1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff Mom Never Told You from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Kristen and I'm Caroline and Caroline on the podcast, we 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: have talked a lot about sex. We've talked a lot 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: about pregnancy. So let's bring them both together for pregnancy sex. Okay, 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: And if there are guys out there, like my roommate, 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: they just went a lot of people have a bad 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: reaction to pregnancy sex. Well, it might because it doesn't 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: necessarily go together in our brain because we have sex 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: to get pregnant, but then after that we don't think 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: about having more sex. And also if you think about 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: it too, like uh um, once you are pretty full 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: term with a baby, it might not seem like there's 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: a lot of room to have sex. Yeah, or that 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: it's safe or comfortable. Yeah, Like what if like could 16 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: you poke a baby? If you're having sex? Lets to say, hey, 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: hey baby, you awake, So let's talk about pregnancy sex. 18 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Can you have it? The answer spoiler alert, Yes you can. Yeah, Um, 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: it's safe. It's perfectly safe. That's for low risk pregnancies. 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: We should say it's perfectly safe. Unfortunately, a lot of 21 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: this confusion about like is it safe, when should you 22 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: do it? When should you not do it? Is because 23 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: there there really is kind of a lack of guidelines 24 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: and information out there for for pregnant people. Yeah, I 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: was very surprised to find that it was only in 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: February of two thousand eleven that there was a primer 27 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: on pregnancy sex published for the first time. This was 28 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: in the Canadian Medical Association Journal, because of that dearth 29 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: of information about it. And they found that by tracking 30 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: women who were pregnant and had different kinds of like 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: low risk pregnant season, some had higher risk pregnant season. 32 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: Tracking the different kinds of sexual activity that they had, 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: they concluded that a lot of our fears about having 34 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: sex while you're pregnant, we're really for no reason. Yeah, 35 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: and I did realize that I said pregnant people earlier 36 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: women are people. Um So, Crystal Chan, who's the co 37 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: author of the study that that Kristen mentioned, talks about 38 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: different stages of pregnancy and and what might feel good 39 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: and when you might not really feel sexy because your 40 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: sex drive and your libido do fluctuate during your your 41 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: three trimesters. Yeah, it pretty much looks like a bell 42 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: curve because during the first trimester, you are getting morning sickness, 43 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: you're fatigued, you're nauseated. I don't know about you, Caroline, 44 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: that does not sound like sexy time times to me. 45 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: But come the second trimester, wow, watch out, because not 46 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: only are you more lubricated, you also have increased blood 47 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: flow to the genitals and engorgement. Your body is ready 48 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: to have sex. And I have talked to friends who 49 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: have been pregnant before and they can attest to being very, 50 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: very randy during pregnancy. Well, so that's got to be unfortunate. Though, 51 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: If you're in your second trimester and you are feeling 52 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: kind of randy but your partner is too afraid to 53 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: have sex with you, well we can now dispel some fears. Perhaps, right. 54 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: That is pregnancy sex for all, unless it's your third trimester, 55 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: in which case there's some weight gain and back pain 56 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: going on. So you really might just feel uncomfortable and 57 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, might not really be in the mood that much. 58 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: But according to the Mayo Clinic, as long as your 59 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: pregnancy is proceeding normally, you can have all the sex 60 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: you want because it will not cause a miscarriage. Yeah, 61 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: and for people who might be nervous that you could 62 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: harm the fetus by having intercourse. During pregnancy, the fetus 63 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: is very protected by amniotic fluid and the uterus and 64 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: on top of that a mucous plug that blocks the cervix. 65 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: It has been described as a pillow surrounded by another 66 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: pillow by Dr Daniel Stelaski over at web md, and 67 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: a lot of times once especially, it's it's usually the 68 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: men who are a little more concerned about their penis 69 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: poking the baby. And yeah, a lot of times once 70 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: they hear about all of the swaddling, the pillow, noness 71 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: of it all usually puts them a little bit more 72 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: at ease. Right. But so some of this misinformation or 73 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: lack of information has led to some interesting, interesting medical advice. 74 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: This is from a Time article on the topic u UM. 75 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: One Italian doctor said that she advises women to avoid 76 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: orgasm because the uterine contractions could lead to labor. And 77 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: she said, I tell patients they can have sex as 78 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: much as they want, as long as they don't enjoy it. Right, 79 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: But that's actually a huge myth, right, because the uterine 80 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: contractions that might be stimulated by an orgasm are different 81 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: from labor contractions, right, and so having an orgasm while 82 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: you're pregnant doesn't increase the risk of premature labor. So 83 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: we can just put that one to risk. But what 84 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: about positions. Surely you know there are some sexual positions 85 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: that might be better than better for baby than others. Yeah, uh, 86 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: most are okay, uh they this is from Mayo Clinic. 87 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: They suggest that you try lying next to your partner, 88 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: maybe spooning or on top ask men even suggested that 89 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: you maybe have your your partner sitting in a chair 90 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: and you sit in his lap. Try it that way 91 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: because actually there is one position that is that does 92 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: start to have some complications. Yeah, missionary looks like, if 93 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: you're pregnant and you want to have sex, you gotta 94 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 1: spice it up a little bit because having sex while 95 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: with a pregnant woman on her back might not be 96 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: so great because it increases the like the weight of 97 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: the growing uterus will put pressure on major blood vessels 98 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: and it could cause supine hypotensive syndrome that could lead 99 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: to a change in heart rate and blood pressure and dizziness. Yeah, 100 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: so make a make a chair handy for you guys. Um, Now, 101 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: oral sex, what about oral sex, that's safe, right, Well, 102 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: mostly unless your partner blows air into your vagina, in 103 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: which case, oh my god, I never knew this, but 104 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: a burst of air actually could block a blood vessel, 105 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: causing an air embolism, and that could be life threatening 106 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: not only for the fetus but also for the mother. 107 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: So oral sex, you know, that's okay, but no no blowing, 108 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: no blowing. Anal sex, though, this might be off the table, 109 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: just to be on the safe side, because a pregnancy 110 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: related hemorrhoids could make it uncomfortable and it could also 111 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: allow infection, causing bacteria to spread from the rectum to 112 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: the vagina. Uh, it's not a guarantee, and it's not 113 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: saying that you will necessarily hurt the baby, but just again, 114 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: to be on the safe side, you might want to 115 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: just steer clear of anal sex, right. And there's a 116 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: question about condoms, you know, do you need to use 117 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: a condom? Well, you should always use a condom if 118 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: your partner does have a sexually transmitted infection. But there 119 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: is that whole discussion about you know, for for two 120 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: committed partners in a relationship, who they are, you know, 121 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: they know that they don't have a sexually transmitted infection. 122 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: It's like, whoa, we could have sex and no birth control, 123 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: but to be safe, you want to wear a condom 124 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: during pregnancy because s t I S could increase the 125 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: risk of infections that can end up affecting your pregnancy 126 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: and the fetus's health. Yeah, and there is a myth 127 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: out there that once you get pregnant you can't contract 128 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: an s c I or an STD and that is 129 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: totally false, which is why this condom conversation comes up 130 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: to begin with. So it sounds like, you know, we 131 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: can go for it. Maybe no, maybe no anal sex 132 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: and perhaps no keep the missionary position limited, especially as 133 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: the pregnancy progresses. So yeah, we can do everything right 134 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: unless unless, unless, there are a couple of conditions. This 135 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: is also coming from the Mayo clinic. So it is 136 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: not safe pregnancy. Sex is not safe if you're at 137 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: risk for preterm labor, if you have unexplained vaginal bleeding 138 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: or you're lacking amniotic fluid, or if your servix begins 139 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: to open prematurely. Your placenta partly or completely covers your 140 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: cervical opening and is last one is known as placenta previa, 141 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: which puts the mother risk of hemorrhaging. Yeah. A lot 142 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: of times in those situations, a you will want to 143 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: consult your doctor. And a lot of times doctors will 144 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: say maybe no to intercourse. But that doesn't mean that 145 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: oral sex would be off the table if, for instance, uh, 146 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: intercourse is a no go. Not to make myself some 147 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of pregnancy sex therapist for a minute. And if 148 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: you are having sex while you're pregnant and you notice 149 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: bleeding or a foul smelling discharge, it could be the 150 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: sign of an infection that could travel up the uterus. 151 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: So again, check in with your doctor if that's going on. Yeah, 152 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: definitely safe than sorry, I'm safe and sorry. But really 153 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: with the finding, the major takeaway from that study that 154 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: was published in the Canadian Medical Journal in two thousand 155 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: eleven is that, more than we have ever acknowledged in 156 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: the past, sex during pregnant see is generally fine. Yeah, 157 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean, as long as you find a comfortable, safe 158 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: position with your partner, go for it. Yeah, and do 159 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: you have a low risk pregnancy. Of course, it's always 160 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: talked to your doctor. You should be checking in with 161 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: with the duck or the nurse practitioner. We do not 162 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: wear lab coats here. No, that's for sure. Now all right, 163 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: so we're talking about sex during pregnancy. What's what's this 164 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: thing about sex or pregnancy? I mean being an aphrodisiac. Yeah, 165 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: during the second trimester. You know, we mentioned that the 166 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: women's libido tends to skyrocket, But what about guys. For 167 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: some men and I've met for someone listening, pregnancy is 168 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: a turn on there, I said it. Yeah, there there 169 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: are certain things that really draw men to pregnant ladies. 170 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: According to sex educator Logan love Cough, this isn't an 171 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: article on CNN. She said, there's something about being pregnant 172 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: that gives you this sense of confidence, being in your 173 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: own skin. There is something about owning that and owning 174 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: your body, and people pick up on that. Yeah, then 175 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: they go, want to say, a voracious appetite for food 176 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: translates to an appetite for other things life in general, 177 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: and of course sex. They make pregnancy sounds of cosmopolitans. 178 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're out there on ferris wheels 179 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: and swinging around, throwing your hat up in the air 180 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: like Mary Tyler Moore, momos have never looked so good. Um. So, yeah, 181 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean You've also heard about the pregnancy glow, and 182 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know pregnant women out there 183 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: were you glowing? Uh, this could be just more of 184 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: the projecting confidence thing, like, Hey, I'm growing a person 185 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: inside of me, you know, like I'm growing this little 186 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: fetus that's gonna you know, pop out and be my baby. 187 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: That's that's a pretty impressive thing for your body to do, right, Yeah, 188 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: I mean, my body's never done that keeps impressive to me. 189 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: Sharon cook Over at CNN talked to some fellows to 190 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: try to get to the bottom of this, and they started, Yeah, 191 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: the glow that you're talking about. Obviously breast engorgement. Your 192 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: boobs tend to get bigger, and supposedly men are quote 193 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: unquote wired to scan for signs of fertility, and so 194 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: a pregnant woman always brings out an odd mix of 195 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: physical attraction and desire to be protective. She writes, even 196 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: if it is not that person's fetus inside of a woman, 197 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: that there's still something that supposedly is is sparked, perhaps 198 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: to the point of being a fetish Yeah, and I mean, 199 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: what a better sign of fertility than you know, actually 200 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: being pregnant. That gets a pretty good sign. Now, there's 201 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: also this idea that mom's hormones can affect dad's hormones 202 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: and that this creates a bonding situation. UH. Neuropsychiatry is 203 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: Luann Brizendine. UH put it out there that pregnant women's 204 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: pheromones suppressed testosterone levels and their male partners and in 205 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: turn increase the men's production of prolactin. This leads to 206 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: quote unquote daddy brain and bonds the father to the mother. Supposedly, Yeah, 207 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: and there have been a number of cross cultural studies 208 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: that have confirmed that men who have kids, and specifically 209 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: who spend time with their children do have lower levels 210 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: of testosterone in their saliva and uh increased levels of prolactin, 211 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: that bonding hormone compared to childless single men. But when 212 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: it comes to that attraction of say like a guy 213 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: who's walking through a grocery store sees a pregnant women 214 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: a woman and is aroused by that, that that has 215 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: nothing to do with this kind of physiological response. And 216 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: in fact, a study published in the Journal of Sexual 217 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: Medicine and two thousand eleven looked into what might possibly 218 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: cause that arousal specifically in heterosexual guys towards pregnant women. 219 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: And this was conducted by some Italian researchers, and they 220 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: found a correlation at least caveat correlation causation ahead. Uh. 221 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: They found that men who had been exposed the longest 222 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: to their moms who were pregnant or breastfeeding were the 223 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: most uh titilated by pregnant women. Right. They did find 224 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: that the preference for pregnant and breastfeeding women was more 225 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: common in men who had younger siblings. And this is 226 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: sort of like the sibling would have to be within 227 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: five years younger than them, because that's your that's your 228 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: really like sensitive period to you know, develop mentally, when 229 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: you're when you're Freudian, sexual imprinting supposedly happens. Right. So 230 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm and if your partner has younger siblings ubba hobba, 231 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: he might really find you very sexy. Yeah, if you're 232 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: a guy who comes is the oldest from a large family, 233 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to be very curious to hear if 234 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: if that is anecdotally confirmed. And I'm also curious with 235 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: this whole pregnancy fetish thing. Uh. Not surprisingly, a lot 236 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: of this is focused just on guys, and anecdotally, I 237 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: do know of guy friends who have expressed similar interest 238 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: in in pregnant women. Did they do they say? What, 239 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: did they explain anything behind it? It is, uh, it's 240 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: generally it's the thing. I mean, it's not a ton 241 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: of guys. It's only like probably like two or three 242 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: that I can think of at the top of my 243 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: head that I've had a conversation with about it. But 244 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: they normally explain it as there's no possible way that 245 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: they could impregnate that person, so it's completely in a 246 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: re productive sense, safe sex. Okay, I don't know, but 247 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: I also don't know. I'm now thinking I don't. I 248 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: don't know what they're They're sibling lineup is maybe that 249 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: had something to do with it. But I also wondered 250 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: too though, if in same sex populations, if this happens, 251 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: if if some lesbians out there also attracted to pregnant women, 252 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: I bet there's a pregnancy glow attractiveness that happens. Yeah. Okay, 253 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: So babbel dot Com had had a nice little funny 254 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: slideshow of stock photos over on their website kind of 255 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: going over why your man would be super attracted to 256 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: you during your pregnancy. And you know number one, he 257 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: feels like a man. He's proud that you're carrying his child. 258 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: He likes your new curves, you can try all those 259 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: new sex positions that we mentioned, And he wants to 260 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: touch you more. And I I thought this was the 261 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: best slash weirdest statement ever as far as he wants 262 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: to touch you more. Quote, he can't deny your dough 263 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: eyes when you ask for intimate services like backgroubs and 264 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: foot massages. Now, wouldn't you assume that perhaps the pregnancy 265 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: was preceded by a said lack of denial or said 266 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: intimate services. Intimate services? Yeah, and they mentioned the whole 267 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: no birth control thing. You're glow again. There's that glow. 268 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Maybe we should do a podcast on the pregnancy glow. 269 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: And can you get it without being pregnant? Mmmm? Well, 270 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean I use blush that gives me a nice 271 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: some bronzer. Yeah, so that's how we single ladies get 272 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: our glow. There's also your raging hormones, which equals sexy times. 273 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: I can try mster watch out. Yeah, but okay, so 274 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: what else is there? Your skin supposedly get softer you're 275 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: bonded because you're planning on being parents together. I mean, 276 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's an incredible process to go to go through. 277 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: Um and this was also mentioned from that CNN article, 278 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: your confidence and your grace of saying, hey, you know 279 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: what I am, I'm a woman with a growing child 280 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: side of me. Yeah. Well, I do know a lot 281 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: of friends who have had babies who would disagree with 282 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: the grace thing because eventually there just comes a point, 283 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: like my poor friend Jessica, Eventually there just comes a 284 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: point where you just feel like, get this out of me. 285 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: I am hot and uncomfortable and swollen. So maybe if 286 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: if you have felt graceful during your pregnancy, I would 287 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: like to hear that story. Yeah, imagining being being pregnant 288 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: in the dead of summer. My mother was she threatened 289 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: to kill people? Uh if she didn't get americanditioning. But 290 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: I bet she threatened gracefully in her very Southern lady 291 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: kind of way. Yes. But the great news is, though, 292 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: with all of the information that we have just told 293 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: out about more of the mechanics of sex arousal around 294 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: sex except maybe like the you know, the morning sickness 295 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: phase and toward the ladder end of the third trimester. 296 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: It sounds all good, like, apparently you're giving off sexy vibes, 297 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: you're feeling sexy vibes. Is pregnancy the sexiest nine months 298 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: of your life? I don't know. I think it's time 299 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: to ask listeners. Can pregnancy sex happened? Doesn't happen? When 300 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: were the times when you were like, ab solutely not 301 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: don't do this. And guys out there are pregnant women 302 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: just mysteriously or not so mysteriously attractive. Do you walk 303 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: up to pregnant women in the grocery store? Do you 304 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: ask pregnant women on dates? That? That was one story 305 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: and some article about a guy who walked up to 306 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: that woman and asked her to go to or watch 307 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: a soccer game or something. Yeah, go watch the World Cup. Yeah, 308 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: just ignore the wedding ring. Why don't you? Jeez? Ever, 309 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: so let us know all of your pregnancy sex stories. 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Her response came via text message, and I, 338 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: as the reader of this message, will translate um. He 339 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: said that his cousin Jo Hannah's d they did a 340 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: good job. Thank you, Johannah. I heard about a lot 341 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: of that initial Zane band stuff while living in Olympia, 342 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: though it was just before I moved there. The familiar 343 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: names are Beth Ditto, a friend, Carrie Brownstein, an acquaintance, 344 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: Lady Fest. I've volunteered at the first one and K Records. 345 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: That's where I worked, but they got sort of pushed 346 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: out of the movement when Toby Vale broke up with 347 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: the label owner. So thank you for sending us her story. 348 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: And I've got an email here from Laana in response 349 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: to our episode about fem phobia. She writes, I have 350 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: a bad habit that was especially prevalent when I was younger, 351 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: that I will call feminine dismissal. I wouldn't say it 352 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: was a criticism or phobia of the feminine, but rather 353 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: just a complete dismissal of any women who choose fancy 354 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: clothes and lots of makeup. To me, these women skate 355 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: by on their looks and don't really have anything to add. 356 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I have any malicious feelings about them, 357 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: just apathetic dismissal. Of course, this is bad, but I 358 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: habit I still struggle with. However, maybe considered this part 359 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: of my dismissal comes from body image issues. The lack 360 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: of confidence in my body makes it easy for me 361 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: to say, you don't dress like that because you are 362 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: a smart, successful woman instead of an airhead. You mentioned 363 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: in the podcast that once again, it all seems to 364 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: come back to how women look, an endless cycle of 365 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: overlapping and confusing concepts. Everyone you assume that a woman 366 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: who is very feminine must be vacuous, or you're secretly 367 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: jealous but it's easier to criticize. Or do you really 368 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: just not like lips it because it makes your lips 369 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: feel waxy and funny, or you're just too ashamed of 370 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: your body to care. It's exhausting analysis indeed, and I 371 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: think that those all of those issues do tend to overlap. 372 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, I mean if you are if 373 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: you are looking at a woman and without even talking 374 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: to her, assuming that based on her high heels and 375 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: the color of her hair that she doesn't have anything 376 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: between her ears. Had a problem enough with a fem 377 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: dismissal and femphobia. You find your confidence, all right, That's 378 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: what I had to say. 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