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Speaker 1: to a break, I told you we got an interesting

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Speaker 1: poll that came down. Now, I understand everybody out there

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Speaker 1: gets apprehensive about polls. There's anxiety that poles were wrong

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Speaker 1: in sixteen, they were wrong in twenty, they were wrong

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Speaker 1: in twenty two. It's been very hard to be entirely

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Speaker 1: reliant on poles. But here's what we do know in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Joe Biden won the state of Virginia by

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Speaker 1: ten points over Donald Trump. In twenty twenty one, the

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Speaker 1: very next year, Glen young Can flipped the governor's mansion

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Speaker 1: in Virginia from Democrat to Republican and flipped in a

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Speaker 1: big way the Commonwealth of Virginia. Now, there is a

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Speaker 1: poll this is from Roanoke University that is out that

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Speaker 1: has some really interesting data points. In particular, there have

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Speaker 1: been rumors that Glenn young Can is going to throw

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Speaker 1: his name into the mix as a presidential candidate. Some

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Speaker 1: of you may say, well, wait a minute, he's only

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Speaker 1: been governor for a couple of years. Yes, but Virginia

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Speaker 1: a little bit different than other places where Glen young

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Speaker 1: a governor for eight years. Glenn young Can, because of

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Speaker 1: one term, and he's been a very successful governor. He

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Speaker 1: has a wildly favorable rating in the state of Virginia.

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Speaker 1: This is from again Rowanoke College. It was done over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, and these numbers really jump

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Speaker 1: out at you. So, first of all, if Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is the nominee as we expect and Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: the nominee for Republicans, according to this poll, Biden would

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Speaker 1: only have a one point lead over Trump, very ominous.

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Speaker 1: Because Biden won Virginia by ten points. This suggests that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is very weak in the state of Virginia.

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Speaker 1: In general, Ron de Santis, according to this poll, would

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Speaker 1: beat Joe Biden by five points. If Joe Biden doesn't

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Speaker 1: win Virginia, this is gonna be a landslide election for Republicans.

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Speaker 1: All of you should be aware of that. But here

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Speaker 1: is the number that is staggering. Glenn Junkin, if he

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Speaker 1: is the nominee for president. According to this poll, he

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Speaker 1: would beat Joe Biden fifty five to thirty nine, beat

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Speaker 1: him by sixteen points. That would represent a twenty six

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Speaker 1: when you see this numbers and you saw him, you

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Speaker 1: and I were talking about an off air again. Roanoke

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Speaker 1: College has Glenn Yunkin beating Joe Biden by sixteen points

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Speaker 1: in Virginia at a minimum. To me, This raises the hey,

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Speaker 1: Glenn Junkin should be at the very top of the

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Speaker 1: list for vice president potential nominees, but also should we

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Speaker 1: be talking about Junkin as a potential presidential choice? Just

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Speaker 1: if he wins Virginia, he's gonna win the presidency. Could

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Speaker 1: he deliver the state of Virginia based on these numbers?

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Speaker 1: It would even be close. You know, I think you

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Speaker 1: should evaluate vice presidents through the lens of first and

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Speaker 1: foremost office. Is this person a reasonable chance, a reasonable

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Speaker 1: choice for the presidents? Hard beat away it? Right? They're

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Speaker 1: a harpyway. That's step one. But step two from an

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Speaker 1: You know, generally vice presidents get talked about a lot

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Speaker 1: by the media and don't really make all that much difference.

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Speaker 1: But I think in part it's because Republicans. Republicans approach it,

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Speaker 1: way Democrats approach their vice presidential picks, which is this

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Speaker 1: is an op This is an opportunity for diversity and inclusion.

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Speaker 1: at the ballot box for diversity, just everyone needs that. Never,

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Speaker 1: And I also think that Glen Younkins has shown a

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Speaker 1: gonna be the governor of Texas. He's not. He's not

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Speaker 1: somebody who has a red state mandate. But what he's

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Speaker 1: essentially a blue state, certainly by registration advantage. Democrats have

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Speaker 1: is what Glenn Junkin has done, you know, in a way.

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Speaker 1: I mean Florida, yes, Desantists has had a bigger swing,

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Speaker 1: bigger numbers, it's more you know, it's obviously it's a

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Speaker 1: reelection results. But I think that it has been a

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Speaker 1: it's a closer. It has been a closer contest in

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Speaker 1: I mean, Virginia has been pretty reliably Democrat. And Junkin

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Speaker 1: was good on masks. Junkin was good on school the

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Speaker 1: important in that process as well. And I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guys, he's slick, he's smart, he ran

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Speaker 1: the Carlisle group. Jo. I think he's gonna be president. No,

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a future in politics in America. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: even beyond being governor. Here's what I would impress upon

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Speaker 1: not sure in Arizona. Does Doug Doocey do that. He's

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Speaker 1: Are any of those guys capable of putting their state

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Speaker 1: and I'm the nominee in twenty four, I'm putting Glen

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Speaker 1: Yunkin on the ticket if I think he can deliver Virginia,

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Speaker 1: because one, it forces Biden to have to expand the battleground.

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Speaker 1: If Democrats are scrambling to try to win Virginia, it's

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Speaker 1: a very good sign in other close states, but Virginia

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Speaker 1: state of Virginia, this race is over. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: very early, but haven't run you know, polls have been wrong.

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Speaker 1: De Santists or anybody else, right, I mean, there's there's

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Speaker 1: worse than Trump's Hitler, which is a tough angle to

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Speaker 1: But they've they've been trying to tell people that the

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty in the Republican presidential primary, attacking the Scantis,

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Speaker 1: to the point we've made on this show, the advantage

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Speaker 1: they have shown no scruples when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: what three month gap between John Fetterman? Is fine? Shut

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Speaker 1: so what, he's in a mental hospital. Respect his privacy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he'll come out in a few months. They act

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Speaker 1: to be a heavy burden a proof obviously beyond a

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Speaker 1: reasonable doubt on that. But Clay, this guy is just

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Speaker 1: supposed to live in Tucson or Tucson sector or the border.

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Speaker 1: I should say, as though this is you know, this

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Speaker 1: is the reality, people are just going to trespass. People

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Speaker 1: are going to be moving drugs with gone through your property,

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Speaker 1: and you have to hope that they don't worry that

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Speaker 1: you're going to call border patrol so they decide to

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Speaker 1: take you out. You have to just trust that that

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Speaker 1: anybody associate with the associated with the cartels doesn't get

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Speaker 1: a little scared of you maybe calling the police on them,

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Speaker 1: and decide that you're too much of a risk. This

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Speaker 1: is what it means to live along the border these days.

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Speaker 1: And does a Biden administration care at all as an

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Speaker 1: urgent threat. We can't even get Joe Biden to go

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Speaker 1: to the border. I would hope that the jury that

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Speaker 1: he would have in that community would be very disposed

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Speaker 1: towards him, right. Wouldn't you think in general that a

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Speaker 1: jury would look at a seventy three year old guy

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Speaker 1: who's been dealing with, if what you just described cartel

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Speaker 1: smuggling across his property for years, that he didn't just

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Speaker 1: suddenly snap that he has been threatened and feels the

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Speaker 1: need to protect himself. I would think this would be

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Speaker 1: a very difficult because, again, the jurors in this community

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Speaker 1: would be well aware of what illegal immigration is doing

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Speaker 1: all along that area, and I would think they would

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Speaker 1: be very predisposed to be in favor of this man.

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Speaker 1: But your point is a good one, which is much

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Speaker 1: of what the government decides to do when it comes

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Speaker 1: to prosecuting people is about sending messages about what they

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Speaker 1: care more than focusing on justice itself. Right. That's how

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Speaker 1: they've ended up trying to put a guy in jail

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Speaker 1: for years because he shoves somebody at an abortion protest

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Speaker 1: when they're totally ignoring actual violent crime from serial offenders.

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Speaker 1: Again the facts, Remember, the eyewitness testimony involves the people

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Speaker 1: who are illegally entering America on his property, allegedly ties

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Speaker 1: to smuggling in the cartels, or at least the one

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Speaker 1: individual is a you know, this has not proven in

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Speaker 1: court yet, but these are where the allegations are certainly

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Speaker 1: crossing into his property illegally. Kelly called the US Border

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Speaker 1: Patrol Ranch liaison five times on the day of the incident. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: so you're you're the one who's flagging law enforcement down.

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Speaker 1: You're just an any shot, I believe from one hundred

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Speaker 1: yards or from one hundred yards away, you're going to

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Speaker 1: just you know, the whole thing. There's something that we

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Speaker 1: need to find out more of exactly what happened here

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Speaker 1: because he called in to say he was being shot

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Speaker 1: at and had to shoot back. Yeah, so I mean, yes,

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Speaker 1: they can. They're obviously claiming that he's lying and that's

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Speaker 1: why they're charging him with murder. But I just think

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Speaker 1: that this is a case you have to watch because

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Speaker 1: this high level, uh there's high level politics involved in

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Speaker 1: something like this. I think it's gonna be hard to

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Speaker 1: get a jury to convict there, I do. But we'll

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Speaker 1: keep you updated on this story. Speaking of jury to convict,

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Speaker 1: we're soon going to have the Murdock jury that is

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Speaker 1: going to be out. We'll see how long they're out

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Speaker 1: before they make their decision about guilt or innocence in

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Speaker 1: that case that has captivated so much of the country.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, data breach is embarrassing for companies they

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Speaker 1: if not millions of you out there with your information

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Speaker 1: finds the way into their computer system, steals all that data.

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Speaker 1: You never know when it's going to happen or that

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Speaker 1: it even might have happened. Sometimes it's a silent crime.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss a day of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Welcome back at Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: You know Bucket out kick One of our good writers,

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Speaker 1: Joe Kenzie does a Woke back at Bracket Challenge every March.

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00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: Obviously NCUBA tournament season coming up in earnest, a lot

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00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: of you out there be filling out your own brackets

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Speaker 1: at work, in your families and everything else. And last

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Speaker 1: year's winner of the Woke Bracket Challenge was Keith Olberman,

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00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of you will remember Keith Olberman initially

519
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: was a SportsCenter anchor, and then he moved over to

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Speaker 1: MSNBC and he was msn BCS like straw that starts

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Speaker 1: to drink. He was the primary employee at the MSNBC

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Speaker 1: on Countdown for some time. Right he was the tent pole.

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Speaker 1: He was the mentor of Rachel Nada, which, now that

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Speaker 1: she's making thirty million dollars a year, to show up

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Speaker 1: twice a month or whatever is pretty remarkable when you

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Speaker 1: think about it. I just Clay, If I ask you,

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Speaker 1: what is the best thing that Ben Affleck has ever

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Speaker 1: done professionally, what comes to mind for you? Like right away,

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Speaker 1: what's the best thing? Goodwill Hunting? Probably see okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: that's of the movies that's certainly on the list. Have

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Speaker 1: you seen his SNL impression of Keith Olberman? Is it

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Speaker 1: really kidding me. Okay, we have to get some of

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Speaker 1: this audio. Those of you who know out there, you

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Speaker 1: know he's talking about his cat and miss Precious Perfect

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Speaker 1: and the condo board, not I mean, is amazing. And

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Speaker 1: it was on SNL and it was Ben Affleck pretending

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Speaker 1: to be Keith Olberman throwing a hissy fit on TV

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Speaker 1: with his pseudo Shakespearean prose, and it is amazing. So

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Speaker 1: I mean, I used to wake up every morning and

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Speaker 1: as I was eating breakfast getting ready to go to school,

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Speaker 1: I would put on Sports Center with Keith Olberman and

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick, and those guys were probably the most iconic

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Speaker 1: duo to ever do a sports program. And Dan Patrick

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00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: obviously still does radio. He's had a very successful sports career.

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Speaker 1: Totally normal guy. Olberman has never gotten married. He is,

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Speaker 1: he lives somewhere in New York City. He's obviously very wealthy,

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Speaker 1: but he's isolated, and he's on Twitter all the time,

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Speaker 1: and he'll come after you or me randomly, right buck,

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00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: Although it's harder to find people coming after you randomly

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Speaker 1: now on Twitter the way it's constructed. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've noticed that, Like I barely see any like

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Speaker 1: real arguments or hate in general. But Keith Olberman tweeted

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Speaker 1: this yesterday, this isn't difficult about the Rhonda Santis and

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Speaker 1: Walt disney World battle down in Florida. This isn't difficult.

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Speaker 1: Move all the irreplaceable items out of the current Disney

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Speaker 1: World rebuild in the Carolinas or Puerto Rico. Then invite

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Speaker 1: Rohn de Santis to Disney's Orlando facility and burn the

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Speaker 1: place down while he watches all Right, have you been

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Speaker 1: to disney World? Buck? I think I went when I

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Speaker 1: was four or five. I don't have no me. My

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Speaker 1: family we went to Disney all the time. We would

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Speaker 1: camp at the Fort Wilderness camp grounds, like in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. That was what my parents did with us

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Speaker 1: on vacation. We would go to disney World. I have

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Speaker 1: been there many times. Disney World. This is I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: that Keith Olberman has never been there, because if you

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Speaker 1: have ever been to disney World, the idea that you

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Speaker 1: could just pick up disney World and relocate it somewhere

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Speaker 1: is akin to saying, why don't we just move New

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Speaker 1: York City to Idaho. It's it's like totally inconceivable that

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Speaker 1: such a thing could happen, the idea that you would

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Speaker 1: move it to Puerto Rico, where no one can get to,

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Speaker 1: or that you would go to the Carolinas where the

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Speaker 1: weather's not good and you can't be open year round.

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Speaker 1: This is to me emblematic of what happens if you

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Speaker 1: allowed the woke virus to so take over your brain

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Speaker 1: that you lose the ability to engage in in rational thought.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know that you had when I was out,

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Speaker 1: you had Josh Holly on Senator Holly to talk about

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Speaker 1: banning social media use for kids under sixteen. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know about whether the government should necessarily mandate that,

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Speaker 1: but I do think increasingly that's a that's a good

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Speaker 1: thing because of them the mental health challenges that it create,

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Speaker 1: or the mental health pathways, the ways that affects the psychological,

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Speaker 1: psychological day to day of kids. But also there's been

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Speaker 1: some studies out play increasingly the show, and this is

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Speaker 1: by self reporting, and it's among adolescents who haven't yet

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Speaker 1: reached the point where they wouldn't tell you the truth

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Speaker 1: because they don't want it to be associated with their politics.

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Speaker 1: The more left wing you are, the more miserable you are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's actual data to back this up. Now. Mattie Iglaciers,

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Speaker 1: who's a left wing writer, shared this in his sub

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Speaker 1: stack recently that a bunch of left wing academics got

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Speaker 1: together and their whole thing was, why is it that

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Speaker 1: among adolescents the most miserable cohort when you look at

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Speaker 1: and it was all the way from very conservative, conservative,

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Speaker 1: moderate liberal, very liberal male female. I think the ages

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Speaker 1: were sixteen to eighteen something like that, and overwhelmingly, guess what,

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Speaker 1: very liberal females are the most miserable people when you

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Speaker 1: control for socioeconomic background, race, everything. The more far left are,

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Speaker 1: the more miserable you are. And I think that that's

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Speaker 1: something that we all I see it in my life.

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Speaker 1: I know that, you know, far left anchor is making

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars to try to laugh at this idea,

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Speaker 1: but I think if you actually look at them, they

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Speaker 1: are leading generally miserable lives. I think there's something really

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Speaker 1: to this because of the victimization the way of looking

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Speaker 1: at the world. It's all about oppression and power and

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Speaker 1: balance and racism and sexism, and that's got to be

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Speaker 1: exhausting after a while. Yeah, and Buck, I know we

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Speaker 1: make fun of the fact that you're younger than me.

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Speaker 1: But I'm the forty three, you're forty one, Is that right?

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Speaker 1: I'm about to be forty four next month, so we're

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Speaker 1: about three years apart. I do feel like, and I

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Speaker 1: understand people of different ages have different ideas about what

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Speaker 1: their generation represents. I feel like people around your end

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Speaker 1: mind's age have a healthier relationship with social media. And

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Speaker 1: I'm curious if you would buy this thesis because we

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Speaker 1: mostly grew up without the internet in nineteen eighties nineteen

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Speaker 1: nineties kids, and then the internet comes into your life,

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Speaker 1: but it comes in when you've already kind of established

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Speaker 1: yourself in some way what is normal, and you're not

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Speaker 1: so old that you have no idea how the internet works,

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Speaker 1: right like that, you're just totally flummuxed and flustered by it,

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Speaker 1: but you're old enough that you have a sense of

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Speaker 1: what is real and what is not real. And what

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Speaker 1: I worry about now for my own kids is they

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Speaker 1: are so immersed in the social media universe in sort

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Speaker 1: of that AI generated artificiality, that I worry it distorts

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Speaker 1: their ability to understand the difference between the physical and

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Speaker 1: the you know, sort of ephemeral on the Internet, and

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Speaker 1: that is why I think there's so much mental illness,

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Speaker 1: which is directly what we talked about. I think one

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Speaker 1: day when you were out, I opened up the show

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Speaker 1: talking about the fact that I've believe the data is

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Speaker 1: buck thirty percent of teenage girls had the last year

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Speaker 1: have thought about killing themselves. Thirty percent, well, nearly one

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Speaker 1: in every three teenage girls has thought I wish I'm

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Speaker 1: interested in killing myself. I mean, that is a that

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Speaker 1: is a profound societal sickness. Yes, there's something deeply wrong.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this and I wanted this. This is

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Speaker 1: from Science Direct. It is in a peer published on

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Speaker 1: a peer reviewed journal, the Politics of Depression. This was

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Speaker 1: just published in December of twenty twenty two, so recently,

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Speaker 1: The Politics of Depression diverging trends in internalizing symptoms among

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Speaker 1: US adolescents by political beliefs written by a bunch of

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Speaker 1: presumably left wing academics, and they're what they're saying is, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think we need to figure out something here, because

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Speaker 1: even if you switch the genders around, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the most the most unhappy people in the sixteen to

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Speaker 1: eighteen age group, of course, and this is a thousand,

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Speaker 1: thousands of people that this all this self reporting that

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Speaker 1: they in this study are very liberal females. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: conservative females are happier than very liberal or liberal males. Right,

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Speaker 1: So even when you change it by gender, there is

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Speaker 1: something in the political belief system of the left put

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Speaker 1: us put us on what we always talk about, which

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Speaker 1: is their ideas don't work. It makes everybody less safe,

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Speaker 1: it makes everybody more poor, It made all these things.

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Speaker 1: It makes people miserable. And I really see this. I

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Speaker 1: see this from I mean, you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to get too crazy here,

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Speaker 1: but you know, you look at so many the people

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Speaker 1: that we work with and know on the right who

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Speaker 1: are in this media game, and they're really nice people.

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Speaker 1: They really care about their families, they really try to

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Speaker 1: hold it all together, you know they Now, look, these

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Speaker 1: are huge generalizations. I don't know, people can try to

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Speaker 1: pick them apart. The people that I see on the

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Speaker 1: left who are on the absolute vanguard of their ideological

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Speaker 1: system are generally miserable people. That's just what I see.

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Speaker 1: I think. And this is such a big discussion. We

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Speaker 1: could probably open up phone lines on this especially, and

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Speaker 1: is moving to the second hour, but to close out

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Speaker 1: this first hour, I think one of the biggest challenges

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Speaker 1: I'm saying this as a man, so I could be

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Speaker 1: completely wrong. In fact, I only want female callers to

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Speaker 1: react to this. Eight hundred two eight two two eight

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Speaker 1: eight two. This could be you might think I'm crazy

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Speaker 1: on this. I think the reason why liberal women are

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Speaker 1: so unhappy is because they are being sold on the

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Speaker 1: idea that they can have everything. This girl, boss, I'm

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Speaker 1: And the reality is women who are making decisions and

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Speaker 1: saying like, hey, I want to have a family and

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Speaker 1: I want to get married, I want to go to college,

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Speaker 1: I want to have a career, but I also want

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Speaker 1: to have a family. At some point, the frustration on

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Speaker 1: the far left becomes I was told that I could

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Speaker 1: have everything. That's what they told me. I can have everything.

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Speaker 1: And the balancing Act to require you to be able

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Speaker 1: to accom publish everything as a woman is different than

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Speaker 1: you or me. Buck, Like, you just got married at

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Speaker 1: forty one. How much time did you spend thinking I've

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Speaker 1: got to get married, right, now if I want to

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Speaker 1: have kids, probably not very much. Nope. And I mean

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Speaker 1: I would even say I would add to I think

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Speaker 1: what you're saying is absolutely true. I think that young

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Speaker 1: women across America need to hear this and need to

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Speaker 1: know this. I think the conservative young women do know this,

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Speaker 1: which is why they have higher levels of happiness. They

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Speaker 1: do understand. But I also think that they're being told.

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Speaker 1: I saw this so much in New York City, you know,

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Speaker 1: even Clay you would. I mean, I know you went

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Speaker 1: But in Tennessee, I think you probably have more traditional

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Speaker 1: gender roles culturally, you know, than you would in New

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Speaker 1: York City. Certainly in Manhattan, women are being told to

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Speaker 1: compete as men in a lot of capacities, not just

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Speaker 1: in the workplace now, but in general, to live their

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Speaker 1: this is you know, we're taking on a big one today.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta say, this is what I see, and

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Speaker 1: we're two guys describing as we see it. The data

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Speaker 1: reflects what you are saying. Why are women so much

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Speaker 1: liberal women so unhappy? What do you think? What do

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Speaker 1: women think about this? And why it's occurring? And why

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Speaker 1: This is occurring conservative women? And who are talking about

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Speaker 1: younger people? Now, let's say eighteen year olds. Conservative women

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Speaker 1: the first hour that Keith Olberman's suggestion for Ronda santism

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Speaker 1: when when Keith is not starting Twitter feuds with Clay

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Speaker 1: pretty funny. I don't know where the you know anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's what he says, that's what he writes at me.

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Speaker 1: But he was the biggest name at MSNBC for a

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Speaker 1: long time. He was the biggest name the host tent pole.

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Speaker 1: And here he is put through the prism of Ben

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Speaker 1: Affleck discussing how when his cat, Miss Precious Perfect was

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Speaker 1: in Manhattan, that that was about as bad as the

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Speaker 1: bombing of Pearl Harbor or something along those lines. Clay,

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Speaker 1: you've never heard it. Here's just a little, a little

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Speaker 1: reminder of Ben Affleck as Keith Olberman on sl The

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Speaker 1: letter was brief and to the point, Dear mister Alderman

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Speaker 1: that read, the co Op Board, having reviewed your request

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Speaker 1: co Op President. And there was all perfectly legal, Like

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Speaker 1: the nineteen forty two internament more than one hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: justice of our nation's Jim Crow laws. It was all

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Speaker 1: perfectly legal and every bit as wrong, if not indeed

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Speaker 1: more so. You get very well done. It's pretty pretty

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Speaker 1: good impression of him for back in the day. I

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Speaker 1: can't get over how funny the idea is. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that Keith Olberman has never been to Disney World. If

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Speaker 1: you have ever been to disney World, and if you're

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Speaker 1: if you missed earlier. Olberman said that because Rhand de

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Speaker 1: Santis has been feuding with disney World and has this

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Speaker 1: new board that is designed to govern, that Disney World

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Speaker 1: should leave for Orda, which is again impossible. By the

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Speaker 1: analogy I made. Buck is like saying New York City

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Speaker 1: should move to Idaho, like you just can't do it.

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Speaker 1: But then the rest of Disney World should all be

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Speaker 1: burned down while Ron de Santis is made to go

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Speaker 1: watch it. Disney World is so huge, the idea, I

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Speaker 1: don't even understand how you could come up with the

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Speaker 1: idea of just move it right. It is such a

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Speaker 1: monstrosity and all of the buildings that are involved in

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Speaker 1: everything else. This was why Ron de santists could go

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Speaker 1: toe to toe with Disney because the investment in material,

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Speaker 1: the investment in cost, I mean, I don't know Disney

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Speaker 1: has to have I would think a billion dollars. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's crazy. A billion dollars just in building

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Speaker 1: fees at a minimum. Not to mention that whatever the

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Speaker 1: valuation of the disney World theme park is now, the

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Speaker 1: idea that you would just pick it up and move

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Speaker 1: it to Puerto Rico, which is funny because nobody can

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Speaker 1: get to Puerto Rico. The great success of Disney World

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Speaker 1: was it's open three hundred and sixty five days a year,

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Speaker 1: and it was selected because the weather is great, but

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Speaker 1: also because theoretically so many people can get to Florida.

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Speaker 1: It's mind insane. It's insanity. You know. This is as

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Speaker 1: silly an idea as if someone were to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: maybe we can save the city of Portland by moving

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Speaker 1: it from Oregon to Texas or something. It'd be hard

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Speaker 1: to move a whole city, but you got to figure

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Speaker 1: out something right now. This was also just in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours up on the Daily Mail. Business

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Speaker 1: owners are fleeing Portland in droves amid pronounced rise in

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Speaker 1: crime and homelessness, and public data shows that twenty six

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Speaker 1: hundred businesses in the downtown have left Portland in Townland.

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Speaker 1: Portland's not that big of a city. So for two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six hundred businesses to just be like, we're out,

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Speaker 1: we're not doing this anymore, that's a lot. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of shuttered storefronts. And I just think that what

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about with the Chicago look moving in

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Speaker 1: the right direction. Chicago is moving in the right direction

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Speaker 1: now with now how much maybe it's only one or

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Speaker 1: two steps, but getting rid of Lory Lyfoot, who was

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Speaker 1: an obviously horrific mayor. The mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's still the mayor. He might

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Speaker 1: be gone now I got a check. He certainly was

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Speaker 1: one of the worst mayors. He was somebody who was

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Speaker 1: sucking up to Antifa and then went out, did you

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Speaker 1: ever see this? And he went out to be like,

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Speaker 1: I stand with you Antifa, and they just started cursing

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Speaker 1: at him and screaming at him. And you're a sellout

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Speaker 1: and you're you know, you're the man and the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: and you know this is what is. It's not like

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Speaker 1: we just talked about this because we're in conservative media.

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Speaker 1: This is happening in places so while while the Libs

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Speaker 1: are all upset about Disney, which is fine and going

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Speaker 1: to be fine some great American cities. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think Portland's a beautiful place. I really got a great

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Speaker 1: audience in the Portland area. They know I love the

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Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest. But the Democrat policies are making it a

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Speaker 1: place people don't want to be. Good way to describe

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Speaker 1: the reaction to George Floyd. And I know this buck

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Speaker 1: because I've been going through all the numbers as part

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Speaker 1: of my new book that's going to be out in September.

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Speaker 1: Portland from two thousand to two nineteen had an average

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Speaker 1: of twenty one murders a year. After the George Floyd

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Speaker 1: protests and the violence, in twenty twenty one, I believe

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Speaker 1: they went over eighty murders. Just think about how crazy

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Speaker 1: that is for a city like Portland. Again, I just

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Speaker 1: gave you almost a generation worth of murder data. Around

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Speaker 1: twenty one people a year would be murdered in Portland

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Speaker 1: in the wake of the George Floyd murders. They went

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Speaker 1: over eighty, right, And by the way, it's because the

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Speaker 1: people who were protesting decided, as we all know, that

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Speaker 1: cops are evil. But Portland had almost no crime at

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Speaker 1: the time, and then they totally have fallen apart. So

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Speaker 1: some of these white woke cities that have allowed the

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Speaker 1: white woke class to effectively take over. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's the percentage of white residents of Portland. I bet

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Speaker 1: it's eighty five percent, right, it's not a particularly diverse community,

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Speaker 1: and yet they allowed this George Floyd incident to so

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Speaker 1: take over their city that it destroyed the essence of

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Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful places in America. On the

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Speaker 1: case of Portland, you had overwhelmingly white Antifa yep, trying

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Speaker 1: to burn down a federal courthouse, but just in general

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Speaker 1: create anarchy and destruction in the downtown and to create

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Speaker 1: the political lack of will for doing anything about this. Right,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we don't want to, We don't want to

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Speaker 1: crack down on them, which then results in the police

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Speaker 1: backing off. And who in general and who suffers the

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Speaker 1: most in American cities when police are unable to protect

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Speaker 1: their communities high crime neighborhoods, which are disproportionately minority majority neighborhoods.

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Speaker 1: So when you actually look at at who suffers as

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Speaker 1: a result of the whether it's the BLM narrative in

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Speaker 1: Portland or across the country, the data speaks very clearly

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Speaker 1: on this. And I just I remember going to Portland

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Speaker 1: and thinking, this place is so cool and pretty and

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Speaker 1: have such great food. But this was back in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and ten, was when I was last time I visited,

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Speaker 1: and I remember also though, seeing already in the downtown

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Speaker 1: you started to just have that people camping out people.

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Speaker 1: There was this whole attitude of we're going to take

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Speaker 1: this approach of let people do drugs, and let people

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Speaker 1: sleep in the streets and live in the streets and

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Speaker 1: sell drugs and all this stuff, and it all just builds,

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Speaker 1: It all just cascades and gets worse. And this is

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Speaker 1: what we've seen now, and places really suffer once the

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Speaker 1: businesses of left Clay that now now you're already behind.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's you're trying to rebuild, You're not trying

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Speaker 1: to just get things to normal. And buckets double barreled too.

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Speaker 1: It's not only the rise of homeless populations in many

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Speaker 1: of these cities, it's also that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: aren't going back to office buildings. You walk around a

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Speaker 1: lot of American cities now and remote work has taken

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Speaker 1: over to such an extent, particularly in cities where people

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Speaker 1: had long commutes in the first place. New York City,

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Speaker 1: buck I think is only back to fifty percent occupancy

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Speaker 1: for many of the big buildings. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: aren't going in. Basically, Monday and Friday are no goes

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Speaker 1: for many people. They might go in Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but people are not making that trip into the office anymore.

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Speaker 1: This is a big deal. I was just up at

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Speaker 1: Fox News in New York City, shows and doing some

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Speaker 1: events up there. It's wild to see how few people

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Speaker 1: there are walking around on the streets in the middle

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Speaker 1: part of the day when you used to see every

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Speaker 1: store pack Basically, while the administration right now considers declaring

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Speaker 1: a public health emergency on abortion, it only leaves unborn

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