1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,359 Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody? 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from the 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: Monday Texans Radio studio. John Harrison, Mark Vandermir Here one 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: day before the Texans take on the Detroit Lions and 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: a joint practice on Thursday and then a game on Saturday. 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Game you could hear right here in s Ports Radio 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: six ten at noon. Pregame show will start nine with 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: Shawn and Seth, then the game at twelve with Mark 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: and Andre. 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Minus me, I'll be on TV. 11 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: You can see that KTRK Chown thirteen and then postgame 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: after that on Sports Radio six to ten you can 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: hear with Seawan and Clint Sterner. 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Mark, we are that close. How you're feeling. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: I'm feeling great, Johnny. 16 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 4: Look, this is a great two sessions file again, just 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 4: like you had with the Panthers, you had the Thursday 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 4: joint practice and you had the Saturday game. Now you 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 4: have a Thursday joint practice and a Saturday game to 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: wrap up all your preseason activity. And you're gonna go 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: into full game mode next week with a couple of 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: weeks to get ready for the Rams. And as ND 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 4: told us on Monday show, even with the fourth preseason 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 4: game which no longer exists, which would take place that 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 4: Thursday before Labor Day weekend. The starters, I put that 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: into air quotes, were working on the game plan for 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 4: the opener. They were not going to play that fourth 28 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 4: preseason game. So really that hasn't changed. Now you can 29 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 4: fully focus though on Game one, instead of having the 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 4: staff having to get to the fourth preseason game with 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: these third and fourth teamers, some second teamers, that kind 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 4: of thing. So I like, this great activity, Please don't 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: get hurt. Let's get back healthy, safe and ready for 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: the Rams September seventh. 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: Now, I don't remember exactly, but I'm trying to think 36 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: back when we had four preseason games. Did we have 37 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: a buye between the fourth preseason game and the regular 38 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: season off Labor Day week get off? 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 5: Right? 40 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Ye had Labor Day weekend off and that was it. 41 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: So you played that game Thursday night, right, got to 42 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: your fifty three, and then you were playing that following 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: Sunday exactly. So I think it's changed a little bit 44 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: as far like prep for the Rams. Now, I think 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: they've been doing prep for the Rams and probably bucks a. 46 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Little bit all the way along. 47 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, at certain times probably even the times that 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: we don't even we don't get to see as you know, 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: members of the media, et cetera. So even though we've 50 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: seen everything in training camp, but we haven't ever always 51 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: seen or the walkthroughs that they do, the things they 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 2: do behind the scenes. You know, we see that practice time, 53 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: but that's it. After that, they could be doing walkthroughs 54 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: and talking about the RAMS in the entire time. But 55 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: I do think they've been focused on the RAMS a 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: little bit. But I think going up to Detroit, the 57 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: way that they've constructed this with a joint practice on Thursday, 58 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: kind of the last hard hitting opportunity, if you will, 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: for the. 60 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Starters or the ones or whatever you want to you 61 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: wanna go with. 62 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: But I also think it's really good for Derek Barnett 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: fully thought of Cassi, Christian Harris, Damian Pierce, those guys 64 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: that were on pop that have made kind of ramp 65 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: up slowly, but surely I think this ends up being 66 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: a good week for them. 67 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 6: Now. 68 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll see all those guys in 69 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: the joint practice. My guess is we will, considering how 70 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: they've been ramping guys up and the fact that the 71 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: other day with pads on. They were all involved. But 72 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: you never know, you never know how that's gonna go. 73 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: But I do think it's it's gonna be interesting how 74 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: they how they kind of piece all of that together 75 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: for the Thursday practice against the Lions. I do not 76 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: feel this is my my gut, John Harris, my gut, 77 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: not reading anything from the team or anything that Demiko 78 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: or Nick have said. I don't think we're seeing the 79 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: I think the same or similar lineups that we saw 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: in Minnesota we're gonna see on Saturday against the Lions. 81 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: We're curious. We talked about this since Monday. Will you 82 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: see Davis Mills even start this game? Well you started 83 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: with Keaton Slovas. We don't know yet. I think the 84 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: joint practice is where you get the best, where you 85 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: can protect your quarterback, protect a lot of people. It's 86 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: not going to be taken them to the ground hard, 87 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: but things do happen and joint practices. You're so close 88 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: to the starting line and we have who we have 89 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 4: here and I just want to see everybody make it. 90 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: I don't want to see any more trouble. But it 91 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: is a big week when you look at this activity. However, 92 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 4: they light it up against the Detroit Lions. So please 93 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: take care of yourself. Okay, I'm going somewhere with this, 94 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: all right, humor me if you will on this mark. Yeah, 95 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: when did Connor Barwin get hurt? Remember you got hurt 96 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: into was it twenty ten and he got hurt? 97 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: Was the game one? Yeah? 98 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: It was a preseason See, those are the ones that 99 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: always get me. 100 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: The game one injuries when you've gone through all the preseasons, 101 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: you made all the way through all of that, and 102 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, there's your foot going sideways 103 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: in week one and you're like, I just know, and 104 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: that was such a good day obviously because Arion had 105 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: done so much, but I believe those week one those 106 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: are the ones that and look it's at this point, 107 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: whether it's this week or whether it be week one, 108 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: those are the ones that always kind of get me 109 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: because you've gone through all this preseason stuff, You've gone 110 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: through all of that, especially if you're that you're looking 111 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: forward week one. Here we go La Rams and you 112 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: tweak an ankle and you're out four or five weeks, 113 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: your worse like Connor ended up missing the whole year. 114 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: So here's a quarter into the whole game. 115 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: So from that standpoint, just everybody stay healthy. I'll be 116 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: holding my breath the entire joint practice. 117 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: Okay, so let's go game mode now. Okay, assume starters 118 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: don't start. Okay, if you will, Okay, let's go three 119 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: things to keep an eye out for. 120 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: Three things to watch in this one. I'll go first. 121 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 122 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: I don't care what level of the depth chart we're 123 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: talking about. I want to see the Lion continue to 124 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: move the line of scrimmage. Both lines good, but offensive 125 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 4: line especially move the line of scrimmage. Can you do 126 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 4: it against these Lions, this team which was a really 127 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: good team last year obviously and should be a really 128 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: good team this year again. You want to see all 129 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 4: levels of the depth chart perform well like they did 130 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 4: last week against the Panthers. Can you do that on 131 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: the road against the Lions? Because one thing about Dan Campbell, 132 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: I don't care who's coordinating, and they lost their coordinators 133 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson. But Dan Campbell wants it 134 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 4: to be clean feros really good no matter who's out 135 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: there playing, and Dimiico does too, so that should be 136 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 4: a good battle at the line of scrimmage. 137 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 138 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: I think my the one I would throw in there 139 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: would be the tight ends. My guess is, rox see 140 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz, Kate Stover. I don't think, oh, we see 141 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: new guy, but we're gonna see new guy Harrison Bryant. Yeah, 142 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: and I think we have to see him and see 143 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: how it looks. I don't think he'll play a ton, 144 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: but you got to figure out who's gonna is it 145 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: Irv Smith? 146 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: Is it Harrison Bryant? 147 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Is it Luke Lashe because Trey McKitty was released, is 148 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: it one of those three guys. Is Yakub Johnson gonna 149 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: take a full back tight end role? So they keep 150 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: Kate and Dalton and keep Yakab And those are the 151 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: three guys that fit tight end and full back. So 152 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: I think a lot has to do with the tight 153 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: ends and how they perform. My guess is you trade 154 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: for Harrison Bryant thinking he's gonna be on his team 155 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: until you see enough to say, okay, this is in 156 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: the right fit or whatever. I think he's gonna end 157 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: up being the right fit, so I'm curious when he 158 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: brings so the tight ends would be mine. 159 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 4: I think that's a point unto itself though, as you 160 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: bring up the tight ends and the receiver lack of 161 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: depth all of a sudden because you have Xavier Johnson 162 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 4: out now right, he got waved injured. We already talked 163 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: about no Jared Wayne, no Johnny Johnson. You know you're 164 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: dealing with a depleted crew. You traded John Metchi. You 165 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: brought in two new guys this week, which is great. 166 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: So it's not like you can you know, run a 167 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: lot of wide receiver personnel out there because you're depleted 168 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: at tight end. The receivers you got a couple of 169 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: them are just learning the ropes. So third and fourth 170 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: quarter in this one, how do they set it up? 171 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: Are we just gonna hammer the ball and just you know, 172 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: run the clock. I don't know, but you still want 173 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: to see some things. So this will be interesting to 174 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: see how they line up with those two position groups 175 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: in particular, so that I kind of match up with 176 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: your second point. 177 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I think the third thing to watch ends 178 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: up being corner. I think there's the corner battle. Look, 179 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: we have two of the best in the league at 180 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: the front end, Kamar Lasser and Derek Stingley Junior. But 181 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: after that, I think you're gonna end up having a 182 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: competition for who who's three? Yeah, is it Jay Rock, 183 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: Jalen Smith, is it Tremont Smith? Who is it D'Angelo Ross? 184 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: I think there's still a competition for that third corner battle, 185 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: if you will, And that makes my sleeper of the 186 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: game in this one Jalen Smith, because not so much 187 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: a sleeper, but I think in this game he's gonna 188 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: be a guy that we see for a little while, 189 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: but not a ton But he's got to be able 190 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: to play well in the joint practice, which he didn't 191 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: do great against the Panthers, So I think he's got 192 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: to play much better against the Lions and he'll have 193 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: plenty of opportunities to show that he can be that 194 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: third corner in this defense. 195 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: He is the third thing to watch and my sleeper 196 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: of the game. 197 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 4: All right, sleeper of the game for is that everybody 198 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: Mattress from the official sleep partner of the Houston Texans. 199 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: Mine would be Jawar Jordan. I think he's gonna run 200 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: the rock forty times. I'm kidding about forty times, but 201 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna run it a lot because what 202 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: he marks. I think he'll play, but if he does 203 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: well a driver too, they're gonna get him out of 204 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: their Jawar's show to show his stuff. 205 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: So let's see what he produces. 206 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: That is gonna be absolutely fantastic. Now, I just mentioned 207 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: Kamari last. He joined me after practice a couple of 208 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 2: days ago, Steven had a goke joined me after practice yesterday, 209 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: and Jake Andrews joined Mark a couple days ago. We 210 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: got all those interviews one on ones next right here 211 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: in Texans All Access time, and everybody, welcome back to 212 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from the Honday Texans 213 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: Radio studio. I'm your host, Jean Harris, football analyst, sideline 214 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: reporter for your Houston Texans. Will be up in the 215 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: booth for the final preseason game. A little sad about 216 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: that because I love working with my crew up there, 217 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: Dave Keeney, our producer Indy klu my longtime friend Kevin Coogler, 218 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: who's the best man. He has become such a good 219 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: friend and such a good play by play host. 220 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just great. 221 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: And then of course Shelby Coppice down on the sidelines 222 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: looking for one final time with them for this season. 223 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five season. That's gonna be fun against 224 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: Detroit on Saturday. Kick is at noon. If you're in Detroit, 225 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: it's one Eastern because you're Eastern in Michigan Eastern Center Time, 226 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: which is always weird because I lived when I grew 227 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: up before I moved to Houston, I lived in Wisconsin. 228 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: We lived right on the border of the Upper Peninsula, 229 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: and so you would go like forty five minutes up 230 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: in the Upper Peninsula turned into Eastern Time, so just 231 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: an hour's drive and you were literally going two hours ahead, 232 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: which is kind of I don't know, it's kind of weird, 233 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: but yeah, it's what you grew up with. So you 234 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: deal with that. But I like my Central Time right 235 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: here in Houston. But we'll be up on Eastern Time 236 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: for a little bit for the next few days as 237 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: we are up in Detroit for a joint practice on 238 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: Thursday and then the game on Saturday. Now, I don't 239 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: expect to see our guest. My guest coming up next 240 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: in that game. His name is Kamari Last. He's one 241 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: of the better young corners in this league. I love 242 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: I love getting a chance to talk Kamari. He is 243 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: everything that this program is about. This organization is about 244 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: I cut off with him after practice a couple days ago. 245 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: All right, we're still in training camp twenty twenty five, 246 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: John Harris Kamari Lassiter, all right, Camar, I'm. 247 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: Gonna ask you an interesting question. 248 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 2: I want to see how your answer meshes with what 249 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: your teammates have said about you. Jimmy, the one adjective 250 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: that describes your play the best? 251 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: What would you say? Dog? 252 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 6: Is that that? 253 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 7: No? 254 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 8: Way? 255 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Wait? 256 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 6: Is that that? 257 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: That's a noun, that's a noun. 258 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 6: Okay, adjective I would say. 259 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: Realis okay, okay, good, good good. They use the word crazy. 260 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 6: I feel like that's good too, that's good too. 261 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: Okay, but crazy implies that you're not playing smart relentless. 262 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: Sounds like you're playing smart, you're doing the right things, 263 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: but you're also fearless too. 264 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 6: I don't think that minute and that crazy. I feel 265 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 6: like they think. 266 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 5: They say, like he plays out there were like crazy 267 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 5: effort makes crazy players. 268 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 6: I think, knowing my teammates, I figured that's what they 269 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 6: were talking about. 270 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: You're wonder year two, how much more comfortable do you fear? 271 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 8: This year? 272 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 5: A lot, a lot more comfortable with everything is moving 273 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 5: a little bit slower. Uh, the game comes to me, 274 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: it flows a lot better. I have a routine now, 275 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 5: I understand the defense more, I understand the nuances and 276 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 5: kind of trying to understand more of like what offenses 277 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 5: are trying to do and how they're trying to attack us. 278 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: So from a just a football one oh one knowledge 279 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: IQ standpoint, how much would you learn as a rookie? 280 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: That's kind of helped you going forward this year you 281 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: said the game is slowing down. Is that because you're 282 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: studying more, you're just seeing things differently, or because you're 283 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: seeing things over and over again. 284 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: That's starting to click. 285 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 5: A little bit of all of those things you just said, 286 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 5: like the game is slowing down because I got a 287 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: year under my belt, I kind of gotta flow how 288 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 5: the NFL game works, and you know how the game 289 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 5: kind of transitioning the situations and how much. 290 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 6: Each situation really means, and how offenses attack each. 291 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: Situation, and how we want to take a situation as 292 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 5: a defense, just kind of understanding like the game plan 293 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 5: more kind of understanding like how we want to attack 294 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 5: an offense, how we want how we want. 295 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 6: To approach the week. 296 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 5: I just feel like I've been studying more as well, 297 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 5: like just and I know what to study now I'm 298 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 5: not just studying freely, like I'm just studying specific things, 299 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: and they starting to translating my game more. 300 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to cornerback is draft. 301 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: Everybody wants to know about how they cover, can they matge, 302 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: can they you know, order to feed all. 303 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: That kind of stuff. 304 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: But I think the one thing people missed about you 305 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: is how well you play the run. Where did that 306 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: sort of develop in your game? Coming up and play 307 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: the wrong with the force the secondary force as much 308 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: as you have. 309 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 5: That started in LIT League when I was playing with 310 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 5: the Savannah Stars. That's like one of the main things 311 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 5: that we were taking was physicality. And that's just always 312 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: been my mo just coming from Savannah Georgia and then 313 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 5: translating high school and then especially at college with Kirby. 314 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 5: At Georgia, you can't go to Georgia unless you're physical. 315 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 5: So I mean that was just like that was perfect 316 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 5: for me, you know, that was right in my alley, 317 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: and I did three years there being the super physical cornerback. 318 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 5: Well coach Kirby, coach Fran coach Schuman, coach Champing, all 319 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 5: those guys and Yeah. It just translated right to another 320 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: situation where Houston and it's like almost like I'm still 321 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 5: in college just because of the way that we train 322 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 5: out here and how we get after. 323 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 6: It really reminds me back home. 324 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: What is the ceiling for your secondary this year? What's 325 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 2: the absolute? What can you guys do once you get 326 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: everybody back healthy and ready to go? What's the ceiling 327 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: for your group? 328 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 6: There is no ceiling. That's the crazy part. You guys 329 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 6: can be that good, Yes, sir. 330 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 5: We have the ability to be that good. We had 331 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 5: the potential word that I don't like to use. But 332 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 5: as long as we continue to work, we continue to 333 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: play everythaying together, it's gonna come together the way it's 334 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 5: supposed to be. 335 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: I love that answer. 336 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: You can ever align potentially, you gotta go make it 337 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: happen tomorrow. 338 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: Last to appreciate your time, man, Thank you, thank you. 339 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: If I'm being one hundred percent honest, I'm gonna talk 340 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: to Kamari for an hour. There's so many things that 341 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: I love about his game. I just love about his personality. 342 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: I love about where he came from. He mentioned the 343 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: words Savannah and I mentioned to him afterwards. I was 344 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: like Yeah, my wife, What's Savannah College of Art and Design? 345 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: And we had like a two minute, three minute conversation 346 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: about Savannah Collegs of Art and Design? How at the 347 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: brown and we had Rizzy Right Island School of Design, 348 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: and I remember saying I was like Cole's like, man, 349 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: I would never date or marry somebody from Right Island 350 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: School Design. I didn't, but I did marry someone from 351 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: Savannah College of Art and Design and she has been 352 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: in love my life for over thirty plus years. It 353 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: was great talking to Kamari. It's about Savannah, about football. 354 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: I believe it was his mom that was down on 355 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: the sidelines. 356 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: That's I mean, you could see the resemblance, so it 357 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: had to be her. 358 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: She was so excited to see Kaylen because Kaylen and 359 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: Kamaria have become such close friends since being drafted together 360 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: last year in twenty twenty four. So just glad that 361 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: that young man plays for this football team. Now a 362 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: young man who coaches for this football team is safety 363 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: coach Stephen had a gokay unbelievably smart, hard working, great personality. 364 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: I had a chance to catch up with him after 365 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: practice on Tuesday. All Right Training Camp twenty twenty five, 366 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: safety's coach Stephen had of Okay, all right, how hot 367 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: is it today? 368 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: How tough is it to get through these as? The 369 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: grind of training camp has really kicked in. 370 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 9: I mean, I think every day get opportunity to come 371 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 9: out here, it's a blessed. So you kind of you 372 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 9: take there the weather with the grain of salt, like 373 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 9: everybody has to deal with something and you just have 374 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 9: your mind focused on, you know, getting better each day. 375 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 6: Coaches, players, everybody. 376 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: Said the best way possible, coach, coach, tell me about 377 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: your room. Just what you got in there? Just overall theme, 378 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: what you guys got in the room. A few vets, 379 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: a couple guys, you know, Kaylan in the second year, 380 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: what you got in that room? 381 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 6: Back there? 382 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 9: A lot of hardworking them in all of them. The vets, 383 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 9: I know we call events, but everybody in the room 384 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 9: is you know, has the right mindset when they step 385 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 9: in the middling day in and day out. They want 386 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 9: to be accountable and they are responsible individuals. So when 387 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 9: it comes to learning off the field, teaching each other, 388 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 9: taking the classroom to individual to the game, like they've 389 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 9: all taken that to the next step. And I think 390 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 9: I mean, the sky's a limit for the room. 391 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Your one. 392 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: Kayling starts solid year as a rookie, there's no doubts 393 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: or talk about him a buzz around the league. What 394 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: are you seeing in Kaitlin's second year? At least here 395 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: in training camp. Hasn't played a ton of the games. 396 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: But in training camp, what have you seen in the 397 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: growth of him year two? 398 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 9: Somebody just focused on getting better day in the day, 399 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 9: all aspects of his game. I know we all chase perfection, 400 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 9: and we know that none of us are perfect, but 401 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 9: he wants to improve every day, whether it's even just 402 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 9: catching the ball at the highest point in the air, 403 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 9: is tracking a near hip when I'm tackling, putting body 404 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 9: on body, trying to step on toes and you know, 405 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 9: there's a lot of big running backs in the league, 406 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 9: so like it's hard to simulate it in practice, but 407 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 9: just okay, how can I put myself a position to 408 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 9: prepare myself for those positions in the game. 409 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: One day after practice, m J. 410 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: Stewart just looked at me and said, I'm aging like 411 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: a fine wine. He does a lot of different things 412 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: for this team. What does he give you in that backfield? 413 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 9: A lot of leadership. 414 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 7: Yeah. 415 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 9: Number one, a guy that can move around different spots 416 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 9: on the field. I mean it doesn't matter. He can 417 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 9: line up anywhere on the defense and help us where 418 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 9: we need it. And I mean it's great. You know, 419 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 9: he comes in every day and ask a lot of 420 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 9: great questions. Very intelligent person. 421 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: How different is this defense? Coach? 422 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: Maybe not schematically, but just every year is different. I've 423 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: talked to coach about this, talk to some of the players. 424 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: Twenty three was different than twenty four, Twenty four is 425 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: different than twenty five. What is it about this twenty 426 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: twenty five defense that you see? 427 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 9: Just overall from your opinion, Again, like you alluded to, 428 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 9: every year is a new year. It's just like school, right, 429 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 9: every year in school is something different. It's still school, 430 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 9: but there's something different, different group of guys. And I 431 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 9: think the more that we have this core group of 432 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 9: guys on the team together, the more that we're growing. 433 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 9: And obviously you're not starting necessarily from square one as 434 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 9: an organization because the culture is there and the leaders 435 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 9: are there. Now we're adding pieces and you know, we're 436 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 9: molding those together. 437 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: So it's been good. 438 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: I think the core group of. 439 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 9: Guys, I mean that we've had over the years is 440 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 9: really taken on the leadership and been accountable. 441 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, going to Detroit, hopefully we'll get out of this 442 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: weather a little bit. 443 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: What do you accomplish? What are you looking to accomplish 444 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: for your group? Back there? Going to Detroit with the 445 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: joint practice and then a game on Saturday. 446 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 9: It's about the team, you know, we always want to win, 447 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 9: but it's really about the guys getting better each and 448 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 9: every day the preseason, about guys getting opportunities to display 449 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 9: their abilities and show how they can improve over the 450 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 9: course of training camp because it is a grind, but 451 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 9: every day, whether it's a physical setting or to walk 452 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 9: through where you're getting mental reps right, how sharp can 453 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 9: I be and how how can I do? How often 454 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 9: can I do the right thing? So I think that's 455 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 9: that's the focus there going into training camp. You know, 456 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 9: joint practices get you know, they got hyped up, but 457 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 9: again you're trying to get better, You're trying to get 458 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 9: something out of it. 459 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: Coach, thank you so much, really appreciate thank you, sir. 460 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: Sad part of that is I think that might be 461 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: my last training camp interview. 462 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: We might get wanted Detroit we'll see, but if that 463 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: was the last one, it's a great one to end 464 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: on steven A. It's funny because when we text each other, 465 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: none of us know really how to spell Steve and 466 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: I gokay. I think it's relatively easy, but we just don't. 467 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: We just always say steven A. So the other day 468 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: when I saw in the text threat, I'm like, steven A, 469 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: oh oh oh, are stephen A not stephen A Smith espn. 470 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: Which I'd much rather talk to steven out of gokay, 471 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, steven A Smith whatever, I'd 472 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: much rather talk to our steven A. 473 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: He's the best now. 474 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: Mark in his final training camp interview, caught up with 475 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: Center Jake Andrews. Take listen to good interview here all right, Jake, 476 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: So tell me how it's been. We caught up at 477 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: mini camp, but a lot of water has gone under 478 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: the bridge since then. 479 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: How's it been for you? Since? 480 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 10: I've been having a lot of fun, really enjoyed being here. 481 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 10: I feel blessed to be here. I think we've gotten 482 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 10: a lot better since we last talked. Still got a 483 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 10: long way to go, but like I said, I think 484 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 10: everybody's enjoying it. And I know I am for sure. 485 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: Be in the center. You're the quarterback of the offensive line. 486 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: So what's that like for you having to make those 487 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: calls at the line and direct everybody properly? 488 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 10: U I enjoy I think it's a lot of fun. 489 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 10: That's a big piece of why I like enjoy so 490 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 10: much playing center. It comes with like a small leadership 491 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 10: role that you kind of just have to have. But 492 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 10: then again, like you're you're learning defenses, you're learning like 493 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 10: the way they align. It's fun to study different teams 494 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 10: each week, even studying our own team and just figuring 495 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 10: out the little intricacies that they talk about and what 496 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 10: they do. 497 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: So I really enjoyed just as a foot ball. 498 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 6: Fan and lover of the game. 499 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 10: So yeah, I have a lot of fun with it 500 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 10: and take a lot of pride in doing that. 501 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, facing your own team is one of the best 502 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: defenses you're gonna face, no doubt. So what is that 503 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: like day in day out as you try to fool them? 504 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 4: I'll put that in air quotes and make plays because 505 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: they know you after a while pretty well, Yeah they do. 506 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 10: I mean it's not often you have to, you know, 507 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 10: somewhat game plan your own defense and practice so you 508 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 10: can get you know, a good look at something. But 509 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 10: you know, kudos to them. I mean, it's one of 510 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 10: the best defenses as a hole in the league. Definitely 511 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 10: one of the top defensive lines in the league, the 512 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 10: front seven, not to mention, you know, if you break 513 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 10: it down in each category, like they're they're pretty degne good, 514 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 10: you know, everywhere. 515 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fun. 516 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 10: And you know, I've always said practice, if you can 517 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 10: make practice harder than the games, like that's that's a 518 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 10: good thing. And they make it hard for us. Hopefully 519 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 10: we're making it hard for them as well. And you 520 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 10: know that's just a winning formula right there. When we're 521 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 10: on the same team on Sundays. 522 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 4: We see results on the field, no question. With the 523 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: offensive line, you guys paving the way for the ony game, 524 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: pass protection, everything like that. What's it been like behind 525 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: the curtain, behind closed doors, the room bonding, developing, the 526 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 4: camaraderie you guys need at the chemistry you guys need 527 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 4: to be effective off the field. 528 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: What's that been like? 529 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been good. 530 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 10: You know, you kind of have I don't mean this 531 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 10: in a negative way, but you kind of have no 532 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 10: choice when you're around each other here during training camp. 533 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 10: I mean, that's that's kind of part of it, and 534 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 10: I think we've all embraced it. I think we all 535 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 10: truly do enjoy being around each other. Everybody gets along 536 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 10: with everybody, doesn't matter if you're a ten year guy, 537 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 10: one year guy, like I think everybody truly enjoys being 538 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 10: around each other. And so that's been really nice. You know, 539 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 10: I know you don't have that at a lot of places. 540 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 10: It's not always like that, and so for that to 541 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 10: be the case here has been really fun. And I 542 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 10: think we're all lucky to have such a good room 543 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 10: up there. 544 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're developing an identity? I know 545 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: that's kind of cliche, but it seems like that's coming 546 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 4: around from the outside looking in. 547 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: How do you see it, Jake? 548 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I you know, I think there's always 549 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 10: work to be done, but you know, we got a 550 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 10: long way to go. We're still not where we need 551 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 10: to be, and you know we probably never will be. 552 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 10: But you know, you know, Di Migo actually just said 553 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 10: it when we got done just now, like you're striving 554 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 10: for perfection, but you'll never hit perfect It's it's the 555 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 10: game of football cannot be played perfectly. It just doesn't happen. 556 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 10: But I think the the closer and closer you can get, 557 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 10: and the harder you strive to be perfect, that's when 558 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 10: good stuff happens. And Yeah, I think I think we 559 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 10: are gonna have a decent identity of you know, running 560 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 10: the football hard and and moving defenders and paving you know, 561 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 10: lanes for the backs to hit and making sure that 562 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 10: the pockets cleaned for a passer and you know, stuff 563 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 10: like that, and then playing with a little attitude. I 564 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 10: think that's kind of all what sums up the identity. 565 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 10: And I think we've we've gotten closer and closer each 566 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 10: week to getting that. 567 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 4: You have the joint practice last week with the Panthers, 568 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 4: now you have one with the Lions coming up. How's 569 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 4: that different from a game for you? For what you do, Yeah. 570 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 10: You know, it's you want to protect the team, You 571 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 10: want to protect the other team. You know, I know 572 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 10: they're quote unquote the enemy and stuff like that, but 573 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 10: you know, you never want to hurt anybody. You never 574 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 10: want to get anybody hurt. So there's kind of that 575 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 10: line to it. Then again, it's practice and you are 576 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 10: competing and you know, everybody wants to have a job 577 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 10: when it comes down to cut down day, and you 578 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 10: know that's kind of an unsaid thing, but it's definitely different. 579 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 10: You're able to finishing games, you're not able to finish 580 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 10: in practice, especially upfront for us, Like you have to 581 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 10: kind of find that that threshold I was saying of 582 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 10: making sure you're finishing plays but not doing you know, 583 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 10: too much while you're still competing and still trying to 584 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 10: have that identity like we just talked about, you kind 585 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 10: of have to you kind of have to adjust a 586 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 10: little bit. But but it's always good work. 587 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 4: So what about Houston. How's it been for you? What 588 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: are you noticing about the city. How's the acclimation going 589 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: to Houston? 590 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: Oh, it's great. 591 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 10: Me and my wife and you know, we have a 592 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 10: thirteen month old and we love it. It's been great. 593 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 10: We're both from the South and so the Southern hospitality 594 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 10: is obviously nice to be back in. It's hot, but 595 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 10: you know, I grew up in it, I'm used to it. 596 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 10: I love it. It's been a lot of fun. 597 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 8: We have. 598 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 10: Like I said, we have a thirteen month so so 599 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 10: we don't get out too much, right but we do 600 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 10: try to get out some and you know, have a 601 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 10: nice dinner here and there, and it's it's been great. 602 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 6: I love it so far. 603 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 7: We both do. 604 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: Baby sleeping, Okay, at thirteen months. 605 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 10: She sleeps great. 606 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right, good, yeah, now that's good. Sometimes it 607 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: takes a little longer for. 608 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 1: Some it does. 609 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 10: We were lucky she's she's been awesome. We're scared for 610 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 10: what the next. 611 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: My hold, you're gonna pay the price. 612 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 10: Yeah's coming, it's coming at some point. 613 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: She's the best though. All right, Jake, Well, congratulations on that. 614 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: I know, thirteen months ago, but still being a young father, 615 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: it's got to be great and being here with the 616 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 4: Houston Texans. 617 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: We appreciate you being on. 618 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it with our interviews in 619 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: this segment, Choir Lasser, Steve and I you okay, and 620 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: Jake Andrews. 621 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: Coming on next a little Texans. 622 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: Audio juke box. We'll hear from Lions coach Dan Campbell. 623 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: We'll hear from Texans GM Nick Cassario and Texans off 624 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: It's coordinator Nick Kayley. 625 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: All next right here in Texans All Access. What's happen everybody? 626 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access 627 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: from the day Texans Radio studio, John Harris, your host, 628 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: football and sideline reporter, getting ready for a joint practice 629 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: tomorrow against the Detroit Lions. And there's no better way 630 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: to get hyped about a joint practice than a Texans 631 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: audio jubebus. 632 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: That's right. 633 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: I love to pull in sound from various luminaries, if 634 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: you will, and found a few found a couple of 635 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 2: nick sees, found a Dan see that we found some 636 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: audio that would relate to the Texans or maybe. 637 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: Even the Lions at this point. 638 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: In fact, let's start right there with Lions head coach 639 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell. He's a Texan, not a Houston Texan, but 640 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: he's a Texan. Went to a and m he knows 641 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 2: what Texans football is all about, and he said he's 642 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: excited about facing this Texans defense because it is the 643 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: real deal. 644 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 7: Holy Field, I'm really fired up that we're gonna get 645 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 7: Houston to come in here. It's only for one pre 646 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 7: but I mean, those guys are you know what Dimico's 647 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 7: down out there has been has been very really impressive, 648 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 7: and I know this defense is, Uh, they're the real deal. 649 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 7: The way they play the way they practice to go 650 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 7: about their business. They got weaponrar on offense. Quarterbacks, a 651 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 7: good little player, you can go across the board. So 652 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 7: my point, I can't wait then, Like that's perfect. So 653 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 7: that keeps me from jumping too far ahead. So we've 654 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 7: got this little batch left. I can't wait to get 655 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 7: Houston here because it'll be great for us. We need 656 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 7: to work and it'll make us better. I just know 657 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 7: it will. So that's where we're at now. But I'm 658 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 7: trying to keep my eyes there because i do want 659 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 7: to look over the hill. Okay, keep going. 660 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna let Dan look over the hill. I guess 661 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 2: everybody Detroit will know what that means. But you could 662 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: tell there is definite excitement about facing a team to 663 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: caliber in the Houston Texas. I know from the Texans 664 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 2: there is that thought of facing a team the caliber 665 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: of the Detroit Lions. Now, Troy practices sometimes don't happen 666 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: in his final week of pre season, but both Dan 667 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: Campbell and Damika Ryans, we're excited about facing one another. 668 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: What is it that Dan Campbell is looking for in 669 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 2: these joint in this joint practice session with the Texas. 670 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 7: No, No, it'll be very similar There'll be a couple 671 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 7: of things that Demiko and I'll do different. You know, 672 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 7: they'll be a little like one thing would be more 673 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 7: of a second long to third down period. You know 674 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 7: we second long play it out. We've we've done it 675 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 7: out here with our own guys. Those are good and 676 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 7: so now those are more stress just on offensively man 677 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 7: picking up the chunk yard is that you need or 678 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 7: what can you get back to put yourself in a 679 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 7: third manageable? And then defensively is to be able to 680 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 7: keep them back. You know you got them back, now 681 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 7: how do you you know, how do you expose the 682 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 7: team when you got them in second and ten and 683 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 7: get off the field. So anyway, we'll do some of that, 684 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 7: but we'll do a lot of other things. I mean, 685 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 7: we're going to get forty to fifty plays in, which 686 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 7: will be good for guys. 687 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate Dan. 688 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: See Dan Campbell aggie roommate of my good friend Billy 689 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: Lucci back in college. I can't wait to go up there. 690 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: First of all, the weather can be so I'm looking 691 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: forward to that. But also I like this Lions team, 692 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 2: always have, especially with Dan Campbell. I like the way 693 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: it's been built I like the way that Brad Holmes 694 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: has attacked the draft. The drafting and Jamira Gibbs was 695 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 2: something that I was fully one hundred percent on board 696 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: with for the Lions. I would have been on board 697 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: with for the Texans too, but turned out the way 698 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: it did for Detroit with all those picks they got 699 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: from the Jeer Golf trade and what it turned out 700 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: to be, it's been really really good for them. Now 701 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: let's flip it over the Texas side. Let's talk Nick 702 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: Cayley offensive coordinator, booth or field. What's it gonna be 703 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: my man? 704 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll be down on the field, feel good about it, 705 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 8: feel good about both. But I'll be down on a 706 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 8: field moving forward. 707 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: Communications good either way. 708 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 8: I just like, you know, I like to be able 709 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 8: to look guys in the eyes and be able to 710 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 8: walk over immediately and talk to guys, make adjustments with 711 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 8: the coaches, and be able to look guys in the 712 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 8: eyes when I communicate with him just a little bit 713 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 8: more efficient, and you know, I can cut a few 714 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 8: steps out that way. 715 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Many many eons ago, I did both as well. 716 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: One season I was up in a booth now wasn't 717 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: calling plays, And the next year I was the head 718 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: football coach. 719 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: It's a little different. 720 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: Head coaches are going to be down on a field, 721 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: but I know being down in a field it just 722 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: felt that much better. The booth you can see so much. 723 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: That's why I love doing the games and TV from 724 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: up there because you could see everything. There are a 725 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: lot of things I can't see from down on the 726 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: sidelines during the season, but I feel like I have 727 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: a better feel for what's happening during the game because 728 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm close to the action, kind of see some of 729 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: the interaction on the sidelines, look across the field, see 730 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: some of the same things. So I could appreciate the 731 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: decision that Nick Keiley had about booth or field. Somebody 732 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: had asked me and I said, I said booth, but 733 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm not sure because I guess that's where he was 734 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: starting in Minnesota, so he tried it off for size, 735 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: liked it better being down in a field. I like 736 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: it better actually for him, but I understand why it's 737 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: a decision point about being up in the booth or 738 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: the field during the games and calling it from there. 739 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: Thoughts about the offense against the Carolina Panthers. Nick Keley 740 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: had to say this about his efficient squad against Carolina 741 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 2: on Saturday. 742 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I thought they went on competed. They tried 743 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 8: to do exactly what we wanted to do. You know, 744 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 8: I thought we were fairly efficient, physical, took care of 745 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 8: the football, protected well. 746 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 6: I was happy with that. 747 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 8: I think it's something to build off of, and we 748 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 8: just got to keep moving it from here. 749 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: That last thing he said, I know, maybe he just 750 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: threw that in there, just kind of finish, you know, 751 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: have a way to end a sentence. But how does 752 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: it move on from here? That was the most important thing. Yeah, 753 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: it looked good Saturday, But how do we build on this? 754 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: Those do any good? 755 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: If we go to Detroit joint practice or in the 756 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: game and we revert backwards to some bad habits or 757 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: don't stay physical at the end of training camp, those 758 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: kind of things, how do we move on from here? 759 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: I think it's a great question Nick Keyley posed for 760 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: himself and the offense. Good stuff there from Nick answering 761 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: that question. One thing I know has to be at 762 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: least consistent, if not continuing to grow every day is 763 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: the physicality of this offensive line. 764 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: Nick Keley discussed that in his presser too. 765 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 8: Oh sure, I mean I think Look, I don't believe 766 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 8: in being anything other than the most physical team we 767 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 8: can possibly be. I think it allows you to control 768 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage, It carves out actually takes a 769 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 8: two or three yard gain in the run game to 770 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 8: a four or five or six yard gain. It wears 771 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 8: on people in the fourth quarter, and it's a matter 772 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 8: of mental and physical conditioning for us. Just continue to 773 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 8: push through that. But yeah, I believe in a physical 774 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 8: football team, and I think our guys have answered the 775 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 8: bell and they're working to be the most physical version 776 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 8: of themselves every single day. 777 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: When I heard that answer from Nick Keley, I kind 778 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: of knew what the answer is going to be based 779 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: on the question. I knew how he's going to answer that, 780 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: but it's still good to hear him say it with 781 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: such emphasis. Look, we're gonna be a physical ball club, 782 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: and he said that when he became the offensive corner. 783 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: He has set it throughout OTA's mini camp. He said 784 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: it once they put the pads on. But you're starting 785 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: to see it, and I think that's the most important 786 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: thing is you're starting to see that physicality of the 787 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: offensive line, just the offense overall. Boy, the running backs run, 788 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: how hard they run guys up front, getting a hat 789 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: on a hat. Double teams moving people. We should have 790 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: double team move people, but single blocks moving people out 791 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 2: of the way. Those kinds of things have been really, 792 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: really good for this offensive line and for the offense. 793 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: Speaking of offensive line, it's not yet solidified. When how 794 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: could that happen? Has happened this week? When do we 795 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: feel good about what the solidification of the offensive line 796 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: will be? 797 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 8: Mister Kayley, I think every rep counts, to your point, 798 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 8: So you know, there's not one practice. I don't think 799 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 8: that's any more important than the others. I think it's 800 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 8: a cumulative effect and it all counts for something. So 801 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 8: we'll watch this film like we have every other practice 802 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 8: and we'll assess it from there. But yeah, it all counts. 803 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 6: Yeah. 804 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: I gotta think they're getting closer and closer to it. 805 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: I think there are some things that they have I 806 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: think they know it now. I think they're getting close 807 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: to knowing it now, not just the starting five, but 808 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: just how each guy in the offensive line, how he ticks, 809 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: and how they work together. I think there are some 810 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: questions maybe about say Cam Robinson. You know, he was 811 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: hurt for a week week and a half. Maybe you know, 812 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: how does he kind of fit into the equations? Still, 813 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: I don't know that you really had a good read 814 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: on that. So I think they got to see Cam Robinson. 815 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: Now. 816 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll play, but I think it's 817 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: gonna be a big week going up against Detroit, going 818 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: up against Aiden Hutchinson, Josh Pascal, et cetera. 819 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: For the Lions out on the edge. 820 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: So I think there are still some guys that are 821 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: trying to figure out, but I think they have a 822 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: pretty good beat on some of the guys, especially that 823 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: have been there every single day. And that's why I 824 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 2: always say, just be there every day, just stack good days, 825 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: and the coaches start to learn what they've got and 826 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: can kind of, you know, think about what it is 827 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to do with those particular players, 828 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: especially rookies. And that's why Ariante being as good as 829 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: he has, being as consistent as he has, and yeah, 830 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: he had some tough moments yesterday, I don't get me wrong, 831 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: and he's gonna have some tough moments. He's a rookie 832 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: potentially playing left tackle in the league. But just keep 833 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: stacking days, you get more consistent. The more you play 834 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: and the coaches know what they've got in you, and 835 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: then they can sort of game plan around whatever the 836 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: inadequacies are, etcetera, etcetera. So all right, enough Onny the 837 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: offensive lines talk about running back, in particular Nick Chubb. 838 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: I thought he ran the ball really well against the Panthers. 839 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: What has he looked like to Nick Cayley. 840 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 8: I mean, he's as consistent of a human being in 841 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 8: terms of his approach, and I feel like he's continuing 842 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 8: to get better and better and better. And we only 843 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 8: had him for a short time in the spring. We 844 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 8: got him here in training camp, and he's continued to 845 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 8: grow every single day that he's been out here. He's 846 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 8: a really patient runner, has a good feel for pressing 847 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 8: landmarks and tracks, and he's just got a really good 848 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 8: instinct about runn football. 849 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: It's interesting to see the thoughts of people that follow 850 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 2: the NFL nationally. Josh Norris, who covers it for Underdog 851 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: Fantasy's pretty good. He was once an intern for the 852 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: Saint Louis Rams many many years ago, so dude knows 853 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: ball and he just put up a video of Nick 854 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: running and was like, Nick Chubb is Texans RB one 855 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: and again, we don't know about Joe Mixon. 856 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: We don't really have an idea. 857 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: I think it was a report the other day maybe 858 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: from Aaron Wilson and I talked about Joe maybe not 859 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: being ready for week one. Who's to say when it 860 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: comes to injuries, you just don't know. Honestly, none of 861 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: us really know. We can, you know, talk to various 862 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 2: people around other than you know, in the Texas training 863 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 2: training staff isn't gonna tell anybody anything. As well, they shouldn't. 864 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: It could be a disadvantage. Oh, we're not gonna see 865 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: Joe mix it in week one. Oh okay, let's plan 866 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: for this. My gut tells me that Joe may not 867 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 2: be ready for week one. But what I do know 868 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: is that if Nick Chubb is healthy, Damian Pierce is healthy, 869 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,479 Speaker 2: Woody Marks is healthy, Daria Goombawally is healthy, I feel 870 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: pretty good about what they could potentially put together against 871 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 2: the Rams of this run game. And remember the last 872 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: time we saw the LA Rams defense, they were giving 873 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: up two hundred plus to say Quon Barkley in the 874 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: fed Off Eagles. So for as good as that front is, 875 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: it's not a great linebacking corps it's not a great 876 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 2: safety corps. 877 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: If you get the front blocked, you've. 878 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 2: Got an opportunity to do some big things in the 879 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 2: running game, Nick hub being first and foremost you would 880 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: think in that running back group. Okay, let's flip over 881 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: to another, Nick c Nick Cassio. He was on with 882 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: Sean and Seth in the morning yesterday. Since we were 883 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 2: just discussing offense, and we'll throw in the joint practice 884 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: aspect of it. 885 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: The guys asked Nick Casio. 886 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: Do you see more complex stuff defensively in a joint 887 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: practice than you would in a preseason game. 888 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: Here's what Nick had to say. 889 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, you might sprinkle some things in there, Seth. The 890 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 11: reality is everybody is gonna probably talk about it. Well, 891 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 11: we did this practice, we did that. So you're gonna 892 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 11: run your defense, you're gonna run your offense. Maybe you're 893 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 11: gonna work on something maybe that you haven't worked on 894 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 11: to this point, or like I said, give the opposition 895 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 11: a different look. So honestly, you want to try to 896 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 11: make it as taxing or as difficult as possible, because 897 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 11: it's kind of like the game. You might go into 898 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 11: a game, haven't seen that before? Something comes up there 899 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 11: and the course of the game. How are we gonna 900 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 11: handle it, how are we gonna adjust to it? What's 901 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 11: a communication? You can spend some time I'm on the 902 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 11: sideline in between series. So there's a number of different 903 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 11: ways that you know you can tackle this. But you 904 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 11: might be some things in practice that you're not going 905 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 11: to do in the game, that you're gonna just do 906 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 11: in practice, and maybe it's something that you're going to 907 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 11: use in a regular season. Understanding it's a long year, 908 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 11: you're probably gonna end up using everything at some point 909 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 11: along the way. 910 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: This past Sunday, Texas made a trade with Philadelphi Eagles. 911 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: And if you feel like you've heard those two teams 912 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: in the trade before, it's happened. It's happened a few times. 913 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: In fact, it happened this offseason. I think it happened 914 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: during a draft probably as well. It was John Metchie 915 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: moving to Philadelphia with a draft pick coming the other 916 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 2: way to Houston, Harrison Bryant tight end and a draft pick. 917 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: It basically netted out to Kenyan Green and John Metchi 918 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 2: for CJ. Gardner, Johnson and Harrison Bryant draft picks moved 919 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: back into their original ownership et cetera. So it essentially 920 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 2: if you net out those two trades, want to happen 921 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: in in March ish and want it happened on Sunday, 922 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: it was that Kenyan and Mechi for Harrison Riot, CJ. 923 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson Trading Mechi was gonna be well, it's gonna 924 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: be difficult on everybody, just because of the guy that 925 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 2: John Metchi is, what he has meant to this city, 926 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: what he's meant to the Texans, the fight that he 927 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: had in twenty twenty two where he healed up from 928 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: an acl was getting himself ready to play, and then 929 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: finds out he has cancer. Mechi will always be remember, 930 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that. But Nick ed to give 931 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 2: the guy an opportunity somewhere else he probably wasn't gonna 932 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: get here. 933 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 1: Here's Nick Cassario on trading John Metchi. 934 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, there's never one particular factor that you know forces 935 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 11: you to make a decision. I would say that position 936 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 11: is probably as deep as is any position on a team. 937 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 11: You're gonna end up keeping, HOVERMNT receivers you're gonna keep, 938 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 11: and as it pertains to Mets, I mean, Demiko was 939 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 11: asked about it yesterday I mean I feel the same 940 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 11: way that Demiko does. I mean, love everything about John. 941 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 11: Everybody knows his story, what he's been through to get 942 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 11: to this point. He's a good football player, He's meant 943 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 11: a lot to this program. He's done a lot for 944 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 11: this program, and I think in that particular situation, it's 945 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 11: a good opportunity for him in Philadelphia where he probably 946 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 11: has a chance to maybe have a bigger role than 947 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 11: he potentially could have had here, just given our depth 948 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 11: currently on the roster. Now could that change in the 949 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 11: blink of an eye for sure, So there's a calculus 950 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 11: that goes into it. I'd say that was a situation 951 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 11: where Hollie and I had some discussions and then we 952 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 11: were able to come to a resolution. And I think 953 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 11: we've done I don't know, seven or eight trades with Philadelphia. 954 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 11: I think Howie and I, I mean, I respect the way 955 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 11: how he goes about his business, and I think there's 956 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 11: a mutual respect and understanding there honestly giving him a 957 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 11: chance to go to a situation where he is a 958 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 11: pretty good opportunity. You know, we felt like it was 959 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 11: the right thing by John as well, and just given 960 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 11: you our situation, I mean could he have helped us, Yeah, absolutely, 961 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 11: he has helped us over the course of his career. 962 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 11: But I mean that's these are decisions that we all 963 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 11: have that we have to make, and you know, we 964 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 11: make the decision that we feel is best for the 965 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 11: team and we kind of keep moving forward. 966 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think match has got a better chance with Philly, 967 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people you'll hear that, 968 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: and I say this a lot of times. Look, there 969 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 2: might be a better opportunity for a player here in 970 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: Houston then there might be in Cleveland. 971 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: But John Houston so much better in Cleveland. 972 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are always teams that have got pockets 973 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: and really good units of players that you just can't 974 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: break into. But here you might have an opportunity to, 975 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe be a corner. Maybe up in 976 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: Cleveland with Denzel Ward, Greg Newsom, Martin Emerson, with the 977 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: guys they have at corner in Cleveland, you might not 978 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 2: have a great opportunity to crack into that top five. 979 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: Maybe here in Houston you've got a better opportunity, even 980 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 2: though they've got the best corner in the league. 981 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: So it all can vary. I think with the Eagles 982 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: and what they've. 983 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: Got going on wide receiver Dante Smith, AJ Brown, John Dotson. 984 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 2: After that, it's kind of a free for all and 985 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson there's six to seven wide receiver apparently was 986 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 2: taken off on a cart yesterday. So maybe that opens 987 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: up more opportunities for Mechi. We had the team that 988 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl last year, more than he was 989 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 2: gonna get here, especially with adding Christian Kirk, adding Jalen Noel, 990 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: adding Jayden Higgins, adding Braxton Barrios, adding Justin Watson in 991 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: this offseason. So from that point, maybe there's a better 992 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: opportunity there. And I think that's what Nick was getting at. 993 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 2: It's a good opportunity up there at Philadelphia. Hopefully John 994 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 2: hits the ground running. You can find himself some opportunity 995 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: there in Philly, especially alongside a quarterback that he knows 996 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 2: from his days at Alabama Jalen Hurts. Mamechi trade was 997 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: just one of the many roster machinations that are forthcoming 998 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 2: for the Texans. 999 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: Are there more trades? 1000 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 3: Are there? 1001 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: More waiver claims? Are there? More moves there? 1002 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 2: Obviously was a transaction on Wednesday morning bringing long snapper 1003 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 2: Blake Ferguson He's a guy that's got a lot of experience. 1004 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: In this league. 1005 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: So bring another long snapper, give him an opportunity as well, 1006 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: alongside Austin Brickman. Trey McKinty released at that point, and 1007 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 2: again it's kind of in a sense all interconnected. You 1008 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 2: trade Mechi for Harrison Bryant because Harrison Bryant comes in 1009 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: a guy, and Trey McKinney, you just picked up a 1010 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 2: few days ago, ends up being the guy that is 1011 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 2: released because you have a need somewhere else. 1012 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: That's just kind of the way it goes. 1013 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 2: But just all the roster machinations at this point of 1014 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 2: the year can make things pretty difficult when it comes 1015 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: to roster cutdown Day one in particular, that Nick remembers 1016 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: from his days with the New England Patriots actually is 1017 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 2: staring at him right in the face here in Houston 1018 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: with one of those positions I talked about at wide receiver. 1019 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 2: Take a listen to this. The hardest player potentially that 1020 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 2: he ever had to cut. 1021 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 11: It happens probably almost every year, you know, because when 1022 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 11: you get to the final cut, I mean there's a 1023 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 11: thousand or so players that are essentially going to be 1024 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 11: exposed to the rest of the league, and you understand 1025 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 11: you can't keep everybody as much as you want to. 1026 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 11: So honestly, I mean not that because he here in 1027 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 11: Houston with us, But we went through this situation with 1028 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 11: Barrios when we had him, you know, when I was 1029 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 11: in New England. 1030 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: He was really close. 1031 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 11: We released him with the idea of we're going to 1032 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 11: try to get him on a practice squad and he 1033 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 11: ends up getting claimed and we don't see him for 1034 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 11: until six or seven years later. Now, I mean Barry 1035 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 11: Braxton's with us here now in Houston, But I mean 1036 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 11: that's a situation. I mean, look, there's multiple examples that 1037 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 11: that are like that. It happens every year, so it's 1038 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 11: a very fluid situation. I would say that snapshot is 1039 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 11: not the final snapshot of what it's going to look like. 1040 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 11: So we have to be nimble, We have to be 1041 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 11: able to adjust and adapt, and if there's an opportunity 1042 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 11: to add a player that we feel can help us, 1043 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 11: whether it's now or in the future, then we have 1044 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 11: to weigh a calculus of what does that look like 1045 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 11: relative to exposing another player or moving on from another 1046 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 11: player that is quote unquote made the initial. 1047 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: Roster, so Braxton Barrios. 1048 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 2: Of all the players, Barrios is the one that comes 1049 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: to mind for Nick, and I mean it makes sense, Adaman, Welker, Barrios, 1050 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 2: there are some similarities with all of those guys and Mondola. 1051 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 2: The Patriots seemed to hoard very quick, explosive out of 1052 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 2: their cuts, great hands, tough athletes to play in the slot, 1053 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 2: and Barrios is definitely one of those guys. But one 1054 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: thing that Nick said at the end of that, which 1055 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 2: I think is, you know, hugely important. The fifty three 1056 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: is this fluid being, if you will, it's always moving. 1057 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: There are always things changing. Even if once you get 1058 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 2: to the three pm cutdown on Tuesday, well don't mean 1059 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 2: you've made the team. There are gonna be some moves. 1060 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: There might be trades after the fact. There might be 1061 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 2: a trade before the fact. There might be a waiver 1062 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 2: claim after the fact, And a waiver claim has got 1063 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 2: to go on to the fifty three. And as far 1064 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 2: as I can remember, it says Nick has been here 1065 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, there's always been at least one 1066 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 2: waiver claim that happened after the fifty three and cut down. 1067 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: So even if you feel like you've made it. 1068 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 2: Hang on because you just don't know exactly what might happen, 1069 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 2: and it might take a week or so. But I 1070 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 2: think this fifty three man cut down is it's the 1071 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: right way of saying this. 1072 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I can see where it's going. 1073 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 2: But I know there are gonna be surprises along the 1074 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 2: way in what they do to bring players back. 1075 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: So even though on mine, I've oh, I got it perfect. 1076 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 2: If I got twenty four offense, twenty six defense, three specials, 1077 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 2: I got my fifty three, there's gonna be at least 1078 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 2: one or two players coming in from somewhere else in 1079 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 2: some way, shape or form. I'm just curious as to 1080 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 2: what and who those players are going to be. But 1081 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: that's for next week. We got to get through this 1082 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 2: week with the Detroit Lions, and that will start tomorrow 1083 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 2: at the Lions practice facility. Looking forward to seeing them 1084 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: up close. Saw them up close last year and that 1085 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 2: was a really good football team. But excited to see 1086 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson up close. I would imagine he's gonna practice, 1087 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 2: so looking forward to seeing him. Those two running backs 1088 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 2: are so so very good. The offensive line has always 1089 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: been good, but they're breaking in some new pieces, they 1090 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 2: lost a piece of free agency, they lost Frank Ragnow 1091 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 2: to retirement. They've got two new coordinators, Johnny Morton and offense, 1092 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 2: Kevin Sheppard on defense, so it's gonna have probably a 1093 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 2: little bit of a different look. But the DB's against 1094 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: i'mon Ross, Saint Brown, Jamison Williams. That's gonna be a 1095 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 2: fun battle. It's a fun battle Sunday night. So that's 1096 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 2: gonna be really, really good. So we're looking forward to 1097 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 2: all of that and we're gonna bring it to you 1098 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 2: all from up in Detroit over the next few days. 1099 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 2: Then we'll be back and get ready for the twenty 1100 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: twenty five regular season. Appreciate you guys being with me 1101 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 2: this evening. Thank you so very much. We'll see you 1102 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 2: tomorrow from Detroit on this very station, Sports Radio six ten. 1103 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 2: Thanks to everybody, Thank you for listening. As always, Go Texans.