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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul cal Bc joins me.

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Speaker 1: So Paul likes to say it can always get worse,

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Speaker 1: and it did on Sunday in Denver. There was the

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Speaker 1: loss of the game. There was the loss of Cole McCoy,

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Speaker 1: and there was the loss of the defense's ability to

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Speaker 1: stop the run. Let's get into it. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode six twenty six, and it starts now Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. Hit in the backfield and down goes Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Plus our world can only imagine Arizona Cardinals podcasts. After

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Speaker 1: the game, We're out there to cross my face just

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Speaker 1: to be able to talk out there here. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I really shouldn't talk because I'm looking at the forecast

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Speaker 1: for what's coming in Denver. By Wednesday it's going to

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Speaker 1: be negative of one as and then on Thursday the

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Speaker 1: low was gonna be negative fifteen and negative one is

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Speaker 1: a high. On Thursday, we went to dinner on Saturday

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Speaker 1: night with a former Valley sportscaster, Vic Lombardi. Your's truly

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Speaker 1: and Ron Wolfley Wolf likes to Flexiti's from Buffalo. He

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Speaker 1: was so cold walking the five minutes from the hotel

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Speaker 1: is an outdoor pavilion. Basically, I mean we were freezing

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Speaker 1: walking and Vic had like a light jacket on Denver Reson.

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Speaker 1: He's like, are you guys really cold? Are you serious?

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Speaker 1: I could play golf in this right now. We're like,

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Speaker 1: get us out of here. So yeah, we have a

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Speaker 1: newfounder appreciation for the AC at least I do now.

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Speaker 1: At kickoff it was thirty nine degrees, but when that

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing it was close to about thirty maybe thirty one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it dipped below thirty, but I do

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Speaker 1: recall one. I think it was in the second half.

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Speaker 1: A sideline hit Dave pass asking just how you were doing?

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Speaker 1: How cold was it? And I believe the quote was

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Speaker 1: it's dan cold, Paul Dave is did I really sound

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Speaker 1: They're in their climate controlled booth, you know, to heck

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Speaker 1: with the sideline reporters, Okay, but you know what, it

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Speaker 1: really wasn't that bad until the sun went down on

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Speaker 1: certainly wasn't an excuse for anything going on there heat

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Speaker 1: blows on either end of the bench. The benches are heated.

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Speaker 1: That was the best part about doing the halftime show,

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Speaker 1: as I got to enjoy four glorious minutes on the

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Speaker 1: heated bench. All my goodness, everyone should have one of

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Speaker 1: those in their house, in their man cave. Get like

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Speaker 1: a heated bench you can watch the games on that. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: that is something I really CALVC Consulting needs to bring

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Speaker 1: to market, those NFL heated benches that you can put

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Speaker 1: in your basement, especially in the Midwest, that would be

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Speaker 1: out standing to have something to watch your games on.

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Speaker 1: You do have it in the vehicles, though, don't you

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Speaker 1: don't you have the heat it seats in the vehicles.

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Speaker 1: But honestly, how often to use that in Arizona? Right often?

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Speaker 1: He ever reached the heated seat function? I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: in fact, you know what, if they're trying to add

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Speaker 1: I'm not paying for that, dealer, ad On, forget it.

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Speaker 1: So a cold Sunday afternoon and Denver, made even more

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Speaker 1: cold by the fact that the Cardinals lost twenty four

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Speaker 1: to fifteen, officially eliminated from the playoffs. They have now

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Speaker 1: lost five in row. Excuse me, they have now lost

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Speaker 1: four n ROW. Only feels like five NRO and the

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Speaker 1: second straight game, Paul, that this team has lost the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. It was three plays into the game against

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots on Sunday. It was three plays

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Speaker 1: into the second half Coote McCoy knocked out of the

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Speaker 1: literally it flipped. Cardinals couldn't do anything on offense and

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Speaker 1: was game over at that point, as the Cardinals found

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Speaker 1: out the hard way when Trace McSorley came in, they

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Speaker 1: And then they saw him flop back onto his back,

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Speaker 1: Everyone was out there around Cole McCoy. That's the sort

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Speaker 1: And then Kelvin Beecham came off, and then beach was

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Speaker 1: it was Chad Cook, the assistant trainer, raced out he

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Speaker 1: my own power into that locker room. We don't see

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Speaker 1: him again. Head coach Cliff Kingsbury postgame telling you concussion

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Speaker 1: concussion protocol. What that means the rest of this week,

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Speaker 1: McSorley credit. He finished that drive. It ended with a

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Speaker 1: be expected. It's not your backup quarterback. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: I think there were plays to be made, Tracey's accuracy

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Speaker 1: At the same time, you know, if you're telling me

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Speaker 1: Weren't they top two? At last check? Pharrell Cooper was

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Speaker 1: But then you had a Nate Harriston and Manny John.

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Speaker 1: So I haven't gotten updated numbers yet, and Tennessee is

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Speaker 1: There's the strong potential of a different decision maker when

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Speaker 1: it comes to final roster decisions. Based on all the

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Speaker 1: reports we saw over the weekend, multiple reports now from

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Speaker 1: NFL Network that the Cardinals are prepared to move away

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Speaker 1: from Steve Kime. So what exactly does that mean? You know,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports was reporting it as well. We've seen ESPN

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Speaker 1: echoing some of those reports. So you know, when the

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Speaker 1: wording is future certainly in doubt. We'll see when and

435
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Speaker 1: if he ends up coming back. That's the report, word

436
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: for word from NFL Network. I think the players realize that,

437
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's in their best interests more than ever

438
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: to put good play on film, because who knows who's

439
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: gonna be looking at that film a month from now. Well,

440
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: and it's not just those young players, but how about

441
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Speaker 1: some of those veterans. Is there going to be in

442
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: next season? Is there going to be a team that

443
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Speaker 1: wants you, whether it's if it's not the Cardinals, and

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Speaker 1: if it's someone else. And I'll go back to JJ

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Speaker 1: Watt and just what he was able to do in

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Speaker 1: that first half alone. Three sacks, three quarterback hits, three

447
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: tackles for Laws, one force fumble, and one past defense

448
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: which really was a bat down at the line of scrimmage,

449
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Speaker 1: but it goes as a past defense. That was all

450
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Speaker 1: in the first half. Paul. It reminded me of Chandler

451
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Speaker 1: Jones at Tennessee. It really did. I just the crazy

452
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Speaker 1: amount of place he was making in the sacks he

453
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Speaker 1: was registering the epic five sack game against Taylor Luwan

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Speaker 1: against Tennessee in Week one twenty twenty one. And why

455
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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel and company didn't give Taylor Lawanse some help

456
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Speaker 1: off the edge. I still don't know what they were

457
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: doing to this day. But that game was also notable

458
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: because JJ Watt was miked up and you heard him

459
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Speaker 1: say on the bench, who was not captured on NFL

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Speaker 1: films that opening game against Tennessee where he's yelling at

461
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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, are you serious? Are you serious? Chandler Jones?

462
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Speaker 1: Who as he ended up with five sacks, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: what a lot of players are saying to JJ. And

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Speaker 1: then and he was smiling. Oh my god, he was.

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Speaker 1: He had a wide smile on his face most of

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Speaker 1: that first half as he's piled up. The energy was

467
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Speaker 1: great on the sideline. You would never know that. Okay,

468
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Speaker 1: they're playing out the string. But then we found out

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Speaker 1: after the game. At least you're the one who let

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Speaker 1: me know that there might have been yet another reason

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Speaker 1: there was a smile on the face of JJ Watt.

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Speaker 1: It is going to be a very, very merry Christmas

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Speaker 1: for JJ Watt. ESPN's Field Yates tweeted a couple of

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Speaker 1: different times during the course of that game. Bottom line

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Speaker 1: is Watt earned himself almost one million dollars held on

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Speaker 1: that three sack performance. According to field Yates, JJ Watt

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Speaker 1: had a five hundred thousand dollars incentive for surpassing seven

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Speaker 1: sex sting two hundred thousand dollars incentive for surpassing eight

479
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Speaker 1: sex double ding, and another two hundred thousand dollars incentive

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Speaker 1: for surpassing nine sacks and the triple ding. So nine

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. Because right now jj Watt has himself

482
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Speaker 1: nine and a half sacks this season, more than he

483
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Speaker 1: did his previous two seasons combined. He looks very much

484
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Speaker 1: like a player one who has not mailed it in

485
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Speaker 1: and two is looking at next season as well. I'm

486
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Speaker 1: still I still want to play. It might not be here,

487
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Speaker 1: but I still want to play. He's shown that he

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Speaker 1: still has it again. And I'll go back to what

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Speaker 1: you said in training camp when you look at the defense,

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Speaker 1: give me a healthy jj Watt. If jj Watt can

491
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Speaker 1: stay healthy all season long. Paul jj Watt has stayed

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Speaker 1: healthy all season law, even in the light of the

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Speaker 1: fact that he had to have his heart restarted earlier

494
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Speaker 1: this year and then three days later played a game.

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Speaker 1: What did that say to the locker room when the

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Speaker 1: guy had to have it. Basically, they had to take

497
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Speaker 1: out the jumper cables right and jumps start his hard

498
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Speaker 1: and then there he is out on the field three

499
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Speaker 1: days later. So yeah, knock on wood paper product. That

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Speaker 1: is my notebook right now about the rest of the

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Speaker 1: season and staying healthy. You don't get better as a

502
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Speaker 1: team letting your best defensive lineman walk in the off season.

503
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Speaker 1: So I don't care what his age is. There are

504
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Speaker 1: certain guys who defy that number, and his play has

505
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: certainly done that. And as a first time father, you

506
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: know that always brings a little extra motivation, even to

507
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. So I see that in JJ Watt.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully maybe they really like Arizona and they're not all

509
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Speaker 1: that willing and there might maybe just be a little

510
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Speaker 1: extra incentive to not have to pick up and transplant

511
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Speaker 1: themselves cross country. But now with his extra million dollar

512
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Speaker 1: bonus holiday bone us, he can definitely afford a moving company.

513
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: He can definitely afford the four hundred dollar dogwashing service

514
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: that we heard Zach Allen refer to on Hard Knocks.

515
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but it is fun watching him play and

516
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 1: and and then the way guys are acting to him

517
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: on the bench, you know, it's it's basically JJ and

518
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Speaker 1: the backups is what it was on the defensive line

519
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: because of the way everyone was around him, and h

520
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think he enjoys that role

521
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: as well, and he has some great comments at his

522
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: locker correct. Darren Urban asked him about what you tell

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Speaker 1: say to the team, And I asked Aarren after the game,

524
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Speaker 1: I said, did you have knowledge that JJ addressed the

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Speaker 1: team in the locker room? Said no, I just figured

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Speaker 1: he had something to say. Well he did, and he

527
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: did address the entire room after the game and just

528
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: told guys, look, the reality is we're out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: The reality also is that everything you put on film

530
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Speaker 1: is your resume and will be examined, and you got

531
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Speaker 1: to find a way to stay a professional and bring

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Speaker 1: it down the stretch. And and look, we can talk

533
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Speaker 1: about Okay, he's thirty three, and is that really where

534
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Speaker 1: you're going on a team that most realistically could be

535
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: looking at a serious rebuild. Now there's a lot of talent.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what exactly is going to happen in

537
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: the offseason, but there's a difference between partying ways with

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Speaker 1: a Jordan Phillips and a JJ Watt. JJ Watt makes

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00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: everyone better around him. JJ Watt he is truly a

540
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: voice of leadership and is truly an example in that

541
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Speaker 1: locker room. He is more than just a player, more

542
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: than just a name on a depth chart in value

543
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: to that team, unlike someone else you let walk, like

544
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Speaker 1: a Jordan Phillips, who really was additioned by subtraction in

545
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. So when you're trying to assess

546
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: JJ Watt and whether he fits with a team that

547
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: might be in rebuild mode, think of his impact on

548
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: younger players and how he really does go a long

549
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: way and holding everyone else accountable in that room. Look

550
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: no further than Zach Allen, who did not play yesterday

551
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: but certainly has had a career year his past two seasons.

552
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: He's only gotten better now. Zach Allen is going in

553
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: to his free agent offseason as well. He had a

554
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: decision there, which I don't think there is a decision,

555
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: But the question is who's the decision maker, Who's making

556
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: those decisions saying yes, I need player A back now,

557
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: world part ways with player B because there is so

558
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: much uncertainty, and this might be the most uncertain off

559
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: season in recent memory. And I think I've said that

560
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: in prior years going into an off season given the

561
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: number of questions. But you're talking about not only on

562
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: the field, but on the sideline and in the front office.

563
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: Like take Zach Allen for example, I find it somewhat

564
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Speaker 1: mystifying and confounding that he's not currently under contract long term.

565
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Speaker 1: Hasn't everybody's seen enough on Zach Allen? You would have

566
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: think he may not play another snap the rest of

567
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: this year. I have no idea what his real status

568
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: is with that hand injury. Who knows, doesn't matter. You've

569
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: seen enough. You know that he is a standout defensive

570
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: lineman in this league period. He's still has upside, he's

571
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: still evolving, he does all the right things. He's not

572
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: under contract. So if your team Zach Allen right now,

573
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: how much more willing are you to examine the open market?

574
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: You're already there essentially in a lot of ways. Why

575
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: not see what you might get out there? Now? Could

576
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: they potentially franchise him, obviously, but does that make sense

577
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: financially for the team and where they are under this cap,

578
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: especially since that payment of the quarterback is going to

579
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: balloon this coming season. So yeah, it's some of those

580
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: things where I just find it. Byron Murphy, Now, what

581
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: is the status of his back? I have no idea.

582
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: You just pray and hope that it's not something that

583
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: actually impacts the rest of his career. But I think

584
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: over the first half of the season you saw enough

585
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: to know that he's your number one corner and you

586
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: probably would be well served to get him under a

587
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Speaker 1: long term deal, and that neither one of those have happened.

588
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: So to your point about, Okay, the new decision maker

589
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: that comes in, whether it's an Adrian Wilson, whether it's

590
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: a Quint Harris, whether it's from the outside, who knows. Yeah,

591
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: these are things they have to dress immediately if you

592
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: ask me, Because there are pieces, there are parts. This

593
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: was at eleven win team last year. There is talent

594
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: in there, you know. Are they are they doing less

595
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: with more than they did a year ago? Obviously based

596
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: on the record. How much of that has to do

597
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: with injury? How much of that has to do with

598
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: other factors. Let's be honest. How much of the off

599
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: season has impacted the end season play? The off season drama?

600
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph mentioned that six weeks ago or so that

601
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: the off season was non stop with drama and tragedy

602
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: and distractions. How much of that carried into this season.

603
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Don't know, No one knows. There's there's no concrete way

604
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: to assess it. But obviously it wasn't all ball the

605
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: all year. Put it that way. It's been one thing

606
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: after another. There's been hardly a week that has gone

607
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: by where something whether on the field or off the field,

608
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: doesn't pop up, and then players are having to ask

609
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: about it or get asked about it and then put

610
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: forth answers. So this season is winding down for some

611
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: it can't get here soon enough. But again, you're talking

612
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: about three more games, and beginning on Christmas Night, the

613
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers come to town. That is a six

614
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: twenty kickoff Sunday night football one thirty pregame coverage begins

615
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals radio network. And not so much

616
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: a distraction here, Paul, but another another wrinkle in this matchup.

617
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Speaker 1: You're on play by play. Let me just a full

618
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: disclosure right off the top. All right, there's a public

619
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: service announcement. Poly Psa. I'm not poly Pash. I'm most

620
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: definitely not the Great Day pass. So go easy. It's Christmas,

621
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: for peat's sake, people. Okay, So there will be airs,

622
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: there will be blood my own out there on the airwaves.

623
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: We'll give it our best shot. But Dave Pash is

624
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: the classic, the classic guy. Those who do a best

625
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: make it look easy. That is Dave Pash. He's so

626
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 1: good at what he does, and we know we've been

627
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: listening to him for twenty years now, and so we'll

628
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: give it a best shot. It might have the feel

629
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: of a priest. It'll be like a preseason game in

630
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: some ways, featuring Tom Brady. It'll will be a weird dynamic.

631
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: And why is it that I usually get these weird assignments.

632
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: It was twenty and twenty where Covid hit Passion Wolf

633
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: and I was in there. That was the CJ. Bethard game,

634
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: second to last game of the year, and that had

635
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: a preseason energy to it. It was so lackluster and

636
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: the Cardinals lost that game. Then they lost a season

637
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: finale at the Rams and John Wolford the following week.

638
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: The last year was the Christmas Eve game against the

639
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: Colts and that was a loss at home. So you

640
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: know what, Hopefully this isn't the pass factor that we

641
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: created years ago. Coming all the way back to haunt yours, truly,

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Speaker 1: it is the season of giving, and Dave Pash has

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Speaker 1: given you the perfect gift, because what would be better

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Speaker 1: than the Arizona Cardinals beating Brady and the Buccaneers. By

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Speaker 1: the way, tom Brady his first ever regular season game,

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Speaker 1: his first ever regular season appearance inside State Farm Stadium, No.

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Speaker 1: Two super Bowls, but he has never played a regular

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Speaker 1: season game at State Farm Stadium. His last visit to

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Speaker 1: Arizona two thousand and four at sun Devil Stadium, Week two,

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Speaker 1: and it was Larry Fitzgerald's rookie season. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: while think about that, think of how long ago that

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Speaker 1: was two thousand and four at Sun Devil Stadium and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady was the quarterback at that time. But you're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right because New England came into the Monday night

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Speaker 1: game having played more Super Bowl games at State Farm

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Speaker 1: game they had played, Jimmy Garoppolo was the quarterback the

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Speaker 1: season opener two sixteen. So all the expectations going into

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Speaker 1: that year Week one, Patriots come in and no Brady,

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Speaker 1: no Gronkin. Well let's just say it was the Patriots

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Speaker 1: who came out on the right end to that one.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, speaking of quarterbacks, can we cease

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Speaker 1: and desist with a Kyler Murray forecast. He hasn't even

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Speaker 1: had surgery yet, and we're already getting conflicting forecasts out there.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have one from Schefter yesterday that said

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Speaker 1: six to eight months on track to be ready for

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three season. NFL Network is going with, look,

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Speaker 1: it's a clean ACL tear, and then other doctors on

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Speaker 1: Twitter are saying you can't have a clean ACL tear

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Speaker 1: when you also have meniscus damage, and so they're saying

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Speaker 1: it's a nine month recovery. For NFL Network, we'll go

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Speaker 1: into next season. I mean, nobody knows, nobody, but this

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Speaker 1: is this is going to be a big part of

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Speaker 1: the offseason. Just the abject speculation and forecast for Kyler Murrays.

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Speaker 1: Some more responsible than others as to what the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are gonna have in the way of their franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: by the time next September rolls around. Well, funny make

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Speaker 1: for an interesting off season. But before we get to

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Speaker 1: the offseason, this week Christmas Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Much more

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Speaker 1: on that matchup as the week progresses here, and on

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Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive producer

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Speaker 1: Jim Almandro. With Paul Calvisi, I'm Craig Riel Lou. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time here on Cardinals Covered two