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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and it is a Friday, which means we

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Speaker 1: get a lot of stuff to.

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Speaker 2: Get to today, to get to Yeah, let's go, let's

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Speaker 2: get it in.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Steelers play the Green Bay Packers on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: That's a one o'clock start at the Akroscher Stadium, the

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Speaker 1: third game of a three game homestand for the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: don't see those too often.

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Speaker 2: Now, you take advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: You do have to take advantage of that. So if

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Speaker 1: the Steelers win this one will be two and one

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Speaker 1: during this homestand they'll be six and three overall and

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Speaker 1: firmly in control of where they want to be at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, huge. I mean, they're all big. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but I guess it's not a huge game. I mean

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Speaker 2: because it's not AFC, it's not division, it's not on

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Speaker 2: the line. But you got to take care of business.

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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a quote unquote must win

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Speaker 1: game in the NFL until you get down to a

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Speaker 1: situation where you must win to get into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but you'd like to win them.

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Speaker 2: And then you look at this one, you think you

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Speaker 2: should probably get this win if you play your best

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Speaker 2: game and you're at home and don't stub your toe,

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Speaker 2: take care of business here, don't turn the ball over,

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Speaker 2: don't screw yourself up. You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh, you know, I think you start looking

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Speaker 1: at the matchups here and it really comes down to me, Ah,

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Speaker 1: can the Steelers stop Green Bay's running game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think there's a lot, a big, big portion

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Speaker 2: of it, for sure. I think that's the biggest key,

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Speaker 2: namely Jones, but loves a good scrambler too, he's the

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Speaker 2: second leading rusher. One thing I think that they will do,

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Speaker 2: but the numbers imply that they might not, is get

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Speaker 2: to love. You know, they're they're they're past blocking numbers

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Speaker 2: are good, but I don't think.

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Speaker 1: They have a pace they even face a front seven

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Speaker 2: Now or on the road third and eight, and frankly,

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Speaker 2: just watching them, I don't think of them as a

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Speaker 2: great pass protection team. So if you do stop the run,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, can get them into passing situations. I

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Speaker 2: think you're going to create turnovers and you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to love.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so well. And you know when you

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Speaker 1: you mentioned love and scrambling. Here the Steelers have done

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Speaker 1: a pretty good job against opposing quarterbacks in terms of

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Speaker 1: allowing rushing yards. They're giving up basically sixteen yards rushing

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Speaker 1: per game to opposing quarterbacks. They faced Lamar already. Once

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Speaker 1: you face to Sean Watson, who else did they face?

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a runner.

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Speaker 2: Lawrence Lawrence, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, overall, they've done a pretty good job

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Speaker 1: against these running quarterbacks of not allowing them. Jackson got

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Speaker 2: They have done well. Cole Hulk them for those I

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Speaker 2: mean that's yeah, one that helps. You didn't have Cam

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Speaker 1: Really, but really with the when you're when you're rushing

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Speaker 1: these mobile quarterbacks, it's all about everybody staying in their

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Speaker 1: lanes and trusting. I mean, you want to kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially we're talking scrambles versus design run. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean Lamar is gonna have a lot

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Speaker 2: of designed runs where I don't they'll run love that

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Speaker 2: go At times. I'm not a big Love believer at all,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, with you. You don't love love.

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Speaker 1: I don't love love love love love.

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Speaker 2: But he does seem to have pretty good pocket presence

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Speaker 2: and awareness. He just that's bad accuracy and make some

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Speaker 2: crazy decisions too, But he does feel to rush pretty

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Speaker 2: well and gets out of the way. And we'll take

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Speaker 2: it and go at the right times.

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Speaker 1: In that situation. Do you want I throw?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you want him throwing from

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Speaker 2: He's not nearly as good a runner as even Watson

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Speaker 2: let La are, but he is. I mean, he can

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Speaker 2: throwing downfield, to be honest with Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 2: steels are on the put takeaways. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the accuracy, and that is like thirty eight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not even, and they do a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So let's take what he doesn't do well

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Speaker 1: and then do a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: So, but I don't even know that the intermediate stuff

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Speaker 1: I think it's like his completion percentage just so high

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Speaker 2: Like that six balls or five balls or whatever to.

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Speaker 1: All within two yards of the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's a NFL starting thrower right now

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Speaker 2: or maybe ever, certainly hasn't been. He was like that

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Speaker 2: in college too. He was scattershot. He made a lot

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Speaker 2: and maybe he's gotten away from that some, but he

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Speaker 1: He was not a guy that I really liked on now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what I was impressed with, like

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Speaker 2: his preseason and all the stuff I read in training camp,

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Speaker 2: and I overreacted to that then even early in the season.

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Speaker 2: But he was hardly pressured. And I think he's turned

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Speaker 2: into what he is, and I think they're going to

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Speaker 2: be quarterback shopping this offseason. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you look at it, he's completing a

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Speaker 1: It's funny. Cleveland's number one, the Saints are number two,

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Speaker 1: are talking about Kenny Pickett's completion percentage this year, Well,

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Speaker 1: two of those eight games that he's played in have

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Speaker 1: come against those two, you know, two of the best

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Speaker 2: This year, oh, it's the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: Conversely, if you look at green Bay, they're allowing sixty

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Speaker 2: The league bottom. Yeah, and one thing is teams have

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Speaker 1: It's almost like a sucker bet, right, Please do that, Yes,

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Speaker 1: please do that, because you're allowing our past rush a

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Speaker 1: we'll make three big plays to your one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or even if it's one to one, it's still

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Speaker 2: you can't be you know, switching turn your ship turnovers

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Speaker 1: You can't have the turnovers. But so if you're let's say,

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Speaker 1: but if it's at forty percent, but a they're tackling

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Speaker 1: But the incompletions put you behind the chains. The sacks

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Speaker 2: Right, And it sounds like Christian Watson's gonna play. I

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Speaker 1: I mean he's been full. He's been full, you know,

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Speaker 2: So I mean, have the deep threats he's the one

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Speaker 2: the only one, but he's really the only one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Reid runs fine, but he's not a burner. Burner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: No, he's not. He's not a burner at all.

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Speaker 2: No. He gets a lot of end zone targets, you know,

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Speaker 1: So again, I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't trust their protection, not at all much as

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Speaker 2: the numbers tell you they should.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't get that at all. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: an interception per game. They're averaging half a fumble per

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Speaker 2: Quarterback to the quarterbacks. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean they're hitting quarterbacks or taking the football

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Speaker 2: Put a fumble from the quarterback every other game. You're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that's you know, high Smith coming

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Speaker 1: Right, and now you're adding, you know, Hayward up the

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's gonna be a lot interesting. Again.

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Speaker 1: I would love to give Mike Tomlin truce here him

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Speaker 1: and say, okay, are you because teams are trying these

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Speaker 2: Right? Right? I mean, I think you would prefer it.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of reasons. First off, I

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Speaker 2: and think they don't run great, you know, so we

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Speaker 2: want to get our speed. We wanted to challenge their speed.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that if you sat here with

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Speaker 2: coach dal On winning game trus Sareum, he would probably

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Speaker 2: be like, we'll roll with it, especially when we got

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Speaker 2: menca and center feet.

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Speaker 1: If you're yeah, if you're gonna you're gonna hold the

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Speaker 1: ball for three seconds, We'll.

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Speaker 2: Take our chances. Yeah, you know, if you get us

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Speaker 2: here and there, that's fine, but we're gonna minimum pressure

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Speaker 2: the quarterback, get quarterback hits, let alone sacks, fumbles, all

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Speaker 2: the things we were talking about especially when mink is

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Speaker 2: looming in the deep middle too. Yeah, okay, I mean

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Speaker 2: chances of throwing one over his head aren't great, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah against better quarterbacks, Okay, that's that's you know, different story,

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Speaker 1: different story. But in this game, you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was the one thing that Steelers did last

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Speaker 1: It is taking steps, and you know, I think the

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Speaker 2: He's having a consistent year.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me. I mean, all those things add up.

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Speaker 2: He's not the best fantasy running back in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's why people are killing him this year because he's

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Speaker 1: That's what Pickett is doing right now. He's not putting

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Speaker 2: I'd be curious just statistically if a game like this,

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Speaker 1: Know, to your point, Warren has seven broken tackles on

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Speaker 2: They're also the bottom the league in those categories, which

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Speaker 1: They were winning the line of scrimmage last week.

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Speaker 1: So I want to see more of that. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I do like their front, but it's I still

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, can just consistently churn out yardage.

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Speaker 2: Just too much and too many. There's too many snaps

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So do that run the ball effectively, win on

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Speaker 2: No, And I don't think you're suggesting or us are

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Speaker 1: Pass on first down, get seven yards and then run

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great, okay, fantastic, if that works. That's a good start.

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Speaker 1: we had a game last night to kick off Week

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Speaker 1: number ten. Happy Week ten.

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Speaker 2: Happy Week ten. We're on the second half of We're

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Speaker 1: We're in the back nine now. Yeah, it's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: It does feel like that, and well, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: Of course, you mentioned being on the back nine here,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine again, November tenth of twenty twenty two was

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Speaker 2: Imagine the old division goes.

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Speaker 1: to be overwhelmed going into one of.

439
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,480
Speaker 2: Those situations like going to Arrowhead. You know, nobody does

440
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,880
Speaker 2: they also aren't quite what they used to be either

441
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 2: at the moment.

442
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 1: You know, the teams on the bubble. Buffalo is in

443
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,440
Speaker 1: the eight seed Houston to nine, The Chargers are ten,

444
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 1: the Jets are eleven. The Jets think it's after the

445
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 1: Jets aren't in, the Colts aren't in it. No, the Raiders.

446
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 1: So I think it's really comes down to those one

447
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 1: of those three teams are all you know, any of

448
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 1: those three teams Buffalo, Houston or the Chargers getting in.

449
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 2: That's was that nine teams or ten?

450
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's ten, ten, ten teams.

451
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 2: It's a bad company album ten or ten for seven? Yeah,

452
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 2: which was yeah, ten for ten from seven? Ten from

453
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 2: six is the ten from six? Ye had ten songs

454
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 2: from six albums. Yeah's a great album. Right, So I

455
00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 2: ever need a fam company? Right?

456
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 1: So looking at the odds to make the playoffs for

457
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 1: the Steelers, it's yes plus one twenty okay, no is

458
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: minus one fifty.

459
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: That means they have to screw up a little bit,

460
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 2: but ye now and then not hold sir.

461
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 1: Their prediction is that the Steelers won't make it.

462
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought they so that wasn't predictions where.

463
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: That's where they're at now. Now they go into this

464
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: in predicting who's going to make it and who's not.

465
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: Okay, they're predicting you Steelers don't make it understandable. But

466
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's only one week. There's plenty

467
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 2: more to discuss. But either the Browns or Ravens are

468
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: going to lose, right, Either the Texans or Bengals are

469
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 2: going to lose. Correct, you know, so of the ten

470
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: four seven, someone's going to go backwards for sure.

471
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,199
Speaker 1: The Chargers played Detroit this week. Yeah, yeah, I know,

472
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 1: but teams playing each other, which is what happens.

473
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: Steelers have those coming up of course as well. But

474
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,479
Speaker 2: that's awfully important.

475
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: But if you win this one, now you've created a

476
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,360
Speaker 1: little bit of separation.

477
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 2: Like Houston would be in trouble if they lose a

478
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: Sancy Yeah, I mean pretty big trouble with another AFC loss.

479
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 1: Uh, it's six. Are the Browns third in the AFC

480
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 1: North odds to make the playoffs? Yes? Minus one seventy five?

481
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: No plus one fifty I would bet no all. I'd

482
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: take that. No odd long? Are you kidding me?

483
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 2: So?

484
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: They're not good on all is bad as bad as

485
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: the Steelers have been on offense, Cleveland's worse.

486
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't say any of the numbers you look at

487
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 2: all the stat pack stuff. I do. Of course, much

488
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: of the Steelers offensive stuff for the season is low

489
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,199
Speaker 2: in yards for play and you know, number of punts

490
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: per drive. The Browns are one of the teams that's

491
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: consistently worse.

492
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: Even with the shawn.

493
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, Yeah, no doubt. I mean they're I

494
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 2: think that's an overlooked portion of what's going on there is.

495
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 2: Their offense is future worst in the league. It's very

496
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: razor and better than the Giants.

497
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: What would happen if, like they're missing both their tackles. Yeah,

498
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 1: they don't have Nick Chubb.

499
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 2: And Jones is questionable for this week to the right

500
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: tack right, Yeah, what would happen?

501
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so they played some games, uh, you know without Watson.

502
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 1: What if Marii Cooper got hurt and he's he's been

503
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: nicked up over the course, you know he's.

504
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, he's a good player. He's not

505
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice gets.

506
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: Hurt, right, right, But that would destroy their.

507
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: Destroy their offense, It really would. He's having a good year.

508
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 2: He's a y because he's all they got yeah. Yeah, yeah,

509
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 2: And plus he doesn't like the cold.

510
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: Right, Like we've reached that point yet.

511
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you're in the wrong town, dude. Yeah, I

512
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: I I have some concerns with them too, because especially

513
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: because much more so than the Steelers, the strength of

514
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 2: their team is a great defense. They have to be

515
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: experiencing the same things that we talked about last segment.

516
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: Of the defense is playing more snaps than the offense.

517
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't know their snap coounts off the top of

518
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: my head, but and that's just gonna you know, the

519
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: toll is going to have to be paid for that.

520
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: Here's just more chance for guys that get injured. Tag.

521
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, what if the defense isn't That's what I mean.

522
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: What if what if you know, Miles Garrett wears down

523
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: at the end, or it gets hurt or you know.

524
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: I think I know your answer, but just throwing it

525
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: out there to kind of laid out for our audience.

526
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: If the Browns defense ends up and the season's over

527
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: eighth in dv O A, they're.

528
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: Probably they're not a playoff tam Yeah right, yeah.

529
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: And that's a really good year, but they're probably only

530
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 2: going down, right, you.

531
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, it's not gonna be. And some of that

532
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: is propped up by some bad quarterbacks that they faced. Yeah,

533
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean including last week. Yeah they didn't. They didn't

534
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: face an NFL quarterback last week.

535
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: Baltimore has a little bit of that going for him too. Yeah,

536
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: but yeah, such is life. I mean there's a lot

537
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: of bad quarterbacks out there too.

538
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: And they're the Browns. Do you trust them to get

539
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: it right?

540
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: Not? Really, No, I don't trust the quarterback at all.

541
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: There's a long history of Cleveland clevelanding kind of like

542
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: the charger's chargering, Like.

543
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: If they had Chubb, all the Ford's been fine and

544
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: I knew backs don't matter blah blah blah, or if

545
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: the O line was totally intact, you know, like be

546
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: a little different. Besides Garrett, I feel like those are

547
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 2: the things that they wanted to lose the least.

548
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they're teetering right on the edge right now

549
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: of being in deep trouble, like.

550
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: It could go bad. I do believe that because I

551
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: don't think Watson's going to rebound and be great. He

552
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: might rebound and be.

553
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: Average, Like he's going to get hit this week a lot.

554
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually I know we'll go.

555
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: And he's going to get hit next week.

556
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: That's actually one of my favorite bets of the week.

557
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: Is only six and a half point dog. I mean,

558
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: I think the Ravens are a lot better than the Browns. Yeah. Yeah,

559
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: and the defenses are comparable.

560
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: It's seven. The Bengals. They're five and three. They're the

561
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: fourth place team right now in the AFC North. They're

562
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: odds to make the playoffs. Yes is minus three hundred

563
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: no is plus two forty. Yes is what yes is

564
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: minus three hundred no Is minus. There's plus two forty.

565
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: At those odds, though, I would still bet no.

566
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: I suppose.

567
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're really good. Yeah, I think

568
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 2: they're going to go. I think they're the best team

569
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: in the division. With all respect to Baltimore. I think

570
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: they might.

571
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: Here's the thing the league. No Higgins this week.

572
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. If they lose the Houston this week,

573
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: we're in trouble. They're in builds trouble again. Yeah, and

574
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: I think.

575
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: They would be one in four in the AFC in

576
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: AFC games right and you would not They would not

577
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: be able to lose another AFC game all year.

578
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I only have good things to say about them.

579
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: But Higgins and Hubbard are already ruled out against the

580
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: quality opponents.

581
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Slip around walking with a walker, right, right of course.

582
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: And I mean you hate to say this because this

583
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: could happen to any team. I mean, we saw the

584
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: Steelers out, what we've seen Baltimore without Lamar. But if

585
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: Burrow miss is like one game, they're probably gonna lose

586
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: it no matter who they play again. Yeah, you know,

587
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we could say it's about all teams, but

588
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: they're they're not a shoe in because they started in

589
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: such a hole.

590
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: The Bengals, according to Tankathon. This is in the story

591
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: by Waing. The Bengals have the toughest remaining schedule in

592
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yes, according to Tankathon, but they're just them.

593
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: Classifies the Steelers and Vikings as tough opponents, which which

594
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: could be subjective.

595
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: That's what.

596
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: That's what. That's what the writer says. The Steelers beat

597
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 1: the Bengals last year in Cincinnati to open the season.

598
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: That's just the way the AFC North goes.

599
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how Tankathon does

600
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: what a tough opponent is.

601
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: Well, I guess the team with a winning record would

602
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: be a tough opponent, especially in division.

603
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I sat there thinking, I don't

604
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: think the Vikings are a tough opponent. But they could

605
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 2: beat the Bengals. Oh yeah, I mean that's probably a

606
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: six point game.

607
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jefferson's back and all of a sudden, you know,

608
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: they figured some things out defensively.

609
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why not. Laes knows that team, you know.

610
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not going to be surprised anything. Buffalo five

611
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: and four, second place in the AFC East. We've talked

612
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: about this one a lot.

613
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what their odds are though.

614
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: Odds to make the playoffs. Yes, is minus one twenty five.

615
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: No is only plus one oh five basically, so Vegas.

616
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: Vegas is seeing this as well, like, oh boy, their

617
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: schedules kind.

618
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: Of I was gonna say, I might have to like

619
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: hit pause and get on my phone if the NO

620
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: was like plus three hundred.

621
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: If it had been like if it was plus two forty, that, uh,

622
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati has here.

623
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: Because I would bet a lot of people just look

624
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: at that and oh, the Bills are a playoff team. What's

625
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: Vegas thing like that?

626
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: Plus one fifty on Cleveland is attractive to not make

627
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: to not make it.

628
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: I think so too. It's actually my probably my favorite

629
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: bet Yeh made of those.

630
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: No on the Bills. Why I lean towards no because

631
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: of what they have left that even.

632
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 2: Odds, I still think they get in. I don't know

633
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: what who's expense. I think they have a better chance

634
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: than the rounds, just because I think Allen's better than Watson.

635
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: The Bills this year are four and oh in Buffalo.

636
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: They're one in four on the road.

637
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: Okay, they want to not travel well London.

638
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, even so it's not one in four on the road.

639
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a lot of it's because they don't

640
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: have a consistent run game of defense. I mean some

641
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: of those staples are more of a you know, good

642
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: o lines travel know and run the ball travels.

643
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have Matt Milano, de Kwon Jones, Tredavious White.

644
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: There's three big pieces off the question.

645
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: I think Concaid's coming on. That's exciting. But the running

646
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: backs all of a sudden, like Cook isn't is attractive

647
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: for fantasies. He used to be no things like that,

648
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: you know, but they're I mean they could be a

649
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: good team. Yeah, I mean we think we all recognize.

650
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: That he doesn't even go to the Chargers here. I

651
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: would love to see what the charge, like charging is

652
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: a real thing.

653
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. But I also think that they were plus

654
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: three point fifty to get in, like maybe they get

655
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: maybe they might sneak into the seven seed something like that. Yeah,

656
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: but I mean they would have to pay off.

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Speaker 1: Well, So he thinks the Bills are going to be

658
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Speaker 1: the team and no, no they're not.

659
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Speaker 2: They went that far.

660
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Speaker 1: Thinks the Bills are the team that's going to over

661
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Speaker 1: because if he thinks that the Browns are thinks the

662
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Speaker 1: Browns and Bengals are gonna are going to get in,

663
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Speaker 1: the Steelers aren't, and Buffalo is going to overtake them.

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Speaker 1: I don't see that.

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Speaker 2: I think I think they have a better chance of

666
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: ever chance over taking the Browns than they do the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, yeah, I think so too,

668
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: just because of that skin I mean the Steelers, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean you mentioned the Bengals. Of the hard schedule in

670
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Speaker 2: the league, Bills isn't much different. No, I mean it's

671
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Speaker 2: probably second or third.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they still have games against the Cowboys and Eagles

673
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Speaker 1: coming up in chief and the Chiefs and you know,

674
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Speaker 1: they got to go to the Chargers, like not fin awful.

675
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: The Jaguars too. They already play the Jets like it's

676
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: it's a ridiculous Oh, they got to go. They gotta

677
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: go to Miami again. They're one and four on the

678
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: road this year schedules. They've lost at the Jets and

679
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: they've lost at the Patriots. They could lose to anybody,

680
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: especially on the road. They could lose to anybody.

681
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: Like Allen could take over a game and they could

682
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: beat anyone, but he could also throw three picks and

683
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: they could lose to the Packs. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very thin thin line there for the

685
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: And all those teams will make it.

687
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Speaker 1: But there's still a lot of football that's to playing.

688
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Speaker 1: The Steelers win this week, as we said yesterday, they

689
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Speaker 1: get them to a seventy three chance to make the playoffs.

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00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: So we only spend a lot of time and I

691
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: know we're up ag it's a break here. But who

692
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: do they project to go in the NFC? Like that's

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Speaker 2: seventh that's seventh seed in then it's ugly. Yeah, I

694
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Speaker 2: think it might be the Vike some more I think

695
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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: Uh So they look they're looking at New Orleans is

697
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Speaker 1: going to win the They're going to be the four seed.

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Speaker 1: At least get in. Yeah, Seattle gets in, Dallas gets in.

699
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Speaker 2: Then seven is not a good team.

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Speaker 1: Not Minnesota, Atlanta. They're saying Atlanta gets in because the schedules,

701
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: the schedules much easier. Yeah, and they don't trust Josh Stops.

702
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Speaker 2: I don't think the Rams can get there either. They

703
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Speaker 2: have both so thin.

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Speaker 1: They have to get really hard. Yeah, getting Stafford back,

705
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Speaker 1: We get Tyram Williams back to coming out of the bye,

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Speaker 1: that would be so big. Heyway, we're going to get

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Speaker 1: to a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with more right after this. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt

711
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Speaker 1: this quarterback match up on Sunday. I'm just looking here

712
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Speaker 1: at SPA or I'm sorry, NFL dot COM's quarterback index.

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Speaker 2: Woh okay.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I noticed here is I'm scrolling to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the league right now.

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Speaker 2: It's actually improving from a couple of weeks ago, is it? Well?

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Speaker 2: I mean Tyler's coming back fields is on the horizon.

718
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Speaker 2: Stafford's on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't have all that yetah, so just this

720
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: is what started. Basically, the index is coming off of

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Speaker 1: what started or who started last week.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's rock bottom.

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Speaker 1: So you had thirty two Brett Rippon who's no longer

724
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: in the league. You got cut thirty one Clayton to

725
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: and he's no longer starting.

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Speaker 2: He was really really bad.

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00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: Oh he was awful.

728
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like couldn't get him in out of the huddle pipes.

729
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: It's sixty sixty two passing yards. That's what he has

730
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: for the season in two games. In two games, three

731
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: point yard three point zero yards per attempt.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's really rough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tommy DeVito is actually thirty and not for the last.

734
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Speaker 2: Guy, nor should he be. I mean he's on a roster, yeah, roster.

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is at twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of lucky that there's so many that are

737
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Speaker 2: so bad that he's kind of deflected a little the

738
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Speaker 2: attention from him.

739
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Speaker 1: He shines in comparison, has been instead of paling.

740
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Speaker 2: And he's pretty bad too though.

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Speaker 1: At twenty eight is Bryce Young?

742
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: Were you impressed at all with him last night.

743
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: No, not at all either.

744
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: The little thing bothers me to know.

745
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Speaker 1: And yeah, five point five yards for passing attempt.

746
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know I'm kind of a Kyler fan,

747
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: but they play so differently in terms of being little.

748
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: Kyler flies around like Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah, and Bryce

749
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: Young like more of a pocket passer. And I just

750
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: don't know if he can do that. Yeah.

751
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Speaker 1: At twenty seven is Tyson Badgin't?

752
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Speaker 2: How about the first overall pick is behind Tyson Badgint

753
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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure that's crazy on how they've played

754
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: so far.

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00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, then you have Aiden O'Connell at twenty six.

756
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Speaker 2: Is Tyson Badgint the perfect example of Now he'll be

757
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: in the league for ten years. Oh yeah, and he's

758
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: set for life now soire.

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Speaker 1: He's two and two in his starts. Yeah, but he's

760
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Speaker 1: thrown three touchdowns and six interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I know.

762
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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like we're not this is not

763
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Speaker 1: next level. I had somebody tweeted at me yesterday, why

764
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Speaker 1: you know the Steelers or Devilin Hodges really balled out

765
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Speaker 1: with when he was with the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: No, I remember say that, like he balled out.

767
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Speaker 1: I said, no offense to devilin Hodges. But in his

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Speaker 1: six starts, I think he threw four touchdown passes and

769
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Speaker 1: had seven interceptions. That is not and he average one

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty six passing yards per game. Yeah, that's

771
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Speaker 1: not balling out.

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Speaker 2: And on third and seven that hand it off, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or they do a shovel pass. Yeah, right, something I

774
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: can do, right, Yeah, that's not balling out. Like I

775
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: think Tea Bag is better than Duck ever was. He's

776
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Speaker 2: exceeded my expectations to the point now that he'll be

777
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Speaker 2: a backup for life. Yeah, but he's not.

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Speaker 1: At twenty six? Is Aidan O'Connell.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't want to see them. You know, he's

780
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Speaker 2: over Pickett and mac Jones, those type of dudes. Yet,

781
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Speaker 2: I mean he's done. He's had a very easy time.

782
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: He's promising, but you got to do a little bit

783
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: more body of work before you can be twentieth on

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Speaker 2: these lists.

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Speaker 1: Which brings us to twenty five on this list, which

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Speaker 1: is in fact, Jordan Love he's better than the Drek basically.

787
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Speaker 2: That's about what Yeah about right, I don't think that's crazy.

788
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure Kenny. That's up.

789
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Speaker 1: He's up four spots from the previous week because a

790
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Speaker 1: bunch of Dreks started the wall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the veto's now a start. But he wouldn't

792
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: be over Daniel Jones. No, you know, or you know,

793
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: certainly not cousins.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's not over mac Jones.

795
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Speaker 2: I actually have a small soft spot for mac Jones

796
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Speaker 2: because I heard this comparison in the last two days

797
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Speaker 2: or so. The situation's so important and mac Jones was

798
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Speaker 2: never for me because he's not a playmaker. Yeah, but

799
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Speaker 2: if he were a Dolphin, you'd be starting in fantasy

800
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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, I mean because it get the ball out,

801
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: it hit Tyreek.

802
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Speaker 1: If the forty nine ers had actually drafted him instead

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Speaker 1: of Lance.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, there would be people out there saying, like they

805
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: do to Party into a Oh he's the eight the

806
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the.

807
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Speaker 1: Because he's more talented than Party.

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00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he plays on time.

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00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: He's got a better armies. Yeah.

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00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: Right, if they protected him and he could do that

811
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: like Party two, et cetera, et cetera, hardly anybody would

812
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: do well with the Patriots right now.

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00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just saw him. Any playmakers, he's the answer.

814
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: But you got it.

815
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: Last year they didn't have an offensive coordinator. Yeah, little thing,

816
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: it's open little things.

817
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that's how about some speed? Yeah?

818
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Uh. Then you have Will Levis at twenty three.

819
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Speaker 2: Like I'm putting him over O'Connell. I know they both

820
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: have probably played similar snap counts, but he's more impressive.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing is more talented. This whole, this whole

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00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: bottom ten. Really only two of these guys were starters

823
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: when the season started. Bryce Young in love Yeah, well,

824
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Speaker 1: I guess Max Jones.

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00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: Three, and some are due to injury. Of course, some

826
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: have been replaced because they're young.

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Speaker 1: Ritter's not on here anymore. We're in fact, in fact,

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Speaker 1: he's number twenty two.

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: Like frankly, Mac Jones on the Falcons would be better

830
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Speaker 2: than I think heinike.

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Speaker 1: They got a better offensive line, They run the ball

832
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Speaker 1: like crazy.

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00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not the biggest Mac Jones fan in the world.

834
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like he's in a tough spot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean where you're at matters huge.

836
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: I mean especially, I mean unless you're Aaron Rodgers or

837
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: you know a name that matters.

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00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: Of course, But twenty one's Gardner minshew.

839
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Speaker 2: It might be a little high for him too.

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Speaker 1: He's very like I.

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00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: Know neither one of us love Love. Who would you

842
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: rather play against Minshew or Love?

843
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: Minshew?

844
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: I think so too?

845
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: Everything sideways? Yeah he doesn't, he doesn't.

846
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about you. Would rather play the colts

847
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: of the Packers. Would you rather play Love or Minshew?

848
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: Like minshe w'd rather play Minshew.

849
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Minshew is completing sixty three percent of his past sixty

850
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: three point six percent of his passes, and yet everything

851
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: is sideways, like he doesn't throw the ball ten yards

852
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: down the field at all.

853
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: No, and if so, it's a massive design play action,

854
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: deep drop, chuck it up the pierce and keep hope

855
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: on it right right right, No, his degree a difficulty

856
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: is very low.

857
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: Then you finally get at twenty good coaching. At twenty,

858
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: you finally get the Kenny Pickett.

859
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: I bet people think pickets too high.

860
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: Well, I know one guy who is too high, and

861
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: that's number nineteen. That's Josh Dobbs. Yeah, I mean, would.

862
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: Rather play against Josh Dobbs or Love? And again, I don't.

863
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: Love Love, you know, I'd rather play against Love. I'm sorry,

864
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: I'd rather play against dogs.

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00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I plagainst Dobs two loves a better runner.

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00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Josh Dobbs. He's one and nine

867
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Speaker 1: as a starter. I love Josh Dobbs. Josh Dobbs is

868
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: a great kid.

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Speaker 2: And it's a tremendous story. And what he did he

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Speaker 2: did last.

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00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: Week really unbelievable. But he's one and nine in games

872
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: that he has started. He's thrown five interceptions this year

873
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: in nine games, and he's fumbled eleven times, which leads

874
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Speaker 1: the league.

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00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: He's been on three teams in like two months and

876
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 2: six teams in two years or something. If you don't

877
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: know what quarterbacks walk that they love.

878
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: If people suggest he's averaging five point eight yards per

879
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: pass attempt, he's not even Like it's not he's not. Again,

880
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: I love the kid, great kid. He'll play in the

881
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: league at ten years.

882
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: Oh he's set down.

883
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah he's set.

884
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: He's totally set. Yeah he might get traded eight more times.

885
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: But he's not better than Kenny Pickett.

886
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: No, you'd much rather play against then you much to

887
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: playing Stobbs and pick it.

888
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna make the mistakes.

889
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: That's why I would rather play. We actually end up

890
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: agreeing I'd rather play against Dobbs than Love, Yes, Love

891
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: might have might get hot, right, I mean he might.

892
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: He has done that in the second half of games.

893
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: I don't know that Dobbs can win a game for you.

894
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Love will do it often, but he can't.

895
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: Levice can.

896
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know at eighteen. Then you get to Deshaun Watson,

897
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: which is kind of where Deshaun Watson belongs.

898
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: I can't not necessarily Jones podium for some stupid reason,

899
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: but would the Browns be better than Mack Jones with Shawn.

900
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: I guess I get.

901
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean, well, we talked about this that shouldn't be

902
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: a conversation.

903
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: Before the season started. We talked about this, that Deshaun

904
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: Watson had to be a top three or four quarterback

905
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: for what they're paying him, what they're for that to

906
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: pay off, and he's not that.

907
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: He's yet to be better than the Browns version of

908
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett correct who was quite good. Like if we

909
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: were doing this last year, we wouldn't mention Brissette's name yet, Yeah,

910
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: he'd be fifteen or something like that. Yeah, I mean

911
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: he's striving to get there.

912
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: And yet people were talking about Deshaun Watson's game last

913
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: week against the Cardinals.

914
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: He's out of the woods with Clayton.

915
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: With Clayton Tune on the other side, there's no pressure

916
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: on him. It's like with Clayton TUN's on, I'm just

917
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: out there playing seven on seven because Clayton Tuon's not

918
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: going to score. They don't cross fifty the fifty yard line.

919
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at every coach quarterback in the world

920
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: should know that the opponent's that bad. If it's the Veto,

921
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: if it's Rich.

922
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: I'll check it down every single time. Because if we punt,

923
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: that's O Finny, that's fine.

924
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: I'll get the ball back and they're gonna run three

925
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: plays yet, right, I won't even take my helmet off. Yeah,

926
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: I mean, so that stuff matters to no question.

927
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: But he's completing sixty two percent of his passes in

928
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: five games. He's thrown three interceptions. He has four fumbles

929
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: in five games.

930
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're getting it from both those guys, Watson

931
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 2: and Love. Like last week was pretty promising.

932
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Remember one of those games. He only threw five passes

933
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: in one of those games, wow, and was out of there.

934
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: So he's basically averaging two turnovers per game.

935
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: And I wonder if you do it turnovers per snap,

936
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: it's probably.

937
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: Pretty high, near the top of league, probably pretty.

938
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: High, which is exactly what they can't do with that, right.

939
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: You can't give short field jones, you know, Yeah, absolutely,

940
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: it'd be.

941
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: Different if he had. But boy, did you see the

942
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 2: play he made that? Few else can I haven't seen those.

943
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Doesn't do that.

944
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't do that anymore.

945
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: He's not in three years, right, Yeah. Or the tremendous run,

946
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't do that.

947
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not quite sure what we're going to

948
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: see out of Kyler Murray. His layoff has not been

949
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: as long as that of Deshaun Watson.

950
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: But it's a knee.

951
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: But it's a knee. And is he going to be

952
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: able to play the same way that he played yeah

953
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: prior to That'll be.

954
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: Something he'll get there, but who knows about this week?

955
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? And again he hasn't played football in a year.

956
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's a new offense, right, it's a new

957
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: coaching to have new offense. Right, it might be fun,

958
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: it might be great. I mean some of those guys,

959
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a first overall pick. He's crazy talented.

960
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: He might move like he used to and fly around

961
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: but might be lost.

962
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: The Kingsbury offense was pretty vanilla by NFL styles.

963
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: I think it's a bad one. Yeah, it's a lot

964
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: of static receivers.

965
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: Nobody moves, there's no there's no pre snap action at all.

966
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: I think it was exposed.

967
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: You're in that spot, you're in that spot. You're in

968
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: that spot, and run your route combination off of that.

969
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean, all reports are good, but they would be

970
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: is he taking the laptop home and studying or not?

971
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: I mean they always have to throw that out there, yeah,

972
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: I mean not most quarterbacks get that written into their contract. Yeah.

973
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be an interesting weekend again, that that schedule,

974
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: the way it sets.

975
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 2: Another one that I mean think about the Cardinals couldn't

976
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: get him in out of huddle, no, a kind of

977
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: stuff like this operational stuff. They couldn't do the Rams

978
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: and Cards and Giants.

979
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the I mean the game obviously that the

980
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: games that Steeler fans will be watching will be Cleveland

981
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, huge, huge game, and then Texans at Bengals.

982
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: Those are both one o'clock games. But you also, you

983
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: know the Bills play on Monday night. They should win

984
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: against the Broncos at home.

985
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: Should I might bet the Broncos though with the spread,

986
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if they're getting like eight points.

987
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that, talk about you should win

988
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: the game.

989
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: I would keep a eye on Chargers Lions too.

990
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Chargers Lions is a big win in the AFC picture.

991
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: Love to see Chargers pick up an extra loss and.

992
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: Then Jets Raiders. If the if the Raiders find a

993
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: way to beat the Jets, they'll be five and five.

994
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 2: Is that a loser leaves town match?

995
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: If the Jets find a way they win, they're five

996
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: and four, they're still in it.

997
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't think anyone thinks either as

998
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 2: a contender. But would one more AFC loss not out

999
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: the loser?

1000
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: Uh not mathematics, It certainly would the Raiders because they

1001
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: would be four and six.

1002
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, mid round rookie corps.

1003
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: The Jets at four and five probably probably.

1004
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: I know their schedule is tough too, Yeah, you know.

1005
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting game in the.

1006
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: Overall is their one bit who wins?

1007
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: Not really, I don't think is a long term threat.

1008
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: The only one that I mean, if you wrote the

1009
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: story that Rogers came back for the last four games.

1010
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: You don't want to see the Jets in the playoffs.

1011
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: They got to get there first, to get there first, Yeah,

1012
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean they may have buried themselves in too deep

1013
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: of a hole.

1014
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: I don't think they're playoff game right.

1015
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. So you want to

1016
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: see the Lions win this week, knock the Chargers down

1017
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: the four and five.

1018
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a tough old climb.

1019
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: Out, I think I think you want to see.

1020
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: You'd like to see the Jags lose. I don't think

1021
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: it matters that much, but I play the Niners. I

1022
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: think it'd rather the Jags win to help your tie breakers.

1023
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: Stuff helps your tie breakers, and they're gonna win that vision,

1024
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really matter. You're not gonna be fighting

1025
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: for a wild card stuff with them.

1026
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, if Houston catches fire, you might maybe.

1027
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: But but they lose a tiebreaker either one of them though,

1028
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: that's the problem.

1029
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't think two teams from the South

1030
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: come out.

1031
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't think so either.

1032
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1033
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, the Texans still have to prove to

1034
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: me that they can win on the rope, which they

1035
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: have not proven. Their only their only robe win this

1036
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: year was in Jacksonville, and well.

1037
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm pretty Jags are a dog against at home against

1038
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: the Niners, right, yes, yeah, If the Jags won and

1039
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: Houston won, both dogs, maybe I could be convinced too.

1040
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: South teams come out that would be impressive wins this week.

1041
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: But I don't think the chance of that are high.

1042
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so either. You know, although

1043
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: we'll see, but you know, the Ravens or Browns are

1044
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: going to get a loss. One of the two is

1045
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: going to get a loss this week.

1046
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: We talked about this on Monday, I think, but which

1047
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: is better for the Steelers?

1048
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: We get to play the Browns next week? In the

1049
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, would you like to see the

1050
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: Ravens take a loss? Maybe they get to play Cincinnati

1051
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: next week.

1052
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: So I don't think you're ever going to get the

1053
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: Ravens out of the playoff equation.

1054
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1055
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: And I don't know that you can win the division

1056
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: as the Steelers.

1057
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: There's also this iron if the Ravens run away with

1058
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: the division.

1059
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: Then you get a Week eighteen.

1060
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: You get you play them in Week eighteen? Are they

1061
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: resting guys?

1062
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: They're probably not playing Lamar yeah. I mean, I'm sure

1063
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: Harball doesn't want anything to do with making the Steelers

1064
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: life getting the playoffs easier. But you don't play Lamar.

1065
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: You don't play Lamar. Maybe you sit Ronnie Stanley, maybe

1066
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: you shit Humphrey some of these.

1067
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: Or anything like that, one of those type of deals. Yeah. No,

1068
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: I think they want the Browns to lose. I want

1069
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: the Browns to get out of the playoff equation because.

1070
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: The Browns will brown like, the Browns will just like playoffs. Yeah,

1071
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: you start losing some of these games like this, and

1072
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: let's say the Steelers go in there and beat them

1073
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: next week, they're done. Yeah, it's over. They will fall apart.

1074
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're history has shown they're not going

1075
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: to six and oh to finish the season. No. Yeah, no,

1076
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: So I think you want them to fall apart them

1077
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: out of the way. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. Anyway,

1078
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: you want Baltimore to win.

1079
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to a He is Matt Williamson. I

1080
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: am Dale Lallie. You're listening to the drive here on

1081
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. That'll do it for hour number one.

1082
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: We'll be back with our number two. We'll start it

1083
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: off here in the next segment. With our DFS lineup,

1084
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: we're back on the back on the roll again. Let's

1085
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: keep it going this week. We'll do that right after

1086
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: this on a drive