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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. I am back from some days

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Speaker 1: of R and R and appreciate my man Clay holding

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Speaker 1: it down in my absence, and we are now both

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Speaker 1: here with you today and a lot to discuss. First off,

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Speaker 1: guest wise, so we can set the table a little bit,

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Speaker 1: We've got Jake Beckett, former NFL play or Army ranger,

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Speaker 1: Arkansas Senate candidate. They printed his name wrong on ballots

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Speaker 1: in his state and then didn't want to correct it. Apparently.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Obviously, lawsuits underway there. Plus recent

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Speaker 1: primary victor JD Vance of the GOP he just won

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Speaker 1: the Republican nomination to run for Senate in Ohio. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to him about well, basically everything, situation of the economy.

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Speaker 1: Really interesting information came out of the weekend about the

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Speaker 1: baby formula shot Ridge, which Clay and I have been

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Speaker 1: talking about a lot, because a lot of you, not

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Speaker 1: only we're calling in deeply concerned and let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: you know, ticked off about the situation, but you're emailing

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Speaker 1: us and reaching out. It turns out that Abbott Labs

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Speaker 1: at least is saying, or the Abbot Abbott company that

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Speaker 1: makes the baby formula, that there was no actual connection

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Speaker 1: to their plant being tainted and did not This is

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Speaker 1: what appened. Now you could say that's Abbott's position for

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Speaker 1: legal reasons whatever it may be, But we got to

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom of that one. As well as

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Speaker 1: the forty billion going to Ukraine. We'll talk to JD

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Speaker 1: about all that. But the big stories, unfortunately this weekend,

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Speaker 1: we're just about a lot of a lot of horrific violence.

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Speaker 1: The incredibly evil, awful and atrocious racist shooting in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Ten ten African Americans killed, targeted by an evil lunatic,

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Speaker 1: and we'll discuss us more about the political and the

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Speaker 1: politicization of this that happened right away from the Democrats

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Speaker 1: blaming people who had nothing to do with this, who

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Speaker 1: say nothing, would never say anything other than pure condemnation

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Speaker 1: of this hateful act, but saying it's the Goop's fault,

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Speaker 1: and then moving to gun control and all kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss the political fallout of that event. Already from Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: there's also a mass shooting in the Laguna Beach area

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Speaker 1: of California at a church that one fortunately was stopped

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Speaker 1: by parishioners, but one fatality. There. A number of individuals,

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Speaker 1: mostly senior citizens Asian Americans, were shot. Clay told me

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, and I saw this headline after he

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Speaker 1: texted me, and I dove into a little bit. Twenty

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Speaker 1: people shot, yeah, right, like twenty people trazy outside of

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Speaker 1: a Bucks game in Milwaukee. And then I have and

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to get to all of these,

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Speaker 1: but I will just tell you that I went to Chicago,

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Speaker 1: I should be careful. And I grew up in New

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Speaker 1: York City and I was here during the time of

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Speaker 1: the greatest violence the city had. So I think of

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Speaker 1: myself as a city dweller who knows his way around.

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Speaker 1: And I will tell you when I was walking at

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Speaker 1: in the Millennium Park on a beautiful day, I turned

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Speaker 1: certain neighborhoods in Chicago. I'm going to dig into this

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Speaker 1: some more. I want to be open minded about a clay.

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Speaker 1: I said that, and standing in front of the bean

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Speaker 1: There was a fatal shooting a few hours later, a

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Speaker 1: We clearly have a violence problem in the country, and

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Speaker 1: it's time to talk about some honest and real solutions

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Speaker 1: and preventative measures for it. I don't think there's any doubt,

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Speaker 1: And to your point, now there is a curfew basically

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Speaker 1: She for some reason, was in Texas when all of

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Speaker 1: this was happening in Chicago, Buck posting herself wearing a

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Speaker 1: mask in a Texas bookstore reading to Kill a Mockingbird,

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Speaker 1: out of touch can you be to one not be

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Speaker 1: to be that dumb and Bucket. This is an awful

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Speaker 1: who's to blame anytime one of these shootings happens. Anytime

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Speaker 1: I think he's mentally ill, the shooter in Buffalo. It seems,

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Speaker 1: based on the things that he has put out there,

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Speaker 1: And I believe the solution. And this is the argument

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Speaker 1: This is the argument you made on your show when

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Speaker 1: people get shot outside of Milwaukee outside of a Bucks game,

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Speaker 1: an NBA basketball game, Game six. Milwaukee Bucks are playing

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Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics. They had to cancel the gathering of

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Speaker 1: they could safely allow that many people together. In Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: Murders are skyrocketing. This is happening all over the place.

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Speaker 1: There's only one solution, and it's to let police do

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Speaker 1: do it irrespective of whatever leftist narratives there are. Whatever

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Speaker 1: are systemically awful or evil, that's not true. The data

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Speaker 1: This is not getting better. New York, Chicago, you know,

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Speaker 1: to talk about an insurrection When you say we're our

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Speaker 1: of course like everybody listening. You know, you're heartbroken about

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Speaker 1: make it through, right, And what are the what are

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Speaker 1: these solutions or what are the actions they want to take, Clay?

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Speaker 1: They want to blame Fox News, Yeah, they want to

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Speaker 1: institute more firearm regulations that a. I mean a psychopathic, premeditated,

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Speaker 1: apparently the school that there was some awareness that he

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Speaker 1: what kind of mental health intervate interventions can you actually have,

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Speaker 1: But these are the people that now come forward as

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Speaker 1: I just hope that people that care deeply about this,

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Speaker 1: I think we all do know that the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: look at the data, overwhelmingly the rates of crime are skyrocketing. Buck.

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Speaker 1: I think your experience in Chicago, the place where that

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Speaker 1: is where families go on a beautiful Saturday. There haven't

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Speaker 1: murders are at levels we've never seen before, which is

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Speaker 1: why when I saw those twenty kids getting shot outside

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Speaker 1: of a game. I mean, you're trying to think about

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Speaker 1: Let's go watch the Milwaukee Bucks game six outdoors, Let's

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Speaker 1: go take our kids, Let's have a great time. Twenty

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Speaker 1: I mean that should never happen in any American city, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic,

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Speaker 1: if they want to follow your campaign get involved? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: jadevance dot com. I will say, we're gonna have an

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Speaker 1: J D One last question for you, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Tucker or Carlson, who I know you've been on his

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Speaker 1: about that? Oh, I think it's so vile. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is just exactly what happens in American politics, and

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Speaker 1: it shows how politically motivated these people are. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: Tucker is a friend of mine. He's not just somebody

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Speaker 1: I want to show. He is not a race. He's

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Speaker 1: not a bad person. And the idea that I mean,

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Speaker 1: if he had, that would not mean Tucker Carlson is

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Speaker 1: The fact that the people are trying to use this

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Speaker 1: We are joined now by Arkansas Senate candidate in the

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Speaker 1: Republican primary, Jake Beckett. And Jake, I know that the

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Speaker 1: Arkansas primary is coming up soon and there's all sorts

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Speaker 1: of craziness, including the fact that they have misspelled your

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Speaker 1: name on the ballot. Tell us the latest on what's

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Speaker 1: going on in Arkansas. Well, it's worse than that, Clay.

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Speaker 1: It's not just a misspelled name and a typo. It's

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Speaker 1: the wrong name. So just to set the table for you.

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Speaker 1: So on last Monday, May the ninth, the first of

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Speaker 1: early voting here in Arkansas, we started getting these frantic

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Speaker 1: phone calls and text messages and social media dms and

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Speaker 1: screen shots from outraised voters in multiple counties in Arkansas

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Speaker 1: because they saw in our screen jots confirmed that my

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Speaker 1: name was wrong on ballots in multiple Arkansas counties it

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Speaker 1: said Jack Beckett instead of Jake Beckett. So you know,

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Speaker 1: we immediately spring into action, and we called some of

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Speaker 1: the election coordinators in these various counties to see what

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Speaker 1: was going on, and we expected them to be surprised,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, let me, let's fix these ballots. No,

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Speaker 1: they were expecting our call. They knew these ballots were

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Speaker 1: going to be wrong, erroneous for three weeks, so, in

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Speaker 1: violation of Arkansas state law, they covered it up. They

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Speaker 1: didn't tell anyone, They didn't notify me, the media, my opponents,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly, the voting public until we confronted them.

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Speaker 1: So they thought that they could just you know, sweep

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Speaker 1: this under the rug, kind of slap me around like

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Speaker 1: the typical Arkansas rhino. But no, that's not how I

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Speaker 1: do business. I followed the lawsuit. I drug all these

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Speaker 1: defenders into court and then you know, voila. They started

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Speaker 1: changing these voting machines within forty eight hours. They're supposedly

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Speaker 1: correct in one of the counties that were they were

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Speaker 1: previously erroneous. We're very fine to see another county. You know,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't be bothered to show up in court. They

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Speaker 1: claimed via email correspondence that they'll be fixed earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: But we're hearing reports. You know, I was speaking in

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Speaker 1: another part of Arkansas yesterday at a college commencement, and

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Speaker 1: I've heard from voters in other Arkansas counties who said

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Speaker 1: my name said Jack instead of Jake. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to give from the bottom of this. We are not

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Speaker 1: letting this investigation go because, you know, unlike a lot

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Speaker 1: of Republicans in Arkansas, Republican politicians in Arkansas and Rhinos

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Speaker 1: across the country who say they're full election integrity, I

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Speaker 1: actually mean it, and I'm going to show the people

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Speaker 1: of Arkansas that I mean business. Jacobs, who are they

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Speaker 1: in this situation? He said, they refuse to change it.

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Speaker 1: It seems this is one of these stories where it's

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Speaker 1: hard to believe until you really are told that by

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Speaker 1: the person affected. You know, you read the headline, you say,

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Speaker 1: how can they get the name wrong of a candidate

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Speaker 1: and not And as you point out, it's not even

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Speaker 1: like there's just a letter missing, it's actually a name

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Speaker 1: of another person. There's probably there's probably some guy out there.

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Speaker 1: Jack Becket is like, hey, I'm doing really well in

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Speaker 1: the writing campaign, right, I mean, it's crazy. Why are

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Speaker 1: they not? First of all, why do you think they're

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Speaker 1: not changing it right away? And what accountability measures are there? Well,

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Speaker 1: we're still determining if this is just stupidity and competence, laziness,

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Speaker 1: or something more nefarious or malicious. And I'm not giving

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Speaker 1: them the benefit of the doubt because the state Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State's office is blaming the counties. The counties are

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Speaker 1: blaming the Secretary of State. Of course, no one is

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Speaker 1: taken responsibility. And you know, I'm sure some of your

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Speaker 1: listeners have seen and heard the recording that my campaign

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Speaker 1: made one of these original phone call conversations with a

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Speaker 1: county election coordinator and they initially told us, you know

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Speaker 1: when when when they you know, thought that we just

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Speaker 1: would let it go, They told us, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: we knew about this weeks ago. The voting machine software

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Speaker 1: is controlled out of state by a company in Omaha, Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: so we can't get it changed. You know, Sorry, you know,

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Speaker 1: try again next cycle. Um So, so really it's what

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Speaker 1: I see is this is, you know, an effort you know,

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Speaker 1: either by Hokah, by Kru by the Arkansas Republican establishment

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Speaker 1: to stop me. I mean, I'm challenging, I'm primary challenging

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Speaker 1: a long time Arkansas incumbent US senator. He's been there

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Speaker 1: over twenty years. You know, he's just totally invisible. And

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of these Arkansas Rhino politicians, they

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Speaker 1: they're they're threatened by me, quite frankly, because they recognize

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Speaker 1: that I'm not one of these guys just going to

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Speaker 1: go along to get along, be part of the Washington uniparty. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, just go up there and be invisible. I

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Speaker 1: actually believe what I'm saying, Like I'm actually an America

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Speaker 1: First candidate. I'm actually going to hold them accountable, and

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Speaker 1: I'll be one of these guys who exposes these rhinos

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Speaker 1: from the right because they you know, they these politicians

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Speaker 1: they claim to hate the left, they really don't hate

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Speaker 1: the left because the left is the convenient enemy for them.

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Speaker 1: Who they really hate, who they really despise, are the

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Speaker 1: true believers in the Republican Party. Okay, us senators like

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Speaker 1: Rand Paul and Josh Holly and Ted Cruz and Ron Johnson, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the people like jd Vance and Blake Masters and myself.

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Speaker 1: You know, people like Ron de Santis. They hate us

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Speaker 1: the most because we show them what real leadership looks like. Look,

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Speaker 1: we show the people, their voters, their constituents, the people

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Speaker 1: they're supposedly representing. We show them what's possible, Like we

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Speaker 1: can have nice things. We don't have to have Mitt

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Speaker 1: Romney's and people like that up and down the ballot

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Speaker 1: in every single election cycle. We don't have to have that.

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Speaker 1: It can be better. So I think that's why they're

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Speaker 1: trying to take me out here in Arkansas. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna work. I mean, we're surging, we're

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Speaker 1: getting good reports back from early voting. The primary data

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Speaker 1: is May twenty four. You know, it's looking like it's

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Speaker 1: going into a runoff between myself and Senator Bozeman. And

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Speaker 1: if it goes to a one on one runoff against

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Speaker 1: me and John Boseman, we are going to win, Jake,

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Speaker 1: what are you seeing and hearing from people that they

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Speaker 1: care about the most on the ground in Arkansas right now.

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Speaker 1: So a great example of kind of the dichotomy between

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Speaker 1: the bleeding heart the beating heart of grassroots, you know,

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Speaker 1: versus the DC establishment. Is this issue over foreign aid

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine. You know, we're the Senate's about to vote

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Speaker 1: to pass this forty billion dollars foreign aid program to Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: And look, I've got no love for the Russian Federation,

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Speaker 1: But when I talk to voters on the ground here

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Speaker 1: in Arkansas, Okay, they don't care about the territorial sovereignty

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Speaker 1: of corrupt governments in Eastern Europe. Okay, they care about

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Speaker 1: the territorial sovereignty of our country of America. We have

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Speaker 1: a wide open southern border. Okay, we have millions the

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Speaker 1: beliegue immigrants coming into this country every single year, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we had in Arkansas. I talked to county sheriff's and

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Speaker 1: people wouldn't believe the amount of fentneil that comes into

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Speaker 1: our state right up by thirty through tech Arcana, up

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Speaker 1: through lit Iraq, and that comes straight from Mexico in

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Speaker 1: the US Mexican border. So you know, we have a

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Speaker 1: baby formula shortage. I mean, I can't believe I'm actually

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Speaker 1: saying that. But why are we sending forty billion dollars

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Speaker 1: to Ukraine? Okay, well, into what is essentially the bloodlands

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Speaker 1: of eastern Europe when we have young mothers in Arkansas

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Speaker 1: and across this country who are wondering how they're going

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Speaker 1: to feed their babies. So I think that is to

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Speaker 1: disconnect between the voters, the constituents, the people who have

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Speaker 1: boots on the ground, who do the living and dying

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Speaker 1: and working and praying in Arkansas, versus their elected leaders

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Speaker 1: in Washington. Jakebeckett dot com if you want to learn

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Speaker 1: more about Jake's run for the Senate in Arkansas. Jake,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us. Thanks so much, Thanks for

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