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Speaker 3: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 3: Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4: And with the two hundred and fifty eighth pick of
Speaker 4: the eighth round of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft,
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys select Ezekiel Elliott, running back the Ohio
Speaker 4: State University. That's news today. Welcome to mckshots inside the
Speaker 4: SWBC pot Cast studio. Old, do we ever have a
Speaker 4: lot to get to today?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all the matters is that's what you just said.
Speaker 2: That's so funny. That's all that matters to me.
Speaker 5: They finally listened to us a year later.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 4: And the timing of it. I hear people on the
Speaker 4: radio already saying, well, that's because they didn't get a
Speaker 4: running back in the draft, and that's why. And it's
Speaker 4: the day after the draft, first day of business after
Speaker 4: the draft. They're signing Zeke Well, as Mickey will quickly
Speaker 4: point out, this is an important day as far as
Speaker 4: signing free agents after three o'clock today. The unrestricted free
Speaker 4: agents don't count against the compensatory picks for next year.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 4: It is one of the keys they could have done
Speaker 4: this last week.
Speaker 5: And they were going to do this regardless of what
Speaker 5: they did in the draft.
Speaker 4: Right because a rookie running back that they pick and
Speaker 4: say the fourth round, if they had a fourth round pick,
Speaker 4: they would have still signed Zeke.
Speaker 5: And so yeah, it's the running back thing almost took
Speaker 5: precedence of everything else they did. The thing they didn't
Speaker 5: do because they didn't draft a running back. Had they
Speaker 5: drafted a running back in the fifth, sixth, or seventh round,
Speaker 5: do you think that guy would have been significantly better
Speaker 5: than rinc o'doddell? And I think that's what they had
Speaker 5: to face.
Speaker 4: There was a run on running backs in the fourth round, right,
Speaker 4: the running back There were some that went in the
Speaker 4: third round, but the run came in the fourth round.
Speaker 4: And so had they had a fourth round pick, they
Speaker 4: probably would have taken one. But again it would not
Speaker 4: have affected this news today that Zeke is back pending
Speaker 4: of physical.
Speaker 2: Was good. He stayed in shape. Thank Bill Belichick for that.
Speaker 2: There you go. He was being used.
Speaker 6: As a every down back and in New England, and
Speaker 6: I am glad he stayed in shape.
Speaker 5: Well, we got so much to digest here because the
Speaker 5: ze thing is part of actually what you said, the draft.
Speaker 4: That's right, and how about we start with this. Okay,
Speaker 4: how about we go to our correspondent, who actually was
Speaker 4: Savannah hu Buller. We need to hear draft stories from Detroit.
Speaker 5: There's not another show on Dallas Cowboys, Dots representative the draft.
Speaker 7: I have all the insighte you guys Detroit. Let me
Speaker 7: just paint the picture here. Over seven hundred thousand people
Speaker 7: over the course of three days. It was crazy, so unbelievable.
Speaker 7: And then just the atmosphere in Detroit, the amount of
Speaker 7: people that showed up there to see this in person,
Speaker 7: it was unbelievable. Great city, great hospitality, the event staff,
Speaker 7: from security to everybody, fantastic, great time, great.
Speaker 6: Time for UH for for Detroit, d time, major financial issues.
Speaker 2: Really a nice influx of activity for you.
Speaker 4: They've had major financial issues for decades, Detroit.
Speaker 6: And they will promise, by the the guy that built
Speaker 6: the stadium that they were going to do some stuff
Speaker 6: around the stadium, and.
Speaker 2: From what I heard, they didn't do Jet but he
Speaker 2: got his money.
Speaker 7: The site was incredible. So on Wednesday afternoon, we did
Speaker 7: a Q and A with Roger Goodell, so that was
Speaker 7: really awesome to kind of hear him talk and it
Speaker 7: was more of a very intimate space with some international fans,
Speaker 7: so that was really cool. He actually came in and
Speaker 7: surprised our International Fan of the Year and told him
Speaker 7: he's the NFL International Fan of the Year, so that
Speaker 7: was really cool. We did the Red Carpet excuse me Thursday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why ghost bags, That's why they didn't choose.
Speaker 4: So what what was your role there? What was what
Speaker 4: were you doing with the with all the events going on.
Speaker 7: So I was in charge of the Cowboys Inner Circle,
Speaker 7: so all those fans that you saw on TV helped
Speaker 7: manage that group as well as I was kind of covering.
Speaker 8: Behaved they will behaved, They were well behaved. Did you
Speaker 8: did you dress them?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 7: I did bring some stuff out for these I had
Speaker 7: to bring them a couple of little things in case
Speaker 7: they forgot but great group. I also was covering some
Speaker 7: of the media portion of it, so we did the
Speaker 7: Red carpet. We had our International Fan of the Year,
Speaker 7: he walked the red carpet.
Speaker 8: Did you have to dress up?
Speaker 9: I did?
Speaker 7: I did dress up. It was great, But it was
Speaker 7: awesome seeing all of the prospects there in person. These
Speaker 7: guys were just so excited. They were so dressed up.
Speaker 7: I mean, Caleb, Williams, Jade and Daniels, all the guys
Speaker 7: walking out with their family significant others.
Speaker 4: It was great. Were there any of them that you
Speaker 4: were particularly were impressed with than others? Not necessary saying
Speaker 4: oh okay, yeah that guy.
Speaker 8: Not necessary interviews or dressed build or.
Speaker 4: Just however, however, they.
Speaker 7: All were dressed to yes, so it was great.
Speaker 8: I did.
Speaker 7: However, I wanted to speak to our guy, Darius Robinson,
Speaker 7: so I pulled him for an interview. I asked him
Speaker 7: about Missouri and his time there and you know, all
Speaker 7: the fans following him to the NFL, and he was
Speaker 7: very thankful.
Speaker 4: And he's from Detroit.
Speaker 7: He's from Detroit, so it was really great talking to
Speaker 7: him away from taking him exactly so when could have
Speaker 7: taken him if you didn't trade down, you could.
Speaker 4: He was on the he was on the board for
Speaker 4: him at twenty four.
Speaker 7: I know, we were on the watch on the floor
Speaker 7: for the Inner Circle. We were like, oh, he's still
Speaker 7: up there, like he's still on the board. So we
Speaker 7: were preparing in case that were to happen, but excited
Speaker 7: for him. He went to the Cardinals and from there
Speaker 7: it was just an immense amount of crazyiness, all the fans,
Speaker 7: all the chaos. I got to sit on set with
Speaker 7: NFL Network for a couple of days and watch their
Speaker 7: show for a few hours.
Speaker 4: So that was really cool, and you saw how unprofessional
Speaker 4: we are.
Speaker 6: We have some tips from that weekend that just feel free,
Speaker 6: helps out.
Speaker 2: We will do improve our status.
Speaker 10: We'll do well.
Speaker 7: I'm going to put a list together and we'll work
Speaker 7: on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please do it great.
Speaker 4: Feel free to interrupt whenever we do something wrong.
Speaker 8: We'll do yeah, like they do it all right.
Speaker 7: So since I was obviously there, tell me about the
Speaker 7: chaos here. After Thursday Night round one, we get Tyler
Speaker 7: Geiton what trickled from there?
Speaker 2: Congratulations by the way, Bill, because.
Speaker 4: He's an Oklahoma suoner.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I don't know if Bill's going to celebrate
Speaker 5: that or not.
Speaker 8: So let's let's dive in.
Speaker 2: He's like six ft eight inches tall.
Speaker 8: Every bit of it.
Speaker 4: You can't coach link.
Speaker 2: When people talk about too tall.
Speaker 6: You know, back in Tennessee State when they named the
Speaker 6: Jones too tall, it wasn't just a joke. I mean,
Speaker 6: he's one of the tallest to ever play.
Speaker 8: Right, he's not too tall to play.
Speaker 4: Tackle like Nicky has some concerns.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, again, it's your first pick, and the first
Speaker 5: thing you're saying is you're going to move from.
Speaker 8: Right tackle to left tackle.
Speaker 5: And it doesn't sound like he's playing much left tackle.
Speaker 5: So that's a to be determined on how well he
Speaker 5: makes the switch.
Speaker 8: But if he needs incentive.
Speaker 5: The guy that might have the most influence on him
Speaker 5: is his father.
Speaker 4: Dad.
Speaker 8: Looks like he could still play, by the way.
Speaker 4: His dad played high school basketball, Austin lb J high school.
Speaker 4: Talking with him, remember Ray Jackson with the Fab five
Speaker 4: University of Michigan. He was a high school teammate of
Speaker 4: his and Austin LBJ.
Speaker 8: His dad was he played football at Midwestern.
Speaker 4: Midwestern State and wished off fall.
Speaker 8: And he looks like he can still play.
Speaker 4: By the way, it is a most rabid Cowboys fan
Speaker 4: shout out to him. He's probably listening right now.
Speaker 8: And not only and not only he actually.
Speaker 4: Came up to me and said it's an honor to
Speaker 4: meet you.
Speaker 8: That's his first demerit.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm not I said, I'm not one of
Speaker 4: those jones Is. You don't have to talk to me
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 5: Not not only is not with the family. Not only
Speaker 5: is no nonsense father. By the way, So if the
Speaker 5: young man needs any incentive or anybody to kind of
Speaker 5: right them rough shot at top of it, he's the
Speaker 5: Cowboys fan too, So he's got a vested interest in
Speaker 5: what this kid does going forward.
Speaker 2: And if he.
Speaker 8: Gets out a line, I wouldn't want to have to
Speaker 8: answer to his dad. Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 4: Great family, but yeah, great family. They were here and
Speaker 4: they made the big tour and went on the private
Speaker 4: jet picked him up down in Manor, Texas. Manor is
Speaker 4: located just to the northeast, about fifteen miles from downtown Austin.
Speaker 2: He builds a tall jet. You don't want to be
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: That's the thing you talk about length, and that's one
Speaker 4: of the big things link and offset of some of
Speaker 4: the inexperience.
Speaker 8: That he might have coming in here because he hasn't
Speaker 8: played a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: I mean he came to for his story. You go
Speaker 4: back to Maynor. He actually transferred in to Maynor because
Speaker 4: Jamal shed basketball player at University of Houston is going
Speaker 4: to be a first round draft pick in the NBA.
Speaker 4: He played at Manor and so he transferred there to
Speaker 4: play basketball. And then it sounds like maybe he didn't
Speaker 4: make the varsity. I'm not sure because I asked him
Speaker 4: how far they went in the playoffs and he said, well,
Speaker 4: I wasn't that good at basketball. So he started playing football. Actually,
Speaker 4: someone one of the coaches saw him in the hallway
Speaker 4: at the school and said, you need to come play football.
Speaker 4: He had a growth spurt like when he was fifteen
Speaker 4: years old and got much taller, and he played defensive
Speaker 4: line his senior year at Manor. And then Gary Patterson
Speaker 4: and TCU they were in. Patterson had a history of
Speaker 4: this being able to project a small school, smaller schools
Speaker 4: class five eight Manor and that this guy can play
Speaker 4: offensive line. And so the only D one scholarship offer
Speaker 4: they had was he had was TCU. He went there
Speaker 4: and for two years was a backup, scored a touchdown
Speaker 4: as an h back in a game.
Speaker 8: And everybody was giving him credit for being a tight.
Speaker 4: Air right right. And then they had a coaching change,
Speaker 4: and so he transferred to Oklahoma.
Speaker 5: And besides what he's done on the field, here's two
Speaker 5: things they think you need to know about him. When
Speaker 5: he got here, they went to the Cowboys' warehouse pro
Speaker 5: Shop North and Frisco, and that's where they were making
Speaker 5: the jerseys, the number sixty with his name on which
Speaker 5: his whole family was wearing. And I guess there was
Speaker 5: a line up of people for him to walk through
Speaker 5: and applaud and everything. When he got the jersey and
Speaker 5: everybody he was coming back and everybody was milling around,
Speaker 5: he went up and shook everybody's hand, like went out
Speaker 5: of his way to thank them for what they do.
Speaker 5: Then he comes here and you know, did all the
Speaker 5: stuff he needed to do, the press conference and whatever
Speaker 5: the draft party is going out on going on out
Speaker 5: on the plaza.
Speaker 8: I was out there doing a live TV shot.
Speaker 5: And next thing I looked and he and his buddies
Speaker 5: and his brothers are out on the plaza and he's
Speaker 5: taking pictures, like group pictures with everybody, And I'm going, Okay,
Speaker 5: if that part of it means anything, it sounds like
Speaker 5: they got a pretty good guy, and maybe for a change,
Speaker 5: we get to talk to the starting left tackle.
Speaker 8: If that means anything, because.
Speaker 5: If you think about it, flows Al Adams didn't like
Speaker 5: talking to the media, and we know Tyran's history or
Speaker 5: just grunting when people ask him a question.
Speaker 4: Uh so just because that was his personality. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a quiet guy.
Speaker 6: Don't forget that. I have him stepping out of his element.
Speaker 6: The video of him dancing on the sands on the beach.
Speaker 2: At what he was having a good time.
Speaker 4: Have you shared that with us?
Speaker 5: I have you guys got a Pro Bowl? No?
Speaker 6: We having one of those cowboy travel Oh okay, he
Speaker 6: was getting out there. You should see him. He's got
Speaker 6: some hips, he can move. I do it to one
Speaker 6: of these days.
Speaker 4: I do like the chemistry him alongside Tyler Smith on
Speaker 4: the left side of the offensive line right, two guys
Speaker 4: that are similar ages. Let's say Tyler Smith turned twenty
Speaker 4: three April third, and Guidon is just two months younger
Speaker 4: than him. He turns twenty three on June eleventh.
Speaker 2: So did we go with the best athletes? So is
Speaker 2: that what we went with.
Speaker 5: Let's let's do this at twenty four. If they don't
Speaker 5: trade down and get a third and get another potential
Speaker 5: starting player at center with Cooper Bbie at twenty four.
Speaker 8: If they hadn't traded down, what would you have done?
Speaker 4: Would have drafted Graham Barton?
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 5: So basically basically what they did is traded Graham Barton
Speaker 5: for Tyler Geiton and Cooper Beebe. And that's I think
Speaker 5: how we have to judge the finality of how this
Speaker 5: turns out.
Speaker 4: The other thing to consider on Tyler Geydon, and I
Speaker 4: think what probably happened when they decided they got the
Speaker 4: offer from Detroit to move down five spots, they had
Speaker 4: a handful of players that they were comfortable with taking
Speaker 4: that fit their needs. And I think if you just
Speaker 4: look at the list of the guys that went off
Speaker 4: the board right after that, from Graham Barton to Jordan
Speaker 4: Morgan to Darius Robinson, there's three of the handful and
Speaker 4: now you're down to the last one. Maybe the last
Speaker 4: one in Tyler Goeyton, and they were high fives all
Speaker 4: around when he was still there. The other thing I
Speaker 4: think you need to look at the next offensive tackle
Speaker 4: after that that was drafted was Patrick Paul at fifty five,
Speaker 4: one pick before the Cowboys second round pick at fifty six,
Speaker 4: and then there were a whole bunch of tackles that
Speaker 4: went off the board after that. So in the Cowboys estimation,
Speaker 4: there was a drop off between Tyler Goeyiton and the
Speaker 4: next offensive lineman and the apparently the rest of the league.
Speaker 4: And keep in mind, he was the seventh offensive tackle
Speaker 4: drafted in the first round of this draft. There were
Speaker 4: already six of them that went off the board before,
Speaker 4: so he was in that it was the last of
Speaker 4: that bunch. It's very similar to Tyler Smith. When they
Speaker 4: drafted Tyler Smith, they had now they I think they
Speaker 4: had a higher grade on Tyler Smith than they did
Speaker 4: Geiden because they said they had a first round grade
Speaker 4: on Smith two years ago. But he again in that draft,
Speaker 4: which wasn't as deep as far as offensive lineman or
Speaker 4: offensive tackle types are concerned, there was a more severe
Speaker 4: drop off. I don't think that that was that grade,
Speaker 4: a drop off between Geyton and those tackles that went
Speaker 4: off late in the second round. They could have waited
Speaker 4: on it, as it turned out, but you don't know
Speaker 4: that until after the fact. And so they felt like
Speaker 4: they needed at a premium position, elite position left tackle.
Speaker 4: They needed to pull the trigger on Guiden.
Speaker 5: So there was twenty from twenty nine to fifty five.
Speaker 5: That was the next tackle, so twenty six picks in
Speaker 5: between the tackle, so he was the last one taken
Speaker 5: in the first round.
Speaker 4: And then after that, after the Cowboys picked at fifty six,
Speaker 4: Houston took a left tackle of Blake Fisher from Notre Dame.
Speaker 4: Roger Rosengarten from Washington went at sixty two to Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Kingsley Suamattaya went to Kansas City at sixty three, and
Speaker 4: then Brandon Coleman to Washington at sixty seven, Cayden Wallace
Speaker 4: to New England at sixty eight. There was a whole
Speaker 4: bunch of tackles that went right after that second round pick.
Speaker 6: So are we looking at him as a left tackle
Speaker 6: or did the BB sign give us?
Speaker 2: Is it BB? Yeah? Cooper bebe?
Speaker 6: Did that sign give us the versatility that we needed?
Speaker 6: Those lost to him being able to play different positions?
Speaker 6: I'm talking about Cooper and therefore taking the pressure off
Speaker 6: of Tile to necessarily go to left tackle because it looks.
Speaker 4: Like BB was as far as Guidon's position, BB was
Speaker 4: unrelated to that. The question on Guidon is that will
Speaker 4: he play right tackle or left tackle. Since steals at
Speaker 4: right tackle, Giiton is your left tackle.
Speaker 6: Okay, so that's not a candidate play right tackle then
Speaker 6: left tackle if he plays right tackle.
Speaker 8: No, he's not.
Speaker 2: He's not going to play right tackle.
Speaker 8: Steel's not a left tackle.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: Well, then he's gonna he's going to have to to
Speaker 6: start get working on it right now. He's going to
Speaker 6: have to have the mentality that I've always had. Everyone
Speaker 6: acts like it's impossible for a right tackle to play
Speaker 6: left tack.
Speaker 4: He feels like his better position is left tackle. Now,
Speaker 4: the Cowboys will quickly point out that Oklahoma had a
Speaker 4: left handed quarterback in Dylan Gabriel, and they say that's
Speaker 4: why he was playing right tackle at OU because he
Speaker 4: was the blindside protector for Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 7: And I will add that he had over one thousand
Speaker 7: snaps at right tackle and only seventy at left tackle.
Speaker 2: So I think it's that's my thing. He's going to
Speaker 2: have to get to get to work.
Speaker 6: But you know, everyone acts like it's so difficult to do,
Speaker 6: which I never agreed with her.
Speaker 4: He don't repeat it.
Speaker 2: The coach had used.
Speaker 8: He said it, he got transcribed.
Speaker 2: You can find it.
Speaker 4: So Okay, okay, I think it was Josh. Josh, sitting
Speaker 4: offensive guard for the Packers, had a very descriptive way
Speaker 4: of saying, what the difference is playing right tackle and
Speaker 4: left hand?
Speaker 5: I had to do with a bodily function doing it
Speaker 5: with your right hand.
Speaker 2: Or your left hand. I'll have to look that up.
Speaker 8: We're going to take a but but but the key
Speaker 8: thing of this whole deal is which.
Speaker 4: Tells me that it's very difficult to make that.
Speaker 8: It would be a.
Speaker 5: I had a hard time going to my left in basketball.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm with it's.
Speaker 4: Hard to right and still shoot with his left.
Speaker 5: I think, so, what do you what do you think
Speaker 5: would have taken place if they trade?
Speaker 11: So?
Speaker 5: They played the percentages right, they moved down five picks,
Speaker 5: They had four guys they were willing to take.
Speaker 8: What if all four were there? What do you think?
Speaker 4: I think, Uh, that would have been very interesting. If
Speaker 4: I think they would have tried to trade down again.
Speaker 2: I think no.
Speaker 5: I think you're right because Kansas City wanted to trade.
Speaker 5: Kansas City wanted to come up to twenty nine. Also,
Speaker 5: Carolina was trying to come up back into the first round.
Speaker 5: I think they would have traded down again and might
Speaker 5: have got that fourth round pick. Yep, that's right, because
Speaker 5: I thought in order they would have taken Barton.
Speaker 4: But I think I also think Kansas City was trying
Speaker 4: to trade up even when they were at twenty four.
Speaker 4: They valued Xavier You're worthy that much that they were
Speaker 4: willing to come up to twenty four. And I bet
Speaker 4: you when we did this little mock draft Kyle Yeomans
Speaker 4: and I on the Blitz where we did a scenario
Speaker 4: where Kansas City traded up and gave up their third
Speaker 4: and fourth round pick ninety five and one thirty one,
Speaker 4: And I bet you Kansas City probably offered that, but
Speaker 4: the Cowboys did not want to take that because they
Speaker 4: didn't want to go down to thirty two because they
Speaker 4: thought they might miss out on their guy. That's why
Speaker 4: the Detroit pick was more appealing to them, even though
Speaker 4: they were only offering one draft pick, although it was
Speaker 4: a much higher a third round pick than what Kansas City.
Speaker 4: You have seventy three rather than ninety five. But the
Speaker 4: main thing is they did not want to miss on
Speaker 4: one of those four players.
Speaker 6: I gotta say, unless someone can show me better, I
Speaker 6: am confused. On the second round pick, Okay.
Speaker 4: When we come back here on mix Shots, we discuss
Speaker 4: the second round pick Marshannland out of Western Michigan. Mix
Speaker 4: Shots continues at a moment.
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Speaker 4: Okay, we're ready to do this.
Speaker 7: I don't know who that is.
Speaker 4: With a K, we're ready to discuss the second round pick. Yes,
Speaker 4: Marshawn Kneelan Everson posed the question just a moment ago.
Speaker 4: What was your question? Everson?
Speaker 2: Well, my question is if I'm a quarterback.
Speaker 6: And I'm being judged on something, most likely it's gonna
Speaker 6: be touchdown passes.
Speaker 8: Right, I'm gonna have judging on sacks.
Speaker 6: There you go, So tell me what. Well, my thing
Speaker 6: is he only has like three and a half sex. Oh,
Speaker 6: okay with me, he's with me?
Speaker 8: I knew good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I mean that's my thing. And you got
Speaker 6: a guy that I don't know. I didn't necessarily see
Speaker 6: any thing.
Speaker 5: You aren't the defensive line coach. You're right because Michael
Speaker 5: Parsons wouldn't be doing everything he should be doing as
Speaker 5: a defensive end.
Speaker 8: He'd be hunting sacks.
Speaker 5: If you watch the highlights of this guy, he's a
Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence starter.
Speaker 6: That's what I saw. That's what I saw. That's what
Speaker 6: I saw. That's the best thing I saw about him.
Speaker 5: That's the and to me, that was the most important thing.
Speaker 5: He plays the run, and he can move inside if
Speaker 5: they need him to in the nickel. But the thing
Speaker 5: that impressed me from his highlights was the fact that
Speaker 5: he was willing and able to play the run. And
Speaker 5: one of I think Mike Zimmer's priority is we got
Speaker 5: to do a better job against the run. So I
Speaker 5: think that might have taken precedence over there because who's
Speaker 5: the other defensive end that would play there, Say, Parsons
Speaker 5: is a linebacker, DeMarcus Lawrence is on the left side,
Speaker 5: Williams on the right side. Sam Williams lost what is
Speaker 5: his weakness playing the run? So to me, they were
Speaker 5: looking for somebody to help the run defense. That certainly
Speaker 5: showed up in almost every game they lost, and I
Speaker 5: think that's what.
Speaker 4: The Okay, so who was playing that role last year
Speaker 4: somewhat right right defensive ends some Darrence Armstrong, who a
Speaker 4: Washington commander, right and so and the other so have
Speaker 4: they upgraded at that position? Marshawn Neelan understanding he's a
Speaker 4: rookie coming in. We haven't seen him yet and he's
Speaker 4: played at Western Michigan.
Speaker 6: Versus storn athlete, excellent athlete, this guy has He ran
Speaker 6: at the two hundred meters in the.
Speaker 2: Four hundred well and one of the things I look at,
Speaker 2: what the hell did he not do in high school?
Speaker 4: And he's got length thirty four and a half inch
Speaker 4: arms right and one of them. You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 4: The cone drill, especially for defensive linemen and getting to
Speaker 4: the quarterback, is an important measurement of your quickness, and
Speaker 4: he had a seven o two cone drill, which is
Speaker 4: really good amongst this class. We've talked about in the
Speaker 4: week's leading up to the draft, how age it's have
Speaker 4: been telling the players don't even do the cone drill
Speaker 4: because it's such an important measurement that the NFL teams use,
Speaker 4: and if you have a bad cone drill, that might
Speaker 4: drop you around in the draft. Well, he's got a
Speaker 4: pretty good one right there, Probably one of the best
Speaker 4: in this class. If you're seven. That's right. He probably
Speaker 4: raised him from the third round of the second round.
Speaker 6: And I'm you know, I'm just a little nervous, that's all.
Speaker 6: That's why I've come to you guys with my concerns
Speaker 6: because I love the drills. They're all fun, right, it's
Speaker 6: exciting to watch, but it doesn't equate to.
Speaker 2: Play the ball.
Speaker 4: The other thing though, in and at Western Michigan, that
Speaker 4: level of college football, the you know, the spread offenses,
Speaker 4: they're getting the ball out so quick and it's fair
Speaker 4: and it's a trickle up to Division one football. I mean,
Speaker 4: the FBS schools are doing the same thing. Power five
Speaker 4: schools now. It is hard to get sacks now because
Speaker 4: quarterbacks are getting rid of the football so quick. And
Speaker 4: so that's where I'm not as concerned about four and
Speaker 4: a half sacks in ten games is last year at
Speaker 4: Western Michigan. As yeah, you would like better numbers than that,
Speaker 4: But when you see him on film and you see
Speaker 4: how he measured, you know, he and the motor that
Speaker 4: he plays with, I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 4: an issue.
Speaker 5: The other guy they kind of compared him with was
Speaker 5: Greg Ellis, who, by the.
Speaker 8: Way, who's coaching at the defensive a coach right now.
Speaker 6: I could see a lot of Greg and him as well. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so I'm jealous of his one ten hurdles. I only
Speaker 6: got a seventeen to one. This food was one of
Speaker 6: the fifteen eight?
Speaker 2: Dang?
Speaker 8: Is that in high school?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's crazy. He did all this, all this track stuff.
Speaker 2: He's done. A good athlete. He's got to be an
Speaker 2: amazing athlete from what I saw.
Speaker 6: But once again, you know, and who else I kind
Speaker 6: of thought of was a little bit of Rayfield right
Speaker 6: as well, just in regards to his athleticism.
Speaker 2: And then we're talking about two different sides of.
Speaker 5: The ball, right, So can we go to my favorite
Speaker 5: go We're good, We're good, Cooper Bebe.
Speaker 7: Why is he your favorite?
Speaker 2: Peic?
Speaker 13: Mickey?
Speaker 2: Well, because he has video on it.
Speaker 8: I was watching.
Speaker 5: I was watching highlights of the guy. And this has
Speaker 5: gotta be the most no nonsense offensive lineman.
Speaker 8: I think I've seen. Now we can start with.
Speaker 4: More no no nonsense than Larry Allen Close.
Speaker 5: Okay, six three three twenty two. We got some film
Speaker 5: of it, and we've got some film number fifty. It
Speaker 5: is number fifty, and a lot of what the highlights
Speaker 5: they show are past blocking. But if you see what
Speaker 5: he does as a run blocker, and I don't think.
Speaker 2: He was fifty.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a highlight where.
Speaker 2: He's one fifty.
Speaker 5: See one guy to the next, And these are all
Speaker 5: past blocks. They we found on somewhere online when he
Speaker 5: was run blocking.
Speaker 4: He's doing a little bit of run blocking.
Speaker 5: He was on the first level, he blocked the guy.
Speaker 5: He went to the second level to his left, and
Speaker 5: I think it might have been a safety. Somebody was
Speaker 5: just kind of getting in his way and he was
Speaker 5: blocking him and blocking them, and it was almost like
Speaker 5: he said, get the hell out of here and threw
Speaker 5: the guy on.
Speaker 8: The ground, just threw him on the ground like I
Speaker 8: was in front of him.
Speaker 5: So I like the fact that not only that, to
Speaker 5: play center, you got to be pretty sharp, right. He
Speaker 5: was a finalist for the Academic.
Speaker 8: The Cambell Trophy, the Campbell.
Speaker 5: Troth the Academic Heisman, and I think he can't wait.
Speaker 5: And they also he said he likes to dirt guys,
Speaker 5: and everybody said, what are you talking about. He goes,
Speaker 5: I like to put him in the dirt, and I said, okay,
Speaker 5: I'm good with that.
Speaker 8: I know I don't think I ever heard.
Speaker 5: I don't think I ever heard the phrase to put
Speaker 5: it that way, going to dirt you.
Speaker 8: Okay, we'll start dirting dude.
Speaker 2: And I like the fact that he might play center, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, how are we looking at it?
Speaker 5: They're gonna try, They're gonna he's gonna transition there now.
Speaker 5: As Mike McCarthy said, you know, brock Hoffman gonna bring
Speaker 5: his lunch pail every day and he better be ready
Speaker 5: for the competition. Hoffman's not going to just concede it.
Speaker 5: But again, you've got a guy that can play guard
Speaker 5: centersility is so so that's the guy. I think that
Speaker 5: makes the guide and pick better because they got a
Speaker 5: third combination, third round sort of like when he judge
Speaker 5: the Travis Frederick trade down when they drafted him, they
Speaker 5: went from eighteen to thirty one and everybody said, wow,
Speaker 5: he was the second round pick. Well he was three
Speaker 5: picks from the second round, okay, and they picked up
Speaker 5: Terrence Williams, a starting wide receiver.
Speaker 8: So I think it's very similar to that.
Speaker 4: Do you want to move on to the second third
Speaker 4: round pick?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 4: Dissertation merist Loofowl linebacker Notre Dame.
Speaker 8: Lou Foule.
Speaker 4: That's lool.
Speaker 8: Well, that's way they put it. A little thing.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 4: Our Cowboys TV people asked him, how do you pronounce
Speaker 4: your name?
Speaker 2: And he said.
Speaker 4: Loufoulole, merist loufowl. Even though I think Mike Zimmer's excited
Speaker 4: about him, I.
Speaker 5: Think he's real excited about him. Linebacker.
Speaker 2: Yeah they needed, which we.
Speaker 7: Need, Yes, right, very happy with that pick.
Speaker 8: He's more of a strong side guy.
Speaker 4: You think, oh, well, he was used not only off
Speaker 4: the ball and there's a three down linebacker at Notre Dame,
Speaker 4: but also who came off the edge rushing the passers
Speaker 4: the other thing, and he has that ability to get
Speaker 4: to the quarterback quickly. I think he'd be a SAM
Speaker 4: linebacker to start off with, but he can. You know,
Speaker 4: we got Eric Kendricks here, who's familiar with Zimmer's system,
Speaker 4: who's thirty one, thirty two years old, who's your one
Speaker 4: of your inside linebackers or middle linebacker this year, and
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be mentoring. Yes, meris Loofile.
Speaker 6: And Lofle I liked his Uh, he's not Michael Parson's
Speaker 6: in regards to how he closes, but it was similar
Speaker 6: and that's what you want. Someone that can, you know,
Speaker 6: eliminate that distance between himself and a lot of.
Speaker 5: Times when you're playing in a four or three, the
Speaker 5: strong side linebackers lining up on the line of scrimmage
Speaker 5: on the tight end, so you can blitz from there.
Speaker 5: And that was one of his strengths that they were
Speaker 5: talking about with this guy. So and then not only that,
Speaker 5: you get a linebacker again that can play special teams,
Speaker 5: and with the new kickoff rule, you need linebackers on
Speaker 5: the coverage team.
Speaker 2: All Right, he's a high enagy gout, they said, all right,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 4: Kendricks was drafted by Mike Zimmer in Miami. I'm in Minnesota, okay,
Speaker 4: six foot two hundred and thirty two pounds out of UCLA.
Speaker 4: Marius Loufeul is six to two hundred and thirty four pounds.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 4: To dame, Okay, Kendricks ran a four to six to one,
Speaker 4: Loufoul a four to six four.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The that cone drill I speak of. Kendricks had a
Speaker 4: seven fourteen. Loufoul had a seven sixteen. It's almost identical
Speaker 4: these measurables. I think I think Zimmer probably sees some
Speaker 4: Kendricks and Marris Loufoun.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: All right, that's a good one.
Speaker 5: And he he and the fifth round pick, Kaylin Carson
Speaker 5: both talked about playing special teams. That Carson said he
Speaker 5: played all four special teams.
Speaker 8: I think lul File said he played special teams.
Speaker 5: And you're gonna need linebackers to play special teams.
Speaker 4: On kickoff coverage, here's producer Supreme. Chris Beam just pointed
Speaker 4: out something that I need to also point out, the difference.
Speaker 2: One of the.
Speaker 4: Differences lou Foulon Kendricks. Lou Foule's got thirty four inch arms.
Speaker 4: Kendricks thirty one inch arms. When you have thirty one
Speaker 4: inch arms, you're an inside player. When you're when you
Speaker 4: have thirty four inch arms, you can play on the outside.
Speaker 4: You can play that Sam linebacker. And yes, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 4: thank you very much, Producer Supreme. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: And if you think about it, after Loofile, they had
Speaker 5: to wait from eighty.
Speaker 8: Seven to one seventy four to make the next pick,
Speaker 8: so it was a it was a long wait.
Speaker 4: It was, and they took cornerback Kaylan Carson of Wake Forest.
Speaker 4: And if you aren't familiar with the third day picks
Speaker 4: Kaylan Carson cornerback Wake Forest fifth round number one, seventy four,
Speaker 4: wide receiver Ryan Floornoy Southeast Missouri State sixth round number two, sixteen,
Speaker 4: And then they went big in the seventh round with
Speaker 4: Nate Thomas, the tackle out of Louisiana Lafayette and Justin Rodgers,
Speaker 4: defensive tackle from Auburn, both of whom are three hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty to three hundred thirty pounds.
Speaker 8: So Thomas three thirty two.
Speaker 4: Six five, three thirty two, and they're.
Speaker 5: Gonna move him to guard and then Rogers six to two.
Speaker 5: It says three twenty two.
Speaker 4: I think it's three thirty two.
Speaker 5: It should be three thirty two because I saw one
Speaker 5: thing he was thirty eight, and then I saw one
Speaker 5: thing he was three sixty something.
Speaker 8: So anyway, it's a big dude that started one technique.
Speaker 5: Yeah, started at Kentucky and made his way to Auburn
Speaker 5: for his final year, and all I can think of
Speaker 5: they can only hope he turns out to be Jay Ratliffe.
Speaker 4: Being a seventh rounder from Auburn, right, But he's a
Speaker 4: different type player than he's a little bit bigger than
Speaker 4: raw Ratliffe is a smaller nose tackle, but he played.
Speaker 8: He played if his motor was as good as ratlifts.
Speaker 5: They got themselves maybe somebody there that they can sink
Speaker 5: their teeth into.
Speaker 7: I like the Kaylin Carson pick because he was actually
Speaker 7: projected to be a third rounder according to the NFL.
Speaker 7: But I I think that was almost a good move
Speaker 7: for us considering Stefan Gilmore. It's still a free agent,
Speaker 7: and you add a little bit more depth to that
Speaker 7: position as far as Bland digs coming back of an injury.
Speaker 7: You know, Jordan Lewis I really like.
Speaker 6: I really like his footwork was good. That he didn't
Speaker 6: he didn't know how to catch that well. But you know,
Speaker 6: when you're in position, as much as I saw him
Speaker 6: in position, you know, picks it easy to make because
Speaker 6: he breaks well. I mean, he closes that distance very
Speaker 6: quickly and his footwork is amazing.
Speaker 2: So all he needs is confidence.
Speaker 6: You know a lot of times you can be really
Speaker 6: good at something in college, but you don't think you
Speaker 6: can transfer well into the pros.
Speaker 2: But no, I think he will, and he reminds me
Speaker 2: of Gilmore.
Speaker 5: The other thing I noticed was he's not shy to
Speaker 5: make a tackle.
Speaker 6: Oh no, No, he's very physical, he's very aggressive, and
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 2: I think he'll be his press. His press technique is
Speaker 2: also very good.
Speaker 5: Some thought that he could help on the nickel and
Speaker 5: play outside.
Speaker 2: Which if you think about it, with the.
Speaker 5: Three guys, we talked about who's the fourth right and
Speaker 5: who's the backup nickel because they don't have Now we
Speaker 5: got to see what Eric Scott is. They got to
Speaker 5: give him a chance, and he's one of those guys
Speaker 5: that they spent what a a fifth round pick on
Speaker 5: Scott to trade up to get him m hm, the
Speaker 5: first pick in the sixth So between those two guys,
Speaker 5: they got to step up and be able to add
Speaker 5: some depth so they don't get in the situation like
Speaker 5: they did in the playoff game when Gilmore goes out
Speaker 5: there with a harness on his shoulder that needed to
Speaker 5: be operated on three or four days later, because they
Speaker 5: really didn't have anybody else they trusted to put out there.
Speaker 5: So they need both of those guys to step up
Speaker 5: and be players.
Speaker 2: When you look at it, it didn't make a difference.
Speaker 2: They should have just put the bag up out there,
Speaker 2: and when you think.
Speaker 8: About how well it wasn't him. It was just the
Speaker 8: rest of them didn't know how to play zone right.
Speaker 6: Well, he was out of position as well a few times.
Speaker 6: So I think that it messed with his technique.
Speaker 2: I really do. I think a mess with his whole trying.
Speaker 4: The thought, Okay, we got much more to get to.
Speaker 4: Where does this leave this team after the draft?
Speaker 5: And I think we need to take a deeper dive
Speaker 5: into that running back position.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's to come here on mixshots.
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Speaker 4: Okay, we continue with mix shots, and Mickey wants to
Speaker 4: dive further into the Ezekiel Elliott led Dallas Cowboys running
Speaker 4: back room.
Speaker 5: Well, let's just talk about the running room before Zeke
Speaker 5: shows up or will show up. Rec O'Donnell, Hunter, Lipke,
Speaker 5: Deuce Vaughan, Malik Davis, Snoop Connor, and Royce Freeman. Those
Speaker 5: other guys not named Freeman have totaled six hundred and
Speaker 5: five total NFL rushing yards. Freeman has seventeen ninety two.
Speaker 5: He's twenty eight, He's a on his seventh seventh year
Speaker 5: in the league.
Speaker 4: He's had one team too.
Speaker 5: Maybe he's had just one He only had one start
Speaker 5: in his career, so it's not like he's a starting
Speaker 5: quality running back.
Speaker 8: He's a nice rotation guy. If he can make the team. Now,
Speaker 8: and that's.
Speaker 4: Key to being Ronald Jones.
Speaker 5: Now, I was gonna say, because his they only signed
Speaker 5: him to a one year veteran exception salary.
Speaker 8: Uh and he only counts.
Speaker 5: One point one three four million against the cap sixty
Speaker 5: five thousand, five hundred guaranteed. So if you're fouling the money,
Speaker 5: that's a drop in the bucket if he doesn't make
Speaker 5: the team.
Speaker 4: So they and that was like Ronald Jones last year, right.
Speaker 2: And they cut him? Right?
Speaker 8: Did he even make it out of training camp?
Speaker 4: Remember he had a suspension to start the year, one
Speaker 4: game suspension, I think, and he got he got so
Speaker 4: he did not make it out of trading camp.
Speaker 5: But he had arrested for possession of marijuana. Okay, I
Speaker 5: didn't think anybody got arrested for that in only in Texas.
Speaker 5: Just like nobody in college is ever anymore academically ineligible.
Speaker 8: That doesn't happen.
Speaker 4: Sounds like a rent is about to happen.
Speaker 5: Shot, We've totally devalued the scholarship.
Speaker 8: That's not like that, and they did not.
Speaker 4: Why are they paying these college players?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and if you leave, you ought to pay your
Speaker 5: money back too, by the way, So we talked about
Speaker 5: the the kind of running back desert there was when
Speaker 5: the Cowboys would have taken somebody they kind of liked,
Speaker 5: maybe Trey Benson Florida State till when they got back
Speaker 5: on the clock in the fifth round.
Speaker 8: But that's not why they signed Zeke.
Speaker 5: They were planning on kind of doing it beforehand, just
Speaker 5: like when they traded down in the first round. When
Speaker 5: I interviewed Jerry for the draft party out on the plaza,
Speaker 5: it was at four point thirty and I said, well,
Speaker 5: you know, since nineteen eighty nine, you've made seventy one
Speaker 5: Draft day trades. I said, what are the chances in
Speaker 5: the first round you're moving down? He goes, oh, eighty percent.
Speaker 5: So no surprise that they traded down.
Speaker 8: But he talked up Zeke on.
Speaker 5: Friday after that, the second day of picks, saying that
Speaker 5: he he said, Zeke still has starting qualities about him.
Speaker 8: So we'll see.
Speaker 5: But if I think we were all in agreement last year,
Speaker 5: they should have signed him and they basically.
Speaker 4: The main problem that Zeke had here in the perception
Speaker 4: of fans. I think, yes in media is he made
Speaker 4: is how much money he.
Speaker 2: Made, right, That's all they taught.
Speaker 4: That an economical price.
Speaker 2: Fans act like their money.
Speaker 5: Basically, they signed them one year a max of three
Speaker 5: two million guaranteed, so it's not like they're paying them
Speaker 5: a lot. They're just accounting for the rest of his
Speaker 5: other contract, which is six million in dead money. They're
Speaker 5: not paying him that they've already given that money.
Speaker 8: They have to account for.
Speaker 6: He it was worth every penny when he was here.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I don't care what they say.
Speaker 5: And I remember Bill saying this last year, and everybody
Speaker 5: was making such a big deal of him only averaging
Speaker 5: three point eight yards of carry his last year in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, well before Terren Steele got hurt torres ACL.
Speaker 5: And let's remember they had a rookie starting at left tackle,
Speaker 5: Tyler Smith. Tyron Smith didn't get back until after Steele
Speaker 5: torres Acl.
Speaker 8: In twenty twenty two. I looked it up.
Speaker 5: Before Steele got hurt, he had averaged at least four
Speaker 5: point one yards a game.
Speaker 8: Or more okay a carry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, prior to the injury to Steal, he had
Speaker 5: carried the ball one hundred and seventy two times for
Speaker 5: seven hundred and forty six yards in eleven games and
Speaker 5: was averaging four point three. After Steele got hurt, he
Speaker 5: averaged three point six, three point four, one point nine,
Speaker 5: one point three, and those last two games at the
Speaker 5: end of the year, I think Pollard was doing most
Speaker 5: of the work at that so I think everybody got
Speaker 5: carried away with the three point eight. Uh and just
Speaker 5: look at what he provides inside the ten, inside the
Speaker 5: five right blitz pickup and the blitz pick up.
Speaker 4: And how many yards Carrie did Tony Pollard average this
Speaker 4: year for the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: It ended up being four four point zero and the
Speaker 8: team averaged.
Speaker 6: Way for number goes to the media's eyes, right, But
Speaker 6: what I just I'm just glad he's back. I got
Speaker 6: to say, I'm glad he's back. And when you start
Speaker 6: looking at narratives in regards of the press and the
Speaker 6: media and all of that, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I hope Jerry wasn't listening to that.
Speaker 8: Well, obviously he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad he brought him back.
Speaker 8: And the other thing that stands it out in my mind.
Speaker 5: Was was it the Miami game when they fumbled at
Speaker 5: the one after Poward had a chance from the one
Speaker 5: to score and instead of powering through on the love
Speaker 5: tackle that he tried to bounce it outside.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, my boy.
Speaker 8: What Bill always brought that? That's what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because he didn't think.
Speaker 8: He didn't think, he didn't think. Yeah, he didn't think
Speaker 8: he was getting the ball. I swear to god, he
Speaker 8: didn't think he was.
Speaker 2: Because even though okay, I haven't go.
Speaker 4: How do the Cowboys look as far as weapons on
Speaker 4: all bes right now?
Speaker 7: I first of all, with this Zeke coming back home
Speaker 7: to the Cowboys, let's go back to his connection with
Speaker 7: Dak Prescott. That is a vital, vital thing to have
Speaker 7: on this offense, and that's something that I think is underrated.
Speaker 7: And so them kind of having that moment to reunite
Speaker 7: and play again this season, I think that's pretty key
Speaker 7: as far as our offense is looking.
Speaker 6: I don't think he's the magic pill, but no, you
Speaker 6: would have to think that last year, going on what
Speaker 6: you said, especially I'm trying to give Dak some some
Speaker 6: leadway here, you would hope that he would play better
Speaker 6: with Zeke sitting there in the huddle next to him
Speaker 6: as opposed to these guys that of course, he loves
Speaker 6: his teammates, but when you got Zeke there, you might
Speaker 6: feel a little bit more secure in that pocket exactly
Speaker 6: when the blitzers are coming. Maybe you could talk to
Speaker 6: him on the sidelines. And you know, they were the duo.
Speaker 8: They were the duo.
Speaker 5: They really were so New England. Last year he rushed
Speaker 5: for six hundred and forty two yards. He had fifty
Speaker 5: one catch us for three thirteen and I think Bill
Speaker 5: brought this up last time. Nine hundred and fifty five
Speaker 5: total yards from scrimmage, playing fifty one percent of the snaps.
Speaker 2: With that team, with that team, with that offense of line.
Speaker 8: Oh no quarterback, Oh my god, right.
Speaker 4: On a four and thirteen team.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: So that's work, man, that's putting in work. That's a professional.
Speaker 8: It's not like he fell off the ledge. Right.
Speaker 4: So, by the way, the last game they played, I
Speaker 4: went back and looked this morning at it. They played
Speaker 4: the Jets. It was in a driving snow stream. Man,
Speaker 4: he's out there and then these stats.
Speaker 2: Count, yes, and he was you know, there wasn't nobody.
Speaker 4: That could run and do anything in that game.
Speaker 8: Sometimes, you know, damn well he was the whole at
Speaker 8: and T stadium.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to look inside the box instead of
Speaker 5: just trying to put a ribbon on it in a bowl.
Speaker 6: Well, one thing that before we I don't know how
Speaker 6: long we but here's I have to say about this draft.
Speaker 2: We went for what we wanted.
Speaker 6: We went for the trenches, right, We went for more
Speaker 6: physical players. As much as I talk about even the
Speaker 6: wide receiver in Florida, he's a good run, he's a
Speaker 6: good blocker on you know, in the secondary. So I
Speaker 6: look for the Cowboys to replaces Brown.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 8: That's it, a physical acrid, that's it.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if he can do Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Well, all I was saying was I was always worried
Speaker 6: about us in the trenches, and to me, I think
Speaker 6: they addressed a lot of that doing this draft.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to look pretty. I don't need a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of players. We have CD Lamb, we have
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 6: You know, we've got some good we got Ferguson, We've
Speaker 6: got some good tight ends. We've got enough to me,
Speaker 6: as far as our specialists positions are to do well,
Speaker 6: I think we need to be a tougher team and
Speaker 6: I think it starts in the trenches. We did it
Speaker 6: with draft a linebacker, and we did it with drafting
Speaker 6: too offensive linemen. That should really make us make the
Speaker 6: culture around here back to be what it used to be,
Speaker 6: especially offensively, be able to run the ball against anybody.
Speaker 6: And when it comes down to playoff football, we're not
Speaker 6: up here. We're not trying to be fancy. We're not
Speaker 6: trying to be big play guys. We're going to grind
Speaker 6: and pound you to the ground. That's what I want
Speaker 6: this team to be.
Speaker 5: And guess who's the happiest of this with this draft
Speaker 5: on what they did Nate and Frisco.
Speaker 4: Oh see that, no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: Nate had been saying I want to offensive linemen and
Speaker 5: he got three.
Speaker 8: Three, but two and I want significance? What about one?
Speaker 4: Maybe I wanted I wanted a wide receiver. I wanted
Speaker 4: my wide receiver in the first round, which is keyon
Speaker 4: Coleman went, I don't think there's and it's not about
Speaker 4: just this year, it's for the next four years. So
Speaker 4: if Brandon Cooks doesn't figure in the equation next year,
Speaker 4: year of the year after basically, And and you're sitting
Speaker 4: here because he's never not fit in Yeah no, by me,
Speaker 4: he's thirty one years old, and you know how long
Speaker 4: do they last? And I just I feel like even
Speaker 4: right now, I mean, there's a reason that you gave
Speaker 4: Michael Gallup this big contract a couple of years ago
Speaker 4: and gave Cooper and gave up a MARII Cooper. Will
Speaker 4: you replace Cooper? Let's say, with Cooks, a veteran guy.
Speaker 4: Where's where's that coming from? That that that second wide
Speaker 4: receiver that Gallup was supposed to be. And maybe it'll
Speaker 4: be Gallop. Maybe they'll resigned Gallup now, maybe have to
Speaker 4: do it after June first. I don't know how that
Speaker 4: works as far. But anyway, your guy went the first
Speaker 4: pick in the first pick of the second round, four
Speaker 4: picks after guiding, and I think that and I we'll
Speaker 4: see what works out with Guidon. I don't think there's
Speaker 4: that big of a difference between Guidon and those tackles
Speaker 4: that they could have gotten in the second round. And
Speaker 4: I think I think that there was a bigger drop
Speaker 4: off from the wide receivers later in the draft from
Speaker 4: what those guys Ricky Piersoll and Xavier Legette and Keon
Speaker 4: Coleman went right after the guide and pick Xavier Worthy
Speaker 4: was in there too, And that was a sweet spot
Speaker 4: to get that weapon, that playmaker on offense that you
Speaker 4: can put alongside that really adds firepower to it. And
Speaker 4: I disliked also the Coleman. This his uh, he is
Speaker 4: so smart and he just has that there's something about
Speaker 4: him that I think he's going to be a star
Speaker 4: in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And they're gonna they're not gonna miss a beat with
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs gone with him there.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 8: I got a little wait, stop right there, kat, I
Speaker 8: want to add to what you said. They're one injury away.
Speaker 4: The way they're set up to be in dire straight receiver.
Speaker 4: That's the That's the other.
Speaker 5: Thing because if one of the top two guys goes down,
Speaker 5: is Jalen Tobert your number two receiver?
Speaker 4: Plus this guy is CD's cousin.
Speaker 8: Yes, all right, I gotta talk to him. Come back in.
Speaker 2: I got a pop.
Speaker 4: Quiz for ever since. Yes, Okay, we're building the perfect
Speaker 4: wide receiver. Okay, I want you it can be a
Speaker 4: current player or a past player. First player that pops
Speaker 4: to mind when I give you these attributes building the
Speaker 4: perfect wide receiver?
Speaker 2: Okay, size you're asking me six three?
Speaker 4: No, not need a player, current player or past player
Speaker 4: who fits that description? Okay size current or past current
Speaker 4: or past player. Where we're going to be everyone can participate.
Speaker 4: I want to see how quickly you can build the
Speaker 4: uh the perfect wide receiver all time? Okay, size does
Speaker 4: as okay, speed buffies, ty h okay, hands.
Speaker 8: D piss Michael okay, route running, Mark Cooper, Michael.
Speaker 4: Strength, oh.
Speaker 2: Oh Seattle number fourteen. Do you make that.
Speaker 4: Competitor Michael Michael still? Yeah, I got Michael that Michael
Speaker 4: uh keon Colemo was asked that in an interview I saw,
Speaker 4: and I was just amazed how quickly he just wrote.
Speaker 4: It was a pop quizz, just all of a sudden.
Speaker 4: First it showed me, and then this shows the in
Speaker 4: these interviews that the teams do, like formal interviews they
Speaker 4: do at the combine, how you can learn very quickly
Speaker 4: about a player, just how much he loves the game,
Speaker 4: how smart he is about the game, he follows it, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: And so the guy asked him size Calvin. I mean,
Speaker 4: it was that quick. The answer speed Tyree hands. He
Speaker 4: thought for a second on hands, and then he went
Speaker 4: Chris Carter, which I was like, WHOA, route running ty
Speaker 4: Ty Adams strength, d K, competitor Randy and some of
Speaker 4: these that quick on each of them, I went, whoa,
Speaker 4: some of these have finished playing before he was born, exactly.
Speaker 2: Randy.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I wanted to do a little test there
Speaker 4: and see y'all did a good job with it too.
Speaker 4: And I agree Michael would I would have on competitor
Speaker 4: now Randy Moss's, you know, but I would have put
Speaker 4: Michael in on the Michael, Michael, Brandy is a competitive
Speaker 4: but yeah, if it wasn't there for for Randy, you know,
Speaker 4: then it wasn't there.
Speaker 2: But Michael, he was going to make it his. He
Speaker 2: was going to make it his.
Speaker 4: And you had the same answers on the speed you
Speaker 4: had Tyreek quickly and fourteen with Seattle DK.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So yeah, the grandfather wasn't alive on Boss.
Speaker 4: Mari on route running too good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm still good. Yeah, I don't know how it
Speaker 6: gets open. It's amazing. I went back and saw some
Speaker 6: of the Dak's big plays. They had them on the
Speaker 6: in andet or whatever, and just seeing how Mary Cooper
Speaker 6: he's a genius, not just the way he runs the route,
Speaker 6: but he puts himself in position to make a play
Speaker 6: on the ball before it's even thrown.
Speaker 2: I just thought that was amazing to me.
Speaker 6: Some of the Dak's passes weren't that good at all,
Speaker 6: and somehow he maneuvered itself in between the dB two
Speaker 6: DB's at one point and was able to catch the ball.
Speaker 6: He doesn't let them know the ball is coming. They
Speaker 6: don't know it's coming. He's just running his route. They
Speaker 6: have no idea if the last minute boom and he's
Speaker 6: going inside two guys hear each other he's going for
Speaker 6: a touchdown.
Speaker 2: I missed that guy.
Speaker 4: Subtleties, but he does know.
Speaker 2: And that was the Drew Pearson thing as well. It's
Speaker 2: the subtleties. That's why a guy.
Speaker 6: That run as slow as he could was able to
Speaker 6: make the plays that he made. He knew exactly what
Speaker 6: he was doing while he was running the route.
Speaker 4: That's another category savvy.
Speaker 2: There you go, Bill, and.
Speaker 8: Let me point one more thing out.
Speaker 5: So, during all this talk of leading up to the draft,
Speaker 5: everybody was sort of upset that the Cowboys hadn't sign
Speaker 5: Cdie Lamb to an extension. And what I've been saying
Speaker 5: is the agents with Justin Jefferson and himself, it's like
Speaker 5: no one wants to it's cat and mouse. No one
Speaker 5: wants to be the first sign because the other guy
Speaker 5: might sign for more.
Speaker 8: Well, guess what I found out.
Speaker 5: The two agents, the one for Justin Jefferson and the
Speaker 5: one and who's in the same boat because he's on
Speaker 5: a five year, fifty year option deal. His is nineteen,
Speaker 5: CD's eighteen. They both belong to the same agents, so
Speaker 5: neither guy wants to be the first to go. It's
Speaker 5: almost like they're colluding right now. And during one of
Speaker 5: the interviews, pointed out it's not about just us trying
Speaker 5: to sign our guy. He goes, there's other things else
Speaker 5: going on in the league with other teams, and that
Speaker 5: was what he was talking about. Because Jamar Chase Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: he's looking for a deal too before the next year
Speaker 5: he has to play on his fifty year option. And
Speaker 5: we just saw aj Brown sign for an average of
Speaker 5: thirty two million dollar extension. So going up, I'm sure
Speaker 5: everybody's asking for forty and then we'll see where it
Speaker 5: goes from there.
Speaker 8: I'll guarantee.
Speaker 6: So let's say you know thirty he said thirty two mil.
Speaker 6: Is what you just said average three years?
Speaker 2: I got thirty one meal. Then I'm a failure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you're an agent, that's right.
Speaker 5: And the other guy that just signed did thirty somebody
Speaker 5: signed an extension?
Speaker 8: Oh Philadelphia?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm an agent.
Speaker 6: I can't light my cigar because I got you got
Speaker 6: one million less?
Speaker 8: Right see? And he signed he didn't even he didn't either.
Speaker 5: He didn't need an extension when they signed him to
Speaker 5: an extension, and it's going to average I think twenty
Speaker 5: five million. Well in about three years when he gets
Speaker 5: into that extension, he's going to be going, well, wait
Speaker 5: a minute, that guy's making forty. And it's the same
Speaker 5: thing with the quarterbacks too, by.
Speaker 2: The way, it's the same position you have.
Speaker 4: Anything he goes out with.
Speaker 7: You know what, Next week it's.
Speaker 4: Called you savvy because you're savvy sport.
Speaker 7: Next week, I want to dive into the NFC East
Speaker 7: and what other teams did in this draft, because you
Speaker 7: know what, the Cowboys are going to have a lot
Speaker 7: of other competitors on these other teams. Jaden Daniels out there,
Speaker 7: Philly drafts three defensive players in the first three rounds,
Speaker 7: So I want to look at what we are matched
Speaker 7: up against.
Speaker 4: What trade, what trade? What trade will the Cowboys make
Speaker 4: with the Commanders before next Monday. Nicky, you heard Jerry
Speaker 4: at the press conference talk about you got new defensive
Speaker 4: coordinator here, new defensive coordinator there. And sometimes those players
Speaker 4: that they inherit, they don't fit the scheme. There's something
Speaker 4: in the mix there that could be happening where a
Speaker 4: Cowboy gets traded for a Commander. I don't know, that's
Speaker 4: what he seemed to be alluding to that.
Speaker 6: And let's not also free number seventeen is on the
Speaker 6: for the for the Commanders is on the on the
Speaker 6: on the blots.
Speaker 4: Mcle no, no, no, I'm taking defensive players because you
Speaker 4: got Quinn and Zimmer with two different style defense.
Speaker 5: And let's not forget with all these running, all these
Speaker 5: running drafted, some guys are going to be out of
Speaker 5: a job that you recognize their names.
Speaker 8: So it's not over till it's over.
Speaker 4: Well, we've got a recognizable name that's right here. The
Speaker 4: eighth round draft pick Zeke Elliott and that does it
Speaker 4: for a draft recapp edition of Mixed Shots, and we
Speaker 4: shout at you again next Monday at eleven am, Go Cowboys.
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