaker 4: whatever it is. Man, I don't look for it, you know.
Speaker 4: I just appreciate that. Motherfuckers steal. Motherfuckers know what I've done,
Speaker 4: and I'm cool with that.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm cool with that. You and Quick did a
Speaker 2: record before I.
Speaker 4: Did a couple of records on the Rosecranz project shout
Speaker 4: out the problem and Quick, Yeah, we've we've done a
Speaker 4: couple of songs together.
Speaker 2: We definitely need to get Quick up in here to
Speaker 2: sit down, doog. Yeah, we should asking humbly that you
Speaker 2: come on the show and bless us with your presents. Dog.
Speaker 1: I got a single drop in April twenty eighth.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you know before we go, I want
Speaker 2: to talk about your album joints on that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: I got a record call Lessons Finn come out May fifth,
Speaker 4: uh and and let me get let me just clarify this.
Speaker 4: I don't try to use the podcast platform to promote music,
Speaker 4: and I tell you to do it all the time.
Speaker 4: I still tell me all time to do it. I
Speaker 4: don't like to do it because you know, Gangst the
Speaker 4: Chronicles is Gangst the Chronicles. But you know, Yeah, we
Speaker 4: got a record coming out May fifth. It's called Lessons
Speaker 4: Part two. It's got a couple of features on it,
Speaker 4: you know, Dave's DJ Premier, DJ Muggs E forty. The
Speaker 4: single is dropping on the twenty eighth of April. It's
Speaker 4: called the Paper feature in Domino. You know, if you
Speaker 4: ain't heard of Domino, he's the here we go, you know,
Speaker 4: he ain't been around for a while for a while,
Speaker 4: so or we're trying to bring Dingle. Yeah, I'm dropping
Speaker 4: that as the first single.
Speaker 2: And you got the bang of that song with E
Speaker 2: forty on that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm just working, you know, that's what we do.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm one of them dudes. Man, I'm I'm how
Speaker 4: many job you got? I got jobs?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: So I'm trying. I still got the music going, We're
Speaker 4: doing the podcast. My son is getting ready to go
Speaker 4: to college. So I'm doing it all man, just to
Speaker 4: stay active. I appreciate everybody tuning in, you know, So
Speaker 4: let's just have fun and let's keep it going, hey,
Speaker 4: I'll stay safe out there, man, and just watch yourselves
Speaker 4: when do listens Drop Lessons Part two, Drops made the
Speaker 4: fifth Sinko d Mayo single Demyo.
Speaker 2: We gonna have a link up in were gonna have
Speaker 2: a link up in there form for sure. I just
Speaker 2: want to ask you one more question because when we was,
Speaker 2: when you was in the back in the warehouse playing
Speaker 2: the record for me, you and Dave East both came
Speaker 2: off on that motherfucker's.
Speaker 4: On Dog Davies. That's my nigga. Shout out Davies. Like
Speaker 4: I said, there's a beast. There's a lot of dudes
Speaker 4: in this industry that you know, you meet and you
Speaker 4: come across niggas really genuinely have love for you. You
Speaker 4: know you can hit them up with no hesitation, you know.
Speaker 4: Uh to me, that's uh scarface as DJ Premier Davies
Speaker 4: is one of them. DJ Muggs is one of them.
Speaker 4: You know, be Real is one of them. Exhibit is
Speaker 4: one of them niggas that I could just hit like
Speaker 4: off of GP be like, what's up? Two seconds? What's up?
Speaker 2: Eight?
Speaker 1: So shout out talking.
Speaker 2: Now you did something with Bishop and with glasses too, right.
Speaker 4: I got a song with Glasses on the new album,
Speaker 4: and I did a song with Bishop.
Speaker 1: We still mixing that around.
Speaker 4: We're probably gonna say that for the next project, but definitely. Man,
Speaker 4: Like I said, you run across dudes, you know, and
Speaker 4: I get it. Some dudes they gotta charge you and
Speaker 4: you know whatever, whatever. But there's a lot of dudes
Speaker 4: I've met over the course of my journey who I
Speaker 4: got respect for, who they have respect back. And that's
Speaker 4: how shit gets accomplished, man.
Speaker 2: As is. We don't been siting uping this muff for
Speaker 2: the running their mouth for a minute. Man. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: we out of here, man, make sure you like, subscribe, rate,
Speaker 2: do all that good shit, all right, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: Oh and before I go, if you in the LANDA
Speaker 2: this week, come and holler at me at the Black
Speaker 2: Effect Podcast Festival. I will be out there in the house.
Speaker 2: I'm coming to the A. All right, come fuck with you, boy, Jim.
Speaker 3: Like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing.
Speaker 2: Well. That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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