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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor show. Ron is well up

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Speaker 1: Ron Ananian front the Car Doctor. It's five year mission

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Speaker 1: Ronan thinking out loud, what is the value of all

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Speaker 1: impossible the car Doctor, how do I trust the three

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Speaker 1: plugs that are in the back, I've got to take

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Speaker 1: ended up being? This? What he says is logical and

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Speaker 1: I do, in fact agree with it. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: who was among the absent today, I've noticed, Um, but

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Speaker 1: I think Maddy had some family emergency or something come up.

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Speaker 1: every one of you. You know, that's what it's about here,

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Speaker 1: making it easy. We we try to make it easy.

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Speaker 1: We try to make it logical. We try to make

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Speaker 1: it so that you understand what's going on about your car.

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Speaker 1: I've always talked to you as we've sat down these

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Speaker 1: many years and many hours about how important it is

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Speaker 1: for mechanics to be good. You know, good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. There's a lot there. There's a lot that

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Speaker 1: I get it. I got paid to fix it, But

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Speaker 1: that's abuse. Moaning and groaning is abusive. It's a pain

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Speaker 1: in the neck. It's down, it's downheartening. You know what,

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to work a job that it's it's nice

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Speaker 1: when you get respected, give that respect back to your mechanic.

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Speaker 1: when somebody starts complaining about price after they've agreed to it.

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Speaker 1: Move on. Part of the reason, and here's why I

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean she was just bedazzled, alright, bedazzling, bedazzled.

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Speaker 1: Whatever she was, you she wanted attention. And at the

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Speaker 1: not only is she all dolled up, but she's talking

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Speaker 1: Well it's more than just part of the problem, but

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Speaker 1: how people react. That's human nature. Now you're one on

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Speaker 1: it'll be if I'm not mistaken, there's actually two fusible links.

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Speaker 1: I would take a look at both of them because

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Speaker 1: fusible links have been known to fail or corrode internally,

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Speaker 1: especially on an older vehicle, and it wouldn't hurt while

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Speaker 1: the vehicles running. To go over and start, maybe gently

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Speaker 1: and put a load on the vehicle again, headlights on high,

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Speaker 1: beam the froster. Let's let's get some heat flowing. Let's

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Speaker 1: get some current flowing, and maybe gently, you know, give

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a twist to the wiring harness,

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Speaker 1: especially around the fusible links. Can they take the abuse?

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Speaker 1: Can they take the heat? Can they take the twisted

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Speaker 1: and turning? And see how does the vehicle react? Does

436
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Speaker 1: it react normally? Now you're gonna have to get under

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Speaker 1: the dashboard and find the junction box where it feeds

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Speaker 1: into the ignition switch and put a voltmeter on it

439
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Speaker 1: or a bulb vaultmeter would be nicer at least give

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Speaker 1: you a spec bulb be okay too, because you know

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Speaker 1: it will be an applied load. And here's a case where,

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Speaker 1: even though it may not necessarily be applied load, but

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Speaker 1: the best of both worlds, I would use my side

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Speaker 1: marker bulb trick. And you know, as a matter of fact,

445
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Speaker 1: years ago this was the classic example of the case

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Speaker 1: where I learned to use a one and I put

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Speaker 1: a clear bulb on the input side of the ignition

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Speaker 1: switch and an orange side marker bulb on the output

449
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Speaker 1: and the car had the same problem. It was a

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Speaker 1: Chevy I'm gonna say it was a Chevy venture a

451
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Speaker 1: million years ago, all right. And when the car die,

452
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Speaker 1: as the customer when it wouldn't start, which bulb was lit?

453
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Speaker 1: And he said the white one, I said, okay, so

454
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Speaker 1: then I know I've got power into the ignition switch.

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Speaker 1: The orange bulb didn't light. I know I've got a

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Speaker 1: bad ignition switch. It didn't make the contact jump across.

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Speaker 1: So you've basically got to do the same thing here.

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Speaker 1: You've got to see a bulblit on both sides of

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Speaker 1: the switch, and that's a great way to test it.

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Speaker 1: Last all we've done is talk about hot right, We've

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Speaker 1: talked about power, do you have voltage? We haven't really

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Speaker 1: talked about ground. And a lot of times ground can

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Speaker 1: cause just the problem you're discussing. Listen, the highest the

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Speaker 1: highest point of resistance in the circuit is what it's

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Speaker 1: gonna cause that electrical or electric electronic component to fail

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Speaker 1: and not operate properly. Clean all the chassis grounds or

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Speaker 1: at the best load the grounds. It wouldn't be the

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Speaker 1: worst idea to take something like a headlight bulb. A

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Speaker 1: headlight bulb is great depending upon the Armake model card

470
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Speaker 1: came from the bulb itself, the complete housing anywhere from

471
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Speaker 1: seven to ten ams. You know, if it's a high

472
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Speaker 1: beam and so on, and when one leg weren't right

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Speaker 1: to a hot take the other leg, run it to

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Speaker 1: the grounds. Can you apply it to the ground, does

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Speaker 1: the light light up? Does it have good current flow?

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Speaker 1: And start load testing the grounds that way, And that's

477
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Speaker 1: a cheap, inexpensive tool you can make yourself. Get down

478
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Speaker 1: to your local o'reillyota Parts telling you on an old

479
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Speaker 1: school six headlight bulb. They'll have the socket, they'll have

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Speaker 1: the connector. All right, o'reillyota Parts has all that stuff,

481
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Speaker 1: and you can then go ahead and start to load

482
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Speaker 1: test the circuit and verify how good or bad are

483
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Speaker 1: the grounds On something of this age, you're probably gonna

484
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Speaker 1: want And I know you're at the point where you've

485
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Speaker 1: rebuilt the entire air conditioning system. Um not necessarily on

486
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Speaker 1: a whim, but you did. You're going to want to

487
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Speaker 1: go through take a part all the grounds, clean them

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Speaker 1: and put them back together. This is a step by

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Speaker 1: step process. This is not something easy to fix a,

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Speaker 1: especially if it's intermittent. You're right in thinking new means

491
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Speaker 1: never ever worked, and new means you've got to take

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Speaker 1: a real hard, careful look at it. But by the

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Speaker 1: same token, you've also got to think beyond that. Once

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Speaker 1: you test all these things properly as best you can,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to think outside the box and say, hey,

496
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Speaker 1: how do I how do I test it, or how

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Speaker 1: do I set myself up to test it for when

498
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Speaker 1: I'm ten miles from the house or that my garage

499
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Speaker 1: and I can't you know, that's where the side marker

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Speaker 1: bulbs come in. That's the purpose of that. And then

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Speaker 1: at that point it comes down to is it wiring harness?

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Speaker 1: Last thought. More than a few times I've had cases

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Speaker 1: where fuse boxes cause these type of particular problems and

504
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Speaker 1: what you'll need to do, and this is a gutsy move,

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Speaker 1: but you know, when you get down to it, one

506
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Speaker 1: by one, you can go through a wiring diagram and

507
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Speaker 1: look as it fused two, fuse three, six eleven, look

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Speaker 1: at the power distribution fuses that are involved. Need to

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Speaker 1: look at a power distribution wiring harness and pull those

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Speaker 1: fuses out and look at them you know, fuses do

511
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: funny things on older vehicles. I fixed more than a

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Speaker 1: few cars in my career. Where'll where you'll find a

513
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Speaker 1: black burnt spot on the fuse? The current flow has

514
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Speaker 1: been going on for a long time. Here's a twenty

515
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Speaker 1: year old vehicle. Is the is or are the fuses

516
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Speaker 1: burnt on the contact point? And obviously take them out

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Speaker 1: one of the time, look at them, put it back in.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget the one time here on radio and

519
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Speaker 1: as many many years ago, I made the fatal er

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Speaker 1: of telling somebody we're checking for a draw and they

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Speaker 1: pulled every fuse out of the car. And then they

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Speaker 1: called me up the next week and said, now what

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Speaker 1: do I do? How do I know where they go? No, no,

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Speaker 1: one at a time. I still think about that. I

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00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: still think about that poor person sitting there with a

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Speaker 1: pile of fuses on the front seat of the car,

527
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Speaker 1: and my conversation. That's where I learned the phrase put

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Speaker 1: down the pliers and step away from the vehicle because

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Speaker 1: it's it's time to get it into a mechanic. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll never forget that, Michael. That should be

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Speaker 1: more than enough for you to go on. UM I

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Speaker 1: realized it's hard for you to get to the phone

533
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Speaker 1: right now down there Houston Way. We hope you guys

534
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Speaker 1: are all drawing. Okay, God bless and you guys take

535
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Speaker 1: good care and we wish Texas the best. I'm running

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Speaker 1: ending in the Car Doctor zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Hey, welcome back, ran

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Rolling along here at eight by five

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Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Podcasting and more information at

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor show dot com. Let's do an email from

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Speaker 1: Thomas Ron. I've been a regular listener of your show forever.

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Speaker 1: Let me first state that the in the late seventies,

543
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: I had been a fan, or since the first First

544
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: let me state that the it doesn't make sense. Let

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Speaker 1: me first date that the late seventies. I think he's

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Speaker 1: trying to say since the late seventies. Okay, Thomas, I

547
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Speaker 1: think you're excited and nervous right in this email. I've

548
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Speaker 1: been a fan of buying extended warranties, whether I buy

549
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Speaker 1: a used car or a new car. The Rea and

550
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I do that is, if you can get the price

551
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: of the car down fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars,

552
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: then there is no better investment in the car itself. Well,

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00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: that's absolutely right, and you know, to a degree, maybe

554
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done it in the seventies as much.

555
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: I think the case is different now because of the

556
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Speaker 1: electronics in the car. And while the extended warranties are

557
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: still fifteen hundred dollars that they were so many years ago,

558
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: you can spend fifteen hundred dollars on half a component now.

559
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: It's just amazing how fast dollars add up on electric automobiles.

560
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: On cars that I bought this way, five of seven

561
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: needed repairs, there were as much as or more than

562
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Speaker 1: the cost of the warranty. And second, as an accountant,

563
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of making double monthly payments

564
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: a four hundred dollar car payment and a five repair

565
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: for an A C unit. Also, I feel that leasing

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00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: a vehicle is only a good idea if you can

567
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: write a major part of the monthly lease payments, Like

568
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Speaker 1: if you're a salesman, in more than sevent you're driving

569
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: is in business. Off one exception, at least a new settern.

570
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Just to see if I liked it, I did so.

571
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: I negotiated a great buyout with the warranty. Of of course,

572
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Speaker 1: you are what you say priceless, tom Your thoughts are appreciated. Tommy.

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Speaker 1: You make all valid points, and I think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to a degree, automobiles are about the numbers. It's it's

575
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: they've got to be. It's a numbers decision. It can't

576
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: be emotional or it should be emotional. Unfortunately, you know,

577
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: that shiny red car gets our attention and it gets

578
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: us all wound up and gee whiz, what's wrong with baby?

579
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Speaker 1: And you know, but those days are it's it's hard

580
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Speaker 1: for those days to exist. Now. Um, it's costly for

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Speaker 1: those days to exist. And I think people like in general,

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Speaker 1: people in general like to live a little bit beyond

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Speaker 1: their means, probably quite a bit beyond their means. You know.

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Speaker 1: I keep thinking about that woman I saw in the

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Speaker 1: review mirror driving the OUTI this morning, all dressed up

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning, getting ready to go out, and she's out

587
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Speaker 1: and she's on the cell phone and she's got more

588
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: jeweler reasons Jon. Her sunglasses were hundred hundred and fifty dollars.

589
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: And you know, are we living beyond our means? I

590
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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I mean, what do we need all

591
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: that for? You know, at the end of the day.

592
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: You need a pair of pants, a shirt, and uh,

593
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: you need to have a little fun during the course

594
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: of the day, a good meal, and go to bed

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Speaker 1: up the next day start all over again. It's you know,

596
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we gotta go and have our fun,

597
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: but we don't need to go crazy. And too many

598
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: people do that, and I think automobiles become a part

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Speaker 1: of that. I still agree, and I agree with you, Tom,

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Speaker 1: I think extended warranties are critical towards certain situations, and

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Speaker 1: automobiles um at the very least. And this is something

602
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: I've never really touched on. It only occurred to me recently.

603
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: If you do get an extended warranty on a vehicle

604
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: and the car breaks and you have to take it

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Speaker 1: into a repair shop, wait for it. You're ready. This

606
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: is my stellar idea or thought for the day. You

607
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: actually get to try out of repair shop on somebody

608
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: else's time, you're not paying for it, and you get

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Speaker 1: to see how well do they handle above and beyond.

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Speaker 1: Because I've got to tell you, extended warranties or a

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Speaker 1: pain in the butt as a shop owner to deal with.

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Speaker 1: It'll it'll take us anywhere from an hour to an

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Speaker 1: hour and fifteen minutes to process paperwork on an extended warranty.

614
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: You have to call up, you have to get authorization,

615
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: You have to list out all the part numbers. You

616
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: have to list out exactly what the complaint was. You

617
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: have to list out exactly what you have to basically

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Speaker 1: recite everything you recited to the customer, but to the

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Speaker 1: warranty company in far greater detail, and it becomes a

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Speaker 1: giant waste of time to a degree or a big

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Speaker 1: chunk of the day. So Um, a shop that can

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Speaker 1: handle an extended warranty and repair the car properly. You

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Speaker 1: know what you're finding out on somebody else's nickel, just

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Speaker 1: how good or bad that repair shop is. Appreciate the thoughts,

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Speaker 1: Tom and Um. You know I I love getting letters

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Speaker 1: like this. Send me one of yours. Send me an

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Speaker 1: email Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com, and I'll

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Speaker 1: be sure to read it up here on there if

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Speaker 1: I think it's timely and interesting for everyone else's concerned.

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Speaker 1: A zero the car Doctors coming back, don't go away,

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Speaker 1: welcome back right on any of the cart ockerate zero.

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Speaker 1: We're now at that portion in the program, folks, where

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Speaker 1: well it's that time again. Um, you know, this is

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the NFL season, and we know tomorrow

635
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Speaker 1: the Giants play. The Jets are gonna show up, but

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Speaker 1: the Giants are definitely gonna play. And I just want

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Speaker 1: to take the two most faithful Giants fans in the

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Speaker 1: universe and explain to them what's gonna happen tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys ready, Yes, we know it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a win, but knowing you you're gonna go against the

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Speaker 1: Green and said, we're gonna lose exactly because you know

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Speaker 1: we always went against Dallas. It's it's gonna be a win.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you what the what the the

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Speaker 1: Great Oz has seen in his meditations of the Upper

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Speaker 1: Stratosphere is the Giants will lose twenty four to three.

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Speaker 1: That's the prediction one point. It's gonna be a heartbreaker.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be that close. So that's I'm just letting

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Speaker 1: you guys know. So next week you don't come in

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Speaker 1: here dragging your tails and all upset. And you know

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Speaker 1: I'm a New York fan, but I just want to

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Speaker 1: let you know that I've already seen the fix. I've

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Speaker 1: I've used my car doctor powers and resourcefulness for the

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Speaker 1: other side, and I'm able to see that. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be that type of a game down to one point.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a late game to yes Sunday night game.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, yes, and it

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Speaker 1: should be good and we will be celebrating the Monday morning. Um,

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Speaker 1: why are you guys are gonna switch over to Dallas?

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Speaker 1: You're an idiot? Well I could be, uh'll be nice.

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Speaker 1: I'm just let you know what could happen. Um, we

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Speaker 1: do this every year for those you that are new listeners,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I've got to tell you. By going

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Speaker 1: against the giants, they usually do win. So that's the

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Speaker 1: that's the deal. As we as we try to help

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Speaker 1: the dust true and we threatened Ron every time he

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Speaker 1: says Jet, You're gonna win tomorrow because we know what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen, right exactly. It's it's there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: things I can do when it comes to fixing cars,

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Speaker 1: sports and not so much so a man has to

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Speaker 1: know as limitations. As I like to say, It's like

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Speaker 1: people say to me, why don't you mow the lawn

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Speaker 1: because I'd probably fall off the tractor and hurt myself. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know it's frankly aren't at the time. But that's

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Speaker 1: the horse of another color. That's a different story altogether.

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Speaker 1: So well, a great hour. Always good to sit here

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Speaker 1: and talk automobiles and expunge to you what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I appreciated the emails. If you've got an email question,

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Speaker 1: you want to get it right up here on air,

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Speaker 1: Ron at Car Doctor show dot com. Until the next time,

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Speaker 1: I'm Ron Adian, the car Doc. You're reminding you the

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Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. To see you