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Here's 11 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: a new one from Steve Rutledge, who's emailed us before. 12 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Good to hear from you, Steve readings, gents, catching up 13 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: on episodes and just heard Brad Thor By the way, 14 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: I'll jump in here if you guys haven't heard the 15 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Brad Door episode, that's episode three sixty six. Check it out. 16 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: Great episode, relatable topics as my son is deployed to 17 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Europe with the first CAV for Operation Atlantic Resolve a 18 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: k A rush into Terrence won't give locations, etcetera for 19 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: OPSEC reasons. Interesting to hear his take, and he writes 20 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: as well. 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I think the first thing 79 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: that we have to mention though, and definitely get out 80 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: of the way is just rest in peace. The John McCain, 81 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: and I think this audience, the people have been on 82 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: this show, really do revere him as a hero. Um. 83 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: One of the things that I've seen so many people 84 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: say over these past few days is it's like, I 85 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: don't agree with the man on everything, but I respect 86 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: his service. Respect what he did in Vietnam, being tortured 87 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: um by you know, at the Hannoi Hilton, the way 88 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: he did, and and you know, standing up for his guys, 89 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: basically everything that that Senator McCain went through. The thing 90 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: for me is I feel like saying I don't agree 91 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: with everything that he did, it kind of goes on said, man, 92 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: how many people did agree with John mccainn and everything. 93 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I think unless your Lindsey Graham, like 94 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: everybody had differences with this man on politics, but the 95 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: way he lived his wife is it was truly heroic 96 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: and a life of service. I would say, yeah, man, 97 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's totally it. I Mean, the the 98 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: whole point of opposition, you know, in politics, in an 99 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: ideal scenario is to have a you know, ideally you 100 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: having a mutual respect for whoever you're up against, whether 101 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: it's people and on the opposite political party, or people 102 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: in your own political party that you feel like are 103 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: taking it in a direction that you don't want to. Um, 104 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: you know, everybody can. I feel like always progress and 105 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: move forward if there's a sense of respect. Um. And 106 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: I think McCain certainly earned, you know, quite a bit 107 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: of respect for for all the reasons that you're talking about. 108 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: I remember I remember hearing a lot about him when 109 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I was in in a series school. Um. You know, 110 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: he's sort of a the poster child of of of resistance, 111 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, And I mean, how how how long was 112 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: I in? And uh, he was a pow in Vietnam 113 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: like five years, I think five and a half years. 114 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's insane. I mean Syria, you know, 115 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: you're it's it's a school that you know that's gonna end, 116 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: and it still sucks. But man, suddenly, I I can't 117 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: even fathom, you know, spending five and a half years 118 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: in captivity like that, and that's insane. Yeah, it is. 119 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: And I think like his story is just such a 120 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: true American story. I stopped people posting um pictures with him. Um. 121 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: I never got to meet Senator McCain, but I did 122 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: see him speak in New Hampshire. I went to New 123 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: Hampshire during the two thousand and eight presidential primary. I was, 124 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: I'll openly say it was a big Ron Paul guy. 125 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: At the time. I still am I lover Ron Paul Um. 126 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: But I got to see several people speak, including John McCain. Uh. 127 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: And the thing that really stood out to me about 128 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: seeing John McCain was, I remember there was a group 129 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: of protesters, I think there were anti war protesters who 130 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: came out and he was giving a speech which was 131 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: going to be followed by a Q and a session, 132 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: and it was in just some school gymnasium. Uh. And 133 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: during the speech, these people just interrupted, got up and 134 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: security got ready to kick them out. And like, as 135 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: you can imagine today, if that was certainly, if that 136 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: was Donald Trump, he'd say get these people out of here. 137 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: I could see Hillary Quinton very much saying getting to 138 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: get these people out of here. Maybe not as strong 139 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: of language as Donald Trump. But the difference that I 140 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: saw was John McCain actually insisted to security. He was like, nope, 141 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: let these people stay. And you know, if they could 142 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: sit down and be quiet everybody else they could ask 143 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: me questions after and like to me, that was just 144 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: a class act. And he not only answered like a 145 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: ton of questions. And by the way, I saw Barack 146 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: Obama in New Hampshire that year, who just did a speech, 147 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: didn't do a Q and a um. But McCain answered 148 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: a ton of questions and he even gave people like 149 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: follow up questions. And there were people that he said like, look, 150 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: if you don't have the same position as me, maybe 151 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm not the candidate for you. But he was totally 152 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: candid with his answers um and I think everybody who 153 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: asked a question felt pretty fulfilled and took pictures after. 154 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: I have friends that I went to college with who 155 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: got a picture with John McCain, and uh, you know, 156 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: just seeing that day really stood out to me. And 157 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: it was one of those things where I just think 158 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: he's a guy who people who met him. It definitely 159 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: seems like people who served with him in the Senate 160 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: he earned their respect. Yeah, I mean, Senator McCain is 161 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: a is no doubt. It was a very print old 162 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: guy and and I think one of the things missing 163 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: in American politics these days is somebody with an ethical backbone. 164 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: And you know, at there are points where you wish 165 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: that you would have someone with an ethical backbone that 166 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily agree with all the policies that you want, 167 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: but you just wish that they actually, you felt that 168 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: they actually truly, honestly, you know, cared about whatever it 169 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: is that they're talking about. And you know, I think 170 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: one one indicating factor of that is is that there 171 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: their ideologies don't necessarily line up with their party all 172 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: the time. So you know, McCain, Senator McCain was he 173 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: he'll be, he did, he did quite a He did 174 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: quite a few things that it was necessarily not popular 175 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: among his circles. I mean, the one that comes to 176 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: mind was, and this is obviously based on his experience 177 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: as his very very staunch um, what's the word is 178 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: staunch opposition two any kind of torture and water boarding 179 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: and stuff like that in in during all the talk 180 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: about Guantanamo Bay, and and that was in two thousand 181 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: and four, two thousand and five, I think, Um, but yeah, 182 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean, and obviously, and that's based off of life experience, 183 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: and I think that's absolutely fundamentally important in having that 184 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: ethical backbone, is is having real world experience, having experience 185 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: where you got your hands dirty, you've got your you know, 186 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: you're you've been in the mud and in the trenches 187 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: at some point in your life. And you know, you 188 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: can say a lot about Senator McCain and very um 189 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: disagree with him quite a bit like I do on 190 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: a few things, but you know, he's a principled guy 191 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of that comes out of his personal experience. 192 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: And I definitely can disagree with someone and respect them. 193 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: And I mean, honestly, personally, I agreed with probably a 194 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: lot more than I disagreed with. But you know, I 195 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: just I think I think a lot of people are 196 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: talking about that now upon his his death, because it's 197 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: something that we're yearning for. It's something that you know, 198 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: the first video that that went viral that I saw 199 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: after his death was was of of him talking about 200 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: Obama with you know that that ladies asking him have 201 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: you seen that video and making the rounds. Yeah, it's 202 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: making the rounds again, and you know, the people, I 203 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people yearned for that now. 204 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: And for people who don't know what we're talking about, 205 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: it's it's the video with the woman, older woman saying, 206 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, I can't trust Barack Obama he's a Muslim, 207 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: he was, Yeah, he's Arabic. Yeah, And Senator McCain's like, 208 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: it's like, no, he's a he's a decent man, he's 209 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: a family man. We just disagree politically, and you know, 210 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: there's no question as to his opposite and toward Obama, 211 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: but whether he's gonna run race against him, he's going 212 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: to do it in a way that is fitting of 213 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: of you know, of of what he believes to be 214 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: a US politician ought to be. Yeah. I was just 215 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: gonna jump in there and say, which is very different 216 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: from like, look this audience, whether you support President Trump 217 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: or not, it's extremely different than the way he would 218 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: handle a question like that, Like it goes without saying yeah. 219 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean the last election everyone knows was a knife fight. Yah. Um, 220 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: you know it was. It was pretty brutal, so um yeah, 221 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just it's something that I you know, 222 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: I wish would be more more common. Someone someone can 223 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: can run, you know, with a level of respect and 224 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: and like yeah, like I always saying, having an ethical backbone. 225 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, these guys 226 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: in government, they have to work with each other, and 227 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: we sometimes lose eight of that because it's it's become 228 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: like the w W E. It really has become like 229 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: this soap opera of sorts. And you know, I remember 230 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: my friend um Rick Unger, who hosted Steal and Hunger, 231 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: former CEO of Marvel Entertainment Group. He's been on actually 232 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: with Brandon before. Um great guy, but when he was 233 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: doing Steal and Hunger, you know, Rick is a independent 234 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: democ independent. I don't actually know if he's a registered Democrat, 235 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: but I was gonna say it's like an a left 236 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: leaning guy. He's by no means like a hardcore progressive 237 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but he means left, just like 238 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: Michael Steele, his co host, was right leaning, but I 239 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't say super conservative or anything. Um. So, they had 240 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: some member of the House on the on the show 241 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: at one time and he said to Rick like, I 242 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: didn't go to Washington, d C. To work with Democrats. 243 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: And Rick was like, well, then why are you there? 244 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: And I think people do need to realize that like 245 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: whatever you're, wherever you stay, and politically, like these guys 246 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: are supposed to be making deals and working together. That's 247 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: how this country works best. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean 248 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: and and I think that's something we need to all 249 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: kind of realize again, you know. And I from what 250 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: I understand about American history, it's been something that we 251 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: all have needed to realize over and over again. Um. 252 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: You know, this certainly isn't hasn't been the last, the first, 253 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: nor will it be the last super controversial, brutal election. 254 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I think people at the end of 255 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: the day need to realize that in order to move forward, 256 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: you're going to have to work together. You're either moving 257 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: towards in amicable future or you're moving toward a violent future. 258 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: And it's one or the other. And I'm not saying, 259 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, the Civil War two point oh is around 260 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: the corner or anything. But you you're either headed in 261 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: one direction or you're headed in the other. I that's 262 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: what That's what a lot of people who have spent 263 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: their careers building bridges understand, People like you know, Martin 264 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: Luther King Jr. Um, you know, but Katie Washington as 265 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: a hero mine, uh, you know, and and and honestly, 266 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, Senator McCain certainly made made a lot of 267 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: efforts in that regard. Um. I just know, as a 268 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: student of history, you know, when people look at the 269 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: greatest times in this country, it was when there was 270 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: some opposition and you know, groups working together. People always 271 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: say Bill Quentin working with Newt ging Rich, people say 272 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan working with Tip O'Neil. Those are like the 273 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: times that Americans celebrate as as like some of the 274 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: best years of this country. So I think John McCain 275 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: had foresight of that. And and by the way, if 276 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: people are listening, they're they're like, oh, you must be 277 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: this like giant John McCain fan. I'm not by any means. 278 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: I just I think that certain things about his philosophy 279 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: showed that he was a man who had experience and 280 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: like the foresight to see what some of the things 281 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: of this country needed. Yeah, and it's okay too, you know, 282 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: you're not You're not necessarily looking at someone's whole history 283 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: with rose tinted glasses just because you know, you say 284 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: positive things about them. It's okay for the country to 285 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: be in mourning for a great public servant that that 286 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: undoubtedly served his country for years and years and years 287 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: and years. And you don't have to be his biggest 288 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: supporter in order to appreciate that. Yep, I agree. So 289 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: rest in peace, Senator John McCain. Uh. Now, let's get 290 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: into your book. So, the First Marauder is available now 291 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: on Amazon dot com. It's the first book of an 292 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: upcoming trilogy. I have not read the book, but from 293 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: what I've read, this is almost one of those zombie 294 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: apocalypse end of the world type books, right. Yeah, it's 295 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: a viral apocalypse. So basically, an an unknown weaponized virus 296 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: has wiped out a huge population of the world. And 297 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: it's set four years after that opened. And there's a kid, 298 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: his name's Tyler Ballard. He's fifteen, and he's so many 299 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: people have died that he's the only person that he 300 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: knows who has a living family member left, and it's 301 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: his brother. And his brother is killed. This is before 302 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: the beginning, like right before the beginning. His brother is 303 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: killed by a nearby town. Um as these two talents 304 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: Tampa while East Tampa. It's it's whittled down to just 305 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: a portion of Tampa, East Tampa and a nearby town 306 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: of Lakeland, and they're skirmishing over resources, is essentially what's happened. 307 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: And during a raid, Tyler's older brother is killed, and 308 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: so the minimum age to join the Tampa militia is sixteen, 309 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: so he lies about his age and joins the militia, 310 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: hoping to find revenge. But um he A lot of 311 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: this book is about the discovery of war. And you know, 312 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: a fiction really can dramatize reality. It can tell certain 313 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: stories that that just you know, rehashing some acts, can't 314 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: it can, you know, especially like emotional truths, um and 315 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: And this is a lot about the It's kind of 316 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: a dark story. It's you know, the main character is fifteen, 317 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: but it's not it's not really geared towards teenagers so much, 318 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: but it's it's it's about the discovery of war through 319 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: the eyes of a of you know, essentially a child. 320 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm I combine a lot of my 321 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: own experiences into this book. I you know, obviously my 322 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: my deployments to Afghanistan. I put in there these these 323 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: sort of these um you know, my my personal discovery 324 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: of war. And it's it's not like I'm I'm retelling 325 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: firefights or something like that in here. It's it's more, 326 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: you know, that feeling of of the first time you know, 327 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: you hear gunshots go off, that feeling, you know, the 328 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: first time you see someone get shot or you know, 329 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: your friend gets shot or something like that. You know, 330 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: these these really deep seated feelings and what you do 331 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: with all that, you know, the emotions that you how 332 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: do you deal with these emo and how do you 333 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: deal with it during combat? How do you which is 334 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: you just push it down and push it away and 335 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: keep doing your job, which is basically what you do. 336 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: But um, you know, how do you deal with that later? 337 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Do you deal with it later? And do you just 338 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: keep pushing it down forever? And I was also in 339 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: a school shooting when I was in eighth grade, and 340 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: uh so I kind of integrate that because he's he's 341 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: a little bit older than I was during that. But 342 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: in this book, but um, you know that again, child 343 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: discovering the nature of war is kind of a rude 344 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: awakening from I mean, he's already survived this terrible apocalyptic event, 345 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: so he already knows a little bit about things. But 346 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's one thing to see that another 347 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: thing too actually be actively a part of this in fighting. 348 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: I think we we went in depth on, you know, 349 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: the school shooting that you experienced the first time you 350 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: were on But yet it does seem like something that 351 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: that would inspire this book. Are you a fan of 352 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: The Walking Dead and World War Z and all that 353 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: type of stuff? Was that in influence? Yeah? I like, 354 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: I like a lot of post apocalyptic stuff. I I 355 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, I was on the zombie train at first, 356 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: just like everyone else, and probably like everyone else now 357 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm just sort of, you know, maybe a little bit 358 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: taxed on it. Um. I don't know that I would 359 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: ever write or you know, make any sort of zombie story. 360 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: And myself, um I I really what fascinates me is 361 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: the breakdown of society while still using modern weapons of war. 362 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: So you know, this this this idea that, um well, 363 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: and I think that's that's sort of our whole current 364 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: society's fascination with post apocalyptic fiction. You know, all these 365 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: movies like The Book of Eli or Yet, like you're saying, 366 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: the Walk of Dead, Walking Dead, and um, you know, 367 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: all the Resident Evil movies. I mean, I'm sure you 368 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: could probably you you look up a list and you 369 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: can probably rattle off twenty post apocalyptic stories. And I 370 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: think our society has a sort of fascination with that. 371 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: And you know, I've been I've been kind of wondering 372 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: why recently. One theory I have is that you sort 373 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: of law. Not nobody actually longs for that to happen, 374 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: but people have like this, this fantastical idea. They like 375 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: to as a thought experiment. They like to think about it, 376 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: partially because we are delving further and further into a 377 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: world of comfort. So it's sort of the opposite end 378 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: of the spectrum. So when people are are struggling more, 379 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: you might start to see fiction that is the opposite 380 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: of that, you know what I mean. You might just 381 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: start to see fiction, maybe science fiction like Star Trek 382 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: type stuff where where people are generally okay as far 383 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: as society at large goes um. But I don't know exactly. 384 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: I guess that there is definitely a fixation these days 385 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: that did not exist before on post apocalyptic stuff, and 386 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely a part of that. It's interesting you you 387 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: said that, because I thought you were going to go 388 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: to the opposite direction and say that the reason people 389 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: are so fascinated with this is how polarize the world 390 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: is now. It's like, you know, it's really two sides 391 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: of the spectrum. If you're a Trump supporter, you're on 392 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: one side. If you know you're a liberal or progressive, 393 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: you're on the other side, and like it really is 394 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: like a civil war happening. But I think that's another 395 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: perspective for sure, that everything is getting so easy. You 396 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: you literally do not have to leave your house anymore. 397 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: You could have everything delivered right to you. Um, everything 398 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: from food to uh, pretty much any anything that you 399 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: would need around your house. Um. So I agree we 400 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: are getting softer, we are getting lazier. I wonder if 401 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: people almost feel like becoming a prepper and you know, 402 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: getting into all of that and and learning how to 403 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: be self reliant is like a throwback to another time 404 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: because I don't know, some people probably think those skills 405 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: are not necessary, but there there certainly could be a 406 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: time where, you know, it'll be good to have those skills. Well, people, 407 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: people don't understand. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm 408 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: not a doomsday say or anything like that. You know, 409 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't necessarily think what's that you 410 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: don't believe we're gonna be set the FEMA CA Yeah right, 411 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, and um, but I do think that society 412 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: at well, American society at large, does not quite grasp 413 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: how close civil Western civilization is constantly two to devolving 414 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: into violence and medieval sort of you know state. Um. 415 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: And it takes a lot of effort, and people make 416 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: that that effort, you know, and that's part of what 417 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: why this country is awesome. You know, people are constantly 418 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: making that effort to keep us from from devolving into 419 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: a state like that. But I think, deep down, you know, 420 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: people know that we as human beings on sort of 421 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: on sort of a philosophic level, are really pretty close 422 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: to always devolving back into these animalistic, violent creatures. And 423 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: you know that this fiction, always fiction can either serve 424 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: as a longing or it can serve as um you know, 425 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: a reflection of of different traits that you know, a 426 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: society or a culture or a civilization has deep down, 427 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: um And and that's definitely part of it. And as 428 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: to your point before, definitely in the first mander So, 429 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: I usually describe it as the discovery of war and politics. 430 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: So it's about him discovering the nature of war, but 431 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: he's also discovering the politics on a small scale of 432 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: these towns throughout because he gets kind of mixed up 433 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: in in the higher level of politics as time goes on, 434 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: of both towns and he starts to see the you know, 435 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: just how things really work when it comes to politicians 436 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: and when it comes to the soldiers fighting wars for them. 437 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: And it's not it's not this like, that's not the 438 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: same overdone story of you know, this guy is all 439 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: ideological and then by the end he thinks that life 440 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: is terrible. You know, it's not this just pessimistic, uh 441 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: sort of thing where you know, he just gets PTSD 442 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: and shakes his fist at the sky and you know, 443 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: and it's like about the life in the world. It's 444 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: it's not quite like that. It deals with a lot 445 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: of those issues. You know, it certainly deals with PTSD, 446 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: but it does it in a way that I feel 447 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: like it is underrepresented in the media and and and 448 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: in fiction. And it's that, you know, in regards to PTSD, 449 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: it's that quiet burden. In regards to politicians, it's that 450 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: nuance and that that uh, those crazy complexities and the 451 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: idea of bureaucracy and and when it comes to war, 452 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's all the obvious complications that come with that. 453 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, and you see it on the internet. 454 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: There's this group of people who kind of glamorizes an 455 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: upcoming apocalypse in the country splitting and everything becoming more 456 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: polarized than it is. You know, you see these people 457 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: saying like, oh, I wish, I I hope I step 458 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: outside and one of these like anti fuck tries to 459 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: funk with me, like I'll murder that type of doing. So, Yeah, 460 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm just curious for you, as someone who has seen 461 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: civil war, who has seen societies where war is really 462 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: happening and it's been in combat, does it kind of 463 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: piss you off that glamorization by people who don't know 464 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: the first thing about war. Yeah. People people who say 465 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: that have no idea what they're talking about, especially when 466 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: it comes to civil war. Civil war. You know, the 467 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: American Civil War is the highest is the highest casualty 468 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: producing war in our history. I mean and um, I mean, 469 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: it's it's something you absolutely do not because those guys 470 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: who who glamorize it or think that kind of stuff 471 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: or just you know, I wish they would kind of people, 472 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: they don't they don't get how that kind of stuff works. 473 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: What would really happen is you know, they get ready ago, 474 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, they got you got all your you got 475 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: whatever you're going you're you get prepared, however you think 476 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna get prepared, and then something totally is gonna 477 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: hit you from left field, like your little brother is 478 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: gonna get accidentally killed by someone who's supposed to be 479 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: on your side, and then what do you do? You 480 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: go shoot that dude, and then you know, I mean, 481 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: it's war is so insanely complicated and things things like 482 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: that happen all the time. People do not understand just 483 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: the sheer amount of of heartbreak, despair and all this stuff. 484 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people think think that it would be, 485 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, some crap shoot, or think that it would 486 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: be some glorious revolution or I don't know what exactly 487 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: they think. But it's not going to be that. It's 488 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: just gonna be bad. Um and and so and I 489 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: think this. I try to reflect that in this book. 490 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: It's not there's nothing good about it in this book. Um. 491 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that there aren't causes worth fighting for, 492 00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: for sure, but yeah, not not. And those people I 493 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: know exactly who you're talking about, and that's not something 494 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: that that uh, it's just not. It never works out 495 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: the way that those types of people I think it would. 496 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: And Honestly, those types of people are probably going to 497 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: be the first people to take a bullet to the 498 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: face anyway. Yeah, all right, So why why a trilogy? 499 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: This is the first of an upcoming trilogy. You're gonna 500 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: do two more books? What made you say that I 501 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: have to do two more books in this series? Um? 502 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: I really, I I am really interested in expanding this 503 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: entire universe. This trilogy is going to span the the 504 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: length of around, let see, around fifty years, this trilogy. 505 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: So and then I'm going to write and then I'm 506 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: planning to write two more books, one really short one 507 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: and one a little bit longer one right after that 508 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: that are completely separate from this storyline. But um, you know, 509 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: in the same universe. I'm really I love world building. 510 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: I love this idea of having a universe and exploring 511 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: it and fielding it and and tinkering with all the 512 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: different facets of this this new world. And people who 513 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: are struggling to you know, some people who are startling, 514 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: struggling to take advantage of the weak and vulnerable, and 515 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: other people who are struggling to try to, you know, 516 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: rebuild what was lost. And you know, I love I 517 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: love that world and I love taking a new, fresh 518 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: take on it, um, And I've been thinking about this 519 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: sort of universe in this world for a really really 520 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: long time and I'm excited to finally be writing about it. 521 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: That's great. So it's the first Marauder. It's available now 522 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: on Amazon dot com check it out. Just came out 523 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: this month, and uh, yeah, I'm excited to hear that 524 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: that you finally got it out there. And as I 525 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: often say to authors on the show, like there's so 526 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: many people who I talked to, there's there's guys who 527 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: have been affiliated with the site. Even if I have 528 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: been put out a book, and they'll say, like, man, 529 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 1: I got they They'll tell me for years they have 530 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: to write a book, but they don't actually get started 531 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: on it. And I think it really takes some purse 532 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: to all um, you know, just just being resilient on 533 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: your own and and also uh just having the self 534 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: discipline to say, I'm gonna self publish this, I'm gonna 535 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: put it out and you don't have anyone on your back. 536 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: You don't have a publisher, you don't have an editor 537 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: giving you a deadline, like you have to do the 538 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: come on your own and not other people are able 539 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: to do it. There are benefits to it, you know, 540 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I've complete creative control to be successful and also to 541 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: totally mess it up down't but um, you know, it's 542 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: it definitely it took a certain amount of discipline, you know. 543 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: I just just plug away at it every day and 544 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: and you know it, and then one day it's you 545 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: get closer and closer and closer, and then you finished 546 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: the first draft, and then then you do I. I 547 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: do like a million million revisions, you know, um, just 548 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: to try to get it as good as I possibly can, 549 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, try to refine out all the details, whether 550 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: it's just normal stuff like writing, you know, technical stuff 551 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: like grammar and whatnot, spelling, but also you know, trying 552 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: to really highlight our outline, or strengthen certain story aspects 553 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: or or strengthen certain characters in different ways that really 554 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: highlight my themes and total overall ideas of the story 555 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And yeah, so it takes definitely 556 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: takes a certain amount of discipline. But it's absolutely possible, 557 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: especially if my rule was just work on it for 558 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: five minutes every day at the very least, and more 559 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: often than not, that five minutes turns into fifteen or 560 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: twenty minutes or an hour or two hours as I 561 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: get sucked into it. But you know, worst case scenario, 562 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: I write a paragraph to paragraphs or edit you know, 563 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: a page or something and I'm done. You know, Hey 564 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: always said it's something very well said. Uh, and that's 565 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: some good advice. I know. Jack recently on the show 566 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: was talking about being a writer and he said, you know, 567 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: just write a page every day and by the end 568 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: of the year you'll have a book. I think what 569 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: you're saying is true, though it's never going to be 570 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: a consistent page every day. I think, as you said, 571 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: if you're writing something good, you're gonna get sucked into 572 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: it at a certain point and you're not gonna want 573 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: to stop. I would think that makes sense. Um, I 574 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: want to get into some news as well. You sent 575 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: me this article from The Independent the U n calling 576 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: for my and mar generals to be prosecuted for genocide, 577 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: war crimes and crimes against humanity. Uh. Now, this is 578 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: something you've been reporting on for a long time now. 579 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: You are an article earlier this year about how doctors 580 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: without Borders were reporting eight thousand, a hundred seventy deaths. 581 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: Earlier this year within a month, over twelve hundred of 582 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: those where children under five, which is absolutely appalling. Um, 583 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: and this is the situation there in mind Mar as 584 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: well as Burma, and I wanted to just get your 585 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: take on this now that the UN is getting involved. Yeah, man, 586 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is an interesting topic to talk about, 587 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: especially in our kind of circles because the way that 588 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: the Burmese governor, the mean Mar Burma is the same thing. 589 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: The way that the mean Mare government sells this is 590 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: as an Islamic extremist problem, you know, and they they 591 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys in are circles understand that, 592 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: and but it's it's really not. I mean, this is 593 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: coming out of state sponsored media organizations and that's it. 594 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, literally every source on the ground I've been there, 595 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: you know a few times, and um, you know, every 596 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: source on the ground that is non state sponsored government 597 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: is you know or non Chinese is basically um corroborating 598 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: all of these horrific things that are happening, which is essentially, yes, 599 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: a legitimate attack on the on the government from this 600 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: group called ARSA. And then the government responds by basically 601 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: this this insanely aggressive just military offensive against civilians, against 602 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: every everyone and anyone Rohina so and that that has 603 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: eventually drove I think it was around Rohinga out of 604 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: their homes, uh the entire population in Myanmar and then 605 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: which amounted to approximately seven thousand Rohinga having to flee 606 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: from their homes over into the border of of Bangladore, 607 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: the Bangladesh border, and which actually isn't This isn't actually 608 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: the first time. That's another thing that the ME and 609 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: MAR government doesn't really tell people is that, I mean, 610 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: they they've been pushing military offensives against civilians for longer 611 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: than I've been alive, for sure, So I mean this 612 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: is this is nothing new. It's just it's the latest 613 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: brand and it is more aggressive than usual. But I 614 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: mean some some estimates are saying that ten thousand people 615 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: were killed in the violence overall. That's in the in 616 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: the latest UN that's a conservative estimate. And the U 617 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: n I have a lot of problems with U and 618 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: especially having worked with and been around the U n 619 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: U UM with aid workers on the ground, but they 620 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: do tend to be pretty accurate in a lot of 621 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: their information fact finding stuff, at least when it comes 622 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: to me and mar Um. You know, I can't speak 623 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: for every country around the globe when it comes to 624 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: that stuff, but when it comes to mean, while a 625 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: lot of their aid reporting and a lot of that 626 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: stuff is is pretty accurate. And for them to say 627 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: what they've been saying, and you know, I'll roll my 628 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: eyes just like the next guy, and that it might 629 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: be just more talk, but I mean this is pretty 630 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: it is pretty significant. I mean, they're they're naming six 631 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: generals by name right now, uh, six military generals, um, 632 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: and you know, for this offensive, that this latest offensive 633 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: that started in August, and that's I mean, that's pretty 634 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: pretty significant. I mean they're they're talking, I mean, and 635 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: their point is is obvious. I Mean, these guys are 636 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: using gang rape as a weapon, They're killing children, they're 637 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: burning entire villages down. I mean, they're doing all this 638 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: crazy stuff, you know, and in response to uh, what 639 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: they have sold as a terrorist threat, you know, they're 640 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: just wiping out civilians. I mean, it's complete, completely unacceptable. 641 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: And so for the UN to take this latest stances 642 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: is good to try and get process acution. And it's 643 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: also indicative of the separation because of of the military 644 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: and the the elected government there. You know, there's a 645 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: huge I mean, imagine our military just being able to 646 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: basically do whatever it wants in America, in our inside 647 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: of our own borders, just sort of rolling around doing 648 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: whatever it wants. In our elected government's kind of like, uh, okay, 649 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: you know cool. Um, you know, they have no control 650 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: over it. And um, there there has been some condemnation 651 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: of of certain figures in the civilian elected government, uh 652 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: that they haven't at least used even the tools that 653 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: they do have to try and stop it. But you know, 654 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a whole mass in the military is 655 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: really quite independent. Um. They they've they've written it into 656 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: their constitution in such a way the military has secured 657 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: for themselves quite a bit of autonomous power. And that's 658 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: a huge root of the problem. Yeah, it's pretty amazing 659 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: how under reported this is. And that's why it's great 660 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: there's people like you who have written all these articles 661 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: because we hear about everything going on in Syria. You know, 662 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: it's it's nonstops what screen debates on TV when that 663 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: blows up. But this is horrific and does not really 664 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: go reported in the mainstream media. No, and it's part 665 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: of it is because like I said before, I mean 666 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: me and Mars first of all, there their media tactics 667 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: are are quite refined because I mean, this is the 668 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: longest standing war and the longest standing civil war in 669 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: modern history. I mean, it's been going on since World 670 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: War Two. There's you know, the fighting has not ceased, 671 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: and it's with different ethnic minorities. The Rhina is just 672 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: one of them. So you're talking about a military push 673 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: against this Muslim minority. Well, you know, it doesn't have 674 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: much to do with the fact that they're Muslim because, uh, 675 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: one of the ones they're focusing on right now is 676 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: like Christian I mean, it's it's not a religious as 677 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, religion doesn't really have a whole lot to 678 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 1: do with it. So, I mean they're they're pushing against 679 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: all these ethnic minorities for for a whole host of reasons. 680 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: Um that I probably it's it's a long and complicated history, 681 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: but essentially it's been going on for so long that 682 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: a they've refined the way that they talk about it 683 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: in the public sphere and be people are just taxd 684 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: to hearing about it. It's more violence in mean Mar, 685 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's how do you report the 686 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: same story or what what appears to be the same story, 687 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: because it's not over and over and over. I mean, 688 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: people don't barely even read the headlines on the war 689 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan and it's our troops that are there so 690 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: many people. You know, a lot of people do, but 691 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people are just tax the Yeah, exactly 692 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: what appears to be the same headline over and over 693 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: and and you know, yeah, sure it might appear that 694 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: way to the average reader, but to the dude on 695 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: the ground or to the you know, the person running 696 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: through the jungle for from their homes, I mean certainly 697 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: not the same wald news for them. Um. And and 698 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: I push this b I guess is pretty pretty significant. 699 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean, seven thousand people being forced from their homes 700 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: and a conservative estimate of ten thousand people being killed 701 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 1: is pretty pretty huge. Um, but insane. Do you see 702 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: any difference really happening though, because we know, you know, 703 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: with our history, the u N calls for things all 704 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: the time, and the u N says a lot, but 705 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: there's really a lot of action. Yeah, you know, the 706 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: ball is really in in China and India's court. In 707 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: my opinion, I mean, the US has has implemented some 708 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: harsh sanctions towards me and Mar and I wish they 709 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: would again. But um, at the end of the day, 710 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: you know, the the well me and mar is not 711 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: going to really feel the pressure until India and China 712 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: started hitting on board. So I mean, I'm I would 713 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,959 Speaker 1: never you know, I always say I wish people would 714 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: do something. I wish people would act in this regard. 715 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: You know, people would stand up against these guys. That 716 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean military intervention. You know, there's a million other 717 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: ways to deal with this kind of stuff. Um, but 718 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: none of those are happening either. So UM, so I 719 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I Well, we'll see. I mean, me and 720 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: mar it doesn't want really really negative international pressure. And 721 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: I mean they're talking about prosecuting these guys and that 722 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: the UN courts can you know this type of stuff. 723 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: What what what will probably be me and Mars strategy 724 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: is to just do what they always do and just 725 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: draw it out for so long until everyone basically forgets 726 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: that it's happening. Uh. And they're really good at that, 727 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: and the U N is probably also kind of incidentally 728 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: good at that because everything they do takes forever I mean, 729 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: this has been going on for quite a while, and 730 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: the violence against the Rhinia has has fundamentally changed. The 731 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: initial push, the initial like slaughter is over. Not to 732 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: say that the violence has totally stopped, but you know 733 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: there sluggishness and responding to that and condemning that with 734 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: more than the just words, you know, has already costs 735 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: a lot. So I don't, you know, we'll see, um, 736 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: but I think what they're saying is accurate. You know, 737 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: it's just like you, like you said, you know, I 738 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: just hope it's more than talk. Yeah, I'm looking forward 739 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: to continue our reporting on this issue because, like I said, 740 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: it goes under reported, and as you said, people perceive 741 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: this as being the same story again and again when 742 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: there are obviously some updates happening, but the world is 743 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: kind of turning a blind eye to a lot of it. Yeah. Um, 744 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: the last thing we wanted to cover here was any 745 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: updates with the war in Afghanistan. We talked more in 746 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: depth about this the last time that you were on, 747 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: but I was wondering if there was anything that you 748 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: want to hit in particular. Um. Yeah, you know, I've 749 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: been I've been moving states here, so I kind of 750 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: fell behind a little bit on the last couple of weeks. 751 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: But from what I understand, there was supposed to be 752 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: a Russian summit with the Taliban and a bunch of 753 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: countries UM and Afghanistan. Uh. The Afghan government, you know, 754 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: President Ghani UM delayed that essentially because they didn't they 755 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: wanted they want Afghanistan to lead these peace talks and 756 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: and it sounds kind of like a stubborn, selfish kind 757 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: of move, but it makes sense on some level because 758 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: the Taliban basically sees if you if you read their 759 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: statements and if you look at everything, the way that 760 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: they speak and who they speak to and who they 761 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: say they want to speak to, they basically see the 762 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: Afghan government as like um small game, illegitimate puppets, and 763 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: they want to talk to the people who they think 764 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: are pulling the strings and so and then the Afghan 765 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: government they know that, Okay, if the Taliman is if 766 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: we're ever going to have a lasting peace agreement, they 767 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: have to take us seriously as a as a our 768 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: own entity. UM. And that you know, anyone that's been 769 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: there and worked with Afghan security forces and whatnot knows 770 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,959 Speaker 1: that you know that's going to take some serious doing. Um. 771 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: But but it's certainly possible, and and that's the direction 772 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: I think everyone is trying to head toward, a sort 773 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: of I don't want to say it's a saving grace 774 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: because it's just more war. But a uniting factor could 775 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 1: be as the isis president, the i S presence in 776 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, the Taliban hate them, the uh, you know, 777 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: the Afghan government hates them, and that could potentially be 778 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: a common enemy and a uniting factor, you know. Maybe. 779 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean I'm very I'm a very optimistic person, and 780 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: I've been watching these peace talks pretty closely and really 781 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: hopeful about them. But you know, I'm also not unrealistic 782 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: about them. You know, they're walking a knife edge with 783 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 1: it all, So we'll see where it goes. Yeah. Well, 784 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 1: for any major updates on what's going on in the region, uh, 785 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: check out the news rep dot com. We're going to 786 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: continue to report on that type of thing. Uh. You 787 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: can follow Luke on Twitter at I always love saying 788 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,959 Speaker 1: the Twitter name lay Ginger Rob, but it's spelled at 789 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: l E S underscore g I n g e r 790 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: A b l E S. I still think if you 791 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: had a more reasonable Twitter handle, you'd probably more followers, 792 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: but that's your Twitter handle, So if you guys want 793 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: to write that down again, it's at l e S 794 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: underscore g I n g E r A b l 795 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: e S. And then Instagram is a little bit more 796 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: normal at Luke dot Ryan dot l l t B 797 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: at Luke dot Ryan dot l l t B on Instagram. 798 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: Always love having you on, man, any other stuff to 799 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: look forward to. I mean, the book just came out, 800 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: so that's really the waitest, right yep. I'm I'm working 801 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: on some shorter creative stuff and then I'm going to 802 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 1: dig into the next book here pretty soon. I've already 803 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: started outlining it can't much man. Well, hey, love having 804 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: you on. I hope the new book does really well 805 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,479 Speaker 1: and that people get connected to these characters because they'll 806 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: have them for another two books in the future. Um. Yeah, 807 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: but I always love talking to you and thanks for 808 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 1: doing this. But later, brother, as I said, I always 809 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: enjoy having Luke on. I think we covered a wide 810 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: array of topics there. Um, and Luke is you know, 811 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: always working on stuff and and covering news that the 812 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: mainstream media is ignoring, and uh just uses his experience 813 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: to be able to talk about some underreported articles going 814 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: on in the media. Uh, there's only one club out 815 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: there with gear hand picks by special operations military veterans 816 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: from several branches, and that, of course, my friends, is 817 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: Great Club. I'm looking forward to the future collaboration we're 818 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: doing with NFW Watches for an exclusive Great Club watch 819 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: for Premium tier members that's coming soon. 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I mean, nonetheless, there's 857 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: a million places you can listen to this podcast, so 858 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be that big of a concern. You could 859 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 1: listen on Google Play, on Apple Podcasts, on SoundCloud, on Stitcher. 860 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: We're pretty much everywhere you get podcasts. The only place 861 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: we're not right now is Spotify, I think because Spotify 862 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: is like super selective about podcasts they put on the app. 863 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't know the whole deal, but that's like the 864 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: only place you won't get the podcast. So you know, 865 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: if if you're having trouble with the app, there's a 866 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: ton of other options for you to check out. And 867 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: if you're listening to me, which you are, chances are 868 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm preaching to the choir because you're not having any 869 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: trouble listening to the podcast. Um anyway, Uh, small bit 870 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: of news from a call I had this morning with 871 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: the team. A lot of you did notice that on 872 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,280 Speaker 1: the news rep dot com there's no software radio set action. 873 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: This was obviously a concern to me. I brought it 874 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: to people's attention. Uh, they're kind of restructuring everything. But 875 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: this is still SOFTWAREP Radio. As I've mentioned as many 876 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: times as I can, I get a ton of questions 877 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: about it. Uh, no changes over here. We're still SOFTWAREP Radio. 878 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 1: But it looks like soft Rep Radio is gonna move 879 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: over to the load out Room dot com um in 880 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: terms of like where we'll put the articles up, so 881 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: that it is gonna be sent over there, I think 882 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: in the coming days. So if you're not a regular 883 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: visitor to the load out room, check out that site. 884 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 1: It's load out room dot com. Scott Whittner, the editor 885 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: over there, does an amazing job of putting up gear stuff, 886 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,879 Speaker 1: and it just looks like that's more the direction where 887 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 1: at than where the news rep is right now. Although 888 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: we'll obviously have those writers on. It's still the same 889 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: company though, guys, it's still a Hurricane Media, all under 890 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: the same umbrella. We've changed up in the past. You know, 891 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: if you've been following, what was um for Stwalden has 892 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: become Hurricane Media. There's been sites that we've added that 893 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: we've gotten rid of. That's just been the nature of 894 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: the business since we've come around. So there's there's always 895 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: changes happening and always UM revisions taking place, but this 896 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: show has been SOFTWREP Radio for the past five plus years, 897 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: so no changes on that end. UM. I hope you 898 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: guys enjoyed this new episode up on Friday, and I 899 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 1: know a lot of you are missing Jack. Jack will 900 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 1: be back next week and we have some great guests 901 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: lined up, some people in studio. I look forward to that. 902 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: See you guys here. 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