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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey, juky, I'm really

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Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I know, said las Nandas. Hey boo, it's me Roz

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where

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Speaker 1: I talk to people that I like about the paranormal

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Speaker 1: and I get to talk to you people because it's

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Speaker 1: another listener phone call extravaganza. These people really brought it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: First up, we've got Leah, who even has a little

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Speaker 1: Teresa Capudo experience, which you know are my favorites. So

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Speaker 1: let's get into Leah because she's got quite a few

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Speaker 1: on with the show. Oh my god, I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: It's Leah from New York. Kai, Hey, raz Okay, these stories,

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Speaker 1: which one do we start with?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to start with my dead friend who played

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Speaker 2: a prank on me.

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Speaker 1: Love that.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty fun story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I know, as like dark as it

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Speaker 1: is or however people want to view whatever. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait until I am a ghost that can play pranks

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Speaker 1: at my friends.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I know you will, so I mean listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want that to happen. Yet

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Speaker 1: God or whoever if you're hearing me, Not yet, but

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Speaker 1: when it's time, Oh, you're gonna think it was an

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Speaker 1: episode of PUNKD.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you can be inspired by my friend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what happened. So this is.

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Speaker 2: Somebody that I grew up with, and he passed away

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Speaker 2: a few years ago, and I attended his funeral. We

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Speaker 2: weren't besties, but I knew him pretty well, and we

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Speaker 2: were actually neighbors growing up, and we had our first

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Speaker 2: job together. And he was a prankster in life. He

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Speaker 2: was the class clown. He was always playing tricks, playing jokes,

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Speaker 2: and he even was known to start like fires, not

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Speaker 2: big ones, but he was a real prankster. And about

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Speaker 2: a week after his funeral, I was walking in our

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Speaker 2: few times I had seen him. I went to the

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Speaker 2: coffee shop and chatted with him, and he was there

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Speaker 2: at the counter. So I walked into the coffee shop

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Speaker 2: and of course I was thinking about him and the

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Speaker 2: girls behind the counter they were like teenagers. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know them, and I ordered a pastry, and of course

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about my friend and you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: picturing him there. They put the pastry into the toaster,

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Speaker 2: which I think is really part of the craziness of it,

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Speaker 2: because these girls were freaking out trying to stop the fire.

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Speaker 2: They're saying, this has never happened before. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: they're freaking out because they have a fire, and I

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Speaker 2: I had to duck down and hide my face because

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Speaker 2: I couldn't stop laughing. And I was like, Nick, you

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Speaker 2: And then I told my friends who knew his parents,

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Speaker 1: Oh I bet you. He made those teenage girls lives

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Speaker 1: a living hell, like he was probably doing all kinds

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Speaker 1: and you know, doing all kinds of shit.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he did.

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Speaker 1: Oh so that's.

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Speaker 2: My first little story. Okay, my stories are pretty sweet,

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: My second one involves Terresa.

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Speaker 1: Kopudo Stop the magic word.

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Speaker 2: The magic Word. So I listened to her podcast, Hey

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Speaker 2: Spirit pretty regularly. I've listened to over the years just

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Speaker 2: who I was very close with. And then Teresa said,

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Speaker 2: Teresa said, oh, that must be for a listener, and

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Speaker 2: never heard Teresa Computo say that before that that must

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Speaker 1: I need to do stuff like that. I need to

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Speaker 2: I liked it. So my next little story is about

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Speaker 2: she and my dad got married pretty young, and then

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Speaker 2: But the story goes that my mom went to the

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Speaker 2: years later, she said, my birthday January ninth, nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: What. Yeah, So the whole family still has a relationship

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Speaker 2: Well, we've all been to her at least once, me,

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. She was having a good day that day.

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Speaker 1: She was Now, when you've gone to her, as she

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Speaker 2: She mostly has read like just things about my current life,

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Speaker 2: so that doesn't sound as crazy. But she did predict

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Speaker 2: the exact time that she got predicted.

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Speaker 1: She's pretty so that's her main thing, is like predictions

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Speaker 2: I don't know she'd know. Her main thing was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to read about your family dynamics. She read

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Speaker 2: But I thought their predictions were the spookiest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I also went to a medium last week.

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Speaker 2: I think the timing of this call is pretty cool

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Speaker 2: because I just went to a medium just last week

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Speaker 2: and my therapist actually recommended that I go to a medium. Really,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Yes, I said thank you to my therapist.

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Speaker 2: She said, you know what you should do this January.

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Speaker 2: You should go to a medium.

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Speaker 1: So how did you find this one?

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Speaker 2: From my therapist? She said, this is a medium you

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Speaker 1: Those two our working together.

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Speaker 2: she was really and she the first one who came

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Speaker 2: from the Teresa Corpedo reading.

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Speaker 1: She's like, oh my god, did you hear me on

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Speaker 2: Yup exactly. She needs to be the center of attention,

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Speaker 2: and so she came right through. And the way that

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Speaker 2: who she was. And she talked so so so much.

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Speaker 2: She said she wouldn't stop talking. She talked about my mom,

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Speaker 2: her personality was incredibly accurate. And then I had to

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Speaker 2: she only the medium goes, okay, she moved over one

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Speaker 2: appeared in this reading. Oh wow, because my grandma wouldn't

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Speaker 2: the medium was like, what is happening? And then I said, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right now. So I didn't say anything about my dad,

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Speaker 2: come through, and he was a very hesitant, skeptical guy,

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Speaker 2: and so it took the medium a little bit. But

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Speaker 2: then she kind of started channeling him and then she said, okay,

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Speaker 2: does the number three mean anything to you? And I said, yes,

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Speaker 2: that's my dad's birthday and also my mom's birthday, and

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Speaker 2: she goes, okay. He liked that. He realized he could

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Speaker 2: channel numbers through me, and so then after he channeled

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Speaker 2: the number three, he started talking a whole lot. So

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Speaker 2: then he was telling me all lovely things about his life,

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Speaker 2: my family, and his big lesson to me was keep

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Speaker 2: talking to me because I can hear you and I

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Speaker 2: want to help you out with stuff.

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Speaker 1: According to this medium, the spirit world really can help

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Speaker 1: you out with big things, small things.

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Speaker 1: Ah, I love it.

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Speaker 4: He does now, because you know, I finally broke down

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Speaker 4: So walking through the gym, and I just felt like

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00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 4: something did not want me there, right, But of course,

438
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 4: you know, I'm in my early twenties. I think I'm

439
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: all macho, So I'm kind of like putting this off

440
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 4: to the side and I just continue walking through despite

441
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 4: being like, yeah, something does not want me walking through here.

442
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: So I went back and I put everything back in

443
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 4: the closet, and of course to get back outside, I

444
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: have to go through the gym. Even though it creached

445
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 4: me out, I didn't have keys to go a different route,

446
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: so walked into the gym and I got that feel again,

447
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 4: but it was even worse at that time. So I'm

448
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 4: kind of like picking up the pace. A little bit.

449
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 4: About ten feet behind me, I hear the gym floor creak.

450
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 4: I quickly jerk behind. Didn't see anything in my head.

451
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 4: I just heard a rough, manly voice saying get out.

452
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: And it was weird because I didn't hear it, but

453
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 4: it was definitely inside my head. So I just start

454
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 4: sprinting out of that gym. I don't care what cameras

455
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: on me. I don't care who or what might be watching.

456
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 4: I just got out of there. I got back out

457
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 4: to the buses, and I'm white as a ghost.

458
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: Right.

459
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 4: I couldn't explain what I felt, but it was one

460
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: of those things where it was just like, I want

461
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: you out of here.

462
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, wait, this is the story you said was

463
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: spooky but fun. Uh that's terrifying.

464
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 4: Well, in hindsight, it's fun because it happened in a

465
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 4: location that's far far away from me, and I know

466
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: it's not following me.

467
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: Around, Okay, Okay, I guess. So it was just yeah

468
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: the one time, but yeah, there's something about an empty

469
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: gym in the dark that is really scary.

470
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 4: Yeah. And it was still like looked like it was

471
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 4: in the nineteen seventies, so it's so hot, like the

472
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: wooden bleachers, and it was still very like old and creaky,

473
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 4: and it was just something about that wide open space

474
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: and whatever was in there hiding in the dark was like, yep,

475
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: I don't want this guy anywhere near here.

476
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh God, it's probably some old jock, some old jock

477
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: ghost that's just like Gary.

478
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: Right, And I was still in the closet at this point,

479
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: so it probably knew like, uh, yep, I don't want

480
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 4: this guy anywhere near here.

481
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me one more? Do you have one more

482
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: for us?

483
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: So I do have one more now, this one. I

484
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: kind of put myself in this situation.

485
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: What is your deal? Man?

486
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: I don't know. I've been asked myself that question for

487
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 4: many years.

488
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: But you know what, it makes for a great podcast conversation, right.

489
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 4: So there is some benefits out of it. So this story,

490
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: which is another little spooky vignette. So I was driving

491
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: home from college, so once again from Southwest Virginia to

492
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 4: northern Virginia. And there's two different paths I can take right,

493
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: I can either take the interstate or it can take

494
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 4: back roads. And during this time, I would always drive

495
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: at night because I'm more of a night out anyways,

496
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: I didn't want to deal with traffic. So this particular night,

497
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: I decided to go the back way. And I don't

498
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 4: know why, but it was around like late September, early October,

499
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 4: so I wanted to get in the like the spooky vibes.

500
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 4: So I was playing like scary ambient music, so like

501
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: the music like you would hear like in a haunted house.

502
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 4: As I'm driving these back roads in the middle of

503
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: southwest Virginia at night, and I get to a point

504
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: where I had to go a detour right because the

505
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 4: road was closed. And keep in mind this was during

506
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: a period of time where phone GPS wasn't that great,

507
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: and the route it took me in like up around

508
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: this mountain, the cell phone service was non existent. So

509
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: I'm getting up there and I'm just looking for another

510
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: detour sign and it's the middle of the woods. And

511
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: the way this road is situated is so it's on

512
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: the side of the mountain, so like the mountain came down,

513
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 4: it leveled off just for the road, and then it

514
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: dipped pretty steeply into this ra being so woods on

515
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 4: all sides. It's probably around one forty five two am

516
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: in the morning. I have my high beams on, and

517
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: way out in front of me, I see this just darkness, right,

518
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 4: and it's pitch black outside, but there's this one spot

519
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: that seems a lot darker than the rest of it.

520
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: So as I'm pulling forward, I slowed down because I'm

521
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: thinking it's a deer, so I'm being very cautious but

522
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 4: as I move up to it and my high beams

523
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: are on, it starts to develop more of a shape.

524
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: And I got to the point where it's just right

525
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: side or right outside my high beams, and it looks

526
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 4: like a figure of a person that's standing right there

527
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: on the side of the road. You know, it was

528
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 4: a clear seat. It's it's head, its shoulders, and then

529
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: it kind of fades into what seemed like legs, but

530
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: his legs were kind of like covered up by like

531
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: some bushes. So I'm sitting there and I'm staring at it.

532
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: Keep in mind, I have this scary ambient music playing

533
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: through my car speakers.

534
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy that you have that music going.

535
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: Right, And I think I was just inviting whatever it

536
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: was because I put myself in that situation and I'm

537
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: staring at it because I'm trying to figure out what

538
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: this is. My brain is not quite processing. Next thing,

539
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: you know, I see it starting to lean over into

540
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: the road, and it was very slowly, but very methodical,

541
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 4: to the point where I can clearly see the shape

542
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: of a head and some shoulders. So probably about another

543
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: twenty seconds i'm staring at it, I see another cars

544
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: like Hypians coming in my rear view mirror, coming from

545
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: a distance. So I look up see cars coming and

546
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: then I look back into the road and whatever that

547
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: figure is is gone. It just couldn't explain it, and

548
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: you know, I want it to. So when I came back,

549
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: you know, it was going back to college, I took

550
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: that exact same road and I found the spot I

551
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: was at, and I couldn't recreate it. There was no

552
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: sign there, there was no tree or log or anything

553
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 4: shaped like a person. And then I went and I

554
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: googled shadowed people and google image church and there's a

555
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: lot of photos and those photos look exactly what I

556
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: saw there. So I don't know what creepy ghost or

557
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: whatever I was inviting in that night, but I was

558
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: probably like, Oh, this guy wants to be scared. I'll

559
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: give him something to be scared about.

560
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were doing you a favor. I think it

561
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: is all the same person. I think the guy from

562
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: the dagger is also the guy that was in the gym,

563
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: and is that guy as well. I think you just

564
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: have some some spooky spirit that's attached to you.

565
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too. And Hey, it's like, I

566
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: don't know why you're so obsessed with me, like hopefully,

567
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: like one of these days I can pass them off

568
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 4: to somebody else.

569
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of flattering, I guess. Yeah. When I did

570
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: that road trip last year across America, I purposely made

571
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: sure I did not do any driving at nighttime because

572
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want anything like that happening. Like literally as

573
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: soon as the sun was down, I was in a

574
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: hotel because I did not want to end up in

575
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere and have to take back roads

576
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: and have to take detours. Because one time I was

577
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: driving myself a couple of years ago and I got

578
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: lost in a cornfield in Nebraska, and that was the

579
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: scariest thing I have ever got. Like a cornfield. I

580
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: had no clue how terrifying they are.

581
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 4: Right, that's even more terrifying than the woods, in my opinion,

582
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: because there's a lot more like weird places you can

583
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: hide there.

584
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, I hate all that stuff. Anyway, I love

585
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: these stories. These are good. Well, I guess that's it.

586
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for doing this awesome.

587
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: Well, thank you Roz so much for having me. It

588
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: was great talking with you.

589
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, William. I got the Heabie gbs on that

590
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: one Okay, we've got one more for you. And this

591
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: one actually, you know what, also kind of spooky. What

592
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: are the chances here's Madeline. Stop, it's Madeline in Vegas.

593
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: Helloas what is it like living in Vegas? And also

594
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: do you feel like there's an energy in Vegas?

595
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 4: Oh?

596
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's hot, it's glamorous, it's haunted.

597
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: You like it?

598
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: I love it?

599
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? For some reason, I'm like, there's a thing on

600
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: TikTok for me where people people that hate Las Vegas

601
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: is what I see a lot of. Like I'll see

602
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: people that are like, I think the devil is in

603
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and I'm always like, let me, let me

604
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 1: hear those I'm curious. And then so now I'm like,

605
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: I think the devil's in Vegas.

606
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: I mean, the devil's probably here, but I think that's

607
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: why it's so much fun.

608
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: What since city it's a party.

609
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 3: Town, that's all we do.

610
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, okay, so these stories that I am reading

611
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: right here, apparently you are your grandmother possibly.

612
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: Apparently allegedly so. My mom and her grandma were incredibly

613
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 3: close her whole life. They've lived in like a multi

614
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: generational home, shared a room, just incredibly close and it

615
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: always breaks my heart that we really just missed each

616
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: other by a few weeks. Really, so I was due

617
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: towards the end of February, like the last week of February.

618
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 3: My actual birthday is March tenth, but in the last

619
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: week of February, my mom had felt like she was

620
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: starting to go into labor, so she started to prepare

621
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: for my arrival, and then somewhere along the line and

622
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: she got the phone call out. Unfortunately, her grandmother passed away,

623
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: and my mom describes the moment as it was like

624
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: time times said still she didn't feel the contractions anymore.

625
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: She almost felt like she didn't even feel me anymore inside.

626
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: It was really devastating for her and really hard for

627
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: her to get through it. And then two weeks later

628
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: I arrived, which funny enough, was actually a week before

629
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 3: her grandmother's birthday, so she even thought I was going

630
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: to stick around to be born on her grandmother's birthday,

631
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: which is a spooky little coincidence there. But my mom

632
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: actually didn't even tell me this until a few months ago.

633
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: She said that there was an interaction we had when

634
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: I was little where my mom always wanted to tell

635
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: me about her Grandma wanted to make sure that even

636
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: though I didn't get to meet her in person, I

637
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 3: always knew about her, was told these stories and stuff

638
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 3: like that. And she said that there was one day

639
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: she was telling me a story while I was playing,

640
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: and I stopped what I was doing, and I turned

641
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: and I looked at her, and I said, why are

642
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: you telling me that I'm her? I remember? And then

643
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: I went back to playing with whatever I was playing with.

644
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: And my mom told me that the moment stunned her

645
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: so much she didn't ask any further questions. She didn't

646
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: follow up, just kind of watch me with a little

647
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 3: side eye to see if I was going to say

648
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: anything else. But she said, that's like the one major

649
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: instance that stands out in my childhood of me just

650
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: directly telling her, what are you talking about? I remember?

651
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have any memories that you

652
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: didn't actually live like? I don't know. Is there any

653
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: reason that you might think as an adult that that's

654
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: still true or what are your thoughts?

655
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what's funny is I have always been

656
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 3: I've always gotten that I'm an old soul, even when

657
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: I was younger, I've always been told that I'm an

658
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: old soul. I always get told like it seems like

659
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 3: you've been here before, which seems like a very spooky

660
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: way to say that to someone. But as far as

661
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: memories specifically with her, nothing that I've noticed myself, But

662
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 3: my mom says that she's noticed little personality traits between us,

663
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: like both of us are very you know, quiet, and

664
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: like kind of public settings we like kind of a

665
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: little bit more like glamorous things, like will gravitate towards

666
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: something that's a little bit more gold and sparkly and

667
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: kind of like that old style like glamour. So my

668
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: mom said she's always noticed like little things like that

669
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: with me, And she did also say for about six

670
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: months after I was born, she had these really vivid

671
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: dreams that she knew were dreams. She never saw an apparition,

672
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: but she said she would dream of my grandma like

673
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 3: checking on me in the crib, or laying down next

674
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: to me in the bed, or holding my hand and

675
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So unfortunately, nothing that I can really remember,

676
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 3: but my mom said that the feeling lasted for months

677
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: after even I was born.

678
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: I believe it way I got my gavel, I'm calling it.

679
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: You are your great grandmother.

680
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: Hey, I'll take it. She sounded like a nice lady.

681
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: I'll take it.

682
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me more.

683
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see. So kind of tying into that, Interestingly enough,

684
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: my aunt also passed away when I was thirteen. I

685
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: took it really hard. It was the first kind of

686
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: like major loss that I experienced, and for months after

687
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: her passing, I would dream that I felt her next

688
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 3: to me, laying down next to me, holding my hand,

689
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 3: and I never saw an apparition, but it was always

690
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: this weird halfway dream state. I'm not sure if I'm sleeping,

691
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I'm awake, but I would wake

692
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 3: up and it was almost like my hand was curled,

693
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: as if I had been holding hands with someone. And

694
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: I would wake up like that a lot. And I

695
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: remember telling my mom that, and my mom got really

696
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: teary eyed about it and said, oh my gosh, I

697
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: used to have dreams about you and your great grandmother

698
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: like that after she passed. So I always thought that

699
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: was interesting that the first like major loss I experienced,

700
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: I had a similar kind of dream pattern afterwards. Yeah,

701
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: but about six months to a year after her passing,

702
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: I just kind of suddenly stopped feeling it, so I thought,

703
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: maybe she moves on, you know, maybe there's another realm

704
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: you go to. Afterwards, I found out about six years

705
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: later from my mom that my mom actually had a

706
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: cleansing ritual done because there was a dark entity that

707
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: was attached to her and her grief. So my mom,

708
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: in processing the passing of her sister, was feeling really heavy,

709
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 3: to the point of feeling sick, like feeling like there

710
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: was just this dark cloud on her. She didn't feel well,

711
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: she felt like her health was getting worse, and so

712
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: she reached out to one of her friends who's a spiritualist,

713
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: and her friend came over and said that she could

714
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: see this dark entity latched onto my mom, feeding off

715
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: of her grief and almost provoking this grief from her

716
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: so it could continue to feed off of her. And

717
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: her friend also said that she could see my aunt

718
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: in the space as well, and that my aunt was

719
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: ready to move on, had said her goodbyes, was ready

720
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: to go to the next realm, but didn't feel safe

721
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: doing so because she feared that this dark entity was

722
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: basically going to consume my mom. And so they went

723
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 3: through this whole ritual and it was a long multi

724
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: day like you have to keep up with burning of

725
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: like Apollo song, so incense, a black salt in the doorways,

726
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: wiping down the door handles with like a Florida water

727
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: or holy water, stuff like that, basically until this entity

728
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 3: went away. And then her friend you know, came over

729
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: again to see how my mom was doing and saw

730
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: that the entity had less and then my aunt kind

731
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: of said like her final goodbyes and moved on as well.

732
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: And I didn't know it at the time, but in

733
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: hearing this story from my mom years later, the timelines

734
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 3: line up of when I stopped feeling like I felt

735
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: my aunt's presence and this cleansing had happened, and I

736
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: just thought it was so interested, And I saw with

737
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: my mom myself, why did you never tell me that

738
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: this happened, Like that's so yeah, I guess you didn't

739
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 3: want to freak me out just because I was young, right,

740
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, I always thought that was really interesting too,

741
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: that I had felt her for such a long time

742
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: and then eventually she was able to move on. She

743
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: felt like we were safe enough to move on.

744
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: I loved that. It's lucky that the spooky entity didn't

745
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: come after you I know you didn't even know it

746
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: was happening, and under your own roof. That's crazy.

747
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: I know. I always wonder if maybe my aunt stayed

748
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: around to protect my mom, and maybe I am the

749
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: reincarnation of my great grandmother, so I always already had

750
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: that spiritual protection on me.

751
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: Yes, the ladies, Yeah, so is your mom, you know,

752
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: into this kind of stuff.

753
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: She definitely is. Yeah, Yeah, my mom's a big believer,

754
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: definitely very spiritual. I've had multiple kinds of instances, especially

755
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: since I moved out of the house. I had this

756
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: one in particular when I was about twenty two years old.

757
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: It was my first time living completely by myself, no roommates,

758
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: just me and my cat in a one bedroom, one

759
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: bass apartment, and I was sitting at the dining room

760
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: table with my back open to the living room. I

761
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: was probably eating or something like that, and distinctly, I

762
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: always have chills thinking about it now. Distinctly, I fell

763
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: over my left shoulder a man go kind of like

764
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: a clearing your voice behind my shoulder. I remember feeling

765
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 3: the breast on my neck. I remember the slightest blow

766
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: of my hair over my shoulder and just that sound,

767
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 3: I know, just just that sounds so distinctly in my ear.

768
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 3: And I had heard from other friends who also believe

769
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: in in spirits and entities, that if you experience that,

770
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: you should tell them that they're not welcome here, you know,

771
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: tell them they can't stay here, They're not welcome in

772
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: your home. So when I turned around and I saw

773
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: that nothing was there, immediately I said, you're not welcome here.

774
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 3: You can't stay in my home. You have to leave

775
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: me alone. I go to bed. Don't think I slept,

776
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: I kept the lights on. I was absolutely terrified. But

777
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: I did call my mom the next morning, and something

778
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: I super appreciate about my mom, she didn't even doubt

779
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: me for a second. My mom immediately jumped into action.

780
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: She said, I got a friend. Let me call my

781
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: friend for you.

782
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Was it the same friend from when you were thirteen.

783
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 3: The same exact friend. Yeah, it was the same exact friend.

784
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 3: And that's actually this friend coming to do a cleansing

785
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 3: for me is the only reason I found out that

786
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: this cleansing happened when I was thirteen. I don't know

787
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: if my mom would have ever told me, but it

788
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: was the same friend. And so she came to my

789
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: apartment kind of checks out the situation for me, and

790
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: she said what she saw was more of a lost spirit.

791
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: She didn't sense any malice or bad intention or anything

792
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: like that. I also lived on a large apartment complex

793
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: on a busy street, so she said, I don't even

794
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: think that this entity died necessarily in your apartment, and

795
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: I think they're lost. I think either they died in

796
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: the street or another unit, and they just don't know

797
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: where they are and how to get out. So she

798
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: had another type of ritual for me as well. That

799
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: was the same thing, cleansing my doors, cleansing my windows,

800
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: burning of the incense. And then she told me I

801
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: could still interact with the entity, but I could be

802
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: a little more gentle instead of demanding you can't stay

803
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 3: here and you have to leave.

804
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that poor guy, he's probably just like looking her out.

805
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: Let me clear my throat, and then you're just like,

806
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: get the.

807
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: Fuck out right. He's lost, and I'm like, you can't

808
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: stay here, you have to take that somewhere else. So

809
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: I was able to a little more gently just you know, say,

810
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: I tried to be reassuring, you can move on, you're safe,

811
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: to leave this space, stuff like that, and then I

812
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: want to say, about two or three months later, she

813
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: came back and she said that she didn't feel anything.

814
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: I didn't feel anything passed that moment either, even in

815
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: the moments when I was like interacting and gently encouraging

816
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: this sensity to leave. But it was. It's startling when

817
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: you live by yourself and you experience something like that.

818
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: So I'm forever grateful that it wasn't, you know, a

819
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: negative energy or anything like that. But that was the

820
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: most distinct like interaction I think I've ever felt with

821
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: a spirit.

822
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: WHOA Okay, tell us one more.

823
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So my last one is when I was living

824
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, I lived in I would say, a

825
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: pretty haunted apartment. Me and my roommate Michelle lived together

826
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: and Ouki suoky. Things started pretty much from the moment

827
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 3: we moved in. We were in Burbank.

828
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: Okay love, Yeah, yeah.

829
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: We were in Burbank. One of the first things I

830
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: remember happening is we would hear our names being called.

831
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: And she had told me that she was taught from

832
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 3: her mother that if you are confident that you're home alone,

833
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: no one else is there, and you hear your name

834
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: specifically called, not to interact because it could be a

835
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: negative entity trying to interact with you, trick you, get you,

836
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: something like that. So we never interacted with it, but

837
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: we would hear it. And what was even scarier is

838
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: the voice adapted into our voices. So it started at first,

839
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: I hear you know, Madeline, kind of in the distance,

840
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 3: kind of indistinct. I can't really identify it. As time

841
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: went on, we lived in that apartment together, I want

842
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: to say for about three years. As time went on,

843
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 3: I heard her voice calling my name.

844
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't trust that it was.

845
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: It was very scary. I'd have to get up and

846
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: if I heard her calling me from the kitchen, I

847
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: would get up and I'd look around the corner and

848
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: just make sure, okay, am I actually home alone right now?

849
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: Because the voice started to morph and sound like each other.

850
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: But we would often have dreams that were kind of

851
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: like synchronized with each other. We always dreamt about our apartment,

852
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: and we always dreamt about something like an entity. So

853
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: I remember one in particular I had that truly scared

854
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: me so bad. I remember waking up and I must

855
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: have been crying in my sleep because my eyes were wet.

856
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: They were even like a little puffy and red like

857
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: I had been crying. But I had this dream that

858
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: I was terrified of something in my closet, that I

859
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: knew something was in my closet. I was too scared

860
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: to check it out. I had a friend try to

861
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: come check it out too, they were too scared. So eventually,

862
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: in my dream, I opened the door of my closet

863
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: and I look inside and there's this figure that's floating,

864
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: long black hair that's just kind of floating around her.

865
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: She's not facing me. It wasn't you. I would have

866
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: been honored if.

867
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: It was I got lost. I was in Burbank and

868
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: I got lost.

869
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: I would have been honored if it was you. I know,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been this scared if it was you.

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00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, the figure wasn't facing me, and I just

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00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: I just felt like, you know, your heart dropping for

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00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: your stomach, just like such instant fear. And then the

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00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: figure turns towards me and my dream and has no face.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was definitely not me.

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00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: No eyes, no glasses, no mugs, you know what I mean.

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00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: There was no features to this figure. Absolutely terrified me.

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00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 3: That was the moment that I woke up. I just

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00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: shocked myself awake. I had to wake myself up. So

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00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 3: the next day we're having breakfast talking about stuff, and

881
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: I say, well, I just have the craziest dream last night.

882
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: I have to tell you about it. I'm telling her,

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00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: step by step the entire part of the dream, everything,

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00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: and I get to the part where I talk about

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00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: the figure in the closet, and right before I can

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00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 3: say it, I say, the figure starts to turn around

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00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: and Michelle cuts me off and she goes, she didn't

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00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: have a face, did she? And again heart drops to

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00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 3: my stomach. I said, Michelle, how do you know that?

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00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: And she said, because I had the same dream last night.

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00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: She was in my closet too. It was terrifying. And

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00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 3: dreams like that used to happened to us all the time,

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00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: you know, we dream about someone knocking on the door

894
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: and we'd go answer it and no one was there.

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00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: But that was the first time that both of us

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00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: truly saw, like us figure on entity in our dreams,

897
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: and it was this. We described her exactly the same

898
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 3: to each other.

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Speaker 1: And then did you just like deal with it until

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00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: you moved out, or did you call your mom's friend

901
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: or what?

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00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: So, when we were living in La Michelle's mom is

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00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: very religious. She would often come over to our house

904
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: with holy water, and again, I'm so grateful that she's

905
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: deeply a believer too. She fully believed in ghosts and

906
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: spirits and apparitions however you want to call them. So

907
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: anytime we had an instance like that, she was ready.

908
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 3: She would throw up to our doors. She would have

909
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: the holy water, she would walk around. She was Salvadorian.

910
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 3: She would walk around and say her prayers for us

911
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: and bless our space. And it was it felt like

912
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: it would work for a time. We would go through

913
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: a solid three, four or five months without anything happening,

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00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden we'd hear our names

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00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: or it always always started with the names being called.

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00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: Oh God, the holy water would wear off, it would.

917
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was only holy for a short

918
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: period of time, and then then they would always come back.

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Speaker 1: That is spooky. Well, hey, you gave it to us.

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00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: These are great stories. Thank you so much for doing this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, this is so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Leah William and Madelyne. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know you could, you could be just like all

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00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: of these amazing listeners. Send me an email Ghosted by

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00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: ros at gmail dot com is the email address right

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Speaker 1: listener episode in the subject line, and then bullet points,

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Speaker 1: you know, just like one sentence or so of all

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Speaker 1: your different stories, so you could be like, uh, one

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Speaker 1: time when I was living in LA I had a

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00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: ghost that was in a dream with my roommate. Like

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Speaker 1: that's all. That's all we need, just that kind of

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Speaker 1: a thing, and I would look forward to reading it

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Speaker 1: and talking to you on the show. Okay, that's about

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00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: enough out of me. Thank you all so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me,

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Speaker 1: kay by. This has been an exactly right production. Want

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Speaker 1: to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read

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Speaker 1: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so

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Speaker 1: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by

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00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:34,480
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