WEBVTT - Jeremy Bloom

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this

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<v Speaker 1>is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>They's getting down to do it. Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>am about it, then we're about to let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all. I just got back back in town, came

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<v Speaker 1>back and I was up in though I was up

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<v Speaker 1>in Big Sky. Was that Montana? Montana? Yeah, ain't a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of brothers in. I was gonna say, school, Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you up in Big Scott? What was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Montana? What was going on in those Montana streets?

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<v Speaker 1>The slopes, Montena slopes. I was. I was out their

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<v Speaker 1>skin and it was good. It was fun. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>um that's my happy place. Okay, it's my favorite place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just peaceful, man. It's uh, you're just on the mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>No agendas. Uh, well, there's agenda not to fall and

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<v Speaker 1>if you look to you know, try to avoid bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Like last year we were out there and uh we

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<v Speaker 1>left and there was a bear. Um, but it's um

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<v Speaker 1>just a good opportunity, good good, good fellowship. There's about

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<v Speaker 1>there's about fifteen of us, about three houses, five or

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<v Speaker 1>six rental, all guys nice, all guys UM and these

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<v Speaker 1>guys all most of them, majority of them, Uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they went to college, like the core guys went to college.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some guys who went to Florida. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm friends with a guy that wanted core guys together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>went the four together. And then I'm friends with want

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<v Speaker 1>of the core guys. Um, d C shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>d C and over the ears is just they invite

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<v Speaker 1>people that they feel um that brings something to the table,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's energy, uh, personality and also too, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are you trustworthy a little bit right? And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's all good fun ski um. We eat play cards,

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<v Speaker 1>tell jokes, talk crap to each other. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a it's like a Baschlard trip without the bachelornus.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no bachelors. It's it's literally it is

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<v Speaker 1>four or five days of during the day's skin in

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<v Speaker 1>the evenings and in the mornings you're catching up on

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<v Speaker 1>work emails and it's just you just skiing. Man, it's um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some good skiers, there's some guys who don't belong.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me the ski highlights, so ski highlight, um any

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<v Speaker 1>new contraptions. So so so here here's what happened, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you say, man, Steve's a skier, like

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<v Speaker 1>when I said, I just enjoyed skinning, that's my little

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<v Speaker 1>happy place. So when I go back in my history, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I had moonlight basin, I skied seventeen point nine miles.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that my max speed was forty five point eight.

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<v Speaker 1>That was downhill. I was moving average speed sixteen ski

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<v Speaker 1>Nissan total was sinned. So I was high as fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand four. Man, I ain't never and then just altitude

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred nine thousand, two hundred and fifty four and

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<v Speaker 1>I hit twelve runs, seventeen slopes. That was day one.

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<v Speaker 1>Day two, oh yeah, day two that's what I was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good, twenty three slopes, so we we showed

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<v Speaker 1>improvement day too. Oh yeah. But but but the last

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<v Speaker 1>day that's when I got after twenty two miles, I

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<v Speaker 1>got as high as thirteen thousand. I was well. I

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<v Speaker 1>switched over to this little thing called a snow snow

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<v Speaker 1>god bike. It's like a ski it's like a tricycle

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<v Speaker 1>for skiers and you put your feet in. I get

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<v Speaker 1>to wear uh snowboarding boots. So if you ever skied,

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<v Speaker 1>it puts a lot of pressure on your feet and

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<v Speaker 1>you're locked in. Man, this snow this snow good bike.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fire. It was skiing but without being locked in.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have a little snowboard freeness. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>little hybrid eat bro. It was awesome, like is it was?

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<v Speaker 1>It was nice, it was. It was good, especially after

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<v Speaker 1>skiing for you know, seven eight nine hours every day

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<v Speaker 1>and to have this one. So it was nice. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy skinning because it's just it's a quiet place.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no economic status, there's no racial status. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>you can either ski or you can't. And if you can't,

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<v Speaker 1>only only person that really it impacts is yourself. So

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy it. I love it. Man. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the few places, um, I could just be me right

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<v Speaker 1>and you get on. You know, you're on the slope

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<v Speaker 1>next to somebody and sometimes you have conversations, sometimes you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's Uh. Skiing is fun but also too if you.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're on the ski lift. You can also people watch.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see people who you can see who You

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<v Speaker 1>can see people who have gotten on the slope and

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<v Speaker 1>they realize they're green, which is easy, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know they're on the blue, which is difficult or experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they they're blue, but they thank they're black diamonds,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the black diamonds. I don't go on

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<v Speaker 1>some of the black diamonds because of the name. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that is that is that the most some

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<v Speaker 1>black diamonds is that that's like a black belt of skin. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what it is. Yes, it's a black belt, which

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<v Speaker 1>is you can get your ass. We here's some of

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<v Speaker 1>the names of some of the black diamonds, bone crusher,

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<v Speaker 1>sticks and stones, and the last one the wittoe maker. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the widow make. Yeah that ain't that ain't good? No,

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<v Speaker 1>that ain't good. I'm not going on that one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>telling you if you do not belong here, you have

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<v Speaker 1>found out, you will find out the hard way that

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't have got on this. So maybe that's reserved

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<v Speaker 1>for like your a length type of skiers. Ain't it

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<v Speaker 1>ain't for me? That's all I know I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 1>on anything that says you can die in their name

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<v Speaker 1>tag widow maker. I enjoy the skin. It's nice, it's fun,

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<v Speaker 1>it's um. You get up on that mountain clear air.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh it was nice, and you know, it snowed a

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<v Speaker 1>few days and it was clear. But one of the

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<v Speaker 1>cool things is you go high enough. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>I was high enough that you felt like, if I

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<v Speaker 1>can just take another ski left up, I can maybe

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<v Speaker 1>touch the clouds on on the way up to the

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<v Speaker 1>ski left. That's how high the mound was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. And that's that's hot. That is high high.

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<v Speaker 1>That's higher than stoop Dog. It's really I ain't never

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<v Speaker 1>been there, but man, it was awesome. Man. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. It's it's just a great place. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it. And I think we got

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<v Speaker 1>someone coming up who has their fair share of experience

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to skin as well. Well. Listen, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the guy that I think you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so I'm gonna try sits compared to him,

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<v Speaker 1>like I still got my training wheels on. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the cut to a podcast. Jeremy bloom um Man, Good friend. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>are you loving time World Cup gold medalists, three time

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<v Speaker 1>World champion, two time Olympia, former skier, farmer, NFL player,

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<v Speaker 1>but also a Colorado University of Colorado outstanding playmaker. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for coming on the cut to a podcast. Make

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<v Speaker 1>yourself at home, get comfortable. Yes, man, We're gonna jump

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<v Speaker 1>right into it. Listen when you're down. What makes you

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<v Speaker 1>feel better? Ice cream cake? Okay, cream cream cookie dough oreo,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it, um, chocolate chip cookies. I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>dessert guike. In fact, I learned how to ski by

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<v Speaker 1>my grandfather throwing candy bars down the mountain. True story three,

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<v Speaker 1>Ages three, four and five. The grand grandfather got off

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<v Speaker 1>the lift through candy bars down the mountain, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I was good enough to ski down and find them,

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<v Speaker 1>I could eat them. So I've been a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a dessert guid my life. Have you tried that training

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<v Speaker 1>on anyone else? Not yet, But but I have an

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<v Speaker 1>eleven eleven month old daughter in the house. You will

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<v Speaker 1>be learning the same way. What can what candy bar? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>He threw Snickers and Mars candy bars. Those were his favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, man? In place you would like to travel,

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<v Speaker 1>but haven't done it yet? Where and why haven't you

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<v Speaker 1>done it? I would say, I mean, I think Antarctica

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<v Speaker 1>would be a bucket list thing. Obviously it's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get down there. There's not a lot down there,

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<v Speaker 1>but just to be able to go to all all

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<v Speaker 1>the continents I think would be pretty special. So at

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<v Speaker 1>some point I'd like to get down there. Um. The

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<v Speaker 1>other one I guess would be New Zealand. I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to track and hike the Milford Sound down there. It's just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really incredible beautiful landscape and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>love being outside and in the nature. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think New Zealand and Antarctica are two on the list.

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<v Speaker 1>And article is definitely on brand for you. Butther like me,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't going to an article. I don't think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are putting that over on Brandford Jeremy Nough,

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<v Speaker 1>What what's the most beautiful drive you've you've taken? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, you know, you know, I was part

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States key team for a bunch of years.

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<v Speaker 1>We would compete. We'd start the season in Europe and

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<v Speaker 1>we'd ski um the Pyrenees, like you know, in in France.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd we'd ski the Alps, you know, in Switzerland, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>see ski the Dolomites in Italy. Um, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nothing can compare to that, certainly nothing I've

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<v Speaker 1>experienced in the United States, because the mountains are just

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<v Speaker 1>so much higher, not from an elevation perspective, but the

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<v Speaker 1>town's basically started sea level. And if the mountains go

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<v Speaker 1>up to you know whatever, eight thousand feet, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just they look like Mount Everest. So I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, driving in in the in the Alps or

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolomites are the Pyrenees, it's just you know, otherworldly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty incredible over there. Um, are the Alps rowed

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<v Speaker 1>like in Colorado and in Utah. I heard they're a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more dangerous. The Alps are are more there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's less trees in the Alps, so there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of tree skiing. It's just like big mountains, open

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<v Speaker 1>mountains and runs for days, and a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>ski area is in In Europe, you can ski from

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<v Speaker 1>country to country, that's how big they are. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>can ski from one country and go have lunch in

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<v Speaker 1>another country and then ski back and take take the lifts.

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<v Speaker 1>Um but you know, they do groop some of the

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<v Speaker 1>some of the runs some of the mountains, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>more off piece, more back country skiing than than typically

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<v Speaker 1>like in Colorado. Is that why you have I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>you have more injuries out there skiing out there, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard that some of the some of the of

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<v Speaker 1>the skiing out there is a little less um they

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<v Speaker 1>have less warning, they have less you know, understanding where

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<v Speaker 1>you are because you know you're in Colorado. You know

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<v Speaker 1>a skiing utah a lot, and there's just like you

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're going off, you know, off the trail,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hear in Europe you you don't find out

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<v Speaker 1>until your off the trail and down the hill you

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<v Speaker 1>are spot on, Steve, That's exactly how it is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're the land of regulations here in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>We have regulations for the regulations, and that certainly plays

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<v Speaker 1>out in skiing. Like you don't have to be very

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent or a good skier to follow the regulations in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. But yes, over and over in Europe, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they they don't really tell you if you're going off

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<v Speaker 1>peace or off mountain. You really have to pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to like the runs because you will find yourself so

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<v Speaker 1>in the complete back country, and those back country runs

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<v Speaker 1>would be a black diamond or or or harder blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you would anticipate where you know and like Utah

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<v Speaker 1>or Colorado, you can you'll see it as well lit

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<v Speaker 1>and understand you go down this, well, this is now

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<v Speaker 1>a mogul right and am I am I off base

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<v Speaker 1>because going going to the Swiss helps is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those that that's that's one of my bucket lists that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm going to do. But I'm also a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit hesitant because of the runs just aren't well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a lot of good direction. Now, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine as long as you pay attention. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta go to Zermatt. If you go to Switzerland,

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<v Speaker 1>you've gotta skiser Mat. It's probably the best ski area

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Um, it's the Paramount Paramount pictures. You

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<v Speaker 1>know the mountain from the Paramount. That's that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>mountains you know comes from. It's it's it's in Zermatt, Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. It's an incredible town. Um, I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>will be great on skis. I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>you've skiwed before I went to snowboarding with Troy palamalo

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<v Speaker 1>Um and it was hilarious because he snowboards just like

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<v Speaker 1>he played football. Like he's just absolutely fearless, like trying

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<v Speaker 1>backflips when he had no business doing backflips, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just you know, you guys are guys are fearless.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been skiing since two thousand three college. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you ski when you went to Yeah? I skied out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then once I was done, once I graduated, once

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<v Speaker 1>I left college, I started skiing. So I ski now

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<v Speaker 1>and I go to Utah. I primarily go to Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a breaking ridge. I think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>breaking ridge. We've been a breaking ridge. That you were

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<v Speaker 1>with me, you were you were with me when my

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<v Speaker 1>GPS didin't regulated and just yet, no, when you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>I was with Colorado Colorado, I still don't remember the name.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was in I know it was in Veil,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it was breaking ridge. So we did

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<v Speaker 1>breaking Ridge, um. But mainly I do the canyons because

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<v Speaker 1>I have an epic paths, so that's that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>liked going. And I'm one of those guys too, like uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need them, but I've had them long enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I need some new ski boots. And then because I

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<v Speaker 1>need new ski boots, I needed some new new ski pants.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go to hold, just go to whole nine, get

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Yeah, absolutely, like, yeah, I think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I think the only thing I want. Said

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<v Speaker 1>you look good, but you don't buy. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>hear yeah he said yeah, but yeah, I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>something was a little really good on the left, Brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>get off the left. I just I just drink. So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's get into a man. Where are you

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<v Speaker 1>from in the place you call your hometown. I'm from Loveland, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>born and raised. It's northern Colorado, kind of outside of Boulder,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to school at the University of Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>played football there, made a couple of stints in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Steelers and in the philip the Eagles. So

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<v Speaker 1>lived out on the East Coast for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, you know, for the last decade, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>really focused on building a nonprofit Wish of a Lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>We grant wishes to nine hundred year old people. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been just an incredible journey and then building a company,

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<v Speaker 1>UM Integrated and we're enterprise software business, and we were

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<v Speaker 1>recently acquired by a private equity firm by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Autex. It's based in Boston, and so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great milestone for everybody involved in the business and about

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, about three employees globally. And now we're working

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<v Speaker 1>inside of Audex to to build an even bigger business.

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<v Speaker 1>So those two things keep me pretty busy. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>currently residing back in Colorado. UM and living in Boulder

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<v Speaker 1>still feels like you just scratching the surface and all

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<v Speaker 1>the things you're either doing or have done. You just

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<v Speaker 1>a man of many gifts and talents. I'm grateful I've

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<v Speaker 1>been very blessed and been able to, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>just try a lot of different things in life, from football,

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<v Speaker 1>the skiing, to building a nonprofit, building a business, to

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<v Speaker 1>being on the front lines of bringing name, image and

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<v Speaker 1>likeness to to college athletes. Of course, I had my

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<v Speaker 1>own battles with against Double A, you know, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Colorado. Get into that, because I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't really realize the extent of what

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<v Speaker 1>you have to deal with personally found you know, professionally

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<v Speaker 1>and what it did, how it held you back, how

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<v Speaker 1>it impacted you, um you know amateurly and and and professionally.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how what it did to Yo psyche as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll get into that. But man, um man, growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in Colorado the mountains, skiing, snowboarding, and you were

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<v Speaker 1>destined to do extreme sports. But what what what really

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<v Speaker 1>captured your heart and having such a strong desire to

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<v Speaker 1>want to do sports at at such a young age

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<v Speaker 1>and what was that age? Yeah, it really happened because

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<v Speaker 1>it too defining moments in my life. The first was

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<v Speaker 1>and I was born in nineteen eighty two. John Elwood

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<v Speaker 1>was drafted in nineteen eighty two. We were a huge

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Bronco fans, so from a very young age, I

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<v Speaker 1>would watch the Denver Broncos play football every Sunday with

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<v Speaker 1>my with my dad. So I wanted to be John

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<v Speaker 1>Elway from a very young age. Of football really was

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<v Speaker 1>the dream. First, I only grew to five ft nine,

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<v Speaker 1>so the idea of being a quarterback was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thrown out the window and was moved to receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. And then when I was ten years of age, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the Olympics for the first time the Winter

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics and I saw skiing, and I saw a guy

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Edgar gross Berraun win an Olympic

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<v Speaker 1>gold medal in front of his hometown crowd in Team France.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was really at that moment. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been skiing for about seven years, just casually as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with my family, it's really at that moment

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<v Speaker 1>where I told my parents I wanted to skiing the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics and I wanted to play in the NFL. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I wanted to dedicate my my whole life, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my my childhood an earlier adulthood to to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to live out both of those dreams. So I

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<v Speaker 1>knew pretty young, um that I wanted to be a

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<v Speaker 1>skier and a football player. What was your parents response

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<v Speaker 1>when you said you want to do both of those things?

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<v Speaker 1>That he said he wanted to dedicate his life. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I want to ask, as from a from

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<v Speaker 1>a standpoint, what was their response, because I know my

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<v Speaker 1>mom would go somewhere, I want to dedicate my life

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<v Speaker 1>to ski like that is that is such abnormal statement

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<v Speaker 1>for a kid like I want to be a not

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be a football player. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a skier. But when you say I want to

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<v Speaker 1>dedicate my life, I'm just I'm like, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get clean your room. Hey, brother, just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get accrustable. Seriously, what was the response? So, so,

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<v Speaker 1>both my parents have always had a healthy disrespect for

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<v Speaker 1>the impossible, and so you know, both of them said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can do that if you attack your dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>and they you know, they conditioned us at a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>young age to know that life wasn't going to give

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<v Speaker 1>us any handouts. You know, we weren't kids that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if we fell down and hurt ourselves, we weren't allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to complain for too long. We were getting up putting

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<v Speaker 1>some duct tape on it, and you know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>were keep you know, we were going to keep moving

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<v Speaker 1>and if we if we didn't succeeded something, we were

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<v Speaker 1>never allowed to kind of blame other people. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were conditioned at a young age to know that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, life is hard. Accomplishing great things is really hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you want to be world class and anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you better work harder than anybody else, and you better

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<v Speaker 1>go attack your dreams and goals, and so that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the framework in which way you know, my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>sister and I were raised, and so you know, at TWN,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that if I wanted to do that, I

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<v Speaker 1>did have to dedicate my life, I did have to

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<v Speaker 1>work harder than anybody else. And if I did that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when I went and attack it, then who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I could acknowledge it. I love cut to It,

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<v Speaker 1>to Smithie where where at at cut to It? On Instagram?

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<v Speaker 1>dot um where you can buy merch and you can

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.280
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to this wherever you listen to podcasts. I got

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<v Speaker 1>all my answers questions, UM, yeah, I got all my

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<v Speaker 1>questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother cut

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<v Speaker 1>to a podcast dot com. How did you attack from

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<v Speaker 1>that point forward? UM? I really focused on putting in

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<v Speaker 1>more hours than anybody else. And whether that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in at the regional levels of skiing in the

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<v Speaker 1>early days where I was just competing with folks and

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<v Speaker 1>kids in Colorado. I would observe what they did. I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would see how they trained, I would see

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<v Speaker 1>how long did they spent on it, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>try to just do more um and and same in

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<v Speaker 1>in football. I had to do more in football. I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I was born with more ability

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<v Speaker 1>and skiing. From a very young age, coaches said, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>you you know you could ski in the Olympics. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a you have a pretty pretty good ability. I

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<v Speaker 1>was the smallest kid on every football field I ever

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<v Speaker 1>stepped on, and most people outside of my inner circle

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<v Speaker 1>would would would commonly say, like, what do you do

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<v Speaker 1>and playing football? You're gonna get hurt. You're a good skier,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you got a future there quits quit football and

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<v Speaker 1>go focus on skiing. But but again, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>watched guys like Steve Smith, you know, and and Steve

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<v Speaker 1>knows this, but like, there was no receiver who I

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<v Speaker 1>looked up to more my entire life, and Steve Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and I watched thousands of hours. And Steve was nice

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<v Speaker 1>enough to send me some some clips when I was

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<v Speaker 1>at um at the Eagles on how to get off

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage against press coverage, and nobody did

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<v Speaker 1>it better period, Like I'll go to battle that one

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<v Speaker 1>and and played you know, at five nine, but played

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<v Speaker 1>like six ft four. I I tried to embody everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's Steve that you you you brought to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the football field, and that helped me a lot, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think inherently just from a you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>hype weight skill set perspective, I should have had success

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<v Speaker 1>in college. I should have been drafted the NFL. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I really had to try to overachieve and and

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<v Speaker 1>try to work really hard, um to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>having success that that I didn't support. Well, that leads

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<v Speaker 1>me to you know one, first of all, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate you telling your fans and our fans

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<v Speaker 1>just the willingness that you had. And then also obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the report that we had when you were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just coming out and just being drafted. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I always I watched them and they were talking about this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this low receiver, this low returner. What I saw was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who was dynamic, who was an instant impact

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<v Speaker 1>player at Colorado. UM. I just love the way he played. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But really What caught my attention was all of the

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<v Speaker 1>who blah, to get you on the football field, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get we'll still we're still holding that tight. But

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<v Speaker 1>with all the success that you had at such a

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<v Speaker 1>young age, how much was football still tugging at you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you are now you're you're talking about at the

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<v Speaker 1>By the age of fifteen, he became the youngest freestyles

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<v Speaker 1>scared to ever make the US ski team. Hey, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the biggest stages, You're in all these different countries,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet that pig scale was still called. It never

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<v Speaker 1>stopped calling Steve ever, you know, not after I won

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<v Speaker 1>my first World championship, not after I made my first

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on? How old were you? First years old?

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<v Speaker 1>What what did that do for you? It was a

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<v Speaker 1>surreal moment in my life because I won that World

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<v Speaker 1>championship the same year that I was named as a

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<v Speaker 1>freshman All American at the University of Colorado. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here at nineteen thinking of myself. I'm living out

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<v Speaker 1>my wildest childhood dreams. And on on one hand, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just over the moon excited because the feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>being the best in the world, of knowing there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a single other person on this planet who is better

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<v Speaker 1>at what you do. Improving that I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>do in skiing is an incredible feeling. But on the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, it really made me start thinking about life

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<v Speaker 1>after sports, because it's like, Okay, I'm like nineteen on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the world. It's not gonna last forever. Where

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to put all this passion that I

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<v Speaker 1>have um for football and skiing when when it's all

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<v Speaker 1>over and I was really you know, that fear of

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<v Speaker 1>living an unfulfilled life beyond sports really drove me to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of plant a lot of different seeds outside of

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<v Speaker 1>athletics over the next decade from nineteen or twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>That ultimately led me to the path I am now um,

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>but but anytime gosh, winning the world championship, being the

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>best in the world and knowing that all the blood

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>swept two years, long hours, you know, all the failures

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>along the way, we're just avenged and I'm the best

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>in the world was a really cool feeling. But from

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>a mental standpoint, how are you? How are you balancing that?

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I had to learn how to balance it, really um,

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't good at it in the beginning. It's

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's a bit ironic because in third grade, I

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>probably you know, spent more time practicing my autograph than

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I did in math or science or any other subject.

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>I always had this drive to be known in the world,

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to be famous in the world, and then I reached

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the level of notoriety and and and fame, and I

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>absolutely hated it. I hated the fact that people I

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't know had a preconceived notion of who I was.

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I read too many press clippings at

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that age, and I would, you know, get really down

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>on you anytime somebody would say something bad about me.

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I wasn't very good at at nineteen

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>or twenty or twenty one. It took me a couple

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>of years to kind of figure out how to deal

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>with that type of spotlight. I think it's fair to say,

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>you you are becoming one of the youngest freestyle skiers

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:02.719
<v Speaker 1>at age fifteen, your champion at nineteen, I'm going out

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>on a limb. It's pretty safe to say you're really

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>just discovering puberty, hormones, success failure. You're learning about your

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>own heart as you are developing it and experiencing these

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>things for the very first time. And yet you got

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>these grown folk who don't even know you writing articles

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that impacts who people perceive you to be. And yeah,

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you barely know yourself based on this new Jeremy Bloom,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you're Jeremy Bloom, the youngest freestyle on the Olympic team

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>or the US ski team. A year and a half later,

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>two years later, three years later, four years later, you're

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Blue. Who's nineteen, who's eighteen. You're figuring it out

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>as you go, but you are a young man experiencing

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>grown men achievements and talking to grown men and women

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>who are now judging you with the same critical I

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but not giving you that grace of a little kid.

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>That you are so well said, and that that resonates

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>with me. Every word you said resonates with me. And

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>at eighteen or nineteen, to your point, you don't, you don't.

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who I was at all, And the

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>more that I would read these articles, to some extent,

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I would build my identity through what people were writing

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know who I was. So I was

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>very influence able, just like any eighteen or nineteen year old.

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I did obviously had to get to

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>a point where I stopped reading the articles, and that

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>was that was a big step for you know, for me,

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm lucky. Look like you know, I've lived a

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>life in a career where most the articles have been positive. Um,

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a superpolarizing figure. Where I've done a lot

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>of controversial things in my life, you know, most of

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>them were you know, pretty positive. I couldn't imagine being

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>someone who's a bit more polarizing at a young age.

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And and and not only you know, reading what's in

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the press, but to your point earlier point, if you

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>have a Twitter handle, you know, now you've got a

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>microphone and you can say whatever you want and tagged

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the person. It's um, it's no wonder that where why

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, mental health issues are you know, on are

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>just skyrocketing, especially you know for young kids. How important

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>was your support system and huge and how good was

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the support system? I was really lucky from a support

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>system perspective, because both my parents have been very involved

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>in my life and great advisors. Both my brother and

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>sister have always kept me grounded and humbled. I'm the

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>youngest and I've never been super cool to them no

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>matter what I've what I've accomplished. And you know, my dad,

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, instill the behavior of being becoming a champion

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>inside of me and my mom and still the behavior

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>of giving back and being humble and and and trying

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to treat people great respect. And so I had, you know,

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I was very lucky with the parents that I had

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>growing up to to instill those values. And then you know,

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I was really fortunate to just meet some exceptional people

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>at a young age. I met John Elway when I

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>was a really young guy, and I, you know, was

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>able to communicate with him and be around him and

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>look up to him. I get met guys like you,

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Steve and and Ben Roethlisberger and Hines Ward and these

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>guys at a very young age, and so I was

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of emulate what what they were doing.

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And in skiing this the same thing was true. You know,

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you befriending world champions at the age of twelve fourteen.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.479
<v Speaker 1>I've always been a big believer like, if you can

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>surround yourself with people who are doing it at the

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>highest level, and you you pay attention to what they're doing,

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and you're a sponge in the room, you got a

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>great chance of maybe becoming them one day. And and

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and uh so I've I've I feel like I'm just

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a product of a lot of the great, amazing people

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I have been around in my life. Take us through

0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>this whole amateur status back in the day, n C

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 1>double a, you're skinning playing football, like, take us through that.

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to press you, but you know, it's

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>been it's been a while, so I just want to,

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, give me some statute of limitations. So I

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>just want you to give your take of what you

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>experience as the individual going through it. My situation was that,

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I graduated high school. Um, I took that

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>next year off to go competed in the Olympics. I

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>just went to the Olympics. Where was the Olympics at

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>that time? That you took a year, you took a

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>gap year. I took in Salt Lake City, Okay, So

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I went to the Olympics, and then I

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>enrolled in the University of Colorado and I had a

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>full ride scholarship there. When I enrolled in the University Colorad,

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I was nineteen. I was the number one ranks skier

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in the world and in an Olympian and the n

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>C double A said, all right, well, if you're gonna,

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna play amateur football for the color of buffaloes,

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't accept any money and skiing because that would

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>make you a professional. But I said, well, wait, that's

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>hypocritical because you allow other amateur athletes to be professional

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in one sport and an amateur and another couple of examples,

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Drew Henson made over one point five million dollars playing

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>professional baseball and amateur football at Michigan. Rickie Williams did

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the same in Texas, and there's a bunch of other examples.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>And so I said, well, how is that any different.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm a skier, you know, No, I don't play baseball,

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>but I'm skiing for the United States. And anyway, they

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>said no, no, no, and I sued them in Boulder

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>District Court. Unfortunately, my my judge sided with the n

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>C double A was reluctant to modernize the system and

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>structure at that point in time. So I had to,

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, tear up all my endorsement contracts and any

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>ability to make money as a skier and pay for

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>my you know, it's very expensive to fly around the

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>world and have coaches or whatever. UM. And I did

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that for two years, playing for the University color Otto, UM,

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>not accepting any endorsements or accepting any victory money for

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>skiing because I, you know, I had a dream to

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>play for the car of Buffalos. And then after my

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>sophomore year, I was just broke and I wanted to

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>go to the two thousand and six Olympics in Italy.

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I knew I wouldn't be able to do it unless

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I accepted endorsements, and so I accepted endorsements. I told

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the unstable and I'm not leaving that after kicking me

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.720
<v Speaker 1>out of school, and they waited about six seven months,

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and right before fall camp my junior season, they declared

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>me permanently ineligible for taking ski ski endorsement money. What

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>did that do to I? Was? I was infuriated. I

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>was so piste off. I you know, it was the

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>hardest pill I think I've probably ever had to swallow,

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>because here I was, I worked so incredibly hard to

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>be in this position, UM, to to have an opportunity

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to play college football, to have an opportunity to skip

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 1>for the United States. My coaches on both sides for Fine.

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I was having a lot of success in both sports,

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 1>and an organization that I didn't know a single person

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 1>that ever spoke anybody yet in Indianapolis took away my

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>dream of being the number one receiver on my car

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>to Buffalo team my junior and senior season. My sophomore year,

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I was the number three receiver behind two very good receivers.

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>One went off went to play in the NFL, the

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>other one was a free agent for a while. And

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that's really what I wanted to do. I wanted to

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>be the number one receiver. I wanted to have a

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>chance to prove that I could be number one receiver

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>on a on a team. That development that I would

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 1>have gotten my junior and senior year is is invaluable.

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I never got that And to think that it was

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>all taken away from me by this, you know, kind

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of nameless organization in Midnapolis, n C double A who

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, the judge, the jury, the execution or what

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>they say go. They don't have to be held accountable

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to anybody. Um. It was frustrating. It was really really

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>frustrating for me, and it was hard to go back

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to the games. You know, I would go to some

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>of the games watch from the stands and just it

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>would eat me up inside, absolutely me up inside. And

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>what way did they plant some of the seeds of

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing now some of you were with integrate.

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>How much did that kind of I don't know, you

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>probably didn't know then, but how did that point those seats? Well,

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the seeds that it really planned was I was going

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to dedicate whatever portion I needed to in my life

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to fight for name, image and like to fight for

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.439
<v Speaker 1>student athlete rights because I didn't want anybody. I didn't

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>want another athlete to ever have to go through what

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I went through. And so I testified in Congress on

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>d process in the n double a. UM. We put

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>out a documentary last year on on on Vice called

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.439
<v Speaker 1>College Sports Game, which they did a phenomenal job telling

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>story of amateurism. UM. I've answered every call from every

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>state senator, worked closely with senators from California to Colorado

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to work on the image and likeness, and you know,

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately we got there, you know, and now we're living

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>in in a time where student athletes have rights and

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>not only do they have rights in another sport like

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I was asked for that they have rights in their

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>own sports. So like you know, they can capitalize on

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>their name, image and likeness and ability, and I think

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that's what's right. I know that it's going to create

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>some complexities for athletic directors and and coaches. You know,

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you got the transfer portal now and people can freely transfer,

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and you got some other challenges. But but you know,

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>ultimately comes down to a civil rights issue of those kids.

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 1>That's their ability, that's their name, it's their image, it's

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>their likeness. If they want to monetize it, to monetize it,

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they should be able to do it, just like you can. Yeah,

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.320
<v Speaker 1>they should be able to monetize it because the colleges

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>are monetized. And what most people don't realize when they

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.439
<v Speaker 1>even think about those numbers is that you know, they think, well,

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, the n C double A pays for scholarships,

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>or these schools pay for the scholarships and it comes

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>out of the athletic department. Well that's not the case.

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>In most of the big schools. You have individual donors.

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Had a scholarship donor Neiversity Colora who paid for my education,

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and individual Roy Durbin was his name. So the university

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Colorado didn't pay for my education and didn't pay for

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>my education. Roy Durbin did. And so all the billions

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>of dollars that's coming in through through college athletics and

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>certainly football and basketball, all of that's going to who cool,

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it's going to the coaches, it's it's going to schools,

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and none of it, very very little, hardly any of

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>it is going to the people on the field who

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the people buy tickets to go see. How about how

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>about this my scholarship Stephen Angie Smith Wide Receiver Scholarship.

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Every year I get the new name and a plaque

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>of the receiver they reached the benefit of my scholarship.

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>The wide Receiver's meeting room at the University of Utah.

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith, wide Receiver calling about seventy five the music

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 1>that has played coming out of the tunnel before the

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>home game at the University of Utah. Mm hmm. I

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>wrote to check for being part of the school. I

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>start to see, like, wow, now I get to see

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>when I was the player, I didn't realize the tunnel

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>wheel coming out of, or the or the seat cushion

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I was sitting in someone else paid for. I do

0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>believe the honor of pain. Because a complete stranger paid

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>for my tush to be cushioned before the game, that

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I am responsible for reciprocating the same thing, Shaky Smith.

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he was a receiver. I don't think I

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>ever met him, but it's the point of it's not

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>about who he was, it was the purpose of who

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 1>he could be, the same way the complete stranger said

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>who I can be. And so I think it's my

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>inherent right and duty to pay for that complete stranger

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the same way a complete stranger pay for me. Forward, Yes, sir,

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>because if it wasn't for that complete stranger, there's a

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>trickle down in fact that I don't want to know

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>what I would have not experienced. I probably wouldn't be

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, for a factor, I wouldn't have the opportunity

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to be doing this podcast. I and they're going to

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>be friends with you because of that complete stranger, because

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>of that cushioncy good do it, Good do it. Let's

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:15.320
<v Speaker 1>get down to do it. Hey, Gerard, why did you

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>get that T shirt? You mean? Oh yes, I got

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:20.360
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0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.520
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0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.560
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0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 1>you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you listen

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 1>to podcasts. What added pressure did you feel after getting drafted,

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>having to walk away from skiing and then started, you know,

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a new venture in the area that you you believe

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:47.720
<v Speaker 1>exactly what you wanted, but you went to a place

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>that it's a little brun It ain't like Colorado. I

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>can tell you that you got drafted by the Philadelphicia Eagles. Yeah,

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>so you know a twenty three when I got drafted,

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that's in time. I knew how to deal with pressure.

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I had skied into Olympics, I played in big twelveth

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>championship games. So it wasn't the pressure that I think

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>got to me at all. It was it was the

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:14.800
<v Speaker 1>attention of being a rookie on a team without proving

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 1>any of my worth and having all the cameras on

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>me that bothered me. And that also bothered me at

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the University Colorado when I was a freshman, before I

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>did anything because because of the two sport nature of it,

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and the last thing I wanted to do was you know,

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>turn off my new teammates to you know, the the

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>attention that I was receiving. So I try to do,

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the best to minimize that. The biggest challenge

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I had in the NFL was I hadn't run with

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>cleats on for two straight years. I underestimated the impact

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>that that would have um And so the you know,

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the muscles that you used to to really sprint and

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>be a receiver and cut and get out of brakes

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>like the hamstrings and and some of the calf muscles

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that you don't use, and skiing just for underdeveloped, not

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 1>at all, it's not at all. You're literally in a

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>so like you know, like two years I not. You know,

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>if I had to do it over, I just I

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>would have crossed trained more during that two thousand, five

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.479
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six having up to the the Olympics, because when

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I got and it didn't happen immediately, but when I

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>got into training camp and you know, Steve, like how

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>many miles you need to sprint during those training camps

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and your body's got to be really well conditioned to

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>take on you know that that type of situation, My

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 1>answering just popped, you know, it reached the point where

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>it didn't have the stamina and enter the mussels in it,

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>and uh that that created a challenging situation for me.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what I found so interested when we were get

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>ready to talk with you, is that being a two

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>sport athlete is one thing, but you were two sport

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>athletes that use very very distinct muscle groups. Right, Like

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you just talked about your feet being in boots, Whereas

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're playing football, you're having to use so many

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>foot movements, right, cuts, getting out of brakes, all that stuff.

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 1>So like, how how are you able? I mean, of course,

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, unfortunately it ended with your hamstring, but throughout

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>when you were playing in high school and in college,

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>how were you able to balance these two sports from

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:15.399
<v Speaker 1>a from a physical standpoint that are so unparalleled. Yeah,

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a great point. You know, the physiology is completely different. Um,

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the anatomy is completely different. Um. But as I was

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 1>growing up, I would I would always cross train. I mean,

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, ski season would end in April May I

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>was playing football, and it would happen that like you know,

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like like clockwork. And it wasn't until the n C

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Double A took away my scholarship and kind of forced

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>me to focus only on skiing for for those two

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>years that I just didn't play football anymore, and I

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>just said, all right, I'm just gonna focus on on

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>skiing and you know, being the best year I can be,

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe I'll have an opportunity to to go

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>play football. And uh that you know, I paid the

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:54.399
<v Speaker 1>price for doing that, so you know I was able

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 1>to balance that, you know, most of my athletic career,

0:43:56.520 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>but but it had had a bit of a breaking point. Um.

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 1>You know in the NFL, what what do you learn

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 1>from pro skia and what do you learn from pro football?

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Football is obviously a team sport. You know, you win

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and die as a team. You can have your best

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>individual game ever and lose and you're you're gonna feel

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty crappy. Um. And skiings and individual sport, right,

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>so you're either best in the world or not that day,

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's your fault if you aren't. So Um, there's

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of this singular accountability nature to to skiing. Um. Look,

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that there's anything like the Olympics, you know,

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>walking and opening ceremonies and representing the country and being

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>around the world's best athletes and lots of different disciplines

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to you know, living in the Olympic village for for

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>three weeks to a month and meeting a lot of

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>other incredible athletes. You know, it was the honor of

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>my life to represent the country twice in the Olympics.

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 1>That being said, football in America it's the biggest sport

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.280
<v Speaker 1>in our country. I mean it's it's every week seventy

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>eight thousand people on on a national TV. And that

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>excitement that thrilled, that pressure, that magnifying glass. You know,

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to it's hard to duplicate that. You certainly

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>can't duplicate it in skiing because in skiing you have

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>one big, big event every four years. It's not not

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>every Saturday or every Sunday. How grateful are you to

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>have you have the ability to focus in on one

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>sport skiing and then how you know, and and basically

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>because you had the opportunity to do that, you exhaled

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 1>greatly in there. Well. You know, as I look back

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 1>at my athletic career and some people have asked, me, hey,

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, do you think you would have had more

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>success if you just focused on one Like if if

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't ski and you only played football and

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 1>dedicate a kind of football and you know, maybe you

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>could have won a Super Bowl, or maybe you could

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>have you know, been an All Pro or you know whatever.

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:00.839
<v Speaker 1>And as I think about that, I wouldn't trade that

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>for the experiences that I had across both sports. Um,

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I kind of look back at my athletic

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 1>career and and and just feel incredibly grateful, um and

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>humbled by whatever whatever I was able to accomplish, the

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>journeys that I was able to go on, and people

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that I was able to meet in both sports. So

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I really wouldn't trade those experiences for anything. You know,

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.240
<v Speaker 1>even if I was a fourth time Olympic gold medalist

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and skiing, if I would have never played football, or

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 1>if I would have been a multiple Super Super Bowl champ.

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I did something in athletics that no human being has

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>ever done, um, skin the Olympics and be drafted into

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.399
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. And I think that that's pretty cool because

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of human beings on the planet,

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of multi sport athletes, and um, you know,

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's accomplishment that I hold you me or

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.240
<v Speaker 1>in the ear of my heart. It was the benefit

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to versatility the common thread for me in life is

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 1>is I think I always think of things with the

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>end in mind, and thinking about life with the end

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>in mind, like we're not here for that long. But

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 1>like talk to anybody in their eight nineties are alder,

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>They'll tell you this thing goes really really fast, and

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe that, and so I think we have a

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 1>very fine night period of time in our lives to

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>go do the things we've always wanted to do and accomplish.

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>And so I've always thought of myself as you know,

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>more of a life experience guy, like I just want

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to experience as much as I possibly can on this

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>this you know, little amount of time that that I'm here.

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>And fortunately I've been able to have success in a

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of those areas, um and I've learned in all

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>of them. And I think the common thread for me

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>is is I get energy from other things, other challenges.

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 1>If I only focused on one thing every day, I

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>would probably get burned out and become disinterested. And so

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, especially for kids, playing multiple sports

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 1>is a great thing. I see kids parents saying, oh,

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you gotta specialize in one sport the age of eight, Like,

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding? Me at age of eight, like you

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>really want to pick the kids should be playing everything?

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Um so, I I think you know, diversity is really

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>helpful in our lives. Just talk about the the the

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 1>evolution of your business, but then also how sports has

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>helped you and how sports have hurt you in the business.

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 1>So so sports has really helped me in business, primarily

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>thinking about um having a deep conviction and belief that

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>very few things are impossible and anytime you're building a

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>new company, you're going to reach points in time. I

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>certainly did. We did. Or it just feels like failure

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>is inevitable, like the chap like the challenge is just

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>too insurmountical, it rains it pors. I mean like we've

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:48.800
<v Speaker 1>almost failed three or four times to integrate the company

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I started a decade ago. And it was during those

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.320
<v Speaker 1>times that I really drew back into my athletic experience.

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I no, I reject that, and I'm going to use

0:48:57.200 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>great tenacity. I'm gonna freaking figure it out. And we

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>were able to do that. So how how did your

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>employees and how did those people handle that grit and

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>tenacity because they weren't you know, you own, you aren't

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>on a gridiron. You're you aren't on the on the

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>ski lift, right, You're not on a mogul. You just

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you out there with a with a stapler and and

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and and some white out and APN and some sticky notes.

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been super lucky to work alongside people who I

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 1>would go into any rabbit hole with. And those people,

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, because business is the ultimate team sport. A

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>single individual who controlled the great, great business, you really

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>need functional leaders and every other business doing great things.

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And we had that. We had that to achieve. One

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 1>of the things that the biggest leadership lesson I had

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.720
<v Speaker 1>to learn in building a startup and growing a business

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 1>to the point where where we are now is you

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>can't talk to everybody the same. Like if you're in

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:07.400
<v Speaker 1>front of a football team. You know, there's a common

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>language to get people motivated. You know that people people

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 1>have been called every cursework you can imagine it. Well,

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 1>like there's just like you can't do that in this

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>is It's got a lot of people who have never

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>even been yelled at their whole life, you know. And

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and that engineers you think about so like in the

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>early days of Integrate, I'd come in like drawn my

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 1>experience from Mike Tomlin. You know what what what what

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>would you read? Do you know? Like? What was some

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 1>of my Olympics? And I got in trouble because you

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:43.320
<v Speaker 1>have the sales guys. Typically they're like, they think like athletes,

0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 1>so like you can treat them more like a football player,

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:47.719
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, they'll run through walls. But if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of engineers in the group and you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to inspire them like a football coach, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>turn white. And uh so you know I had to

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<v Speaker 1>I had to learn pretty quickly that I had to

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<v Speaker 1>change the way that I spoke to the whole group

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<v Speaker 1>and say different things different people and understand people like

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<v Speaker 1>to ingest information a different ways. Talked to us about

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<v Speaker 1>the forty hour rule. So this was my second Olympics

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<v Speaker 1>and I came into the Olympics as a number one

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<v Speaker 1>rank ski in the world, and um, I was skiing

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<v Speaker 1>great and had a great first run and made just

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<v Speaker 1>the tiniest mistake. Um you know, one inch split in

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<v Speaker 1>the legs in the final run. That's all it takes

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>in the square free sale skiing. And I didn't win

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<v Speaker 1>that Olympic gold medal that I wanted, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just devastated. And I was sitting there in Trino, Italy

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about how in the world am I going

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<v Speaker 1>to recover from this? And I came up with this

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<v Speaker 1>the forty hour rule, and I said, I'm gonna take

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours. I set my watch, I turned off

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<v Speaker 1>my phone. I didn't talk to a single person, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, I'm gonna do whatever I need to

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<v Speaker 1>do forty hours and feel bad for myself or learn,

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, dissect what happened and and and try to

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 1>come up with the common learnings. And after that fourty

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>hour window, I'm done feeling sorry for myself from moving

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 1>on a thousand miles an hour. And it was through

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>that kind of mental conditioning, and now I use it

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 1>in my life today. You know, you get bad news

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 1>from a customer, will cancel a contract, you gotta deal

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>with that, or he'll fight with the wife or you

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 1>know whatever, and I'll try to be disciplined. It's not

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>always forty hours. Sometimes it's longer, sometimes it's shorter. I

0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 1>think that helping the muscle, the brain muscle, to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to move on from things and not look back

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.959
<v Speaker 1>is is a healthy one. You had the opportunity last

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:29.399
<v Speaker 1>year too. You know, you're featured in HBO film called

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<v Speaker 1>The Weight of God. You know, take us through that

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 1>process of why you felt it was necessary for for

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you to take part uh in that in that documentary

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to HBO. Yeah, this was a huge passion project for me.

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I had personal connections to this story. So Jared's Peede

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Peterson was a skier I grew up skiing with. We

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 1>both went to the Olympics together. He's an Olympic silver

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.919
<v Speaker 1>medalist and he came to me at one World Cup

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:58.320
<v Speaker 1>just devastated, saying he fights demons. I had no idea

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:00.319
<v Speaker 1>what that meant at the age of twenty two or

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty three wherever I was. Ultimately, sadly, Jared took his life.

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 1>He committed suicide UM a couple of years ago, several

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:10.279
<v Speaker 1>years ago. And after he took his life, I said, gosh,

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I need to get smarter on this, this the topic

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:16.399
<v Speaker 1>of mental health. I felt ignorant. I felt somewhat responsible

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't there for him. I didn't know what

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the right things to say were UM and so so

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the m Brett Racken is the is the producer of

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 1>the film. He he was doing a story on a

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Bob's letter. Um uh, Stephen Holcomb who who took his

0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>life during during the interview. While he was still doing

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the story that the night before they were going to

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>meet together and he called me and he said, is

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 1>there a bigger story here? I said, yes, we have

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to make this film. I called ten of my Olympian friends.

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:48.080
<v Speaker 1>All of them said I'll I'll be interviewed. Um. I

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>raised a bunch of money for the film to get

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:51.799
<v Speaker 1>off the ground, and Brett and I we didn't know

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>it was going to be called Away to Gold. We

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know HBO was gonna, you know, pick it up.

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:56.840
<v Speaker 1>We didn't even know if Michael Phelps is going to

0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:58.879
<v Speaker 1>be involved at that point in time. We just knew

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 1>that there was a story year to be told. And

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the story was, you know, had the goal of showing

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:07.759
<v Speaker 1>folks that even the best Olympians of all time, I'm

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 1>talking Michael felt So, I'm talking Apollo on No and

0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>um you know, Lindsey Vaughan and and Bodhie Miller, Sashak

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and good analysts, everybody struggles to some extent. And we

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted to normalize the conversation about mental health, about you know,

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 1>struggling and show people that it's not just you know,

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:26.359
<v Speaker 1>because you don't have money or you don't have fame,

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't have success, that you're dealing with demons and

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>mental health issues. Mental health doesn't care how any trophies

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>during the trophy and it turned out to be, you know,

0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 1>incredible documentary. We were up for Documentary of the Year

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 1>in the Emmy's um changed a lot of lives. I

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 1>still get a ton of feedback from people. I'm very

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:45.760
<v Speaker 1>proud of the story that we told in the Courage

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of you know a lot of Olympians to tell their stories.

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even Sean White on the documentary said that

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 1>he's considered thought about taking his own life after I

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:55.879
<v Speaker 1>think his second or third third Olympics. So I think

0:54:55.880 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a powerful story. M man, everything you've

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>been through, everything you've experienced, looking back now today as

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>older Jeremy Bloom looking back at young Jeremy Bloom, what

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 1>would you tell him? He wouldn't believe what I would

0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:17.720
<v Speaker 1>tell him, you know, And I'm sure you think about

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>this too. I mean, you know, going back and having

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:22.839
<v Speaker 1>a conversation with our ten year old self, twelve year

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.839
<v Speaker 1>old self and just saying let me, let me walk

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you through what your life's gonna look like. UM. I

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:30.399
<v Speaker 1>try to remind myself that because I think I don't

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 1>know why this happens. But sometimes I think we get

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.919
<v Speaker 1>numb to to our blessings, to the things that we've

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 1>done in our lives. I'm not just talking in sports,

0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:42.239
<v Speaker 1>but you know how we've given back and the life

0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that we're living, and oftentimes we're our worst critic and

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.840
<v Speaker 1>we're hardest on ourselves, and we don't give ourselves credit

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 1>for the things that we do with things that we

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:52.839
<v Speaker 1>work on. And I, you know, sometimes think about going

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 1>back and sitting down with my ten year old and

0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:59.319
<v Speaker 1>twelve around self and walking him through his life, and

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I just I'd imagine what that ten year old or

0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 1>twelve year old would say, and I think suffice to say,

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he'd be pretty pumped on where we are, and he

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't believe you. He would he wouldn't think it wouldn't

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:16.919
<v Speaker 1>be believable. I think one of the things that why

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 1>we're wanted to a lot of athletes, no matter what

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you've played, how far you've played, I think they really

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:28.240
<v Speaker 1>we've been told to act like you've been there before,

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 1>be humble, and be this that. I think we have

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:44.360
<v Speaker 1>stopped ourselves from actually embracing the celebration of some success

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>because think about it, you have a forty eight our

0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 1>rule for when you fail, but you don't have a

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:58.560
<v Speaker 1>forty eight for ye Yeah, like you're freaking eleven time Olympian.

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I it's part the ground culture too, Like we don't

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 1>we we we we we minimize success. We and we

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and we maximize you know what we do wrong? Yeah,

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's and that and that spans across I know,

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.720
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just I really like I'm sitting here thinking

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:15.840
<v Speaker 1>about it, like we don't. We've been told so many

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 1>times to act like you've been there before. I'm forty

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>three years old now, I don't know what it's like

0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to score touchdown anymore. Right, I'm not saying that I

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:29.080
<v Speaker 1>want to go backwards and see how it feels. Like

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I asked myself, what if I really just through a

0:57:32.720 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>forty eight hour party in my head, that possibly can

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:43.240
<v Speaker 1>change the dichotomy of the lands I see things of

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>success versus all Right, I've done it, move on to

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the next thing instead, Right, and I'm not talking about like,

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about like a party, but I just

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>mean a psychological it's taking time to celebrate what you've accomplished,

0:57:59.920 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 1>with what you've done, or the or the or the

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:03.919
<v Speaker 1>positive things, because that's right I mean, And like I said,

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's really just part of overall I don't even

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.400
<v Speaker 1>want to call the microwave generation, but just just culture

0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in general that we just tend to minimize. We just

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 1>tend to minimize the good things and we maximized, like

0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I did this. Oh, I can't believe

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I made that bad decision. Oh what? Oh? Woe is me?

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 1>And we just don't take the time to look at

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the positive. I think that's really interesting. And you're right,

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 1>we do fixate it on the things that aren't working

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 1>on our in our lives or the things that we

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 1>messed up on, and we don't give ourselves enough credit

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>for the things that are going well in our lives

0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 1>and the relationships that we have and the support structures

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that we have, the friends that we have, the little

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 1>winds in life. I completely agree with that. Man, look

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:49.160
<v Speaker 1>up imprint. Look up the definition of imprint. That's you

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>You're leaving an imprint and that's really cool on the slopes. Absolutely,

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you are a unique person, you are well worth it,

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:07.680
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