1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleven brio to Washington, 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg twelve hundred to San Francisco, 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine to the countries when he's at JAM General 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: one nineteen and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plusathen 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot com. This is taking Stock. I'm Kathleen Hayes 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: along with pim Fox. Janet Yellen speaks and says another 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: rate hike in the next few months appropriate we get 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: revised first quarter g D p PM. We've got a come, 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: got a triffic one to punch in this half hour 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: to look at all this stuff, what it means for 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: the economy, for the Fed and the markets. Yes, we'll 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: be speaking with Constance Hunter, chief economist at KPMG. Right now, 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: let's speak with Katherine Cowdery in the Bloomberg newsroom with 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business Flash. Thank you him and Bloomberg. Taking 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: Stock is brought to you by National Realty Returns on 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: cash and rented real estate. Find them at n r I, 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: a dot net. Well stocks never their earlier advanced. The 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: dollaris send it as gains and treasuries fell after FED 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Reserve Chair Janet Yellen said an interest rate increase in 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: the coming months may be appropriate. Echoing recently marks by policymakers. 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: Speaking at Harvard University, yell And stopped short of giving 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: an explicit hint that the FED would act next month. 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Julian emanuel Us Equity and Derivative Strategy to V says 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: it is time for the Fed to take action. The 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: data is supportive, the economy is getting better on virtually 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: all fronts. The GDP was revised higher this morning. Housing 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: has been very strong, the confidence numbers are good, the 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: retail sales are good, and it's it's time for investors 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: who actually, perversely are are still very cautious right now. Uh, 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: They're going to realize that we check the markets every 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: fifteen minute throughout the trading day. DAL Industrial Average is 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: up twenty three points an eighth of a percent is 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: trading at seventeen thousand, eight hundred fifty one. Smp F 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: I Funded up five points at quarter percent to two 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: thousand ninety five. Fanasta ACT is up twenty three points 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: half a percent, trading at four West Texas Intermediate Crude 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: oil down twenty one cents a barrow for tens of 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: a percent at seven s about, gold is down eleven 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: dollars ten cents a ounce at twelve eleven sixty, and 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: the tenure Treasury is down six thirty seconds with the 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: yield of one point eight five percent. Among today's top 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: business stories, Key corps four point one billion dollar bid 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: to buy First Niagara Financial is apparently facing some questions 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: concerning a federal investigation into First Niagara's minority lending practices. 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: Two people familiar with the matter say the Justice Department 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: began examining more than two years ago whether First Niagara 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: violated a federal lauthor prohibits discrimination in issuing loans. It's 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: two thirty two on Wall Street. Let's get enough date 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: if some of the other stories were following. On Bloomberg 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: Radio today, Katherine, thank you from the Bloomberg News Room. 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I'd Mark Crumpton, Egypt' chief investigator says this search for 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: the egypt airplane that crashed last week, killing all sixty 53 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: six people on board as narrowed to a three mile 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: wide area in the Mediterranean Sea that based on signals 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: from the plans emergency beacon. That information was from the 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: day of the crash. May nine, no new signals have 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: been received. President Obama made history today in Hiroshima, laying 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: a wreath at the site of the first to S 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: nuclear bomba attack. The President urged moral progress alongside scientific achievements, 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: mindset about war itself, to prevent conflicts through diplomas, and 61 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: strive to end conflicts after they've begun. Mr Obama is 62 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: the first sitting US president to visit Hiroshima. He didn't 63 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: apologize for the U S action, but said the memory 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: of the atomic bombing must never fade. Speaking at the 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: National Press Club today, CDC director Thomas Frieden said the 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: US now has its first case of a patient infected 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: with bacteria found to be resistant to all known antibiotics. 68 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: Medicine cabinet is empty for some patients. It is the 69 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: end of the route for antibiotics unless we act urgently. 70 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: City Bike says it topped to daily ridership record on Wednesday, 71 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: when more than fifty three thousand people took out bikes. 72 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: It also happened to be the warmest day in the 73 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: city since last fall. The previous record was fifty two thousand, 74 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: seven oh six set last September. 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Speaking at a panel discussion 84 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: at the Ratcliffe Institute for Advanced Study at Harvard University, 85 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: fed A Reserve Chair town At Yelling said that a 86 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: rate increase would be a p opriate probably in the 87 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: coming months, if the economy and labor market continue to strengthen. 88 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Let's find out more and get her thoughts on Chair 89 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Yellen's conversation. Want to introduce Constance Hunter, Chief Economist KPMG. 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: You can follow Constance Hunter on Twitter at Constance Hunter. Alright, 91 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: Constance Hunter, what do you make of Chair Yellen's conversation 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: and comments about the appropriate increase in interest rates probably 93 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: in the coming months. Yeah, Hi, pam Um Kathleen. He's 94 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: just just tweeted and asked me if I thought her 95 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: comments were hawkish, dovish, wonkish or impish, and uh, I'm 96 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: gonna go with dovish, because if she were hawkish, she 97 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: would be saying things like it's appropriate for the SAID 98 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: to raise now because it takes time for monetary policy 99 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: to work through the system. She'd be legitimizing a rate 100 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: hike um in in more concrete and um assertive lane 101 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: which and she's definitely in a wait and see mode. 102 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: But let me prepare you that there's a very good 103 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: chance we will raise, right, So she doesn't want to 104 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: be the markets to be surprised if the Said does 105 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: raise in June or July, and I think they probably will. 106 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: The thing that could hold them back is what's going 107 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: on in the UK with the vote for England to 108 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: remain or leave the European Union. Because should that vote 109 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: go for UH route leaving the European Union, and it 110 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: happens just the day after the meeting, um, so they, 111 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: depending on how the polling is, they may wait to 112 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: find out that result because it would cause havoc in 113 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: the market to New yor term. So let's take a look. 114 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: And I'm happy hear you say that, because we're kind 115 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: of joking the top of the show. I would have 116 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: lost money if I was a trader this afternoon because 117 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: I was listening to her, going gosh, she doesn't sound 118 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: talkished to me. She almost sounds stublish. So I'm happy 119 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: that you are an expert FED watcher, and that's how 120 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: you're taking it on it too. But there are people 121 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: who think that she was on the hawker side GDP 122 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: though zero. The talk is to the she talk is 123 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: compared to expectations, right, there's an expectation was that the 124 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: FED was on you know, hold for the whole year. 125 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: She's not hawk ish, but she's dove is compared to 126 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: four rate hikes as of September. She's dove is compared 127 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: to some of the other members of the f O 128 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: M c UM. But I don't think that means if 129 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: she raises in June July, there's a big good chance 130 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: they only have one rate hike this year. So the 131 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: GDP number, what do you have to say about that? 132 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: We know she's concerned about low productivity. She mentioned how 133 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: output has been unusually low in this recovery. But what 134 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: do you see constance as you pull apart all these 135 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: signals in that report and others. How how much are 136 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: you going to pick up in the second and third 137 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: quarters in the FED chair watching that? Yeah? Absolutely, so, 138 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: so let me go through. There's there's the there's this 139 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: sort of not such great components of GDP which is 140 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: exactly what you mentioned, and and that stems from corporate 141 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: investment which has been really weak. And if we looked through, 142 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's a bunch of different components of corporate investment, 143 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: so UM, there's investment in structures equipment UM, and and 144 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: that is where we see real weakness from the fall 145 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: in the in the oil price and the fall and 146 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: investment in the oil and gas sector. But there's another 147 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: section so that could be viewed as temporary, and it 148 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: certainly had a big drag on GDP UM in almost 149 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: seventy four bases points. So we had that not fallen 150 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: as much we were to see much younger growth last year. 151 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: But there's another component that is intellectual property products, so 152 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: software research and development UM, entertainment, literary and artistic UH 153 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: investment and those first two software research and development have 154 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: not been as strong as we would like to see, 155 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: and those are the things that help determine future productivity growth. 156 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: So she has reason to be concerned there. How some 157 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: wage increases, if there are any tell us about that 158 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: and how that figures into your thinking. So well, when 159 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: we think about um reaches and the relationship between inflation 160 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: and the relationship between growth, which is what the FED 161 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: is looking at, we need to look not just at 162 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: wrage wrage growth, but we need to add waste growth 163 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: to jobs growth to get total income games because that 164 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: is where the pressure comes through the economy and impacts inflation. 165 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: So when we look at those two things together, we 166 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: get about a four and a half percent increase year 167 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: over year, and that's what we were getting last year. 168 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: We're looking to continue to get that this year, and 169 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: that is enough, UH in my view, to support some 170 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: pressure on prices. Now, the most reclent PC gator released 171 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: this morning doesn't necessarily support that, and that's because goods 172 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: costs have gone way down in the last quarter UM. 173 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: But when you look at at the consumptument is happening, 174 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: we're seeing households in the last two quarters really shift 175 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: a lot of their consumption to services and that pressure 176 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: on services prices. We are services economy is I think 177 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: what's going to push the FED over the edge to 178 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: raving to raving rates sooner and that is the summer 179 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: juno July for the hike. Is that the only one 180 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: this year or will it be more September. I think 181 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: it's pretty likely that's the only one this year. One 182 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: of the things that Yellen has said consistently is if 183 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: we go sooner, we can go slower. If we wait 184 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: too long, we're going to have to go faster. And 185 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: I think, all things being equal, for preferences to go 186 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: sooner and slower, slower and sooner. Well, thanks very much, 187 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: Constance Hunter, Chief Economist, KPMG. Again, pm I feel a 188 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: little bit vindicated that I was not the only person 189 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: listen to Janet yelling. You thought, gee, she didn't Sunhawk. 190 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: I think maybe she sounded bevish. Well, but we are. 191 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna put this another very Another person who watches 192 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: all of this very closely will probably ask us about 193 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: every guest on this show today what they made a 194 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: Janet Yellen? And if you want to tweet to at 195 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: pim Fox, at caltheen underscore Hayes Feel Free. This is 196 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: Limberg Radio. This Hampton's Commuter Minute is brought to by Landrover. 197 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Visit your local Tri state area Landrover retailer for special 198 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: lease in finance offers Landrover above and beyond