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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: It's time for the Fantasy Football Focus and Matt Our

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Speaker 2: lineup didn't quite get over to hug this week in

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Speaker 2: the DFS one hundred and nineteen point one to eight

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Speaker 2: points in the contest that we were in that gave us.

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Speaker 2: That left us about let me see here, that left

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Speaker 2: us five points out of four actually four points in

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Speaker 2: change out of the.

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Speaker 3: Money one Connor Hayward touch.

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Speaker 2: Connor Hayward scores on that little uh we likes direction.

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Speaker 2: He instead he gets four point three points two catches

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Speaker 2: for twenty three yards. Again for what we paid for him,

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Speaker 2: twenty five hundred dollars. I might add he was used

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Speaker 2: in three point one percent of lineups, and I.

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Speaker 3: Think all of them are listening, all three in the

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Speaker 3: contest we were in, there's I think five or six

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Speaker 3: lineups that had the exact same score as us with

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Speaker 3: Connor Hayward.

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Speaker 2: I thought that with the exact same lineup. So sorry

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Speaker 2: our fault, right, Uh you know, if we get the

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Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson catching run down inside the eight instead of

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Speaker 2: George Pickens getting called for the bluck, we probably finish

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Speaker 2: in the money, a good chance of it. That's just

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Speaker 2: how close it is. We had brock Perdy, he got

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Speaker 2: us fourteen point seven eight points. Yeah, fifteen point seven

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Speaker 2: percent ownerships. Is that there were some other people thinking

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Speaker 2: like us on this one.

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Speaker 3: Not quite good enough from him? Didn't look great either.

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Speaker 2: They scored seventeen points. That's not good enough.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were gonna blow them out and blow

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Speaker 3: is that wrong?

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Speaker 2: Aaron Jones eight point seven points? That was very disappointing

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Speaker 2: against They're so disappointing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've been harping on the Chargers being disappointing.

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Speaker 3: They go to Denver and lose after a bye, and

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Speaker 3: Aaron Jones is like, he should be the staple of

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Speaker 3: your offense. He's like the only older reliable guy would

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Speaker 3: use him like crazy. I don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: We also got hurt by Kenneth Walker. Uh he was

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Speaker 2: using sixty six sixty six point eight percent ownership, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but didn't score. He only had two catches for six yards,

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Speaker 2: so he doesn't do anything for you there.

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Speaker 3: It was in the game all day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Good, great, that's the difference between fantasy in real life.

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Speaker 2: I you five for fifty seven. He was used in

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Speaker 2: forty nine point three percent of lineups.

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Speaker 3: Very high ownership.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, only ten point seven points. All that came early

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Speaker 2: in that game.

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Speaker 3: He took great early. I mean they just I'm sure

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Speaker 3: Flora has had some adjustments, but still, I mean he

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Speaker 3: did nothing.

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Speaker 2: Figure out a way to get your best guy at

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Speaker 2: the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they shifted the kiddle a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rashi Rice was the right move.

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Speaker 3: He's trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen percent ownership and only forty seven hundred dollars. We

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Speaker 2: got seventeen points out of him, five for sixty in

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Speaker 2: a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll take it. Yeah, he wasn't super expensive.

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Speaker 2: Definitely trending in the right direction. Deontay Johnson, you.

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Speaker 3: Know DFS better than I did. Do you think he'll

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Speaker 3: be more expensive this upcoming week? He'll start to creep out.

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Speaker 3: I think so, but he'll still be in that five

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars range. Okay, it won't be drastic, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, Deontay Johnson coming back this week was a five

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars player that he had five for seventy nine

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Speaker 2: only three point nine percent ownership, so you.

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Speaker 3: Know, as mentioned yesterday, though, I think his snap council

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Speaker 3: keep growing. Yeah, they were low for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, our Connor Hayward start three point one percent ownership

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Speaker 2: as I pullitioning two catches for twenty three yards four

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Speaker 2: point three points for that price, Yeah, which allowed us

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Speaker 2: to go get then aj Brown who had thirty two

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Speaker 2: point seven the monster. That was the right move to make.

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Speaker 3: Then.

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Speaker 2: Where we really got hurt.

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Speaker 3: Though, was real quick on Hayward though, I'm sorry before

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Speaker 3: we get off him. He's like the receiving titles to

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Speaker 3: receiving two very distinct roles now with Friarmuth out, So

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Speaker 3: don't forget about him going forward.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, absolutely, I think his his price point again.

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Speaker 2: If he's that cheap again this week, he probably will

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Speaker 2: be fire him up again to that.

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Speaker 3: I would be all over it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The forty nine or defense let us down a little

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Speaker 2: bit too. Yeah, one interception that game, Yeah, because they

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Speaker 2: get really well.

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Speaker 3: I mean you kind of walked into I was equating

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Speaker 3: it to like playing a hot goalie in the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: you know, like Cousins was just dolling it up. Plus

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Speaker 3: they didn't have that much pressure. Neither team got much pressure. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that Vikings Zoe Line's good.

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Speaker 2: We were close.

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Speaker 3: We were close.

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Speaker 2: We just you know, a couple more points out of

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Speaker 2: the defense. We're in good shape. But at least we

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Speaker 2: can start b Sean Robinson or anything like that. Kenneth

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Speaker 2: Walker falls into the end zone, We're good. Just it

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Speaker 2: didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Looking at this week's top waiver wire pickups. Since this

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Speaker 2: is Tuesday, h Kyler Murray again on the lister and

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Speaker 2: he's now roster than forty two percent leagues. It won't

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Speaker 2: be this week. It's probably you're looking at next week.

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Speaker 3: He's worth a stash if you can handle it. If

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Speaker 3: you're light at quarterback like like you, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: I have. He's one of the ones sitting on my bench.

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Speaker 2: You might not have a quarterback to plays again this week.

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Speaker 3: The only one possible right now is Watson. I don't

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Speaker 3: think Field is going to play. I don't think it

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Speaker 3: also plays this week. And he's I mean, he's really

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Speaker 3: got basically got bench.

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Speaker 2: Last week, Baker Mayfield rostered in thirty three percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young's in ten percent. That's what you're looking at

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Speaker 2: the quarterback position right now.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I mean I noticed on our I was

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Speaker 3: actually just looking at the at the break. I mean

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Speaker 3: there's like Sam Howe and Jones from the Giants is

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Speaker 3: of leagues you can find that are okay, but it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking at a you can get fifteen points

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Speaker 3: Mean there's a lot of ritters and those type of

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Speaker 2: At running back. Darryl Henderson is twenty four percent rostered.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the one to own.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Royce Freeman is ten percent rostered.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, both should be fantasy relevant. I would prefer Henderson.

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Speaker 2: I thought about when I was in La picking up

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Speaker 2: or Darryl Henderson, I should say, because I just had

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Speaker 2: a feeling that's where they were going to go. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then when I got to La, there was some

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Speaker 2: word leaked out that that Henderson was going to get

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Speaker 2: more carries into what people thought he has. He has

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Speaker 3: With yeah, yeah, and he was good at one point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. De Mercado fourteen percent rostered. They pulled us a

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Speaker 2: little swerve on us this week, and he ended up

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Speaker 2: playing after a week after barely playing when everybody picked

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Speaker 2: him up and then probably cut him after they got

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Speaker 3: Played a lot the week before because he got thrust

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Speaker 2: And then and they ran Damian Williams. And then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, Damian Williams gets no carries and de

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Speaker 2: Mercado gets.

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Speaker 3: Is it Ingram or Damian Williams Damian Williams? Okay, I

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Speaker 3: thought I thought Conte Ingram was the other guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, he played. All he did was play special teams

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Speaker 2: this past week.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, he got no snaps. Okay, I thought he played.

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Speaker 3: Did he play a lot two weeks ago?

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Speaker 2: He played a little bit?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm getting my guys mixed up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, none of them are finished.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I want any of them.

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Speaker 2: Devin Singletary roster in fourteen percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: Last we saw him, he was out touching peers.

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Speaker 2: But then you look, they had their bye week.

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Speaker 3: It's better.

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Speaker 2: I could just see this being everybody rushes. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't start him this.

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Speaker 3: Week if I had him on my roster. I'd see

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Speaker 3: if I could move him. Yeah, someone might give you

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Speaker 3: something right now. It might be the highest ever goes. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Pierre Strong is an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not bad rostered.

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Speaker 2: He got way more run last week than Kareem Hunt.

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Speaker 2: But if you remember, Kareem Hunt was banged up going

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Speaker 3: Right, But isn't Ford Ford's out he's missing time? Yeah, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 2: They traded for him if Hunt is If Hunt is healthy, though,

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't surprise me if Hunt gets more run.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think so. I think Hunt is the third stringer,

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Speaker 3: but now starter. Yeah, you know I'm talking about behind

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Speaker 3: Hunt and or behind Chubb and Ford a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: It's Josh Downs at thirty six percent roster.

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Speaker 3: He should be at most leads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Kendrick Bourne is twenty six percent roster.

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Speaker 3: I prefer Downs, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jake Bobo is zero percent roster. I'm not picking up.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to Bobo. Marvin Mimes right now is

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Speaker 2: not rostered heavily.

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Speaker 3: He hardly even sees the field. But he's a trade away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from from playing in a okay offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not awful. Yeah, and they like him, and

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Speaker 3: when he's out there, he produces. He's kind of like

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Speaker 3: a Shaheed there, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh tight end. Dalton Kincaid forty two roster.

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Speaker 3: He ate a really nice day and as knoxes out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he should be in every league.

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Speaker 2: I'd say he would be maybe my top pick up

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Speaker 2: this one.

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Speaker 3: Of all those guys. Yeah, it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you're in a league that's just

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Speaker 2: our a fantasy situation across the league where tight ends

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Speaker 2: are scarce.

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Speaker 3: I haven't in this league because you and I are

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Speaker 3: in because I have eight hundred quarterbacks. But in my

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Speaker 3: other leagues, I've been kind of stashing tight ends even

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Speaker 3: if I don't need them, just because there's a shortage.

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Speaker 2: The trade chips. That's why I had. I had picked

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Speaker 2: up Josh Downs a couple of weeks ago, and I

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Speaker 2: am sitting sitting on my roster and then one of

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Speaker 2: the guys in our league cut Dalton Schultz because he

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Speaker 2: was on a buy and I'm like, he should be available.

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Speaker 3: He shouldn't be available. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he

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Speaker 3: in my other league, I have Laporta. I traded. I

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Speaker 3: had bad tight end, so I traded James Cook straight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you might be able to trade him with somebody

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Speaker 2: Their offense was horrendous, horrendous, And that's what you're dealing

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Speaker 3: No, I would say their defense. I mean i'd probably

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Speaker 2: Uh, you got the Rams. I'm sorry the Chargers at

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Speaker 3: Yeah they are?

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Speaker 2: Oh, No, that's the Ram I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Dallas is a must start every week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a pretty good Rams offense too.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota at green Bay you start the Vikings defense. I

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Speaker 3: It's a mess right now and considerate. But we have

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Speaker 3: no teams on buy this week, by the way, right

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Speaker 3: everybody's just weird. Six last week, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And there's there's six and week thirteen, and then there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's strange. So actually I had this cover. Is

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Speaker 2: I think it might be because of the overseas games?

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Speaker 3: I don't make the schedule. I'm not keen on Pack

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Speaker 2: Don't even fear Henry at this point, because yeah, he

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Speaker 3: Parts a shell of himself too. New England at Miami

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Speaker 2: Starting to No, nor am I that's kind of the point.

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Speaker 2: Uh the Old New York at New York. The Giants

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Speaker 3: I prefer the Jets. Yeah, canes. The Giants playable, probably probably.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's not gonna be a high scoring affair.

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Speaker 3: No, it's definitely not. You would think they'd be sacks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jacksonville Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I think I play the Jags Steelers and hold the

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Speaker 3: I mean I expect sacks from the Steelers. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Uh, Philadelphia at Washington, obviously, the Eagles are a must start.

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Speaker 3: Houston, it's not a great deep good de but yeah,

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Speaker 3: Uh, Cleveland, you're not playing Carolina's D, right, No, No.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland is at Seattle, so back to back road games.

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Speaker 2: This one's way out on the road, and their quarterback

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thirty eight points and four hundred yards of offense.

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Speaker 3: If I own this a much better offense and much

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Speaker 2: Kansas City is at Seattle, Yes.

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Speaker 2: You know, right, he's gonna throw a couple of the

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Speaker 3: Those throws right now, he's pretty darn bad and.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't played. He threw five passes last week, so

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Speaker 3: How many pass he's thrown in the last eight hundred days, right,

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Speaker 2: Much, four years pass much and it's not been good.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know the man. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: He's got the bank.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean what it sound does he have?

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Speaker 2: Kansas City is at Denver, playing Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: You're not playing Denver.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore at Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Baltimore is a great one. Yeah, Arizona's unplayable.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati is at San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Definitely not the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Are you sitting the San Francisco defense this week against Cincinnati?

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Speaker 3: Kind of like the Brown situation. It's the top two

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Speaker 3: or three defense they didn't play, No, they didn't. You

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Speaker 2: Chicago is at the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Both neither.

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Speaker 2: If I had to pick one, I would start the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think Tyler Badging all of

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Speaker 2: No, And now there's a game's worth a tape on him.

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Speaker 2: As I said, I'm just watching that game in the

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Speaker 3: You'd think Mac and Bo, so I should be able

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Speaker 2: And then the Monday night game is Las Vegas at Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Good Lions game. Yeah, Detroit, they rebound well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Detroit at home should dominate there. So there's some

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Speaker 3: Atlanta is the one that came to mind is Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City might be on some there's still this kind

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Speaker 2: I think they're I think they're wrong about that one.

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Speaker 2: And the Jets might be out there.

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Speaker 3: Jets are probably out there off of bye. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I don't I don't hate the Colts. This week

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Speaker 2: they have again the Saints at home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's not bad. Yeah, it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Saints offense is not playing.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: So there's definitely definitely option is out there this week.

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Speaker 2: We need to get to a bye. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: We're getting to our buye. He's Matt Williamson. I am

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Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio. Uh, we'll be back with more. We'll come

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Speaker 2: out of the bye right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's Black and Gold fan, habit, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson, and Matt's

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Speaker 2: time to look at the power rankings. This work on

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Speaker 2: NFL dot Com. These are from Eric Edholm, and I

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Speaker 2: think that the Steelers maybe made a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a move this.

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Speaker 3: Week, deservely so I fiddled with my top five and

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Speaker 3: bottom five today on the podcast Everyone that was bad one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there there were four of the one win teams.

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Speaker 2: Was one games last week?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, so there should be

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Speaker 3: some shuffling on both ends.

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Speaker 2: At thirty two, still holding steady. The Carolina Panthers. They

446
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:09,640
Speaker 2: were off this week.

447
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and nobody did anything awful to go below them.

448
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 2: At thirty one, dropping four spots the Arizona Cardinals and that.

449
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 3: Was Mike Chalk thirty two to thirty one, and then

450
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do. I had like five

451
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,320
Speaker 3: teams I thought were competitive for thirty at.

452
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 2: Thirty moving up a spot, this is what I would

453
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 2: have done. The New York Giants, they were the least impressive.

454
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 2: Forty fourteen to seven win over Washington was not.

455
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, I hear you. I mean some of

456
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 3: these other teams you're about to mention are equal to me,

457
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 3: But I hear you.

458
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 2: The Bears move up a spot to twenty nine.

459
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 3: Fine, Yeah, they were running as well.

460
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 2: At twenty eight moving up a spot the Patriots.

461
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 3: Good I was that was my worry, was someone oh

462
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 3: their back. Oh yeah, don't worry. They'd be a division

463
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 3: team and a nice win. But that's hold the horses there.

464
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 3: You know.

465
00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: Win was a factor in that game too. Yeah. At

466
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 2: twenty seven up a spot is Denver.

467
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, all those teams are the ones I thought

468
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 3: for that neighborhood.

469
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 2: At twenty six holding steady the Tennessee Titans.

470
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 3: I kind of got a different reaction.

471
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 2: They might go the other way here. I think they

472
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 2: might continue quick.

473
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 3: Yes, and they were in this neighborhood for me. When

474
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 3: I think you get into teams that are okay.

475
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: Twenty five down a spot is Washington.

476
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 3: They're falling too. Yeah, I mean easy to get sacked,

477
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 3: like one hundred and twenty times they get them.

478
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: At some point here you get to bench him.

479
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, it's it is his fault as much

480
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 3: as any but yeah, yeah, I would.

481
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 2: I would bench him just for like for a game,

482
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 2: just to show him.

483
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 3: Let's see what how often those Yeah, watch him.

484
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 2: Watch watch how Jakobe gets rid of the football and

485
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: here and doesn't take these hits that you're taking yeah,

486
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 2: this is what you need to see.

487
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 3: Its teammates love him. He's a playmaker, I get stuff.

488
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I liked him in the draft process, right,

489
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 3: But there's some talk they think he's the long term answer.

490
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then I think you sit

491
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: him down for the his own good before he gets is.

492
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: How it can be. You don't have to take six

493
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 3: sacks again for a game. But they're going the wrong

494
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: direction too.

495
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: At twenty four down a spot, the Raiders, Oh.

496
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 3: I'd even be lower on them. I think they're really

497
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 3: bad right now, Yeah, really bad.

498
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: At twenty three down three spots, the Packers.

499
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: In our trade segment, who is the Raiders guy? I

500
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 3: would be, I would shop Devonte Adam. I mean, I

501
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 3: think they're done.

502
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: They've said they're not going to do that now.

503
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: I mean, Jacob is the same conversation as Barkley. I mean,

504
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 3: but they're I think I remember who the Raiders guy

505
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 3: was the top of my head.

506
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it was it was money money renfro.

507
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 3: Oh right, all right, good luck, yeah.

508
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: Good luck taking somebody take on that contract, take over junk.

509
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 2: At twenty three down three spots, the Packers deservedly so

510
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 2: they're not playing good football.

511
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 3: I'd probably have them over all these teams mentioned Packers

512
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: versus Washington, though, is about the same to Meckers for

513
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: the Raiders is yeah. I just saw that a.

514
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 2: Couple of weeks ago, and they rate the Raiders beat them.

515
00:21:59,440 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 3: That's bad.

516
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: At twenty two down eight spots, the Chargers.

517
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 3: Good.

518
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: He's out on the Chargers.

519
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 3: No, I am too. You can't play that bad that often.

520
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: At twenty one holding steady the Colts, that's fair.

521
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean they're not easy to play against.

522
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: That's fair.

523
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: At twenty up five spots, the Vikings.

524
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 3: At least again, I mean they would be in my

525
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: top seven in the NFC. You know, I think they're

526
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 3: deserve it of a playoff spot, whether they get there

527
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: or not. They went three out of four. He lost

528
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 3: was the Chiefs by seven points.

529
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: Right At nineteen down one spot, New Orleans.

530
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: Minnesota is better New Orleans.

531
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: I think they are too.

532
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: I don't like how New Orleans are playing at all.

533
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 2: At eighteen down a spot, the Rams.

534
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: Okay, no, matn't know if I would go down on them.

535
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: I mean they're an average football team.

536
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what they are. At seventeen down

537
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: five spots, Tampa Bay. The Wheels are starting to come

538
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: off here a little bit after that three and one start.

539
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: They scored thirteen points in that game and Ritter handed

540
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: them the football three times.

541
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: I would put the Rams and Vikings over all the

542
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: NFC South, Yeah, yeah.

543
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: I would too. At sixteen up six spots the Falcons.

544
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: Same.

545
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: But you get talked about the Beijon thing.

546
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: So, I mean, apparently he had a bad headache, which

547
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: is weird.

548
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: But they're in trouble with the league because he started,

549
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: he didn't he didn't feel great for Saturday night, and

550
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: you didn't add him to your injury reporting.

551
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: Right, that is a huge no nose.

552
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to add them because and then everybody's

553
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: sitting there going what happened with Bijeon of course on

554
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: the second half at the half, or like did he

555
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: do something off the field? What's going on with this? Yeah,

556
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: you know that's why you do have an injury report.

557
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: So something like that happens, because now the guy's getting

558
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: his name drug through the mud and weird than he did.

559
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 3: He saw the field here and there. You did play

560
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: a snap everything, Yeah, ten teen, Trust me, I started

561
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: my main fantasy league and what on earth is going

562
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: on here? And then late in the game, when it

563
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: didn't matter, they gave him a carry, Like you really

564
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: care about his head? Does he have a headache? Is

565
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: it something else?

566
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: Well, here's the same weird he said he wasn't feeling

567
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: right and then he had a headache the next day.

568
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: Did they check him for a concussion, because maybe that's

569
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 2: those are concussion symptoms.

570
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm not super familiar with the migraine world, but

571
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: I know they can be dehabilitating, you know, I mean

572
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: they can be brutal. I mean, is that what it is?

573
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: You should be a little clear.

574
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been a topic to be discussed.

575
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: But they put him on the field and they hand

576
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: them the football.

577
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah at fifteen up a spot. The Houston Texans they

578
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: were off.

579
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: This week, right, they were off. Yeah, I'm fine with that.

580
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean Houston versus Rams and Vikes. Yeah, yeah, I

581
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: mean I think that's a neighborhood they belong in.

582
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: Fourteen up a spot. The Jets.

583
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: I think I have the Jets behind those three teams.

584
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: I would too. Yeah, he's been high on the Jets

585
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: all year long.

586
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: No, it's time to say this offense the very good.

587
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 2: They'll beat the Giants this week and he'll move them

588
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: up to ten.

589
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

590
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, at thirteen, up six spots the Steelers. They finally

591
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: get ahead of the Jets. They're a better team than

592
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: the Jets all day long, and twice on Sunday.

593
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: Is there anyone we've mentioned you'd put over the Steelers

594
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 3: right now? No, I'd like to. I wonder if the

595
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: line would be in Minnesota today, but no, I wouldn't either. Yeah,

596
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: there are two games over five hundred right, four and two.

597
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: You are, you are what your record says you are.

598
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: At twelve up a spot the Bengals.

599
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: That's fair. I have a problem with that.

600
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: At eleven, holding steady the Seahawks.

601
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's their neighborhood. They've kind of been there all year,

602
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: and I think they will be there all the year.

603
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: At ten, holding steady the Browns.

604
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to bump them down a spot them. I

605
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: wouldn't have moved them.

606
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: On the offense is a mess, Yeah, just a mess.

607
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: I mean, what's the quarterback situation? Now? They're losing running

608
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: backs left and the team.

609
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: Start figuring out this defense a little bit, which might

610
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: be what happened on Sunday.

611
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: I'm not concerned about the defense. I mean, I still

612
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: I think.

613
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 2: It's again, I think it's a good defense. But maybe,

614
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: just maybe Indianapolis found something last week. Sure, and other

615
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: teams are gonna st We'll find out this week against Seattle.

616
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: I mean, but all these teams that I mean, I

617
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: guess you could argue about Steelers, but this is the

618
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 3: neighborhood where teams have quarterbacks. Yeah, they don't have quarterback

619
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: at all.

620
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 2: They don't have one at all.

621
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like the chet that right, right, right right,

622
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: like the placement.

623
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: Guys at nine down two SPOTSWN, well, they'd be static.

624
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: They should be eighth in the list, you know, like

625
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 3: that'd be a good team.

626
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: Nine down two spots is Buffalo.

627
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: I would put them in this. They wouldn't be a

628
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: top five type of team for me anymore. I think, Yeah,

629
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: you have to dig them.

630
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: At eight holding steady is Dallas.

631
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: Fine, I mean, they didn't do anything, and they're they're good.

632
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: They're not great.

633
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: At seven down three spots is Detroit.

634
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna think that's a blip on the radar.

635
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: I think it is too.

636
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if their stock fell on the Nasdaq or whatever,

637
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: I go buy it right now?

638
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, six holding steady is Jacksonville.

639
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: I might have the Lions over the Jags.

640
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 2: I think I would too.

641
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 3: How about Dallas hours of Jags.

642
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: I'd have Dallas over the Jaguars too.

643
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: How about like Cinci over the Jags.

644
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: I can't get there yet. Yeah, I needed a week

645
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: of I want to see what they look like making

646
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: out of the buy because we have them about eight.

647
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 2: The offense last week wasn't great played? Yeah? Yeah? Uh

648
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: at five down two spots is Miami. I guess I

649
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: don't know if I dg Miami that far.

650
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: I mean they're not very physical and they beat up

651
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage.

652
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: But the most physical team, yeah, I.

653
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: Mean, looking back, that was a bad matchup. I guess

654
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: I would be head in that neighborhood. I mean I

655
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: would have them over Jacksonville.

656
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: Like to me, Miami versus Baltimore is a discussion.

657
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: I think Baltimore's asserted themselves as a clear four. How

658
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: much I'm not looking over shoulder, I would they would

659
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: be To me, the top four was very easy. When

660
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 3: I did it today, I didn't know who to put five.

661
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: I just I actually put Detroit five.

662
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: We all of a sudden, we forget that the Ravens

663
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: lost to the Steelers are seventeen to ten.

664
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: I know, I know they lost the Colts too, right,

665
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: they were really banged up when they lost the Colts,

666
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: But they lost the Colts.

667
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Maybe the Colts have something on the ZFC North teams that.

668
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: Said, the culture might be a little underrated as well.

669
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: I would have the Lions ahead of those two teams.

670
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: And I would also if I was a Bills fan,

671
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: I'd be like, we just whipped the Dolphins.

672
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, but you haven't played well since the last

673
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: three weeks have been bad. Haven't played well since.

674
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: I would have Miami over the Bills.

675
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: It four up five spots is Baltimore.

676
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he agrees. I think they're the clear four today.

677
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: They're healthy. Both sides of the ball were going or

678
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: clicking came off.

679
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: He says that you know that it was a kind

680
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: of statement victory that makes you think the Ravens have

681
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: as good as shot to make the Super Bowl as

682
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: any AFC team right now. A ten and two record

683
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: at the by wouldn't be shocking to me. It would

684
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: be are thin rattle off five wins in a row here,

685
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: I don't think see that.

686
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: Okay, side note, just look at this today. The Bengals

687
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: have the hardest remaining schedule in the league. So the

688
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: other fans, that's noteworthy, you.

689
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: Know, right, I mean you look at we talked about

690
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: their second YEA U at three down, two spots in

691
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: San Francisco.

692
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have the Eagles over San France. I

693
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: think that might be a conversation for some. And casey

694
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: to me is now one.

695
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: Two up, three spots is Philadelphia and then it one

696
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: is Kansas City.

697
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: So here we sit around Halloween and its Kansas City

698
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia.

699
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: Wow, this changes a lot, though of course it changes

700
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: from week to wee's the NFL is such a week

701
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: to week league.

702
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: Yes, And I just to me, one of those teams

703
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: are going to get beat bad this week, you know.

704
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Ravens. The Ravens schedule.

705
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: I just I don't know their remaining schedule, but it's

706
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: not nearly as hard as.

707
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: And I get that, but I do not expect them

708
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: to be ten and two at the bye.

709
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: That's just what it looks like. But still that's rattling

710
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: off five moors pretty darn.

711
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: Let me see what they got coming up here. So

712
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: this week they're at Arizona win, okay, sure, Seattle at home.

713
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: They're favored, Cleveland at home.

714
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: Tough game. I mean that'll be first one to ten.

715
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: Cincinnati at home.

716
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: They're gonna lose one of those high games. That's as

717
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: how the division.

718
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: Goes at the Chargers, then they have their buy.

719
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they're probably eight and four.

720
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, ten and two. Ten and two is pretty because

721
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: they've they're not.

722
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: I mean I think if they play the Browns one

723
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: hundred times, they win sixty of them.

724
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a team that b Houston in

725
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: week one, okay, sure at home.

726
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: That was also rookies galore on Christ and that was

727
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: you know, absolutely brand new coach, Yeah Kindergarten. Yeah.

728
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: At Cincinnati in week two they won twenty seven to

729
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: twenty four. That was when Burrow was playing awful.

730
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: Looks less impressive than that awful.

731
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: Lose to Indianapolis to fall in week twenty two to nineteen.

732
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: Then you beat Cleveland with the rookie at quarterback twenty

733
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: eight to three. I mean they're slate.

734
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: Before the Steelers, I saw it very solid, Yeah, especially

735
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks they played and yeah, lose to.

736
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: The Steelers seventeen to ten, beat the Titans twenty four

737
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: to sixteen. Then you beat the Lions thirty eight to six.

738
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: Everybody's looking at that win over the Lions, and the

739
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: Lions have been playing good football. Well, they smoked the Lions.

740
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: They must be really, they hadn't played great before that.

741
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: I know Tennessee's not good, but that they beat them

742
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: worse than that score indication.

743
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: That's fine, But that the score on the scoreboard, it

744
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: was what it was. It was twenty four to sixteen.

745
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: But they got two good weeks in a row. At

746
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: least they.

747
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: Left a bunch of points on the field. They were

748
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: one for six in the red zone.

749
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: In the game. Yeah, that was a big difference in

750
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: this past week.

751
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't know that their their offense is suddenly fixed.

752
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: I just think it's a lamar thing against the NFC.

753
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a lot to do with it.

754
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: But like he'll go out and throw five touchdown passes

755
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: this week against the Cardinals. Again, you know this, This

756
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: Baltimore offense is unbelievable. And then in two three weeks

757
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: they'll play the Browns and it'll be seventeen thirteen.

758
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: I don't know who my vote would be, but I

759
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: think he might be MVP right now.

760
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: I can't go there.

761
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: I think Mahomes will be Mahomes. Don't forget about me.

762
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: I mean Mahomes to me.

763
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: He's gonna have something to say about it. No matter.

764
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: It's still the still the dude.

765
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: I think Tyreek is in the conversation.

766
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: Here's what I think it should be in the conversation.

767
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: It won't be TJ. Watt should be in the damn conversation.

768
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: Where are the Steelers right now? Without TJ. Watt?

769
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: They're a playoff team. I think it'd have to go

770
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: to the playoffs to even be in the con I mean,

771
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: to have a chance.

772
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: He's almost single handedly won three of their games for them.

773
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah. I know a lot of people

774
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: pushing for Miles Garrett for Defensive Player of the Year,

775
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: and he's having a.

776
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: Great Year's having a great year, but it's not been

777
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: as a packful as last year. Yeah, the defensive I

778
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: don't even think he's been like for the Vikings kind

779
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: of minimize Fred Warner last night. Other than that, Fred

780
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: Warner's been outstanding.

781
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been phenomenal too. Bosa hasn't. Parsons has been fine,

782
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: but he's been great, But he's not gonna win it

783
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: on a team that wins five games. Yeah, but the

784
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: MVP conversation, Lamar is right in the middle of like,

785
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what the odds are, but I bet

786
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: he's the lowest right now, Probably not now. Yeah's always

787
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: the lowest. Yeah. Yeah.

788
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

789
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the drive here

790
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. That was the Eric ed Holmes.

791
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Speaker 2: Uh a lot of power rankings on NFL dot Com.

792
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Speaker 2: We'll come back after this and finish up the show.

793
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Speaker 3: Nice.

794
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795
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796
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803
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: Matt This said Deshaun Watson stuff. Oh it's interesting. It

804
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: gets curiouser and curiouser to quote Alice.

805
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean deep down, I think they know he's

806
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: not good enough, you know, Like the whole shoulder stuff

807
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: was weird these these last couple of weeks, and I

808
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: keep going back, like a month ago they had him

809
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 3: warm up before the game and he was like screaming

810
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: in pain, like he wasn't even like close to being

811
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 3: looked like he could play a football game. So if

812
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: people don't know this past week he left early with

813
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 3: a concussion but was supposedly cleared. But what's not talked

814
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 3: about enough is before that concussion, he was horrendous.

815
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: Horrendous in the interception he threw had nothing to do

816
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: with his shoulder. It had everything to do with him

817
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: being bad, Yeah, not reading the defense.

818
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he threw another one. From what I remember,

819
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: that was a horrendous decision that he didn't pay for.

820
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: And they're in the game without him, Like, as the

821
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: head coach, if my job is gonna win now, yeah,

822
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: like win this game. We're talking about highs, like if

823
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 3: he doesn't make the playoffs, this year, he probably gets fired. Yeah,

824
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: and Watson's standing on the sideline next to him, smiling,

825
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: look like he's fine. Roll pulling in a bunch of money.

826
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: You know, I got sixty two million guaranteed that.

827
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: Walker get the snot beat out of him.

828
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. I think deep down they know

829
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: he doesn't help them win. It's and they're married to him.

830
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: They're married to him. Yeah, yeah, it's it's really curious. Uh.

831
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: Zach Jackson, who covers the the Browns for The Athletic,

832
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: said the Browns should trade for Jacoby Brissett. But if

833
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: you're Washington, you're not trading Jacoby Brissette.

834
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: No, he's gonna play.

835
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: He's I'm pointing he played this season.

836
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: I mean, unless you're really punting on the season. If

837
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: you're Washington, you know how last as long as you

838
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: possibly can, try to protect yourself. And because we need picks, yeah,

839
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: I mean, if you think how's your future, maybe you would.

840
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: But he's going to play because he's gonna get hurt.

841
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: Brissette's good. I'm not so sure. Bressett's not one of

842
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: the best thirty two on the plan.

843
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: The problem is that they don't have another quarterback on

844
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: their active roster.

845
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: They're not.

846
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want dt R back, right, yeah, yeah, give me.

847
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: Somebody that can play here. Yeah, I mean maybe he

848
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: want PJ. Walker back because maybe he's played for Ron

849
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 2: Rivera in the past.

850
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: But I hadn't thought of that. But you'd want one

851
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: of those two bads more than that. And I won

852
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: a nice pick.

853
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: You give a nice pick, give him up a third

854
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: round pick in PJ. Walker for Jacoby Brissett.

855
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: And Brisett would walk in and easily be their best

856
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: guy right now. I mean that's where they're at. I mean,

857
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: he was better than Watson last year. We saw this.

858
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: I mean I understood not bringing him back when you're

859
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: Cleveland because you had so much invested in the quarterback

860
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 3: room you couldn't pay another.

861
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: That's why with the way things stand right now now,

862
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: obviously that was a big win for the Browns on

863
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: Sunday to get to actually win that game. If they

864
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: lose that game, they're in a much different spot, right

865
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: really is. But winning that game changed a little bit

866
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: of this. But I don't think they're in it for

867
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: the long run. I really don't.

868
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: I don't either. I think their quarterback situation is.

869
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny Pickett has not played great this year. Sure,

870
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: there's no sugarcoating that, but he's been better than Jacobi

871
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: or better than Deshaun Watson. The Browns quarterback room, Yeah,

872
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: is the Steelers every That's all you heard the entire

873
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: last two Austin, Well, the Steelers have the worst quarterback

874
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: room in the AFC North. No they don't.

875
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: No, they don't. I mean, especially in terms of what

876
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: you have invested, what you could have had in draft picks,

877
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: in cap space.

878
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at what's what's happened on the football. Football,

879
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: You forget that stuff, but you add that into it,

880
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: it's a slam dunk.

881
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh Frankly, if you just look at football, pickt

882
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: vers Burrows a conversation for what they've put.

883
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: On, for what they put on the field this year.

884
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I trust more going forward, of course, right, But

885
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: there's only been one really good quarterback in the division.

886
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: It looked like there could be three or four.

887
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not been what what everybody thought this The

888
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in this division are outstanding. I don't know that

889
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson's ever outstanding again in his career.

890
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: It's been a long stretch and again. Oh, by the way, this.

891
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: Is starting to look more and more like Cam Newton.

892
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: I think it's like the worst, like JaMarcus Russell, or

893
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: I mean like.

894
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: In terms, but Cam Newton was Cam Newton was a

895
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: good football player. He was a league MVP. He comes

896
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: here to Pittsburgh TJ watt Rex's shoulder and he's never

897
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: the same player again. Yeah, yeah, this is this and

898
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: and he got paid after that. Yes, not like like Watson,

899
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: but this is so that's what that's why this reminds

900
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: me of what what with Cam Newton more so than

901
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: Watson could play at one point in his career. Of course,

902
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: of course, JaMarcus Russell was never anything, no.

903
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: No, no, he was just a bad pick. Yeah, he's

904
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: not the only one that's been a bad pick, right, He's.

905
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: Been lots of that.

906
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: There's been lots of that.

907
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: But I don't know that he may never be that

908
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: guy again. And Cleveland is married to him.

909
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: It's it's actually similar to Russell Wilson. Yeah, you know,

910
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: just in terms of investment wrecking an organization, bad trade.

911
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: Hey, if Aaron Rodgers never plays again, gets much the

912
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: Jets just made the same, right kind of mistake.

913
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: Right, The difference is, you know, Rogers didn't play himself out.

914
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't like, yeah, they bought it.

915
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: He got hurt.

916
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: He got hurt. You know Wilson and especially Watson. Watson's

917
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: so much worse than Wilson in terms of bad guaranteed money.

918
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: You can't get out of it.

919
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: You know what you gave up and you've kicked twice

920
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: now kicked the can down the road to these next

921
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: two years. He's over sixty million dollars on your cap.

922
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: It's sixty two Yeah, guaranteed the cap hit the next

923
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: two years, sixty two million, both of those years. And

924
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, Well, I don't hate to

925
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: say it. I mean, do you think we said that

926
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: was when they made the deal? No, I mean, and

927
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 3: he might not be a good guy, you know, like,

928
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: let's not forget it wasn't that long ago. Are the

929
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: women in the building of the Browns they're not.

930
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: Happy about it? Enough stories about that that they're not happy.

931
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not making that up. I mean it's out there.

932
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what I mean.

933
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: It's Russell Wilson turned into a pretty bad player, but

934
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: he didn't turn into an awful person or you know,

935
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: like you know, there's that too. I mean, he knew

936
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: what you were buying at the time and given guaranteed

937
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: money to it wasn't hard to see that this could

938
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: go wrong.

939
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: I mean it's actually now since they moved some more

940
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: money this year. Yeah, they tweaked it again. It's sixty

941
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: four million sixty four next two seasons, and then in

942
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven with avoidable year, it's another basically nine

943
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: million dollars because they kick some money down the road.

944
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so there there's going to be a sixty four

945
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: million dollar cap hit the next two years. I don't

946
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 3: think that. I mean, I guess they could restructure again,

947
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: but do you really want to keep You're gonna.

948
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: Have more avoidable years to this thing and lowered some

949
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: more and he can't play.

950
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: So do they do have their first round pick this year? Finally? Yeah,

951
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: let's say they just missed the playoffs. They're the sixteenth

952
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: pick in the draft. You have to consider quarterba Yeah,

953
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: you have to, right, because then your quarterback room wouldn't

954
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: be insane. I mean it would be not that much

955
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: more expensive. I don't know if you can do the

956
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: Brissette route or pay someone eight to the Trubisky route.

957
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: His dead cap hit. It's so bad for next year

958
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: if they if they decided after the season, we can't

959
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: do this anymore. One hundred and thirty seven million dollars.

960
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: It's after your salary cap.

961
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: And frankly that's true. I mean, if he gets in

962
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: trouble off the field again and they decide, well, if

963
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: he gets.

964
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: In trouble off the field again, they probably avoid the contract.

965
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: They're probably hoping.

966
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: For that, probably, I mean, yeah, okay, that would Actually.

967
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: Let's we're staying at the next to these massage parlors

968
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 2: this week. Yeah, on the road, let's pick the cedious

969
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: hotel we can find.

970
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: Seas. I'm like, he's a crack at it.

971
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, we joke about it.

972
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: But the joke about but it's like Pooky and New

973
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: Jack City, you know, right, Yeah, it's ugly. Yeah, I mean,

974
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 3: that's the only way. Financially they're in a really, really

975
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: bad spot. And again we said this when they made

976
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: the deal. He has to be a Tier one quarterback

977
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: for them to get their return on investment.

978
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: He's twenty two percent of their salary cap next year,

979
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: right for that for what he's putting on the field and.

980
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: He they're therefore they're going to cut the Amari Cooper's

981
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 3: and Jack Conklin's and certainly not going to sign anyone anymore.

982
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he misses some more games here and he's going

983
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: to be in the city. Well, he's already played. He's

984
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: already missed more games as a Brown than he's played

985
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: in So if he misses a few more games here,

986
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: he'll be two years into this. Yeah, they'll have given

987
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: him a gajillion dollars and he'll have played no game

988
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: half the games for the Browns.

989
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: And my hunch is, if your ownership you took your

990
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: stamp of approval on this, you're going to say, I'm

991
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: just going to find a coach to get this right.

992
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: And there isn't maybe a coach that exists to get

993
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: that right.

994
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: Who wants to do it too right.

995
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: Someone's gonna pay, and it's not gonna be him.

996
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Browns is the Browns.

997
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could sneak in the playoffs still and it

998
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: doesn't help you though, It doesn't help you. Yeah, they're

999
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: a really bad spot.

1000
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: Yep, that's going to do it for the show today.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lully. We also want

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Speaker 2: to thank Brian Lamartine for keeping the show on the

1003
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Speaker 2: air today and you know we're getting through me through

1004
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Speaker 2: my bye weeks. We want to thank you for listening

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Speaker 2: to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.

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