1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk. 2 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: Hi. 3 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: are going to be talking about an actress who had 5 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: a medical condition that lots of people have, particularly women 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: who suffer with it is not very serious, but it 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: could be described as torture. A man who was killed 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: and put lives at risk trying to save an animal, 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: the dangers of keeping a big cat as a pet, 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: suntan addiction, and hay fever of the vagina. All right, 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: let's get started with this actress. 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: Like, you're not saying this is serious, but this is 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: a personal form of hell, I would think. 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: So I'm saying it's not serious in in the sense 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: of like you're not going to die from it, but 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: I will. Yes, I've had this and it's hell. 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: All right, a pinnet point because I want to get 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: back to that, Okay. Vicky Lawrence, who was an actress 19 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: known for her role in The Carol Burnett Show. She 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: woke up one morning in August of twenty twelve with 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: itchy hands, and you know, it was unusual, but she 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: didn't think too much of it. She even made a 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: joke to her husband that they should buy lottery tickets 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: because she thought they were going to be coming into 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: some serious money because of you know that myth that 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: if your hands age. So over time the hives got 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: worse and within the next couple of days they were 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: covering her entire body. All right, you know who this woman? 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: This is actually really bizarre because me and Gabe on 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 1: our road trip we were talking about eighties like shows 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: that we used to watch in the eighties, and one 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: of them, I was like, do you remember that show 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: called Mama and It, And that's who she is. She's 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: the Mama Lady. She played like a really old grandma 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: lady that was crotchety but hilarious, and I guess it 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: was like a spin off of a Carabournett. This is 37 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: like no one that was born before, Like you, you 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: probably have no idea what it is, but like I know, 39 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: some people listening know what I'm talking about, So that's 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: who we're talking about. Also side note, she's seventy six 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: years old and she looks awesome. 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't even realize she was that old. Yeah, 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: she does look amazing. Was Rue McClanahan in that show, though, 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: she was. 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: She was in it. I don't know if she was 46 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: in it all the time, but she definitely was. She 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: was in it for sure. 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: Okay, because I feel like I was. I feel like 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: I was watching CNN has this show called like History 50 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: of the Sitcom or something, and I feel like it 51 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: was on there and I saw Rue McClanahan. I was like, 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: I don't know that show. I really don't know anything 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: Rue McLanahan was in besides Golden Girl. 54 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: No. It was. It was really funny and I used 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: to watch it as a kid. So it just was 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: weird that that I was talking about this particular show 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago and now we're talking about 58 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: this lady again. But anyway, you guys should check that 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: out if. 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: You have that thing that I have dreams about. 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly dies. So she has a condition called chronic 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: spontaneous urticaria, and that is just a fancy word for 63 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: saying that she has hives, and they don't know what 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: calls it, and it they're not going away initially. So 65 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: the reason that I say that this is torture is 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: because when whenever you've had hives, they itch so bad, 67 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: and if you can't take medication to make it go away. 68 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: Having a chronic itch like that that is also that 69 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: gross like swelling itch. It's really it's torture that you 70 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: cannot you cannot alleviate the itch, and it is enough 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: to drive someone crazy. 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So this was reminding me of that story we 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: had I guess a couple of months ago about that 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: woman who is pregnant and ended up taking her life. 75 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: And you know, I understand you're saying it's not a 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: serious condition in the sense of like it's like cancer 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: and they'll die from it. But when you're getting tortured 78 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: with something that badly, I could see how it could 79 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: take a mental toll on you and force you to 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: take drastic measures because of how tortuous it is. 81 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So usually if a person gets hives, the first 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: thing they're going to think is that you're having an 83 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: allergic reaction to somebody. And everyone's had that, whether it 84 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: be like detergent or something like that, but oftentimes in 85 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: some people's cases, they don't know exactly what causes it. 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: And this condition affects as many as two point six 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: million people a year, particularly women. Seventy percent of cases 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: are women. So it's something that a lot of people 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: are dealing with, and they don't really know why it happens. 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: They think it's just because for some reason, your body's 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: immune system is an overdrive and it's attacking your healthy tissue, 92 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: like it's feeling that something's the threat, and it's attacking 93 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: it and causing what would look like an allergic reaction 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: even though you're not having one now. Sometimes people have 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: it triggered, so the condition is considered to be over 96 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: over six months or over six weeks of time, but 97 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: sometimes it has known triggers. For example, drinking alcohol could trigger, 98 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: and some people cold heat, all these different things, these 99 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: factors that could if you've heard of people like exercising 100 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: and getting it. So when I was a kid, I 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: used to start. I started getting it when I was 102 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: at the bus stop in third grade and I would 103 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: get it and then it would go away. But it 104 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: was like very extremely itchy when I got it. And 105 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: then they figured out that every single time I was 106 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: having cold exposure for some reason, I was getting it. 107 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: So I would get it at the bus stop in 108 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: the mornings. And it started like around fall time when 109 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: it was like that change. Even if it was like 110 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: fifty degrees out. It was just like that weird change 111 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: would do it, and then I would get it obviously 112 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: in the winter, and it happened for a couple of 113 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: years and there was like nothing. The only medication they 114 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: gave me for it was something called hydroxyzine or I 115 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: think it's something like that, but it's it's like it 116 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: made me fall asleep. It was fricking terrible, but that 117 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: was the only thing that would like chill it out 118 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. And then eventually I just grew out 119 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: of it and I and I stopped getting it like that. 120 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I would look like I had spots all 121 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: over my face. It was really obvious. And sometimes now 122 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: if I have cold exposure and stuff, I definitely have 123 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: like the weird rainods thing happening, and but I rarely 124 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: get spots like that that I used to. There's other 125 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: people that get triggered by having going from a cold 126 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: environment to the heat, so it's like an opposite thing. 127 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: Sometimes sweating causes it, and then just like an emotionally 128 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: stressful time in someone's life could also cause it. So 129 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: it Fortunately for her, they gave her some medications over 130 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: a period of time and eventually it went away. But 131 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: the initial time that she had the reaction, they gave 132 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: her steroids and they gave her benajol and stuff, and 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: like nothing made it go away. And I just would 134 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: say that that's similar when I had the polymorphic light 135 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: eruption that one time when I was exposed to the 136 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: sunlight and I got that itching all over my body, 137 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: and like I got oral steroids, steroid cream, like nothing 138 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: made it go away, and it was so miserable. Like 139 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: I can't tell you that I would rather be in 140 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: physical pain than have to deal with that again. It 141 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: just was the most terrible thing ever. 142 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: No, I understand, and I've had nothing even kind of 143 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: close to that. But even when I have a lot 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: of bug bites at one time that won't go away, 145 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: it's tortuous. I don't know how. You know, people go 146 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: on naked and afraid, for example, and they get bug 147 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: bites all over their body. 148 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: Like I'd be out immediately. 149 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: I couldn't deal with something like that. 150 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. It really is terrible. So it's 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: cool that she was talking about it though. All Right, 152 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: So this happened pretty close to where we were on 153 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: our trip on Interstate ninety five, which is the main 154 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: route that we take all the way from New Jersey 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: down to Florida. 156 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: So, yeah, a seventy seven year old man was trying 157 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: to save a turtle in the middle of the highway 158 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: and ended up getting hit by a car and died. 159 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: So the car that hit him did see him and 160 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: tried to slow down, but the person behind her did 161 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: not see her slowing down, rammed into the back of 162 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: her car, which rammed her into the guy. 163 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: This is, like, I just the only thing I could 164 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: think is that this guy is in his late seventies 165 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: and having some kind of dementia. There's no person in 166 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: their right mind that would ever get out of the 167 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: car on ninety five and try to help a turtle. 168 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously this is like something a really 169 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: good person would try to do, but to risk your 170 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: own life. I mean, ninety five is one of the 171 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: busiest roads in the entire country. Yeah, and it was 172 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: the middle of the afternoon, I mean busiest time. 173 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like four point thirty at night, like 174 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: a rush hour time. It's just the dumbest thing ever. 175 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he got killed, but then it's like, 176 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: now you have a person who killed the person, which 177 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: even though it isn't their fault, like you still have 178 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: that weighing on your mind. That person, I mean, that 179 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: person hit the guy and then hit the side of 180 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: the of the road or the fence on the side 181 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: or the barrier, so that person might have severe injuries 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: that might be lifelong. The other person that hit them 183 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: might have severe injuries. Not to mention the fact that 184 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: it closed down ninety five for hours on one way, 185 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: like it the whole entire thing is just like I 186 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: I actually can't even believe that that happened, because when 187 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: you're driving on ninety five and you're going like sixty 188 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: or seventy miles an hour, how do you even see 189 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: a turtle and slow down and pull over enough to 190 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: get it? Like it's the whole entire thing is just 191 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: so bizarre to me. It is, And they never say 192 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: did the turtle survive? 193 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. The turtle did not survive Jesus, So 194 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: the turtle died, the guy dies. I'm thinking, like exactly 195 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: like you're saying, you're going so fast, so I assume 196 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: he sees it and pulls up and then walks back 197 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: along the side of the road, which is dangerous in 198 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: itself and then starts walking in the middle of the highway. 199 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just not smart to do something like 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: this at all. They even say, when you're driving, if 201 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 2: an animal runs in front of you, you should just 202 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: hit it. You should just hit it, Yeah, because you're 203 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: risking your life at that point. And it's like, I 204 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 2: know everybody wants to do the right thing, and I'll 205 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: try to kill the animal, but like, you're a human 206 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: in your life's pretty important, so like you can't risk 207 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: your life to save some. 208 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: Something like that. Oh my god. It's like, you know, 209 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: just being on a road trip for so many days, 210 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: it's like you just see all of these habits that 211 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: people do that you're just like just especially when you 212 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: when you have a tire that's that's off, and like 213 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: people are just in the side, like let's say it's 214 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: on the driver's side, and they're like in the frickin 215 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: lane changing the tire, and you're just like, dude, this 216 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: is how people get killed all the time. Actually, when 217 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: we were driving there, this is just a New Jersey, 218 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: Like we were seriously ten minutes into our trip, we 219 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: weren't even we didn't even cross the Delaware Bridge yet, 220 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: Like we were in New Jersey. Still right on the 221 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: side of the road was a big tractor trailer parked 222 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: like that had pulled over into the shoulder. Some person 223 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: was driving an suv that said school Busts on the 224 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: back of it. It was like not an suv like 225 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: a mini van and literally went underneath of the truck 226 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: like like Jane Mansfield style slammed into the back of 227 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: a truck that was in the shoulder. But like, why 228 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: was that person? It's because people are on their phones. 229 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: That's the problem, right, Yeah, the car, you're not on 230 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: your phone. 231 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: You're even like let's just say you even check it 232 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: at a light, you're so checked out by the time 233 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: you start going back and you're driving. 234 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: Or or if you it's just like it's not even 235 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: checking your phone like everybody's car, Like I always bitch 236 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: about this with my car, Like it's so fricking complicated 237 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: to turn the air conditioning on and and like fiddle 238 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: with the radio and everything, like your eyes are off 239 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: one second. So this person totally slams into the back 240 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: of this tractor trailer and we drive by when the 241 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: cops had just arrived and there's white sheets, which means 242 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: someone's dead. I looked it up. The person died, and 243 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, like, like, you gotta be really careful 244 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: because there's absolutely no reason that that car even came 245 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: out of one of the major lanes and hit that truck. 246 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: So it's like, even if you pull over and you're 247 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: trying to do the safest thing ever, that's still not 248 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: even going to guarantee that you're going to be safe. 249 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: But certainly you shouldn't be anywhere near the driving lane 250 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: your body like, no, oh my god. And I and 251 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: you see so many people doing it, and you're just like, 252 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: what the hell are people thinking? 253 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: Really, they're just not all right. So last week, a 254 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: lion escaped from a farmhouse and pack stand, and on 255 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: video it was caught leaping over a fence and mauling 256 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: a mother and her two children in front of the owner, 257 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: who just stood by and did nothing to help. 258 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So so, I mean, part of the reason that 259 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: we're telling about this case is because of the next 260 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: story that we're going to tell. But like it boils 261 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: down to somebody, it doesn't even matter what country you're 262 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: living in or whatever, Like people are illegally keeping this animal, 263 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: a lion, as a pet, right, Yeah, so this is 264 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: what happens when you keep animals like this as pets. Like, 265 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: bad shit happens, right, And it's not fair for regular 266 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: people to just keep walking around innocently with their children 267 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: and some animal that is usually in a zoo or 268 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: living in you know, the savannah of Africa, right, being 269 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: in a neighborhood. I mean, just you're walking in your 270 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: neighborhood and a lion just jumps over the wall like 271 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: what nobody's expecting that. 272 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: Well, nobody's expecting it. And then people, because they're not 273 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: prepared for these situations because they're not acclimated to these animals, 274 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: don't know how to deal with the situation. They are 275 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: very lucky in this case they got they were injured, 276 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: but nothing life threatening. But of course they start looking 277 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: into the guy that owns this and he illegally owns 278 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: the lion and shouldn't have been there in the first place. 279 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: So you just put these people in harms bay for 280 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: no reason, and then you stand off to the side. 281 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: You're the only person in this area equipped to deal 282 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: with this thing, allegedly, and you're not even gonna try 283 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: to get it off or anything. You're just gonna stand 284 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: by and watch it happen, well. 285 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: Because he doesn't want to get injured. 286 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: Right. Well, the shocking thing for this story was that 287 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: the lion was relocated to a wildlife park and not 288 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: murdered like they normally are in this situation. 289 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe in America would one hundred percent be like euthanized, 290 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Like yeah, we got him. 291 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: All right. 292 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: So this this brings us to the next story that 293 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: this might a similar situation of might have just happened 294 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: in America as well. 295 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: So a ring doorbell video went viral that appeared to 296 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: show this cougar roaming around the streets of Rochester, New York. 297 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: But I guess investigators are first looking into if it's 298 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: even true. But there is this incredible news footage of 299 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: this man talking about seeing it while he was walking 300 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: to a store. 301 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: It really is. It really is gold. It's up there 302 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: with like Antoine and hid your kids, Hid your wife? 303 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: That was like the old time best news clip. But 304 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: this guy was like yeah, it said raar, and he's 305 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: like he's like walking around carrying a baseball bag. Listen. 306 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't blame him, because like, if you're outside and 307 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: you see an animal like that, I never want to 308 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: see a big cat walking around my neighborhood. I'm sorry, Like, 309 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: I don't even want to see a dog that's not 310 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: on a leash because I'm scared it's going to attack me. Like, 311 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: I do not want to think about some weirdo that 312 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: decided to have this thing as a pet and now 313 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: it's in my neighborhood. 314 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course I need to see first of all, 315 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: where it even came from, because they said sometimes they 316 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: get calls like this and it's typically just a really 317 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: large bobcat. But in this case, it's definitely not a bobcat. 318 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: And this guy that was on the news is now 319 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: walking around with a baseball bet. But what I found 320 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: funny about the interview was he was basically saying that 321 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: it felt like he was in a movie and that 322 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: somebody was pranking him, so he just kept walking. 323 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: I guess he did the right thing. Well, so experts 324 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: have looked at the video and said that the cat 325 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: seems to be a mountain lion. It has a J 326 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: shaped tail that's a long tubular towel with a hook 327 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: on the end of it, and they were saying that 328 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: this animal is about one hundred and fifty pounds with 329 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: sharp claws, large teeth and could really hurt or kill 330 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: a person. And they said that animals aren't around those 331 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: parts in New York and that it's highly probable that 332 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: it's a pet that someone had that got too big 333 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: that they weren't able to take care of anymore. 334 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: It did. 335 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: Nobody watched Tiger King. 336 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we see how horrible that went. And Carol 337 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: Baskin and all those people actually remember the other guy 338 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: that was like the steampunky guy, the doc antle. He 339 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: just went to jail for what I think, I know, 340 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: something along the lines of illegally owning animals fraud. 341 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: I just don't I don't understand, Like I see all 342 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: of these videos of people. I feel like it's in 343 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: Russia or something that I've seen a bunch of these 344 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: people that just have wild cats like living in their house. 345 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: And I understand if you get one as a baby 346 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: and you it probably is possible obviously for them to 347 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: be a little bit more docile and be used to 348 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: being handled by humans and stuff. But why, I I 349 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: just don't understand, And how like you have to be 350 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: the most immoral person ever to just be like, you 351 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: know what this thing is gonna bite me and it's 352 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: ripped up my house and I'm just like gonna let 353 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: it out in the woods. And the thing's probably hungry 354 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: right all, Like there's pets around outside and stuff. People 355 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: like if it doesn't get food, eventually, it's going to 356 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: get food. And it would be a person. Yeah, And 357 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: you're like living in a city or like a suburb, 358 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: and you're just like, cool, I'm getting attacked by a 359 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: cougar right now. It's just outrageous. 360 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: So because the two scenarios are it either got out 361 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: of the house it was living in or like you're saying, 362 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 2: the person like just dropped it off and was like, oh, 363 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: it'll sort itself out and maybe go live in the woods. 364 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 2: But that's not how it works. It's not in its 365 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: native environment, so like it doesn't know what to do. 366 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I and and like as of this recording, that's it. 367 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: We don't know where it is. Nobody ever found it 368 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: and stuff. Another important Yeah, another important thing to note 369 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: is that they said that the zoo has all of 370 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: their big cats accounted for, So it's not from the zoo. 371 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: That's the only place they could think it would be from. 372 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's not from a legitimate zoo, but I guarantee 373 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: you it's from some shady zoo operation happening in somebody's backyard. 374 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: I would feel better about that rather than people that 375 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: are just like having it in their house. I mean, 376 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: at least they might know something about it. I don't know, 377 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: but yeah, Tiger King is a very good example. Also, 378 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: even Siegfried and Broy like they had totally trained those 379 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: animals and have been very comfortable with them, and it 380 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, like they're their carnivores and they're wild animals 381 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: and they don't understand that they could really hurt you. 382 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: This expert saying that this cat's one hundred and fifty pounds, 383 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Like my cat is not even ten pounds. Think about that. 384 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: And I got bit by my cat once and it 385 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: freaking hurt one hundred and fifty pounds. 386 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: Like why did she bite you? Oh? 387 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: It was when I got home from having my surgery 388 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: done years ago, and I was gone for a week, 389 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: and I think that really just stressed her out because 390 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm like the main person for her. And then I 391 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: came home and she was like sitting in my closet 392 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: all sad, and then I did the typical thing downstairs 393 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: of trying to feed her and stuff, and she wouldn't eat. 394 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: So then I went upstairs and I tried to like 395 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: get her to get up to bring her downstairs to eat, 396 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: and she bit my hand. That was like the only 397 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: time she ever did anything like that. She was just 398 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: so emo because I left her. 399 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: She does get so salty when you guys go away, 400 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: she really does. 401 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: It's funny. 402 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 2: Even when I went to feed her the other day, 403 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: she like stares at you like a stalker in the corner. 404 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: While you're like feeding her food. 405 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: You're putting the food in her bowl, and you're like, okay. 406 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: Well, when we went on the cruise, Rita said she 407 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: didn't come downstairs once the entire time. Every single time 408 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: she came in the house, She's like, the food's gone, 409 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: so I know she's here, but she won't she won't 410 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: even look at me. And then this time though, she said, 411 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: she stood at the top of the steps and was 412 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: just staring at her. 413 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: I look for her when I go there because I 414 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: just want to make sure she didn't run outside. Yeah, 415 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, I totally understand because she does 416 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: come down, but she's like real weird it's not the 417 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: normal way she behaves, which is so weird. This episode 418 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: is brought to you by the Grosser Room. 419 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: So as we told you guys, we're working on a 420 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: two part high profile death dissection on that crazy story 421 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: that is surrounded by the show called The Mortician, which 422 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: is about the lamb funeral people. Absolutely insane and well 423 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: worth your read. The case. Like I said, the case 424 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: that we were just talking about reminded me of Siegfried 425 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: and Roy. We did a high profile or a celebrity 426 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: death dissection on them a few years back. And in 427 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: that case, if you were member back in two thousand 428 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: and three, that tiger lunched at Roy's next So even 429 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: though his official cause of death was COVID, he suffered 430 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: from lifelong issues after that tiger attacking his neck. So 431 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: that's a really good dissection, and they lived a really 432 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: outrageous life too, so it's really interesting. We also have 433 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: a good case this week showing how death investigators can 434 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: tell if a body was moved or not after death, 435 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: So check all that out and more head over to. 436 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: The Grossroom dot com. Now, so this nineteen year old 437 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: girl has come out to say that she's addicted to 438 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: tanning in the most unusual way. Not only does she 439 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: go in tanning beds at least four times a week, 440 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: but she also gets tanning injections five times a week. 441 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know this existed. There has to be some 442 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: kind of there definitely has to be some kind of addiction, 443 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: because when you're just especially like now in the summer, 444 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: when I'm walking around the boardwalk and stuff, it's like 445 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: there's definitely people that you could tell like it's the 446 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: summer and they're a little tan or they have a 447 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: little glow. And then there's people that you look at 448 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: they're always young women too, and you're like, that doesn't 449 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: look good. You look like a weird skin color. It 450 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: doesn't look good at all, And what did you have 451 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: to do to achieve that, because that's nowhere near your 452 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: natural skin color? 453 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: No, And it's always just a very unnatural hue. And 454 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 2: then you're looking at it and you're like, you know, 455 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: their skin has I see it on a lot of 456 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: the housewives. Their skin just has this like gross texture 457 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: to it from the over usage of the beds and 458 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: the exposure. 459 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it looks like it looks leathery, and 460 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: it's to me I just think it's like some kind 461 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: of dysmorphia in a way that you're not thinking that 462 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: you're tan enough and your your body, that you're doing 463 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: it over and over to make yourself darker. And even 464 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: when you look at this woman that you're talking about 465 00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: in this particular article, she she looks weird, like to 466 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: the to everyone else that looks they are, they're like 467 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: thinking that she looks weird, remember, like tan mom and stuff, 468 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: just that weird, overly dark look. It just is so bizarre. 469 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: Well, you almost feel bad because when I'm watching this 470 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: video of her talk about it, she fully acknowledges that 471 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: she's addicted to being tan and that she goes overboard 472 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: and she wishes she never even started doing it. And 473 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: then she starts talking about the ways in which people 474 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: are making fun of her on social media about it, 475 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: and it's like it it does make you have some 476 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: type of you know, sympathy for her because she's aware 477 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: that it's a problem she has, but she just can't stop. 478 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: But then clearly the negative feedback she gets is affecting 479 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: her a lot. 480 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, and it's and whatever problem is going 481 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: on in her head, that's just exacerbating it. But she 482 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: she would say that she, I guess and this is 483 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: part of the problem too, Like her mom had a 484 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: tanning bed at the house that she started using for years, 485 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: and then her mom wasn't happy about it, So then 486 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: she started going to a tanning salon. And she said 487 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: she would go to the tanning salon four times a 488 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: week for fifteen minutes, but when her mom went home, 489 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: wasn't home and she was able to use the tanning bed. 490 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: She would go in for like twenty or twenty five minutes. 491 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: Like Maria said, she was using different creams and getting 492 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: some kind of injections for her tan and I mean, 493 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: she she regrets it now, but she's going to regret 494 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: it a lot later in life because she has such 495 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: a higher risk of getting skin cancer now. Well yeah, 496 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: and she was already saying that since she started doing it, 497 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: she just has these moles all over her body that 498 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: she never had before. And she was showing one on 499 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: her stomach in particular that she said looked really weird. 500 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, please go to the doctor and 501 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: try to chase She just like really has ruined a 502 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: portion of her life, honestly, Like it's if you think 503 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: about I mean, we've had We've talked about some famous 504 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: people like Chloe kardashi and Teddy Mellencamp both have said 505 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: that they were using sun tanned beds, putting baby oil 506 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: on iodine to tan their skin. Teddy Mellencamp is like 507 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: on the outs with stage four metastatic melanoma to her brain. 508 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: Right now, Chloe Kardashian seems like she, I mean, she 509 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: had a major reception of her face. Seems to be 510 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: okay for now, But melanoma is like one of those 511 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: ugly ones that could pop up like later in life, 512 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: and it's really terrible when it pops up again. Indoor 513 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: tanning is considered to be one of the most dangerous 514 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: environmental risk factors for cancer, like worse than cigarettes. If 515 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: you could believe it or not. 516 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't believe that. She said that if she 517 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: started getting wrinkles, that would probably encourage her to stop. 518 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: And I'm like, not the moles all over your. 519 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: Body like I would be, And she might not get 520 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: wrinkled for a while. Isn't she a teenager? She's nineteen 521 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: years old. Like, even if she goes and gets tanned 522 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: like that, she might not get wrinkled for years, and 523 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: she does not need to do this for more years. 524 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: So the tanning bed increases the risk of melanoma three 525 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: times as much if you use it over fifty hours 526 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: in your life. Fifty hours in your life, and she's 527 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: using it in a week. It's so scary because the 528 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: beds admit ten to fifteen times higher UV radiation than 529 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: the sun does when it's at its peak, so that 530 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: radiation is causing DNA damage to the cells, which can 531 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: lead to cancer, can lead to atypical cells, and it 532 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: could lead to cancer. But they're saying that if you've 533 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: had your first exposures to indoor tanning before the age 534 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: of thirty five, it's associated with a seventy five percent 535 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: increase risk of skin cancer, particularly melanoma, which is the 536 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: worst one. 537 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: So what about the tanning injections because I saw that, 538 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: But she was saying that she saw a person on 539 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: Facebook advertising them and that's when she decided to get them. 540 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: And a big question I have too is like, I 541 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: know she has the tanning bed at her house, but 542 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 2: she said she's also going to a salon and then 543 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: she's getting these injections. Where is she getting all the money, 544 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: Like is she working a job to pay for it 545 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: herself or are her parents giving it to her? Because 546 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: in my mind, she's saying it upsets her mom how 547 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: much she's using the tanning bed, But if they are 548 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 2: giving her the funds to do it, they're not really 549 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: preventing her from doing it. 550 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like, honestly, if I'm that kid's mom, I 551 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't have a tanning bed anyway, but like, 552 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: get rid of it. Your kid obviously has a problem. 553 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean she's nineteen. She I had a job for 554 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: like three or four years by the time I was nineteen, 555 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: Like she could have her own money. My kids have 556 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: their own money from saving their allowance. 557 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: Like I just feel like it's so expensive to go 558 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: to a salon. And then these injections are so weird 559 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: to me. I've never heard about them before. I hope 560 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: she's not getting them through the person on Facebook. But 561 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: what legitimate person would be offering something like this? 562 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: So I was just looking this up on my phone. 563 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: We talked about this before we started mother nos Death 564 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: on my Heart about a self tanning nasal spray. Do 565 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: you remember that? 566 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 567 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it was called Melano tan, and it 568 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: was a chemical that was a similar hormone to making 569 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: melanin in the skin, and it had I guess it 570 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: was originally discovered to be an erectile dysfunction drug, but 571 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: somehow it also darkens the skin, so people were using 572 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: it as to give themselves a tan. I'm not the 573 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: doctor that one of the doctors working on the drug 574 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: injected it in himself and had a two hour erection, 575 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: So I don't it is injectable apparently. I don't know 576 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: if he was injecting that, or if she was injecting this, 577 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: or what is this? Is this in America this case? No, 578 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 1: it's in the UK, Yeah, So I don't know, like 579 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: what medication that they have available over there. But all 580 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: of that drug also increases your risk of getting melanoma, 581 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: So I'm not exactly sure. Like she's she's just like 582 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: really living an unhealthy life and someone needs to intervene 583 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: because it's really sad. 584 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: So what you're saying is, if you see a really 585 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: tanned man out there, he's potentially on a naseless pray 586 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: for rect how at this function. 587 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's here either, honestly, But it 588 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: just seems irresponsible. 589 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I feel bad because she acknowledges 590 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: the problem, but she doesn't know how to get out 591 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: of it. And it's a very unusual addiction to have. 592 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: I mean, what do you even do for this? Is 593 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: she go to rehab? Like? 594 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: What can you do? The same thing when you have 595 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: a sex addiction or something like that. There's there's different 596 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: therapies and ways around it, maybe medications. She's having a 597 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: form of body dysmorphia for sure. Yeah, just because you 598 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: feel like that in general, like when not not to 599 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: say me or anybody else is like the person that 600 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: makes the decision of who looks normal and who doesn't. 601 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: It looks like she's hurting herself doing this. It's the 602 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: same thing when you see people have crazy extreme plastic 603 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: surgeries or body modifications in any kind of way. It's 604 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: just along the same line. So however they would treat that. See, 605 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: this would be a good question for doctor Angie Arnold 606 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: that we met this week. Who I love her, She's outrageous. 607 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: We'll try to get it on. Yeah, all right, explain 608 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: this vaginal hay fever. 609 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: I never even thought of this, but apparently because your 610 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: vage is lined with the same kind of tissue as 611 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: your mouth and nose. Your body could act similarly to 612 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: when you have like allergic rhinitis or any kind of 613 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: hay fever. You know when your nose is like running 614 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: all the time and it's very itchy, And a reason 615 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: for that is because it just it's just very like engorged, 616 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: Like it just you know that feeling when you're on 617 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: the verge of sneeze all the time and it's just 618 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: very active. I guess the same thing could happen to 619 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: your vagina. So it either could happen from being exposed 620 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: to an allergen and it going through your entire body, 621 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: or for your vagina to be I mean, this is 622 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: less likely, at least in my situation, for your vadge 623 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: to be exposed to pollen. Like not to say that 624 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: other people aren't, because I'm sure they are, but so 625 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: you could have a direct exposure as well that could 626 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: give you symptoms of itching and uncomfortable badge. I just 627 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: I really never even thought about it. 628 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: No, I definitely never did either, But now that you're 629 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: explaining it, that obviously makes sense. But I think that 630 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: maybe it's not as common because people are clothed down 631 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: there where your face is not clothed, so you're being 632 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: exposed to it all the time. 633 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: You could put itchy badge up there with one of 634 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: the most torturous things as well. Honestly, Yeah, And I 635 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: found it interesting in this article because they were saying 636 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: vaginal is in general are often quote dismissed, misdiagnosed, or internalized, 637 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: is something women should just put up with, And I'm like, yeah, 638 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: with every other issue we have down there, you know, 639 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: now it is a diet for this thing get blown off. 640 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: I had I don't know what happened when I was 641 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: in my very young twenties that I had like this 642 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: itching problem that wouldn't go away, and it was like 643 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: not yeast infection and stuff. And then finally I switched 644 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: to a very gentle soap, which now I'm like hardcore 645 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: have used every day since I've been twenty years old, 646 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: and it never came back, but it was. It was terrible, 647 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: And I do remember going I mean this would back 648 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: in they're early they're early two thousands or the late nineties, 649 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: but I remember going to the doctor and them just 650 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: being like, oh, it's whatever, like not, and I'm like, no, listen, 651 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: like this needs to be dealt with because I can't 652 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: handle this. It's it's torture. And once you know you're 653 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: so sensitive down there, once you're inflamed, it's just like, 654 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, got it. I remember that being the 655 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: worst thing ever. And I guess I was just having 656 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: a sensitivity to soap right because I didn't really think 657 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: about using a harsh perfume soap detergent down there would 658 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: do that, but that that was ultimately what it was. 659 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: But okay, well, on that note, don't forget. We are 660 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: going to Crime Con in Denver this September. We were 661 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 2: very excited. We're doing a live podcast show. You are 662 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: going to be doing a lecture. Believe, we're doing a 663 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: meet and greet two one day, so there's lots of 664 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: stuff to happen, and you get to see everybody else 665 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: in the true crime world, like Matt Murphy, Cheryl McCollum. 666 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 2: You know these people have been on our show, Joseph 667 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: Scott Morgan. You could also visit our great friend Tom 668 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: Smith from the gold Shields. Yeah, he's gonna have a booth, 669 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: such a good time. 670 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: I'm like happy to like hang out with all of 671 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: our friends in one sitting. It's going to be amazing. 672 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean we're personally so because we get to 673 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,479 Speaker 2: see a lot of our friends. But if you guys 674 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: are interested in true crime, you get to see everybody 675 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 2: that's there, and the lectures are alway. It is amazing. 676 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: It's always a good time. You get to see anybody, 677 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: you could get to hear topics. I don't know what 678 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: the top is you're gonna be last year, but I 679 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 2: heard topics ranging from you know, like the Nexium cult 680 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: to the rush shooting. 681 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: You said that cool crime scene drawling workshop or what 682 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: was it? Yeah, they did an artist They did a 683 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: sip and drawl with a forenzic sketch. Yeah, courtroom sketch artist. 684 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: So I got to do that, which was a blast, 685 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: and he went around the room making fun of people 686 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: or telling him if they did a. 687 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 2: Good job, and it was truly so awesome. So I 688 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: hope they do something like that again because you missed it, 689 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: but I think you would even enjoy it too. 690 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was wasn't that Like right after my lecture, 691 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: I just needed to decompressed. 692 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so grab tickets for Crime kind You guys definitely 693 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: don't want to miss that. If you have a review 694 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: for us, please head over to Apple or Spotify and 695 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: subscribe to our YouTube channel. 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