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Speaker 1: to the eighty five South Ship. That's just all I

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Speaker 1: They breathed past security and they went around the party

426
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: looking for like members a bad boy and like and

427
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: looking for Andre and ship like that. Because that was

428
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: during that whole that was at the beginning of the

429
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: Ship club. N Man, my right handed guy, No, I

430
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: saw this. I was in cousin k Kevin's rill. He

431
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: was my guardian. He was traveling with me at the time.

432
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: So we were both in the spot hanging out and

433
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: doing our thing because it was a festive it was

434
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: the soul training work. The NIGG came through there, like, bro,

435
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be fun, but man, they came through

436
00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: on like they were pushing the line. All I've seen

437
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: I've seen Andre and Andrea, I let you got rest

438
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: your soul. Man. I saw Andre because we were laughing

439
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: about something, maybe finding this prior to that. But man,

440
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: when the niggas came through, I didn't see Andrea, and

441
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, Drake, where'd you go? He was like, man,

442
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: I ain't. He was like, man, I was out. But

443
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: it was It was one of those situations where I

444
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: saw all of that, like up close and personal, like

445
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: seeing Pockets Sugar, real aggressive out in the l A

446
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: streets for all the Death Row, like all the Compton

447
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: outside pushing the line. It was something to see. But

448
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: then it was also cool to see bad Boy and

449
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: what they were doing. They had such a you know,

450
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: an interesting energy like you know, shout out to Slim Pickings,

451
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: all the all the cats in the Um, Super Mario,

452
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: all the cats in the street team where they had

453
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: to picket signs and they'd be going up and down,

454
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: you know streets in New York like a real movement,

455
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: like how y'all got y'alls jackets. It was reminiscent when

456
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: I saw that, and that's why I was smiling to

457
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: myself inside because I've seen that before. I saw that

458
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: with bad boy and that energy and that presence that

459
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: y'all have just being young, black and brilliant and creative

460
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: and pushing the line like it was that that energy

461
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: I saw too early on. So I've been able to

462
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: see quite a bit. Man, you grew up in the industry,

463
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: but black Man and Clayton was talking about earlier. But

464
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: you gotta tell us about your experience working on THEO

465
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: Bro and episodes. But this ship is gonna live, like

466
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: you said, that's one of the ones that the Black

467
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: community ain't gonna never forget about. Yeah, Man, THEA was

468
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: I gotta say that was a great show personally for

469
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: me to be a part of. UM. I won't get

470
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: too heavy into it. There was a lot of There

471
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: was a lot of behind the scenes drama that went on. UM.

472
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: Not to rehash between like THEA and Brandy, Um, there

473
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: was like a somewhat of a negative undertone as far

474
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: as that's concerned. But the experience of for me personally

475
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: working at Universal Studios, working on the back lot, you know,

476
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: being on the same lot for fucking Martin, When me

477
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: and Brandy would walk down to the Martin set like

478
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: on our lunch break and watch them rehearse um to

479
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: being able to like freely, you know, walk up to

480
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: Universal Studios and get on the amusement rides. Martin rehearsals

481
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: real talk man, we go to and go right, Me

482
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: and Brandy and y'all can ask her this like you

483
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.

484
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: But what happened was we would we would have our

485
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: lunch breaks and the Martin said, like, you would come

486
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: out of stage five. I think that was our stage,

487
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: and you could make a right and walk maybe like

488
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: what would be equivalent with like a half a block

489
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: and it was Martin stage, and then we would just

490
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: walk in because we were the only other black show

491
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: on a lot, so we all knew we was there together.

492
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: And they never hated on this like they would let us,

493
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, Mark and T Shirt, Um Tommy got rest

494
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: his soul called. They would see us talking because we

495
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: all kids, they be like, man, y'all go up in

496
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: the stairs and man, y'all chill out. And so we

497
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: would see the Martin Show like two weeks before that

498
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: ship would come out. So I'll be calling it his

499
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: back home, like, man, wait till y'all see this ship.

500
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: How do you know that I like, watch this ship

501
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: with Martin say this, So I'm seeing you know, all

502
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: of that stuff growing up and me and me and

503
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: Brandy would you know, walk back to set and I

504
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: can't I can't speak for her, but for myself, I

505
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: would apply the things that I would learn watching them,

506
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: subtle nuances, little things. Um, it wasn't like jokes, it

507
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: was a facial expression. It was a mannerism. It was

508
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: the letting the joke live whoever the you know, learning

509
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: that chemistry of letting your co star have his or

510
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: her moment, learning that space that in comedy, which we

511
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: all know, there's a there's a timing, is a dance,

512
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: and especially when you work in it's a beat. So

513
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: I was learning all of that and that was my

514
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: college man. Was sitting there and watching you know them

515
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: do they thing and they were so gracious. I mean

516
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy there too when we did. He was doing

517
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Cop three on on Universal and me and

518
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: Brandy walked over there during our lunch break and he

519
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: was like, they they would know where we would be

520
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: going because anything that was black that would pop up

521
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: in you know, they like and especially you saw Eddie

522
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: Murphy and lark Man Olympus. Now we're going over there

523
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: was studying, you know, and Eddie was so nice. He signed, man,

524
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: I asked that to sign six things. Signed this for

525
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: my beg, me and my teacher. Woman. He signed it.

526
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: He asked all our question. And you know for me

527
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: that that was the lasting impression. Man. That taught me

528
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: how to be gracious, like with interacting with your fans

529
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: and interacting when people were at mars of your work.

530
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: Like those guys taught me how to be a star

531
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: because they were like they superstars and they still were

532
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: taking the time to like, so, man, you know what

533
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: you want to do, and how y'all like filming over there?

534
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, and you know, asking a little stupid ship.

535
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it were cool. Your little brother, your

536
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: little brother, huh your little brother. Yeah, you're talking about

537
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: his face. He had the worst haircut and that might

538
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: have been that was one of the top of three.

539
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: They still talk about your haircut. Man, you ain't never been.

540
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: He did not choose that logical. Father had a lot

541
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: to do. He did it, he said, he had im Sorry, Gritty,

542
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: but I gotta tell the because they do you dirty

543
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: out here. But it didn't on his hair cut like that.

544
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: His mom was cutting his hair like that and bread

545
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: his dad. He was real when he was a nice guy.

546
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: But you know he's like one of those quiet guys,

547
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: like a quiet husband. You would just see him looking

548
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: at his boy and you should see him laughing in

549
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: side himself, like now, how did hear you get on

550
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: Shmart guy? First of all time? Just goddamn light scared. Yeah,

551
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: the London nig light skinned. Yeah, daddy is light skined

552
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: and you scar. It wasn't but indeed, hell Like now,

553
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it real with you, d C Man,

554
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: that audition was flawless. Bro, that's one of the ones.

555
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: You just everybody want a big brother like you. I

556
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: appreciate no, and that I think that was the thing

557
00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: you learned from Martin. You were shout out to Omar

558
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: good into like we man, we would after work, we

559
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: would study other sitcoms and other performers. So you know,

560
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: we would study Jamie Um and this is this is

561
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: the work we were doing after work because we would

562
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: go home, we ordered pizza, smoke a little something, chill out,

563
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And it would be like, man,

564
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: let's look good. What's song? So what they're doing? So

565
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: we turn on this show, we study be like we're

566
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna do that ship better next week. Were don't flip

567
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: it like this and week. So me and Omar was

568
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: like doing that all the time, you know, just playing

569
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: with the craft, like just trying to figure out how

570
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: to be better. You know what I'm saying, Like how

571
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: you got young nigs that work on they jump shot

572
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: when they lay up, when they left hand, Like That's

573
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: what me and Omar would do every day after work.

574
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: We would just sit down and we look at shows

575
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: and we look at different performers and we would just

576
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: find those different things that maybe weren't in your face,

577
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: but they were subtle things that we knew that we

578
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: could play on them. Making my own this big brother

579
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: i've ever seen growing up good looking. It was like, okay,

580
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: you got your little brother from the kind of school

581
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: with he did, but it came sunk up my cool.

582
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: But how can I embrace my teen your little brother?

583
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: Fuck it? Not only that is he catching up to me?

584
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: Or it was like it was a lot of ship

585
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: as a child that y'all taught us as kids, like

586
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: and then't do with a black fatherhood. Yea period, man,

587
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: we didn't know d C Man that the kind of

588
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: example that we were setting, man, just keeping it all

589
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: the way and hunted like we were just having fun.

590
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: And I think for me Omar in particular, we wanted

591
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: to show young black kids who we really were versus

592
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: like how Sitcom TV would try to portray us a

593
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: lot of times like hokey and corny or you know,

594
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: and just some weird ship that they were saying the lines.

595
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: We'd be like, how the funk they get away with

596
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: saying that? So it was like we were the kids

597
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: where if they gave us a line and we knew

598
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: that ship wasn't gonna fly in the community, we'd be like,

599
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it, Like I'm not saying that, bro,

600
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Like okay, you want to get that kind of joke across,

601
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: why don't we say it like this? And I'll give

602
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: them credit. Shout out to Danny Kaylis, the creator the show.

603
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: He listened to it like he when came down the

604
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: ward robe, I was like, Man, ain't no young black

605
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: kid walking around wearing them ships on their feet? Like

606
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I was like, ya need James Mans kids. I would

607
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: be calling up to Nike because they don't want you

608
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: to have a little logo with all that. To have

609
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: logos on anything, I want to pay for it, right,

610
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: So they'd be like that yeah, and I'd be like like, yo, man,

611
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: who cares, like we gotta be cool? So like I

612
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: need I need the Overson's, I need them. Everybody else

613
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: has a shot because an episode, how about this, let's

614
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: do an episode. He needs to Iverson's. But it was

615
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: it ideas like that were tossing around and and being

616
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: that Iverson was such like a controversial figure in sports

617
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: at that time, they were like, Okay, you're gonna wear

618
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: the shoot. You just don't want to do a lot

619
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: of digging up on that. You know, we don't want

620
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: to go to hip hop because we were introducing vernacular

621
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: and slang. We were bringing all of that to the show,

622
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: but it was still a Disney show. So we just

623
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: had to find a balance. But thankfully, man, like you know,

624
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: we had producers shout out to Susanne de Pass who

625
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: was my former manager, Suvan de Past. Let me let

626
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: me give her credit right now, because she's another one

627
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't get enough credit. Some of y'all's favorite shows

628
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: from the Jackson's mini series, The Jackson's An American Dreams.

629
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: Smart guy. I'm sure there are a few a few

630
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: more after that. But Susan de Pasha is a brilliant

631
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: black woman who's been in this industry since the Motown days,

632
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: since the sixties. She was the one that discovered Michael

633
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: Jackson and Jackson five. We have those shows right now

634
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: that everybody can go back and look at because of her.

635
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: She was the one that kicked open the door for

636
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: Tea and Tamara and Todjing the home any family. She

637
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: was one that kicked over the door for me. He

638
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: sasan thank you. I'm just telling the people because they

639
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: need to know your name. There was a black woman

640
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: that blaze that trail. Because a black woman that blaze

641
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: that trail. Hell, that was after the Jackson mini Sortsson

642
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: Jackson was but again that was that was another situation

643
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: when we're talking about the example of music, where God

644
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: presented that opportunity because and this is just to just

645
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: bring up the thing about Lion King and I'll go

646
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: back to the Jackson's. How I got that was I

647
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: was shooting the scene, um, the live scene and Who's

648
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: loving you? And that particular day, we had already pre

649
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: recorded it and all I had to do was just

650
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: sing with the track. But for some of my reason

651
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: that day, sound was down and I had to sing

652
00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: that ship live like all day long. So man was like,

653
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: maybe after like the fourth set up shot, I'm kind

654
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: of exhausted vocally, but I'm like really warmed up. So

655
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm belting and shipped out and We're on stage and

656
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 1: the lights are shine in our way, so we don't

657
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: see who's out in the audience. We just kind of

658
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: see the cameras on the dolly, but we don't see

659
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: like who's out there out there. So we get through

660
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: with the with the day, we get through with that scene,

661
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: we're moving on me. My mom was walking back to

662
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: the trailer. She was like, Yo, you know who just

663
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: came up to me and asked me about you. I

664
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: was like, oho, Ma, She's like Ellie John. Ellie John

665
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: was just here. He's saying he's doing some kind of

666
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: movie with Disney. He is saying that you'd be perfect

667
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: for it. I'm like Elton John and Bennie and the Jets.

668
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm like that guy, And I'm sorry, sir Elton, but

669
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: I really don't John like that. Back then, I was

670
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: a kid, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean,

671
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate his work now. I love Elton John, especially

672
00:38:52,680 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: what he did for me, but you know was amazing.

673
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know, but she said, he wants you to

674
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: audition for this singing role in this new animated thing

675
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: that they're doing for Disney. Call the line came and

676
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: I was just like, Okay, cool, well let's do it.

677
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: So we I think two days later we wrapped The

678
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: Jackson's and then Disney had took over everything from that

679
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: point on, like our hotel and everything, and so I'll

680
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: never forget man. Like the day after we wrapped, I

681
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: went down the bird Bank at the Disney Recording studios.

682
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: That was another song I sang down maybe like three

683
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: or four times. They had camera said. That's what I

684
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: vividly remember. They had cameras up like this in the

685
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: vocal booth, and they were just telling me. They was like,

686
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: be as animated as you can, like like if you're

687
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: just singing it to the world, So any movement you

688
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: want to do, like even if you're not on the mic,

689
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: just move around because we're gonna put all of that

690
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: in the character. I'm like, huh, I don't even make

691
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: a he said, but I did it anyway. So there's

692
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: actually footage that I saw online where they showed me

693
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: performing the song in the studio that day, and that

694
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: was one of the cameras, and so a lot of

695
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: that stuff that you see with Simba in the animation,

696
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: with stuff that I was doing. You ain't muse what man.

697
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: I asked you to say, okay, character white, okayybody, none

698
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: of that, and you did. And the anivators it was three,

699
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: three or four of them, and they were in the

700
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: control room drawing that ship and I'm and when I

701
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: got they would have punched him, like yeah, Jay, we're

702
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: gonna steal your whole sauce on listen bro School. Because

703
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: when I saw what was going on, and then I

704
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: got really excited. And this is a true story. I've

705
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: got sang the song. The producers were looking at each

706
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: other and they were like whispering, teach other like nap.

707
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: So I'm looking They're like, hey, so would you be

708
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: able to stay in Los Angeles for a little bit longer? Yeah?

709
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, sure, because I really didn't want

710
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: to go home. I'm just gonna go back to school.

711
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, sure, you know,

712
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: I'll stick around. They were like, well, the reason why

713
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: we want you to stick around because we think we

714
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: may want you to do the voice of this character,

715
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: like you're perfect for Simba. So I'm like, oh, ship,

716
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: like that sounds kind of big, Like okay, man. Like

717
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes later, Um Business Affairs from Disney At called

718
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: back and they just closed their deal with Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

719
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: So the deal have been finalizing clothes. But if if

720
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: they would have waited, if this agent would have waited

721
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: another two hours to close that deal, I would have

722
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: had that role. But it wasn't your voice. See yeah,

723
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: I've met Jonathan and hung out with him on a

724
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: couple of different occasions. Because Home Improvement their sound stage

725
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: or Disney was next to Smart Guy, so like the

726
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: voice of Symbol was right there. And then the singing voice, Yeah,

727
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: that's what happened. And then when that came out, you know,

728
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: people didn't know that it was a black hid behind

729
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: that voice. And I wasn't really tripping on it because

730
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: I knew that I was a part of it anyway,

731
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: and nobody could take that away. From me. So if

732
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: we knew black it is possible. But that just goes

733
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: to show you everything is supposed to happen when it's

734
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: supposed to happen, when God wants it to happen. Because

735
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: it was finally revealed who the voice the singing was

736
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: behind it, the singing voice behind it, I think it

737
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: was more impactful at that time, especially when the community

738
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: was made more aware of it, because this is the top,

739
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: this is a Black renaissance that we're in now, and

740
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: especially here in Atlanta, and you're seeing so many people

741
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: emerge or come to the forefront that you didn't know

742
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: or a part of these iconic projects, and it it just

743
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: seemed like it was kind of like a snowball effect,

744
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, of all this information coming out that our

745
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: people could learn and be aware. So I don't regret it, Like,

746
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, my whole journey in this industry, good bad

747
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: or ugly, man, the journey has just been absolutely incredible.

748
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, we still got a lot

749
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: more left to do, but man with God has taken

750
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: me thus far. Man, it's just been nothing short of amazing,

751
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: especially a kid coming from Chicago, like there's not too

752
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: many of us they get opportunities. You know what I mean?

753
00:43:53,200 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: Ship man, how you get into a T could? I

754
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: mean these we got? You got? You didn't do the

755
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: American dream Ship? Oh okay, hold on and then we're

756
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: going to a T and I hope they get it together.

757
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: Like Warner Brothers. They y'all need to stop playing. Let's

758
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: do an a t L two. Man, Sylvie, Hey, Dallas,

759
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: stop man, we gotta figure this out night in the game.

760
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, everywhere together? No, so man, we gotta

761
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: do a t L two. But anyway, the Jackson's mini series, Um,

762
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: how that came about real quick. My cousin Laney Stewart,

763
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: another successful music producer. Multiplatin music producer was being managed

764
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: by um Susanne the Pass at that time, and he

765
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: was working with like Aaron Hall and Seante Moore and

766
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: Keep Washington's real old school R and B. They were

767
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: all coming up to Chicago working in his studio. And

768
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: so one of Suzanne's representatives came up to Chicago go

769
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: from l A. And I was there at the studio

770
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: because that's when I first started songwriting. That's when me

771
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: and Tricky were like first training him as a producer,

772
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: me as a songwriter. And I was like eleven years old,

773
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: and Ruth Carson, that's her name. She would come to

774
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: the studio and every time she's seen me, she'd be like, yo,

775
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: who's that little guy? Like he's always singing, he's always dancing. Like,

776
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: because I don't know if y'all notice, but we're about

777
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: to do this bio pick about Michael Jackson and his family,

778
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 1: and he needs audition for that ship. Like I'm gonna

779
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: tell Susan that he needs the audition for that ship.

780
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, whatever, I'm out of all

781
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: the kids that could play Michael Jackson, they're gonna pick me.

782
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. What I'm saying. So I'm like, man, whatever,

783
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: she's just talking sure enough, Like I get a call

784
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: from my agent. I had a local agent at the time,

785
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Gettis in Chicago. Shout out to Elizabeth. She called

786
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: me and said, yo, um, the cast and director from

787
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: the Jackson's An American Dream wants you to audition and

788
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: blase blind. So come down here to the office. Is

789
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: when you still had to actually go to someone's office.

790
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: They put you on videotape. They have to FedEx to

791
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: tape out it was like a whole fund process, you

792
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I go to go audition

793
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: maybe about two weeks later, ABC and the producer's call

794
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: back and said they want to fly me out to

795
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: l A for um for producers callback go out to

796
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: l A and here's here's here's some other real ship.

797
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: The minute I was supposed to audition for the Jackson family,

798
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: because even when you got to l A, there was

799
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: a round of audition. There was like three rounds of

800
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: audition that you had to go through before you got

801
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: to audition for the actual Jackson family. So I had

802
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: to go through that gauntlet of just like stuff to

803
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: finally make it to audition in front of them. And

804
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: so when I finally got there, there was an assistant

805
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: casting director who I guess that day had just been

806
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: having a shitty day and she was just over it.

807
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: So she would just passing sides out two kids that

808
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: were left, and so she wasn't taken into consideration the

809
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: kids who have been hold who they were specifically auditioning for.

810
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: So she had handed me some sides for like Randy

811
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: or some ship, sorry Randy, and there's none, but it

812
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: was there was two faces I care to do. I'm

813
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: here to do, Michael, And so I'm saying that in

814
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm skinned skin So ship, no real ship

815
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: he's taking no, no no. I started Sandy Ship and

816
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: there was a kid that came out and I'm about

817
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: to go in. There was a kid that came out

818
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: and I guess he had a horrible audition and he

819
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: threw his sides and the garbage can next to me

820
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: and like this name with a mic side. So I

821
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: took him about a garbage can and I just started

822
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: reviewing them real quick, trying to get reacquainted with the dialogue.

823
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: And I just did like a quick jam crack courts

824
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: and then they called my name and I went in

825
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: and I said the lines and that was cool. But

826
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: then that's when they started asking me to sing, and

827
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: I was so like me and my mother ever heard

828
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: those routines so much, man, I could have did that

829
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: ship in my sleep. And it was just like and

830
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I knew I kind of had the

831
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: part sort of when I saw Mrs Jackson smiling at me,

832
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: and she looked over at the director and she was

833
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: like he's good, and so I was like, okay, cool,

834
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: but I didn't get the part that day. They put

835
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: me on the red eye, me and my mother back

836
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: to Chicago and he was back in Illinois and I'm

837
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: waited maybe about five months because Michael was on tour.

838
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: And then Michael had finally seen the tape and he

839
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: made the decision to hire me for the role. And

840
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: that's how I got shout out to Mike. So Mike

841
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: having having he had to make the final decision, all

842
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: three actors that played him, the young one, the middle

843
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: one which was me and my man Wilely Draper got

844
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: rest while he sould who was who was Atlanta native,

845
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: who was from here in Atlanta. Um he picked us

846
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: like we were the ones that Michael personally chose. And

847
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: so you know, we all we knew we had to

848
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: do was when we got on set, we had to

849
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: live up to his expectations because we were just on it.

850
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: Like man, if Michael see something, and it's like we

851
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: gotta be on our ship. And we worked hard. I

852
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 1: worked seven days a week on that ship willingly voluntarily.

853
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: Let me make this clear, we technically only worked five

854
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: days a week, but the cast we all would get

855
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: together on Saturday and Sunday and rehearse like every weekend,

856
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: no matter what, and I'm talking about five six hours

857
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: and straight dance rehearsal in front of a mirror in

858
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: the conference room at the hotel we were staying at

859
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: and Bumper Bumper. Robinson was the one who would orchestrated

860
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: shout out to Bumper, but he was like, yo, man,

861
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: we're about to be portraying to Jackson family, like this

862
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: is Black Royalty. We cannot funk this uping It's like,

863
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: we can look this up. So everybody like being on

864
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: your ship, vocalized every day having your ship together, and

865
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: when we were on point by the time that came out,

866
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: when we looked back on on the work that we did, oh,

867
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: it made sense. It made sense that man, thank you, man, man,

868
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all like real ship like you know that.

869
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: That means a lot to me because I've been in

870
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: this business a long time and I think you guys

871
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: know from being in the in the industry for the

872
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: amount of time that you all have been in you

873
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: all have vests as well. You can kind of get

874
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: a little jaded, man, because you go through so much ship.

875
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Leading up to whatever that

876
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: opportunity is that takes you into your next chapter of

877
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: life in your career. And so when you get the

878
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: opportunity to meet with your peers, to build with your

879
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: peers and they express to you how much they appreciate

880
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: your work and that they see you, that means a

881
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: lot to me, man, because well, he's working about your face.

882
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: But I would be thinking about y'all. I'll be thinking

883
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: about who's the next generation like coming up after What

884
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: kind of example are we setting? Like what are we saying?

885
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: Because I want I want kids to come up after

886
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: us knowing that they can do it. But like, man,

887
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: we got a real responsibility. So now to have this

888
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: opportunity to meet y'all, then to build with y'all, and

889
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: to see y'all exceeding past what we've done, because honestly,

890
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: looking at this whole situation over here, man, it's is

891
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: taking whatever groundwork and foundation that we laid as young

892
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: black performers. Man, y'all taking it ship to the next

893
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: level and have an ownership and what it is that

894
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: y'all doing. So like the cake is this this this platform?

895
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: We cherish you because we get to sit here, have

896
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: people that we're fans of like just to see did

897
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: you say that? It's like? But still we had to

898
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: watch y'all in order for us to know what the

899
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: blue print was like for us anyway, you see what

900
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And for us to be doing it for

901
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: the amount of time that we're doing it, and for

902
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: us to even have people like you to come on

903
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: is just here how we make you feel we'd really

904
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: be like you, but we had to keep out of the

905
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: the cold. But we nonded y'all some months because we

906
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: it allows us to engage with the people that inspired us,

907
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: and we get y'all kicking yeah. And I'm gonna say

908
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: this too, man, You one of the people that need

909
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: to be celebrated more. Man. I feel like a lot

910
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: of times, just in our community, a lot of times,

911
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: everything we celebrate is the negative and the worst of

912
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: the ship. They celebrate the fall off, they celebrate how

913
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: it nigga fell off. They want to know how to

914
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: what happened to the ship, But talk about the motherfucker's

915
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: they're still here, talk about the motherfucker here like it's

916
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: more the game from somebody who did good business and

917
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: did continually succeed and craft and then looking at the

918
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: tragedy and travesty shop. I appreciate that because there are

919
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: a lot of us man who have been able to

920
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: maintain careers without like you know what we discussed early,

921
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: we all human beings, law had our ship, you know

922
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But we've been really really blessing a

923
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: way where the mistakes that we've made, um that have

924
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: helped us grow as men. We've been able to do

925
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: that in private, like without you know, having social media

926
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: and you know TENZ and people like that on your back,

927
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: where you can make your mistakes as a human being

928
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: and growing evolved. So I was even blessed with that

929
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: as well, where you know, my mother created a certain

930
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: type of balance in my life where work was over

931
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and we'd be back on the plane,

932
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: I'll be right back in the neighborhood, like interacting with

933
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: my friends, going to school, going to the grocery store,

934
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: having a real life, and where I could I could

935
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: see what my neighbors were going through in their everyday lives,

936
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: whatever struggles that they may have had, and then that

937
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: would allow me to look back and go, man, I'm

938
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: really blessed. Man Like like man, I'm getting on the

939
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: fucking plane them all to go to a place that, man,

940
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: I never thought i'd go to to do make Believe

941
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: where they make fucking TV. And that ship will blow

942
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: your mind and it and it blew my mind. Man.

943
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: Such it's been such just a blessing. Man. I'm just grateful, man,

944
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: just grateful to God for everything, Grateful for the support

945
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: from the community. I can't stress that enough. It's like

946
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: what you said, we live in a time where you know,

947
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: people kind of find joy in your pain or the

948
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: struggles that you go through. But I've just been really

949
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: really blessed where with our community in particular, it's all

950
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: been about celebrating and acknowledging the work that I've done

951
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: and supporting me and like letting me know on the

952
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: street and let me know on social media, and may

953
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: keep doing your things, you know what I'm saying, Like

954
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: black men coming up to me, like especially with the shot,

955
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: like with the show on and all of that, with

956
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: the character and I'm portraying like I know a lot

957
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: of guys like that back home whose stories never get

958
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: told like that. So I'm having guys come up to

959
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: me and be like, hey, Joe, and I appreciate you

960
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: man like, because that's how that ship that he is.

961
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying it for you to for

962
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: you to tell the real story like that and presenting

963
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: in a real way. You're not glorifying it. You're not

964
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: glamorizing it, like you're telling it what it is to

965
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 1: hear that ship from other black men like that. There's

966
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: a lot we don't talk. We don't don't talk. We

967
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: don't And even if the nigga like you ain't gonna yeah,

968
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: let me get the picture, like you're a fan. It's

969
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: okay if you really think it's out there your public something.

970
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: But even even all that, it's history. Just like you said,

971
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: it's what's her name was Susan the past put the

972
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: things in place and and we don't know that, you

973
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So it's like, so when you

974
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: hear Hunter and you're like, Okay, she's important. Yeah, she's

975
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: quant of history. Like it's so many iconic and icons

976
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: out the pioneers who we don't know about. But and

977
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: let me tell you, they know y'all though, because the

978
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: one thing about those pioneers and people like Susan in

979
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: the past who are trail Blazers. They always keep their

980
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: air to the street. They always checking to see what

981
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: the youth is talking about, what it's relevant in the culture.

982
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: It may seem like they distant and that day over

983
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: and just Hollywood, but no, they because they're the ones

984
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: that find that talent and go. Man, they need to

985
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: be on the bigger platform, you know what I'm saying.

986
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: So now I'm just and I want you all to

987
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: know that. And y'all know this already, but man, please

988
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: know that the work that you're doing in the platform

989
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: that you're providing for guys like myself, for the O

990
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: G s like Snoop Man, we appreciate this man because

991
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: we don't get a lot of opportunities to speak to

992
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: our community directly like that and give them the real

993
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and for black men and

994
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: say clebrate one another the way that y'all do us

995
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: like man. The world needs to see that. So that's

996
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: why y'all winning, because you'll some real niggas with that ship.

997
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: But you heard sound different different Heldo. We gotta get

998
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: to a T L please, because I got to get

999
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: the a T He got his case on the back

1000
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: to get with big family man none other than Jason.

1001
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: We first dig over there, get done with j J.

1002
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Know how that ship that's why here too we do yeah,

1003
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: all about it said, oh that the same thing, j J. Harold.

1004
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: And then in Atlanta, you're gonna be able to get

1005
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: at least two restaurants from wherever you're from. Yeah we

1006
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: got we got Harrolds. Yeah we gotta yeah, Yeah, they'll

1007
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: get enough sauce. Don't want to marry. Yeah, the one

1008
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: on our avenue, they got their rational after sault. Look

1009
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: we get talking about they're trying to do the thing

1010
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: in Chicago. They put sauce on your bags from the house.

1011
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: Go with everything, be thinning the mother you have the

1012
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: opening ship. You could just push it out. Oh yeah,

1013
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: Oh talking about at because I'm gonna let y'all gonna

1014
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: let us. Yeah, I gotta kiss out because this is

1015
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: important Atlanta history. Were Atlanta somewhere listen, shout out to

1016
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: Dallas Austin. Let me tell of y'all something about Dallas

1017
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: Austin For those of y'all who may not know, Dallas

1018
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: Austin is a mega super producer who has been producing

1019
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: some of the biggest records in the music industry since

1020
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: the late eighties going into the nineties. He discovered Monica

1021
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: another Boys to Men. He was responsible for that. There

1022
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: was a whole movement. Listen the face records all at

1023
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: the foundation of Atlanta. He's one of the founding fathers.

1024
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: He's there with Jermaine, He's there with organized noise, He's

1025
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: there with camp uh l a baby face. Who else?

1026
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the list goes on and on off. But

1027
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: he's one of the founding fathers. The reason why y'all

1028
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: have movies like Drumline and A t L Is because

1029
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: of Dallas Austen, Yes, sir, He's castle and the ghost

1030
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: was in there. Ye, Dallas got some crazy start man.

1031
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: You both y'all, y'all, y'all run close with me. Dallas

1032
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: is even crazy the whole industry. You didn't probably see

1033
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: the weirdest ship, that's true. But Dallas founded a city.

1034
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: He did. He founded an entertainment capital. Like we all

1035
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: came down here, cast them up north and like from

1036
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: the West coast in l A. We all came down

1037
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: here because he was trying to work with Dallas and

1038
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: Jermaine and organize nothing. That's why I came down here.

1039
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: I was trying to work with them and like learn

1040
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: what this was. And I knew that there was a

1041
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: component to this town where it could be a film

1042
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: and TV town, But those were the guys. I've never

1043
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: seen that before. I've never seen niggas pulling up like

1044
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: young niggas pulling up in Ferraris and ship and you're

1045
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: go into their houses and they're sitting on acres and

1046
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: where they sucking houses all the way back there, Like

1047
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: I'd never seen that before. And so Atlanta open my

1048
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: eyes to that, and Dallas was like one of the

1049
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: first people to do that and like to welcome me

1050
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: and my family to this city. So when a t

1051
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: L came up, Dallas and I had already done Drumline together.

1052
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: We already did Drumline, so we had had some success

1053
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: on the film side. But at L was originally titled

1054
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: jelly Bean, and it was gonna be based on the

1055
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: story of Dallas, like discovering till c and all of that,

1056
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: because jelly Bean was like where all of those groups,

1057
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: the outcast and all that, that's where they wouldn't hung

1058
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: out when they were kids, you know what I'm saying.

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01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: So we were trying to retell that story. It evolved

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: over time, and especially with the studio's involvement, the script adjusted.

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01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: But dallas And hit me one day and he's like,

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01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: hey man, you know I'm doing another movie down here,

1063
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: Like you're funking with me because you ain't auditioned for it.

1064
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I didn't even know what was

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01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: going on. And that's when I got rid of my

1066
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: agent that I was with, because Up dropped the ball.

1067
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: So I called him. I was like, hey man, they're

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01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: shooting another movie down here in Atlanta, a big budget

1069
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: film called Jelly Bean Man, and like TIMPs supposed to

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01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: being in all these different people, I was like, how

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01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: are they gonna shoot a movie down here like that?

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01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: And I'm not in it? And so they found a

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01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: way for me the auditions, and I came in at

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01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: the tail end. They hadn't cast Teddy yet, they hadn't

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01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 1: cast Esquire or Teddy yet, so auditioned for Esquire wasn't

1076
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: really convincing with that one um. But Teddy, it was like,

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01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean, because I know, I know that I liked

1078
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 1: to kick it with guys like that at five nine

1079
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: and one twelve and ship I know people, so you know,

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01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. So when I auditioned

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01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: for that role, everything just rode into place and it

1082
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: just made sense. And man, we had a ball uh

1083
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: two months, but every day it was a video shoot. Man,

1084
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: it was what I mean, we had so much fun.

1085
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: Man to this day, Like I may not speak the

1086
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: Tip every day, I may not see Lauren every day,

1087
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: I may not see Jackie, but man, let us run

1088
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: and teach other on the streets somewhere and just some

1089
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: random ship. Man, we're together for the rest of the night.

1090
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: Like we all became a real family on that show,

1091
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: and we just enjoyed. We genuinely enjoyed each other's company.

1092
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: Tip was gracious because you know, I've been living in

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01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: Atlanta for a long time, but there were still some

1094
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: things I didn't know about it. And then the rest

1095
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: of them, they were all out from California. Ship, so

1096
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: they're thinking, after we get through rehearsing that skatetown. He

1097
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: get everybody in the car. We would like go through

1098
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 1: the Swats, we go through Bankheads. He would like, should

1099
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: we go down Simpson Roll, then we go to like Buckhead.

1100
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: He would take us around the city so we could

1101
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: get a feel with the like what's going on with

1102
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: the people in the culture and the energy, and just

1103
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: him being so gracious. Big Boy, Like big Boy would

1104
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: always set up where he'd had the massus come. If

1105
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: we had like a hard dawn set and we've been

1106
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: skating all day, he would have like his private massuits

1107
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: come and like give everybody back rubs and you can

1108
01:03:52,600 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: get your nails done, and it was just play ship.

1109
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,959
Speaker 1: We had a ball. Shout out to Chris Robinson, shout

1110
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: out to Will Smith who was one of our executive

1111
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: producing shots. T Bos Smith one of this afternoon he

1112
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: was one of the EPs and Tebos right, yeah, yeah,

1113
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: over James Lasseter, those guys. Charlie Mack was down here.

1114
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: Charlie see Jock would be skating with us. That were

1115
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: her let me tripping off down she got to she

1116
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: got a story to town. Y gotta come to I

1117
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: feel like you still the jelly Bean movie still need

1118
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: to be made Fat Fat because said, yeah, that was

1119
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: my generation. Now you gotta understand when y'all made it.

1120
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: Look look, I'm i gotta take it back. When they

1121
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: said cast skate, I grew up on case. I grew

1122
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: up in the cast case scary. That's my ships. I

1123
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: was the first young skateing crew cast Scad ever had.

1124
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: We don't want a couple of tissues. I don't care

1125
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: what nobody said. That's my ship, you understand, man. I

1126
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: remember when the first open up Nigga dust used to

1127
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: be coming down in our eyes. Skate You feel what

1128
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We got ship straight in that bitch. So

1129
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: when y'all came down, they were like, it's yeah, they're

1130
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: about to shoot a movie in the beach. Because we

1131
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: thought it was just our ship. This is a hangout,

1132
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: and we were like, they're not about to make a

1133
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: movie about skaters. They like nigga. They finished its pitched

1134
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: down for about two and a half months, and we

1135
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: got nowhere to go, So we was mad about not

1136
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: having nowhere to go, But we were like, we can't

1137
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: wait to see the movie because we want to see

1138
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: what type of ship they're gonna portray about. At La Nigga,

1139
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: y'all had skate Creus who I used to skate week

1140
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: in the movie, all them, Nigga Mario, the nigga who

1141
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: took took Laura from in the in the house party. Yeah,

1142
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: I know that. Okay, you see what I'm saying he

1143
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: was in the top of man man. But it was

1144
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: like when this ship came out, bro, and I know

1145
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: was so we was excited and we appreciate the movie.

1146
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: So because that's how ship. That's like the whole world

1147
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: need to know about a t L too. They got

1148
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: damn movie and a lot of people in the movie

1149
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: theater resonated with you more sol because you was Eddy.

1150
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: You didn't who did? And it goes at the time

1151
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: and everybody knew, I don't know what. We don't go

1152
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: to edit. Ain't gonna make a goals to be nigger man.

1153
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: That's what we say. You won't know what we said.

1154
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: The rest of this video, Just in case you wonder

1155
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: what we're doing, we are now showing you just how

1156
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: important having the eighty five South Show append is because

1157
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: you was watching this show thinking, oh, they did finally

1158
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: put the ship back on you too. They was listening.

1159
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: We weren't We weren't that The rest of this listen.

1160
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: The rest of the audio is on half yeah, yeah,

1161
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: all right. Now you gotta know what we're saying. You

1162
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: gotta go get the apps show app. It's available on Amazon, Biastick,

1163
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: Apple TV, wherever you get yourself available directly where they

1164
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,479
Speaker 1: sell apps, or they don't sell apps on Apple TV?

1165
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: Why with us? To Apple TV? It is put on

1166
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: real coup don't say fun nobody, No, I say put it.

1167
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: Oh we do full of real couse. Yeah, so subscribe

1168
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: to the app. It's only eight ninety nine a month

1169
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: or eighty five dollars a year, so you get a

1170
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: whole year for eighty five dollars. Did you know that

1171
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: it's eight fifty and then you gotta pay tax. Yeah,

1172
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: so you know, you know, we get them all type

1173
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: of content. You know what, We're not even gonna tell

1174
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: them who you got your glasses from until they get

1175
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: on happen. I mean, hey, you gotta watch the app.

1176
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: The app is available. All of these people that say

1177
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: we should keep putting this on YouTube for free, what

1178
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: about the years of freeness that we've already provided upon you.

1179
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: We gave this away for free for years. Let's moved

1180
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: together and this is the show, and put it on

1181
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: another network and you're buying their subscription. You don't ask

1182
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: them why you're buying their ship, So don't ask us.

1183
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: We're putting it on the app. Who's over the app?

1184
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 1: Nobody knows get Yeah, we saw what you said in

1185
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: the comments. We saw it the good, the bad, and

1186
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: the ugly. So you know what we're folding under this pressure.

1187
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: We hear you, We hear you. We'll just get the

1188
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: funk on that you all way just for an hour though.

1189
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: That's all you get is out, so don't you can't

1190
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: complain with the rest of it. Something I'll see we

1191
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: got with a whole bunch of ads in between, like, hey,

1192
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: how you doing waste motherfucking yeah, let's just uh go

1193
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: ahead and make sure Channel eighty five dot com. I

1194
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: want to make sure I read what they wrote. They

1195
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: wrote some ship out for us. These niggers don't know

1196
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: how to spell or type proper sentences, but they try

1197
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: it to get us to get y'all to buy the app.

1198
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: What you think we want to read this ship man

1199
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: so we can talk that ship man ladies. Don't you like?

1200
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: That's right on the app uncensored, unfiltered and edit it.

1201
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,440
Speaker 1: Can you believe that I'm talking about what actual production

1202
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: and it jump cuts clips all taxes, types of like

1203
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: exclusive ship that they don't even know that we they

1204
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: don't even know that we got a show where we'll

1205
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: be cooking like anxiety foods and ship that's on the app. Yep,

1206
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: Chico got a head right and clan did he toach?

1207
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: Nobody passed it because that's why the ship looked like this.

1208
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: We're working on it and you can see it on

1209
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: the app. They didn't didn't even tell them about the

1210
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: text courts that we had uploaded on that. They don't

1211
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: even know that. We got a whole show about Long

1212
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: Street on the app, right, and we got the alts

1213
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: in the end until the color purple up there. Oh man, Yeah,

1214
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: we got the raw edition all the hood cook all right,

1215
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: so on the app. So if you want to see

1216
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: some ship that you know they're trying to have from that,

1217
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the dot com. Bok Dad, you got a

1218
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: hour for free. We gave you what you wanted. Now

1219
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 1: give us some subscriptions to the app. Eighty five dollars

1220
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: a year Chandway five dot com eighty five South show.

1221
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: Get that this is what they don't know. Really three

1222
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: dollars but adjusted for inflation is a done. Get the app, man,

1223
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: stop bushing. Were out of here, man, We're not about

1224
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: to keep working all this time for working for we are.

1225
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: Maybe we are only well your way too, fly oh,