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You can get him on ax at 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: Albert Brier was really about to be a hater abe, 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: Good morning. I was really about to hate on you. 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: You guys got me fired up like a little poison 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: to get you going up there. 36 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah, let's go, Albert. How you feeling, man, 37 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: How you doing? How's everything going? I'm good, I'm good. 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 5: I'm good. 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: How you guys doing? 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Not too bad? 41 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 6: You know, I'm trying to figure out what's gonna have 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 6: with the giants? 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 5: Man? 44 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 6: Was that unexpected for you? Did you get the sense 45 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 6: that that may happen in seasoning and it's just gonna 46 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 6: be dable? I think most people's question is why not 47 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 6: Joe Shane as well. 48 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, let's start with like why now I think 49 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 5: it is, like, you know. 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: You'd be right to think this is out of character 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: for the Giants. This isn't generally the way they operate. 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: But you know, I think it was just kind of 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: like the repeat of a. 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: Lot of different things. 55 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 5: And so, you know, you start with the fact that. 56 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: They're two and eight for the third straight year, which 57 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: when somebody there told me that, I was a little 58 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: taken aback, like, wow, I didn't realize. 59 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 5: That was the case. 60 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: They haven't won consecutive games in almost two years. 61 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 5: And then you look at kind. 62 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: Of a couple of things that happened this year. They 63 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 4: have a big win on the Chargers. The next week, 64 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: they they lose to the Saints. 65 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 5: In New Orleans. 66 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: They have a big win over the Eagles, and then 67 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: they then come to the blown lead in Denver, and 68 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: then that bloone lead in Denver is followed by another 69 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: big blown lead in Chicago this weekend, and so you know, 70 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: I think it's just like a pattern of things over 71 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: and over and over again, and it's this just isn't 72 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: getting better. So you know, this gives them an opportunity to, 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: you know, really do their research out in the open 74 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: and start their search. Now they're gonna look at Mike 75 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: Kaska as as as a potential head coaching candidate. You know, 76 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: Casca is somebody who's got who played in the league, 77 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 4: who's got you know, the Andy Reids stamp of approval, and. 78 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 5: You know, and and and and it's. 79 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: Really well respected. I had, you know, did well in 80 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: interviews when he's had the chance to interview for ed 81 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: coaching jobs too. 82 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 5: And then as far as keeping Joe Shane, I mean, 83 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: I I don't know that. 84 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: Anything's set in stone yet. I think that the big 85 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: thing for them now is he's done a lot to 86 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: modernize their operation. 87 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 5: They were really old school, and he's done a lot 88 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: to sort of. 89 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: Change where they're at and you know, bring everybody together. 90 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: They're under one system over the last four years. So 91 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: I don't think they just wanted to throw all of 92 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: the progress they're out right away and didn't see the 93 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: need to do that right now. 94 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: So Hilly the head coaching search and we'll see which 95 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: way that goes. 96 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 4: You know, we've seen cases in the past where the 97 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: general manager made it through an initial firing and didn't 98 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: make it through the end so I'm not saying anything's impossible, 99 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 4: but for now, Jolie, the effort to go find the 100 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 4: next head coach. 101 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Now, one are the chances that somebody who currently is 102 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: the head coach in Chapel Hill would potentially be on 103 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: the list of candidates, Like I think. 104 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: Bill would walk on hot coals to get that job. 105 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: I just I don't know that the Giants will do it. 106 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: I mean, if this had been ten years ago, yeah, 107 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: I could see that. 108 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 5: He's seventy three years old and. 109 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 4: Like things haven't gone good of late. You know, I 110 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 4: think one of the biggest problems he's had over the 111 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: last five years has been his ability to fill out 112 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: of staff. That was one thing he was incredible at, 113 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: like when they were really. 114 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: Rolling in New England. 115 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: His ability to develop people, players, coaches, you know, front 116 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: office people that like machine kept churning and chearning and 117 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: churning over his twenty years and. 118 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 5: Over his first twenty years New England. 119 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: And really slowed down at the end. And so you know, 120 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: I I'm rooting for it. You know, Jonas, that would 121 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: be great, That'd be an awesome story. You know, like 122 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 4: let's get Bill Belichick or Lane Kiff into New York Like, 123 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 4: that would be fun to see. 124 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 5: There those guys there. 125 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: I just don't know that it's the fit for what 126 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 4: the Giants need right now. 127 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin would be a vibe in New York. 128 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: Uh, that would be fun. That's not really like and 129 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 4: you got the connection. 130 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 5: To Jackson Dart. 131 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: But I I just I that generally hasn't been the 132 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: sort of way the Giants go. But I mean I 133 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 4: think that it's on them now, and to their credit, 134 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: they are going to go into this with a really 135 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: open mind. That is on them now to rethink a 136 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 4: bunch of things because you look at the track record now. 137 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 4: The last time they successfully hired a head coach had 138 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: a successful head coaching higher with two thousand and four 139 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 4: with Tom Coughlin. So it's been almost it's been over 140 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: twenty years since they've got one of these. 141 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: Right, Abe. 142 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you about Ben Johnson. I mean, 143 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 7: you guys wrote about it the three Stages of Winning 144 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 7: and just how he has has really kind of worked 145 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 7: with or I guess team building more so than I 146 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 7: guess winning. But it just seems as though at six 147 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 7: and three, his impact on this Beers team has been outstanding. 148 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 7: What's the you know, what's the ceiling for them this season? 149 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 7: And from your estimation, I mean. 150 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: Maybe you get in the playoffs seeing and scratch out 151 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: a win. Like I don't know, I don't know that 152 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: there's much beyond that, but I think you've certainly created 153 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: a foundation for the future now. And Gale is playing better. 154 00:06:59,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: Too, you know. 155 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: That's the other thing is like I think what's impressive 156 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 4: about it is like they really got to the early 157 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: parts of the season with Caleb being pretty inconsistent and 158 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: like going through it, and like now it's starting to 159 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: feel like they're coming out the other side from a 160 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: quarterback development standpoint. 161 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 5: Not that like he's a superstar, but. 162 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, you know. 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 5: We're good. 164 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: Good West lost it all right, So I just walked 165 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: outside for a second. 166 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 5: But I wanted to get some fresh air. I appreciate that. 167 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, but Kayala has made some 168 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: huge plays the last couple of weeks, the Throat of 169 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 4: Love one to to beat the to beat the Bengals 170 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: in Cincinnati, and then you know, two big runs to 171 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: beat the Giants last week. So you know, I think 172 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: that piece of it, like that you're seeing Caleb like 173 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: come along as their winning is a great time for 174 00:07:59,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: where they're going. 175 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 5: And you know, certainly I think. 176 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: Like their ability to build along the line, to scrimmage 177 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: over the last couple of off seasons, paying. 178 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: Off to. 179 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 6: Hey, Albert, why are you getting shippy with some guy 180 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 6: on X last night? 181 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: Over at Action in the Northern Illinois game? 182 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was fun? Yeah? 183 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I I I live in Massachusetts or 184 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: state University is the University of Massachusetts, and so like 185 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: I don't know, every so often I'll turn on some 186 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: Action and I honestly did not even know until last 187 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: night that Hugh mass is now a full member of 188 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: the of the MAC, which I guess like the regional 189 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: thing with conferences. 190 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: Has been out the window. 191 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: I don't think. 192 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: I don't think I live in Mid America, but the 193 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 4: State University here's in the Mid America Conference. So uh yeah, 194 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: that was that was really ugly. They're really really bad, 195 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: I mean, and I turned on the game thinking, like, 196 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: you know, because I've have friends that went to you Mats, 197 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 4: So like I started turning. 198 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 5: On the game like all right, like I'm going to 199 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: come out of this. 200 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: As some material to just shove in their face, you 201 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: know what I mean? And you know, but I thought, 202 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: like going in, I'm like, in order to Illinois is 203 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: generally like really really like I mean historically it's been 204 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: like a really good NAC team, right like over the 205 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: last twenty twenty five years. 206 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty good, all right, Like so they're getting 207 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: you know. 208 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: They're getting the crap beating out of them by a 209 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: good MAC team. Then I look down on the score 210 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: bug and look at look at the record, and this 211 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 4: is a pretty down year. 212 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 5: For North Arolina. 213 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, all the way around. I mean, I 214 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: I thought there was like some unintentional comedy in the game. 215 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: It was that was something else. But yeah, I didn't expect. 216 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: I didn't expect to get like, you know, shots. 217 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 5: Fire back on the on the maction. 218 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: But but but there, right there, I was in the 219 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: ring on a Monday night. 220 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: Not much on the home field advantage front either. 221 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: Right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. Yeah, so again, 222 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 4: like I didn't expect to be fighting one of those 223 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: battles on a Wednesday night, But there I was. 224 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: Alber Breer with us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior 225 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. 226 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: How's this whole thing with aj. 227 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: Brown going to play out because it just feels like, look, 228 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: if you look at the offense, and we were talking 229 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: about it earlier, Saquon Barkley is having a way down year. 230 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: Everybody's having a down year, yet he's the only one 231 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: that's complaining again like he was last year. 232 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is sort of like what you 233 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 4: get at that position sometimes is And look, I do 234 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: have some sympathy for it because it's like he is 235 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: a hyper competitive guy and like and I think you 236 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: even see this with quarterbacks and times too, Like Brady 237 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: was this way at the end of New England. You 238 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: can't expect a guy to be like. 239 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 5: Uber competitive when it comes. 240 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 4: To team accomplishment and then not be as competitive about 241 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: his own personal performance. 242 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 5: Right, So, but the. 243 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 4: Fact that the guy, the fact that the guy is 244 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: like upset that he's not you know, he's not able 245 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: to put up the same sort of numbers that he's 246 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: used to, or the offense isn't performing at the level 247 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: he's become accustomed to, Like I do, I don't think 248 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: that's the worst thing. 249 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 5: In the world. 250 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: I think the problem is that like it keeps happening 251 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: when they're winning, and it was happening even last year 252 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: when they were pursuing and winning a Super Bowl, you know, And. 253 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 5: So it's just one of the things. 254 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: You have to consider, where's where's your breaking point and 255 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: when does it become When does it get to the 256 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 4: point where the where the problems that way the talent 257 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 4: And I'm not sure that we're there yet. And they 258 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 4: didn't ever consider trading him in season because the spot 259 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: they're in to go and pursue a championship now, another 260 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: championship now. But I certainly think it becomes a discussion 261 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: point in the off season. And the interesting thing about 262 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 4: these sorts of things is obviously all the other teams, 263 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: the thirty one other teams see this, Well, there's another 264 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: team that wants him, like the Eagles don't need to 265 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: shop them like that. That team's going to make that 266 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 4: phone call, you know, when you get to when you. 267 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 5: Get to February and March. So I certainly think that, 268 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 5: you know, if they. 269 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 4: Don't win another championship, this is something we'll be revisiting 270 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 4: in the off season and we'll see what happens. 271 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 7: Albert Ken are the Colts for real? I know that 272 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 7: that's probably cliche at this point or redundant, whatever it 273 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 7: may be. 274 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: But they have the Chiefs coming up. 275 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 7: I know you've written about or someone wrote about the 276 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 7: Chiefs still being the best team in the AFC, the 277 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 7: Colts get an opportunity to lockhorns with them. How much 278 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 7: does this provide to the conversation of this is this 279 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 7: for real what we're seeing in Indy? 280 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 281 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: I think, you know, I like, like I do think 282 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: like Indianapolis has got a pretty complete roster. Is like 283 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: you don't look at anything as like, yeah, like that's 284 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: that's something that's going to sink them when he gets 285 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: to January, like in any in any one area. 286 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,239 Speaker 5: The one thing where I think they've shown. 287 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: Some cracks the last couple of weeks against Pittsburgh and 288 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: then against Atlanta is like when. 289 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 5: The game isn't played on their terms. 290 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 4: They can struggle a little bit. 291 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: And to their credit, like I think against. 292 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 4: Atlanta they were able to reel it back in and 293 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: really kind of load back up behind Jonathan Taylor. 294 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 5: But I think what you see is, you. 295 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: Know, when they're not controlling the pace of the game 296 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: or when they have to play from behind, the offensive 297 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 4: line just doesn't look the same. And that's I mean 298 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 4: it was. It's been a little shocking to see it 299 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, the way that the way 300 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: that that that Jones has been hit, the way he's 301 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: been sacked by both Pittsburgh. 302 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 5: And Atlanta, and then it just wasn't happening. 303 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: That way earlier in the year, and. 304 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 5: That offensive line was such a strength, you know. I 305 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 5: think it's sort of indicative too of. 306 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 4: Like what happens again when you're when you're able to 307 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: control the game with Jonathan Taylor and you're never in 308 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 4: second and fifteen and you're never in you know, third 309 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: and nine. It's a completely different thing, you know, than 310 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 4: than when all of a sudden you are in those 311 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: situations with your offensive line. 312 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 5: So that would be the. 313 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: One area I would look at as like, okay, like 314 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 4: is there an offensive line issue? And I certainly want 315 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: it comes think when it comes time to play the Chiefs, 316 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: like the Chiefs are going to be able to challenge 317 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: them in that area because of what they bring to 318 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: the table with Chris Jones and George Carlofts and all 319 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: the schematic stuff that THEI segno is able to do. 320 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 6: Albert, I want to talk to you about just the 321 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 6: Bill's offense. 322 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: I've struggled. 323 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 6: We saw an article or earlier this week where someone throughout 324 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 6: the idea or I guess the question is Sean McDermott 325 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 6: about Brian Dable after getting fired immediately joined the Bill staff, 326 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: which seems a little bit ridiculous. 327 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's ever happened quite like that before. 328 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 6: I just take us through kind of I don't know, 329 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 6: maybe the pressure on Joe Brady and then is that 330 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 6: Has that ever happened before as a head coach? Ever 331 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 6: gotten fired and immediately joined another team? 332 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it happened last year. 333 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: Robert Sala went to lafloor staff. 334 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: And immediately after one. 335 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 5: It was very soon. Yeah, I don't know if it 336 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: was immediate, but it was. 337 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 4: I don't think it was immediate. I think it was 338 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: a few weeks. But like that wasn't like. 339 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 5: I mean, that could be awkward, you know what I mean. 340 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: Like in last year the Packers had a first year 341 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator. So what Lafleur did with Sala was he 342 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: took him and he put him on the offensive staff 343 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: and he said, okay, like here is a guy who 344 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: can see things, you know, through a defensive lens. 345 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 5: That can help you guys, just you know, as. 346 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 4: Far as like trouble shooting, different things and all of that, 347 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: which I you're seeing more and more of that now 348 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: across the NFL, where more guys are in those sorts 349 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: of roles. 350 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: It would be I think a. 351 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: Little unusual when you've gotten offensive coordinator who now has 352 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: his experience as Joe Brady is if like, oh yeah, 353 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: like we're going to come in and bring in this 354 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: guy to to give you a hand, you know what 355 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: I mean, Like I I'm not sure how that would 356 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: work exactly, but. 357 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 5: You know, I think the interesting thing. 358 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: About it is, you know, to me, Brady, is how 359 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: week tweak these things become too. You know, like where 360 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: the Bills had really built some momentum, like they came 361 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: out of their by they absolutely annihilated the Panthers, and 362 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: then they come back and they beat the Chiefs right 363 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: in week nine, and now all of a sudden, the ship's. 364 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 5: Righted and then they just have like this weird. 365 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: Like almost like puke all over your shoes game against 366 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: the Dolphins. And we're talking big picture problems again. So 367 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: I you know, I don't know, I'd like to see 368 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: like like like another week at least of them looking 369 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: that way before I start like sounding the alarm. You know, 370 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: I think you're entitled to a bad week that happens 371 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 4: in the NFL, and I wasn't expecting it to have 372 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 4: it in that fashion. But you know, like I think, 373 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: you know Josh Allen and that offense had looked pretty 374 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: good the two weeks prior to what happened in Miami. 375 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: Is there any long term concern about the Packers and 376 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: sort of how they've looked so, I know, it's just 377 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: been a couple of years since, but it feels like 378 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: maybe people are starting to question Matt Lafleur a little 379 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: bit more publicly, like what do you make of all that? 380 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 5: Well? 381 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 4: I think I think there are a couple of reasons 382 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: why that's happened. Number one, they didn't extend him, you know, 383 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 4: in the off season. I think he has two years 384 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: left on his deal. And there was a transition of 385 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: power in Green Bay. And for those who don't know, 386 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 4: the team president in Green Bay is is he's not 387 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: the owner, but he almost has the power of being 388 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 4: the owner. 389 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 5: Right So, Mark Murphy had been. 390 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: There forever he had hired the floor at policy became 391 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: the president there at the end of and I think 392 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: anytime there's that sort of transition of power, you know 393 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: there're gonna be some questions, okay, like does a new 394 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: boss want to bring in his own guys, So that's 395 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 4: a natural question. Then they don't extend him, and you know, 396 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 4: then they go all in on this current group. Now 397 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: they've already paid Jordan Love, of course, but then they 398 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: they make the move for Michael Parsons, which really is 399 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 4: implicitly saying like we believe like we're in a championship 400 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: window right now, and. 401 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 5: You know, so that puts pressure on everybody. 402 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: And when you have a night like they had the 403 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: other night where the defense looks just. 404 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 5: Fine, like the investment in Parsons look. 405 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: Face working out, and. 406 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 5: You know the offense can't get out of its own. 407 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: Way with your fifty five million dollar quarterback, then you 408 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 4: know the questions are going to be answered on the 409 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 4: coaching staff, especially when the head coaches on the offensive 410 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: side of the ball. Now, I still think they're behind 411 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: Matt and I think. 412 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 5: They'll be they'll be okay, but they have been very. 413 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: Scattershot on the on offense over the course of this year, 414 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: and they've struggled to find consistency. I think one thing 415 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 4: that hurt them the other night Tucker Craft had kind 416 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: of grown into becoming a focal point for them offensively. 417 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: He's obviously down for the year now, and the offensive line, 418 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: you know, has I think had some real issues dealing 419 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 4: with the Eagles front. Which you know, if you have 420 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 4: that sort of issue with that sort of front, you're 421 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 4: going to see more of those in the playoffs. And 422 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 4: so could that be a long term concern, you know, 423 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: just as far as where they go when we get 424 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 4: to January, it could be, which you know, again, like 425 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 4: if they're wanting done in the playoffs, you'd probably hear 426 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: more of these big picture questions. 427 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: All right, ab moment of truth, Yeah, true, Yeah, here 428 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: we go. It's a big one. 429 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ohio State UCLA, Oh go to the shoe. 430 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. And do you believe that at. 431 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: The end of that big matchup this Saturday night, that 432 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State will have won the game by more than 433 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: thirty two and a half points? 434 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 8: Wow? 435 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: Thirty two and a half That is a big line. 436 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: Oh see, I'm thinking something like thirty eight to seven. 437 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: The last time Nico was there is helmet got split 438 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 4: in half. 439 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: He played alright in that game. 440 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: Oh what Nico? 441 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he was fine in that game. He was fine. 442 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like they kicked him out. They 443 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: wanted him back, right, Like. Yeah, I would say, dude, 444 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: I had Purdue covering last week. 445 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 5: No, I didn't. 446 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: I think I'd messed this up a couple of weeks 447 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 4: in a row. So I would say, take Ucla in 448 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 4: the points. 449 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, yeah, I just think we were saying here, Albert, no, 450 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: last week, no. 451 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 5: Last week. So last week. 452 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: What screwed me up last week was like our coach 453 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: is legitimately treated that like a scrimmage. That's a Purdue team. 454 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: By the way, it. 455 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: Took Michigan into deep water. 456 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 5: But that's neither here. 457 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 4: Okay, but Purdue, like there was there were some there 458 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 4: were some interesting substitution patterns in that Purdue game. If 459 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 4: you really want ship like, it was legitimately being treated 460 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: like a scrimmage. And I'm a little afraid of that 461 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: happening again. If I'm betting on this, you know what, 462 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 4: screw it, I'll take the buck Eyes. 463 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, there. 464 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: Screw it. Screw it. 465 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 4: I'll take the buck Eyes to cover where it's been 466 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: doing that this weekend, Brady, we're. 467 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: Covering your arch nemesis. We'll be at Wrigley for uh nice. 468 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 5: Nice. I actually thought I actually thought about going last year. 469 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: I don't know how that is. 470 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 5: For a football game. They do they still have to 471 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 5: go in only one direction? 472 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: Is that still the way it is? 473 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question. 474 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 6: I actually had the same question, and that has not 475 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 6: been answered yet. So I'm pretty sure that it was 476 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 6: a few years ago, right, like, yeah, they can figure 477 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 6: it a way of doing it now where I believe 478 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 6: they go both directions. So okay, unless that, unless I'm 479 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 6: wrong in assuming that I'll be updated here shortly. 480 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: There you go. 481 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 5: We'll keep me posted on that. 482 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you're really curious what a Michigan does 483 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: this week, Albert. We appreciate it as always. Get them 484 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: on X Atrier. He is the senior NFL reporter lead 485 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: content strategist at the m MPB at a Thursday tradition 486 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: here on the show. 487 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: Thanks Aby, All right, Yeah, that was. 488 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: I remember that, And they didn't even think that through 489 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: when they put the first game in Wrigley, Like, hey, 490 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: you know there's not enough room here because the stadium's 491 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: not big, and so they had to just go in 492 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: one direction. For an actual football game, like an actual 493 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: regular season game, they had to go in one direction. 494 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: So pretty old school. But dang, I think they've gotten 495 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: that old thing out there. Dang, Dang, dang Tang, what 496 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: a place. I'm jealous Tang. 497 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: By the way, we are brought to you by the 498 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: Home Depot. Makita tools at the Home Depot are built 499 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: with precision without shortcuts. Designed for the toughest jobs. Is 500 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: a choice for pros when the job calls for the 501 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: best calling. Makida built to me the best available at 502 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: the Home Depot. How pros get more done? 503 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: All right? Coming up next year? Was he the dang counter? 504 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: Hopefully I caught up, tang damn. 505 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: Coming up next here we are going to tell you 506 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: how how things were supposed to change in one division 507 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but apparently they're just going to continue 508 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: on staying the same. 509 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: That'll be yours here on FSR. 510 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 7: You want to know what doesn't change that amazingness of 511 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 7: a football? Win that food When you put a little 512 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 7: bit of that Oge original Louisiana hot sauce on it, 513 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 7: whoa hit your taste buds? With fire, because there's nothing 514 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 7: like bringing the heat from that original Louisiana hot sauce, 515 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 7: the peppery peppers, the vinegar and the salt, the humanity 516 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 7: of Louisiana flavor masters who have been blending perfectly for 517 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 7: almost one hundred years. It'll turn every good meal into 518 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 7: a great mill, and every great mill into a party 519 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 7: on your plate in your mouth. WHOA, that's right. Wings 520 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 7: not jos Burgers, don't matter. You hit it with that 521 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 7: original Louisiana hot sauce and it is unbeatable. 522 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: That's right. And listen, your team didn't do well while 523 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: you was tailgate and eat your good food. 524 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 7: Don't worry about it poor that Louisiana hot sauce on 525 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 7: it anyway, because well, it's the pain, that's right. And listen, 526 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 7: you want to enjoy your food on a whole different 527 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 7: level like I do. Just jump into some original Louisiana 528 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 7: hot sauce that's Louisiana hot. 529 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: Make sure you buy. 530 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 9: You be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros 531 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 9: and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, 532 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 9: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am 533 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 9: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the IHEARTRADIOI Fox Sports 534 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 9: Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be a 535 00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 9: part of it. 536 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: Just go to YouTube and search Fox Sports Radio. 537 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 9: Hit that subscribe button and smash that notification pill and 538 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 9: catch all the videos from your favorite shows. 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That'll be yours right here on FSR. 551 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: It is a Thursday Night, which means the kickoff of 552 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: Week eleven in the NFL coming up later on tonight, 553 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: and boy, oh boy, do we have a good one 554 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: for you. It's the Awful Jets at the Surprising Patriots 555 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: with New England A twelve and a half point favorite, 556 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: as that game will be featured on Amazon Prime in 557 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: all its glory later on tonight. The Patriots, I think, 558 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: are rolling out a new New Jersey combination as well too. 559 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: I've seen glimpses of it. It's awful. They should go back. 560 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: They should go back to the Patenteel looks man looks more, 561 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: New age looks cool. 562 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: How many Jets fans do you think when Brady and 563 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Belichick finally left, were like, thank god, now now we 564 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: can get a shot, Like now we can and then 565 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: here we are just a few years later, and it's 566 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: the same old thing. 567 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 6: If you're a Jets fan, can you really focus on 568 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 6: any other team when your team struggles the way it does. 569 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 7: They're on a two game winning streak, that's true, I 570 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 7: mean that's done. Maybe they've started to turn turn the 571 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 7: tide a little bit. I feel like that's what makes 572 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 7: this game interesting to me, because of the hatred that 573 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 7: they harbor for one another. I still think that that's 574 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 7: a part of it. It's interesting because if I if 575 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 7: I recall it, does that did Glenn play for the 576 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 7: Jets when when Mike was in He might have been 577 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 7: in Pittsburgh, but I would assume maybe they they went 578 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 7: against each other as Jets and Patriots as players Vrabel 579 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 7: and Glenn, But anyway, I just I think this is. 580 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: A game that will. 581 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 7: Go a long way for New England and knocking knocking 582 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 7: the Jets off of their two game high horse. You know, 583 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 7: you start to feel like you're gaining momentum. And I've 584 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 7: been there before. I remember we went oh and five 585 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 7: with Marty our first year, and then that that sixth 586 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 7: game against Carolina we found the way to win it, 587 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 7: and then we rattled off five games straight. You start 588 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 7: to have this sense of belief, and the momentum makes 589 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 7: practices better, you know, that makes the relationships kind of 590 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 7: come together better. 591 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: Maybe one year, two thousand and one, one year, yeah, OK, 592 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: one year. It just to me. 593 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 7: This is obviously it being a divisional game, the Patriots 594 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 7: can prove a lot by by doing what they need 595 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 7: to do and taking care of them. But for the Jets, 596 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 7: it's a tremendously, tremendously big game because this goes further 597 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 7: into the bag of belief for them. If they're able 598 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 7: to have a good showing and possibly win this game 599 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 7: tonight on a national stage, it could mark or signify 600 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 7: the changes here, like the change is happening. Maybe culture 601 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 7: is changing in New York. 602 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, it would definitely go a long way in building 603 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 6: I guess confidence in Aaron Glenn and what this team 604 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 6: has been, considering the O and seventh Star, considering you know, 605 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 6: you'd like to see your team playing better in the 606 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 6: second half the season the first half and I think 607 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 6: you know, a couple of wins will showcase that. Now, granted, 608 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 6: tight games honestly probably could have gone either way, especially 609 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 6: the Bengals game the way that whole thing worked out, 610 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 6: But this is a new challenge. 611 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: And then this is more to me. 612 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 6: If like you're the Patriots and you're for real and 613 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 6: you are going to win the division, if you are 614 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 6: going to try to be one of the top seeds 615 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 6: in the playoff picture, you shouldn't have any issue with 616 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 6: the Jets despite the fact they are divisional opponent. I mean, 617 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 6: they've traded away some of their talented players and so 618 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 6: even offensively, if you're Drake may like, you know, you 619 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 6: don't have Quinn. 620 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: Williams, you don't have Sauce Card anymore. 621 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 6: You know, you don't have to worry about those those matchups, 622 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 6: So like the line's big for a reason. That's a 623 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 6: lot of points though, So I don't know that the 624 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 6: Patriots win by that much. But I do think this 625 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 6: is just as big of a proving point for Aaron 626 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 6: Glenn to try to knock off one of the top 627 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 6: teams and roofed ownership and Whatdye Johnson that he is 628 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 6: the right guy for the job. I think it's equally 629 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 6: as important for the Patriots not to stumble. We've seen, 630 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 6: I mean, this has been a year where we've seen, 631 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 6: you know, the Green Bay Packers for example, where we thought, 632 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 6: you know, they were a team that was rolling. Carolina 633 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 6: goes into their house and beats them, and not necessarily 634 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 6: in a high scoring affair either. You know, we've had 635 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 6: a number of surprises. You look at earlier this season, 636 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 6: Pat's got knocked off by the Raiders, right, I mean, 637 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 6: now we look at where the Raiders are at. 638 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: So you start kind of combing. 639 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 6: Through the various matchups and games and some of the surprises, 640 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 6: like I don't think the Dolphins we're gonna, you know. 641 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: Take the bills of the woodshed like that did last week. 642 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 6: Like this is one of those games where I don't 643 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 6: I don't take anything for granted in the NFL on 644 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 6: any given Sunday or apparently Thursday NW too, despite what 645 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 6: John Gruden wants. You know, any team can beat any team, 646 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 6: So to me, it's a proving moment too for the 647 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 6: Pats if you are as good as we think you are, Like, 648 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 6: this shouldn't be that close, you know this, this really 649 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 6: shouldn't be an issue. 650 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: It's just interesting. 651 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 7: The Bills and the Cowboys are the only two teams 652 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 7: that that really had convincing winning margins against the Jets. Otherwise, 653 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 7: they literally are right there to win the game and 654 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 7: every game they've they've played this year. 655 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: If the Jets win this game, Mike Gravel should be fired. No, okay, 656 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: let's not go that, get Williams. 657 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 7: No, that's very true, and that does make a very 658 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 7: big difference. That is true. But I feel, I mean, 659 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 7: I don't know that. I mean, I watched the way 660 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 7: they played last weekend. Man, it looks like a team 661 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 7: that wants to win it. But but there's three phases 662 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 7: to every game. You can't say that, like it's like, 663 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 7: that's like you can't include that. 664 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: The Jets had one hundred and sixt nine yards of 665 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: total offense I get. 666 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 7: It, but that has nothing to do with the defensive. 667 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 7: Y'all just brought up two defenders, not their offense. I'm 668 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 7: not saying they're a world beating team. I'm not saying 669 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 7: they're heading for the super Bowl, but I will say, 670 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 7: can they continue to be competitive? And can they win 671 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 7: a game as big as this one? This is clearly 672 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 7: their biggest game and in three weeks. 673 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: Rabel is a defensive guy. Aaron Glenn's a defensive guy. 674 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: Why are you siding with a gn here because he's black? 675 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 6: Okay, there you go, all right, solve that. 676 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 7: That's so stupid, Like I just gave you what you thought. 677 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 7: That's not I'm not siding with anybody you're signing. 678 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: We get it, we get it. 679 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 7: No, Actually, I mean if I'm saded with anybody, top. 680 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: Gun var top Gunham, Oh yeah, top gunn. 681 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 7: I would I would side with with Grabes because he's 682 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 7: a linebacker and he's a big ten linebacker and he 683 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 7: played for my team. 684 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: I was a fan of them. 685 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: Do you top gun or do you fish bump like 686 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: guys like Brad top guy? 687 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: They got something way cooler than that. Yeah, we die. 688 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: That's how white? You a fist? Bump. 689 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 6: Well, you can't like a step up for the white guys. 690 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 6: That's like what that's like what dolphers do. 691 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: Adapt takes too long. You gotta get it, not if 692 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: you know what you're doing. Well, a little dap up 693 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: on the show each week, experts, come. 694 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 7: Come, let me show you the soul brother. The soul 695 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 7: brother hand goes like this, right, you go, you get 696 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 7: na see you have already messed up. Right, you got 697 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 7: to keep the hand. Now, you got to keep the hand. 698 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 7: You can't teach you right, you got to keep that 699 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 7: whole dog. 700 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: And then the thumb. 701 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 7: Now you can't close your hand yet. You gotta squeeze 702 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 7: the thumb right, and then you come in. Then you 703 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 7: grab it right, and then you slide out and then yep, 704 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 7: yep yeah, and then you go back up again. Then 705 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 7: you go back up like like birds will come back down. 706 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: Then you do it again. He's like capable of adapting 707 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: at this age. Like I'm so happy to be here 708 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: for them. Let's say it out of here, Let's try 709 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: to get Let's try one more time. Let's see if 710 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: he's got it. I mean, it's it's a it's a 711 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: little uncomfortable, it's a little stiff. It's a little robotic. 712 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: He's always stiff, a little robotic, right, what is it 713 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: you're like holding the no no, no, yeah, yeah, So 714 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: you gotta look. That's how you tap someone up. Grab it, 715 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: then you gotta come back grab it. Then you go 716 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: back up again, you take it up, then you come 717 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: back down and bound. Then you done. 718 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 7: And if you really bang with somebody, like if that's 719 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 7: really your guy, when you come back down, when you 720 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 7: come back down, when you come back down. 721 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: With it, then you keep going. You snap that that bad, 722 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: you got snap that mad. But you're gonna just keep 723 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: going up and down for me? Like, Yo, how you 724 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: been mad? Youve been all right? Pop that? Now? When 725 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: do you use the hand sanitizer after? 726 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: Uh? 727 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: You know you can, you can clean your hand off. 728 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: I definitely am left eat up with it, though you 729 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 2: had Let me be the first to apologize for my people. 730 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: No worries, man, all right, it's all good. I just 731 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: I just show to Endure that I just showed him a. 732 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 7: Secret, a very sacred uh, a very sacred thing that 733 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 7: that is very near and dear to to my culture 734 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 7: and to my people. I gave you the soul hen 735 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 7: and speaking of something else that's near and dear to us. 736 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 7: That original Louisiana hot sauce. 737 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: We use that too. 738 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 7: You know, it's a perfect balance of peppers, vinegar, and salt. 739 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 7: You use it on your wings, your nachos, your burgers, 740 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 7: even if it's clam chowder. For for Jonas, hit any 741 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 7: tailgate food with that bold hand grabbed the flavor of 742 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 7: the original Louisiana hot sauce. That's Louisiana hot. 743 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: Make sure you bought you too, toney man, Throw that 744 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: in some clam chowder and a bread bowl fire. I 745 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: had some lobster biscuit, hermosa. Stop. That sounds so good. 746 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 2: And let me tell you something. They lobstered that bisk up. 747 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: They put the whole thing in it, man, I said. 748 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 7: I looked at him, I said, how much lobster do 749 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 7: y'all put in your lobster biscuits? Because you know they'll 750 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 7: get you there Like it looked like it's pureade lobster 751 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 7: in there. Like I don't want no puade lobster chunks. 752 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 7: I want them chunks. And I mean that thing came out, 753 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 7: it was just it was just coming up out of 754 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 7: there like a mountain damn chunks. I got loose on 755 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 7: them chunks, shoving them in my face. I enjoyed. My 756 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 7: yo was so good? 757 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 2: All right. 758 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 7: Anyway, I do think that this is this game tonight 759 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 7: does whole entertainment value because you have two first year 760 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 7: head coaches. One is clearly thriving and maybe making a 761 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 7: Coach of the Year campaign candidacy on what he's been 762 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 7: able to do in such a short period of time 763 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 7: in New England. But there is the idea that Aaron 764 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 7: Glenn is starting to turn this team around. Let's see 765 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 7: if he can put together three games. You know, it's 766 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 7: a one to no season. Always want to know can 767 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 7: he can he get that dub tonight and and that's 768 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 7: a I think that makes this And they're going to 769 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 7: New England, so it's this a hostile environment. It'll be tough, 770 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 7: but if you can get a win on the road 771 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 7: in the division, then that I think it ultimately has 772 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 7: to be the conversation of is he turning this team 773 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 7: around like you you or or maybe you can say 774 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 7: he has started to turn the team around, and you 775 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 7: don't have to debate it anymore. I mean, there's there's 776 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 7: value to this game. 777 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, damn right it is. 778 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: He'll be one pros and a cup of Joe, Fox 779 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. 780 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're gonna close up shop with the 781 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: Leftovers right here on FSR. Two pros and a cup 782 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: of Joe Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonahs 783 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: Knox with you here. We're gonna be back on the 784 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: are tomorrow, same time, same place, six am Eastern time, 785 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: three o'clock Pacific. 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Here's the 798 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 9: left over? 799 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: Who's back right on? 800 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 9: Oh? 801 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 5: Are you right back? 802 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 4: Right? 803 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: Right right? 804 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 10: All the messages I got I missed you guys too, 805 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 10: Thank you so much. 806 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 807 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 10: Probably, but you have to but listen, because of you 808 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 10: know how much people don't speak up. You have to 809 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 10: multiply those two people by like one hundred. So two 810 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 10: people said it, two hundred people thought it. 811 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. Okay, yeah, sure, that's great affirmation, 812 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: I guess, Yeah, okay, goads. Anyways, let's go. 813 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 4: Let's go. 814 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 10: Okay, So competition really one runs deep in a lot 815 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 10: of these players. 816 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart is one of those true competitors. 817 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 10: Let's listen to how he was raised and how it 818 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 10: affects even the little things in his life. 819 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 2: It's kind of always how it's been. 820 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 8: You know, my dad coached me really hard when I 821 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 8: was a kid, and it never mattered, you know, what 822 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 8: opponent I was playing, what game I was playing, you know, 823 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 8: even if it's just like ping pong in the basement, 824 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 8: like me and him would go at it. And you know, 825 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 8: I just I hate that losing feeling, regardless of anything. 826 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 8: Even if I was playing pick a ball, you know, 827 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 8: and I lose, that's going to ruin my whole day. 828 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 8: So yeah, I just think that that's just something that's 829 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 8: kind of. 830 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: Just been instilled for me in a family aspects since 831 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 2: I was young. 832 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 10: Very do you guys agree that that it has to 833 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 10: do with how you're raised? 834 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 7: H I think everything has to do with how you're raised. 835 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 7: You know that you set a tone or you know 836 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 7: you you put the framework in place, or you don't. 837 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 7: Some some some people have to accept the challenge of 838 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 7: trying to figure it out because they don't have the 839 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 7: structure and they don't have that guidance of a debt 840 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 7: as it applies to this one that maybe either be 841 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 7: into sports or is even around. But yeah, I think 842 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 7: I think everything like has to do with how you're raised. 843 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 7: You're going to get that influence from somewhere. If you're 844 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 7: going to be competitive, you can have it in you 845 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 7: to be competitive. 846 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: Is it really such a thing as being too competitive? 847 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 4: Though? 848 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Well, I think there is. 849 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 6: There's a couple of thoughts on that you got to 850 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 6: be able to have a short term memory though, especially 851 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 6: as a quarterback, because when you're too competitive about it, 852 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 6: you a lot of times trying to harp on the 853 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 6: mistakes and you try to make sure you don't make 854 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 6: those mistakes again. 855 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: So that's one aspect of it. I think the other 856 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 2: thing is if you get too emotional about defeat, then 857 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 2: you don't learn from it. 858 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 6: Like at some point you got to sit back and 859 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 6: learn where your mistakes were, why you lost, and then 860 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 6: learn from that and move on. So that's the tough 861 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 6: part is like you don't ever want to lose, but 862 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 6: you also have to understand when you lose how to 863 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 6: respond to that. And it's it's hard to do at 864 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 6: the NFL level because you lose a lot more in 865 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 6: the NFL than you do in college. 866 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 2: That's why I'm bad at gambling too competitive. 867 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 7: Well, you lose a lot more in life than you 868 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 7: you win in theory, so you're supposed to be able 869 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 7: to take the lessons and apply it to to winning, 870 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 7: so that the winds. 871 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: Really matter when you win in life, you know, with 872 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: the gambling money. I don't know, but I like being 873 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 2: ultra competitive. I cry when I lose. This is what 874 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 2: it is, really. Oh yeah, and I want to fight 875 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 2: and I break remotes and I'll slam