WEBVTT - Even Cool Girls Get Lonely with Hoda Kotb…(S5 E2 “Unoriginal Sin”) 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:11.799 you a Charlotte? Hello? Everyone, welcome to Are You a Charlotte? 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:13.920 We are here with a really fun guest. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.480 This week, ho to Copy, and she is going to 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:17.400 talk about. 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:21.800 Her brand and podcast called Joy one oh one it's awesome. 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.239 And also she's going to rewatch episode five oh two 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:30.080 on Original Sin, which is season five, episode two, written 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:34.000 by Cindy Schupack, directed by Charles McDougal. It's a good one. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.920 My entire team is like freaking out that I'm sitting 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.760 here good. Oh sweet. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:42.520 Well, the thing that's funny to me is like coming 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.599 from where we came, like you doing a talk show, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.839 which is a whole different animal, and me doing regular 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.640 film and now we're in podcast world, which is super. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.519 LOOSEI Udy, are you digging it, by the way, I 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:54.960 totally dig it in some ways. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.480 In some ways I'm confused, Like some people just do 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.280 it in their sweat, right, And I'm trying to get there. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.680 But we can't. We can't. We need something. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:04.640 We need a little something right, Like I still put 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:05.440 a little makeup on. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:07.240 I feel right. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.399 I mean, we have our comfy shoes on, busy. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.160 I know I'm with you. I do like the vibe 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.760 of it. I love the vibe. I feel like lax. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.760 And by the way, one of the things that I 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.160 feel like I was missing after leaving the Today Show 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:27.080 was having beautiful conversations because you know, they were so 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.000 baked into either life or just the makeup room or 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.640 somehow you're having these good convos. But now we get 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.840 to sit be curious about each other. We're allowed as 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:38.200 long as. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.640 I'm absolutely that part's amazing. I love I mean, for mine, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.680 I have the rewatch part, which you know, it's like fun, 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:46.720 but also sometimes I'm like, oh, I just want to talk. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:48.840 But it is also fun because it brings up so 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.640 many like the show has so many interesting topics, right, 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:53.880 which is kind of a jumping off point. But the 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.080 thing that's nice for me because I'm a single mom, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.880 I like you, of two children, I don't have this 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.800 time to see my friends and talked to people. Yes, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.160 so it gives you that in your life, this is interesting. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:09.480 I just Marias River posted something and it said life 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.040 in the nineteen twenties and it went through ticking each 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:18.880 year and it had categories friends and family, housework, hobbies, 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.360 blah blah. And then it showed TV kicked in whatever 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.640 in the fifties. Who knows when that happened, So then 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.480 it was like TV. Then you see the shifts of 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:31.520 the categories. But what happened over time was friendships that 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:37.720 were huge dropped so far down because when we see 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.880 someone on Instagram, we're like, oh, we saw they had 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.440 a great vacation. I'll catch up with them, And then 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.919 when you see them, it's almost like second reference. How 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.280 was that? And you're like, I already saw the pictures, 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.640 but how was it? It was fun, true, but anyway, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:54.840 it reminded me that friendships connection that gets buried because 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.399 everything else, even like streaming Netflix, everything was so high, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:04.160 Instagram TikTok so high, but sitting face to face was 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:05.520 near the bottom. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.080 I know, it's so so nice that we found a 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:13.000 job that we can sit and chat and actually have 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.600 a good conversation where you're not trying to get necessarily 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.000 sound bites or whatever you would normally be doing in 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.280 your job. Right, I know it isn't nice. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:22.240 I also feel like it. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.720 Is the wild wild West, Like you're here in New 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.600 York on our same floor. You guys are our studios 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.000 are now next to each other. Studio is also kind 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.760 of a loose term. But when I first came to 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.600 this floor in New York for the iHeart Building, the 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.840 whole floor looked as though like a natural disaster it happened, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.839 and everyone just got it from their desks and ran out. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.360 Did you see now they've cleaned the desks for you, Hoda, 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:43.720 I may. 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.280 Need to know that. I think I might have missed 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:45.800 that window. 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:51.040 I was like, ooh, snacks, I know they have. That's 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.440 for you. It's snacks for you. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:53.280 It's now very nice. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.680 There's now two dressing rooms and two studios. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:56.920 And then some one. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.360 Time I was here and there were three people and 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.360 I was like wow, because when I came, I was 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.600 the first one up here, or at least that I know. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.840 I don't know, probably when I wasn't here. I'm not 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.280 I'm usually in a late as you know. But it 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.680 was like everyone's like, get out of the building and 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.720 they just left all their stuff like it was crazy. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.720 But here we are on the forethront of this crazy 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.360 podcast world. It's really interesting, but welcome. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.680 Thank you. I'm happy with you. 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.159 I was so glad you because I. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.520 Feel like the longest conversations you and I have ever 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.400 had are four minutes, I know, which is today show 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.040 is in and out. We pack a lot in. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.080 It's true, but also there was like the commercial, you 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.440 always feel like you and then there's seeing you in 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.040 the durssing room seeing you know, so you feel, and 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.440 then also over time which is nice, and then I 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.920 would see you in New York sometimes, which is nice, right, 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.839 But I agree, it's nice to have a format where 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.479 you can actually go in depth, yes, and where that's 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.640 actually applauded, you know, And also you can just go 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.239 wherever you feel like going, I mean, especially on yours, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.200 because you don't have. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.240 I love by the way, I love it so much. 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.320 I feel like everyone's like, no one has an attention span, 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.520 you know, eight seconds on TikTok. I'm like, yeah, And 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.839 people like to sit and listen to a good conversation. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.560 As long as it's good, they'll sit and listen. I 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.040 will too. I'm the same. I feel like I don't 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.000 have time, but when I'll stop in my tracks when 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.920 I hear a great convo. That's true. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.400 But also the great thing about podcasts you don't have 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.120 to stop like I do. The laundry and listen to 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.599 my podcast. I drive and listen to my podcast. I'm 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.920 not into the watching yet. I understand there are people 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.400 who are into watching those people. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:30.880 I'm with you audio. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.760 With the new video or videos, the new audio or whatever. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:33.640 But I listen. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.440 But you can listen and function. But yet your brain 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.560 is engaged in a way, or you're not so bored. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.240 Your chores, you know. I love that too. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.160 And also driving if you get stuck, because I'm in 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.680 La right, you might get stuck having to go somewhere far. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.480 I know, and why not. I mean, look, I feel 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.400 like you get to live one life and I get 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.560 to live one life, and the only time we get 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.680 to see beyond that is when we are listening to 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.200 someone else's life experiences and to be able to go, well, 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.159 I don't know that I'll ever live that. But I 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.000 just learned a lesson that Kristen learned, or I just 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.560 figured out something, or I like how this person described 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.200 how they started their day and I kind of dig that, 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.440 like I'm going to try that tomorrow, or just things 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.960 that you can take I feel like. And then I'm 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.960 someone who's always blabbing, I'm like, oh my god, guess 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.160 what I heard, like as if I had invented whatever. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.840 The jewel was. That's great though, So wait, just tell 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.680 our listeners because we're obviously we're over here in my world. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:30.719 Now we're going to go to your world. Lift, tell 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.960 our listeners a little bit about Joy one on one. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.839 So Joy one on one is a company that I 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:40.200 founded a year and change ago, Okay, right after I 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.520 left the Today Show, which was kind of a big, huge, 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.680 huge step for me. Yeah, and also a step that 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.440 was exactly right for me. And the way I know 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.800 when I've made a right decision in my life is 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.159 if I can sleep. If I can sleep, then I 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.040 know I've made the right decision, matter how difficult the 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.680 decision is. And I'm a person that once I make 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:10.120 the decision, it's done. I've in any job I've ever 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.400 been in, I've never gone, oh, let me see what's 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.280 happening back there so I can figure out if I 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.120 should have stayed on that train or on this train. No, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.080 because I think you almost have to decide I agree 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.960 and go straight before you have to make it work. Yeah, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.520 you choose, And I feel like life is a series 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.320 of choices. So I also knew when I was leaving 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.000 the Today Show that there was something else that I 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.960 wanted to do. And I think, once you know something 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:42.040 that's been bubbling up, and for me, wellness was Wellness 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.440 is such a buzzword and everyone's in it or talking 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.000 about It's almost like you yawn, You're like and a 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.160 wellness company. And I was like, oh, good, good for you. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.840 But this, to me is more than that because the 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.320 thing I loved about the Today Show the most was 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.000 the joy piece, Like I felt like it was a 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.600 place where you could find it, find joy, bring joy, 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.640 and joy comes in. There's joy in sports, there's joy 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.880 in music, there's joy and meditation, there's joy in all 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.440 these different parts of you. So I said to myself, 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.400 I have one, you know, I get one ride around 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.440 the sun. That's it. So what do I want to do? 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.720 I want to fill people's cup. Like I don't look, 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.920 I don't care about how much something makes. I couldn't 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:33.000 give a rip. What I really want to do is 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.280 leave this Whenever I leave this earth, I want it 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.360 to be like, Wow, they gave back, they helped out, 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.959 they did something, they made someone feel better, because otherwise, 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:47.720 what's the point. Honest to God, like, what are we doing? 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.840 And so I so I said, let's start a company 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.559 called Joy one oh one that has all these facets 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.760 to it. It's a place where people can go on 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.840 beautiful retreats and feel totally try transformed. Not like where 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.640 you get a goodie bag and feel like you had 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.200 a massage and heard someone great speak that was amazing, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.360 Not that okay, the kind that is immersive that when 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.800 you leave you say to yourself, oh my gosh. That 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:18.920 was one of these transformational experiences. And we put on 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.240 one of these retreats, and we have another one that's 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.920 coming up, two more of their scheduled. And I tell you, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.520 I've been to a ton of retreats. I don't know 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:31.320 if you I love them. This one, by far was 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.360 like transformational. And we had two hundred and fifty women 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:40.440 two hundred of them wound up on a Facebook group 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.240 together Wow without our help. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:42.960 Amazing. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.720 But it just showed the power of it. And we 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.920 did things. We did breath work, We had incredible We 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.800 had all kinds of transformational things that were next level. 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.960 We did one breath work class where everybody sat in 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.480 chairs opposite a stranger. Oh my, and you start the 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.840 breath work with this guy named Anthony, and you breathe 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.080 in and out, and you thought, oh, well, what's this 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:04.840 going to be about? So what you know, breathe in 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.680 and out. I've been breathing for sixty one years. But 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.160 as you're doing it, you realize that something starts bubbling 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.679 up and he's speaking about you know, the topic here 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.000 is forgiveness. So you breathe. You're looking at a stranger's eyes, 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:21.000 and you go through this process and then he says, okay, 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.080 now stand up. Now you move down a chair, and 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.120 now you look at someone new when you were finished 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.680 with this exercise that looks just like, huh, I wonder 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:34.160 what this is. I cannot tell you what happened. One 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.800 woman said, I haven't cried in five years. I feel 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.440 like a bottleneck. I couldn't. One person said that my 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.400 husband was going through a difficult period and I didn't 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.280 even think I wanted to come, but I feel replenished, renewed. Anyway, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.720 So these these retreats, and we have great speakers and 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.360 we do all the rest too, and music and all 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.880 the things nice. But so anyway, it was a way. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.720 This company was a way for me to do all 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.120 the things I want to do. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:03.520 Amazing people out, Yeah, amazing. So you have retreats and 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.480 then you have you drive people around in a. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.880 Car, people around in a car. We all joy right, okay, 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:10.559 joy rides. 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.120 So it's kind of like a conversation but maybe not 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.120 as long as your podcast. And then you also have 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:16.160 a podcast. 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:17.880 And I have a podcast too, and then we do 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.520 We're doing all kinds of really cool and interesting things 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.319 that I think are going to be helpful to people. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.880 And I feel like again, like you know, I got 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.120 to a certain age and I was like, why don't 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.559 I feel the way I want to feel? Like I 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.920 haven't changed anything? I meaning broccoli, I'm like spinning at 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:41.200 soul cycle. I still don't have the sparkle and what 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.679 is that? And is it findable? And the answer to 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.360 me is yes it is. There are so many different 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.760 avenues to try and there's so many solutions that are 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:50.079 out there. 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.680 Do you think, because it's interesting when you were telling 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.040 me the different adjectives that you would perceive that you're 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.480 doing that a lot of them are kind of service related. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.000 Do you feel you know, is that thing Over talks 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.800 about about like different people have different kind of you know, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.880 things that are going to you know, satisfy them or 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.520 please them or you know, give them deep deep of 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.960 deep feeling of satisfactor faction. Do you feel service? Is 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:13.520 that for you? 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.400 Yes? Is Yes. I do feel like that's a big 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.600 part of me. Yeah. I think it's like you know, 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.360 when you when somehow you feel better and then you 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.200 see your best friend or your sister or somebody doesn't right, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.440 and you're like, we could, let's let's help here, right, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.600 there are things we can do help, Yes, And I 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.720 just feel like we're you know, it's the whole mister 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.360 Rogers like, look for the helpers. I feel like that's 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.200 what I want us to be, right, and I want 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:41.720 to be and I want my kids to be I 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.160 want kids to be those kind of people. So I 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.240 do think services is the way that ID lean. And 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.560 I also think we all deserve to feel good. Not 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.800 everything is about oh so you're sixty whatever and of 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.760 course you're feeling terrible. Well actually, no, let's subject that 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.480 we don't think so no, no, yeah. 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.520 Well that's kind of like that thing that society is 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.840 going to kind of push on you to some extent. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.840 And I also think that the wonders of social media 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.200 are that you can connect with people. But then sometimes 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:15.040 the negative voices seem to gain power or the algorithm 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:19.319 reward or something. So sometimes that can also be negative 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.160 stuff coming at you about age, about whatever, you know 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.280 what I'm saying, rather than the helpful part, which I 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:27.160 think you have to look for. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.959 Yes, And I think it's funny. It's like that whole 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:34.400 like whatever you put in becomes you. And it's so true. 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.760 And I've you know, we've all gone through seasons where 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.360 sometimes you're just in a funk, right and. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:44.320 You're burnt, are burnt out entire life, like we're going 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.040 going doing doing, we're not really thinking about filling the cup. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.680 As you said, you know, everyone needs their cup to 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:52.120 be filled. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.480 And I think it is like whatever you're you know 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.559 how what kind of moods you're in, look at your algorithm. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.679 Whatever you're getting overdosed on, that's on you, because that 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.880 means that's where you're stopping, that's where you're lingering, that's 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:07.280 what you're interested in, right, and you really we all 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.480 have to change our algorithm because I mean, look, you 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.960 can have an algorithm full of you know, people giving 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.839 money away to somebody and a beautiful affirmation and oh 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.040 my god, FIFA they scored and the guy's giving his 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.640 shirt to a competitive team. But they're all hugging, like 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.800 you can have that algorithm definitely and see the world 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.480 in that beautiful way. I was just my mom is 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:34.520 in an assisted living place, and I was I went 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.880 to speak bragging at their place. And as I was speaking, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.920 we were talking about how we all view the world. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.840 And a woman walked up to me and she handed 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.480 me She said, will you sign my book? You know 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:46.800 I had a book some books you will you sign 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.560 this from me? I said, oh sure, Joes I had mine. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.400 I said, oh, I want, I want to see. So 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.440 it was a poetry book and this woman named Peggy 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.520 is a poet. And on the back of the book 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.080 where it was a published book, where all of these 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.640 beautiful poets who had talked about her incredible writing. And 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.480 I thought, sitting here, you know, in this nice place, 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.320 but this woman who has all of this beautiful knowledge 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.520 and all of this stuff, and the way she sees 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.000 the world is with beauty, someone else might look out 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.120 at the same out of the same window and say, oh, 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:22.840 what a terribly cloudy day. And she would write a 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.320 poem about it. That would be something captivating interesting just 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.720 thinking about, like you know, any like, look, you and 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.280 I could both be sitting in these chairs and we're 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:36.400 living in two different worlds and here we are absolutely yether, 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:37.520 one hundred percent, and. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.200 Yes, yes, I mean this is true all the time. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.720 I think, right, like people are in their own existence, 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.880 and there's a lot that goes into that, and you 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.080 never really know what's going on with people. And I 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.560 do think also like you could only really control your 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.720 own world and what you're putting back out into the world, right, 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.600 and sometimes there's like too many like horrible, horrible things 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.920 are happening to people, right and you can't necessarily just 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:04.440 change that, as much as we would like to and 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:05.680 as much as we all want to try. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:07.880 But you can create. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.000 Something positive that people can come to, which is what 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.840 you've done with Joe warn One, which I love, and 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.120 just in life, you can create something like I was 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.520 I saw something I can't remember. Oh it's someone that 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.280 I follow, actually, this young man in South Carolina. He 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.760 has this dog and that I have dogs and elephants 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.240 and cats on my feed currently and almost always. But 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.000 he was so sweet. He was talking about how he 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.960 had gone through this really hard since twenties, right, he 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.720 was talking about He's gone through this really hard time. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.760 And then he really felt like, I've got to pull 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.600 myself out of this depression. I'm just so depressed. I 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.920 can't get out of the house. I'm just really down. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:46.320 And he said, I'm just going to start complimenting strangers. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.320 That was the first step he made. Wow, isn't that 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:50.520 so interesting? 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.760 He just in line at the grocery store and he 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.640 turned to this really much, much much older woman and 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.520 told her she liked he liked her dress, and he 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.880 said she looked at him like he was insane, but 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.760 that you know, once he just let it like stood 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.040 there enough so that she realized that he wasn't like 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.800 crazy or going to hurt her whatever. I mean, reason 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.679 is a weird thing, right that once she realized he 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.080 was just being genuine and wanted to say something positive, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:18.919 that it really meant a lot to her, and that 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.439 it kind of derailed her day. That is in a 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:25.080 positive way, isn't it. He's changed the simple things. Yeah, right, 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:26.640 that was his first step, and then there's a lot 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.040 of other steps that he made after that. 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.000 Once he started feeling better, and. 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:31.440 It was so great that he was talking about it 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.560 because he's young and he doesn't it's not like he's 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.040 practiced her worldly or whatever. But he's just like working 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.199 on himself in a way and trying to put it 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:41.080 out there in the world. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:53.120 And I'm so oppressed with that. The thing that. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.239 Also comes to my mind as you're talking about this 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.760 is that in this episode, because you have very generously agreed, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:03.360 of course, you rewatch Unoriginal Sin, which is a super 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.960 fascinating episode, and in it, Charlotte goes to a self 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.879 help thing. I'd totally forgotten about this. 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.399 By the way, I was so connecting with Charlotte. And 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.280 first of all, can I just say Sex and the 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.840 City premiered in ninety eight. That was the first year 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.280 I moved to New York and started working at Dateline, 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.640 and was, by the way, when I got to New York, 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:29.119 I arrived from New Orleans scared of everything. Wow, couldn't 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.080 understand how to navigate New York, terrifying. It's a lot, 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.200 it's a lot. My mom came to help me move 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.280 into my apartment. I had an apartment on eighty first, 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.440 and as I was there, I said, I don't know anybody, 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.840 and I don't know how anyone ever knows anybody. Yeah, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:49.680 and within I don't know how long my mom knew 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.560 the guy who ran the bodega. The Starbucks barista had 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.520 her order, Wow, this is my daughter. This is how 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.000 she's kind. And I was like, wait, what's happening. My 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.840 mom's introduced And then I realized you only had to 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:08.000 know your singular block and then you had a neighborhood. Yeah. 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.840 But Sex and the City was like almost like a 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:15.040 warm blanket because I was like, wait, how to people? 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.800 And then I watched you guys and I was like, wait, okay, 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.400 so these are four cool girls who are navigating through 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.600 They're all different and I so I had such a 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.080 kind of warm blanket feeling because I used to sit 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.320 in coffee shops alone because I didn't know with e 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:33.840 like a read the paper or read a book. I'm like, 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.040