WEBVTT - 051323 The Two Parties are Not the Same…Where is Right-Wing Accountability? (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>And now watching my mic back like.

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<v Speaker 2>We can strikes from headquarters behind.

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<v Speaker 1>In those of you just tuning in the civic because

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm your host, Rams's job is Ram's job. I

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<v Speaker 1>am now back again as ken mister. We still got

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<v Speaker 1>more free to stick around for the show. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the difference in the political parties. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>two parties are not the same. Again, we had a

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<v Speaker 1>interesting conversation with a dear friend of ours who basically

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<v Speaker 1>told us that the political parties were the same in

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<v Speaker 1>this country. And we had a long conversation to the contrary.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're trying to share some points with you if

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, you or someone you know feels that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna be talking about that. We're also gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be dedicating our way Black History fact to a white allies.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a rarity around here. You definitely want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>dedicating a white subject in the way black history fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's definitely rare. We try to highlight, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>black folks for that, but this one is worth it,

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<v Speaker 1>I promise. So first and foremost, we're going to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>We love them all right. I'm just going to read

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<v Speaker 1>from Stop aap I Hate. This is directly from them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope that you support what it is they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing for folks that don't know. The most recent mass

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<v Speaker 1>shooting in Dallas in the Dallas area left a six

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<v Speaker 1>year old child without his family, lost his mother, father,

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<v Speaker 1>and newborn sibling. Stop aap I Hate is heartbroken and

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<v Speaker 1>devastated by the horrific act of violence in the Texas

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<v Speaker 1>mall that claimed the lives of at least eight people,

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<v Speaker 1>including three young children, and wounded seven. We now know

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<v Speaker 1>four of the lives lost were Asian people, three members

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<v Speaker 1>of a Korean family, as well as an Indian woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the eight killed were people of color. You

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<v Speaker 1>also know that investigators are examining the alleged gunman's apparent

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<v Speaker 1>adherence to white supremacist and neo Nazi ideologies. This tragedy

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<v Speaker 1>is yet another reminder of the dangerous consequences of hate

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<v Speaker 1>and bigotry. The ongoing normalization and amplification of white supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>and far right extremism poses a growing threat to communities

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<v Speaker 1>of all stripes across the nation, and inaction on the

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<v Speaker 1>issue continues to destroy lives. It's pastime for our leaders

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<v Speaker 1>to step up and take swift, decisive action to address

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<v Speaker 1>the root causes of racism, enophobia, and other forms of hate.

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<v Speaker 1>We also join other Asian American groups in calling on

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<v Speaker 1>lawmakers to take immediate and decisive action to address the

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<v Speaker 1>rising tide of gun violence, which is increasingly terrorizing aapi communities,

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<v Speaker 1>from the shootings in Atlanta to Monterey Park to Allen

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<v Speaker 1>We are outraged and they should be two. It is

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<v Speaker 1>unacceptable that someone influenced by white supremacy and extremist ideology

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<v Speaker 1>is allowed to possess and use firearms design for war

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<v Speaker 1>to carry out violent and tacks against innocent people. Our

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<v Speaker 1>leaders need to prioritize the safety of our communities over

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<v Speaker 1>the interest of gun manufacturers and lobbyists. We cannot afford

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<v Speaker 1>to wait for the next tragedy to act. Our elected

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<v Speaker 1>officials need to break this cycle of hate fueled violence.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the safety and welfare of all depends on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And because it is indeed possible, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>visit STOPAAPI hate dot org so that you can support

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<v Speaker 1>them toward this end. And I do believe that they've

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<v Speaker 1>organized something for the little boy that was left behind,

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<v Speaker 1>if you feel so inclined as to help this child

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<v Speaker 1>who now has lost his entire family. Okay, the two

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<v Speaker 1>parties are not the same. So now we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about right wing accountability. Excuse me exactly, I'll begin.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know we were making things up for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So the title is where is right that makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lom So that's why we're talking about it, or it's

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<v Speaker 1>a right wing accountability or the lack thereof all. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>this past week, former president, former president was found liable

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<v Speaker 1>for sexual abuse. Okay, this means to civil suit, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see it in entirely that it doesn't have as

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<v Speaker 1>much weight as a criminal suit. The burden of proof

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<v Speaker 1>is lower all those things, right, But again, let's talk accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a pattern of behavior here, indeed that was started

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<v Speaker 1>by him himself in my mind, when he was on

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<v Speaker 1>that tour bus being recorded in his own voice, and

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<v Speaker 1>then subsequently admitted to saying that it's okay to walk

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<v Speaker 1>up to women, and not just his own voice. Though

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<v Speaker 1>this is a video, so you can see him saying this.

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<v Speaker 3>This wasn't doctor, This wasn't Alio added to images later

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<v Speaker 3>like no this.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the bus, but I okay, so go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, just there's it's a video of him saying

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<v Speaker 3>these things. It's not just you know, some audio from

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<v Speaker 3>an encountery he had. You don't have to use your

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<v Speaker 3>imagination because you said in his voice, well you could

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<v Speaker 3>see him saying it, so you don't even have to.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is this is something. I never saw that part,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did see the audio and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>photo of the bus, and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is years ago. So anyway to this point, however,

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<v Speaker 1>despite it, you know, the burden proof being lower, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know the bar rather I guess, being a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit easier to clear or a civil case than a

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<v Speaker 1>criminal case. There is something to be said here, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, the jury has to be unanimous. That means

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who heard what should have been both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Donald Trump didn't himself show up. He committed

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<v Speaker 1>to testify and decided he wasn't going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>at the last minute, and then but he had his

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer's present. They presented what evidence they had. A unanimous

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<v Speaker 1>panel of jurors decided that Donald Trump was liable for

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<v Speaker 1>sexual abuse, not liable for rape. Okay, So when he

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<v Speaker 1>says later on in the story, when he says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's politically motivated, it's a witch hunt, I would think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if they're going to take him down, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to tie a word to his name, that would

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<v Speaker 1>probably be the one they would do. So any reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>thinking individual would see this and say, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>people to split the difference if they're really politically motivated

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to sink somebody somebody's ship. Right. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>that that that shred of doubt, that that little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of deniability that's introduced into these conversations frequently, these right

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<v Speaker 1>wing conversations, is enough to keep everybody who subscribes to

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<v Speaker 1>that party. I don't want to say the philosophies, but

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<v Speaker 1>that particular party. It allows them to live in a

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<v Speaker 1>shared delusion among other folks who subscribe. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>part that's even more discouraging is that some of them

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<v Speaker 1>don't even need a delusion in the wake of that

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<v Speaker 1>story breaking while he was campaigning, which is insane, And

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<v Speaker 1>this happened while he was campaigning and he was still elected.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. There was a young lady on

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<v Speaker 1>the news with her two daughters letting them know that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you're just gonna get groped, like, yes, that is okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that just happened.

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<v Speaker 3>In order to stay true to her outward political beliefs

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<v Speaker 3>and support of this man, she told her daughters on

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<v Speaker 3>television that the things that he were saying were not

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<v Speaker 3>just true, but that they were okay. So some of

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<v Speaker 3>them don't even need the doubt or the delusion or

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, that space for them to retreat into

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<v Speaker 3>and say, hey, well maybe it was this. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>them blindly support no matter what, to their own detriment,

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<v Speaker 3>to the detriment of their children.

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<v Speaker 1>And to the rest of us too.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm sure, but a lot of people would do

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<v Speaker 3>things for their own benefit if it hurt everybody else,

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<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't care. But I'm saying, to their own detriment

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<v Speaker 3>and the detriment of their children, you didn't have to

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<v Speaker 3>make it so broad as to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, really really have a bleeding heart and really

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<v Speaker 1>want the best for your countrymen, for her daughters. In

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<v Speaker 1>order to stay in line with her president, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she couldn't waiver on TV. She had to say to

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<v Speaker 1>her daughters on television that the things that he just

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<v Speaker 1>said with regards to where he could just grab women,

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<v Speaker 1>that that was okay? Who said this? Who said which part?

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<v Speaker 1>To her daughters? She was just a random supporter of his.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a celebrity or no, no, I'm sure we

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<v Speaker 1>could find that video. It was just a random supporter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make America great.

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<v Speaker 3>And when presented with that information, after shed just for

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<v Speaker 3>several minutes talked about how great a man he was,

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<v Speaker 3>he couldn't say, oh my god, he's disgusting. So to

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<v Speaker 3>stand true to what she'd been saying already, she had

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<v Speaker 3>to turn to her children on live television, her two daughters,

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<v Speaker 3>her two young daughters, get that off and tell them

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<v Speaker 3>that the things that he just said were okay.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this? So, as if that weren't enough, here's

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<v Speaker 1>another trick. So, first off, the former president himself says

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<v Speaker 1>he never met the woman he's now found liable for

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<v Speaker 1>sexual abuse. Her name is EJ. And Carol says he's

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<v Speaker 1>never even met her. Right. If you read the story

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<v Speaker 1>about how she recalls the interaction between the two of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you see that's it feels very un rand for this dude.

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<v Speaker 1>But for him to say he never met her, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all his followers need. It's his way and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody else is out to get him. Doesn't matter that

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<v Speaker 1>a jury voted unanimously to h to find him liable

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<v Speaker 1>for this and not liable for rape. That doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>as long as what he says. It's almost like he's

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<v Speaker 1>like a deity. It's like a cult, right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you've said that before, but I'll add to that. He

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<v Speaker 1>plans to appeal this jury's decision, which further puts distance,

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<v Speaker 1>put puts more distance rather between him and accountability. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's his right. You know, that's everybody's right. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a decision that you feel the trial wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>right or whatever, you can't appeal it. I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>how he's going to approach this and get that, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know it is it is. You're right if you

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<v Speaker 1>can figure out a way to do it. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a team of lawyers still somehow after firing and

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<v Speaker 1>people quitting and whatever. But I expected to definitely see that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the impact of this story is weakened because

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I don't know her. Well, first off, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a civil suit. I've never been he says, good. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's just insane. Yeah yeah. And there's photos of

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<v Speaker 1>them together. There's photos of them. So so anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is a person that we already know, is he

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<v Speaker 1>There's no accountability for this person. He claimed that the

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<v Speaker 1>election was stolen from him, right, and then really messed

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<v Speaker 1>up the whole country further divided of extremely divided country

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<v Speaker 1>over that one issue. Where we are in Arizona, we

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<v Speaker 1>had our fair grounds out here. We have a place

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<v Speaker 1>called the Arizona Fairgrounds. It's this huge like place where

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<v Speaker 1>everyone goes. The Arizona State Fair is a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>for folks that don't come to Arizona. Forgive us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like that here. They occupied the fairgrounds to recount

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<v Speaker 1>the election. You guys, remember this, the election recounts, You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Because this guy couldn't take that

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<v Speaker 1>l the way that he should have. We heard him

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get up the votes and trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had court cases across the country, wasted everybody's time, wasted,

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars, duped money out of his supporters, millions

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<v Speaker 1>from people who are very poor, no accountability. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after every single court case resulted in a loss for

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<v Speaker 1>his administration, everyone or the case just being thrown out, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>every single one in every state that he challenged in

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<v Speaker 1>across everything, they could not substantial one claim, could not

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<v Speaker 1>prove one claim. Oh it's a mass conspiracy. Indeed, including judges.

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<v Speaker 1>They reappointed everyone, right, not just people that are on

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<v Speaker 1>the left, but people in his own party. He has

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<v Speaker 1>a name for them, are called Rhinos Republicans in name only.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an acronym. So no accountability for that. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>it a step further. Every single suit brought against him

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<v Speaker 1>is politically motivated. It's a witch hunt. Mar A Lago documents,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff in Georgia, indeed, the the Stormy Daniels stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Now this, even when we have overwhelming proofs and black

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<v Speaker 4>and white evidence that points to the contrary and his

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<v Speaker 4>mind and the mind of those who support him, it's

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<v Speaker 4>all nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all no need to hold this guy accountable at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So We'll take it even further. What has this man?

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<v Speaker 1>What did he campaign on? Build the wall? No wall?

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<v Speaker 1>Sadly enough that build that wall was enough, but to

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<v Speaker 1>stoke the fire of his supporters, not any promise of

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<v Speaker 1>anything that he'd do for you. Ran his campaign on

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<v Speaker 1>the foundation of I'm going to kick those people out

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<v Speaker 1>and keep them from ever coming back here. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>voted for him based on that. So and he did

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to that end. So watch this, no bolder wall.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had a Republican Senate and a Republican House,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe at a point in his presidency and could

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<v Speaker 1>not get that across the line. I suspect because it

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<v Speaker 1>was an empty promise among many no accountability. Let's move

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<v Speaker 1>it on because we can pick on that guy all day.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about where's the accountability for the former president.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about right wing accountability. So let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>another guy, George Santos. I know George Santos. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>may not know who this guy is if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>follow the news very closely, your politics very closely. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a little bit about him. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>read from CNN the Justice Department on Wednesday unsealed federal

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<v Speaker 1>charges against Representative George Santos and the New York republic

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<v Speaker 1>and the New York Republican is in custody. Okay, Santos,

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<v Speaker 1>who's astonishing pattern of lies and fabrications stunned even hard

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<v Speaker 1>Politicos has been charged on a thirteen count indictment, including

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<v Speaker 1>seven counts of wirefraud, three counts of money laundering, one

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<v Speaker 1>count of theft of public funds, and two counts of

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<v Speaker 1>making materially false statements to the House of Representatives. You

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<v Speaker 1>can be charged for that. So here's here's where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going with this. I know that you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to us, you may not know who this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you don't know this story, but belong. The short

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<v Speaker 1>of it is, this guy basically lied his way into

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Representatives. He lied about where he went

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<v Speaker 1>to school, He lied about everything, who his parents were,

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<v Speaker 1>how he got his money, what connections he everything of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, you know what I'm saying, that he could

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<v Speaker 1>use to embellish and then, after being pressured four months

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<v Speaker 1>after the election, admitted that he made some embellishments and

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<v Speaker 1>that he was sorry, but he really intended to serve

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<v Speaker 1>the people of where's this place Staten Island in New York? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>He made some embellishments on his resume, and he tried

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<v Speaker 1>to like downplay. Sure. Now, the House of Representatives has

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican the way there's a long Island. So the

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<v Speaker 1>House of Representatives has a Republican majority, okay, And this

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<v Speaker 1>Republican majority has the capacity to hold this man accountable,

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<v Speaker 1>to expel him from the House, to maintain some semblance

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<v Speaker 1>of integrity among their ranks, and to ensure that the

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<v Speaker 1>people who put their trust in them know that that

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<v Speaker 1>trust is well placed. Have the House of Representatives done

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<v Speaker 1>anything whatsoever to move to make this right? I would

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<v Speaker 1>say no. And what they have done real quickly. What

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<v Speaker 1>they have done is they've removed him from like a

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<v Speaker 1>committee assignment or something like that. Why because he was

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction. My question she's still a sitting member, though.

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<v Speaker 1>My question question to you is why would they There's

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<v Speaker 1>no accountability, there's no consequences if they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Great point, but why hote someone accountable when your supporters

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<v Speaker 3>have shown you that blind solidarity is really what they're

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<v Speaker 3>here for.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they're here for.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that when our principles and our people, no

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<v Speaker 3>matter what they do or say.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that with the Raphael Warnock versus herschel Walker

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<v Speaker 1>campaign in Georgia. Everybody said, I don't care, I will vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody on the right said, I don't care, I will

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<v Speaker 1>vote for herschel Walker, who cannot read, he cannot talk.

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<v Speaker 1>He is Everything he says is nonsensical. He has lived

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<v Speaker 1>in a moral life, he does not believe, he does

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<v Speaker 1>not live by what he says that he lives by.

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<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't care less if he's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>in there and do Republican bidding. He's our guy. It

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<v Speaker 1>does not matter that Rafael Warnock is a minister, that

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<v Speaker 1>he's actually you know, none of that stuff matters. Preaches

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<v Speaker 1>that I think it was doctor King's church, doctor Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Luther King's church, all this stuff out the window, Warnock,

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<v Speaker 1>is it okay? So this is the party of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>God and Christian values and so forth, and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to vote for the minister in labor.

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<v Speaker 3>You can do a whole show on the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>Christianity and nationalism and the intersection that they've met at

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<v Speaker 3>and the way that they've used that to manipulate those

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<v Speaker 3>who are less politically educated into thinking that they're some

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<v Speaker 3>bidding of the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know where we start them. Where we start

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<v Speaker 1>is slavery. That Bible was used to keep us all

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<v Speaker 1>in chains, all right, well, us, me and you and

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<v Speaker 1>us all in chains to the benefit of other folks anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't the Republicans that held this gentleman accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the justice system. Indeed, what we see with

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<v Speaker 1>the former president the justice system, and those wheels turn

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<v Speaker 1>very slowly.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when the justice system steps in and law

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<v Speaker 3>enforcement steps in, now they're screaming defund and now they

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<v Speaker 3>stand opposed to the same how about that? And the

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<v Speaker 3>same people go ahead scream back the blue now stand

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to them, because how dare they try to hold

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<v Speaker 3>us accountable for something?

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<v Speaker 1>There? It is? All right? Now, I want to circle

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<v Speaker 1>back to the person we talked about in the first

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show, the person with the RWDS patch

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<v Speaker 1>on his willet prove Best or whatever he was wearing,

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<v Speaker 1>the tactical thing that he was wearing as he was

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<v Speaker 1>shooting up that Aldrmal and Dallas or in the Dallas area. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>accountability all right, So casting doubt on the RWDS slash

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi shooter. So rather than accept that this one is

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<v Speaker 1>on us, indeed, many of these mass shootings, the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of these mass shootings is on us instead of instead

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<v Speaker 1>of some right, instead of some accountability. What have we

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<v Speaker 1>done that has birthed this? What has what connections is

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<v Speaker 1>this person making to what it is I believe should

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<v Speaker 1>be our principles and values instead of doing some soul

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<v Speaker 1>searching and figuring out what the what is, what we

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<v Speaker 1>end up with is what I believe to be more

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<v Speaker 1>toward the opposite. So, first off, this guy posted on

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<v Speaker 1>Russian message boards, where you know, it's not moderated for

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<v Speaker 1>hatred and racism, that sort of stuff. But people are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to cast out because they're like, this dude doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even speak Russian, why is he posting on Russian message

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<v Speaker 1>boards without you know, trying to find the real truth

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<v Speaker 1>of the matter. The fact is that their English forum

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<v Speaker 1>or English pages on this Russian Russian website or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>English is the international language. So if you speak Russian

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<v Speaker 1>and the other person speaks Spanish, more than likely you'll

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<v Speaker 1>communicate in English because it's the English. It's the language

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<v Speaker 1>most folks know, so most foreign websites have a place

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<v Speaker 1>to interface with other English speakers, like this I found.

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<v Speaker 1>And indeed the Russian message board that this guy was

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<v Speaker 1>on does have that. But if they on the right,

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<v Speaker 1>if the reporters and pundits and folks say, well, how

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<v Speaker 1>was he on a Russian message boards if he's a

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican and he doesn't speak Russian, again, to cast doubt

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<v Speaker 1>rather than accept some sort of accountability or trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do some soul searching. Like I mentioned, now, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>also has the same name. This mass shooter has the

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<v Speaker 1>same name as a known drug cartel gang member, and

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<v Speaker 1>folks are trying to say that he was a drug

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<v Speaker 1>a cartel gang member rather than a far right Nazi shooter. Right, again,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to cast out just has the same name as

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. You know, a lot of times people have

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<v Speaker 1>the same names, and again the idea is to cast

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<v Speaker 1>doubt on this person's Nazi ties. So Elon Musk even

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<v Speaker 1>weighed in on this like, well, I don't know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just asking questions this type of post, right, And this

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<v Speaker 1>is why Q and I don't have Twitter anymore. We

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<v Speaker 1>deactivated our Twitter. We are not going to be party

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<v Speaker 1>to that guy. That guy there. Yeah, and I implore you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a listener, I know there's information shared there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know that the good outweighs the bad. There,

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<v Speaker 1>we invite you to come over to our side, delete it,

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<v Speaker 1>join fan base. Let's roll, all right, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say real quick, the BBC confirmed independently that this shooter

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<v Speaker 1>was behind his post on Facebook, even though folks tried

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<v Speaker 1>to cast out on the authenticity of his Facebook account

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And of course this list goes on beyond

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<v Speaker 1>these three. Clarence Thomas, you know that list is very long.

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<v Speaker 1>So where's right being a right wing accountability knows. But

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<v Speaker 1>All right, today we are talking about the man John Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>He was born May ninth, eighteen hundred and he lived

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<v Speaker 1>until December second, eighteen fifty nine. He was an American

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<v Speaker 1>abolitionist leader. This is from Wikipedia. By the way, he

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<v Speaker 1>first reached national prominence for his radical abolitionism and fighting

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<v Speaker 1>in Bleeding Kansas was eventually captured and executed for a

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<v Speaker 1>failed incitement of a slave rebellion at Harper's Ferry preceding

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<v Speaker 1>the American Civil War. An evangelical Christian of strong religious convictions,

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<v Speaker 1>Brown was profoundly influenced by the Puritan faith of his upbringing.

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<v Speaker 1>He believed that he was an instrument of God, raised

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<v Speaker 1>up to strike the death blow to American slavery, a

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<v Speaker 1>sacred obligation. Brown was the leading exponent of violence in

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<v Speaker 1>the American abolitionist movement, believing it was necessary to end

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<v Speaker 1>American slavery after decades of peaceful effort had failed. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to remind you one more time, this dude is white.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown said repeatedly that in working to free the enslaved,

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<v Speaker 1>he was following Christian ethics, including the Golden Rule, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the U s Declaration of Independence, which states

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<v Speaker 1>that all men were created equal. He stated repeatedly that

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<v Speaker 1>in his view, the two principles meant the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown first gained national attention when he led anti slavery

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<v Speaker 1>volunteers and his own sons during the Bleeding Kansas Crisis

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<v Speaker 1>of the late eighteen fifties. A state level civil war

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<v Speaker 1>over whether Kansas would enter the Union as a slave

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<v Speaker 1>state or a free state. He was dissatisfied with the

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<v Speaker 1>abolitionist pacifism, saying of the pacifist pacifists sorry quote, these

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<v Speaker 1>men are all taught. What we need is action, action unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>In May eighteen fifty six, Brown and his sons killed

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<v Speaker 1>five supporters of slavery in the Pottowatomi Massacre, a response

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<v Speaker 1>to the sacking of Lawrence by pro slavery forces. Brown

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<v Speaker 1>then commanded anti slavery forces at the Battle of Blackjack

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<v Speaker 1>and the Battle of Ohsowatomi. I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you know that these were battles. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>like sneaking in people's houses and murdering people. You come

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<v Speaker 1>with your weapons, I come with my weapons, and I win.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a battle. We went to war. We both know

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. Right. In October eighteen fifty nine, Brown

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<v Speaker 1>led a raid on the Federal armory at Harper's Ferry,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia today West Virginia, intending to start a slave liberation

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<v Speaker 1>movement that would spread south. He had prepared a provisional

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<v Speaker 1>constitution for the revised slavery free United States that he

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<v Speaker 1>hoped to bring about he sees the armory, but seven

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<v Speaker 1>people were killed and ten more were injured. Brown intended

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<v Speaker 1>to arm slaves with weapons from the armory, but only

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<v Speaker 1>a few slaves joined his revolt. Those of Brown's men

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<v Speaker 1>who had not fled were killed or captured by local

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<v Speaker 1>militia and US marines, the latter led by Robert E. Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown was tried for treason against the Commonwealth of Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>the murder of five men, and inciting a slave insurrection.

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<v Speaker 1>He was found guilty of all charges and was hanged

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<v Speaker 1>on December second, eighteen fifty nine, the first person executed

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<v Speaker 1>for treason in the history of the United States. That feels, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't man. If heaven exists and I go there,

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<v Speaker 1>I better see this guy. The Harper's Ferry raid and

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's trial, both covered extensively in national newspapers, escalated tensions

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<v Speaker 1>that led a year later to the South's long threatening

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<v Speaker 1>secession in the American Civil War. Southerners feared that others

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<v Speaker 1>would soon follow in Brown's footsteps, encouraging an arming slave rebellions.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a hero and an icon in the North.

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<v Speaker 1>Union soldiers marched to the new song John Brown's body

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<v Speaker 1>that portrayed him as a heroic martyr. Brown has been

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<v Speaker 1>variously described as a heroic martyr and visionary, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a madman and a terrorist. Brown was well read and

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<v Speaker 1>knew that the last words of a prominent person would

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<v Speaker 1>be valued. On the morning of December second, eighteen fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Brown wrote and gave to his jailor ABIs the words

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to be remembered by. I John Brown am

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<v Speaker 1>now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land

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<v Speaker 1>will never be purged away, but with blood I had,

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<v Speaker 1>as I now think vainly flattered myself that without very

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<v Speaker 1>much bloodshed, it might be done. Now you may wonder

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<v Speaker 1>why we decided to honor John Brown with our way

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<v Speaker 1>Black history fact, and it's because of a post that

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<v Speaker 1>Q sent over to me from Sean King, a person

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<v Speaker 1>on social media who's very involved with politics but also

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<v Speaker 1>with furthering a decidedly black agenda in this country, forward

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<v Speaker 1>equality and equity. Shaan King wrote, excuse me, Happy birthday

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<v Speaker 1>to John Brown again. He was born on May nine,

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<v Speaker 1>so at the time it was his birthday. Happy birthday

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<v Speaker 1>to John Brown, the best white man America has ever produced,

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<v Speaker 1>He says, I always laughed when our dear brother Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>X said John Brown was his favorite white man in

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<v Speaker 1>American history. But he was right a full two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty three years ago, in the year eighteen hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>John Brown was born, and in the two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three years since, I don't think that a single

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<v Speaker 1>white man in all of American history has had his

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<v Speaker 1>courage and tenacity at confronting the sins of slavery and

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<v Speaker 1>racial injustice in this place. A whole lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>talk it, he lived it. Now. I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that I say this, This in no way diminishes

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<v Speaker 1>the value of allies, certainly not white men allies, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's relatively speaking, a rarity in the space of those

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<v Speaker 1>of us who really see each other as brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>sisters and want to push toward a more equitable America.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to bear in mind that no matter

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<v Speaker 1>which ally you're looking at now, you cannot hold them

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<v Speaker 1>to the same standard as a John Brown, who lived

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<v Speaker 1>in a country where slavery was the law and fought

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<v Speaker 1>actively against that, and we're speaking against it was treason, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>punishable by death, which he suffered. So until such a

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<v Speaker 1>time as we as a country are have devolved back

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<v Speaker 1>to that point and a person gives their life for

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<v Speaker 1>that cause. We're a little further along with slavery man,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not as far along as we pretend to be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair, I'll that's fair, But I mean in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of in terms of folks who might think that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a condemnation of white male allies, it is not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just celebration of this man in the time that

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<v Speaker 1>he lived, giving his life for a cause that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need to. We know that, and so we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want people to compare him to anybody else who is

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<v Speaker 1>a white male. Ally, we love everybody. We think you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing great, but obviously he comes from a different time

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<v Speaker 1>where he can be celebrated in this way. So well,

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<v Speaker 1>that said, that's about it for us here on Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 2>In deduces just a TV show you're passing. And this

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<v Speaker 2>from a white wartime journalist headlines wait got pre peace

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