1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: The most valuable commandity I know of is information. Wouldn't 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: you agree? You great? 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: One five dollars. This is a road in a let 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: having a table ship. One may. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Humans need fantasy to be human. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: My goodness, that was good. You guys are prone, bets, relentless, 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: refusing to give up. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn babeles there. Hello, and welcome 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: to the Fantasy Flex podcast, presented by Prize Picks. I'm 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: your host, Samantha Parbati. On today's episode, I am elated 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: to be joined by the one and only Chris Towers, 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Fantasy analysts at CBS Fantasy, who you can find on 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Twitter at Sea Towers, CBS. Welcome to the Fantasy Flex. Chris, 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: how was your week three? 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: It was okay? Three weeks in, only fifteen more to go. 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: I've reached the point now. I know Scott Fish has 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: talked about this a lot. I don't really look at 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: my scores during games anymore because I just like, I 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: just want to watch the games, and I take my 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: notes and all that stuff. Want to be able to 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: watch them without like trying having to live and die 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: with each play. 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, I totally totally get that. Yeah, people ask 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: me like are you winning? Are you losing? And I'm like, 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I usually don't check until maybe like the games are 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: not playing anymore. Like I may check be on Monday 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: before the Monday night game to see like kind of 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: Monday night miracles I might need. But yeah, it's too 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: much stress to like pay attention to my phone because 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: also I'm just getting pings constantly from Yahoo or like 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: whatever sight you're on, like telling me there's a touchdown 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I'm also playing against them in 34 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: another least. 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: And then once the actual playoffs come, I do follow it. Yeah, Like, 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: and I just I'm a wreck. I'm just completely useless 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: the entire day I'm living and die. I can't. I 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: can't do that for eighteen weeks. I could do it 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: for two, maybe three weeks, but my my, my mental 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: state is too fragile to try to do that every week. 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: Well all right, let let's just hop right in because 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: that kind of brings us into our first question. First 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: couple questions, rather, what year did you start playing Fantasy? 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: And did you in your first league? 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: I believe the first I'm in a league that's been 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: running I think since two thousand or two thousand and one, 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: so I think that's the when I started. I may 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: have played a couple of free leagues, but this is 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: one that my dad was in with his with our 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: close family friends. My dad joined. He was like, hey, Chris, 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: you want to play, and I kind of just ran 52 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: the team. He's not really a sports guy, So yeah, 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: I think two thousand. I didn't win for the first 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: time until two thousand and six in that league, and 55 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: then I didn't win again until twenty twenty. So you know, 56 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: that's you always have that there's always like one league 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: or in my case too, that no matter how good 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: your team is, you just can't seem to actually win 59 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: the championships. Second longest running league, I've never won it, 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: and that one's going back to two thousand and eight, 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: I think. 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, once every decade, not too too bad. 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: But you hope to be better than the average, but 64 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: I haven't managed to do it yet. 65 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. What are the best and worst parts about playing 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: fantasy football for you? 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: The best part is, you know, it's mostly a way 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: for me to keep in contact with friends. You know 69 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: that that's this group that we've been playing since two thousand. 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: I was the youngest person in the league, but like 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: I grew up with all those guys. They're all about 72 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: ten fifteen years older than me, and you know, like 73 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: I'm still friends with all of them. I see them, 74 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: you know, maybe once a year now because everybody lives 75 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: around the country. But it's it's a great way to 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: keep in touch my league with my college friends. You know, 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: are we have our college newspaper team that that's the 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: one we've been playing since like two thousand and eight 79 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: or two thousand and nine. That that might also be 80 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: the worst part is being commissioner of that specific league. 81 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: And I think just being commissioner in general, I get it. Yeah, 82 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: especially like if it's just a redra normal redraft league, 83 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: it's very easy. But even then you'll still get some drama. 84 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: We had a commissioner quit in the middle of the 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: season once. But that one with my college friends is 86 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: we've got so many rules and it's a bunch of 87 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: it's a there's only one lawyer in the league, but 88 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: everybody thinks they're a lawyer the way they try to 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: like find loopholes in the rule. And so we finally 90 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: decided this year that the commissioner myself, uh don't only 91 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: has to pay eighty percent of the league entry fees 92 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: because of what a what a disaster, So everybody else 93 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: has to pay like one point five percent extra just 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: for how difficult they all are. 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: That totally makes sense because it's so much time. I 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: actually have never been a commissioner, but I can only 97 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: imagine the time that is spent adjudicating silly matters, just because. 98 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: Like the there's always one guy in this league who's 99 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: just always trying to like find the one tiny little 100 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: loophole to get a small and it's like, man, we 101 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: have like four rules named after him. At this point, 102 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: we have a constitution and everything that. 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Is incredible, all right, and jumping into actual football stuff, 104 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: we are going to kick it off with a quick 105 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: segment called the burn Book, which is of course a 106 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: mean girl's reference. I know we don't have to tell 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: you that, but as fantasy managers, it is so easy 108 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: to have recency bias, especially if a player has burned us, 109 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: either due to injuries or a bad week. So we 110 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: are going to run through five players, and I'd like 111 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: you to briefly tell us how confident you are in 112 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: that player moving forward or if they are in your 113 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: burn book. So the first player is justin Fields. So 114 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: we were obviously talking about Fields is a potential top 115 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: twelve guy. I was literally waffling about it if I 116 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: should start Field or Stafford in one league, which obviously 117 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: I started Stafford and I feel good about that. But 118 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about him having that top twelve potential when 119 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: he had the opportunity to start tally just three point 120 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: nine two fantasy points in a pretty ugly start against 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: the Browns, which obviously not not even not what you want, 122 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: but certainly not all his fall I mean, that offensive 123 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: line left him so so exposed it was painful to watch, 124 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: like Miles Garrett and Justavin Clowney just absolutely feast on 125 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: that line. So but in the end, you know, that 126 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter whose fault it is in terms of 127 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: fantasy production. So it's one bad start enough to land 128 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: Fields in your burn book for now. 129 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: I mean, just to highlight how bad he was, I 130 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: started him in the two QB league where I also 131 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: had to start Taysom Hill, and Taysom Hill was my 132 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: highest scoring quarterback because he got in the end zone. 133 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: So I did not win this week. I'm not ready 134 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: to write him off. I mean, you look around the 135 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: league at the rookie quarterbacks, they've all struggled to varying degrees. 136 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: And by varying grees, I mean, they've all struggled a lot, really, 137 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: So I'm willing to give him some time to figure 138 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: things out. The problem is, I just don't have a 139 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: lot of confidence in the team around him, and specifically 140 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: Matt Nagge's off because the most success that that team 141 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: has ever had with Matt Naggy as the head coach 142 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: came in the middle part of the twenty eighteen season, 143 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: when Mitchell Trubisky really looked like he was taking a 144 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: step forward. A big part of that was, you know, 145 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: the fact that I think he had one hundred yard 146 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: rushing game, he had a couple of long runs. He 147 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: ended up rushing for like five hundred yards that season, 148 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: and he injured his shoulder like week ten to week twelve, 149 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: around that range, and he just kind of stopped running. 150 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: They stopped using him that way, and they never really 151 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: used him like that again consistently. When Mitchell Trubisky he 152 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: ran a forty yard dash at the same time as 153 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson like he's legitimately a very good athlete for 154 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: a quarterback, and Justin Fields is one of the best 155 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: athletes at the quarterback position that we've ever seen, and 156 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: they didn't do anything to take advantage of those skills. 157 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: So I just I don't know if it's just Matt 158 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: Naggie doesn't really believe in that as an offensive philosophy, 159 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: but this team's not going to work unless he buys 160 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: into that. So I'm stashing Fields. Hopefully he plays better 161 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: against the lines and then you can feel better about him. 162 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: But I'm optimistic pessimistic about the Bears in general right now. 163 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: I agree. I think Matt Maggie belongs to my burn 164 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: bug and not Justin Field. 165 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: Matt Naggy, not Alan Robinson, not David Montgomery, not Justin Fields, 166 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: all the guys who burned us last week. It's it's 167 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: Matt Maggie's fault, all right. 168 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: The next guy we're going to talk about is Marquise Brown. 169 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: So Brown came out of the gate hot, three huge 170 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: drops though in the first half of the game yesterday 171 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: definitely not what you want to see. Are you worried 172 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: about the drops moving forward? Worried about Hollywood being in 173 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: the doghouse with Harbaugh or do you think this is 174 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: kind of just a blip. 175 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: The only time I ever worry about drops is if 176 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: it seems like the team is going to worry about 177 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: the drops. And I don't really think that'll be the 178 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: case here, because one, they just don't have a lot 179 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: of options. You know, maybe Shot Bateman was healthy, I'd 180 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: be worried about that, but it sounds like Bateman's still 181 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: at least a few weeks away. So man, if Brown, 182 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: I mean, he dropped probably one hundred and fifty yards 183 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: and at least two, maybe three touchdowns worth of production yesterday, 184 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: which is terrible for Lamar Jackson. That's the reason the 185 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: Lions were able to stay in that game. And if 186 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: it wasn't for that, we'd be talking about Mark. He's 187 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: Brown in the same breath that we're talking about Mike 188 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: Williams as one of the true breakout candidates this season. 189 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: So I don't think drops really matter in terms of predictiveness. 190 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: So I'm totally willing to view Marquise Brown as a 191 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: top thirty wide receiver rest of season. 192 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: Right now, all right, fair enough, all right, the next 193 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: guy we're going to talk about is Julio Jones. So 194 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: he's had one good game so far but hasn't scored 195 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: a touchdown, finished with just six points in half PPR. 196 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: This week he gets the Jets and the Jaguars next, 197 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: so like you are starting him. I want to say, 198 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: the Jets have looked surprisingly good on defense, but not 199 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: good enough that you're sitting anyone like Julio. But is 200 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: Jones flirting with that burn book potential given what we've 201 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: grown to expect from him in the past, or do 202 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: you think that this whole Titans offense kind of turns 203 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: it around. 204 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: I'm such a Julio guy, Like I'm just I'm totally 205 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: in the tank for Julio. I will always believe he's 206 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: one of the best wide receivers of football. And I 207 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: don't know that the problem yesterday wasn't so much that 208 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: he wasn't good. He got four targets for forty seven 209 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: yards and he only played fifty percent of the snaps. 210 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: The prom is the fifty percent of the snaps and 211 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: why that happened. He didn't play a single snap in 212 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and after the game, Mike Rabel said 213 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: it was you know, he wasn't heard it was just 214 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: a load management thing. And then today he said, well 215 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: he tightened up. That's that seems more like an honest answer. 216 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: I don't think it's fully honest. I would guess that 217 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: Julio Jones is dealing with some kind of injury, and 218 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: that explains it. Mike Rabel just wants to play Koy, 219 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: So that's the bigger concern for me. I think this 220 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: passing game, Julio's too good, Ryan Tannehill's too good for 221 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: them not to figure it out. But I worry that 222 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: he's not healthy right now. So we'll see how this 223 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: week in practice goes. If Julio Jones is healthy, I 224 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: will be starting him, probably as a top fifteen to 225 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: twenty wide receiver. I just want to see him be okay. 226 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: And AJ Brown two, hopefully his hamstring's fine. 227 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: I was just going to say, with Brown's health kind 228 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: of also questionable. For sure, you got to think that 229 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: Julio's do for a good game here, especially with the 230 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: good matchups. So hopefully that is not indicative of the 231 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: rest of season. All Right, The next guy we're going 232 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: to talk about, actually, next two guys we're going to 233 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: talk about are just guys that it's painful to me 234 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: because I feel like I pumped them up a lot 235 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: in the preeason. So first guy, as Jonathan Taylor, has 236 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: not scored a touchdown yet, and this was a pretty 237 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: good matchup for him given where most people drafted JT. 238 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: You know in the first do you think he just 239 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: deserves to be in people's burn books right now? Or 240 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: do you think that he kind of turns it around. 241 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: This is one of those games where I just don't 242 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: know if you can take anything from it, because Carson 243 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: Wentz was so clearly limited. There were what three or 244 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: four different situations where he just literally threw the ball 245 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: in the ground rather than trying, rather than taking a 246 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: sack or trying to get away from pressure. The problem 247 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: is he was probably fifty sixty percent yesterday and he's 248 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: going to try to play through this moving forward, and 249 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's ever going to get fully healthy. 250 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: So I think you have to have questions about how 251 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: good this Colt's offense can be. In addition to the 252 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: fact that Quentin Nelson was carted off yesterday, I've had 253 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: offensive line issues. I am skeptical of the Jonathan Taylor 254 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: type of running back. I'm always lower than the consensus 255 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: on Derrick Henry, Nick Chubb, Jonathan Taylor even lower down. 256 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: You know, Damien Harris, guys like that, guys who just 257 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: don't really catch passes. And Taylor got six in the 258 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: first week. He only has four targets in the two 259 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: games since. And that's the concern for me, is that 260 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: he's two game script dependent to truly be an elite 261 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: fantasy running back, especially if Carson Wentz isn't going to 262 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: be one hundred percent in the blocking's not going to 263 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: be there. So I'm a little bit concerned, But more 264 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: I had him as a second round pick anyway, so 265 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: like I was taking Nagie Harris over him this season anyway, 266 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: So I'm probably my expectations are less. I'm less disappointed 267 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: in Jonathan Taylor so far than most people are, but 268 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: I think you still have to be him as a 269 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: must star fantasy running back moving forward. 270 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean it just it stinks as 271 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: a manager with him on a couple teams where you know, 272 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: you see Nike Pines out scoring him, and you don't 273 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: know if that's kind of like that's just how it's 274 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: going to be. Because the Colts offense is just kind 275 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: of a little dysfunctional right now. So yeah, I definitely 276 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: agree with you on that one. All right. The final 277 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: guy that we were going to talk about in our 278 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: burn book segment is cut Pits. So I don't know 279 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: where you stood on the Kyle Pitts spectrum, because this 280 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: is like a big thing in the fantasy Twitter committed community. 281 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, big yikes. He's going as high as you know, 282 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: tight end four in drafts hasn't finished higher than tight 283 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: end nine in any game this year? Were we totally wrong? 284 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean I say we because I don't even know 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: how you stood on this, but where we collectively wrong? Yeah? 286 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Were we collectively wrong about Pits in first year tight 287 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: ends performing even if they are generational talents. Does he 288 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: kind of belong in our burn books right now? Or 289 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: what is? Or do you think it's maybe more of 290 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: just a symptom of this Falcons offense. 291 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's a symptom of the Falcons offense. 292 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: Matt Ryan, I mean you see it with Calvin Ridley 293 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: where Matt Ryan. Calvin Ridley last year led the NFL 294 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: in air yards in fifteen games, and he had nearly 295 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: three hundred more than DK Metcalf who was second. Like 296 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: the they were so aggressive and targeting Calvin Ridley, and 297 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: it wasn't just because Julio Jones was there. There were 298 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: games when Julio Jones missed the Calvin Ridley they were 299 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: throwing just as much to him. So I don't know 300 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: if it's that, but Matt Ryan doesn't look good. The 301 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: offense doesn't look as aggressive. I think he has the 302 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: second lowest intended air yards per target this season. It's 303 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: like four point two yards Matt Ryan does, so I 304 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: think there's a problem with the offense. Kyle Pitts is 305 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: still running about seventy five percent of their routes, still 306 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: playing about seventy five to eighty percent of their snaps 307 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: every game. I think if the offense gets going, Kyle 308 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: Pitts will and as far as where I was on 309 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: him coming into the season. You know how, like when 310 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: you think of this is gonna be a weird analogy 311 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: to just stay with me. You know how, when you 312 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: think of like an atom, the image you have in 313 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: your head is just like one thing in the middle 314 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: and then a bunch of things orbiting it. The way 315 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: it actually works is a electrons aren't don't exist in 316 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: one place at any given time. They exist in a cloud, 317 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: and there's a probability of them existing in any one place, 318 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: but they can be in every place at once. It's 319 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: really weird, but quantum physics is weird. That's where I 320 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: was on Kyle Pits. I was I agreed with every 321 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: single take about Kyle Pitts. I agreed that you don't 322 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: want to target rookie tight ends. Rookie tight ends are 323 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: almost never good. Having Ingram was I believe the best 324 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: fantasy rookie tit end of all time, and he had 325 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: like seven hundred and fifty yards, So it's just generally 326 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: been a losing bat. On the other hand, if you're 327 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: gonna bet on an outlier, tight ends don't get drafted 328 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: number four overall. Tight ends don't produce like what he 329 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: did in eight games with the University of Florida last season. 330 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: It was like one hundred and ten yards per game, 331 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: twelve touchdowns. It was ridiculous productions. So yeah, I just 332 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: I could see every single angle of it, and I 333 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: agreed with all of them, and it was the kind 334 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: of situation where the most likely outcome was Kyle Pits 335 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: wasn't going to live up to his draft price, but 336 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: the chance of him hitting and hitting as high as 337 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: he could was too great to pass up and tire. 338 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: So in thirteen leagues, I think I haven't been I 339 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: didn't think he was going to have this kind of season, 340 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: but I knew he was capable of it, and you 341 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: need some exposure to that kind of player because that's 342 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: how you win fans. You win with the guys who 343 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 2: crush their value. So Pitts, I'm worried He's tight end 344 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: thirteen in PPR scoring despite being such a major disappointment, 345 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 2: because tight end remains a complete dumpster fire. And so 346 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: at the very least, I don't think there's any chance 347 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: you're going to pick up a tight end on waivers 348 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: at any point this season. Who I feel more confident 349 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: in than Kyle Pitts. Yeah, and I still think the 350 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: upside is absolutely there. The Falcons offense can figure things out. 351 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just I hope we're not talking about him 352 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: as the biggest fest of the year. Certainly, I do 353 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: get this together. And yes, I love that on this 354 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: podcast you went into quantum physics. That is that is incredibly. 355 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: That's really That's the one thing I know about quantum physics. 356 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: I love it. 357 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: Don't be too impressed. 358 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: No, that is a great analogy. It totally made sense 359 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: to me. Next up here on the Fantasy Flex Today 360 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: segment we call elite entries. Today, I am going to 361 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: look at three NFL Week four quarterback plays on prize picks. 362 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: The first play I like is Ryan Tannehill under two 363 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: hundred and forty five and a half passing yards on 364 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: the road against the Jets. So the Jets focal point 365 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: of this terrible, terrible season has been Zach Wilson and 366 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: the team's offensive line woes. You know, got a feel 367 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: for Macai Buckton and Zach Wilson's blind side. But let's 368 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: give credit where credit is due. The Jets defense has 369 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: actually looked pretty good, held opposing passers to two hundred 370 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: seventeen point three yards per game so far. They faced 371 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: the Titans this week, who Yeah, they have a good offense, 372 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: and they looked just okay against the Colts last week. 373 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: Tannehill completed eighteen of twenty seven for one hundred ninety 374 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: seven yards, three touchdowns and two interceptions. But with AJ 375 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: Brown's health in jeopardy, I think there's a good chance 376 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: that the team leans a little bit more on the 377 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: run game and Tannhill goes under the two hundred forty 378 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: five and a half passing yards. The next thing I 379 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: like is Jimmy Garoppolo over two hundred forty five and 380 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: a half passing yards at home against the Seahawks. So 381 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: this is a plush matchup for Garoppolo and the forty 382 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: nine ers against a porous Seattle secondary. He is coming 383 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: off of a much higher matchup on Sunday Night against 384 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: the Packers, in which he threw for two hundred fifty 385 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: seven yards in two touchdowns. He was obviously forced to 386 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: lean a lot more on passing. He threw a season 387 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: high forty attempts. Just with all the injuries to the 388 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: running back corp we've got, you know, Rhem Moster are 389 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: out for the season, Jamichael Hasey on Ir and Elijah 390 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Mitchell missed this game. Even if Mitchell returns four week four, 391 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: I think that Garoppolo still has a really good chance 392 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: to go under two hundred forty five and a half 393 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: passing yards. I also like Trevor Lawrence under two hundred 394 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: forty nine and a half passing yards on the road 395 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, so since he's pass rush has actually 396 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: looked quite good through three weeks, I know axurprised, but 397 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: this team is tied for the fourth most SAD, averaging 398 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: three point three per game, which is a major improvement 399 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: from their twenty twenty average of one point one per game. 400 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: I think they will keep Lawrence on his toes on 401 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: Thursday night. Lawrence hasn't thrown fewer than two picks in 402 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: any game this season. This game will also be really 403 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: low scoring. It has a point to forty six as 404 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: of Monday, so I don't see a ton of yards 405 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: a ton of points being put up on either side, 406 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: all right, So that is our elite entry for today, 407 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: going with Ryan Tannehill under two hundred forty five and 408 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: a half passing yards on the road against the Jets, 409 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo over two hundred forty five and a half 410 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: passing yards at home against the Seahawks, and Trevor Lawrence 411 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: under two hundred forty nine and a half passing yards 412 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: on the road against Bee Bengals. As a reminder, you 413 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: can mix and match fantasy points and player props to 414 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: make your lineups super spicy. Also, prize picks are markets moved, 415 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: so you will want to be nimble to lock and 416 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: be best numbers and make your picks as soon as possible. 417 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: If you haven't created a prize Fix account yet, please 418 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: check out the link in our episode description because Prize 419 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: Picks has a special for Fantasy Flax listeners. They will 420 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: match your first posity up to one hundred dollars. Just 421 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: click the link in our episode description or visit prize 422 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: picks dot com and use promo code action ten. All right, 423 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: let us keep it moving here on twenty one questions. 424 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: Our next segment is called full send or that's calf, 425 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: which is sort of the opposite of the last one. 426 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you five players whose values are 427 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: on the rise, and I want to know, are you 428 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: sending it with this player or is that caf? So, 429 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: just to explain, full send is like a ski snowboard thing, 430 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: like you're going for it, you're sending it, You're like 431 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: jumping off the cliff and whatever. Full commitment and that's calf. 432 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: Obvious means that's not true, or it's kind of. 433 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: I haven't been snowboarding in probably sixteen years now, I 434 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: really want to go again. I'm worried I'm going to die. 435 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to come, so I will. 436 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 2: Actually, my hips, my hips are so bad that like, 437 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm just worried. I skateboarded a lot as a kid, 438 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: and so I've got bad hips, and I'm just worried 439 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: I'm gonna fall one time and just like be done 440 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: being a walker for the rest of my life. That's 441 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: my big concern. 442 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: No, No, you have to come. If you ever come 443 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: out to Colorado, we can go snowboarding together. I am 444 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: actually teaching skiing and snowboarding part time at Barkingbridge this winter, 445 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: so I'm super excited about that. So yeah, come, I 446 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: send it with me. 447 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 2: I had flights to I had a flight to Denver 448 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: that were scheduled for the day that Rudy Gobert and 449 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 2: Tom Hanks had announced they had COVID, which in my 450 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: mind is the day COVID started. Yes, so I was 451 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: going to go snowboarding in in Denver and then the 452 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: world shut down. So maybe next maybe next winter. 453 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: Awesome, Well I'm gonna hold you to that, all right. 454 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: The first guy we're going to talk about is Sam Darnold. 455 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: So my Carolina Panthers are three and oh, as you know, 456 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: and Donald has finished as QB seventeen, QB thirteen, and 457 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: he did really well this week. He's got a soft 458 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: schedule coming up with Dallas, Philly, Minnesota, the Giants, and 459 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: the Felt on deck. Are you sending it on him 460 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: as a stream book QB one in the next few weeks. 461 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: Or do you think that's cap I actually had him 462 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: ranked like fourteenth this week. He finished eighth and six 463 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: point per passing touchdown league. The two rushing touchdowns helped. 464 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: I don't think you can count on that, but he 465 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: could have had two passing touchdowns very easily in that 466 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: game as well. So yeah, I buy him as a 467 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: streamable quarterback. I think he's in the Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, 468 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: maybe Daniel Jones range, where if they have a good matchup, 469 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: I think they have the skills to take advantage of. 470 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: Especially I just really like the Carolina Panthers offense and 471 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: the skill position players they have. I am as much 472 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: as I'm in the tank for Julio Jones, I might 473 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: be even more with DJ Moore because I've I think 474 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: he's one of the I don't know eight most talented 475 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: wide receivers in the NFL, and if Darnald can keep 476 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: playing like this, I think DJ Moore is going to 477 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: continue to be one of the best fantasy wide receivers. 478 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: I am so hype about DJ moore breakout season. I mean, 479 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 1: obviously he's been productive in the last few years, but 480 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: it was like he just got this wrap of being 481 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: like unpredictable and kind of a fantasy nightmare. He was 482 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: my touchdown last season. He literally was like twenty five 483 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: points or two points type guy, and it was very frustrating. 484 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: So love to see him perform. Well, I've actually just 485 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: been really surprised. If that hasn't been now surprising, I've 486 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: been really surprised with how like am i A. Robbie 487 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: Anderson has been from a fantasy perspective. 488 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems to be back in the I mean 489 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: everybody was like, oh, Robbie Anderson and Sam Darnold put 490 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: together with the Jets, this is gonna be great. They 491 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: know each other. Well, it turns out he's playing like 492 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: they're using him like they used him when he was 493 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 2: with the Jets, which makes him a boom or bust 494 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: like flex option. Yeah, it's disappointing. 495 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely disappointing. All right, The next guy we're going 496 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: to talk about is Trey Sermon. What is roller coaster? 497 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: This has been all right? Benched in week one, fumbles 498 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: and gets concust in its first NFL carry in week two, 499 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: then with just like the crazy attrition in the backfield, 500 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: he gets the start in week three, posts twelve touches 501 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: for thirty three our purpose yards and a touchdown. Are 502 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: you going full sund On Sermon season? Or is it cap? 503 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Once Elijah Mitchell. 504 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: Is healthy and we'll see what happens in week four. 505 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: I think he's got If Elijah Mitchell doesn't play in 506 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: week four, I think Trace Sarmon has one more chance 507 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: to prove himself and he has another game like this. 508 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: I think Elijah Mitchell is going to get that starting 509 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 2: job back. He absolutely Trace Sarmon has the opportunity to 510 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: take this job and run with it. We know how 511 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: talented he is. We know that Kyle Shannan really liked 512 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: him coming into the season. What happened between the draft 513 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: in week one, I don't think we'll ever really know. 514 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: But I wish we had insight in that in that 515 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: when we were doing drafts. 516 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: Right, there's so many. This is something that I've noticed 517 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: over the last couple of seasons really twenty twenty and 518 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. To go off on a slight tangent again, 519 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 2: is that the NFL changed media policies last season with 520 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: because of COVID, media members weren't allowed to come into 521 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: contact with players. They had limited practice, you know, viewing opportunities, 522 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 2: and a lot of teams just made that stuff permanent. 523 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 2: So there have been a lot of limitations in what 524 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: reporters are or aren't real allowed to report. There's a 525 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: lot of limitations on what they're allowed to see, Like 526 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: there are some teams who you can't even report who 527 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: goes in what order during team individual drills like that 528 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. They have sanctions on what you're allowed 529 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 2: to report and still have access. And so I think 530 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: that's what we're seeing, you know, with you know, Miles 531 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: Gaskin in the preseason when he didn't start the first 532 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: game at was something that I just think we didn't 533 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to know because the reporters couldn't tell us. 534 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: So I think that's probably what happened with San Francisco. 535 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: I'll say, if Trey Sermon has a big game of 536 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: Week four. He can be a really good fantasy option. 537 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 2: If not, I would guess they're going to go right 538 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: back to Elijah Mitchell whenever he healthy. 539 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was actually pretty concerned or maybe surprised to 540 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: see the usage of Kyle Uschek. Just like that to 541 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: me kind of communicated how if he Kyle Shanahan is 542 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: on leaning on sermon kind of long term, so I 543 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: am not sending it fully on him, though I did 544 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: bench Mike Davis to speak for him, so that's the 545 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: first time I've obviously been able to start him. Hopefully, yeah, 546 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: hopefully we will see him. Yeah. I think it was 547 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: like a one point difference, to be honest, even though 548 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: of course I will holed over this decision for like. 549 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: Mike Davis. 550 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, all right. The next guy we're 551 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: going to talk about is Chubba Hubbard. So crazy unfortunate 552 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: injury to CMC, which I saw from my phone. I 553 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: was like in the mountains and I'm just like looking 554 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: at this whole thing unfold, very scary. Though I guess 555 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: there's maybe a little more optimism because he didn't go 556 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: on IR so that kind of suggests the Panthers think 557 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: he would will return I guess earlier than three weeks. 558 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: But Hubbard is still probably going to be the top 559 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: waiver target. He's pretty effective. Eleven rushes for fifty two 560 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: yards and caught three of five targets for twenty seven yards. 561 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: Are you going full send on him, i e. Spending 562 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: all your fab to get him? Or is that a 563 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: little cap for a one to two week rental. 564 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I would blow all of 565 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: my fab on him. I wasn't doing that on Elijah 566 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: Mitchell either, But Hubbard is more the type of player 567 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: who I would be willing to do that rather than 568 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: Mitchell because we know the Panthers, you know, based on 569 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: what they did with Mike Davis last season, they want 570 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: to just use one guy primarily, and they're going to 571 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: get him involved in the passing game and they're going 572 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: to use him heavily in both facets of the game. 573 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: And so that's the kind of player I'm looking for 574 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: on waivers as a guy who can legitimately become a 575 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: must start option. I think it's a much narrower path 576 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: for someone like Elijah Mitchell because he's not going to 577 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: have a big passing game world load you know, Hubbard 578 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: played thirty eight to fifty two snaps after the first quarter, 579 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: Royce Freeman played just ten, So I think that's a 580 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: pretty good sign. And I think he could go from 581 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: you know, we saw with Mike Davis last year he 582 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: was a perceived replacement level player to a must start 583 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: fantasy option in this offense. I think Shabbahubbard could absolutely 584 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: make that kind of jump and he'll probably be a 585 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: top twenty running back for me this week in the rankings. 586 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: So I'm sending that that's the term, right, Yes. 587 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: Okay, what was as a follow up? What would your 588 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: FAB recommendation be in terms of like percentage. 589 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: I would say probably forty percent of my remaining FAB 590 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: for him. But if I'm truly desperate, like if there's 591 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: leagues where I'm zero to three, I might be willing 592 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: to go higher than that because I just need to 593 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: get wins fair fair enough. 594 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's it's tough because I do write 595 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: a way we call him too, and I have to 596 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: like give one statement at the animal always like it 597 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: depends though, like I need the roster. But yeah, I 598 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: think I would feel comfortable with like thirty to forty 599 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: percent if you're if you really need him. Otherwise, I 600 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: think you can probably stay away from him if you're 601 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: in a really good spot. 602 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, like if you're not going to start him 603 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: in the next couple of weeks, like there's no buys. 604 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: So if you're if you're if you have two running 605 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: backs you feel confident in. He's not a super high priority. 606 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right. The next guy we're going to 607 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: talk about is Odell Beckham. So he made his season 608 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: debut this weekend and looked really good. Five catches online 609 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: targets for seventy seven yards in a touchdown, and he 610 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: tacked on ten rushing yards with Jarvis Landry out on 611 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: ir and Beckham looking this good, Are you going full 612 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: send on him restless season? 613 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, full send. He played forty seven to fifty 614 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: seven snaps before the fourth quarter. They barely played him 615 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: in the fourth because they were winning by so much. 616 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: I'm very impressed with how Odell Beckham played because I 617 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: thought he was going to be limited in his first 618 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: game back, and the fact that he wasn't, the fact 619 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: that he played his full role, the fact that he 620 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: was clearly the number one option in that offense in 621 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: the passing game. I think think he's going to be 622 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: a top twenty four wide receiver moving forward, which I'm 623 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: surprised at. 624 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: I am very bummed personally that I don't have any 625 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: exposure to him, and that wasn't necessarily intentional, just kind 626 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: of like ended up being that way. 627 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: So kind was for me. I was reading a lot 628 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: of camp reports and I kept saying like, oh, don't 629 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: expect him to play a normal role in September, or 630 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: at least for the first few weeks, and so I 631 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: wasn't surprised at all that he was an active the 632 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: first two weeks. I had him going into week one 633 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: before he knew he was going to be an active. 634 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: I had him like fifty fifth a wide receiver, so 635 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: I was fading him a little bit. But yeah, now 636 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: I have a little bit of fult off. 637 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right. The last guy, I don't think 638 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: anyone has FOMO about him because he's probably widely available. 639 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: But it's going to be Dawson Knox. He has scored 640 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: in two straight games. Is he a viable streamer in 641 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: this high upside Bills offense or do you think that's 642 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: cap especially just like considering how crazy the tight end 643 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: landscape is especially like you just mentioned, like it's really 644 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: so wide open after something point, So do you think 645 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: he is a viable streamer? 646 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: He plays tight end, and he's active for NFL games. 647 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: He has a heartbeat, So yeah, he can be a 648 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: stream a viable streaming option because all he has to 649 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: do is catch a ball at the two yard line 650 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: and fall forward. But that's really all it takes to 651 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: be a top twelve tight end most weeks, and so 652 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: he plays an awesome offense. Josh Allen answered my questions 653 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: about whether the first two weeks we're a sign of 654 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: things to come, and yeah, I think Dawson Knox is 655 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: going to be in the fifteen to twenty range at 656 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: tight end. And if you don't have a good one, 657 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: I've got started David Najoku last week that blew up 658 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: in my face, and then I started somebody terrible who 659 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: didn't do anything this week. So yeah, I might be 660 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: interested in picking up David Dawson Knox. 661 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: Awesome, all right, Chris, we have eight more rapid fire 662 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: questions in the right name one player you just can't quit. 663 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: Probably Moore or Julio Jones. Maybe more to Julio Jones 664 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: now because you've had to make more excuses for him 665 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 2: the last year and a half. But I I just 666 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: I've seen no reason to think he's taken a step 667 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: back as far as his ability and talent to go, 668 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: even though the fact that he's thirty two years old 669 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: and so as long as Julio Jones is healthy. It 670 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: takes a lot of energy. It takes a lot of 671 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: effort for me not to rank him as a top 672 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: twelve wide receiver just as a reflex. I just think 673 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: he's absolutely one of the like three or four most 674 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: gifted players to ever play the position, and so I'm 675 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: gonna believe in him as long as he as long 676 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: as he's around, I love that. 677 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: Well, I am very optimistic on him moving forward. All Right, 678 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: you told me that you are a or at least 679 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: used to be, a Dolphins fan, So some of these 680 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: questions are going to be Dolphins bemed Okay, predict when 681 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: the Dolphins will win their next Super Bowl. 682 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: I do have a Dolphins jersey behind me. It's a 683 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: you can't see it, but it's a Chris Chambers. So 684 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: throwback to the mid two thousand Dolphins and you know 685 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: I grew up a Dolphins fan. Obviously they're the Dolphins, 686 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: and so I've I've lost a lot of the rooting 687 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: interest for them. I can't imagine being emotionally invested in 688 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: that team at this point. But it hangs off me 689 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: like a like a like a phantom limb, you know. 690 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: So I will say the Dolphins will win their next 691 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 2: Super Bowl twelve years now. I can't tell if that's 692 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 2: too optimistic or not optimistic enough. 693 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: That is the longest anyone has given me in terms 694 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: of from what but fair enough. I get the struggles, 695 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your honesty. Of course, give us one 696 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: Dolphins player you think is underrated for fantasy. 697 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: Will Fuller. He's another guy that I will always make 698 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: excuses for. He left yesterday's game. I think it was 699 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 2: just a cramp. But man, I love guys who get hurt. 700 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: Is the thing I love, like the quote unquote injury 701 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: prone guys, and so because I just I don't think 702 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: we actually are as good at predicting injuries as we 703 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: think we are totally, so I'll always advocate In baseball, 704 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: John Carlos Stanton has been my guy for years, Will Fuller, 705 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: Julio Jones, and every time they get hurt, I feel 706 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: like an idiot, and Will Fuller left Yester's game with 707 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: I believe it was just cramps. That's what it looked like. 708 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 2: He should have scored a touchdown. There was a defensive 709 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: pass interference that didn't get called in the end zone, 710 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 2: absolutely blown call. I just think he's a really, really, 711 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: really good player. I think people have forgotten that he 712 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: was wide receiver eight before his suspension. Last season, he 713 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: was point two points in PPR, behind AJ Brown in 714 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: points per game. Right now, with Jacoby Brissett in that 715 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: offensive line, I don't think his upside is quite that high. 716 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: But if this offense figures it out, if Tua gets 717 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 2: healthy and they can figure out how to protect him, 718 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: I do think will Fuller has top twenty upsides, So 719 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: I think he's the most underrated player on that offense. 720 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: I was very nervous when I saw him down in 721 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: the end zone, just sitting there, but happy to see 722 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: him walk off, and it didn't look like he was 723 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: like limping or anything. So hopefully it is a cramp 724 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: type situation and not serious, all right. Was Joe Flacco 725 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: ever elite? Yes or no? No? 726 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: It was against Denver in the in the playoff game, 727 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: if that Denver defensive back just knocks the ball down 728 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: rather than I don't even remember he was. There was 729 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: a big play to win the game. And if that 730 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: guy just knocks it down, he just like fell down 731 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: three feet short of the ball. He just knocks it down, 732 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco probably loses eighty million dollars in career earnings 733 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: and that discussion never has to happen. He is, He 734 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: was perfectly fine. 735 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: It is crazy how pivotal little like plays and then 736 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: there's not a little play, but like just a singular 737 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: play can just narrative on eight player. So for sure, 738 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: all right, will any Dolphins player finish in the top 739 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: five at their respective position for fantasy? 740 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 2: Noah, Mike Eski might have the best chance just because 741 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 2: of how bad tight end is, but I have no 742 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: confidence in that actually happening. 743 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he bageled in the first week five point six 744 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: fantasy points. I think in half tpr in week two 745 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: and then he I think he had like eight targets yesterday, but. 746 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 2: He was well on I think it might have been 747 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: like twelve. Actually, he was well on his way to 748 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: a bad game yesterday, because I think he had two 749 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: targets heading into the fourth quarter, and then in the 750 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 2: fourth quarter in overtime, Jacoby Brissette just threw it to him. Overall, 751 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: we had twelve targets, ten catches, eighty six yards. 752 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: He had a huge first down catch. I feel like 753 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: I extended the game. 754 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he I don't have any faith in him, 755 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: like he's in that streaming tight end discussion for me, 756 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: maybe higher than Dawson Knox, but not much. 757 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: Aside from Chubba Hubbard, who do you think managers should 758 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: prioritize on the waiver wire this week? 759 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 2: Emmanuel Sanders. If you've subscribed to the Fantasy Football Today newsletter, 760 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: which you should, I write it eight times a week. 761 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: It's my primary job at this point. I've been advocating 762 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 2: for a manual Sanders since the preseason and through the 763 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: first two games when he didn't do all that much, 764 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 2: and it was because Josh Allen just flat out missed 765 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: him on a couple of really makeable big plays. And 766 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: if Josh Allen had been a little more accurate the 767 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: first two games of the season, well we saw in 768 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 2: Week three when Josh Allen played better, Emmanuel Sanders had 769 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 2: a big game. I think if you believe in Josh Allen. 770 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: Moving forward, you should have Emmanuel Sanders on your roster, 771 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: and he's available in about forty percent of CBS fantasy leagues, 772 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: so I would guess Yahoo and ESPN's even higher because 773 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: they usually have a lower roster rate. 774 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, he's definitely under fifty percent roster in Yahoo. 775 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: So he is headlining my waiver, maare Colin. 776 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: I think that the way they've used him so far 777 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: down the field, he's been really still really good the 778 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: last couple of years. He ruptured his achilles like three 779 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 2: or four years ago, and he still played at a 780 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 2: really high level. So I think Emmanuel Sanders is a 781 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 2: must roster player. 782 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: Love that. Give me one player who you think is 783 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: primed for a big fantasy season next year. 784 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: Would be cheating to say Christian McCaffrey. We're talking about 785 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: players who haven't done it yet. I'll say Jalen Waddle. Okay, 786 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 2: not to actually be a Dolphins homer or to paint 787 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: myself as that, but. 788 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: Oh, I love what I've seen from him, so. 789 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: They clearly love him. Yeah, I mean, yet yesterday he 790 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: you know, I think there were two or three situations 791 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: where you can say Najie Harris. The way he was 792 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: used in the passing game was a symptom of the 793 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: Steelers dysfunction as much as a sign of how good 794 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: he is. And I think you can say the same 795 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 2: thing about Jayleen Wattle yesterday. They just can't really move 796 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 2: the ball in chunks, so they have to use Jalen 797 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 2: Wattle's playmaking with the ball in his hands. But he's 798 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: a really good playmaker with the ball in his hands. 799 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: I think once that offense figures things out, I mean, 800 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: the breakout might come this year if if Tua gets 801 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: healthy and they figure things out. But he is someone 802 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: I feel very confident in moving forward. 803 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: I love that. I am all over Jalen Waddell. All right, 804 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: we have two more questions. How many times do you 805 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: think it would take you to make an extra point? 806 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: I've tried several times in my life. It's never happened. 807 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: That's super cool. 808 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 2: I just cannot figure out the mechanics of it. But 809 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: I think, like ten okay, I could get it because 810 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm a pretty good punter. I can probably 811 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 2: punt the ball about forty yards at max. I'm not 812 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: gonna say every time, So I feel confident that I 813 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: could get it through the uprights. It would just it's 814 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 2: more about the form and the technique. 815 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: I think it. 816 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: Doesn't have to look pretty for sure, Right, yeah, No, 817 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 2: it's gonna wobble just barely over that bar. 818 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 1: Well, I definitely could not make that. You could give 819 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: me one hundred tries incentivize me saying there's a million 820 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: dollars if I make that, I don't think I would 821 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: so very impressive, all right. The final question is if 822 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: you had one cardinal rule to tell someone just getting 823 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: into fantasy this year, what would it be? 824 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 2: The one that I've been saying a lot since the preseason. 825 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've watched ted Lasso, but it's 826 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: fast become one of my favorite shows. One of the 827 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 2: one of the key things that I love from that 828 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: show is, you know, one of his players messes up 829 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: and he tells him, you know what the you know 830 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 2: what the happiest animal is. It's a goldfish. There's a 831 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: ten second memory gag goldfish that that is. I think, 832 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 2: you know. We we were doing the burn book section earlier, 833 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: and one thing that made me think is like, you 834 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 2: should really never do that. You should never like just 835 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 2: say I will never draft that player again, I will 836 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: never have that guy on my team because situations changed 837 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: and context is so important for fantasy football, and so 838 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 2: if a player who has disciplined, think Joe Mixon this 839 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: season disappointed a lot of people the first four years 840 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 2: of his career, I never had him on any of 841 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 2: my teams. I think Adam won because of a rookie draft, 842 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 2: but other than that, I never really had him because 843 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 2: I didn't buy this idea that he was such an 844 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 2: incredible talent that he was going to overcome the bad 845 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: situation he was in. I think the situation is a 846 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: lot better. So I have a lot of Joe Mixon 847 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 2: this year. You should goold never. I mean like there 848 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 2: are I will never begrudge someone saying like I'll never 849 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 2: draft Joe Mixing specifically, or Tyreek Hill or anyone who 850 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 2: you know they find objectionable as a person off the field. 851 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense. But as far as you're just 852 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: talking about production in the NFL and fantasy, you should 853 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 2: never say I will never take a player. You should 854 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 2: always have an open mind and take approach each player 855 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 2: every week and every season with an open mind and say, 856 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 2: you know, this is a fresh start. Let's look at 857 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 2: the situation as objectively as possible. Look at the player 858 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 2: and see what their chances are producing. Because if you're 859 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 2: too emotional about it and you say I'll never draft 860 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: that player again, you're gonna miss out on some guys. 861 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: That is excellent advice your fantasy football and a lot 862 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: of facets of life. I think for sure, all right, 863 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: that will do it for this round of twenty one 864 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: questions with our esteemed guest, Chris Towers. Chris, I cannot 865 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: thank you enough for joining me during this insanely busy time. 866 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: Please tell everyone where they can find you this NFL season, 867 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: as if they don't already know. 868 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, CBS Sports, cbsports dot com, slash Fantasy You'll you'll 869 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: find my writing there all throughout the week. My rankings 870 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 2: are on the CBS Sports Fantasy Football Today newsletter, which 871 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: you can find at cbssports dot com slash Newsletters. That's 872 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 2: pretty much where you'll find the majority of my writing. 873 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 2: Eight times a week, twice on Wednesday, twice on Sunday, 874 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 2: not on Saturday. I do need a day off. But yeah, 875 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: I think it's a really good product. I think you'll 876 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: really like it, So that would be the main if 877 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 2: you like me at all, that would be the subscribing to. 878 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 2: That would be the main way to show it otherwise 879 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: at c Tower CBS. On Twitter, I tweet entirely too much, 880 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 2: sometimes about fantasy football, often about Star Wars or Taylor 881 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 2: Swift or whatever else is on my mind at the moment. 882 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: That is pretty much what my Twitter feed is like. 883 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: Very stream of consciousness, but I think it's great. As 884 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: a reminder, Sean Kerner and Chris Rabot are here on 885 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: the Fantasy Flags every Monday, Wednesday and Friday giving you 886 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: guys all the DFS waiver Wire at rankings Info to 887 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: help you dominate your fantasy leads. I will be back 888 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: this Thursday and every Thursday from now on with my 889 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: Mailbag episode, speaking of which you should email any mail 890 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: Bag questions to mail Bag at actionnetwork dot com. Thank 891 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,919 Speaker 1: you again for listening. Please rate and review our show 892 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, download us wherever you like to listen, 893 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: and we will see you next time on the Fantasy 894 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: Flax percently five price Picks. Peace out, y'all,