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Speaker 1: and they're bunkers. Welcome to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansons. Come to
Speaker 1: you from a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Wesling, Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: Week to the Flagship Show, And you know what? I
Speaker 1: feel like it happens every year. There's always one week
Speaker 1: where it feels like the football gods were especially cruel
Speaker 1: and reminding of us of mankind's mortality and that we
Speaker 1: are fragile ultimately, no matter how how much the greatest
Speaker 1: of us builds up the body into a temple um
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, Salmon Thomas, Jimmy Garoppolo, Raheem Mostard. That was
Speaker 1: just one game that I covered today. S Kwon Barkley,
Speaker 1: Drew Lock, Paris Campbell, Malik Hooker, Christian McCaffrey, Anthony Barr.
Speaker 1: If I'm missing any, shout him out. But that is
Speaker 1: a lot of big time talent, and many of those
Speaker 1: injuries are of the serious nature. It sucks, but that's football. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we expected that going into this COVID year.
Speaker 1: Just like that, there was for whatever reason, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of injuries or a lot of like
Speaker 1: which team is you know, gonna actually keep have the
Speaker 1: roster that they expected to and then there was all
Speaker 1: those opt outs and then they're really it's been normal
Speaker 1: since then. I don't know if this has anything to
Speaker 1: do with the fact there's no training camp. Who knows um,
Speaker 1: but it was it was aggressive. I mean, seasons changed.
Speaker 1: I mean you're right, like the Falcons, for instance, last
Speaker 1: three starters today too, even like big time names that
Speaker 1: maybe you know it didn't make the headlines. It felt
Speaker 1: like every game there was three or four starters going out.
Speaker 1: I agree with Dan. I would point to the football gods.
Speaker 1: I think they were the ones that are behind this,
Speaker 1: along with you know a lot of other nuisance generating
Speaker 1: actions levers from the gods. But imagine a week ago,
Speaker 1: if this all happened a week one, the hot takes
Speaker 1: coming out about you know, shortened, no preseason, truncated training camps.
Speaker 1: Let's never do it again, Let's go back to the norm. Well,
Speaker 1: I if there's one good thing, it's you can't tie
Speaker 1: it directly to that at all. It's just freaky nature.
Speaker 1: A lot of great games though today a lot of
Speaker 1: great games. You enjoy the reasons. Yeah, one of the
Speaker 1: reasons we appreciate sports is because we all understand that
Speaker 1: ultimately our bodies are going to betray us. But for
Speaker 1: three hours you watch other humans game mastery over these bodies,
Speaker 1: and um, they lost that battle today. Why would the
Speaker 1: gods smite us? West? You're a man that you know things,
Speaker 1: philosophical type. Tell us why did they smite us? That's
Speaker 1: the deal we're given. You know, at birth, you don't
Speaker 1: have mastery over your body. It has mastery over you,
Speaker 1: and you answer to it, and we can we get
Speaker 1: to haudience. So they must remind us to not be
Speaker 1: so haughty. Thus the smiting. All right, Greg does point out,
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be lost, and it won't be lost
Speaker 1: because we're just about to go through every game from
Speaker 1: Sunday of week two that there was some fun football.
Speaker 1: It wasn't all about injuries and your fantasy team being ruined.
Speaker 1: Get off, get off your own high horse, get out
Speaker 1: of your own world. It's not just about your fantasy team.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, you at se Kwon Barkley man. Come on,
Speaker 1: that's a human being. Bro. I thought like ten or
Speaker 1: twelve years ago, we all kind of reached the point
Speaker 1: where we realized nobody else cared about our fantasy teams.
Speaker 1: But this year it came back with a vengeance. Like
Speaker 1: I have heard, I have had to hear about so
Speaker 1: many different people's fantasy teams, even though we all know
Speaker 1: nobody cares about it. I mean, how annoying as Eric
Speaker 1: had been. Just I just pop back in to tell
Speaker 1: you because Jets sitting on the couch right now and
Speaker 1: my speakers are on, and she's like, oh, Dan's just
Speaker 1: mad about fantasy because she's kicking your ass this weekend.
Speaker 1: So she just a mean to let you know, like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now you're mad, but you're losing
Speaker 1: pretty bad. Now. It's like, now let's not care. It's
Speaker 1: too it's cool to not care about our team. Well,
Speaker 1: you gotta find that happy that balance, you know. Don't
Speaker 1: get me started on our in house league. It's not
Speaker 1: being run with a steady hand. I'll just leave it
Speaker 1: at that. Um all right, So let's get into it.
Speaker 1: What's that? Who could see that come in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Let's get into it. A lot of
Speaker 1: good football to talk about, so let's dive right in
Speaker 1: and start with an excellent game that went down to
Speaker 1: the final second forty six for the win, no time outs.
Speaker 1: Good snapped good home forty six yards. Yes, sir kiss,
Speaker 1: start of pain, this getting bad and this comeback. Deserved
Speaker 1: to have a hundred thou people in this building. Brad
Speaker 1: Sham the sham God, and I think that was Babe
Speaker 1: Lautenberg reflecting on pandemic life. At the end, there uh,
Speaker 1: Greg's airline kicked a forty six yard field goals time
Speaker 1: expired in the Cowboys somehow overcome four fumbles a twenty
Speaker 1: point deficit in the first quarter. They beat the foul
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, topics forty thirty nine. Greg An
Speaker 1: absolutely wild finish as thrilling for the Cowboys as it
Speaker 1: was devastating for the Falcons and Arthur blank who was
Speaker 1: cut you know, cutting over to Arthur Blake on the
Speaker 1: sidelines again with two minutes of both what could possibly
Speaker 1: go wrong? Oh my gosh, this is one of the
Speaker 1: worst losses I've ever seen. I mean, I know the
Speaker 1: Falcons gave their fans the worst loss um that people
Speaker 1: have ever seen in terms of blowing the lead. It's
Speaker 1: not just that it's twenty to nothing or to ten
Speaker 1: or the fact that the Cowboys had to score three
Speaker 1: times to catch up from fifteen down with fifteen minutes left,
Speaker 1: because they missed the two point conversion where you really figured, uh,
Speaker 1: it was the end. It was the execution on this
Speaker 1: on side kick, and the Falcons did not approach the
Speaker 1: ball that you could see the mentally freezing thinking well,
Speaker 1: if it doesn't go ten yards, we don't need to
Speaker 1: touch it, and then nothing happens, and they just multiple
Speaker 1: guys freezing at the same moment. And the second they
Speaker 1: made that mistake and the Cowboys fall on it, you know, Greg,
Speaker 1: the leg is gonna capitalize because the Cowboys are going
Speaker 1: up and down the field. And that gets me to
Speaker 1: my larger point that you know what, Falcons, you didn't
Speaker 1: deserve to win this game anyways. This isn't like a
Speaker 1: game where hey, you're the better team. There's no rule
Speaker 1: you have to give up four touchdowns in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: The only reason they're ahead in this game is because
Speaker 1: they forced and recovered three fumbles in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: But at no point watching this game did I think, hey,
Speaker 1: the Falcons are a better team than the Cowboys. They
Speaker 1: looked very similar, which is exactly what I expected going
Speaker 1: into it. Two teams whose defenses have not showing up
Speaker 1: for the start of the season, and two teams who,
Speaker 1: despite Cowboys missing all their offensive linemen, had no problems
Speaker 1: passing the ball and moving the ball up and down
Speaker 1: the field. So they're very similar teams. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear how you're you're unlucky because your defense
Speaker 1: is so lousy, Like, it's not like they deserved a win.
Speaker 1: Especially there was this incredible number put out after the game,
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be that surprising that it's lopsided in
Speaker 1: one direction. But the Falcons had thirty nine points and
Speaker 1: zero turnovers, and entering today, since nineteen thirty three, teams
Speaker 1: are four hundred and forty and oh. When they have
Speaker 1: thirty nine points and zero turns, four hundred and forty
Speaker 1: and oh, that record now falls to four hundred and
Speaker 1: forty and one. Wow, only the Falcons. It's insane. Well
Speaker 1: that that's the thing. Like, if you watch this game
Speaker 1: as a Falcons, I know what they were thinking throughout
Speaker 1: it was they should have way more than thirty nine.
Speaker 1: I know, it's hard to put it on the offense.
Speaker 1: Mattie Ice has played as well as you can possibly
Speaker 1: play to B O and two. Calvin Ridley is making
Speaker 1: the leap. I mean he is a true number one receiver.
Speaker 1: They they at one point scored sixth Street positions. Then again,
Speaker 1: they picked up those fumbles in the first quarter in
Speaker 1: field goal range and didn't get touchdowns. Julio Jones had
Speaker 1: a ball hit him right in the hands that would
Speaker 1: have been a fifty yard touchdown, one of the best
Speaker 1: passes of the day, and it was from Falcon's wide
Speaker 1: receiver Russell Gauge on a trick play that Jones dropped.
Speaker 1: They never got those points. That was actually the only
Speaker 1: punt they wound up having. Uh in the second half,
Speaker 1: there was a bad call of twelve min on the
Speaker 1: field that presented them from even going for a fourth down,
Speaker 1: so it felt like they could have had even more.
Speaker 1: But I still go back to Dan Quinn as a
Speaker 1: defensive coach whose defense just can't get any stops. So
Speaker 1: it's like, how much can you complain. Maybe they didn't
Speaker 1: cash in the way they could have early on, Maybe
Speaker 1: Julio Jones should make that catch, which you definitely should have,
Speaker 1: but they still put up thirty nine points. Take that
Speaker 1: game home. My goodness, that is absolutely terrible. And yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the one hundred I don't know. I thought
Speaker 1: last year was the one hundredth anniversary of football, but
Speaker 1: maybe next year is I have no idea. But this
Speaker 1: is also a historic game. The first time in NFL
Speaker 1: history that quarterback passed for over four hundred yards and
Speaker 1: ran for three touchdowns, which is what Dak Prescott did
Speaker 1: and West. It looked like when you're watching this game
Speaker 1: for most of it that it was just gonna be
Speaker 1: one of speaking of fantasy, a hollow monster fantasy game,
Speaker 1: but that all came back to be very important, just
Speaker 1: continuing to put points up on the board. Yeah, credit
Speaker 1: Bones Fossil. They hire him to be special teams coordinator
Speaker 1: and he lures Gregg the legs are line over. That
Speaker 1: was one of the best on side kicks ever seen,
Speaker 1: the way he had put the English on that ball
Speaker 1: and had a spinning and then the Cowboys got out
Speaker 1: in that little Turkey buzzard prayer circle to psych out
Speaker 1: the Falcons and and you're not even allowed to touch
Speaker 1: the ball before ten yards. And I'm convinced that that
Speaker 1: was a role around and watched the ball. I was
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that. How Bo owns, who's one
Speaker 1: of the best coordinators in the game. He got out
Speaker 1: of l A came to Dallas. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe you guys know who the special team
Speaker 1: coordinators of the Falcons is. But either those guys didn't
Speaker 1: execute in the moment or they were not they were
Speaker 1: not properly coached. That's crushing. I was just I was
Speaker 1: just rampaging on Thursday nights, the Thursday Night Football Recap
Speaker 1: about on side kicks and how ineffective they are. They
Speaker 1: still are, by the way, but that's how you gotta
Speaker 1: do it. It It has to be a perfectly placed kick
Speaker 1: and then you need something zany to happen, which is
Speaker 1: how that played out. I mean, what a what a
Speaker 1: wild finish. Don't you feel like we're like we're I
Speaker 1: mean one or two plays away from a full helping,
Speaker 1: a week's full helping of Mike McCarthy hawk takes had
Speaker 1: the Cowboys lost this. I mean, it's just interesting. How
Speaker 1: think you might have been involved with a few of them, Sessler,
Speaker 1: if if they didn't allow this game out. I I
Speaker 1: don't actually I think I think it might like Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy's lower on my radar than than on some. I mean,
Speaker 1: the early season is whacky. You come out of this
Speaker 1: one and one. Um, you know, the Rams game I
Speaker 1: don't put on. I don't have a big problem with that.
Speaker 1: I don't love the play calling in the Rams game
Speaker 1: at the end for Mike McCarthy, But I mean he
Speaker 1: just avoided all the heat that is landing on dan
Speaker 1: Quinn right exactly. Dan Quinn's gonna get it now. That's why,
Speaker 1: first of all, I always think people when they get
Speaker 1: on guys for racking up in garbage time, I usually
Speaker 1: don't buy that it's actually garbage time because it is
Speaker 1: always possible in this offensive league, especially this season where
Speaker 1: they're not really any penalties. They kept putting pressure on
Speaker 1: the Falcons to keep responding, and for the most part
Speaker 1: they did. Um. Dak Prescott does deserve credit because and
Speaker 1: so does Kellen Moore into a degree, Mike McCarthy, because
Speaker 1: he's an offensive coach. Because they didn't have three of
Speaker 1: their offensive lineman Tyrann Smith was out, they adjusted their
Speaker 1: game plan. They they threw shorter passes. It was some rollouts. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you had dak Um running obviously near the
Speaker 1: goal line. Zeke looked really good against Ceedee Lamb made
Speaker 1: plays late and so I think they did a good
Speaker 1: job adjusting. They just didn't hold onto the ball in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. Otherwise you know they would have up
Speaker 1: forty five or fifty. And for the Falcons, you know,
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's in trouble and this is brutal, and they
Speaker 1: lost their right tackle Caleb McGarry looked fairly serious and
Speaker 1: they lost tack McKinley early in this game. Kanu Alan
Speaker 1: Ricardo Allen rather was in and out. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if you even finished. So they cannot get stops right now,
Speaker 1: and both of these teams can't. I'm amazed how bad
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defensive line has looked through two weeks. I mean,
Speaker 1: they were a disaster today to all their pass rushers. Really,
Speaker 1: it might be time on Tuesday show to roll out
Speaker 1: the version of the hot Butt rankings to see where
Speaker 1: some of these coaches are after a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: That's of conversation to take offline. For now, we move
Speaker 1: on to another game. Oh what a lock for the
Speaker 1: Zoo sir Uls. Until my mention started popping off about it,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean sometimes the football gods. They're smiting
Speaker 1: some and kissing others. And I got one right on
Speaker 1: the forehead from the football gods in that lock so too,
Speaker 1: and oh all right, and get too comfortable with the
Speaker 1: football godstand. They seem to think about you in various ways,
Speaker 1: not all later in the show. I take my I
Speaker 1: take my forehead kisses from the football gods where I
Speaker 1: could get them, all right. Here's another game that ended
Speaker 1: on the last play, a fifty eight yard attempt. He's
Speaker 1: had plenty of a leg on the first two attempts.
Speaker 1: Fucker's kick us up. He lines it up, that kickers
Speaker 1: long enough. It is good. Harrison Budker money money, money
Speaker 1: penalty trying to freeze him. He falls the Chargers with
Speaker 1: a twenty three and twenty walk off fifty yard field goal,
Speaker 1: tying a Chiefs record, his own record then he tied
Speaker 1: earlier in the game at two minutes to go. In
Speaker 1: the overtime, the Chiefs go to two and oh and
Speaker 1: continue their dominance over the A. S. C. West. Oh Yeah,
Speaker 1: open bar and the Kicker Club. Tonight for Harrison, Butker
Speaker 1: in his entire entourage. He drilled the fifty three yarder
Speaker 1: loan dead due to a false start backed up hit
Speaker 1: a fifty eight yard blown dead after Anthony Lynne attempt
Speaker 1: at ice out nice try Tony, but Harry Butcker would
Speaker 1: not be denied. His third attempt also split the uprights
Speaker 1: from fifty eight, this time accounted, and the Chiefs escaped
Speaker 1: Anglewood with a win over the Chargers. Fun game. Remember
Speaker 1: I gave that pep talk to the Kickers closed door meeting.
Speaker 1: I mean, Bucker did. Bucker didn't need it. Bucker's you
Speaker 1: know it wasn't for Justin Tucker. Bucker would be the
Speaker 1: best kicker in the league right now. But West. You
Speaker 1: know how it is with sports teams, like the manager
Speaker 1: of the coach, he gives the speech and then he
Speaker 1: needs his leaders to step up and kind of make
Speaker 1: that message really land. That's what Harry Bucker did for me.
Speaker 1: Um anyway, that's why he is. It was a fun game.
Speaker 1: Included a Beyonce like surprise album drop of the Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert era Greg that defense for the Chargers spot it's
Speaker 1: but ger Off. Yeah, I mean this this was a classic.
Speaker 1: Maybe I was m jazzed up about this day because
Speaker 1: I got three classics. I realized what a job I
Speaker 1: did on draft day. M Herbert comes out there for
Speaker 1: the first snap. It's very mysterious. Tyrod Taylor's on the bench.
Speaker 1: We find out now Tyrod Taylor as we are taping. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Sunday afternoon in Los Angeles, Tyrod Taylor's in
Speaker 1: the hospital. So it was a legitimate injury. He had
Speaker 1: a chest injury through the week that apparently he made worse. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he was on the injury report that he
Speaker 1: made worse during pregame warmups. He was clearly in some
Speaker 1: pain on the sidelines. And Herbert comes in there and
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna come out of there to me,
Speaker 1: even though. And we'll get to what the Chiefs did
Speaker 1: and all the details of this game, but to me,
Speaker 1: the takeaway was this Chargers team is frisky. I really
Speaker 1: like what we're seeing out of their defense. They played
Speaker 1: an outstanding game today. Uh, they deserve to win, and
Speaker 1: Herbert showed a lot. Was fun to watch. Their backfield
Speaker 1: of Eckler and Josh Joshua Kelly is awesome. I mean Kelly.
Speaker 1: I wish we had mentioned him last week because he
Speaker 1: played so well last week too, and he did it again.
Speaker 1: They racked up I think over two hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: yards between them today and they lost this game. And
Speaker 1: I know you were not supposed to give out lollipops,
Speaker 1: and there's some things you can fought with Anthony Lynne
Speaker 1: at the end, but I'm gonna go ahead and give
Speaker 1: them a lollipop. They It took some highlight level god
Speaker 1: level plays from Patrick Mahomes for the Chiefs to win
Speaker 1: this game. One lollipop for all of them to lick
Speaker 1: with their tongues. I mean, I here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I would say, right, it's a rough it's a rough loss.
Speaker 1: And I'm not ever a huge fan of a team
Speaker 1: like the Chargers handing the ball back to someone like
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in overtime. Um, there weren't a lot of
Speaker 1: other options there, But I don't know, maybe you're kind
Speaker 1: of sealing your fate at that point. Well there was
Speaker 1: one run the ball and see you've been running a
Speaker 1: great all game. I would just say, anyone would say,
Speaker 1: we get why Anthony lynn did that. If they for
Speaker 1: if they didn't convert, you'd get why you'd why you
Speaker 1: did it, And now you just you don't even try.
Speaker 1: I but I I don't know if you guys were
Speaker 1: with you. I was just really down on Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: coming out of hard Knocks for no other reason than
Speaker 1: it was sort of the overall Justin Herbert experience seemed
Speaker 1: a little mousey, a little bit in the distance, not
Speaker 1: really an alpha male type guy. He did, I mean not,
Speaker 1: and not every rookie quarterback gives it off to such
Speaker 1: a degree. But I mean to watch him play today.
Speaker 1: Um My issue with Tyrod Taylor, and I wish him
Speaker 1: the best, we all do, but is that you think
Speaker 1: he's a very limiting quarterback and he limits what you
Speaker 1: can do. And like I just was very suspicious of
Speaker 1: the whole Chargers operation. This whole let's win games twelve
Speaker 1: to ten. That's cool in thirty something years ago. But
Speaker 1: now with Justin Herbert, if he this is a template
Speaker 1: of what he can provide. Wow, I mean they have
Speaker 1: somehow backed into an interesting young quarterback who changes the
Speaker 1: course of their season the same way the last couple
Speaker 1: of times Tyrod Taylor went out and was replaced by
Speaker 1: a young, high pedigree upstart. Yeah, if he wasn't passing
Speaker 1: so well, I'm not sure even makes the mistake of
Speaker 1: the game when he clearly had the easy first down
Speaker 1: running um and decided to throw late across the middle
Speaker 1: against the grain um and it was intercepted, and Tony
Speaker 1: Rohno pointed, pointed out, those are mistakes you have to make,
Speaker 1: so you learned never to do them again. Um. But
Speaker 1: but without that play, it was legitimately one of the
Speaker 1: most impressive starting debuts I remember, I mean it was
Speaker 1: it was he changes the nature of that offense. And
Speaker 1: you pointed out Joshua Kelly. Greg I thought they didn't
Speaker 1: win last week's game without Joshua Kelly, but he gave
Speaker 1: them their offense in the fourth quarter. And Romo said,
Speaker 1: at some point in this game, Eckler and Joshua Kelly
Speaker 1: are one of the best backfields in the NFL already, right.
Speaker 1: Romo's um praise of Herbert Um I think helped cement
Speaker 1: it for me. You know just how many next level
Speaker 1: plays he was making in terms of like looking off
Speaker 1: the cornerback on his touchdown throw and then just throwing
Speaker 1: a dark look. He that was that interception changed the game.
Speaker 1: He also missed a couple of rows on on third
Speaker 1: down that that he would like to have back, that
Speaker 1: we're pretty makeable throws. So it wasn't perfect, um, but
Speaker 1: he's just a better version of Tyrode. That was the
Speaker 1: thing where I thought Romo was a little off base,
Speaker 1: you know, wondering how much they gotta change the offense
Speaker 1: so they have the old River stuff. It's like nor Herbert,
Speaker 1: if anything, is a taller version of a very athletic
Speaker 1: quarterback that you know might miss some gimmes here and
Speaker 1: there that was known to be a little too safe
Speaker 1: here and there certainly wasn't in this game. Um, but
Speaker 1: on some level that him and Tyrod made sense as
Speaker 1: a pair, and you're he's just gonna start the rest
Speaker 1: of the season barring an injury. Now they're just I
Speaker 1: just can't imagine they go back to Tyrode well. And
Speaker 1: also I mean quickly, like the debut didn't come after
Speaker 1: a full week of practice, Um taking starting reps, finds
Speaker 1: out minutes before kickoff that he's jumping into this against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I like these surprise album drops for a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Obviously I don't like the circumstances behind it, but more
Speaker 1: more teams should do it because the quarterback who's has
Speaker 1: very little will experience no experience. In the case of
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. You know, he doesn't have to deal with
Speaker 1: answering questions all week and dwelling on the media focusing
Speaker 1: on him. Then bang, he's out on the field. In fact,
Speaker 1: do we have that riggy? How this is so unusual
Speaker 1: for it to be a situation where they thought he
Speaker 1: they thought Tyrod Taylor was playing right up to the right,
Speaker 1: up to the coin flip um And then even the
Speaker 1: play by play guys, the great Matt money Smith and
Speaker 1: uh move the sticks were surprised to be looking down
Speaker 1: on a field that did not have the starting quarterback
Speaker 1: that they anticipated. Let's listen to that. And how about this?
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is out to take the first snap in
Speaker 1: a pistol formation, fakes the handoff. Actually no, he does,
Speaker 1: in fact hand it off to Austin Eckler, who pushes
Speaker 1: past all the way up near the thirty. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be a gain of nine. He's staying out there, Herbert
Speaker 1: starting this game. No inclination that that was gonna be
Speaker 1: the case at all. We talked to Tom to LESCo,
Speaker 1: we talked to Anthony Lynn and what a secret. As
Speaker 1: just sin Herbert makes his NFL debut with a hand
Speaker 1: off to Austin Ekeler. That goes for nine now under center,
Speaker 1: the number six overall pick very odd and I just
Speaker 1: I know you handed out the lollipop a ready and
Speaker 1: everybody's looking at it's filled with saliva of many mentions.
Speaker 1: But come on, Anthony Lynn. We talked about this last week.
Speaker 1: One thing that holds him back as a coach is
Speaker 1: how conservative he can be. You cannot punt that ball
Speaker 1: back in overtime. I don't care. If you're on your
Speaker 1: own thirty four yard line. You need one yard. The
Speaker 1: offense has had a pretty solid day all things considered,
Speaker 1: very solid, almost five yards right, and if you and
Speaker 1: if you pump the ball away, all Patrick Mahomes needs
Speaker 1: to do with the second best kicker in the league,
Speaker 1: by the way, Justin Tucker, still the best is getting
Speaker 1: to field goal range. You can't do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Anthony Lynn really really let down his team
Speaker 1: today with that decision. I agree, but I do want
Speaker 1: to point out he went for fourth down twice in
Speaker 1: the first half, which I thought was you know, it
Speaker 1: was on the other side of the field, but I
Speaker 1: thought that was a good sign. It was it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't right now, I get it, but it
Speaker 1: was on this you gotta have a feel of your
Speaker 1: team and and the way they were running the ball.
Speaker 1: I thought, there's so many different plays you could do there,
Speaker 1: whether it's throwing it to your running back or actually
Speaker 1: running the ball. You're right, you gotta keep it away
Speaker 1: from him. In his defense, I think he had so much.
Speaker 1: He had a lot of faith in his defense. And
Speaker 1: you saw it. You saw that they only got to
Speaker 1: kick the fifty yarder. You saw that the Chiefs were
Speaker 1: in tough third down situations when the when Mahomes got
Speaker 1: the ball with two minutes left, everyone including me said, Okay,
Speaker 1: Mahome's gonna go score a touchdown. But you know what,
Speaker 1: he didn't. They punted five of their first six possessions. Uh,
Speaker 1: the charges really dominated the game. It really took Mahomes
Speaker 1: throw to Tyreek Hill, which is one of the best
Speaker 1: throws you ever see, and again an unbelievable catch too
Speaker 1: by Hill, followed up by one of the best two
Speaker 1: point conversion throws that just looked absolutely in human you'll
Speaker 1: ever see. So that's sort of what it took. And
Speaker 1: on on the rest of the drives of the game,
Speaker 1: they either punted, were kicked field goals or the one
Speaker 1: really clean drive they had was kind of like last
Speaker 1: week where they had to go fifteen plays and everything.
Speaker 1: So man, they made the Chief's work and it was
Speaker 1: still a terrible decision by Lynn. I criticized that at
Speaker 1: the time, but I do at least understand the faith
Speaker 1: he had because his defense was playing. So can I
Speaker 1: can I just say one little beef that I have
Speaker 1: And it's not the Chief's fault at all, and it's
Speaker 1: certainly not Patrick mahomes fault. But um, you know, Twitter
Speaker 1: middle school is really struggling when Patrick Mahomes does the
Speaker 1: new greatest thing he's ever done. Uh, no one knows
Speaker 1: how to describe what he does in words in any
Speaker 1: interesting way. It's just simply Mahomes is just so amazing,
Speaker 1: Like thank you, thank you sports Twitter so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's a little hard on Sunday, but I just like,
Speaker 1: you know, people struggling to describe the physical feats to
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is um troubling to me. I'm sorry, Mark,
Speaker 1: sorry that you have to deal with that. It's that
Speaker 1: hard on Sunday. It's the perfect day. That's the day
Speaker 1: I said that the tweets I don't read anything. Alright,
Speaker 1: Let's let's keep on moving. Let's talk about another superpower
Speaker 1: of the a f C fort Lamar Jackson splits out
Speaker 1: why to the left, It'll be a direct snap to
Speaker 1: mark Ingram running off left tackle. He's got a huge hole.
Speaker 1: Twenty ten five touchdown or Ravens. What a play call
Speaker 1: by Greg Roman. He went direct snap to mark Ingram.
Speaker 1: Splitt Lamar Jackson out wide to the left. They needed
Speaker 1: a yard they got twenty one of them at a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Are you paying attention the Adam Cases of the world.
Speaker 1: That's how you have to run an offense. You gotta
Speaker 1: keep teams off balance, you gotta give them different looks.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep everybody on their toes. Mark England takes
Speaker 1: a direct snap on fourth and one and then takes
Speaker 1: it to the house, and it was the dagger for
Speaker 1: the Ravens who post with thirty three sixteen win over
Speaker 1: the Texas in Houston. These just feel like two teams
Speaker 1: on different levels and as cruel as the NFL was
Speaker 1: to be Houston Texans for giving them at the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in the kickoff game and then the Ravens in a
Speaker 1: week two well, at the same time Bill O'Brien's team
Speaker 1: has to show up, and this they have not come
Speaker 1: ready to play. Deshaun Watson again feels like he's he's
Speaker 1: got the world on his shoulders, and you could see
Speaker 1: that strain that nothing is coming fretting easy in this offense.
Speaker 1: Remember the whole will Fuller thing. Will Fuller will become
Speaker 1: the number one guy. Maybe he is, but today he
Speaker 1: was shut out. He had let's see, did you ever
Speaker 1: have a catch? No, he never had a catch. He
Speaker 1: wasn't even targeted. In fact, he had one carry for
Speaker 1: zero yards. Thanks for playing will Fuller. Uh So, the
Speaker 1: Texans offense is trying to figure out itself at average
Speaker 1: three yards to carry, and the Ravens they've just picked
Speaker 1: up where they left off. I mean, the January playoff
Speaker 1: exit was ugly, but through two regular season games we
Speaker 1: are now coming on. If you combine these two regular
Speaker 1: season games with how they finished and really performed the
Speaker 1: entire regular season last year, this is one of the
Speaker 1: great dominant runs September through December that I can remember
Speaker 1: any team having no argument there. I I saw some
Speaker 1: something today that it's like, Wow, the Ravens have gone
Speaker 1: taken what they did last year and they've gone another
Speaker 1: three steps. It's like, all right, let's slow down. That's
Speaker 1: one of the greatest regular season teams I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Like you're not going three steps further, but continuing it
Speaker 1: and adding new elements to it and playing a little
Speaker 1: more consistent defense from week one on, which they were
Speaker 1: not last year. Um, is gonna make them so hard
Speaker 1: to be And they play the Chiefs next week a
Speaker 1: little too early in the season for my taste, but
Speaker 1: it should be fun. I mean, I think the one
Speaker 1: issue was Lamar Jackson, Like if they were if you
Speaker 1: wanted to point to little elements of his game they
Speaker 1: needed help. He shored them up. I mean, he's gotten
Speaker 1: distinctively better over two off seasons. And um, you know,
Speaker 1: I around halftime and I was kind of tracking this
Speaker 1: one off on the side, I was thinking looking at
Speaker 1: their box score, thinking they're not really running, Like it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like they're dominating. They didn't have like a
Speaker 1: hundred yards hundred and fifty yards rushing in the first half.
Speaker 1: It was like a little bit off. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the game they have two and thirty plus
Speaker 1: yards on the ground. I mean, they really right, they
Speaker 1: can do everything they did a year ago. They just
Speaker 1: you throw in JK. Dobbins, you throw in a couple
Speaker 1: of other guys. It's like they simply have more weapons.
Speaker 1: So I think last year's last week's game against Cleveland
Speaker 1: was absolutely authentic. Today's game is absolutely authentic. This is
Speaker 1: who they are. Uh, there's probably one or two teams
Speaker 1: in the league that could touch him right now. They're
Speaker 1: so good that that they psych out other teams. They
Speaker 1: psyched out Bill O'Brien early in the game. He went
Speaker 1: for fourth and one on his own thirty four yard line,
Speaker 1: And I just don't think Bill O'Brien does that against
Speaker 1: other teams, maybe the Chiefs. And it's been a tough
Speaker 1: measuring stick for the Houston Texans these first two weeks,
Speaker 1: when you have traded your way into going all in
Speaker 1: and you find out you're not nearly good enough. They're
Speaker 1: definitely right now they seem a step below. But it
Speaker 1: is interesting when this it is one of the toughest
Speaker 1: starts to a season any team could have. And I
Speaker 1: still have some faith in that that building, that end,
Speaker 1: with that quarterback and with the coaches achieved there in
Speaker 1: terms of fielding winning teams that they'll get back on
Speaker 1: the horse, as it were, and they'll be competitive and
Speaker 1: they'll be in the mix. But right now they're just
Speaker 1: I think even if they had a more favorable schedule,
Speaker 1: we'd be talking about right now that the Texans don't
Speaker 1: have their stuff figured out. They just seemed to be
Speaker 1: a step behind right now. I think you're right, And
Speaker 1: the problem is, like they and we've seen what was
Speaker 1: was it two seasons ago where the Texans won like
Speaker 1: seven or eight straight to go into the playoffs and
Speaker 1: they became a different team, and so maybe there's that
Speaker 1: ahead for them. But this schedule is what would be
Speaker 1: at the end of your season two if you want
Speaker 1: to be one of these playoff teams, and I'm just
Speaker 1: not They're just not there with with the higher upper
Speaker 1: echelon an FC teams, And I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: six game winning street coming because teams like the Titans
Speaker 1: and Colts in their division are so much better than
Speaker 1: they were a couple of years ago. Yeah, the Ravens too.
Speaker 1: It sounds like they lost Tavon Young, who is a
Speaker 1: harder for them potentially for the season at torn A
Speaker 1: c L feel bad for me missed. I think a
Speaker 1: year and a half with a neck injury only to
Speaker 1: come back and and tear your a c L. But J. K.
Speaker 1: Dobbins is the first thing you think of of like
Speaker 1: them adding elements on on offense, but on defense man
Speaker 1: class Campbell seems to be making a big time difference.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like that that really makes a difference
Speaker 1: for them. And at least Dan, you know, you watch
Speaker 1: this closely, it looks like J the old J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt is back. If there's a if there's a positive
Speaker 1: for the Texans, maybe that's it. Yep, he had a
Speaker 1: couple of secks today and he's healthy and still looks
Speaker 1: like that guy. Um, so that's a positive. But they
Speaker 1: just they need more and that yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: Fuller and credit goes to Marcus Peters, who's you know,
Speaker 1: obviously very good. But will Fuller getting shut out and
Speaker 1: not even target and just disappearing that that's putting Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson in an impossible situation, Like I don't know what,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do in that situation, like
Speaker 1: if you need him to become that guy. And at
Speaker 1: least in week one he kind of picked up stats
Speaker 1: and garbage time. Week two he doesn't exist. Luckily, Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb at least showed up in this game, and they
Speaker 1: got some other places. But this this offense has a
Speaker 1: lot of work to do. And then you get to
Speaker 1: go to Pittsburgh next week. You thought the schedule makers
Speaker 1: were rough. They get the three best NFC teams right
Speaker 1: off the bat. That's a I mean those that's to me,
Speaker 1: those are the three superpowers of the a f C
Speaker 1: to me right now, with all due respect to the
Speaker 1: people up in western New York, you can make a
Speaker 1: case that that's another big time team up there, but
Speaker 1: that who that. I don't know if I can remember
Speaker 1: another team that had it that tough out of the
Speaker 1: gate um. All right, speaking of superpowers, Roethlisberger back looks
Speaker 1: out to his left, lost one along the sideline going
Speaker 1: for Chase Claypool, who catches it and strike Claypool stays abound,
Speaker 1: crosses the fifty and the ten. The rookie Chase Claypool,
Speaker 1: in for his first NFL touched out eighty four yards.
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger to Claypool, while Ben through that long and Chase
Speaker 1: Claypool ran under it. And that's that's what Chase Claypool does.
Speaker 1: We're already two years, two games into his career at
Speaker 1: the That's what Chase Claypool does. That was Rob King
Speaker 1: of w d V and tounch Ilkin. The Steelers are
Speaker 1: looking good through two weeks. Big Ben hit Chase Claypool
Speaker 1: for that long score and the Pittsburgh defense held off
Speaker 1: a stubborn Broncos attack led by backup Jeff driscoll. One
Speaker 1: the final West James Connor had a big day as well.
Speaker 1: It seems like Pittsburgh has playmakers coming out of their
Speaker 1: ears right now. Well, that James Conner numbers are skewed
Speaker 1: because he got loose for a very rumbling, slow fifty
Speaker 1: yard run um right at the end of the aime.
Speaker 1: So it's not like he was hammering out five six
Speaker 1: yards at a time throughout the game. Um. But the
Speaker 1: clay Pole, uh, the adding him to that offense and
Speaker 1: then Deonte Johnson kind of making the leap to as
Speaker 1: a run after catch guy. You watch his team play
Speaker 1: and they've had some stops and starts, they've had some fits,
Speaker 1: and maybe they could have run away with this game.
Speaker 1: Um but but I look at this team and they've
Speaker 1: got dimensions that you didn't think they had with with Claypool.
Speaker 1: I thought about my oncologist after that touchdown. He is
Speaker 1: a die hard, obsessive Steelers fans, and you know the
Speaker 1: type that they're not casual in their fandom. Um, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna be I'm gonna see him on Tuesday. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be talking Super Bowl because you know, with all
Speaker 1: due respect to the Ravens and Chiefs, this Steelers team
Speaker 1: had the number one defense in the NFL in my
Speaker 1: book last year. They look even better this year. Everything
Speaker 1: you could have possibly envisioned for t. J. Watton, Bud
Speaker 1: Dupri when you drafted them. They played to that level
Speaker 1: last year and and riaking more havoc this year. I
Speaker 1: think Watt had two and a half sacks today. Dupri.
Speaker 1: His pressure led Lock into Dupri and that's what caused
Speaker 1: the fumbo and the injury. They sent Drew Lock out
Speaker 1: of the game. That injury. I mean, it's they say
Speaker 1: two to six weeks at this point, uh sprain d
Speaker 1: C A C joint. I just I don't know. For me,
Speaker 1: I was really excited about I need, like other teams
Speaker 1: to rise up and capture my fancy during the course
Speaker 1: of a year and the Broncos became one of those
Speaker 1: teams on Monday Night, and um, it's a whole lot
Speaker 1: of different with Jeff Driskell under center. I feel like
Speaker 1: my excitement will be shelled for a month or so.
Speaker 1: Although I mean you said about that, you said you're
Speaker 1: on collegis will be all excited. How excited should he
Speaker 1: be about a five point went over Driskell? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the stats look pretty decent for dristcll
Speaker 1: in this game. Well, DRIs school is what he is.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give. He's gonna make his defensive job really
Speaker 1: hard because he moves the sticks inconsistently and he he
Speaker 1: forces a lot of mistakes while doing that. He's just
Speaker 1: not a very good passer. Into his credit, he did
Speaker 1: move the sticks a little bit today. Um, if I'm
Speaker 1: a Steelers fan, I'm excited because the Broncos have pride
Speaker 1: and they're not untalented. Credit to them for losing their
Speaker 1: starting quarterback and still coming at the Steelers. But for me,
Speaker 1: when I look at the Steelers as a fan, I
Speaker 1: would think we've got everything we expected to have with
Speaker 1: this team, and even more. We've answered questions about Ben's arm.
Speaker 1: We've answered questions with the receiving corps. We've answered questions
Speaker 1: with the offensive line and our defenses lights out seven
Speaker 1: more sacks. Today they come at quarterbacks like it's the
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Your first job is to survive four quarters
Speaker 1: and stay in the game. John Elway, though, your boy, Dan,
Speaker 1: I mean we this isn't second guessing. We killed It
Speaker 1: was like the thing I would. I feel like we've
Speaker 1: talked about more in then on our podcast this offseason
Speaker 1: than anything else. Why is John Elways so raid to
Speaker 1: sign a backup quarterback? Like what in a c in
Speaker 1: a year when backup quarterbacks are all over the place.
Speaker 1: You know, Andy Dalton's outside of Walmart. You know, I
Speaker 1: was enough signs looking for jobs. Jamis Winston, you know
Speaker 1: there's a there's a million and in La really said
Speaker 1: like he didn't want to threaten. I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: just what it was. He he kind of staked his
Speaker 1: claim that Drew Locks is guy, and he didn't want
Speaker 1: Cam Newton in that building. He didn't want Jamis Wintson's
Speaker 1: somebody that would potentially undermine locks confidence or cause internal
Speaker 1: questioning over who the guy really is. And he got
Speaker 1: what he wanted because there is no question coming out
Speaker 1: of training camp that Drew Lock was their quarterback. But yeah,
Speaker 1: when you fly with when you're on the trap, he's
Speaker 1: without a safety net. D Jeff Driscoll sometimes happened, so
Speaker 1: good luck with that could be a season breaker for them.
Speaker 1: If he's out a month, month and a half, they're
Speaker 1: already owed two. Right, it might be too late by
Speaker 1: the time. We don't even know not to be labor
Speaker 1: this point, wouldn't even know if Drew Lock can really play,
Speaker 1: and he might come back in a situation where they
Speaker 1: have to win, you know, seven of eight games to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Depending on how this goes over the
Speaker 1: next few years. It's it's a bad situation that could
Speaker 1: have potentially been avoided, if I agree. I think we
Speaker 1: tend to think of when quarterback injuries happen, Hey he's
Speaker 1: out for the year, and you have no chance anyway
Speaker 1: they were in on offense. But sometimes it's just two
Speaker 1: to three weeks and if you can get by and
Speaker 1: stay in the race, you need a backup good enough
Speaker 1: to do that. And I question whether Driscoll was good
Speaker 1: enough to do that well in a year ago. We're
Speaker 1: coming off you know, Vic Fongio saying that Drew Lock
Speaker 1: isn't even prepared to play in the NFL last summer,
Speaker 1: so it's like things happen fast, and if you just
Speaker 1: go in with one quarterback, I think that you know,
Speaker 1: the Bears that had a little bit of some of
Speaker 1: that action to where it's like we're we're protecting our
Speaker 1: starter to such degree, and that's fine, except your starter
Speaker 1: is not in eighth grade running a middle school Pop
Speaker 1: Warner team with a fragile psychology. If he is, he
Speaker 1: shouldn't be an NFL starter to begin with. Bringing the
Speaker 1: best possible backup. Isn't the whole Drew Lock experience partly like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's got so much confidence, he's got great flow, and
Speaker 1: he's rapping on the side lines and he's got moxie. Well,
Speaker 1: then if he doesn't sound like he's a flower, right,
Speaker 1: But also that also just isn't Truelock's fault. That's John
Speaker 1: Elway's issue, which I think we agree on. It's not
Speaker 1: Drew Lock's fault that he sprained his A C joint either.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he has been promising, so I
Speaker 1: think the evaluation is fair Undrew Lock. But the environment
Speaker 1: is what's questionable. Okay, By the way, West you mentioned
Speaker 1: use the term move the sticks a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I like that as a football term. If you like that,
Speaker 1: like a good name for a podcast. Anyway, let's move
Speaker 1: on adopt that as an online persona just the thought.
Speaker 1: Makes a handoff to unclaimed deep, takes a long look downfield,
Speaker 1: going deep again. He's got a man right up with.
Speaker 1: John Brownie makes a catch, touchdown, touchdown Buffalo. John frown
Speaker 1: from Josh Allen touchdown Bills with three on nine to go,
Speaker 1: They're up by Tanna forty six yard touchdown pass. What
Speaker 1: a play dagger? What is this? Twenties swingers? Where's the flappers?
Speaker 1: At Ricky w with the call? John Murphy, Steve Tasker.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen threw for four hundred seventeen yards Rosie, four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Rosie both career highs, and the Bills wiped out a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter depsit, knocking off the Dolphins mark. There was
Speaker 1: endless talk about Josh Allen in the need for him
Speaker 1: to take the next step in his third season. I
Speaker 1: imagine just based on this box score and where they're
Speaker 1: at right now, that Bill Bills fans are feeling pretty
Speaker 1: good about their guy right now. Yeah. I mean, if
Speaker 1: it's a roller coaster ride, Uh, this is the part
Speaker 1: of the ride where you're you know, you're up on
Speaker 1: the top. You can see all of Los Angeles or
Speaker 1: in this case, all of Western New York unfolding before you.
Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful early September day. Even Niagara Falls
Speaker 1: is beneath you. Sure you're above the falls, so every
Speaker 1: thing is great. Um for me, I think has a
Speaker 1: lot to do with Brian Dable, who we've mentioned before
Speaker 1: a bunch and you know he has been all over
Speaker 1: the place as in O C. But I think he
Speaker 1: helped Alan down the stretch last year. I think he
Speaker 1: continues to do that. Alan and I really don't care
Speaker 1: about passing totals. It just seems like a lot of
Speaker 1: it can be wacky stuff, but these are coming in wins.
Speaker 1: This isn't garbage time. He's the first Bills quarterback to
Speaker 1: throw for three d yards and back to back games
Speaker 1: since Drew Bledsoe in two thousand two. I think that
Speaker 1: just tells you how low functioning some of their passing
Speaker 1: attacks have been since. But this, to me, the game
Speaker 1: I looked at the Dolphins about three quarters and now
Speaker 1: you know, and you Greg's talking about he got a
Speaker 1: great draft. I probably had one of the worst UM
Speaker 1: Weekly drafts you could you could conjure up for games,
Speaker 1: because when this thing sunk into a weather delay about
Speaker 1: an hour and forty minutes minutes into it, I thought,
Speaker 1: my heavens, what have I gone on? What's going on here?
Speaker 1: The Dolphins to me looked identity free and just like
Speaker 1: a team with really nothing special to offer at all.
Speaker 1: UM three quarters through and maybe that special element is
Speaker 1: when TWA gets on the field at some point. Not terrible,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not last year's team, but they're kind
Speaker 1: of last year's team. And Buffalo, you know, basically just
Speaker 1: plotted and moved their way to a win. Here. This
Speaker 1: is a game where I think, but this Buffalo is
Speaker 1: not gonna win the same way that Kansas City wins
Speaker 1: or or really even Pittsburgh. I just think that they
Speaker 1: are who they are. UM, it all rides on allan
Speaker 1: not to be totally cliche about it, but it does.
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs is working out. I would say that the
Speaker 1: Diggs connection, the whole signing, there's another sliding doors world
Speaker 1: where Diggs is upset already, UM, and he's annoyed at
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is thrown in. There's eight interceptions. Off to
Speaker 1: a really good start. I like the what eventually. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to keep it positive here. I mean, Devin
Speaker 1: Singletary and Zach Moss are an interesting backfield combo. They
Speaker 1: just had. You know, you look at where they were
Speaker 1: two years ago on offense and where they are today
Speaker 1: and how quickly they built around their quarterback. For some
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks that are are not functional, that's part
Speaker 1: of it. And Alan had doesn't have the excuse, but
Speaker 1: nor does he need to make him. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: these are two of his better weeks around. I think
Speaker 1: the Dallas game last year was a high watermark for
Speaker 1: Allen and he's he's heading into that territory right now,
Speaker 1: and so so far, so good for a team that
Speaker 1: should win the division. Um if the Buffalo or if
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots stumbled, the Stefan Diggs move right
Speaker 1: now looks like a master stroke. And I will say
Speaker 1: it wasn't as obvious now as it seemed then because
Speaker 1: when they pulled the trigger on that trade and gave
Speaker 1: a first round pick UH to the Vikings, There are
Speaker 1: a lot of people saying, why would they give up
Speaker 1: a first round pick for Stefon Diggs when the greatest
Speaker 1: wide receiver class in twenty years is coming up and
Speaker 1: you can get somebody cheaper and perhaps even better than
Speaker 1: the Stefon Diggs. Well, then real football starts and you
Speaker 1: realize that, oh, it's good to have a twenty seven
Speaker 1: year old Stefan Diggs and his prime Uh, immediately hitting
Speaker 1: your roster and playing at a high level. And that's
Speaker 1: what this team needed. That guy to step in. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the Vikings in a little bit.
Speaker 1: A team that seems totally lost on offense without Stefon Diggs. Uh,
Speaker 1: their quarterback doesn't know what to do or who to trust.
Speaker 1: Through two weeks, he's been a monster upgrade for them.
Speaker 1: He's really good. Um. You know how Bruce Harrian's has
Speaker 1: that postgame routine where he waits for all the fans
Speaker 1: to leave and then he he takes a few people
Speaker 1: out to the old pick up truck and does the
Speaker 1: He does the real tailgate actually on Sunday nights. I
Speaker 1: think if you're a Bill's front office operative, you gotta
Speaker 1: hit Lake Erie and Terry Pagoula's yacht for for a
Speaker 1: postgame drink after this one. I mean, look at you
Speaker 1: drafted a very polarizing quarterback who had as many physical
Speaker 1: gifts as any any quarterback to answer the league probably
Speaker 1: um and this is against two bad teams, But so
Speaker 1: far it's working out like your investment is paying off.
Speaker 1: And what you did to surround him with Smoky Brown
Speaker 1: and Cool Beasley and now Stefon Diggs, it's really working out.
Speaker 1: And Josh Allen seems to be improving by the week.
Speaker 1: The key is having a plan for it. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it has been against the Jets and the Dolphins, and
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching this game because I saw
Speaker 1: that the sideline throw of digs On on their key
Speaker 1: drive at the end of the even that was an
Speaker 1: unbelievable touch throw by Josh Allen. And if he can
Speaker 1: keep doing those things, you know, the sky is the limit.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's a schemed up offense. And I
Speaker 1: always say to me, he's he's the poor man's Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: And when I'm saying that, I'm talking about a young
Speaker 1: Cam Newton that you know, one of the great college
Speaker 1: prospects to ever come out and one of the most
Speaker 1: physically imposing players I've ever seen. I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: young Cam Newton, and Cam Newton is ultimately kind of
Speaker 1: a scheme based quarterback that you gotta have the right
Speaker 1: system around him or else it's gonna be up and down.
Speaker 1: And right now they got the right system around now.
Speaker 1: I mean Newton had that MVP season. Hasn't been a
Speaker 1: top ten quarterbacks since because different things have have happened. Uh,
Speaker 1: And right now it seems like with the talent around
Speaker 1: Alan that they can eat up on below average defenses.
Speaker 1: And if you look at their schedule coming up, that's
Speaker 1: all I see for a while. I mean, you got
Speaker 1: the Patriots, I guess in a month, and we'll see
Speaker 1: how good their defense Isn't that the Rams are fine
Speaker 1: next week. But for the most part, they're an offensive team.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why I wasn't quite
Speaker 1: as trusting of the Bills, in addition to my you know,
Speaker 1: skepticism about Alan being consistent. If they can be an
Speaker 1: offensive team like then then the sky is the limit
Speaker 1: for them. And they clearly have been an offensive team
Speaker 1: through two weeks. One like five second note on the
Speaker 1: Dolphins Mike Kasicki hundred and thirty yards. We've been waiting
Speaker 1: for this guy to kind of do it. Um he
Speaker 1: looked good today, all right. Speaking of Stefan Diggs's former team,
Speaker 1: Let's see how they fared after the ugly week when
Speaker 1: showing against the Packers spoiler alert, they sucked Becausin's three
Speaker 1: receiver stack to the left side, empty sept. They getting
Speaker 1: his own end zone to throw, and the cults have
Speaker 1: them for a moment, and they have them now in
Speaker 1: the intew and somehow gets out of it and he
Speaker 1: physically now he's passed the end zone at the two
Speaker 1: yard line. But taking a look at the officials town below,
Speaker 1: they have their arms up to signalize safety. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be Justin Houston and DeForest Buckner combining on the sack
Speaker 1: of the Colt Matt Taylor w f n I with
Speaker 1: the call, Yeah, that was Kirk Cousins data nutshell, nowhere
Speaker 1: to go, nothing to do. Failure ensues. The Indianapolis Colt
Speaker 1: has become the second team in as many weeks to
Speaker 1: bully the Vikings. Jonathan Taylor went over a hundred yards
Speaker 1: with a touchdown in the indian defense smothered Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: in eleven win for the Vikings. It was just another
Speaker 1: ugly day. Cousins about this, I know you guys hate
Speaker 1: passer rating or whatever opinions. I think it's fine. Stat
Speaker 1: It's not perfect, but nothing is. Kirk Cousins at a
Speaker 1: zero point zero passer rating late into the third quarter. UM,
Speaker 1: there were some drops in there, but in general, the
Speaker 1: offense just cannot get in a game flow. Same thing
Speaker 1: happened last week when the defense couldn't get off the
Speaker 1: field with Aaron Rodgers. Uh, this time Dalvin Cook again,
Speaker 1: who should be the centerpiece of this offense. But they
Speaker 1: keep on falling behind and it throws off their game
Speaker 1: script and they end up in these situations where they
Speaker 1: need Cousins to make things happen. And the problem right
Speaker 1: now is that he trusts Adam Feeling, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if he trusts anyone else because he just doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like he's confident going through his progressions and and
Speaker 1: and trying to move the offense which has been really
Speaker 1: at a standstill now uh for two weeks. And the
Speaker 1: defense it wasn't embarrassing as embarrassing as it was last
Speaker 1: week against the Packers, but still not a great job.
Speaker 1: They got a bunch of stops and that led to
Speaker 1: field goals that kept it from getting completely out of
Speaker 1: hand here. But you know, Indianapolis had almost seventeen minutes
Speaker 1: advantage in time of possession and they let you know,
Speaker 1: mo Ali Cox go wild on them for five catches
Speaker 1: for one eleven. The Colts ran forty times for a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one yards. The Vikings are a team
Speaker 1: in transition right now, where their offense is trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what their identity is in a digslis world,
Speaker 1: and the defense is a bunch of young guys and
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're doing yet. And when you
Speaker 1: combine those two things against two quality opponents, that's how
Speaker 1: O and two happens. And it's not looking good right now.
Speaker 1: In transition. Sounds like a very um kind way to
Speaker 1: put it. I mean, that's what you hope if you're
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer, that they're gonna figure it out. And I
Speaker 1: still think they will, but I mean right now they're
Speaker 1: just not ready for prime time. They're gonna establish the
Speaker 1: run team, and when you try to establish the run
Speaker 1: but you don't go anywhere, keeps putting the quarterback in
Speaker 1: awful situations, especially when you want to be a play
Speaker 1: action team. Well that's their identity. Last year at this time,
Speaker 1: we're talking about how great Dalvin Cooks looking, and they're
Speaker 1: running over everybody with Madison playing behind him, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: because I mean Cousins went back to pass thirty times
Speaker 1: and uh they have nine yards passing. So then you
Speaker 1: can you can make up a bunch of other reasons
Speaker 1: in terms of game script or the running game and
Speaker 1: their defense and that those are all true too. But
Speaker 1: that stinks. I mean, that's that's pathetic. That's you know,
Speaker 1: the worst passing attack in the league. Justin Jefferson. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying right now, they looked actually thought they
Speaker 1: looked good offensively last week. I thought it was almost
Speaker 1: unfair to criticize the offense at all. It was such
Speaker 1: a strange, strange game that was kind of like to me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I really did. They moved for three quarters last week.
Speaker 1: They moved, they moved the ball. There were some things
Speaker 1: that happened in that game obviously that they that they
Speaker 1: fell behind, But I don't think it was a disastrous
Speaker 1: offensive performance. This this clearly was and Cousins after the game,
Speaker 1: to me, was disastrous because they asked him how disappointed
Speaker 1: is to be oh and two and he answered it,
Speaker 1: and I like, well, of course, you know, if you
Speaker 1: want you you set out to win each game that
Speaker 1: you played. But then he immediately pivoted to I really
Speaker 1: wanted to focus this season on, you know, improving a
Speaker 1: little bit more, you know, making plays off script, making
Speaker 1: plays with my feet, and I think I've done a
Speaker 1: good job of that through two weeks. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Because I keep hearing this on
Speaker 1: these vikings telling that's all Kirk Cousins has talked about.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, we want to improve. You know, he
Speaker 1: can't really make plays off script anymore. It's like, great,
Speaker 1: you ran for seven yards once last week, and you
Speaker 1: made like one throw on the run this week or
Speaker 1: whatever happened. It's like, what are you talking about, Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: He's the only guy in the world who thinks he
Speaker 1: can plan to off script exactly exactly. Didn't he didn't
Speaker 1: He have a quote before the season that he wasn't
Speaker 1: afraid to die or something, maybe just from yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: the maybe like the streaming Kirk cousins tweets aren't the
Speaker 1: first thing the Vikings twitter feed needs to be offering us.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, though, Jonathan Taylor, I've we've
Speaker 1: been excited about this guy. How did he look for
Speaker 1: the Cult stand He wasn't. I wouldn't call it an
Speaker 1: electrifying game where he was jumping off the page, but
Speaker 1: he was absolutely like the guy. Uh. He was their
Speaker 1: guy and and obviously the numbers back it up that
Speaker 1: he was a part of moving and they moved the
Speaker 1: ball pretty well. The Cults, they they weren't great um
Speaker 1: punching it into the end zone, but Philip rivers through
Speaker 1: one pick but he was he was fine. Um. I
Speaker 1: thought the offense overall was solid. They did get bad
Speaker 1: news in the second quarter of Paris. Campbell, a guy
Speaker 1: who just cannot catch a break. He had a seven
Speaker 1: yard rushing attempt near the right sideline, went down, grabbing
Speaker 1: his knee, doing the whole thing that you never like
Speaker 1: to see, pounding the turf and then looking distraught as
Speaker 1: he's being carted off. It's not clear as of right
Speaker 1: now how serious it is, but it didn't look good.
Speaker 1: MALIEK Cooker, their safety former. First there was an update
Speaker 1: on Paris Campbell. After the game, they say they believe
Speaker 1: it's not an a c O. Okay, well that's good
Speaker 1: because it certainly looked like a season ending injury at
Speaker 1: the time. And then Malee Cooker he had an achilles injury.
Speaker 1: I don't know how serious that is, but this comes
Speaker 1: one week after. Of course, Marlon Mack was lost to
Speaker 1: the year to a blown achilles But Campbell's injury story
Speaker 1: is crazy. Now. He played just seven games last year.
Speaker 1: He was a big time player at Ohio State, but
Speaker 1: he had a hamstring injury, an abdominal injury, a broken hand,
Speaker 1: a broken foot, and now a knee injury. Knee injury.
Speaker 1: It's just sometimes these guys, certain guys just cannot catch.
Speaker 1: He's been like getting great reviews from them all summer too,
Speaker 1: and looked good last week. And they and I did
Speaker 1: say though that this was sort of the DeForest Buckner
Speaker 1: game you could point to where he was absolutely reeking
Speaker 1: um chaos on on the Vikings offense. I mean, Rivers
Speaker 1: got to stop throwing picks inside the five. This this
Speaker 1: is a team that kind of defined itself for much
Speaker 1: of last year, has a great red zone team, and
Speaker 1: they've been getting pretty bad in the red zone through
Speaker 1: two weeks, so he he's got to clean that up.
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep moving. Rogers alone with the shotgun now,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones joins him in the offensive backfield. DeVante to
Speaker 1: the right, single receiver left less. Argiv Is to Jones,
Speaker 1: I'm the middle rightist. Yes, it's gonna be secretary at
Speaker 1: the Delmont him chust Jone. I mean, it's so weird
Speaker 1: without seventy thousand screaming cheese heads there, but still an
Speaker 1: inspired call by Wayne Larity of w t MJ. Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones went off her career high a hundred sixty eight yards,
Speaker 1: scored three touchdowns, including that seventy five yard surge you
Speaker 1: just heard. Packers rally back from the early depthsit to
Speaker 1: beat the Lions forty two to twenty one. West Jones
Speaker 1: also left Green Bay with sixty eight seaving yards and
Speaker 1: four catches. The Packers have started this season looking legit.
Speaker 1: It's funny Aaron Rodgers has with a first round pick
Speaker 1: at his position, has one of the best games he's
Speaker 1: ever had in Week one, and then Aaron Jones, with
Speaker 1: a second round pick at his position, has possibly his
Speaker 1: best career game in Week two, and a reminder that
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this isn't just an Aaron Rodgers team. They've
Speaker 1: got a running back who scored twenty touchdowns last year
Speaker 1: and in this game went wild. Uh the two thirty
Speaker 1: total yards during thirty eight three touchdowns, had an awesome
Speaker 1: catch backward twisting, leaping catch with a cornerback and man
Speaker 1: to man coverage down field. Had a really impressive blitz
Speaker 1: pick up on about as Scantling's forty one yard touchdown
Speaker 1: or a forty one yard catch. It was really impressive
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones performance and to me, a grown up game
Speaker 1: for the Packers where we we questioned how much of
Speaker 1: last year was sort of sneaking up on the people,
Speaker 1: taking advantage of the schedule, and how much of it
Speaker 1: was staying power. And to me, if you've watched this
Speaker 1: matchup in the previous couple of years, you know that
Speaker 1: Matt Matt Patricia's Lions defense really takes away what the
Speaker 1: Packers want to do, takes away their big plays um
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers style to me, has always been kind
Speaker 1: of like a matador. He he wants everyone in the
Speaker 1: stadium to have the attention on him because he's he's
Speaker 1: out there putting on a performance. He had to kind
Speaker 1: of like play a mature playing close to the vest,
Speaker 1: take what the defense gives him, um and settle for that.
Speaker 1: Letting the running back have the spotlight look like a
Speaker 1: very grown up performance after the Lions jumped out to
Speaker 1: a big league I love you comparing him to a matador.
Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect uh comp for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Come on, you know he wants to be out there
Speaker 1: with a rose between his teeth. Absolutely, I think it's
Speaker 1: perfect yards on offense. I mean, I would imagine if
Speaker 1: you dig into Matt Laflour's brain, he would rather it
Speaker 1: look a little bit more like this than Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: having to save the day or do it all on
Speaker 1: his own. He wants to be run happy. I think
Speaker 1: that we saw that last year, and this seems like
Speaker 1: the perfect marriage of the two, right. I mean this, this,
Speaker 1: this is the best case scenario for the packer. I
Speaker 1: think they've had one of the most meaningful first two
Speaker 1: weeks of the season's so you know, we say you
Speaker 1: can only take so much, Well, you're there are two
Speaker 1: games ahead of the Vikings and the Lions. Two teams
Speaker 1: you know various members. I thought the Vikings would be
Speaker 1: very frisky. I know Dan did too. Mark like the
Speaker 1: line there are already two games ahead with wins in
Speaker 1: in hand, and they're showing some signs. I think, to
Speaker 1: to West's point that Okay, yeah, they got lucky to
Speaker 1: go thirteen and three on some level because they want
Speaker 1: so many close games. But there is another route towards
Speaker 1: UM how you you know, repeat, It's like the luck
Speaker 1: that you are supposed to lose doesn't matter if you
Speaker 1: just get better. Like if there were a significantly better
Speaker 1: team and they were a fairly young team on defense, UM,
Speaker 1: and they certainly had some areas on offense where they
Speaker 1: have big time talent, Like they can just be a
Speaker 1: better team. And if the division is shaping up early,
Speaker 1: how it looks like they have to feel very good
Speaker 1: about where they sit in mid September. Looks get better
Speaker 1: from from your own guys, developing UM Fox foxes Jen
Speaker 1: Hale sibon reporter who listens to our show and sent
Speaker 1: me a very nice message about my cancer battle. UM reported, Yeah, Jim,
Speaker 1: they got a pretty pretty stern tongue lashing Packers defense
Speaker 1: got a pretty stern tongue lashing in halftime. But Russian Gary,
Speaker 1: their first round pick, had had the game of his
Speaker 1: career so far, one and a half sacks in addition
Speaker 1: to the pressure that contributed to a pick six for
Speaker 1: Chandon Sullivan. So they're getting some improvement on a day
Speaker 1: when they didn't have Kenny Clark out there from a
Speaker 1: guy they drafted early last year. If you're looking for
Speaker 1: one potential negative to take out of Game two for
Speaker 1: the Packers, it's Davante Adams. Sounds like he got beat
Speaker 1: up an ankle issue and he got rolled up on early,
Speaker 1: and then there was some type of hamstring issue later
Speaker 1: in the game. Targeted only three times, So hopefully that's
Speaker 1: not too serious. West, because as much as everyone made
Speaker 1: a big deal about uh Lazard and MVS making plays
Speaker 1: in Week one, is still remains a wide receiver group
Speaker 1: that very much needs Davante Adams at the forefront. Hamstrings
Speaker 1: are now notoriously tricky. But my sense just from watching
Speaker 1: the game was that if they needed him, he could
Speaker 1: have gone back out there. Um well, we'll see how
Speaker 1: it shapes up. But he didn't seem to be like
Speaker 1: distraught or anything about the injury. You know, what annoys
Speaker 1: me about the Lions and it's it's so easy just
Speaker 1: pointing Mapatricia Bob Quinn, general manager. I want to put
Speaker 1: him in a room. I want you to tell me
Speaker 1: what it is you perceived to be the makings of
Speaker 1: a team progress. But hang on a second, mark, hang
Speaker 1: on you and many other national pundits were high on
Speaker 1: the Lions by saying that it was a roster that
Speaker 1: was ready to make a move. So now you can't
Speaker 1: come after Quinn after two losses. Wait a minute, how
Speaker 1: about I finish my statement, Like, first of all, you
Speaker 1: get into hot water and signed Adrian Peterson and suddenly
Speaker 1: your offense. Like when we were crowing about the Lions,
Speaker 1: it was the idea of these parts working together and
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift being someone I thought would make a big difference.
Speaker 1: He has a key drop in the first week. He's
Speaker 1: part of a committee backfield. There are committee back fields
Speaker 1: that work, and their committee back fields that are there
Speaker 1: because the team just seems direction lists. This seems the
Speaker 1: ladder in me and Mina Kimes and fill in the blank.
Speaker 1: Jumping on the Lions in mid August feels like one
Speaker 1: of the dumber developments of the last year, So I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not arguing for myself, but I would say
Speaker 1: that whether or not they were frisky this year, Bob
Speaker 1: Quinn acts like he's gonna sit in this chair for
Speaker 1: twenty five years, make it happen, or put someone in
Speaker 1: there who will. But I still don't know. And I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to cause an issue or a riff between
Speaker 1: you and may Mark, but I'm trying to make sense
Speaker 1: of your logic right now that you were high on
Speaker 1: them as a team that really had the ability to
Speaker 1: well prize people. And the Adrian Peterson signing was done
Speaker 1: at a necessity because the injuries, and he was pretty
Speaker 1: effective in week one. I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 1: it's reducted to put it on the head coach either,
Speaker 1: but that I mean, it just feels like this is
Speaker 1: a team that has talent that isn't coached well. And
Speaker 1: here we are again, oh and two, staring down the barrel,
Speaker 1: another double digit lawsuit from another angle, Like you know,
Speaker 1: Kenny Gollady is not on the field or your backfields
Speaker 1: not going the way it's it's meant to. And you
Speaker 1: were flamed last week and this week, um largely because
Speaker 1: your secondary is in total tatters, and your number one
Speaker 1: draft pick isn't on the field, so that that I
Speaker 1: can't put on Quinn. But in general, the overall Bob
Speaker 1: Queinn experience is slightly questionable. And what this the third
Speaker 1: year of Matt Patricia's defense. They've really invested in the
Speaker 1: defensive front. And where's the pass rush? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not Roger's best statistical performance, but I think he might
Speaker 1: have got stacked once he had all day to throw
Speaker 1: for most of the afternoon. They just have no no
Speaker 1: identity on this defense. Well, their identity is a three
Speaker 1: man rush. I mean, no one loves a three man
Speaker 1: rush like Matt Patricia. No one loves a three man
Speaker 1: rush and in the eleven yard completion for the opposing
Speaker 1: offenses for a first down more than Patricia. That's that's
Speaker 1: his that's his identity. Let's check in with another NFC
Speaker 1: North squad. Plenty of time of the play clock, hard coup.
Speaker 1: They rushed three drop eight mission, the pocket now darting
Speaker 1: around thinking about what to do, resettles now flips it
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Left side cup of their make
Speaker 1: it attach touchdown bears dart Alboni, who I love an
Speaker 1: instrument con I mean note it is is a masculine
Speaker 1: sey Dan Horde w C k y with the call.
Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears are two and oh how about that?
Speaker 1: Mr Bisky threw a pair of touchdowns in the first half,
Speaker 1: and the Chicago defense held off the late Giants comeback
Speaker 1: attempt at what sounds like an utterly thrilling seventy and
Speaker 1: fourteen final at Soldier Field. Unfortunately, the biggest story out
Speaker 1: of this game was an apparently serious knee injury suffered
Speaker 1: by say Kwan Barkley. What happened, Mark, Well, it's if
Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan, you know, and we both know
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, you gotta ask yourself if it's
Speaker 1: hurtins to some degree? I mean, se Kwon Barkley torn
Speaker 1: a c L um sterling Shepherd? Is that confirmed? Is
Speaker 1: it an a C L tarif for Barkley? That's what
Speaker 1: I read. I will it's believed. It's one of those
Speaker 1: where they say that's the new way to do it.
Speaker 1: Is we they believe it to be in the m R.
Speaker 1: I will confirm it, which does that's a killer and
Speaker 1: they actually, I mean Wayne Goldman was a healthy scratch,
Speaker 1: so they they were in hot water. The minute that happened,
Speaker 1: it happened early Sterling Shepherd hobbled off. You know, it's
Speaker 1: this a c l for se Kwon Barkley, one of
Speaker 1: the most supremely talented running backs we've seen in a
Speaker 1: long time. And now you're gonna blow out his knee
Speaker 1: after you the knee lit the ankle ligament issue last year.
Speaker 1: That is that is not fair. That makes football less fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it made it made Daniel Jones a whole lot
Speaker 1: less fun to who um, you know, And I came
Speaker 1: out of the Monday night game that we all know
Speaker 1: he's gonna turn the ball over. He's gonna make things
Speaker 1: a little too interesting at times, but I find him
Speaker 1: exciting and I love um the Daniel Jones experiences. But
Speaker 1: today you got the killer interception, you got another lost fumble.
Speaker 1: It was the Giants just put themselves into a hole.
Speaker 1: The injuries mounted, and the Bears, you know, look credit
Speaker 1: for It was kind of the reverse of last week's
Speaker 1: game where the Bears were pretty good out of the gate.
Speaker 1: Mitch Drabinsky made a couple of darts and I'm really
Speaker 1: reluctant to get on the Mitch Drabinsky um bandwagon if
Speaker 1: there is such a vehicle roaming around, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if it exists, doesn't exist, and there's no way
Speaker 1: you would jump on it. I said, just if there was,
Speaker 1: you know, he's two and oh and there's people forming
Speaker 1: a Mitch Robinsky bandwagon. No, no, that does not exist.
Speaker 1: But he made a beautiful a beautiful touchdown. Um tossed
Speaker 1: to Darnell Mooney. Mooney the rookie. He did some good
Speaker 1: things and then in the second half, you know, it
Speaker 1: just it wasn't the same. I don't want to call
Speaker 1: him a soft to and oh, because you can't blame
Speaker 1: who you're playing. Um, you beat a banged up Lions
Speaker 1: to him last week, you took her of a very
Speaker 1: banged up giant. I mean, it doesn't get much softer
Speaker 1: than Swift dropping the ball in the end. No, it's
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's just that I think the Bears
Speaker 1: are probably um a competent nine and seven type team,
Speaker 1: and they've gotten off to a fast start. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to kill him, but they just you know, you
Speaker 1: look at how it's played out so far. I mean,
Speaker 1: there will say this, Yeah, I'll say this. Mark he's
Speaker 1: gonna start Week three for the Bears, and I I'm
Speaker 1: surprised that he's made it this far and maybe maybe
Speaker 1: he'll bomb out week three and we'll see Nick Foles
Speaker 1: after that. But if you're a Bears fan, you're probably
Speaker 1: feeling like, obviously you feel good about two and oh,
Speaker 1: but it's like wow, everyone probably had this in the
Speaker 1: back of their mind, this idea that they were going
Speaker 1: to create her and then they're gonna turn to Foles
Speaker 1: to try to save the season. But instead you're in
Speaker 1: like very good shape as you hit late September. I
Speaker 1: mean the team is I I would say, I mean,
Speaker 1: unless you're like a Bears fan with blinders on, why
Speaker 1: what do you roote? I think you've probably confused as
Speaker 1: to what you're rooting. Were to happen at quarterback, where
Speaker 1: he has the best possible he has the best possible
Speaker 1: opponent next week, makee the Falcons. I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: They don't You don't have to give those wins back.
Speaker 1: And you know there's no asterik that uh you know,
Speaker 1: Shepherd and Barkley got hurt here, but this is it
Speaker 1: just reminds you the Giants last year. I I am
Speaker 1: really disappointed to hear this because because of the watchability
Speaker 1: factor Dion Lewis after Barkley goes out, Barkley was four
Speaker 1: for twenty. Dan Lewis goes ten for twenty. It was
Speaker 1: a weird signing. And I thought, as there as their backup,
Speaker 1: he just doesn't look like the same guy and then
Speaker 1: you're one dimensional, and I thought it was I mean,
Speaker 1: it was such a telling stat that this was the
Speaker 1: first game in Daniel Jones' career, first game where he
Speaker 1: took a single snap with Shepherd, Tate ingram Um and
Speaker 1: who am I forgetting? And Barkley all on the field
Speaker 1: at the same time, with with Slayton, who has been
Speaker 1: good like this was it? This was the first time
Speaker 1: that one of those guys wasn't hurt. And Barkley tears
Speaker 1: his a c L and Shepard gets hurt last minutes
Speaker 1: and I mean it's you know, you like, I like
Speaker 1: the way that this team has built, but availability is
Speaker 1: everything and they have been the opposite. Can someone clarify
Speaker 1: this to me? It's a modern athlete thing that pops
Speaker 1: up every few weeks when a when a player is
Speaker 1: usually surrounding a contract squabble, but in this case, se
Speaker 1: Kwon bar Barkley suffers a devastating injury. Today, he's obviously
Speaker 1: frustrated and upset. He, according to an article in The
Speaker 1: New York Post, went onto his Instagram that has more
Speaker 1: than two point two million followers and scrubbed every Giant's
Speaker 1: reference photo from his instagram. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: what that's about. But this in general, like this idea
Speaker 1: of scrubbing your team from your social media is one
Speaker 1: of the weirder ways to send messages through. This is
Speaker 1: our age. This is our age. But Alan Robinson on
Speaker 1: the other side of the field this week, Wait, tell
Speaker 1: me how, Tell me how that shows our age? Like
Speaker 1: what is that? Like? Tell me why that is something
Speaker 1: that happens? Like, I don't understand you're allowed to be
Speaker 1: very passive aggressive in today's age, where when we're growing
Speaker 1: up you weren't. It's almost so painful for you to be. Well,
Speaker 1: here's why it shows our age because we don't understand it.
Speaker 1: But I think if you're under thirty, it's it's some
Speaker 1: It makes more sense that all right, well we grew
Speaker 1: up in someone under thirty connected to this podcast, let's
Speaker 1: bring in Erica tamp Post who's gonna explain to me,
Speaker 1: the old man, why it is an effective way to
Speaker 1: express yourself rather than post something on the Players Tribune
Speaker 1: or or speak to a Beat reporter you trust or
Speaker 1: we're not saying anything at all, to delete all references
Speaker 1: to the team you play for from your social media.
Speaker 1: Help me? Well, we're talking about it, aren't we. It's good.
Speaker 1: I think it's also it's mysterious. We don't know why
Speaker 1: he did it. We especially it's completely why do you
Speaker 1: want to be talked about when you just tore your
Speaker 1: a c L. He left one post. It might not
Speaker 1: have anything to do with the Giants. The post was
Speaker 1: like Kobe Bryant, and so maybe that that's his thing,
Speaker 1: is like now he's he's he's getting he's getting into
Speaker 1: the Momba mentality. Whatever to do with when you delete
Speaker 1: the photos at showing his distaste in potentially the Giants organization,
Speaker 1: and maybe they he feels that it's their fault that
Speaker 1: he was He deleted everything that's personal on his page too,
Speaker 1: like that had nothing to do with the Giants, And
Speaker 1: in Alan Robinson's case, it's kind of like just I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's apparently the relationship so painful. It's like
Speaker 1: you just have to forget about you know, he was
Speaker 1: trying the statement now right, Robinson worked sends a statement
Speaker 1: an actual statements. Are we trying to argue that are
Speaker 1: we trying to argue that passive aggressiveness is in a trap?
Speaker 1: But what do you want him to do? Send a
Speaker 1: like a carrier pigeon lest it's honey, even some kind
Speaker 1: of a racing speaking addressed. He's not he how he is?
Speaker 1: He's got two point two million followers. We're talking, Yes
Speaker 1: it is. He's pissed at the giants and we all
Speaker 1: know it, and he doesn't want to be there. You
Speaker 1: can appreciate now. I could see a twenty five year
Speaker 1: old Dan like he had a really bad day at work,
Speaker 1: and it's like, we're just not sure what we're doing
Speaker 1: with you at this network, and Dan like scrubs all
Speaker 1: NFL network content from his Instagram feed and like drives
Speaker 1: home eighty six miles an hour. Year old Dan from
Speaker 1: a different world, not his world just collapse and he
Speaker 1: just deleted everything on his social because his world is
Speaker 1: very black today. I think it's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a jump to say has anything to do with the giants.
Speaker 1: He deleted everything. He's focused on rehab. That's that's what
Speaker 1: he's telling us. Everything else that changes the story, right,
Speaker 1: every one irrelevant sports book there's ever been. And uh,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, players spoke their mind a
Speaker 1: little bit more back in the day if they were upset.
Speaker 1: Perhaps maybe this is another example of guys don't want
Speaker 1: other people to you know, repurpose their quoting into a
Speaker 1: different narrative. I don't know. I guess I am too
Speaker 1: old to figure. I think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 1: It's also that there's so much money at stake now
Speaker 1: that they don't want to say anything that could come
Speaker 1: back on them. So join this is a way of
Speaker 1: passive aggressively saying something, Well, we better wrap this up
Speaker 1: because I hear say Kwon Barkley's going to the town
Speaker 1: square and he's gonna, you know, make a large statement
Speaker 1: to the group. So we would get the flutist with
Speaker 1: him in a little guitar player to make a big
Speaker 1: impact with thank you, thank you as always to our team.
Speaker 1: Correspondent Erica Tamposte. Let's keep moving, seconds remaining a second.
Speaker 1: Harold Langry, the man who patted it big Jeff the
Speaker 1: man who caught it, Harold Langry and them. That show
Speaker 1: ends as the curtain goes down seven seconds. Okay, great team,
Speaker 1: Mike Keith and Dave McGinnis of w g f X
Speaker 1: with the call. Yeah, the Titans got a forty nine
Speaker 1: yard field goal from Stephen Giskowski. How about that with
Speaker 1: a minute thirty six to play, and then Harold Landry
Speaker 1: snatch that fluttering Gardner Meanshew pass out of the air
Speaker 1: in the final minute to seal a thirty three to
Speaker 1: thirty victory for the Titans over the Jaguars. Greg Good,
Speaker 1: teams figure out a way to win close games. The
Speaker 1: Titans have done it twice in six days. Yeah, they have.
Speaker 1: And the Ghost was a key part of it. I
Speaker 1: mean he hit a long field goal over fifty yards
Speaker 1: to end the first half that came off of a
Speaker 1: special team's misqu by the Jaguars. That the Jaguars have
Speaker 1: to be kicking themselves in this one because their offense
Speaker 1: played so well. I was so impressed by Gardner. Minshew.
Speaker 1: You look at the box scorning, you see two inner
Speaker 1: exceptions and and you know what happened at the end.
Speaker 1: It was a tip pass at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: We tried to fit it in and he is a
Speaker 1: little shorter, so I don't know if you want to
Speaker 1: put that on him at all, but it was bad luck.
Speaker 1: The rest of the snaps he took were awesome. I've
Speaker 1: been so impressed by their young players in general. Minshew
Speaker 1: being the key one. He sees where the blitz is coming.
Speaker 1: He's been very accurate. He's he's had some great touch passes.
Speaker 1: He did connect one down the field. I know they
Speaker 1: lost this game, um, but I watched this team with
Speaker 1: James Robinson really running well today. We we talked about C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson last week. Uh. They just got some young players
Speaker 1: that I think that they can be excited about and
Speaker 1: and kind of in an opposite situation. Labisco Sonaut's another
Speaker 1: guy I wanted to mention it just wow. When he
Speaker 1: has the ball in his hand, he just moves a
Speaker 1: little different. He played a lot of running back today
Speaker 1: in addition to receiver uh and played great. Unlike last week.
Speaker 1: They they were the team that out gained and I
Speaker 1: thought outplayed the opponent and they found a way to lose,
Speaker 1: which was kind of the opposite of what happened against
Speaker 1: the Colts. But I think if you're a Jaguars fan,
Speaker 1: the defense is at least a year away. Um, But
Speaker 1: you're thinking that this offense with Jay Gruden and these
Speaker 1: young players, there's something there for this year that's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun to watch and uh and for the future
Speaker 1: because it's a really young group. You also you almost
Speaker 1: wonder if Jake Gruden would be given another chance that
Speaker 1: a head coach role at some point, um, depending on
Speaker 1: how this is early. For that, it's for that, I
Speaker 1: know it's early. I'm just saying like it's you know,
Speaker 1: he's he has transformed the attack a little bit. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this drive chart. Outside of one punt here,
Speaker 1: they had a stretch where was touchdown, field goal, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 1: I mean they this isn't doesn't sound like a flukey
Speaker 1: offense at all. I mean to me that, yes, the
Speaker 1: Titans deserve credit for pulling out two close games, but
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, you know, talked about fourteen days ago as
Speaker 1: a confirmed tank job. Um, feel like the complete opposite
Speaker 1: of that. The Titans do deserve credit. And there was
Speaker 1: a lot of skepticism of Ryan hannah Hill after the
Speaker 1: Titans won in the playoffs last year without him having
Speaker 1: to pass much. But they paid him like a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: And what tells me he's a franchise quarterback because he
Speaker 1: doesn't really have bad games anymore. He almost always has
Speaker 1: a good game. And and now with Derrick Henry bottled
Speaker 1: up two straight weeks with A J. Brown contributing nothing,
Speaker 1: he still looks good. He still moves this offense. You're right,
Speaker 1: they were a good offensive team. And I thought this
Speaker 1: was similar to last year in the way that he
Speaker 1: didn't have He only had like a handful of throws
Speaker 1: that he had to make, but he made him. And
Speaker 1: that was what the Titans um did so well last year.
Speaker 1: Tannehill's go ahead touchdown was to me, all as good
Speaker 1: a throw as Mahomes is. I mean, the that was
Speaker 1: as great a touchdown under pressure, getting absolutely hammered. Um
Speaker 1: put it up in the air. Uh and in a
Speaker 1: third and long situation, who was it that caught it?
Speaker 1: Now it was Adam Humphreys in the third quarter and
Speaker 1: he got up and he immediately like yelled out and
Speaker 1: one was And to me, that was such like an
Speaker 1: awesome like reaction by Ryan Tannell because it was a
Speaker 1: badass play. He only had to make a couple of
Speaker 1: them in this game. They protected him really well for
Speaker 1: the most part, so that that play was a little different.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars have no pass rush right now, but man Tannehill, uh,
Speaker 1: he can. He can spend some pretty ones when he
Speaker 1: gets a chance. All right, let's keep moving. Shotgun snapped to.
Speaker 1: Murray steps up and takes off far side of the
Speaker 1: twenty got room at the tan, cuts right to the five,
Speaker 1: jukes the defender and scores touchdown. Tyler Murray a twenty
Speaker 1: two yard run, his second rushing touchdown of the game.
Speaker 1: That defender is in multiple pieces at the five yard line.
Speaker 1: Dave passed. You know, Ron Wilfley always gets the glory
Speaker 1: for k t a r but passionate I was called
Speaker 1: a big spot there. Yeah. Kyler Murray right on schedule
Speaker 1: and he's making season. His dual threat skills off the
Speaker 1: charts right now. Over Washington. He threw for six yards
Speaker 1: and a score, but ran for two fourteen and twenty
Speaker 1: one yards, So he's doing it all right now. Mark
Speaker 1: and Washington which looks so dominant getting after Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: different bit of a different task for than this week.
Speaker 1: And it did not go well. Yeah, they followed their
Speaker 1: little game script, which is, let's fall down seventeen nothing
Speaker 1: and then see what happens. And last week it created
Speaker 1: a really likable story. This time around, no, and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's the last time they'll be down seventeen nothing.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to evaluate someone like Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 1: right now, Um, with the environment that he's in. I mean,
Speaker 1: Terry mclaurin's awesome. Uh, there's not a lot else happening
Speaker 1: on that offense, and when you get down seventeen nothing,
Speaker 1: there's it's it's against this team. Especially, it felt like Curtains.
Speaker 1: This game felt like it went on for four and
Speaker 1: a half hours. I will make that personal observation. But
Speaker 1: Ler Murray to me, um is such an I enjoy
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray because it's one of the kind of rare
Speaker 1: scenarios where you hype someone up all off season and
Speaker 1: he may be doing more than in some ways than
Speaker 1: people expect it. Just consistently he's throwing. He threw for
Speaker 1: sixty eight percent completion percentage today. I mean, he just is. Um.
Speaker 1: He doesn't make mistakes, Uh, not a lot of them.
Speaker 1: Uh he he keeps a defense like Washington's completely off
Speaker 1: on their toes the entire game because he can do everything,
Speaker 1: and this offense like functions around him really well. I
Speaker 1: the thing I look at a little bit with them
Speaker 1: is just that they don't have like some of these
Speaker 1: other teams. Um what if I don't think they have
Speaker 1: like a dominant ground game, except it kind of compiles
Speaker 1: by the end and Drake ended up with eighty six yards.
Speaker 1: But you don't that part of it is that Murray
Speaker 1: is such an integral part of that ground attack that
Speaker 1: like he fits right in and you don't worry about
Speaker 1: the back so much. I I just look at this
Speaker 1: team as a playoff team. I just do. I don't
Speaker 1: think that this is division. No, it's a tough division,
Speaker 1: and it's it's also like it's probably comes down to
Speaker 1: health and an injury luck. And we're about to get
Speaker 1: to the forty Niners. Not to jump in mark, but
Speaker 1: we're about to get to the Niners, a team that
Speaker 1: absolutely got bombed out by injuries today. That changes the
Speaker 1: course of their entire season and potentially opens the door
Speaker 1: for a team like the Cardinals to step in, right. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're the you know, clear cut
Speaker 1: second or third best team in the NFC. But with
Speaker 1: the way things are going, and if they stay healthy,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be there in weeks seventeen. If not, like
Speaker 1: having sealed something and I you know, the defense switched
Speaker 1: people out a lot of questions. I mean, it's tough
Speaker 1: to tell against Washington, but the fine I just think
Speaker 1: this is an interesting team, really well coached and fun
Speaker 1: to watch. Alright, speaking of the forty Niners. And he
Speaker 1: gets the right edge and gets down the sideline and
Speaker 1: he's gone right. He mostered is gone down the sideline.
Speaker 1: First play of the game, there's a toss, sweep and
Speaker 1: a touchdown on San fran Let's go. It feels great, baby.
Speaker 1: At the time, it did feel great for the forty nine.
Speaker 1: Is Greg Papa and Tim Ryan with the call for
Speaker 1: k n b R. When is a win really a loss?
Speaker 1: The forty Niners had no problem with a future Jets
Speaker 1: team at the Meadow Ends, but at thirteen victory tempered
Speaker 1: by a host of major injuries that could doom San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa hurts his knee as he's being carted to
Speaker 1: the locker room. What with what Kyle Shanahan would tell
Speaker 1: reporters later as a likecal likely a c L tear.
Speaker 1: Sam and Thomas goes down the number three overall pick
Speaker 1: in seventeen with a like likely a c L tear.
Speaker 1: They go down within about five minutes of one one another,
Speaker 1: decimating one of the strengths of that team, the defensive line.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo couldn't even move. He was sitting duck behind
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage uh in the first half with
Speaker 1: a bad ankle. And even though he had no problem
Speaker 1: picking the Jets apart because the Jets stink uh, he
Speaker 1: came out of the game at halftime. Whehee Mostard who
Speaker 1: you heard go untouched around the right end for eighty
Speaker 1: yards on the first play from scrimmage. He also has
Speaker 1: a ankle issue that he needs an m R I on.
Speaker 1: I believe it's a sprain. At this time, this was
Speaker 1: a forty Honors team already missing a host of impact players,
Speaker 1: including George Kittle, Deebo Samuel And it's hard to be
Speaker 1: optimistic about the defending conference champions right now. Nice, but
Speaker 1: what do you do from here? And where do you go? Well?
Speaker 1: Speaking about how old we are, I tweeted Mark that
Speaker 1: this was reminded me of Techmo Super Bowl back when
Speaker 1: you would play on season mode and they would conspire
Speaker 1: against you. It would be a string of injuries, fumbles,
Speaker 1: interceptions in the first a few games and you just say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna reset this thing. Just seasons lost? Can this season?
Speaker 1: I know it's like everything's conspiring against him right now.
Speaker 1: D Ford was out of this game. Richards Herman is
Speaker 1: on I R. DeFord hasn't been healthy basically since he
Speaker 1: got there, and they're gonna need him now. I watched
Speaker 1: him pretty closely last week and he did not look right. Now.
Speaker 1: He has a neck injury which has been recurring. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of the big developments of the season, especially
Speaker 1: Jimmy G's injury. I wonder, like we'll see, we'll see,
Speaker 1: um where where they got quarterback? Are they really worse off?
Speaker 1: Are they that much worse off? I mean, I like
Speaker 1: Nickles stats would tell you that he is a average
Speaker 1: to above average starting quarterback. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: there yet, but that's what his stats. Remember, Shanahan coached
Speaker 1: him up a couple of years ago. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Nick Moles had a minute on football Twitter with like
Speaker 1: the Greg's of the world where everybody was getting excited
Speaker 1: about him. So this this could he was a rookie draft.
Speaker 1: When we get fascinated with young quarterbacks, I guess it
Speaker 1: is I don't know, you seem to be very much.
Speaker 1: I am. Certainly I'm head over heels for Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: for instance. That's that's a young quarterback. But it's funny
Speaker 1: A No, Nick Mullins is a guy who could be
Speaker 1: in action because he Garoppo was really um compromised. There
Speaker 1: was a play in the first quarter where he went
Speaker 1: to plant on the bad ankle and it just kind
Speaker 1: of went on him. I know, I think he got
Speaker 1: tripped up a little bit from behind by Quinnin Williams,
Speaker 1: but he he just went down and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: did he just suffer a serious injury. It seemed like
Speaker 1: the type of injury that probably could use some time,
Speaker 1: uh to get right. But unless they really, you know,
Speaker 1: feel highly that Nick Mollins could can step in and
Speaker 1: make plays, they need Jimmy g to be in there
Speaker 1: and try to carry this team right now, it's a
Speaker 1: very bad situation. It's not good. When Jordan read in
Speaker 1: his and his you know, a couple of touchdowns in
Speaker 1: his presence is so crucial to this team. He's turned
Speaker 1: into a nice signing for them. He especially the first
Speaker 1: touchdown showed and Greg, you had talked him up a
Speaker 1: little bit before the season that he still he still
Speaker 1: can move and he's still has athleticism. It just becomes
Speaker 1: an issuable his body allowed him to do it week
Speaker 1: after week. Nobody outside of San Francisco seems to believe
Speaker 1: in Jimmy g anymore. But it is worth noting they've
Speaker 1: played about as many games with him and without him
Speaker 1: in the Kyle Shanahan era, and their winning percentages over
Speaker 1: eighty with him and it's under thirty without him. That's
Speaker 1: that's fair. That's fair. And the Jets, um dan uh
Speaker 1: I thought they had a chance to maybe be the
Speaker 1: worst team in the league going into the year, and
Speaker 1: uh wow, that you have to be a little disappointed,
Speaker 1: though I know that I know you weren't expecting to
Speaker 1: be good, but a little this is embarrassing. I actually
Speaker 1: think this is. I honestly think this is the worst
Speaker 1: Jets team in my lifetime. I think this is and
Speaker 1: Gaze might be as bad as co tight was and
Speaker 1: I don't even want to waste any more time on
Speaker 1: the Jets because I'm gonna let uh my old man
Speaker 1: share thoughts on the Jets today. But it is an embarrassment.
Speaker 1: And if Adam Gaze is not fired by Thanksgiving, the
Speaker 1: team is out of its mind because we don't need
Speaker 1: to see anything else. Uh. They have the wrong guy
Speaker 1: leading the ship and it's bringing everything down. Keith, take
Speaker 1: it away now. His name is Keith. He'll doubt about it.
Speaker 1: He's a big Jets fan. You go to say little
Speaker 1: games to day, go little game today. Dan raided the
Speaker 1: Jets dead last in the power rankings last week. This
Speaker 1: is not gonna change. Defeat today was a disgrace. The
Speaker 1: forty Niners, with three injured players in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: still destroyed the Jets. The Jet offense was anemic. Notes
Speaker 1: rows downfield and where are these calls from Gates that
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be waiting for? Three and out is
Speaker 1: a way? Is the Jets current way of operating on offense.
Speaker 1: The play of the day, in my opinion, was the
Speaker 1: third and thirty one for and they get a fifty
Speaker 1: five yard run. You can't make this up. The Jets
Speaker 1: have been a disgrace, Dan, Next game, please, Dan. Whatever
Speaker 1: we're paying your dad to do, to do this, we
Speaker 1: need to be doubling it because the Jets correspondent um role,
Speaker 1: which is which he thrives at, is um concerning what
Speaker 1: about me? While right here you're gonna hear the gravitas
Speaker 1: and Keith voice. That's my Walter Cronkite right there speaking
Speaker 1: with purpose today fireside chat. All right, next game, thanks,
Speaker 1: pandoff run the ball for that slashes her way to
Speaker 1: the forty five, the thirty. I don't think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: win that sandwich shop that they're gonna be in the playoffs. Wow,
Speaker 1: wlashed up the gun, foul daylight put out right, and
Speaker 1: everybody fire. Look, Cannon's can have gone all right now
Speaker 1: the handoff happens. Oh but first everybody, that's Johnson calm,
Speaker 1: friend of natives or enemy. Hey, Chris Wessling's gonna jump
Speaker 1: off and jumping in the Great Nick Show. So out
Speaker 1: one handsome bold man in another, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: all right, taking away shuck. Tom Brady got his first
Speaker 1: win with the Buccaneers, and Leonard Fournette went over a
Speaker 1: hundred yards with two touchdowns. Sen in over the Panthers shook,
Speaker 1: what a great ally we have and Nick Shook, who
Speaker 1: knows his stuff, and watched two games. First today tom
Speaker 1: Brady through for two seventy yards touchdown and a pick.
Speaker 1: How did this offense look in the second week? Again,
Speaker 1: So from the start it was really encouraging because last
Speaker 1: week and especially in the second half of New Orleans,
Speaker 1: you know, the Buccaneers almost said the Patriots, but the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers they just didn't have enough to keep pace with
Speaker 1: their NFC South rival. So then they faced another NFC
Speaker 1: South rival to day and come out of the gate firing.
Speaker 1: They scored two quick touchdowns. Tom Brady connects with Mike
Speaker 1: Evans over the middle for a long play that that's
Speaker 1: up the first touchdown, which is Ronald Jones run. He
Speaker 1: finds Mike Evans for a score. Later, they get to halftime,
Speaker 1: they're up twenty one to nothing. They're rolling and I'm
Speaker 1: expecting an absolute blowout, and then they just got a
Speaker 1: little complacent. They just hit a wall and slowly the
Speaker 1: Panthers built their way back into the game and came
Speaker 1: within a touchdown before well they realized they were the
Speaker 1: Panthers and uh and ended up flowing behind by two
Speaker 1: scores and ultimately losing. But it was it was a
Speaker 1: step in the right direction for the Buccaneers offense. But
Speaker 1: I still think they have a ways to go uh
Speaker 1: in a number of areas. And of course they were
Speaker 1: without Chris Godwin who wasn't available to play, so that
Speaker 1: definitely played a role, but a step forward that they
Speaker 1: still need to be better. But I mean, I I
Speaker 1: read that Brady was like super super zoned in all week,
Speaker 1: not surprising, like it's like the only thing he does
Speaker 1: in his life is practiced for, you know, prepare football.
Speaker 1: But but then it was like he was agitated by
Speaker 1: the narrative and what happened last week? Did you see
Speaker 1: a cleaner version of Brady? Is the chemistry improved and
Speaker 1: maybe they just lack like the killer instinct that Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick wanting to wipe out civilization has in Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: at the moment. Yeah, I think the chemistry with Mike
Speaker 1: Evans has improved. I think everybody else is a little
Speaker 1: bit of a maybe a step behind. Rob Gronkowski still
Speaker 1: looks like he's old and and didn't really factor it all.
Speaker 1: He had one target, no catches, was a non factor. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, again they were without Godwin, so that
Speaker 1: again this time next year on the islands is not
Speaker 1: gonna happen much Well, Gronck Beach version two next year.
Speaker 1: I'm sure sure there was a path to Uh. One
Speaker 1: of the backups, I can't remember the last name is
Speaker 1: Grayson that the ball went off of his helmet, and
Speaker 1: Brady was just in discuss like you've got to beginning.
Speaker 1: He said some things that I can't repeat here, but
Speaker 1: you could, yes and uh, but but ultimately yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: they still need to take those steps forward. One thing
Speaker 1: that I was encouraged by was Leonard Fournett caught a
Speaker 1: pass beyond the line of scrimmage and he actually set
Speaker 1: himself up for a rushing touchdown, which was nice. Um.
Speaker 1: And then four Nett served as the closer in the end,
Speaker 1: which was interesting. But I'm still not super impressed. You know,
Speaker 1: I know West just left. But I would agree with
Speaker 1: Wes's um summary of four Nett the last time he
Speaker 1: saw him playing the notes that he had tweeted out,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, when he gets the ball for
Speaker 1: the most party's unremarkable except for when he rips off
Speaker 1: a game ceiling forty six yard touchdown. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you want to be like this guy, yeah, you want
Speaker 1: to say he's just average, and then he ripped something
Speaker 1: off like that. All Right, I guess I have to
Speaker 1: continue to believe in him. But it was a better
Speaker 1: game than last week. Again, they were playing a lesser opponent.
Speaker 1: This this Brady versions really fascinating to me because you know,
Speaker 1: PFF ad him as having five big time throws, which
Speaker 1: you know a way that they measure things, and and
Speaker 1: from what I've seen and I thought this was the
Speaker 1: case last week. Actually the last two weeks, he's he's
Speaker 1: made a lot of flashy, really impressive throws, which I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised by. I think he was capable and did
Speaker 1: some of that last year. But the team's sloppy and
Speaker 1: like the offense doesn't have a lot of continuity. I
Speaker 1: I I I have a friend who sort of jumped
Speaker 1: to the bucks a little bit, and um, it's like
Speaker 1: they're frustrated by the coaching there. Like the like, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of penalties, it's a lot of sloppiness. It's
Speaker 1: a lot and I guess you can expect that a
Speaker 1: little early. But at least Brady is showing something that
Speaker 1: they're making some flashy plays. It's sort of the opposite
Speaker 1: of the Patriots were quietly efficient, just terribly ugly to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of on that subject, there was a play where
Speaker 1: they ran a screen to the Shawn McCoy and it
Speaker 1: went for a pretty decent game that got called back
Speaker 1: because alignman went downfield and just blocked the guy in
Speaker 1: the back, I mean, didn't need to touch the guy
Speaker 1: and blocked him the back. It's that type of discipline
Speaker 1: that they're still lacking. The one thing that kind of
Speaker 1: stuck out with me with Brady too, and Greg, I
Speaker 1: think you'll be able to offer more on this than
Speaker 1: I will. It's like a lot of his short passes
Speaker 1: that he was trying to fit to guys who weren't
Speaker 1: even really in that tight of windows. They all had
Speaker 1: like a nose dive on him. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was trying to throw passes low or not,
Speaker 1: but there were multiple times where his guys had to
Speaker 1: get down on the ground to catch passes where they
Speaker 1: literally came out of his hand at a downward angle,
Speaker 1: and that was a little concerning. Yeah, pretty much. He's
Speaker 1: a tall man, so you know it naturally goes down.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's the plan. I don't think
Speaker 1: you want that. You want the downward that was that
Speaker 1: was the analysis that you were looking for. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think Upo is back there. He's about his tail
Speaker 1: end of career. Christian McCaffrey held in check. Three point
Speaker 1: three yards per carry, held under a hundred total yards
Speaker 1: was like never happened last year. And then he went
Speaker 1: down with an injury. What are you hearing about that?
Speaker 1: What have you read? So he was questionable to return,
Speaker 1: and then with a minute and a half left in
Speaker 1: the game, out of hand, he was ruled out. You know,
Speaker 1: what's the point of that? He had left to get
Speaker 1: his ankle retaped and just never showed up again. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: they got down in the red zone again late. It
Speaker 1: was fourth and five there, down ten, and Matt rule
Speaker 1: elects to kick a field goal with less than three
Speaker 1: timeouts around two minutes left, as if he thinks he's
Speaker 1: gonna get that close to the end zone again, And
Speaker 1: of course they didn't get the onside kick, and then
Speaker 1: one touchdown run ended everything. I thought that was a
Speaker 1: little interesting, a peculiar strategy, I think for a coach
Speaker 1: who's definitely operating with less than his opponent. Conspiracy theorists
Speaker 1: might suggest he had, um, you know, some action on
Speaker 1: the game or something, but it didn't even that didn't
Speaker 1: work out, Like why are you trying to cut the
Speaker 1: lead to seven? That is an interesting um accusation that
Speaker 1: believe in that NFL coach, but emanating out of Rosenthal headquarters.
Speaker 1: No less. All right, let's move on. Golf ficks the
Speaker 1: hand off, rolls out to his right, sets his feet,
Speaker 1: throws back left over the top to the end zone.
Speaker 1: Caught by Tyler Higby. It's a three touchdown day for Higgs.
Speaker 1: There is j B long our boy for KESPN with
Speaker 1: the call Tyler Higbee. Three touchdown passes received from Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: including that twenty yard hook up in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: nineteen the Rams spanked the Eagles in Philadelphia. Completed his
Speaker 1: first thirteen passes, including a pair of tds. The Higbeet
Speaker 1: Rams jumped out to one three lead and the first
Speaker 1: half shook. It sounds like the Rams are just on
Speaker 1: a different level than the Eagles, right. This is two
Speaker 1: straight weeks for the Rams have gotten off to a
Speaker 1: hot start and their offense has been fun to watch again,
Speaker 1: which we haven't said that about them since they made
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. It felt last year like they were
Speaker 1: stuck in quicksand or mud for much of the season,
Speaker 1: and now that they don't have Todd Gurley, it seems
Speaker 1: like Sean McVeigh again feels like he has the freedom
Speaker 1: to call what he wants. One of their touchdowns was
Speaker 1: an end around or a reverse to Robert Woods for
Speaker 1: a rushing touchdown. Cooper Cup was a big part of
Speaker 1: the offense as usual, but the variety was back, and
Speaker 1: it really made it interesting and exciting to watch and
Speaker 1: it and it contrasted very well with the Eagles, who
Speaker 1: kind of just don't have an identity offensively right now,
Speaker 1: especially when they put the ball on Carson Wentz his hands.
Speaker 1: This is two straight weeks where he just hasn't looked comfortable.
Speaker 1: He hasn't made smart plays, He hasn't really made a
Speaker 1: lot of big time throws. And I think in a
Speaker 1: battle where he's facing the guy who went right ahead
Speaker 1: of him in the draft, Um, he definitely came out
Speaker 1: on the shorter rund stigma. That surprises me about um
Speaker 1: Wentz because I was so impressive what he did last
Speaker 1: year when they had all the injuries, and yet he
Speaker 1: kept on slinging it and kept on um piling up
Speaker 1: yards and and got on the page with Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: or they're able to kind of will that team to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And now with some better health, and I
Speaker 1: know they're not all the way their health wise, he
Speaker 1: seems to be kind of really stumbling, especially in the
Speaker 1: second halves of these games when they need him to
Speaker 1: make plays. You know. I think that some of his
Speaker 1: offensive lines struggles have affected him, especially last week. He
Speaker 1: got to the point where he had been sacks so
Speaker 1: many times against Washington and he was stepping into sacks
Speaker 1: and he was trying to get rid of football and
Speaker 1: I think it kind of affected his rhythm again this week,
Speaker 1: and they just again they haven't really established much of
Speaker 1: an offensive rhythm, and he just doesn't look like he's
Speaker 1: in the flow of the game, like he trying to
Speaker 1: do too much. And they were operating, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to come from behind early in this game, and
Speaker 1: I think that got him out of his flow a
Speaker 1: little bit too. And it just hasn't been a very
Speaker 1: pretty two weeks for the Eagles really, since they had
Speaker 1: got off to a nice start in Washington last week. Now,
Speaker 1: on the flip side, we talked about Jared Goff and
Speaker 1: how he started thirteen for thirteen, I'll make another video
Speaker 1: game comparison, since West did that recently with the Tech
Speaker 1: Mobil thing and Madden. Among people who play Madden, there's
Speaker 1: a thing called robot QB where a computer controlled quarterback
Speaker 1: cannot miss. He'll go perfect or near perfect for a game.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff was robot QB for almost the entire first half,
Speaker 1: which was really fun to watch. That's that's him at
Speaker 1: his best, and that's why you know, yes, things have
Speaker 1: to be right around him. In certain ways, he doesn't deal.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not going to create plays, but when
Speaker 1: he's playing well, it's pretty I mean, you can see
Speaker 1: why he was taken one and why McVeigh believes that
Speaker 1: when you're seeing the mid range game now you're seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of those twenty yard passes in this game.
Speaker 1: It was a little shorter in week one, but four
Speaker 1: different receivers with plays over twenty. I mentioned the pa
Speaker 1: Ackers having a meaningful two weeks. I mean this was
Speaker 1: a meaningful two weeks for the Rams. I think the
Speaker 1: way that these NFC West teams, because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a blood bath to try to win this division. How
Speaker 1: they manage this lousy NFC East is gonna be key.
Speaker 1: And and here the Rams start with the win over
Speaker 1: you know, presumably to the two better teams Cowboys and Eagles,
Speaker 1: right off the bat, that they're in nice shape to
Speaker 1: go four no against the NFC East. I think that's
Speaker 1: what it might take from the Seahawks and the Cardinals
Speaker 1: and and well, you know, the other NFC West team
Speaker 1: is like, you're gonna have to roll up winds uh
Speaker 1: to get into that NFC wild card to possibly win
Speaker 1: this division. And that that's a great, great start of
Speaker 1: the season for the Rams. Yeah. Another encouraging thing for
Speaker 1: the Rams going forward is their committee backfield teams to
Speaker 1: be working. They didn't have Cam acre acres today, but
Speaker 1: the other two running backs combined for a hundred twenty
Speaker 1: eight yards and a touchdown. They look effective. No matter
Speaker 1: who was back there, they still moved the ball on
Speaker 1: the ground effectively. And of course, like you said, those
Speaker 1: those short to intermediate throws. Cooper Cup thrives there and
Speaker 1: today was Tyler Higbee's day thriving there. And I think
Speaker 1: anytime you can get the tight end vaults. With that
Speaker 1: type of production, it unlocks your offense in a lot
Speaker 1: as you to reach greater heights, and I think right
Speaker 1: now they're they're trending toward that direction. It just seems
Speaker 1: like McVeigh has a lot of you know, the whole
Speaker 1: weight of having Girley in his contract a year ago,
Speaker 1: so much more flexibility with a committee backfield and using guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I see that like not eight people had
Speaker 1: rushing attempts today, So he's using people all over the place.
Speaker 1: And the emergence of the tight end position and a
Speaker 1: guy like Jefferson the rookie, the rookie wide receiver, there's
Speaker 1: just a lot of new parts. And I give McVeigh
Speaker 1: credit for essentially relaunching Rams two point oh here On offense, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson is really excited to watch. He made a
Speaker 1: nice catch early in that game down the sideline on
Speaker 1: one of their first drives that set up a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And really, um, if you if you kind of just
Speaker 1: consider this offense entirely and how they operate when you
Speaker 1: get out of this game afterward, Sean McVeigh has gotta
Speaker 1: be really excited to not have to answer questions about
Speaker 1: why Todd Brialley didn't get enough carries. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get done with the game and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be one. I don't have questions about this.
Speaker 1: I can go hang out in my l A mansion.
Speaker 1: This is great. Meanwhile, Eagles fans would have been happy
Speaker 1: and not if the Cowboys hadn't made that come back.
Speaker 1: But now that the Cowboys made that come back, this
Speaker 1: is dark in Philadelphia art. Yeah, you know it's they
Speaker 1: pumped crowd noise in. I'm pretty sure they were pumping
Speaker 1: booze in today in Philadelphia. I noticed that actually after
Speaker 1: the last Wedentz turnover in the stadium, not in the stadium. Look,
Speaker 1: I I gotta give an award of the person because
Speaker 1: that takes some guts to do that at home. You know,
Speaker 1: you're really going for realism there, so experience. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the real that's peak Philadelphia right there. And let us
Speaker 1: now move to Sunday night football. Sunday night. Damn, he's
Speaker 1: gonna take it and sbody doesn't get in and then
Speaker 1: you're gonna win the game. Line up with the power
Speaker 1: formation and you've got L. J. Collier and Leno Hill
Speaker 1: are the two guys who were there. The Seahawks defense bends,
Speaker 1: but it does not break when it matters most Al
Speaker 1: Michaels with the call for NBC Cam Newton at the
Speaker 1: goal line with a chance to win it on the
Speaker 1: final play of the game gets stuffed. Seattle Seahawks thirty five,
Speaker 1: New England Patriots thirty and another instant classic between these
Speaker 1: two teams. I don't know if they are capable of
Speaker 1: playing a boring game. Certainly was the night. This was
Speaker 1: an awesome game, um, where both teams look like we'll
Speaker 1: see them deep into January, potentially because they have a
Speaker 1: lot of things going for them, even if only one
Speaker 1: team one today, Nick Shook, Uh start with you here, Um,
Speaker 1: you are a master of the offensive line study game Shook.
Speaker 1: What what were your thoughts on that last play call?
Speaker 1: Cam is obviously feasted near the goal line this season
Speaker 1: and have that great little fake for the touchdown toss
Speaker 1: earlier in this second half, but it did not work there.
Speaker 1: I mean, as an offensive lineman, as a blocker, the
Speaker 1: number one thing you love to do is run block.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody likes to pass bot, but they love
Speaker 1: to line it up and go man on man and
Speaker 1: try to outwill your opponent move that guy? And all
Speaker 1: you gotta do is moving three feet there to create
Speaker 1: enough space for the ball carrier to get into the
Speaker 1: end zone. But unfortunately, Chris collins Worth, you know, called
Speaker 1: it prior. I mean, we all knew what was coming,
Speaker 1: and especially if you really think about it, with the
Speaker 1: stakes of this UM, I don't know if you would
Speaker 1: call it a rivalry, but the history that has been
Speaker 1: there in the past, and and the Seahawks throwing the
Speaker 1: ball on the goal line and the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: everything else that happened there, you knew the Patriots weren't
Speaker 1: going to make that mistake. They were gonna give it
Speaker 1: to Cam and try to let him do what he did.
Speaker 1: But a great job by Seattle blowing it up, you know,
Speaker 1: not allowing the fullback to kind of create the edge there,
Speaker 1: seal it off and allowed Can to try to get
Speaker 1: over the goal line. Yeah, like everyone's immediate reactors like,
Speaker 1: well I would elect to them to spread it out
Speaker 1: and then run it into like a thinner box. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: what what do you know? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: First of all, they ran those plays a million times
Speaker 1: in this game and it worked. And and their offensive
Speaker 1: line this is what I want as a fan or
Speaker 1: when I'm watching other games, go with your strength. Their
Speaker 1: offensive line and the guys who failed on that play
Speaker 1: were awesome all night. The only thing you could say
Speaker 1: that made it tougher is you know you're coming off
Speaker 1: a two straight time out, so you know, the defense
Speaker 1: did get a chance to kind of get their breadth there,
Speaker 1: get their energy up. But the seat the Seahawks won
Speaker 1: that play, Uh, it makes that that comeback um so
Speaker 1: tantalizing because for most of the second half you you
Speaker 1: had to think the Patriots, well, you just gotta hand
Speaker 1: it to them, because Russell Wilson, the touch the touchdowns
Speaker 1: that you throw were just so ridiculous that it almost
Speaker 1: felt like what a great moral victory for the Patriots
Speaker 1: that they found this quarterback Cam Newton, who is dragging
Speaker 1: a pretty lifeless group of skill position players up and
Speaker 1: down the field. I mean, has the worst group of
Speaker 1: skill position players ever put up thirty points and in
Speaker 1: whatever the yards that they put up, uh than Cam
Speaker 1: Newton and this crew in this game. Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: but once you got that close, the ball goes through
Speaker 1: Edelman's hand where they tried to uh not take the
Speaker 1: time out and then you get one or two yards
Speaker 1: short on the nikkil Harry catch. Um, it almost was
Speaker 1: an unreal comeback victory by Cam Newton. Well, I just
Speaker 1: feel like we're lucky to watch the first two Sunday
Speaker 1: night games have been two of the cleanest, most interesting
Speaker 1: games of this young season. Well, that doesn't always happen
Speaker 1: on prime time, So it was just like a thrill
Speaker 1: to sit back on the couch and watch this thing. Man,
Speaker 1: it felt like a clinic of awesome team preparation of
Speaker 1: One play that stuck out to me was when they
Speaker 1: hid Tyler lock at the Seahawks in the backfield behind
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and behind the offensive line. Yeah, as an
Speaker 1: extra as an extra wide receiver that you know, And
Speaker 1: it was, And the Patriots are so well prepared that
Speaker 1: there were guys pointing that out before the snap. I
Speaker 1: love um. And this is going to annoy a lot
Speaker 1: of people, but the Patriots are so fun to watch
Speaker 1: right now. They've shaken off some of the old, stale
Speaker 1: cobwebby vibes that felt to me just like the same
Speaker 1: team all the time. I feel like this team is
Speaker 1: heading um into They are a playoff team in my book,
Speaker 1: and they are so well coached, and the whole idea
Speaker 1: that you could just take these players and put them
Speaker 1: under a different regime. Bill Belichick is such a difference maker.
Speaker 1: And Cam Newton had a string of throws tonight that
Speaker 1: told me his arm is all the way back. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know, I'm not talking m v P.
Speaker 1: You're necessarily, but Cam Newton made some incredible throws and
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, who you know, like, put up career totals tonight. Um,
Speaker 1: they're in sync. It's just very Patriots esque. But they
Speaker 1: fought to the final final second. And I would never
Speaker 1: count this team out. The way they're constructed, the way
Speaker 1: that they operate week to week. They're just beginning to
Speaker 1: find out who they are. And Cam Newton fits. Cam
Speaker 1: look great, he really did. He looked like two thousand
Speaker 1: fifteen Cam in this game. He did. I mean he finished,
Speaker 1: should have thrown a pick six that almost happened. He
Speaker 1: had the one other interception, so he wasn't perfect, but
Speaker 1: he made so many big time throws uh in this
Speaker 1: game that again you can see it if his if
Speaker 1: his body holds up if he can do it, and
Speaker 1: he had eleven more carries today. Um, they are gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough out. They're gonna give the Bills a
Speaker 1: run for the a f c's title and they will
Speaker 1: not be an easy out in the playoffs. And it
Speaker 1: is it is interesting to me, like because the Seahawks
Speaker 1: have a great coach too. It's it's it's so especially
Speaker 1: if you root for a team that has bad coaching,
Speaker 1: like you you see it. You see how different football
Speaker 1: is when you have a team that is disciplined and
Speaker 1: understands their assignments and knows what they need to do
Speaker 1: and you see them play for each other. Uh. These
Speaker 1: are just two organizations that are to the best organizations
Speaker 1: uh in the NFL for years and years now, and
Speaker 1: that's why they play these great games. And that's why
Speaker 1: they'll both be playing in January. So yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: while I'm um fine with the Patriots losing, that's never
Speaker 1: a problem for me. You can't be two down if
Speaker 1: you're a Patriots fan today. You just can't because you
Speaker 1: know that your team is there again and this has
Speaker 1: all the ear marks again. If you keep your health
Speaker 1: of a ten to twelve win team, potential of a
Speaker 1: fun team, and you see the progress from Cam throwing
Speaker 1: the ball. But man, their their weaknesses are pretty weak.
Speaker 1: So you know, you guys are putting them in January
Speaker 1: and and coaching wise, you definitely figure that they'll figure
Speaker 1: things out as they go. And but they have absolutely
Speaker 1: no pass rush. I mean, Wilson could do what you want,
Speaker 1: and and the throws that they forced them to make,
Speaker 1: I guess maybe that they would defend that that. The
Speaker 1: David Moore catch was one of the most improbable catches
Speaker 1: you'll ever see. The DK Metcalf throw and catch for
Speaker 1: the touchdown was ridiculous. Really, all three, even the locket one,
Speaker 1: like all three of their first touchdowns were great plays
Speaker 1: by Wilson's so you hand it to him. But they
Speaker 1: have no pass rush. And I'm not kidding that Edelman.
Speaker 1: Look he he wore Jamal Adams out a little bit
Speaker 1: in coverage. But I mean their best outside receiver is
Speaker 1: Demere Bird to kill Harry cannot move. They're they're running
Speaker 1: backs went fourteen for twenty tonight. I mean, I've seen
Speaker 1: Cam Newton carry a team before, and they have a
Speaker 1: good offensive line, but it's really interesting that their weaknesses
Speaker 1: are so weak and at a certain point that that
Speaker 1: will probably be a bigger problem. I think Seahawks roster
Speaker 1: overall looks a lot better. Yeah, you know, I think
Speaker 1: he made a good point about how they have no
Speaker 1: pass rush any time they ever really got to Russell
Speaker 1: Wilsons when they brought guys down into the box who
Speaker 1: wouldn't typically be rushing, and they brought him off the
Speaker 1: edge and forced him into some situations where he realizes
Speaker 1: that's not a defensive end that he could outrun or
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, but a defensive back. But on the on
Speaker 1: the flip side, I think that Seattle surprise, and I
Speaker 1: know they gave up thirty points. I think they put
Speaker 1: together a fairly decent blueprint on how to fluster Cam
Speaker 1: Newton or fluster this offense a little bit and kind
Speaker 1: of short circuited at times. I mean, there was more
Speaker 1: than a handful of times where Cam dropped back and
Speaker 1: had pressure in his face or he had to get
Speaker 1: rid of the football and it was kind of an
Speaker 1: ugly result that usually didn't go for many yards, if
Speaker 1: any at all. And I think going forward, you know,
Speaker 1: not not including the final play, because we kind of
Speaker 1: knew how that went. But going forward, I think some
Speaker 1: teams could look at that tape and think, oh, well,
Speaker 1: maybe this is a few ways we could kind of
Speaker 1: defend them. But ultimately, like you said, you know, when
Speaker 1: you're relying on Julian Edelman to catch eight balls for
Speaker 1: a hundred seventy nine yards is the lifeblood of your offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, although you can't. You gotta have more than
Speaker 1: one option. They're so slow in the middle, like Jawan
Speaker 1: Bentley there inside lineback. It's just I'm not used to
Speaker 1: seeing like such subpar starters from the Patriots, and well,
Speaker 1: that's something that they're gonna that's something they're gonna work on.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, But I to Dan's point. When you're
Speaker 1: accustomed to watching um half baked coaches and I literally
Speaker 1: mean half big sometimes um running uh you know, middling
Speaker 1: teams there, you can point out all the weaknesses you want.
Speaker 1: And you know what, Seattle doesn't have a pass rush either.
Speaker 1: These are still two teams that I trust just to
Speaker 1: be there in the end and counteract um and find
Speaker 1: the antidote to teams that do have pass rushes. The Seattle, though,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to confuse Cam Newton
Speaker 1: and cause some of the issues you have if you
Speaker 1: don't have Jamal Adams. I mean, and and it's it's Dan,
Speaker 1: it's ponderous for you to have to hear Jamal adams siloquies.
Speaker 1: So I'll keep it short, but I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: have to say that every time you bring up Jamal Adams.
Speaker 1: Well that's why I know it's annoying to you. But
Speaker 1: it's just like annoying that you keep bringing that up.
Speaker 1: Just talking about Jamal Adams. It's fine. Well, I think
Speaker 1: he's incredible and like I think for Seattle to be
Speaker 1: plugged into the right scheme, he's worth whatever they gave
Speaker 1: for him. He wouldn't have been worth it if you
Speaker 1: went to the you know, some other, some other operation
Speaker 1: for two high picks like that. But Seattle, um, who
Speaker 1: you know. It was like, oh, he'll be bored there.
Speaker 1: I didn't look bored to me. He looked um. He
Speaker 1: looked completely on fire, and he changes that defense entirely.
Speaker 1: They'd be they'd be in hot water without him, I
Speaker 1: mean distinctively. Two other points on the Seahawks that jumped
Speaker 1: out to me. You mentioned Metcalf DK Metcalf holding his
Speaker 1: own and then some against the reigning the Fensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year stuff on glor He's metcalf is a
Speaker 1: special talent and he has the perfect quarterback to maximize
Speaker 1: his skill set. And speaking of that quarterback, Ricky Hollywood
Speaker 1: is a little annoyed before we started rolling here that
Speaker 1: the telecast is giving so much shine to Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: as a potential m v P guy. The reason that's
Speaker 1: the case is that he's essentially a perfect quarterback. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson is a perfect quarterback. Even his one mistake today
Speaker 1: was a pick six that was on the tight end,
Speaker 1: not on Russell Wilson. I think he might be the
Speaker 1: most under celebrated great quarterback of my lifetime. I think
Speaker 1: he's just a first ballot Hall of Famer smack in
Speaker 1: the middle of his prime. I think he's mastered the position,
Speaker 1: and what we saw today he was just another clinic.
Speaker 1: But he's better now than he's ever been. I think
Speaker 1: he's a key. I don't think everyone knows Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: I don't know he's been a top three quarters. That's
Speaker 1: kind of like think he should have never gotten him
Speaker 1: v you vote, tell me the year where he was
Speaker 1: the m v P the only vote for one person
Speaker 1: right now playing it at a higher level than anyone
Speaker 1: can possibly play. I totally agree with he's been doing. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: He's been a great quarterback for years. But there's something
Speaker 1: right now watching him. It's he's masterful. And I think
Speaker 1: that you cannot count Seattle out when you have someone
Speaker 1: that has mastered that position and they're right at the
Speaker 1: peak of their powers, and they are. Their offense has changed,
Speaker 1: they are, they're real so far about letting him you know,
Speaker 1: because the point it almost cost him the game. They
Speaker 1: let him throw the ball in third and one deep
Speaker 1: and they went for it. So I don't problem with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're like every other throw tonight. That's why
Speaker 1: I give you give him the benefit of the doubt, Like,
Speaker 1: all right, he tried to win it there, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? I'm sorry, but this, like, there is
Speaker 1: this thing on the minute they the minute the broadcast
Speaker 1: made the m v P comment how he's never gotten
Speaker 1: a vote there it's so twitter but it was like, well,
Speaker 1: he never deserved an m v P vote. Sorry, Like
Speaker 1: I'd have no problem with someone over one of these years,
Speaker 1: saying Russell Wilson is an m v P level quarterback.
Speaker 1: Every year. I get that there are people in his way,
Speaker 1: like last year who it's like then you asked the
Speaker 1: person what year, what have you voted for him? And
Speaker 1: there isn't there. Well, I'll go back and I'll go
Speaker 1: back and find a year. I just don't think it's
Speaker 1: judge whether a quarterback is truly one of the all
Speaker 1: time greats by some dope m v P tropes like,
Speaker 1: that's not really what it's about. Shook, you get the
Speaker 1: last word. Well, I can't kill them for throwing that
Speaker 1: on third one because that's the same play that they
Speaker 1: ran to beat Filly in the playoffs last year. It
Speaker 1: just didn't work out this time. But you know what,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson might not be underrated, but you know what
Speaker 1: he is on limited very well, that's how you fun
Speaker 1: a tap on a great Week two recap and Shook.
Speaker 1: I know it's late where you are, it's right around midnight,
Speaker 1: but this is some characters like you. This is when
Speaker 1: you get your pumping right. This is a good time
Speaker 1: to get a little yoked and and it tells the
Speaker 1: body never rest, never, never take it easy. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the gym is not open right now. But if
Speaker 1: it was, and yeah, I'd be there. I've had he
Speaker 1: had been, I've had a key to a gym and
Speaker 1: been there overnight making those noises. Yeah please those noises,
Speaker 1: especially that last one. Yeah, thats like have you passed
Speaker 1: your bowels on the gym before? All right, that's uh,
Speaker 1: thank you Nick Shook for helping us out and uh
Speaker 1: reminder that we'll be back on Tuesday with I believe
Speaker 1: Colleen Wilf will be sitting in the Chris Westling chair
Speaker 1: as the plan so look forward to that as we
Speaker 1: turn our attention to week three. Will also be of
Speaker 1: course on Tuesday recapping Monday Night Football, the matchup between
Speaker 1: well it's the same thing. Yeah, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: From the Death Star. This is Dan Hansons signing off
Speaker 1: for Nick Shook, the Mailman and Absentia the Old Boss,
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm and Ricky Hollywood from what's called World Don't
Speaker 1: Do the Night Who