1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on Giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: dot Com the Giant part of the Giants Podcast. Welcome 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: to the newest episode of the Giant Subtle Podcast. John 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Smoke with you today's guest Giants Safety Jabrol Peppers. But 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: first want to remind you that the Giant Subtle Podcast 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: is part of the Giants Podcast Network, which is presented 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: by Investors Bank. It includes the Giants Rewind podcast and 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: Big Blue Kick Off Live, our daily call and show 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: every day at twelve, which you can find on the 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Giants Mobile, Appa, Giants dot Com, Slash Podcast, and your 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: favorite podcast platforms. Now we're John buy. Your guest is 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Giant Safety Jabral Pepper's Jabril. How are you man? I'm 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: doing well. It's it's it's good to have you with 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: me here. We're we're doing this on remote. Um. But 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: I think it's something you guys have kind of managed 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: all year, and I guess that's a good way to start. 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: What does it say about your team, the way you've 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: managed all the unique circumstances that you're walking into week 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: thirteen here tied for first place in the NFC East. Well, 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it is unique circumstances for everyone. 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just glad that you know we're 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: handling it the right way. It's not affecting us too much. 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: And you know we're still will prepare again and we 24 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: got yeah, no question about it. And let's talk about 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: your defense specifically. Why do you think your group, along 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: with your coaching staff, has been able to emerge as 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: a top ten defense this late in the year. What 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: makes you guys special? Just attention to detail, man learning 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: from mistakes. Um, you know, the coaches coaches hard, and 30 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: you know we take to the coach and we want 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: to be coached. We want to buy in. And you know, 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: I think when you got a group of guys that 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: you know want to do that, I think success is 34 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: the only option. Well, you talk about attention to detail, 35 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: so I guess I'll follow up with this. What's different 36 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: about the way this coaching staff approaches teaching and that 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: attention to detail compared to maybe some of the other 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: coaches and teams and staffs you've worked with before. Well, 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, I don't really like to compare because you 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: always belittle someone. But you know what I can speak 41 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: on is these guys are great teachers. Um, you know, 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: they will them every question and you know, they just 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: find ways to get get get things to resonate with, 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: you know whatever players. So some guys learned better visually. 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Some guys learned better on the field. You know, some 46 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: guys learn better, you know, a boy writing things down. 47 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: So I think they've done a great job of, you know, 48 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: understanding what each guy needs and and and and you know, 49 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: tending to that. Does that approach also require you, guys 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: to make sure you go out of your way And 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: I know you're a guy that does this already, but 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: for the rest of the guys on the defense that 53 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: you have to do some little extra work and do 54 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more studying, a little bit more film work. Absolutely, 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, we're hard on each other. The coaches don't 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: have to mandate that, you know, Logan Ryan, myself, Nate Ebner, 57 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, guys who you know understand the importance of film, 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: steady and preparation so you can go out there and 59 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: play faster, you know, where were free with the confidence 60 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: you need to play with. Um. So, you know, I 61 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: think that's definitely a standard. How does that manifest that 62 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: on the you know, how does that help you when 63 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: you do that extra work and you do have that 64 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: attention to detail and extra preparedness. Oh, because you recognize things, um, 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, whether you've seen it on tape, whether you 66 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: know it was a it was a nugget of coach 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: told you. But when you dive in to your opponent 68 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: and you really understand them and what they're trying to 69 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: do to opposing defenses, you know, it just allows you 70 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: to play fast. I recognize in certain splits, certain sets, um, 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, recognize what they like to do out of 72 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: certain personnels. Now you're not gonna know everything, but the 73 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: more you prepare for, the more you study for, you know, 74 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: the more the more you will know that. And you 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: know it could turn a good play into a great play. Yeah, 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: no question about Brown. We had Logan on this podcast 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: last week and he talked about the importance of disguising 78 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: what you're trying to do. Is that part of that 79 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: attention to detail, doing those small things pre snap to 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: put a shadow of a doubt into that opposing quarterback 81 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: that slows them down a little bit. Absolutely, you know, 82 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: you don't want to give it to him too earlier, 83 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: and you don't want to give it to him easy Um, 84 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: you know we've we've we've had our fair shot. You know, 85 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks who we've played. And once you see a 86 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: great quarterback you know have trouble with it. You know, 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: it definitely makes you want to buy in more, learn more, 88 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: learn how we can you know, keep keep keep disguising 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: things differently. Um. You know when you have guys like 90 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: you know, Logan Ryan, you know, Julian Love myself, Xavier McKinney, 91 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: You know, guys who can do all things. You know, 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: play outside, play inside, can blitz, drop under dropping the undercoverage, 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: drop deep their deep path. You know, it definitely gives 94 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: you a lot of variation. And when guys can handle it, 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, I know the coaches feel like they can 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: keep throwing a lot of things at us because how 97 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: we've been handling it. Yeah, I'm gonna throw James Bradbray 98 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: into the mix too. I've seen him replaced as a 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: safety sometimes and uh, some of the stuff you guys do. 100 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: Would you be able to do all this stuff the 101 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: coaches are asking you to do if you didn't have 102 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: such a smart and versatile group in terms of your 103 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: skill sets, it will definitely be harder. You know, you, 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: you definitely have to have a certain level of you know, 105 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: football understanding and WS and you know, anticipation. You know, 106 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: I definitely think no matter what the guys you know possess, 107 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: I think this coach's staff does a great job of 108 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: playing guys to their strengths. So whatever whatever our strengths 109 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: might have been, you know, I think they would have 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: done a great job anyway of you know, putting us 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: in positions to accept. How tough is it, your bro 112 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned trying to disguise differently because you know, when 113 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: teams see you guys on tape, eventually they're gonna find 114 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: the tendency right, and you have to keep playing that 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: Canton mouse games. How hard is it as you get 116 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: deeper into the season and more and more of what 117 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: you do is on tape to keep keeping things different 118 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: so that teams can't figure out what you're doing. Well, 119 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that easy, you know, because we're 120 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: so we have so much variation, and week to week 121 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: our game plan changes, Like we might play a coverage 122 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: one wee can not play it again, you know, So 123 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: it definitely gives the offense a lot to think about 124 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: and to practice against, you know, what I'm saying, So 125 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: all we want is that little bit of shadow of 126 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: doubt or that little hitch of uncertainty. And you know, 127 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: that's all we did. I mean, that's all we need, 128 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, And that's a win for us. So you know, 129 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: we know, we know we played great quarterbacks. We know 130 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: sometimes you know they're gonna figure it out. And when 131 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, those guys get paid a lot of money too. 132 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: But the harder we can make it on them, and 133 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the more we can keep doing that, and I think 134 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: the better off will be the New York Giants and 135 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: Quest Diagnostics want our fans to come back stronger than ever. 136 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Now you can order your own lab test through Quest 137 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: Direct to get the health answers you need most. Look, 138 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: I'm a novice here, but I watch the tape every 139 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday, Jabro and you know, you guys get 140 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: into eventually what looks like all right, this is cover three. 141 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: This is covered too, But the way you get there 142 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: is so different based on the week that I have 143 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: to rewind two or three times to see who's going where, 144 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: who's playing what spot? And look, I have a clicker 145 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: and I get to watch it three times. I can 146 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: imagine what these other quarterbacks are seeing in real time. 147 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: So how does that manifest itself on the field with 148 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: opposing quarterbacks when it takes them that extra beat or 149 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: two or three to see what's going on back there, Well, 150 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: then then that's when the big dogs up front get 151 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: to eat, you know, make them hitch, make him hitch, 152 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: make him hold the ball a little longer than he 153 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: expected to now, you know, now, big big leos in 154 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: his face. Now, big decks scraping around. Now, now Dalvin 155 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: is coming fat the ball, you know, or we might 156 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: send the nickel pressure in there, or I might be blessing. 157 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: So you know, it's a lot to think about, um, 158 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, especially when it gets you know what, I'm 159 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: longer down in distances where we can really throw our 160 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: exotic stuff out there, you know. So it is. We 161 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: know it's definitely tough for a posing quarterback, but we 162 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: know they're gonna make plays too, you know. So you know, 163 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: like you said, it's a cat and mouse game. You know, 164 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I like to I like to consider it a chess game. 165 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: You know, your move, mom, moved, Your move, mom moving? 166 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: You know I should get a beat on. You know 167 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: what strategy you're trying to use and you know, you 168 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: can try to get a beat on what strategy we're using. 169 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: So and I think the coaching staff does a great 170 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: job of in game adjustments because we might have a 171 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: plan for the week, then we get out there and 172 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: they're running something completely different than we're used to seeing 173 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: on you know, on tape. Now we've gotta just on 174 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: a fly. So you know, it's a back and forth battle, man. 175 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: But that's why you gotta let his game, man, because 176 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: Sunday is the day you put it all together. You know, 177 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: your your whole we could pre preparation, you know, whether 178 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: it's film study, practicing hard, getting your body ready to go, 179 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: and then going out there and seeing it all come 180 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: together on Sundays. Man, It's it's fun. Man, It's definitely 181 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: fun to be a part of. Yeah, it's certainly fun 182 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: to watch. And then once you guys get past the strategy, 183 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: the skies, the scheme, then I know this coaching staff 184 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: is very focused based on whereever you are in the field, 185 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: your bro you have to play the correct technique and 186 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: you have to be in the right spot and play 187 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: the way they want you to play. So what are 188 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: some of the basic tenants that you guys have to follow. 189 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: You've become a very heavy zone team over the course 190 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: of this season, and obviously, depending on what zone you're in, 191 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: your responsibilities of different. But what are some of the 192 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: basic fundamentals that you guys have to stick to in 193 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: order to execute some of these heavy zone schemes that 194 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Pat Graham is putting over the past few weeks. Well, 195 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: you gotta be excellent reading the quarterback, you gotta have 196 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: excellent breaks, everyone has to run to the ball, and 197 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: we have to be terrific tacklers. You know. That's That's 198 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: about all I'll say on that, you know, without giving 199 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: away too much, but that's uh, you know, those are 200 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: those are definitely you know, the main points. Are you 201 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: enjoying the role that this coaching staff has kind of 202 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: carved out for you absolutely, you know, I'm I'm I'm 203 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: enjoying playing, you know, playing alongside Logan, enjoy playing alongside Bradbury, 204 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, and just the journey we've taken in the 205 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: steps we've taken compared to how we started off the season. 206 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: You know, it definitely speaks volume to our work and 207 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, how we come into work each and every week. 208 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: You already mentioned a couple of times. What's been the 209 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: impact of Logan and Bradbury on this defense. Well, Brad's 210 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: has been shutting everything down. You know. He's a physical 211 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: corner with the best ball skills I think I've seen, 212 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, and at any level of football. Um, and 213 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: he's a big dude who can can move that quick 214 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: within his within his cylinder, you know, great feet. And 215 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: the Logan just brings an experience, savvy, competitiveness, you know. 216 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: And and and we were actually talking about this early. 217 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: We like to compete with each other, you know, when 218 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: we're out there, keep pushing each other man, because I 219 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: think that's good for us, It's good for the team. 220 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, once once we get our young 221 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: bucks up and running, you know, like z, once he 222 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, starts to have a defined role, you know, 223 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: the more of these things takes on. And I'm just 224 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see, you know, how good we 225 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: can be, all the things we can do. You know, Blake, 226 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Blake's playing out of his mind in the middle. You know, 227 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: our d lines has just been stout all all years. 228 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm excited. I'm excited about this group. 229 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: You mentioned the d line they've been stopping the run. 230 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys don't even have to bring that 231 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: at your safety into the box a lot of the time. 232 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: And how much does that impact the amount of disguis 233 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: you're able to do. When you can just start in 234 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: that too safety show and then basically do whatever you 235 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: want out of that, it definitely helps. But you know, 236 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: we we like some tackles to now, but but no, man, 237 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: it definitely helps. And then the the trust factor that 238 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: we've built within one another, you know, because not having 239 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: the TAS is not excuse, but you know O ti 240 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: AS is huge for you know, just developing that trust, 241 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, getting the reps out the way, you know, 242 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: making early mistakes and O tis as opposed to you know, 243 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: making them in camp or making them on you know, 244 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: some of the early games we've played. But throughout the year, 245 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: and I think we've did a great job of working 246 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: in cohesion, you know, trusting each other to everyone do 247 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: their one eleven, you know, because if everyone does, they 248 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: want to let them the job get done. So you know, 249 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: I think we've definitely been you know, on the up 250 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: and up, but it's still a lot of room for improvement. Man. 251 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: We all know that, so but it's it's just fun 252 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: and and it makes you feel good to see how 253 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: much we've developed in you know, come together as a defense. 254 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: You're bro you're getting your tackles because you have Julian 255 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: and Logan back there deep sometimes and you're basically playing 256 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: I realize you're safety, but you're almost playing that second 257 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: linebacker spot next to Blake sometimes down there, right and 258 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: some of those sub packages. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and and 259 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: and that allows it again after the quarterback, which you 260 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: would imagine has got to be fun for you. Hey, 261 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: Giant fans, get a New York Giants checking account from 262 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Investors Bank with the Giants brand, the debit card, security 263 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: features and discounts at the Giants online shop. You can 264 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: earn up the two of your fifty dollars when you 265 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: open an account at Investors Bank dot COM's last Giants 266 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: remember f D I C. All right, let's let's talk 267 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: about Seattle real quick here. Russell Wilson, let's start as 268 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: a passenger, brill. What's the biggest challenge When you watch 269 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: him on tape, we all know about his proficiency with 270 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: the deep ball. Oh yeah, he's one of the best 271 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: deep ball throws in the National Football League. He's a 272 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: guy who can make all the throws, um and you 273 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: know he looks to get his playmakers the ball. So 274 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, we definitely have to be on our p's 275 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: and queues. We have to trust what we see and 276 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: we have to you know, play very competitive football on 277 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: the balls. And you know they have they have guys 278 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: who can go up and high point the ball. So 279 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: we have to play great through the hands. And then 280 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: how do you contained him as a runner? You have 281 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: to be excellent and your you know rush responsibilities. You 282 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: know you're rest skiing whatever that whatever that rushes have 283 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: to have great containment, you know, and you know, try 284 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: to keep him in the pocket and don't let him 285 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: outside and extend him plays on us like like we've 286 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: all seen him do numerous amounts of times. Great pair 287 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: of wide receivers, but very different guys. Give me your 288 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: little scouting report without giving away that everything you got 289 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: obviously on metcalf and walking, how do you slow you 290 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: know both those guys true speed for three. You know, um, 291 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: DK is a big guy, go up and make the balls, 292 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean catches. You know, he can take the top 293 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,479 Speaker 1: off and you know I think he's a better outrunner 294 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: than you know, a lot of people give him credit for. 295 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: He's strong at the top of his brakes. Um, you know, 296 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: TD been doing it for a long time now, excellent 297 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: and slot he can line up outside. You know, he's 298 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: an excellent route runner. Once he gets it in the 299 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: teeth of the defense, you know he can be allowed 300 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: to deal with. So you know, and and and with 301 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: the acquisition and Chris Carson, they got back. You know, 302 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: they got a guy who they could you know, hand 303 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: the ball off too. And you know he's a physical 304 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: downhill or runner, you know, good speed, can run through 305 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: the tackles and bounce it. So you know, we know 306 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: we have our hands full this week. But you know 307 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: we accept the challenge. Man, we we love the challenge. 308 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: I got to imagine, and you made this point before. 309 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: This is got to be a team effort, right, Everyone 310 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: just do their one eleventh job. Because you're not stopping 311 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf with one guy. You're not stopping Chris Cars 312 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: with one guy. This has got to be a total 313 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: team effort, right, absolutely, absolutely, And um, you know we 314 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: we we have to play great complimentary football, you know 315 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: in all phases. You know, you know, last week we 316 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: kind of got exploited on special teams a little bit. 317 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: But then I have to go out there and play great, 318 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: fundamentally sound football, situationally complimentary football, and you know, limit 319 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: our mistakes and you know, just make them beat us. 320 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: And that's what you guys have done a year. You've 321 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: given up some of the fewest big plays in all 322 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: of football. Is that one of the real keys this week, 323 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: given their skill set, their quarterback, their wide receivers, just 324 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: to prevent those big plays. Absolutely, you know, it's it's 325 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: it's easy to score when you know teams is constantly 326 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: having explosive plays. But you know, offenses you don't like 327 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: having a tick tick tick down the field, you know, 328 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: And uh, I think that works into the defensive favorite 329 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: final question, do you keep an on it guy like 330 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams? See how he's playing, you know, fellow safety. 331 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: He leads them in sacks. I think he's second in 332 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: quarterback hits. Do you do you like take time to 333 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: watch some of those other guys at those positions and 334 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: just kind of see what they're doing around the league Sometimes, Yeah, 335 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: I watched, I watched all the top guys. You know, Um, 336 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: what do you think of Jamal and how he's playing. 337 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: I think he's playing well, especially with all the injuries 338 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's been dealing with. You know, I 339 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: think he's only played and what like six or seven games. Yeah, 340 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: he leading him in sacks, QB hits like you know, 341 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: that's that's that's a great feat when you think about it. Um, 342 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just happy for him. You know, 343 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: uh is looking like this thing has worked out for him. 344 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to you know, compete with him on Sunday. Um. 345 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: You know, we played the Jets last year. It was 346 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: fun competing with him last year. So you know, I 347 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: always liked those matchups, like last week it was Jessie 348 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: Bates and Van Bell, you know, so you know, we 349 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: we like those matchups absolutely, Jabril, good stuff, my friend. 350 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: We really appreciate all the time. Great insight, great conversation. 351 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: Best of luck against Seattle on Sunday, Sarah, thank you. 352 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: That's giant safety. Jabral Peppers want to remind you you 353 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: can find the GIHNT Subtle podcast and the Giants Podcast Network. 354 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: We're just presented by Investors Bank. Make sure you go 355 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: to giants dot com to John's mo Blapper any of 356 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms to find all of our podcast 357 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us today in the John 358 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Subtle Podcast for Jabral Peppers. I'm John Chuncle. See you 359 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: next time. Everybody, stay safe.