Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and Getty
Speaker 1: and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2: Chipotle has announced that it plans to open a restaurant
Speaker 2: in Mexico next year. Meanwhile, the Olive Garden in Italy
Speaker 2: was just burned to the ground. Is sonata basta?
Speaker 3: I haven't eaten at the OG in a long time.
Speaker 3: I should take the kids see what they think of it.
Speaker 1: George w. Bush was striding the halls of the White House.
Speaker 1: I believe last time I was in an olive garden,
Speaker 1: you're still good of that level. Food is like anything else.
Speaker 3: And what's the name of that those kind of restaurants
Speaker 3: Olive Garden, Red Robin, Applebee's, What's Fast Casual maybe something
Speaker 3: like that. They're all about the same but the same price,
Speaker 3: but same taste no matter what.
Speaker 1: It is a shocking number of calories for a surprisingly
Speaker 1: reasonable price, right right, yeah, yeah, coming up. The House
Speaker 1: actually did something yesterday, Jack, which is odd or this
Speaker 1: week anyway, as the House of Representatives Congress, the Article
Speaker 1: one branch of the Constitution does nothing anymore. As I
Speaker 1: pointed out, last, or they're like the Queen of England.
Speaker 1: They have purely ceremonial duties. Anyway, more on that to
Speaker 1: come a shocking number of calories, is right. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about the salad at someplace like that the other day,
Speaker 1: Applebee's something like that. The salad was like twenty two
Speaker 1: hundred calories. It's just insane. That's something, you know. It's
Speaker 1: partly age, I think, in partly a self recognition and
Speaker 1: on my part that I have no self control. But
Speaker 1: I've gone from really pleased that a restaurant gives me
Speaker 1: ridiculous portions because I'm getting my money's worth, to being
Speaker 1: really pleased when they don't.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't think I've ever enjoyed the giant portion.
Speaker 3: It's like, why is this so big? I think every
Speaker 3: time they said it in front of me, I've gotten
Speaker 3: better at especially if it's just Henry and me, we
Speaker 3: order something and cut it in half. First of all,
Speaker 3: it costs half as much to eat, and secondly we
Speaker 3: both get stuffed eating is half of.
Speaker 1: What they sent us. I am a fan of the
Speaker 1: First Amendment, as anybody who listens to this show knows,
Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of doubtfit I would like to see
Speaker 1: government restrictions on the serving size of French fries. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, how many French fries are enough? Like Red Robin,
Speaker 1: which I think has the best French fries around. I
Speaker 1: love their French fries. They're good, aren't they, Michael, They're delicious.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, those are good French fries. But they
Speaker 3: have bottomless French fries. So the consonant you, what do
Speaker 3: you want more? You want us to bring you another
Speaker 3: bucket of French fries?
Speaker 1: Oh? The frea. Oh and I love him. I love
Speaker 1: him so much. If you know I'm going to be
Speaker 1: executed finally for all of my crimes, my last meal
Speaker 1: might just be French fries. That's funny, Henry.
Speaker 3: Henry and I had that penciple is a food. We
Speaker 3: got into that last night walking home from the gym.
Speaker 3: For some reason. Henry hit me with if if you're
Speaker 3: going to be executed, what would be last meal? And
Speaker 3: of course I had to go with the caveat of well,
Speaker 3: I think I'd be so remorseful over the horrifying crime
Speaker 3: that committed. He said, you were unjustly accused, You're wrongfully accused.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a clever dodge by your boy. What a
Speaker 1: fine lad he is. Anyway, did you settle on something?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, some sort of fried chicken, gravy mashed potato
Speaker 3: sort of thing for me.
Speaker 1: Wow, good call, very good call. Sorry about your unjust execution,
Speaker 1: but excellent choice that meal. So you may recall we
Speaker 1: talked about this.
Speaker 3: I'll just put the complete failure of the justicism aside
Speaker 3: and enjoy this meal. And indeed the most urious an
Speaker 3: irrevocable sanction a government can lay upon a citizen administered unjustly.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, that meal was finger licking. So
Speaker 3: anyway way, you win some, you lose some.
Speaker 1: You may recall us discussing the wayward wisconstant judge who
Speaker 1: aided and embedded the escape of a felon, Yes, a felon,
Speaker 1: I will explain in a moment or two. John Roberts
Speaker 1: and Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, were discussing the case
Speaker 1: on Fox News. And this is as good a play
Speaker 1: by play as we've come across. So here it is.
Speaker 4: So let me read a little bit from the criminal
Speaker 4: complaint here, and Judge Dugan says, despite having been advised
Speaker 4: of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz.
Speaker 4: Judge Dugan then escorted Flores Ruiz and his counsel out
Speaker 4: of the courtroom through the jury door, which leads to
Speaker 4: a non public area of the courthouse.
Speaker 1: A foot chase ensued.
Speaker 4: The agents pursued Flora's Ruiz for the entire link to
Speaker 4: the courthouse, and ultimately apprehended him. According to this complaint,
Speaker 4: Judge Jiggin was visibly angry that Ice was there to
Speaker 4: arrest Flores Ruiz even tried to kick the deportation agents
Speaker 4: out of the courthouse.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and to set the stage for you and Sandra
Speaker 5: that this was truly horrific. This guy was in court
Speaker 5: being prosecuted by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery.
Speaker 5: He had beat up two people, a guy.
Speaker 1: And a girl.
Speaker 5: Beat the guy, the hif guy thirty times, knocked him
Speaker 5: to the ground, choked him, beat up a woman so
Speaker 5: badly they both had to go to the hospital. And John,
Speaker 5: you know, it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate.
Speaker 5: They wanted to cooperate. They were sitting in the courtroom
Speaker 5: with the state prosecutor. The judge learns that Ice was
Speaker 5: outside to get the guy because he had been deported
Speaker 5: in twenty thirteen, came back in our country, commits these crimes.
Speaker 5: Charged with committing these crimes. Victims in court. Judge finds out.
Speaker 5: She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers.
Speaker 5: She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk
Speaker 5: to the chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom.
Speaker 5: Here canna believe this, takes the defendant, the defense attorney
Speaker 5: back in her chambers, takes him out of private exit,
Speaker 5: and tells him to leave while a state prosecutor and
Speaker 5: victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
Speaker 3: You know, we were talking last hour about how Trump
Speaker 3: overreached on some of these kicking people out of the
Speaker 3: country and you know, did more harm than good. The
Speaker 3: Democrats are really overreaching, unsupporting this person.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and several others. Yeah, yeah, I know what
Speaker 1: we'll do. We'll stand up for illegal alien gang member felons.
Speaker 1: That's the ticket back to power. How about the judge
Speaker 1: visibly shaken? Yeah, because I showed up. You're nut. You
Speaker 1: should not be a judge. You have bad judgment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's an ideological extremist. No, doubt Interestingly, I was reading
Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy in the National Review. He's a legal expert
Speaker 1: who we've talked to many times, but he says prosecuting
Speaker 1: her could be tougher than you think for various constitutional reasons.
Speaker 1: She has a pretty good defense. But from a strictly
Speaker 1: politics running a society, how crazy are these people angle?
Speaker 1: She is way overboard.
Speaker 3: Here is a guy who is not only a gang member,
Speaker 3: a woman beater, beat up BA Jesus out of a
Speaker 3: fella over a stupid domestic concern.
Speaker 1: He is an illegal immigrant who has and I don't
Speaker 1: have the legal code in front of me, and it's
Speaker 1: odd this article admits it. But he had the immediate
Speaker 1: deportation without a hearing ruling on him having snuck in,
Speaker 1: committed crimes, gotten booted out, snuck in again. He had
Speaker 1: the if you see this guy put his ass on.
Speaker 3: A plane and get rid of him, you don't have
Speaker 3: to ask a judge ruling. And this guy's back in
Speaker 3: court for victimizing more people, and this judge is so outraged,
Speaker 3: maybe for reasons of state jurisdiction versus the federal government,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. I've been reading about it, but I've
Speaker 3: filed a writ of circus Maximus Jack, and I don't
Speaker 3: believe that defense is going to hold up. I'm still
Speaker 3: waiting for the paperwork to come back.
Speaker 1: But the idea that you would usher this guy out
Speaker 1: practically a fire escape. Not just tell the marshals, no,
Speaker 1: we don't cooperate with the federal authorities. You can't use
Speaker 1: the state's you know, mechanisms to do federal stuff. That's
Speaker 1: not the way the constitution works.
Speaker 3: No, she personally ushered this guy out, like into the
Speaker 3: parking lot so we could make a run for it.
Speaker 1: Holy cow.
Speaker 3: Trumped arrangement syndrome is an actual thing on both sides, actually,
Speaker 3: but it's an actual thing.
Speaker 1: It makes people crazy. Yeah yeah, and you know there's
Speaker 1: a certain percentage of people who suffer from Trump I'm
Speaker 1: in love syndrome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was applying the same term to both sides.
Speaker 3: You're deranged, You're overlooking some obvious things either way, but
Speaker 3: that's you're shaking. You're so upset that this guy's going
Speaker 3: to get booted out.
Speaker 1: Really yeah yeah, well, certainly this gal is going to
Speaker 1: be booted out of the judge ship. There are a
Speaker 1: couple of similar cases back in the day in various
Speaker 1: very blue cities where judges did something similar. And again,
Speaker 1: the proven the criminal charges is kind of fraught for
Speaker 1: reasons I don't want to get into. It's a little complicated,
Speaker 1: but they certainly ought not to be a judge. Absolutely
Speaker 1: outrageous and idiotic. Yeah, that's probably enough Trump talk for now.
Speaker 1: But the poll number. Can you imagine the poll numbers
Speaker 1: if you're just a very simple and neutral description of
Speaker 1: the facts of the case and then put it before Americans,
Speaker 1: Oh please, it'd be ninety five to five. So that
Speaker 1: five percent are probably trendy IRAGUA members.
Speaker 3: So CNN's headline on one of the big stories of
Speaker 3: the day, economic growth sharply declines. Is it sharply declined?
Speaker 3: It's it's shrinking. Our GDP actually sharply shrunker point three percent.
Speaker 3: I guess if we were cruising along at growth of whatever,
Speaker 3: it was two and a half percent. That's a three
Speaker 3: percent drop any good, almost three percent.
Speaker 1: That's brutal. Ultra processed foods may be linked to early death.
Speaker 1: Speaking of your dietary choices, I'm telling you I don't
Speaker 1: go for food crazes, not pro not con I don't
Speaker 1: have a pantry full of keen.
Speaker 3: I don't meant anything smaller than my fist, or anything
Speaker 3: that a caveman wouldn't beaten, or all kinds of different
Speaker 3: rules I have because I follow every diet.
Speaker 1: I don't really, but I'm telling you the the evidence
Speaker 1: is really starting to pile up about ultra processed foods.
Speaker 1: Stay with us.
Speaker 3: It's not hard to believe that if it's in a
Speaker 3: sealed plastic sack and it could stay perfectly okay for
Speaker 3: like nine years in that sack, it's not good for you.
Speaker 1: It's not hard to worry. I pointed out the other day.
Speaker 1: The health of this animal has changed completely, its body shape,
Speaker 1: its function, everything. Well, it's eating something completely different than
Speaker 1: it's eaten for its entire history on Earth.
Speaker 3: No, that's not it, all right, Joe's become RFK Junior. Okay,
Speaker 3: we got more on the ways.
Speaker 1: Stay here. Every time we.
Speaker 6: Hear a Hispanic name on TV, whether or not the
Speaker 6: anchor is Hispanic, we suddenly have to shape shift into
Speaker 6: a perfect Hispanic accent.
Speaker 1: Police arrested twenty five year old elan Alain Sanchez.
Speaker 6: And I mean that, honestly. Why do we do that?
Speaker 6: When I say Alejandra Myorcis. I just say Alejandra Myorcis,
Speaker 6: but on CNN it's Alejandra Majorkis.
Speaker 1: I'm Irish.
Speaker 6: When police arrests someone with an Irish name, I don't
Speaker 6: say police just arrested twenty five year old Charlie mcglothin.
Speaker 1: Stop that stop fabulous. That's pretty funny. I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really stands out on NPR, does it over
Speaker 3: the top? Everything was Wow, that's such a well do
Speaker 3: it with Asian names? Come on now?
Speaker 1: Wow? Right, Oh this is gonna be my let me
Speaker 1: count one hundred and thirty third jihad this topic. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm really gonna have to use AI to schedule it?
Speaker 1: Rantings and ravings? What did I come across with AI yesterday?
Speaker 3: Something AI that was just phenomenal around video stuff Again,
Speaker 3: that's where AI is clearly making a mark. I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's going to take over the world in
Speaker 3: a lot of the other ways that they've been claiming,
Speaker 3: but man, the stuff it can do with video with
Speaker 3: just you know, a couple of prompts is.
Speaker 1: Stunning, mind blowing. My favorite amusing interesting piece of journalism
Speaker 1: about AI next hour. There are various apps jack that
Speaker 1: record everything you say for your own good what they
Speaker 1: do with that information will jacque. Actually, it's it's thought.
Speaker 3: Provoking records everything on my that my phone can hear. H.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a device you wear, but yeah, it works
Speaker 1: through your phone. It works through your phone. Yeah essentially. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: So this is getting some mockery. Oh it was good.
Speaker 3: There's an article in the New York Times, a hot
Speaker 3: accessory at the intersection of faith and culture, seen on influencers,
Speaker 3: pop stars and White House staff. Cross necklaces are popping
Speaker 3: up everywhere, and it's getting mockery from the parts of
Speaker 3: the country where people been wearing cross necklaces forever. Like
Speaker 3: I think every girl I've ever dated in my life
Speaker 3: life or across necklace.
Speaker 1: At some point.
Speaker 3: So the idea that The New York Times is acting
Speaker 3: like this is some interesting intersection of faith and culture
Speaker 3: that has occurred is just an example of how out
Speaker 3: of touch they are with the giant chunk of America that,
Speaker 3: for instance, has voted for Trump twice. New York is
Speaker 3: a fascinating place in so many ways. I am pro
Speaker 3: New York, but New Yorker's self regard has annoyed me since.
Speaker 1: I was eleven years old, No kidding. The rest of
Speaker 1: us are quite happy and fascinated by life and have
Speaker 1: many opportunities for art, culture, the outdoors, et cetera. Whatever
Speaker 1: we prefer, we're fine. We're not lesser being well. Right.
Speaker 3: The thing that annoys me about New York and to
Speaker 3: a certain extent, LA and lots of big cities really,
Speaker 3: but in particular New York and LA is the people
Speaker 3: who live there, their assumption that we all want to
Speaker 3: be there. We just haven't figured out how to get
Speaker 3: there yet trying, we just haven't been successful enough to
Speaker 3: live there. And you know, they're and that's fine. I
Speaker 3: love New York and Los Angeles. But everybody doesn't want
Speaker 3: to live there. There are some people, I know, that's funny.
Speaker 3: I was listening to Jonah Goldberg the other day on
Speaker 3: a podcast, and he grew up on the Upper West Side,
Speaker 3: you know, right next to Central Park. That's the way
Speaker 3: he grew up. And he was saying some things that
Speaker 3: I and he was just so wrong about. I wish
Speaker 3: I could have had a conversation, like a loving conversation
Speaker 3: with him, saying, dude, you just and I don't blame
Speaker 3: you for not knowing you grew up with a completely
Speaker 3: different lifestyle than I did. But I know plenty of
Speaker 3: people who might kill themselves if they had to live
Speaker 3: in New York. They would contemplate suicide if they had
Speaker 3: to live in New.
Speaker 1: York, right, right, I'll never forget. And it's universal. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've talked about this, having moved around the country, Fairmount.
Speaker 1: You live in Kansas, they talk about how stupid Missourians are,
Speaker 1: sure whatever, and you're in France they say Belgians are
Speaker 1: more just everybody likes to you know, it's a human foible,
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget. I was having a conversation with
Speaker 1: a friend in the San Francisco Bay Area years ago,
Speaker 1: and at the conclusion of a long conversation about his
Speaker 1: brutal commute and his awful taxes and is incomprehensible mortgage
Speaker 1: payments and the rest of it, a town outside the
Speaker 1: Bay area came up, and he was like, oh, poor bastards, right,
Speaker 1: if only they could live in the Bay Area. I'm like, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: never mind, anyway.
Speaker 3: One thing about moving my whole life, and then as
Speaker 3: an adult also is realizing that everybody loves where they're from,
Speaker 3: and I wish just more people would understand you like
Speaker 3: where you're from.
Speaker 1: That's perfectly fine. You don't need to hate on other places.
Speaker 3: You like where you're from because it's what you're familiar with,
Speaker 3: your people, your friends, your stuff.
Speaker 1: That's perfectly all right.
Speaker 3: But you don't have to pretend that you have to
Speaker 3: hate all the other places. But everybody does.
Speaker 1: It's human nature, apparently, especially because we're all Americans. Except
Speaker 1: for legal immigrants, you're not get out except for twenty
Speaker 1: million illegal immigrants. I know what you're thinking. Did they
Speaker 1: correctly solve the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby. Maybe you
Speaker 1: weren't thinking that that case might get blown wide open.
Speaker 1: State A lot of good stuff to come, I know.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7: The child at the museum scratching a fifty six million
Speaker 7: dollar painting in Rotterdam. Museum workers having to remove the
Speaker 7: famous painting by artist Mark Rothko. They say it was
Speaker 7: scratched in several places. The museum believes it can be restored.
Speaker 7: No word on whether the family will he be held
Speaker 7: responsible in any sort of way.
Speaker 3: How about if you're looking at a fifty six million
Speaker 3: dollar painting, you don't let your kid go up and
Speaker 3: have so much time alone with the painting that they
Speaker 3: scratch it multiple times with their little fingers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. I looked at this painting, though,
Speaker 1: and I like art. I'd buy art, not like expensive art,
Speaker 1: but and I like abstract art. I can't, for the
Speaker 1: life of me, understand how this painting could be worth
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars. It reminds me of some
Speaker 1: of the what are the forkingness sakes, the electronic WHATSITs
Speaker 1: that people bought for like a week and a half NFTs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: reminds me of NFTs. The value of that painting is
Speaker 1: that other people think it has value. There's nothing intrinsically
Speaker 1: great about it. It's okay, I guess in general, I
Speaker 1: said this after I got back from Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: And going to a bunch of museums.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people take to their kids to
Speaker 3: museums and places like that. The kids have zero interest
Speaker 3: in being there zero. I guess you feel like you're
Speaker 3: exposing them to culture or something, but they're paying no
Speaker 3: attention and they have no interest.
Speaker 1: So plenty of politics to talk about. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of us are a little burned out after the
Speaker 1: frenzy of Trump's first one hundred days blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: never ending yelling at each other, so, at least for
Speaker 1: one segment, some decidedly non political stuff. The evidence is
Speaker 1: mounting both US researchers and European researchers saying that people
Speaker 1: who eat lots of ultra processed foods may be at
Speaker 1: greater risk of dyeing. A study in eight countries, including
Speaker 1: the UK and the US, suggest.
Speaker 3: Greater risk of dying. That's right up there on your
Speaker 3: health concerns. Among things I'd like to avoid. Yeah, processed meats.
Speaker 3: My wife and I talked about this.
Speaker 1: She is like, by even American standards, a bacon enthusiast. Boy,
Speaker 1: I am doing yeah, yeah, probably for it.
Speaker 3: I probably have bacon half a day's Oh wow, it's
Speaker 3: not good for you.
Speaker 1: Why is it not good for you? It's processed, processed.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? It's the salt and smoke and
Speaker 1: all sorts of I don't remember what. Am I a chemist?
Speaker 1: But yes, I consider it a process meat.
Speaker 3: I get why I shouldn't eat cheese, its or all
Speaker 3: kinds of things in plastic sacks, but bacon really?
Speaker 1: So anyway? Processed meats, look it up, cookies, fizzy during
Speaker 1: soft drinks, ice cream. Some breakfast cereals. Upfs, ultra processed
Speaker 1: foods tend to contain more than five ingredients which are
Speaker 1: not usually found in home cooking, such as additive sweeteners
Speaker 1: and chemicals to improve the food's texture or appearance.
Speaker 3: That's interesting some cereals, because like I eat grape nuts
Speaker 3: and I think there's or cheerios. There's like two ingredients
Speaker 3: on cheerios oats and I think that's it. Same with
Speaker 3: grape nuts. So is that it's in a plastic sack.
Speaker 3: There's something going on.
Speaker 1: You know. The rule of thumb I always see cited
Speaker 1: is look for ingredients you don't know what they are
Speaker 1: or you don't have in your kitchen. That's that's a
Speaker 1: pretty good standard. Now it's worth pointing out. Some experts
Speaker 1: say it's not really clear why upfs are linked to
Speaker 1: poor health. There's little evidence it's down to the processing itself.
Speaker 1: Could be because the these foods contain high levels of fat, salt,
Speaker 1: and sugar and are associated with poorer lifestyle choice. That's
Speaker 1: what I was going to say. Whatever you call that.
Speaker 3: Could it be people that eat the simplest to eat foods,
Speaker 3: have all kinds of other things.
Speaker 1: They most likely do.
Speaker 3: You're more likely to not exercise, to smoke, to drink more,
Speaker 3: to all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: It's certainly possible.
Speaker 3: It's not surprising that people like me, who you know,
Speaker 3: go for the easy food in a plastic sack, have.
Speaker 1: A bunch of other non healthy things going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you have a well designed study, you tease out
Speaker 1: all of those other factors. But it's extremely difficult to do.
Speaker 1: And you're talking about lifestyle, general lifestyle, overall, diet, exercise,
Speaker 1: of health, wealth, you know all those habits. Anyway, but
Speaker 1: they looked at people's diets and data on deaths from Australia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Columbia,
Speaker 1: mech the UK, and the US. That's a pretty broad
Speaker 1: swath or mortal enemy. Oh no, no, oh boy, don't
Speaker 1: get me started anyway. Uh moving along, I thought this
Speaker 1: was interesting. Speaking of diet, scientists have created three D
Speaker 1: printed calamari with more protein than real squid.
Speaker 3: So many questions, Wow, no kidding, three D printed calamari, Yes,
Speaker 3: and using mung bean protein and what and microalgae? But
Speaker 3: in what sense is it calamari couldn't you call it
Speaker 3: whatever you want? This is birthday cake, this is calamari,
Speaker 3: this is steak, it's none of those things.
Speaker 1: Well I was going to say, well, yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: surely it would have the taste and texture of calamari.
Speaker 1: But then it says the uh blah blah blah, producing
Speaker 1: calamari mimics that were softer, spring here and structurally similar
Speaker 1: to real calamari without relying on fished marine resources.
Speaker 3: Three D printed calamari, I just I just don't see
Speaker 3: myself eating that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this innovation highlights a promising future for sustainable
Speaker 1: seafood alternatives, leveraging under used crops like mung beans and
Speaker 1: algae to reduce pressure on ocean ecosystems.
Speaker 3: Do they all have to be in favor of that?
Speaker 3: Do they all have to be appetizers? Can you fax
Speaker 3: me some onion rings?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they've successfully three D printed plant
Speaker 1: based calamari rings that closely mimic both the texture and
Speaker 1: protein content of real squid. How the damn stuff taste?
Speaker 3: I think they since we were tiny kids, and probably
Speaker 3: before that, they've been working all these things that people
Speaker 3: are never going to need or do I feel like
Speaker 3: they're prepared before when when first there's not going to
Speaker 3: be any food, So you know, we got to eat
Speaker 3: stuff out of a tube that kind of looks like
Speaker 3: steak and you spread it on your your fake bread
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: But why why they're always doing this is there?
Speaker 3: I believe that we're gonna have a real serious food
Speaker 3: shortage worldwide at some point. Well over fishery of the
Speaker 3: oceans is Overfishing is a thing, as the kids say,
Speaker 3: it's a concern. But with the population probably having peaked
Speaker 3: in decline it now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. A completely different topic. I mentioned this
Speaker 1: earlier one to pay it Off. Eighty nine years ago
Speaker 1: this month, a man named Bruno Richard Hoptman was executed
Speaker 1: by the state of New Jersey for what the press
Speaker 1: was calling the crime of the century.
Speaker 3: He's stood accused of kidnapping and murdering Charles Lindbergh Junior,
Speaker 3: the twenty month old son of the most admired man
Speaker 3: in America, of the famous Charles Lindberg. Just a trans
Speaker 3: atlantic flight, blah blah blah, Just a horrible story. Like
Speaker 3: the biggest celebrity in America was Charles Lindberg. So pick
Speaker 3: whoever the biggest celebrity is now maybe Elon. Somebody sneaks
Speaker 3: in the house and takes a twenty month old and
Speaker 3: kills them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, brutal. Yeah. So I'd always been dimly aware of
Speaker 1: the controversy surrounding this case, but it just hasn't been
Speaker 1: one of those things I've bothered to look into in
Speaker 1: my life. But the more I look into it, the
Speaker 1: more intriguing slash troubling it is. Quoting from Jonas Eara
Speaker 1: and Poppy Damon in the Free Press, there have been long,
Speaker 1: long been questions about whether Hopmann was in fact the
Speaker 1: kidnapped or kidnapper, questions that could be easily answered with
Speaker 1: DNA testing, which the state of New Jersey has long resisted,
Speaker 1: and some researchers have filed suit to compel the state
Speaker 1: to allow forensic scientists to do the testing. And it's
Speaker 1: thought pretty strongly that if they do the testing, this
Speaker 1: guy's guilt or innocence will be established. They mentioned that
Speaker 1: kidnapping children of the rich for ransom money was fairly
Speaker 1: common during the depression. Wow, but Little Lindy's kidnapping, as
Speaker 1: they called him, was a media sensation for reasons obviously,
Speaker 1: it was discovered ten weeks later the baby had died.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, Americans were so eager to see
Speaker 1: Hoppman fried that there were actually execution parties at local
Speaker 1: hotel ballrooms on the night he was put to death
Speaker 1: in Trenton. The lights dimmed as the deed was carried
Speaker 1: out because electric chairs required so much electricity in the thirties.
Speaker 1: But there's always been a great deal of doubt about
Speaker 1: Hoppman's guilt, starting with the governor at the time, Harold Hoffmann.
Speaker 1: Haupman was a German immigrant, and in the thirties, anti
Speaker 1: German sentiment was running high. To be like now, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: although our justice system is a lot more regimented and
Speaker 1: transparent now, but public opinion wise, yes, yes, agreed, yeah.
Speaker 1: Or an Iranian maybe well or not really it were
Speaker 1: with Iran anyway, Well, we weren't at war with Germany
Speaker 1: at the time. So the investigation was a slap dash
Speaker 1: affair full of leads that were ignored in an astonishing breach,
Speaker 1: the New Jersey State Police, who were in charge, let
Speaker 1: Lindberg himself call the shots. What's more, Housman Hopman's trial
Speaker 1: was a travesty, with prosecutors pushing the evidence beyond all
Speaker 1: bounds where he tried. By today's standards, it is a
Speaker 1: near certainty that Hoppman would be found not guilty. Really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's a couple of pretty responsible journalists because they
Speaker 1: believe he didn't do it, or they just think there's
Speaker 1: there there wouldn't be.
Speaker 3: There's not enough to find him guilty and convictim. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the evidence was very, very thin. But it's been a
Speaker 3: long time. I mean, if there had been in somebody
Speaker 3: else who was responsible.
Speaker 1: Oughn't that would have come out by now.
Speaker 3: Somebody would have admitted to it, or a friend would
Speaker 3: have admitted to it. Yeah, I was my old friend Bill,
Speaker 3: he did it or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There have probably have been all sorts of false
Speaker 1: confessions that sort. Maybe a true one, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But final note on this Today, all the Lindbergh evidence
Speaker 1: resides at the New Jersey State Police Museum. The journalists
Speaker 1: say we've visited and seen for ourselves. The latter allegedly
Speaker 1: used to access the child's bedroom window and handwriting samples
Speaker 1: in a public display, but one can find in an
Speaker 1: archive archive that is not accessible to the public. The
Speaker 1: fifteen ransom notes sent to the Lindberghs during their ordeal.
Speaker 1: To send those ransom notes, the kidnapper would have had
Speaker 1: to lick the stamps and seal the envelopes. That's where
Speaker 1: the DNA evidence likely resides. Evidently people didn't use sponges
Speaker 1: to seal envelopes back then. Maybe they didn't need to.
Speaker 3: I've never used a sponge to seal an envelope in
Speaker 3: my life. I've always licked them. You don't lick it,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: I only did because I had to seal lots of
Speaker 1: them working in a mail room as a college student.
Speaker 1: But but in general from home, if you have an envelope,
Speaker 1: you lick it, I know, But I do put spit
Speaker 1: on my finger. Really now, I'm not gonna lick it
Speaker 1: and get a tongue full of gloses. What am I
Speaker 1: an animal? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've done every every envelope I've ever used in my life,
Speaker 3: I've done it like that.
Speaker 1: I just link it. I know, I'm just kidding, but no, no,
Speaker 1: I did. I realized how bad they taste. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have licked my envelopes. To me, I can apply saliva
Speaker 1: to this envelope without getting a mouthful of glue by
Speaker 1: doing this, it is a horrible flavor. How do you
Speaker 1: do it? Katie?
Speaker 3: I used to lick them until I actually got a
Speaker 3: paper cut on my tongue.
Speaker 1: That was the day that stopped. That's horrible. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: slice your tongue open. So I'm fine. All over the envelope.
Speaker 1: It was really it was great. No, everybody in America
Speaker 1: is cringing, No, you're done? Okay, good? Why is New
Speaker 1: Jersey so adamantly opposed to the DNA testing? And nobody's
Speaker 1: really sure. Some officials say they're worried about setting a precedent.
Speaker 1: If any case can be reopened at the whim of
Speaker 1: the public, then they all can. But some conspiracy theorists
Speaker 1: think the state it has something to hide. Yeah, a slapdash,
Speaker 1: crappy investigation that puts somebody to death without justification.
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Speaker 3: Our three will get to some of the Trump interview
Speaker 3: from ABC Primetime last night that included I thought a
Speaker 3: very entertaining exchange about Pete Heggs at the Secretary of Defense,
Speaker 3: among other things.
Speaker 1: Stay with Us Armstrong.
Speaker 8: Actor Terrence Howard says he turned down the role of
Speaker 8: singer Marvin Gay because he couldn't kiss a man, the
Speaker 8: same reason he won't play Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: What is that? What the heck? What is that?
Speaker 3: So? Greg gut fechell, Obama's a man and Brock's gay?
Speaker 3: Is that a regular theme of Greg Gutville.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he just fills in that blank,
Speaker 1: but I'm not quite sure, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: Okay, just came across his headline and that I saw
Speaker 3: stretching should be part of your bedtime routine and reminded me.
Speaker 3: The best thing I've practically done on the health front
Speaker 3: in many, many years is when I started stretching, like
Speaker 3: nine months ago, finally ditto, and it's amazing what that
Speaker 3: has done for me. It's just and I don't spend
Speaker 3: a lot of time on it. I kind of do
Speaker 3: it between sets at the gym and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But the total stretching might be I don't know, fifteen
Speaker 3: twenty minutes and like zero, it's eliminated. I didn't have
Speaker 3: much back pain anyway, but it's just eliminated. It is
Speaker 3: a thing completely and just quality of life, just the
Speaker 3: ability to like you know, get in and out of cars,
Speaker 3: up and downstairs, whatever I want to do.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I didn't start this earlier, even
Speaker 3: though everybody in the world had told me so, I
Speaker 3: hope I can keepin I say, yeah, I hope I
Speaker 3: can keep that up the rest of my life. This
Speaker 3: didn't get enough attention. Yesterday, Harvard University released two separate
Speaker 3: reports commissioned by themselves to find out that there's a
Speaker 3: lot of an anti Semitism and anti Muslim bias on campus.
Speaker 1: Two different reports.
Speaker 3: They're quite different kinds of reports, but focusing on the
Speaker 3: anti Semitism part of it. Anti Semitic bias, the report found,
Speaker 3: and again this was something Harvard did themselves, had severely
Speaker 3: escalated following Hamas's October seventh attack, though it noted that
Speaker 3: anti Jewish bigotry was a big issue before the wars start,
Speaker 3: and they found all kinds of examples of faculty being
Speaker 3: is saying, doing anti Jewish things, classes that were clearly
Speaker 3: designed to be anti Israel or anti.
Speaker 1: Jew entire departments.
Speaker 3: See, yeah, this is absolutely amazing from the university that
Speaker 3: regularly lectures us on bigotry, inequity and fairness and all
Speaker 3: kinds of BS. Well, that stuff's not BS, but it
Speaker 3: is if you're not living it. Same thing with the
Speaker 3: anti is Islamic stuff, although that was almost entirely asking
Speaker 3: students and students saying that they feel like they can't
Speaker 3: say what they want. So I don't know if that's
Speaker 3: exactly the same thing as the anti Semitism report.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that every time Harvard or Penn or
Speaker 1: any of these universities addresses anti Semitism, they also throw
Speaker 1: in and there's a Islamophobia too, right, right, even though
Speaker 1: it's really that's funny because we hadn't heard or seen
Speaker 1: a lot of complaints about that. There weren't Islamic students
Speaker 1: barred from doing anything, or in any Islamic students surrounded
Speaker 1: by angry, jeering spectators who spit on them or prevented
Speaker 1: them from going into the library. But thanks for pointing
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 3: Well right in the if the complaints from the Muslim
Speaker 3: students are I don't feel like I can say what
Speaker 3: I want when what a lot of you were saying
Speaker 3: is all Jews want to.
Speaker 1: Die to the Jews.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yeah, I'm sure that's quite the same thing.
Speaker 1: Well, and plus it's got kind of a dysfunctional arguing
Speaker 1: feel to it. Honey, you just shot the dog to death,
Speaker 1: Well you didn't do the dishes, you know. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: why don't we talk about the two separately?
Speaker 3: By the way, and I think you mentioned this the
Speaker 3: other day, Harvard has renamed the Office for Equity, Diversity
Speaker 3: and Inclusion because that has become, you know, a bad
Speaker 3: phrase for a lot of us. They just renamed it
Speaker 3: to the Belonging to the Community and Campus Life Office,
Speaker 3: in which they're probably going to do exactly the same stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. The idea that we were telling them
Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore and they would comply is hilarious.
Speaker 1: I am not a paranoid lunatic when I tell.
Speaker 3: You that this is a a strongly held, near religious
Speaker 3: belief by these people.
Speaker 1: Trust me when I tell you it's true. They will
Speaker 1: hide it.
Speaker 3: They will ou skate, they will lie, they will cheat,
Speaker 3: They will keep it going anyway they can. Somewhat contentious
Speaker 3: interview between Trump and an ABC reporter on Primetime last night.
Speaker 1: We'll have some highlights in hour three. Armstrong and Getty