1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and Getty 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Chipotle has announced that it plans to open a restaurant 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: in Mexico next year. Meanwhile, the Olive Garden in Italy 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: was just burned to the ground. Is sonata basta? 7 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: I haven't eaten at the OG in a long time. 8 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: I should take the kids see what they think of it. 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: George w. Bush was striding the halls of the White House. 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: I believe last time I was in an olive garden, 11 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: you're still good of that level. Food is like anything else. 12 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: And what's the name of that those kind of restaurants 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: Olive Garden, Red Robin, Applebee's, What's Fast Casual maybe something 14 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 3: like that. They're all about the same but the same price, 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: but same taste no matter what. 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: It is a shocking number of calories for a surprisingly 17 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: reasonable price, right right, yeah, yeah, coming up. The House 18 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: actually did something yesterday, Jack, which is odd or this 19 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: week anyway, as the House of Representatives Congress, the Article 20 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: one branch of the Constitution does nothing anymore. As I 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: pointed out, last, or they're like the Queen of England. 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: They have purely ceremonial duties. Anyway, more on that to 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: come a shocking number of calories, is right. I was 24 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: thinking about the salad at someplace like that the other day, 25 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Applebee's something like that. The salad was like twenty two 26 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: hundred calories. It's just insane. That's something, you know. It's 27 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: partly age, I think, in partly a self recognition and 28 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: on my part that I have no self control. But 29 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: I've gone from really pleased that a restaurant gives me 30 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: ridiculous portions because I'm getting my money's worth, to being 31 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: really pleased when they don't. 32 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't think I've ever enjoyed the giant portion. 33 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: It's like, why is this so big? I think every 34 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: time they said it in front of me, I've gotten 35 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: better at especially if it's just Henry and me, we 36 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: order something and cut it in half. First of all, 37 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: it costs half as much to eat, and secondly we 38 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: both get stuffed eating is half of. 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: What they sent us. I am a fan of the 40 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: First Amendment, as anybody who listens to this show knows, 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of doubtfit I would like to see 42 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: government restrictions on the serving size of French fries. Oh 43 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: my god, how many French fries are enough? Like Red Robin, 44 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: which I think has the best French fries around. I 45 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: love their French fries. They're good, aren't they, Michael, They're delicious. 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, those are good French fries. But they 47 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: have bottomless French fries. So the consonant you, what do 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: you want more? You want us to bring you another 49 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: bucket of French fries? 50 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Oh? The frea. Oh and I love him. I love 51 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: him so much. If you know I'm going to be 52 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: executed finally for all of my crimes, my last meal 53 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: might just be French fries. That's funny, Henry. 54 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: Henry and I had that penciple is a food. We 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: got into that last night walking home from the gym. 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: For some reason. Henry hit me with if if you're 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: going to be executed, what would be last meal? And 58 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: of course I had to go with the caveat of well, 59 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: I think I'd be so remorseful over the horrifying crime 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: that committed. He said, you were unjustly accused, You're wrongfully accused. 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a clever dodge by your boy. What a 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: fine lad he is. Anyway, did you settle on something? 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, some sort of fried chicken, gravy mashed potato 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: sort of thing for me. 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Wow, good call, very good call. Sorry about your unjust execution, 66 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: but excellent choice that meal. So you may recall we 67 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: talked about this. 68 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: I'll just put the complete failure of the justicism aside 69 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: and enjoy this meal. And indeed the most urious an 70 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: irrevocable sanction a government can lay upon a citizen administered unjustly. 71 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: On the other hand, that meal was finger licking. So 72 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: anyway way, you win some, you lose some. 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: You may recall us discussing the wayward wisconstant judge who 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: aided and embedded the escape of a felon, Yes, a felon, 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: I will explain in a moment or two. John Roberts 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: and Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, were discussing the case 77 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: on Fox News. And this is as good a play 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: by play as we've come across. So here it is. 79 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: So let me read a little bit from the criminal 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 4: complaint here, and Judge Dugan says, despite having been advised 81 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz. 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: Judge Dugan then escorted Flores Ruiz and his counsel out 83 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 4: of the courtroom through the jury door, which leads to 84 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: a non public area of the courthouse. 85 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: A foot chase ensued. 86 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: The agents pursued Flora's Ruiz for the entire link to 87 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: the courthouse, and ultimately apprehended him. According to this complaint, 88 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: Judge Jiggin was visibly angry that Ice was there to 89 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: arrest Flores Ruiz even tried to kick the deportation agents 90 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: out of the courthouse. 91 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and to set the stage for you and Sandra 92 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 5: that this was truly horrific. This guy was in court 93 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 5: being prosecuted by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery. 94 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 5: He had beat up two people, a guy. 95 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: And a girl. 96 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 5: Beat the guy, the hif guy thirty times, knocked him 97 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 5: to the ground, choked him, beat up a woman so 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 5: badly they both had to go to the hospital. And John, 99 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: you know, it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate. 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 5: They wanted to cooperate. They were sitting in the courtroom 101 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 5: with the state prosecutor. The judge learns that Ice was 102 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: outside to get the guy because he had been deported 103 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: in twenty thirteen, came back in our country, commits these crimes. 104 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 5: Charged with committing these crimes. Victims in court. Judge finds out. 105 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 5: She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers. 106 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 5: She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk 107 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 5: to the chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom. 108 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 5: Here canna believe this, takes the defendant, the defense attorney 109 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 5: back in her chambers, takes him out of private exit, 110 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 5: and tells him to leave while a state prosecutor and 111 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 5: victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom. 112 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: You know, we were talking last hour about how Trump 113 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: overreached on some of these kicking people out of the 114 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: country and you know, did more harm than good. The 115 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: Democrats are really overreaching, unsupporting this person. 116 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and several others. Yeah, yeah, I know what 117 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: we'll do. We'll stand up for illegal alien gang member felons. 118 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: That's the ticket back to power. How about the judge 119 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: visibly shaken? Yeah, because I showed up. You're nut. You 120 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: should not be a judge. You have bad judgment. Yeah, 121 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: she's an ideological extremist. No, doubt Interestingly, I was reading 122 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy in the National Review. He's a legal expert 123 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: who we've talked to many times, but he says prosecuting 124 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: her could be tougher than you think for various constitutional reasons. 125 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: She has a pretty good defense. But from a strictly 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: politics running a society, how crazy are these people angle? 127 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: She is way overboard. 128 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: Here is a guy who is not only a gang member, 129 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: a woman beater, beat up BA Jesus out of a 130 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: fella over a stupid domestic concern. 131 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: He is an illegal immigrant who has and I don't 132 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: have the legal code in front of me, and it's 133 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: odd this article admits it. But he had the immediate 134 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: deportation without a hearing ruling on him having snuck in, 135 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: committed crimes, gotten booted out, snuck in again. He had 136 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: the if you see this guy put his ass on. 137 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: A plane and get rid of him, you don't have 138 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: to ask a judge ruling. And this guy's back in 139 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: court for victimizing more people, and this judge is so outraged, 140 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: maybe for reasons of state jurisdiction versus the federal government, 141 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. I've been reading about it, but I've 142 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: filed a writ of circus Maximus Jack, and I don't 143 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: believe that defense is going to hold up. I'm still 144 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: waiting for the paperwork to come back. 145 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: But the idea that you would usher this guy out 146 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: practically a fire escape. Not just tell the marshals, no, 147 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: we don't cooperate with the federal authorities. You can't use 148 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: the state's you know, mechanisms to do federal stuff. That's 149 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: not the way the constitution works. 150 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: No, she personally ushered this guy out, like into the 151 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: parking lot so we could make a run for it. 152 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: Holy cow. 153 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: Trumped arrangement syndrome is an actual thing on both sides, actually, 154 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: but it's an actual thing. 155 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: It makes people crazy. Yeah yeah, and you know there's 156 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: a certain percentage of people who suffer from Trump I'm 157 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: in love syndrome. 158 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was applying the same term to both sides. 159 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: You're deranged, You're overlooking some obvious things either way, but 160 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: that's you're shaking. You're so upset that this guy's going 161 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: to get booted out. 162 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: Really yeah yeah, well, certainly this gal is going to 163 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: be booted out of the judge ship. There are a 164 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: couple of similar cases back in the day in various 165 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: very blue cities where judges did something similar. And again, 166 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: the proven the criminal charges is kind of fraught for 167 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: reasons I don't want to get into. It's a little complicated, 168 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: but they certainly ought not to be a judge. Absolutely 169 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: outrageous and idiotic. Yeah, that's probably enough Trump talk for now. 170 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: But the poll number. Can you imagine the poll numbers 171 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: if you're just a very simple and neutral description of 172 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: the facts of the case and then put it before Americans, 173 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: Oh please, it'd be ninety five to five. So that 174 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: five percent are probably trendy IRAGUA members. 175 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: So CNN's headline on one of the big stories of 176 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: the day, economic growth sharply declines. Is it sharply declined? 177 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: It's it's shrinking. Our GDP actually sharply shrunker point three percent. 178 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: I guess if we were cruising along at growth of whatever, 179 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: it was two and a half percent. That's a three 180 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: percent drop any good, almost three percent. 181 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: That's brutal. Ultra processed foods may be linked to early death. 182 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of your dietary choices, I'm telling you I don't 183 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: go for food crazes, not pro not con I don't 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: have a pantry full of keen. 185 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: I don't meant anything smaller than my fist, or anything 186 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: that a caveman wouldn't beaten, or all kinds of different 187 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 3: rules I have because I follow every diet. 188 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't really, but I'm telling you the the evidence 189 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: is really starting to pile up about ultra processed foods. 190 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: Stay with us. 191 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: It's not hard to believe that if it's in a 192 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: sealed plastic sack and it could stay perfectly okay for 193 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: like nine years in that sack, it's not good for you. 194 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: It's not hard to worry. I pointed out the other day. 195 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: The health of this animal has changed completely, its body shape, 196 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: its function, everything. Well, it's eating something completely different than 197 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: it's eaten for its entire history on Earth. 198 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: No, that's not it, all right, Joe's become RFK Junior. Okay, 199 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: we got more on the ways. 200 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Stay here. Every time we. 201 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 6: Hear a Hispanic name on TV, whether or not the 202 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 6: anchor is Hispanic, we suddenly have to shape shift into 203 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 6: a perfect Hispanic accent. 204 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: Police arrested twenty five year old elan Alain Sanchez. 205 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 6: And I mean that, honestly. Why do we do that? 206 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 6: When I say Alejandra Myorcis. I just say Alejandra Myorcis, 207 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 6: but on CNN it's Alejandra Majorkis. 208 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: I'm Irish. 209 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 6: When police arrests someone with an Irish name, I don't 210 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 6: say police just arrested twenty five year old Charlie mcglothin. 211 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: Stop that stop fabulous. That's pretty funny. I love that. 212 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really stands out on NPR, does it over 213 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: the top? Everything was Wow, that's such a well do 214 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: it with Asian names? Come on now? 215 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: Wow? Right, Oh this is gonna be my let me 216 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: count one hundred and thirty third jihad this topic. Wow, 217 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm really gonna have to use AI to schedule it? 218 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Rantings and ravings? What did I come across with AI yesterday? 219 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: Something AI that was just phenomenal around video stuff Again, 220 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: that's where AI is clearly making a mark. I don't 221 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: know if it's going to take over the world in 222 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: a lot of the other ways that they've been claiming, 223 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: but man, the stuff it can do with video with 224 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 3: just you know, a couple of prompts is. 225 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: Stunning, mind blowing. My favorite amusing interesting piece of journalism 226 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: about AI next hour. There are various apps jack that 227 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: record everything you say for your own good what they 228 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: do with that information will jacque. Actually, it's it's thought. 229 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: Provoking records everything on my that my phone can hear. H. 230 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: Well, it's a device you wear, but yeah, it works 231 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: through your phone. It works through your phone. Yeah essentially. Yeah. Wow, 232 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: So this is getting some mockery. Oh it was good. 233 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: There's an article in the New York Times, a hot 234 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: accessory at the intersection of faith and culture, seen on influencers, 235 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 3: pop stars and White House staff. Cross necklaces are popping 236 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: up everywhere, and it's getting mockery from the parts of 237 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: the country where people been wearing cross necklaces forever. Like 238 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: I think every girl I've ever dated in my life 239 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: life or across necklace. 240 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: At some point. 241 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: So the idea that The New York Times is acting 242 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: like this is some interesting intersection of faith and culture 243 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: that has occurred is just an example of how out 244 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: of touch they are with the giant chunk of America that, 245 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: for instance, has voted for Trump twice. New York is 246 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: a fascinating place in so many ways. I am pro 247 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: New York, but New Yorker's self regard has annoyed me since. 248 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: I was eleven years old, No kidding. The rest of 249 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: us are quite happy and fascinated by life and have 250 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: many opportunities for art, culture, the outdoors, et cetera. Whatever 251 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: we prefer, we're fine. We're not lesser being well. Right. 252 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: The thing that annoys me about New York and to 253 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: a certain extent, LA and lots of big cities really, 254 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: but in particular New York and LA is the people 255 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: who live there, their assumption that we all want to 256 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: be there. We just haven't figured out how to get 257 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: there yet trying, we just haven't been successful enough to 258 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: live there. And you know, they're and that's fine. I 259 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: love New York and Los Angeles. But everybody doesn't want 260 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: to live there. There are some people, I know, that's funny. 261 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: I was listening to Jonah Goldberg the other day on 262 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: a podcast, and he grew up on the Upper West Side, 263 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: you know, right next to Central Park. That's the way 264 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: he grew up. And he was saying some things that 265 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: I and he was just so wrong about. I wish 266 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: I could have had a conversation, like a loving conversation 267 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: with him, saying, dude, you just and I don't blame 268 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: you for not knowing you grew up with a completely 269 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: different lifestyle than I did. But I know plenty of 270 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: people who might kill themselves if they had to live 271 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: in New York. They would contemplate suicide if they had 272 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: to live in New. 273 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: York, right, right, I'll never forget. And it's universal. I mean, 274 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: we've talked about this, having moved around the country, Fairmount. 275 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: You live in Kansas, they talk about how stupid Missourians are, 276 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: sure whatever, and you're in France they say Belgians are 277 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: more just everybody likes to you know, it's a human foible, 278 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: But I'll never forget. I was having a conversation with 279 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: a friend in the San Francisco Bay Area years ago, 280 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: and at the conclusion of a long conversation about his 281 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: brutal commute and his awful taxes and is incomprehensible mortgage 282 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: payments and the rest of it, a town outside the 283 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Bay area came up, and he was like, oh, poor bastards, right, 284 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: if only they could live in the Bay Area. I'm like, wow, okay, 285 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: never mind, anyway. 286 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: One thing about moving my whole life, and then as 287 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: an adult also is realizing that everybody loves where they're from, 288 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: and I wish just more people would understand you like 289 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: where you're from. 290 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: That's perfectly fine. You don't need to hate on other places. 291 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: You like where you're from because it's what you're familiar with, 292 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: your people, your friends, your stuff. 293 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: That's perfectly all right. 294 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: But you don't have to pretend that you have to 295 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: hate all the other places. But everybody does. 296 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: It's human nature, apparently, especially because we're all Americans. Except 297 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: for legal immigrants, you're not get out except for twenty 298 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: million illegal immigrants. I know what you're thinking. Did they 299 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: correctly solve the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby. Maybe you 300 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: weren't thinking that that case might get blown wide open. 301 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: State A lot of good stuff to come, I know. 302 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. 303 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 7: The child at the museum scratching a fifty six million 304 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 7: dollar painting in Rotterdam. Museum workers having to remove the 305 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 7: famous painting by artist Mark Rothko. They say it was 306 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 7: scratched in several places. The museum believes it can be restored. 307 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 7: No word on whether the family will he be held 308 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 7: responsible in any sort of way. 309 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: How about if you're looking at a fifty six million 310 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: dollar painting, you don't let your kid go up and 311 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: have so much time alone with the painting that they 312 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: scratch it multiple times with their little fingers. 313 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. I looked at this painting, though, 314 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: and I like art. I'd buy art, not like expensive art, 315 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: but and I like abstract art. I can't, for the 316 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: life of me, understand how this painting could be worth 317 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars. It reminds me of some 318 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: of the what are the forkingness sakes, the electronic WHATSITs 319 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: that people bought for like a week and a half NFTs. Yeah, 320 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: reminds me of NFTs. The value of that painting is 321 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: that other people think it has value. There's nothing intrinsically 322 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: great about it. It's okay, I guess in general, I 323 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: said this after I got back from Washington, d C. 324 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: And going to a bunch of museums. 325 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: There's a lot of people take to their kids to 326 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: museums and places like that. The kids have zero interest 327 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: in being there zero. I guess you feel like you're 328 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 3: exposing them to culture or something, but they're paying no 329 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 3: attention and they have no interest. 330 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: So plenty of politics to talk about. I think a 331 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: lot of us are a little burned out after the 332 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: frenzy of Trump's first one hundred days blah blah blah, 333 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: never ending yelling at each other, so, at least for 334 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: one segment, some decidedly non political stuff. The evidence is 335 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: mounting both US researchers and European researchers saying that people 336 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: who eat lots of ultra processed foods may be at 337 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: greater risk of dyeing. A study in eight countries, including 338 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: the UK and the US, suggest. 339 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: Greater risk of dying. That's right up there on your 340 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: health concerns. Among things I'd like to avoid. Yeah, processed meats. 341 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: My wife and I talked about this. 342 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: She is like, by even American standards, a bacon enthusiast. Boy, 343 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: I am doing yeah, yeah, probably for it. 344 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: I probably have bacon half a day's Oh wow, it's 345 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: not good for you. 346 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Why is it not good for you? It's processed, processed. 347 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 1: What does that mean? It's the salt and smoke and 348 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: all sorts of I don't remember what. Am I a chemist? 349 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: But yes, I consider it a process meat. 350 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: I get why I shouldn't eat cheese, its or all 351 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: kinds of things in plastic sacks, but bacon really? 352 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: So anyway? Processed meats, look it up, cookies, fizzy during 353 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: soft drinks, ice cream. Some breakfast cereals. Upfs, ultra processed 354 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: foods tend to contain more than five ingredients which are 355 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: not usually found in home cooking, such as additive sweeteners 356 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: and chemicals to improve the food's texture or appearance. 357 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: That's interesting some cereals, because like I eat grape nuts 358 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: and I think there's or cheerios. There's like two ingredients 359 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: on cheerios oats and I think that's it. Same with 360 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: grape nuts. So is that it's in a plastic sack. 361 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 3: There's something going on. 362 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: You know. The rule of thumb I always see cited 363 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: is look for ingredients you don't know what they are 364 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: or you don't have in your kitchen. That's that's a 365 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: pretty good standard. Now it's worth pointing out. Some experts 366 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: say it's not really clear why upfs are linked to 367 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: poor health. There's little evidence it's down to the processing itself. 368 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: Could be because the these foods contain high levels of fat, salt, 369 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: and sugar and are associated with poorer lifestyle choice. That's 370 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: what I was going to say. Whatever you call that. 371 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: Could it be people that eat the simplest to eat foods, 372 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: have all kinds of other things. 373 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: They most likely do. 374 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: You're more likely to not exercise, to smoke, to drink more, 375 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: to all kinds of things. 376 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: It's certainly possible. 377 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: It's not surprising that people like me, who you know, 378 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: go for the easy food in a plastic sack, have. 379 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: A bunch of other non healthy things going on. Yeah, 380 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: if you have a well designed study, you tease out 381 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: all of those other factors. But it's extremely difficult to do. 382 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: And you're talking about lifestyle, general lifestyle, overall, diet, exercise, 383 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: of health, wealth, you know all those habits. Anyway, but 384 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: they looked at people's diets and data on deaths from Australia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Columbia, 385 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: mech the UK, and the US. That's a pretty broad 386 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: swath or mortal enemy. Oh no, no, oh boy, don't 387 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: get me started anyway. Uh moving along, I thought this 388 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: was interesting. Speaking of diet, scientists have created three D 389 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: printed calamari with more protein than real squid. 390 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: So many questions, Wow, no kidding, three D printed calamari, Yes, 391 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: and using mung bean protein and what and microalgae? But 392 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: in what sense is it calamari couldn't you call it 393 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: whatever you want? This is birthday cake, this is calamari, 394 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: this is steak, it's none of those things. 395 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: Well I was going to say, well, yeah, it was, 396 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: surely it would have the taste and texture of calamari. 397 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: But then it says the uh blah blah blah, producing 398 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: calamari mimics that were softer, spring here and structurally similar 399 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: to real calamari without relying on fished marine resources. 400 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: Three D printed calamari, I just I just don't see 401 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: myself eating that. 402 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this innovation highlights a promising future for sustainable 403 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: seafood alternatives, leveraging under used crops like mung beans and 404 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: algae to reduce pressure on ocean ecosystems. 405 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: Do they all have to be in favor of that? 406 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: Do they all have to be appetizers? Can you fax 407 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 3: me some onion rings? 408 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, but they've successfully three D printed plant 409 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: based calamari rings that closely mimic both the texture and 410 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: protein content of real squid. How the damn stuff taste? 411 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 3: I think they since we were tiny kids, and probably 412 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: before that, they've been working all these things that people 413 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: are never going to need or do I feel like 414 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: they're prepared before when when first there's not going to 415 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: be any food, So you know, we got to eat 416 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: stuff out of a tube that kind of looks like 417 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: steak and you spread it on your your fake bread 418 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: or something. 419 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: But why why they're always doing this is there? 420 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: I believe that we're gonna have a real serious food 421 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: shortage worldwide at some point. Well over fishery of the 422 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: oceans is Overfishing is a thing, as the kids say, 423 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: it's a concern. But with the population probably having peaked 424 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: in decline it now, I don't know. 425 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. A completely different topic. I mentioned this 426 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: earlier one to pay it Off. Eighty nine years ago 427 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: this month, a man named Bruno Richard Hoptman was executed 428 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: by the state of New Jersey for what the press 429 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: was calling the crime of the century. 430 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: He's stood accused of kidnapping and murdering Charles Lindbergh Junior, 431 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: the twenty month old son of the most admired man 432 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: in America, of the famous Charles Lindberg. Just a trans 433 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: atlantic flight, blah blah blah, Just a horrible story. Like 434 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: the biggest celebrity in America was Charles Lindberg. So pick 435 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: whoever the biggest celebrity is now maybe Elon. Somebody sneaks 436 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: in the house and takes a twenty month old and 437 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 3: kills them. 438 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, brutal. Yeah. So I'd always been dimly aware of 439 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: the controversy surrounding this case, but it just hasn't been 440 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: one of those things I've bothered to look into in 441 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: my life. But the more I look into it, the 442 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: more intriguing slash troubling it is. Quoting from Jonas Eara 443 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: and Poppy Damon in the Free Press, there have been long, 444 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: long been questions about whether Hopmann was in fact the 445 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: kidnapped or kidnapper, questions that could be easily answered with 446 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: DNA testing, which the state of New Jersey has long resisted, 447 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: and some researchers have filed suit to compel the state 448 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: to allow forensic scientists to do the testing. And it's 449 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: thought pretty strongly that if they do the testing, this 450 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: guy's guilt or innocence will be established. They mentioned that 451 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: kidnapping children of the rich for ransom money was fairly 452 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: common during the depression. Wow, but Little Lindy's kidnapping, as 453 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: they called him, was a media sensation for reasons obviously, 454 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: it was discovered ten weeks later the baby had died. 455 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, Americans were so eager to see 456 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: Hoppman fried that there were actually execution parties at local 457 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: hotel ballrooms on the night he was put to death 458 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: in Trenton. The lights dimmed as the deed was carried 459 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: out because electric chairs required so much electricity in the thirties. 460 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: But there's always been a great deal of doubt about 461 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: Hoppman's guilt, starting with the governor at the time, Harold Hoffmann. 462 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: Haupman was a German immigrant, and in the thirties, anti 463 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: German sentiment was running high. To be like now, yeah, yeah, 464 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: although our justice system is a lot more regimented and 465 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: transparent now, but public opinion wise, yes, yes, agreed, yeah. 466 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: Or an Iranian maybe well or not really it were 467 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: with Iran anyway, Well, we weren't at war with Germany 468 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: at the time. So the investigation was a slap dash 469 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: affair full of leads that were ignored in an astonishing breach, 470 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: the New Jersey State Police, who were in charge, let 471 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: Lindberg himself call the shots. What's more, Housman Hopman's trial 472 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: was a travesty, with prosecutors pushing the evidence beyond all 473 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: bounds where he tried. By today's standards, it is a 474 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: near certainty that Hoppman would be found not guilty. Really. Yeah, 475 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: and that's a couple of pretty responsible journalists because they 476 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: believe he didn't do it, or they just think there's 477 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: there there wouldn't be. 478 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: There's not enough to find him guilty and convictim. Yeah, 479 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: the evidence was very, very thin. But it's been a 480 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: long time. I mean, if there had been in somebody 481 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: else who was responsible. 482 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: Oughn't that would have come out by now. 483 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: Somebody would have admitted to it, or a friend would 484 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: have admitted to it. Yeah, I was my old friend Bill, 485 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: he did it or something. 486 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. There have probably have been all sorts of false 487 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: confessions that sort. Maybe a true one, I don't know. 488 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: But final note on this Today, all the Lindbergh evidence 489 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: resides at the New Jersey State Police Museum. The journalists 490 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: say we've visited and seen for ourselves. The latter allegedly 491 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: used to access the child's bedroom window and handwriting samples 492 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: in a public display, but one can find in an 493 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: archive archive that is not accessible to the public. The 494 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: fifteen ransom notes sent to the Lindberghs during their ordeal. 495 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: To send those ransom notes, the kidnapper would have had 496 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: to lick the stamps and seal the envelopes. That's where 497 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: the DNA evidence likely resides. Evidently people didn't use sponges 498 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: to seal envelopes back then. Maybe they didn't need to. 499 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: I've never used a sponge to seal an envelope in 500 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: my life. I've always licked them. You don't lick it, 501 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: you know. 502 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: I only did because I had to seal lots of 503 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: them working in a mail room as a college student. 504 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: But but in general from home, if you have an envelope, 505 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: you lick it, I know, But I do put spit 506 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: on my finger. Really now, I'm not gonna lick it 507 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: and get a tongue full of gloses. What am I 508 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: an animal? I don't know. 509 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: I've done every every envelope I've ever used in my life, 510 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: I've done it like that. 511 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: I just link it. I know, I'm just kidding, but no, no, 512 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: I did. I realized how bad they taste. Yeah, I 513 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: have licked my envelopes. To me, I can apply saliva 514 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: to this envelope without getting a mouthful of glue by 515 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: doing this, it is a horrible flavor. How do you 516 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: do it? Katie? 517 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: I used to lick them until I actually got a 518 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: paper cut on my tongue. 519 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: That was the day that stopped. That's horrible. Oh my god, 520 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: slice your tongue open. So I'm fine. All over the envelope. 521 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: It was really it was great. 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There's no safe like simply Safe. 548 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: Our three will get to some of the Trump interview 549 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: from ABC Primetime last night that included I thought a 550 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: very entertaining exchange about Pete Heggs at the Secretary of Defense, 551 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: among other things. 552 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: Stay with Us Armstrong. 553 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 8: Actor Terrence Howard says he turned down the role of 554 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 8: singer Marvin Gay because he couldn't kiss a man, the 555 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 8: same reason he won't play Barack Obama. 556 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: What is that? What the heck? What is that? 557 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: So? Greg gut fechell, Obama's a man and Brock's gay? 558 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: Is that a regular theme of Greg Gutville. 559 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if he just fills in that blank, 560 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: but I'm not quite sure, to be honest with you. 561 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: Okay, just came across his headline and that I saw 562 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: stretching should be part of your bedtime routine and reminded me. 563 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: The best thing I've practically done on the health front 564 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: in many, many years is when I started stretching, like 565 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: nine months ago, finally ditto, and it's amazing what that 566 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: has done for me. It's just and I don't spend 567 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: a lot of time on it. I kind of do 568 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 3: it between sets at the gym and stuff like that. 569 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: But the total stretching might be I don't know, fifteen 570 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: twenty minutes and like zero, it's eliminated. I didn't have 571 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: much back pain anyway, but it's just eliminated. It is 572 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: a thing completely and just quality of life, just the 573 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: ability to like you know, get in and out of cars, 574 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: up and downstairs, whatever I want to do. 575 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 576 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 3: I don't know why I didn't start this earlier, even 577 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: though everybody in the world had told me so, I 578 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: hope I can keepin I say, yeah, I hope I 579 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: can keep that up the rest of my life. This 580 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: didn't get enough attention. Yesterday, Harvard University released two separate 581 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: reports commissioned by themselves to find out that there's a 582 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: lot of an anti Semitism and anti Muslim bias on campus. 583 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: Two different reports. 584 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: They're quite different kinds of reports, but focusing on the 585 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: anti Semitism part of it. Anti Semitic bias, the report found, 586 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: and again this was something Harvard did themselves, had severely 587 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: escalated following Hamas's October seventh attack, though it noted that 588 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: anti Jewish bigotry was a big issue before the wars start, 589 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: and they found all kinds of examples of faculty being 590 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: is saying, doing anti Jewish things, classes that were clearly 591 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: designed to be anti Israel or anti. 592 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: Jew entire departments. 593 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: See, yeah, this is absolutely amazing from the university that 594 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: regularly lectures us on bigotry, inequity and fairness and all 595 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: kinds of BS. Well, that stuff's not BS, but it 596 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: is if you're not living it. Same thing with the 597 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: anti is Islamic stuff, although that was almost entirely asking 598 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: students and students saying that they feel like they can't 599 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 3: say what they want. So I don't know if that's 600 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: exactly the same thing as the anti Semitism report. 601 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: And it's interesting that every time Harvard or Penn or 602 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: any of these universities addresses anti Semitism, they also throw 603 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: in and there's a Islamophobia too, right, right, even though 604 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: it's really that's funny because we hadn't heard or seen 605 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: a lot of complaints about that. There weren't Islamic students 606 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: barred from doing anything, or in any Islamic students surrounded 607 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: by angry, jeering spectators who spit on them or prevented 608 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: them from going into the library. But thanks for pointing 609 00:34:59,680 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: it out. 610 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: Well right in the if the complaints from the Muslim 611 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: students are I don't feel like I can say what 612 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 3: I want when what a lot of you were saying 613 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 3: is all Jews want to. 614 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: Die to the Jews. 615 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yeah, I'm sure that's quite the same thing. 616 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: Well, and plus it's got kind of a dysfunctional arguing 617 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: feel to it. Honey, you just shot the dog to death, 618 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: Well you didn't do the dishes, you know. Yeah, okay, 619 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: why don't we talk about the two separately? 620 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 3: By the way, and I think you mentioned this the 621 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: other day, Harvard has renamed the Office for Equity, Diversity 622 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 3: and Inclusion because that has become, you know, a bad 623 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 3: phrase for a lot of us. They just renamed it 624 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 3: to the Belonging to the Community and Campus Life Office, 625 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: in which they're probably going to do exactly the same stuff. 626 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. The idea that we were telling them 627 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore and they would comply is hilarious. 628 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: I am not a paranoid lunatic when I tell. 629 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: You that this is a a strongly held, near religious 630 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 3: belief by these people. 631 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Trust me when I tell you it's true. They will 632 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: hide it. 633 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 3: They will ou skate, they will lie, they will cheat, 634 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 3: They will keep it going anyway they can. Somewhat contentious 635 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: interview between Trump and an ABC reporter on Primetime last night. 636 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: We'll have some highlights in hour three. Armstrong and Getty