WEBVTT - Wednesday's Child w/ Jessica Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 1>someone else in our life has merch.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, I'm doing a drop. She's dropping. It's a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>You only have like a few weeks to buy, so

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<v Speaker 2>the drop is there. Hit up my instagram at glitter Cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have a clear fanny pack for concerts, air fresheners,

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<v Speaker 2>t shirts, sliders, cute stuff that says glitter Cheese and

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<v Speaker 3>So buy my merch.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I'm doing stand up in DC and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the dates that were running around town. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say my August to December will be on

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<v Speaker 2>the road most road, which is thrilling. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>get my diamond status, so.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll show some of the glitter Cheese merch on

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<v Speaker 1>our Instagram, but obviously Lisa's Instagram is going to have it,

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<v Speaker 1>So follow glitter Cheese on ig for all of her

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<v Speaker 1>merch and stand up stuff. And then what else is

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Oh, well, we're late, We're in the time machine.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're also late even in the time machine because

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<v Speaker 1>big news. We did post this on our Instagram the

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<v Speaker 1>day that it broke. But they caught the Gilg Beach Killer.

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<v Speaker 1>If you listened to our episode Daydream Believer where we

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk to the very cool Dallas Roberts, you

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<v Speaker 1>will recall that I covered the Long Island serial killer

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<v Speaker 1>aka the Gilgo Beach Killer.

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<v Speaker 3>They fucking found the sky. It's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They found some of his wife's hair in duct tape

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<v Speaker 1>on the body. And this man is like a, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it an architect or something. He's just like

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<v Speaker 1>a man that lives on Long Island with a family

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<v Speaker 1>and a wife who has just been straight up killing

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<v Speaker 1>sex workers and dumping them in Long Island. It's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like, I'm glad he was fucking caught. Yeah, Mattaiqua

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<v Speaker 1>Park is where this guy lived.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if they would have caught him sooner

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<v Speaker 2>if it wasn't sex workers, or if they just really

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<v Speaker 2>needed this break in the hair the hair was that

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<v Speaker 2>was there more evidence?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been like poking around. The hair's the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard of. I've been like looking at a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But like a lot of the current articles

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<v Speaker 1>about how his wife is so sad and her kids

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<v Speaker 1>are upset because obviously their dad is a serial killer,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's you know, that's a lot. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>CNN has an article that says a flood of evidence

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<v Speaker 1>has come in since the suspect arrests. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>now that he's been arrested, I bet they're they can.

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<v Speaker 3>They can prove.

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<v Speaker 1>They said they think they can prove three murders, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know they're trying to get a fourth one TechEd

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<v Speaker 1>on there too. I think we covered one of them

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<v Speaker 1>where they're saying he didn't do that, and like that

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<v Speaker 1>woman's family is like, I think he did do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think it might be the woman that was

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<v Speaker 1>found with her kid as well. I think they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that one maybe not connected, but you know, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for this to go to trial and

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<v Speaker 1>this guy to fucking get you know, get what's coming

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<v Speaker 1>to him. But it's just crazy that they found him

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<v Speaker 1>after all these years. I mean, they found the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>Golden State killer after decades, So you cannot get away

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<v Speaker 1>with this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone is going to find you with your DNA or

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<v Speaker 3>your hair or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared and I talked about this on stage and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the chances of your hair being on me?

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<v Speaker 1>I go, very good. My hair is all over our house.

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<v Speaker 1>It is constantly like girl's hair. At least mine is

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<v Speaker 1>fucking fully in making dust bunnies in my house always.

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<v Speaker 3>So everywhere I go, my hair is dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>My little single use eye drops are there is a trail,

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<v Speaker 2>and there will be bobby pins.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know where Lisa has been because of those

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<v Speaker 1>single use eye drops.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I always like check them to see if there's anything

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<v Speaker 1>left in them. I'm like, oh, this is still a

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<v Speaker 1>full one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>And then from Gilgo Beach Killer, we have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the other big news that time Machine vibes, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is the Barbie movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yep, we both saw it. We did both see it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I am not at the posts I

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<v Speaker 2>were seeing on social media. I do not I'm not there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not bawling at the end. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Feminist a friend of ours that we both have some

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty with. I just saw her on Sunday and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like the end, I mean the end. I was

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<v Speaker 1>bawling at the end, and I was like, oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>montage of women living their lives, that was maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the whole time I was watching it, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe this is getting me. And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it was getting you either. Although I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I do admit that I teared up a couple times

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<v Speaker 1>during the movie. It wasn't during that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been saying I liked a lot of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't like a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of it I thought to like,

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<v Speaker 3>but there was a lot of it but I didn't like.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think we're all in a marketing haze, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>where we were just anticipating for so long and everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's incredible. So you're there and you're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>tricked in a way of like this was everything. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I ask anyone write us in what was feminist

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<v Speaker 2>about that movie? It was supposed to be about a

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<v Speaker 2>movie about Barbie. It was a movie about Ken and

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<v Speaker 2>the patriarchy. Ken had the songs, Ken's had the jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would Ken go? Why wasn't it a movie about

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<v Speaker 2>Barbie's and women and girls?

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<v Speaker 3>It was about men. That movie was about men.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, I, why would the president Barbie have

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<v Speaker 2>less lines? And oh jokes then all these and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a very white movie outside of Isaa, who had

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a few lines. It's just like very white, vetero,

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<v Speaker 2>very heteronormative. I don't know what the conservatives are upset about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very pink, very blue. There's no intermixing to leave

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<v Speaker 2>a matriarchal, amazing society and make it better, or bring

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<v Speaker 2>America Ferrera and all the girls to barbieland instead she

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<v Speaker 2>gives it all up to go to the guynecologist in

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<v Speaker 2>the real world, not to change it, like to live

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<v Speaker 2>in a place where no one respects her or likes her.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I liked was when they first got to the

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<v Speaker 2>human world. Like that to me was fun because it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, and Karen and I talked about this a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>where it was like, she doesn't show, she tells, and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole point of storytelling is you show, not tell.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like she had heavy handed monologues and messaging,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet the plot abandoned all of that and it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't show anything. It was just like, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just monologues it was weird. And then the part that

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<v Speaker 2>in the theater itself without like being influenced by like

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<v Speaker 2>different friends, I was talking to and communicating with people

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<v Speaker 2>like in the theater. What bothered me was when Barbie

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<v Speaker 2>apologized to Ken, when Ken's like, well, now you know

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<v Speaker 2>how it feels, and it's like, are we saying that

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<v Speaker 2>the Barbies and the Kens did equal damage to Barbie

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<v Speaker 2>land I'm sorry. I think the Barbies didn't disrespect Ken

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<v Speaker 2>like all the conservatives being like and what they did

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<v Speaker 2>to men. I go, what the men got to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the beach, hang out, chill. It's just like women

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<v Speaker 2>didn't circle their lives around romantic love or the Ken's.

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<v Speaker 2>And also what was brought to my attention is we

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<v Speaker 2>don't play with Ken's. Did you play with a Ken when.

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<v Speaker 3>You were a kid?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm, that's why the Kens don't have anything, because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to play with Ken.

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<v Speaker 3>But also the try to make Ken happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The lives that Ken's had in the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie are the lives that men think women should be

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<v Speaker 1>happy to have. You should be happy to sit around

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<v Speaker 1>and look pretty and do beach and like, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, actually I think they expect more from women.

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<v Speaker 1>But like that that it wasn't that bad what they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing to the Kens.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing was bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's if the whole thing is how girls play with

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<v Speaker 2>the dolls is what makes the word Barbie land move.

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<v Speaker 3>Young girls are not playing with kens.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked more, like you said them in the real world,

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie and in the real world, or Barbie in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple more Barbies in the real world would have been fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked Barbie in the real world. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 3>it needed to be Ken.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't need to think Ken needed to have the

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<v Speaker 1>big epiphany about what it's like. I mean, like we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this before, but like it just all felt

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<v Speaker 1>very ten years ago, Like the discourse was like very

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago. Again, I do think it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a huge thing for her to make this massive, corporate

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<v Speaker 1>juggernaut movie based on a current, beloved, known property but

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<v Speaker 1>also a controversial property which all lot of people think.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie didn't let Barbie off the hook like at

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<v Speaker 1>all for you know, being an unrealistic female beauty ideal

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of girls looked to for decades and decades.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just never was affected by Barbie in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I just liked playing with dolls, like I don't do

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<v Speaker 2>boys think they have to look like Batman, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand why. Like as kids playing with the Barbies,

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<v Speaker 2>there was never the dolls did not affect my self esteem.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's the messaging around it. It was like grown

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<v Speaker 2>ups telling us it's bad. But like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>a Barbie in itself is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that people might argue that, like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that it was affecting you, like subconsciously, it's

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind, like oh, you want to be like

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<v Speaker 1>tall with a thin waist and like wear cool clothes

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<v Speaker 1>and like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I also had tons of other dolls, and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't look at any of my other dolls going well,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta look like this witch, like.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know me.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I had stuffed animals. I had popples. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a stuffed bunny that smells like jellybee id like.

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<v Speaker 5>Too, I love my popple.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, No, I had a glowworm. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, Like I never really felt. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also think my window with Barbie's was very short too.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not like obsessed. I think I had a

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<v Speaker 1>few and we moved, and I like don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>had them anymore, Like they were not a huge part

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<v Speaker 1>of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's a million pieces of feminist critique out

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<v Speaker 1>there about how Barbie, you know, was horrible, But what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is this movie it's like you're you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a marketing haze. Like we have been like

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted by Barbie so many corporate tie ins, so many

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<v Speaker 1>we love Barbie, Like that's the thing, Like we get

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<v Speaker 1>to still like Barbie's exists outside of this one movie

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But Julia brought this point up since we've talked,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But this whole thing of like.

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<v Speaker 2>The side with Margot Robbie where they were like and

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<v Speaker 2>it's weird that we booked Margot Robbie to be having

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<v Speaker 2>this speech about not feeling good about her so or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like the people that care the most are

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<v Speaker 2>people like Margot Robbie. Her whole career and everything is bill.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's very talented. I would say the acting

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<v Speaker 2>this movie is great, but it's like those are the

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<v Speaker 2>people that are worried the most. And I know you

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<v Speaker 2>really liked this moment, But like if someone that looks

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<v Speaker 2>like Margot Robbie turned to you and you were an

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<v Speaker 2>old woman and went you're beautiful, would you not like

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<v Speaker 2>flip her off?

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<v Speaker 3>But I think she did. That's why I like the

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<v Speaker 3>moment she goes, I know it, the woman goes. I

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<v Speaker 3>know she wasn't like, wow, Barbie, this beautiful girl told

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<v Speaker 3>me I'm beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she wasn't like flabber like, she wasn't thrown at all.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, yes, of course, I'm fucking beautiful. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I liked about the woman, like the woman's compet.

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<v Speaker 3>The woman's school. But yeah, I just thought that.

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<v Speaker 2>But back to like the Ken thing, Like when the

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<v Speaker 2>Kens had Barbie Land, they put them in made outfits,

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<v Speaker 2>took their jobs, took their houses, started a war, tried

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<v Speaker 2>to take away the constitution, made them beer winches, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Barbies had to apologize to the Kens because the

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<v Speaker 2>Ken's had to do beach because girls don't play with Kens.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to play with Kens.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know all the Ken enough merchants selling, but

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<v Speaker 2>like no one's gonna start buying Ken's nobody wants a Ken.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I don't understand why the movie had to

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<v Speaker 2>be Barbie and he's just kn' fuck Ken. Why can't

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<v Speaker 2>Skipper talk? Where the fuck is Skipper?

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<v Speaker 3>Where's that bit?

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<v Speaker 1>The point I agreed on and I agree on the

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<v Speaker 1>most is like it would have been cool if it

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<v Speaker 1>was like just a movie for girl, like just a

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<v Speaker 1>girl movie, like just a movie about a girl, toy

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<v Speaker 1>four girl like four women Like that's.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I liked what you said where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>we can show these themes like if Barbie's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>talk and men at Mattel keep interrupting her, Like there's

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<v Speaker 2>ways to show these things without heavy handed message.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like abandon in the plot.

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<v Speaker 1>The America Ferrera like long speech like killed me, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that was so lame to me, And I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's ways we can show this instead of telling it,

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<v Speaker 1>like have Barbie in the real world a little bit longer,

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<v Speaker 1>like have her really I don't understand, like here men

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<v Speaker 1>don't listen to me when I talk, or I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand here like Ken and I both wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>the same job and I'm getting paidles.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. There's all these like this is brainstorming.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm obviously not a writer for this movie. No, like

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<v Speaker 3>it would be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And just now thinking and it's like, if the patriarchy's

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<v Speaker 2>so good, why didn't the Kens go to the real world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because they would actually have to get jobs. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it, and they were not qualified to do anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't do anything there. So it just the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is we're allowed to have bad I'm gonna see it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna probably watch it on a plane. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>keep watching it. I'm sure it's gonna be in my repertoire,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I watch movies that are worse than Barbie.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just don't think it's that good.

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<v Speaker 2>But where I hope there's a Barbie two and three

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<v Speaker 2>and women get to just direct stuff, and hopefully it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just one woman at a time. I really hope

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<v Speaker 2>it's like Barbie two, just about the barbiees, Like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>just make it about the Barbie because now it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you've already sold it, it's already made agajillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Like let's just it's proof of concept.

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<v Speaker 1>Now make the second one a truly like feminist movie,

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<v Speaker 1>because and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy Ina collogists like that to me is the dumb

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<v Speaker 2>Like the guino isn't fun. So what you're saying is

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<v Speaker 2>she goes to the real world and the best, coolest

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<v Speaker 2>first thing she could do as a woman is go

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<v Speaker 2>to a medical professional.

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<v Speaker 1>And like what you said that a woman with a

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<v Speaker 1>vagina that goes to the gynocologist is like the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a woman, which is like that's you know, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of That's what I mean, Like the right

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<v Speaker 2>being so mad about it, it's like it's truly making

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<v Speaker 2>ken sympathetic. That's saying that a matriarchal society is as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as a patriarchy, which in Barbieland was proven not true.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Barbie Stilet's apologize it's pink and blue, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why the conservatives are so mad, yeah, or.

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<v Speaker 3>Like articles about people walking out after ten minutes with

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<v Speaker 3>their kids because it was like inappropriate. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 3>do not know why can't Yeah, but our friend doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to take her daughter, and I really liked what

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<v Speaker 3>she said. No she doesn't want to no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>she said she would take her daughter to the first

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<v Speaker 3>half and not the second half. Yeah, but I know

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<v Speaker 3>you should. That's why I don't tell them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So like I don't get like why the first

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes or fifteen minutes offensive to anyone, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's people who just like think women should

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<v Speaker 2>be moms and that's that like maybe the baby dolls

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<v Speaker 2>being crushed.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh maybe, yeah, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Our friend was basically like, yeah, my daughter is seven,

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<v Speaker 1>she loves Barbie.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I want her to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like let her see the first half, but

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<v Speaker 1>not the second half where like the patriarchy takes over

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<v Speaker 1>and a woman does a monologue about all the ways

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<v Speaker 1>that it's terrible to be a woman and that like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be thin all the time. And even

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<v Speaker 1>though that's like such a retrograde like thing, like we.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't, I don't know. It's like like.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, like I said, Sam joke, you have Lizzo

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<v Speaker 1>doing a fucking song and you have a plus sized

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie and then you're saying, oh, all women want to

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<v Speaker 1>be thin, Like it's crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, stop telling girls they could do anything

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<v Speaker 2>they put their minds to. It never occurred to them

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<v Speaker 2>that they couldn't, you know, Like that's the silvermant thing

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like that's that's the thing with the Barbie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I don't think young girls even think that.

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<v Speaker 2>All most kids think their moms are the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>people in the world. Yeah, you know, like daughters like

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<v Speaker 2>all like little kids, you know, we're pushing the thing

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<v Speaker 2>on them, Like, I just don't. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>real the Barbie like affected kid, but I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Disney movies affect kids, it all, does I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I take it back. I have to think about that

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<v Speaker 2>point more. But it's just like I never was like

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<v Speaker 2>I need to be this Barbie like I liked Missus

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<v Speaker 2>Potts like that's yuah.

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<v Speaker 3>Turn me into a teapot bitch, like about that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, you can we're out there talking about Barbie in

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<v Speaker 1>other places, so if you want longer versions of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, we gotta get our podcast started for today,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's go back.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Dm us like, yeah, but it's just like, also, the

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<v Speaker 2>person that cried at the end of the group that

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<v Speaker 2>I was with was someone where I'm like, you're so annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>So then to me, anyone that was like crying I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a fucking idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did cry a couple of times, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was like random parts like and some parts like hit

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<v Speaker 1>me as a mom or whatever, like you know, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so And shout out to Kate McKinnon. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>she was good. She was so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh a lot all the acting I thought was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they'd given some people bigger parts, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Israyah. Wanted to see more from like totally, but

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the acting that we saw was good. And

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Gosling is very funny in it. He did a

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<v Speaker 1>great job with like what he was given. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't like what he was given. No, it's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>But why can't Barbie be funny?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Why can't the Barbies have a song? It's like

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<v Speaker 3>it truly was.

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<v Speaker 2>Centered around men. Men had more lines than most of

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<v Speaker 2>the Barbies. Midge was silent.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, the pregnant woman, Oh my god, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Alan, even Alan is this other hero and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone's like Alan and Ken. No one's even talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the Barbiesugh. Yeah, it's just upsetting. But I love Barbie.

0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.920
<v Speaker 2>And then it's like the Polly Pocket movie is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be Dunham and it's like, I love girls so much,

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<v Speaker 2>but the ending actually is similar to me than this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a disappointment and a betrayal to everything you were,

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<v Speaker 2>like I wanted it to be, but like, can we

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<v Speaker 2>have other people? It's just like it's frustrating. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's frustrating. It's just like one white woman at a time,

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<v Speaker 2>it was so white.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the way. And people keep saying and I

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<v Speaker 3>keep seeing people.

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<v Speaker 1>Say like I love the Barbie, would be great message

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, even before they critique other things, like I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a male comic that we both know, go fun movie,

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<v Speaker 1>great message, but the jokes were hack blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't like the jokes, and I was like, whatever, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the matter? I want people to explain the message. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the message was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>The messages become a ghost and be trapped in the

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<v Speaker 2>Barbie factory.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the message.

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<v Speaker 2>Sacrifice everything you are as a woman and a person

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<v Speaker 2>to go be a ghost in a factory.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to the guano bitch. That was the end of Barbie.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry we didn't give a spoiler alert before this. If

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen Barbie, apologies, But let's get started. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got a great pod for you guys today, don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Wednesday's Child very on trend, you know with

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday who ended up being so annoying?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you find or no, wait, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like the actress who plays Wednesday and Wednesday just became insufferable.

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<v Speaker 2>I know she's a child or whatever, but like she's

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty, I mean like she's insult sufferable, Like she

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<v Speaker 2>is so annoying to listen, Like you didn't feel that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I didn't watch Wednesday. No, No, I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 3>about in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about her in general, like her on SNL

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Yeah, I didn't really interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Like I just woke up every day and I

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<v Speaker 2>studied my lines and I I didn't believe you.

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<v Speaker 1>But then she also had that thing where she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I just like redo the writer's lines because I think

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<v Speaker 1>I like know the character better and it's like, Okay,

0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:08.119
<v Speaker 1>they're professional writers, though, ma'am. Like, I'm all for ad libbing,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you can't like rewrite the lines of the writers. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I just googled this. Do you know what Wednesday's Child

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<v Speaker 1>is a reference to? No, it's some kind of fortune

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<v Speaker 1>telling song or like a nursery rhyme that says, Monday's

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<v Speaker 1>child is fair of face, Tuesday's child is full of grace,

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday's child is full of woe, Thursday's child has far

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<v Speaker 1>to go, blah blah blah, keeps going. And the child

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<v Speaker 1>born on the Sabbath Day is Bonnie and blythe good

0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and gay. Okay, So I think I was born on

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<v Speaker 1>a Tuesday. Rosie was born on a Tuesday. So Wednesday's

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.399
<v Speaker 1>a problem child. Wednesday's child is full of woe. So

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<v Speaker 1>if your kid is born on a Wednesday, throw them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that makes sense in terms of Wednesday Adams being

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, a little nutty. Oh maybe that's where

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<v Speaker 1>her name comes from.

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<v Speaker 3>I think. So we just cracked the code. That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Wednesday's Child, Season fifteen. It is episode fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hulu would have you believe otherwise, but we are correct.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is a terrifying start. Truly, I gasped. It's

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 2>William Lewis. It's a ghost, it's a vision. He has

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.359
<v Speaker 2>a full scar, a waxy finish on his face, tight

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.280
<v Speaker 2>little haircut and a tie, and it's a shadowy in

0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 2>the night. Vibe and he is saying TikTok Olivia, and

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.119
<v Speaker 2>an old timey thing is ticking back and forth. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a science clock. I've never I have not.

0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.720
<v Speaker 2>It's not like a petronome. Yes that's exactly what it

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<v Speaker 2>is or not. But the movement you made with your

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<v Speaker 2>hand is the movement. I that is what I saw. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And then a tea kettle whistles.

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<v Speaker 3>The digital clock says four forty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>But our baby Olivia is not sleeping and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>nightmare or is it a living where? Like is she awake?

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, the horrible vision is happening. She has a

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<v Speaker 2>little baby bob hair do also shock she has a

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 2>tea kettle. Honestly, she's such a coffee girl and she

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.679
<v Speaker 2>would never drink instant coffee. So like, I get that

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 2>you can contain multitudes, but I am confused. Maybe she's

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 2>trying to drink tea to go back to sleep. Just

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the whole tea kettle threw me for a loop. Yeah.

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I also think she should have an electric one. I

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I just.

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 1>But this is twenty fourteen. Was everybody doing the electric yet?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I know the Russian community was oh yeah.

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like they just became popular in the

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<v Speaker 1>last like three years.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe i'm now. But you don't drink tea either.

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't. Yeah, I don't, I don't. You're right, you're

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 3>right now.

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>The Tragers have had electric electric cattle ready, ready, yeah,

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the water gets.

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<v Speaker 1>My family doesn't even Oh well, you know what my

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>dad does chemes, you know, and now Jared does chemcks.

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>So my whole life. We grew up with a tea kettle.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just a poorin to the chemics for coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you just say porn? Poor? Okay, poor? I said

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 3>porin to the comic, So it did sound like porn.

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 3>You got me. I got porn on the mind.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever, she does smile though she's not getting sleep,

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Speaker 2>but she smiled, and maybe the thought of him being dead.

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.880
<v Speaker 2>But I've found joy with her. But then we see

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 2>something else. She's at a store, she's at a drug store.

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 2>She buys a pregnancy test. So was that the smile?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So across the world there's a man

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.120
<v Speaker 2>and he's at a gift shop at an airport and

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 2>he's on the phone and he's telling his woman.

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:32.400
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'll be there soon and he's hot.

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 2>His name is John Benjamin Hickey and he's been on

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Watch What Happens Live twice, So okay, I.

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Like that ninety seven credits.

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<v Speaker 2>He does work and he was in two season one

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 2>episodes is eighty A Mark Hickey and he's at the

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Helsinki Airport. Hello, Finland. I've been there, so I noticed

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 2>that flag and I knew it. I could recognize it anywhere.

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Remember when I was going to become famous in Finland

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 2>that didn't happen, did not happen. There were there were

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 2>some finished people at the in the audience of a

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 2>show this week, and I was like, did you watch

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.719
<v Speaker 2>this show? And they had no idea anything about it

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 2>because it was it was going to be my fascism

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 2>escape plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they'll welcome you with open arms, celebrity leads a

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>trigger a beloved friend of Finland.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought that that was going to be the future. No,

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 3>but this is the story of my life.

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I make every opportunity like New Year's and then after

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 2>every opportunity, I go, huh, well, it's about the journey.

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Anyways, that's what happens. Who is like this is.

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 2>When the money's going to come in and then I'm

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>always like, you know what, what a great life, and.

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 3>This is a great experience. Another one for the books.

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not going to be able to escape fascism

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 2>as quickly as I thought. But it was so fun.

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean to touch a reindeer, and I mean it

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>looked amazing every second of it. Yeah, lifelexcept for Yeah,

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 2>one bad producer, but everything else looks great. And even

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 2>we hugged at the end. But she also said, I

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.959
<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna be famous in Finland and maybe she

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 2>evil eyed me. Yeah, I was just gonna see she

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 2>cursed you, she took me down. So anyways, so this

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 2>daddy in Helsinki, he's like, how's Nikki. The Mom's like,

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 2>he's better, He's better. And the mom is played by

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Jodi Marcal. She went to Northwestern and her big thing

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 2>was eight episodes of Big Love.

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 3>Did you watch that? She was? When I did?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I knew I recognized her. She I don't remember

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:32.479
<v Speaker 1>exactly who she was. I feel like she was like

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe another woman in the community or something, but I

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>think so a show. I don't remember this woman in

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 1>like the braids with like the thing. Maybe she was

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>in the real life part of it family right, No, no,

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>no not, but like, yeah, she could have been like

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they interacted with a lot of real people that

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>were like what are you guys?

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 2>You know? I okay, Bill's secretary and the company's junior bookkeeper.

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes okay, so not in the church.

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I remember her, Yes a secretary vibes Yeah, there we go. Perfect, okay,

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 2>So daddy, you know, Daddy's like, I love you both,

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 2>see you soon, and then it's like yeah, yeah right,

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>it says to be you good luck. So then Benson

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 2>comes to work. She sits at her little desk and

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>we have amrro rollins Fin. The gang's all here, and

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Amaro's like you okay, and she's like, yeah, bitch, I'm fine.

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 2>But then she tucks her hair behind her ear and sighs,

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>so it's like what is like, what is up?

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 3>So she's now.

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Out in the cold being like, oh hi, Brian, I've

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 2>been trying to call you.

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 3>Is now a good time?

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's of course Cassidy aka sexy and toxic. Then

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 2>it quickly cuts to Olivia in therapy with her dude and.

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 3>She's a noodle. Bill Irwin he's been out on the

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 3>picket lines here in La. Wait, but everybody Noodle's been out. Yeah.

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, this guy, Bill Irwin is like a big whenever

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>we talk about him, I think we forget to mention

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>that he's mister Noodle. And people write us and we

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>want you to know that we know he's mister Noodle.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>But mister Noodle, what can you give me? Even the

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>reference Sesame Street? Sesame Street? Sorry, okay, is that right?

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Let me just oh my god, yeah, yeah.

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 2>It is, Oh my god, Yeah, it's so weird.

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>The episode wait, this isn't the episode where she has

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a dream that she's kissing him, right, No, it's not.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.959
<v Speaker 2>But we have to take this mister Noodle photo on

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Instagram him in Elmo cannot Oh my god, he's so

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>silly and cute.

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay.

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>So it quickly cuts to live in therapy and it's

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>her dude, and she's annoyed because you know, she has

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 2>to take care of a lot of people in her

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>new position at the squad. Being a boss is hard,

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and the therapist is like, honey, I know they're gonna

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>mom the shit out of you. That sucks, but like,

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>something's on your mind, So tell me what's really happening,

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, well, I thought it was pregnant, but

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not, and I know I should feel relieved, and

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Brian does in therapy. Man, mister Noodle is like, nah,

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>you feel how you like? Who cares how you should feel?

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel? So she tears up and admits

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 2>that she imagined this whole other life. And before we

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 2>can even finish, we go back to Finland. Business Daddy,

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 2>he is getting home and this is so American, Like

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to go wake your kid up in the.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Middle of the night.

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that is the most American thing. Let your

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>kids sleep, It's so wild. But then god, he checks

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 2>because his son is not there. Nikki is missing. He

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>turns on the light in a panic. The camera spins

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>around him. It's a stressed out dad. Lisa's sleeping and

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 2>will not wake up. But also she is clearly fake sleeping.

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>This angle is not comfortable. She like, she's fully at

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>a like one hundred and twenty degree angle on her side,

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>like it no, but that would be laying down this

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>way up this way more acute, like not ninety like

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>forty five.

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 3>She's like up on a lot of pillows.

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I actually pride myself

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>on being good at geometry, so I'm really upset that

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I fucked up these angles. It's okay, I am devastated.

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, but she is fake sleeping. It cannot be comfortable,

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 2>so she fake wakes up. It's like a bad play.

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 2>And all the lights are on as well, like it's

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 2>full lamps, and it doesn't seem like she smoked an

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>indaka jeter, you.

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Know what I mean.

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>It's not like she passed out from all that Keith,

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>So I'm confused. So she's like, oh, Nicky's asleep, and

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like no, no, no, he's gone. And she tries

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 2>her community theater best. But also I want to say,

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 2>the actress is killing it. It's like the bitch mom

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 2>is fake sleeping, but the actress is playing a fake sleeper.

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 3>So well, so I know this is very meta, but we're.

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>At the credits and now we're back and it is

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 2>it's I know, this is like obviously well known in

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 2>our community and worldwide, but the song is just so good.

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>The intro song is just so good.

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>No, and like every day you guys are new videos

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok of people just absolutely nailing choreo to this song,

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's don't worry, we will make our own soon.

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 3>We just have to hire a choreographer first.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to be somewhere where it starts playing like

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>on like a like a techno version of it starts

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>playing on a dance floor.

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I would love that.

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 2>No, yesterday I started having fantasies of like walking into

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the SVU theme at my wedding. But would that be

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>ghost you know it is crimes, yeah, like but like

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>a nice violin, like do.

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Do do do do do do do do.

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I was down the aisle, I mean I go, I

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>would I would shed a tear?

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh not ile into the party as your entrance. Oh yes,

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>boom boom, you just come out. Oh my god.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Because I was just at a wedding and they came

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>out to the Succession theme song.

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>They did, Oh that's fun. Yeah.

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 2>And then I was dming someone that I met in

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Boston and were telling me about their wedding, and they

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>also came out to the Succession theme. So I think

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>that's in the zeitgeist. So but the song, it's like,

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I never skip. We watched so much SVU. I don't

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>think people realize at times, like, you know, it's the

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>episodes we work on, but we're also watching episodes to

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.719
<v Speaker 2>find guests at all times, and like, yeah, it really

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>is constant. And I've never skipped intro. I don't think

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>anyone has. It's just like I don't know.

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't skip. I skipped the song.

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't skip the song, but I do skip sometimes

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>in the criminal justice system if I'm in a rush.

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>If I'm in a rush, I skip in the criminal

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>justice system. I just have only honest. I just had

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to be honest. I don't get to skip the song,

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>though I do love the song.

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 3>It is just so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we're back anyways, Winter Whear is going on.

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Benson and Tomorrow are in Black Beanies, and Olivia has

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>a fur lined hood that is insane.

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 3>It is so fluffy.

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Did she go to the Burlington coat factory? That is

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 2>what immigrants were in the nineties, that is not.

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 3>LinkedIn Cote back. I told you that my mom used

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<v Speaker 3>to wear.

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>My mom used to I would see my mom showing

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>up at Hebrew School for like one of my things,

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>with like her little fluffy hood bouncing behind her big

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>fluffy hoods.

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Big fluffy hood is so nineties.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>It's so I don't I haven't seen a big flo well,

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I live in La Amorro. Also is like live chill,

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 2>you didn't have to come, and she's like no, no, no.

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 2>The father works the un This is high profile, so

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Nicki Moore, he's seven. No ransom demand or evidence of

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>fourth century. The mom is Lisa, she's a stay at

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>home mom. And the dad just came home from receiving

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a humanitarian award for third world neonatal care. So and

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, then he comes home to his own kid

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>missing after getting awards for helping other kids.

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 3>So now we have an old lady and it's not

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 3>a bucket hat.

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to describe the shape of this hat,

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna go into detail. So it's a bucket hat,

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 2>but the top of the hat is not tight on

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>your head. It is puffy and the flaps go straight across.

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a fuzzy short top hat. And she's a neighbor

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 2>and she's telling a white, floppy woolhat rollins like, oh boy,

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>that little kid, he's hell on wheels. He runs into

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 2>the street. He is wacky. And then we get exposition

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>from the mom. He's from Georgia, from the former Soviet

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Union Vibes. He was adopted two years ago by the

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 2>family Tom found Nikki had an orphanage, and she goes

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 2>a godsend and Benson asks if there are other problems

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>in the home or has he run away before? And

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 2>something catches Benson's eye and she's like, wait, did you

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>that window is open? She goes, oh, yeah, I opened it.

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>The heat was so hot. And she's like, oh no,

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>did someone come in and take him? And Benson's like, stranger.

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Abductions are very rare, but it is a ground floor,

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 2>so maybe he walked out and the mom is like,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 2>why would he do that?

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Benson runs off. She can't talk to this mom.

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>She's deranged, and so she's getting the info blue pajamas trains,

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 2>but the winter coat is hanging, so that's not good.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 2>So this kid is just like in pajamas in the

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 2>winter in New York, out and about and so we

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>have some dad time with Amorrow and he's like, listen,

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 2>my kid is wild, has no friends. He's a bit

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 2>different the first five years of his life for an orphanage,

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 2>so he's gonna have some issues.

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't bond with, you know, other kids, and.

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 2>It's tough and he even has a tough time with

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 2>these adoptive parents. And but he's super friendly, actually in

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 2>a bad way. He doesn't understand social order, so he

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't understand family than friends, than strangers, so he's nice

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 2>to strangers and he gravitates towards strangers. He has a

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>lot of socialization and developmental issues.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 3>And that's just the truth.

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 2>And it is really convenient that this guy does you

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 2>and child behaviors, you know, like it's cool that he

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>knows everything. So the mom starts to panic and to Benson,

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>she's like, fuck, like he had a bad day, but

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe this, and be and soon asked, well,

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>what was the what's the day? So they were in Connecticut,

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 2>driving back from their house and she homeschools him, and

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Omaro runs in and interrupts because there's an added issue,

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and the dad is mad at the mom and he's like,

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 2>you didn't tell him about the pump. He's shocked. She's like,

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I didn't think about it. And they

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 2>are all worried now and he only has enough insulin

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 2>for three days for his diabetes. No prints anywhere, no

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.399
<v Speaker 2>street cams, no sign of kids anywhere. Can we track

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>his insulin pump? Well, we will get a pain when

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.760
<v Speaker 2>it's low on the phone, but it doesn't have GPS.

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 3>So now we have future pedophile.

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Hank Abraham on the scene and Benson's like, I don't

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 2>know who the fuck you are, but I'm not interested.

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 3>He flashes a badge.

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>He's acting Deputy Commissioner for Public Information. He has an

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 2>annoying smirk and the squad hates him. But He's like,

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 2>we got to let people know. We got to get

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>the word out on the missing kid. Press briefing in

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.919
<v Speaker 2>ten Benson's like, wait what? So she has a chat

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 2>in front of the cameras in ten minutes. But we

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 2>have a door guy from across the street who told

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Rollins that Nikki had talked to a street guy called Keys.

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 2>He does the alternate side parking for the block. Now

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>this is a storyline on Seinfeld as well.

0:36:58.560 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Are these these.

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Guys must say exists? I've just never encountered a Keys

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 2>type guy. I think so because I think my aunt

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>had one. Because she my aunt that lived in my

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 2>apartment before me on the Upper West I think she

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>had a guy that would move her car for her.

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 2>But I never had a car in the city for

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 2>more than like a few days, so I never really

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I just had to wake up early and fucking move that.

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>I hate all that in the city. It's so annoying.

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Part okay, I just don't get where you put it,

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>because if you're one person, you run around. But if

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like okay, Keys is doing the whole block, so

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>he moves every car, like I can't even comprehend.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, on my block, everybody just moves over and blocks

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the cars on the other side, so like double parks, yeah, everybody.

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>So if you're Keys, you just move every car on

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>this road right across, and then those people.

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Just can't fucking get out. But if they do, you're.

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Around, so you can move the car and then you

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>just chill there on the block until the time is

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 1>over and then move them all back.

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Damn.

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 2>And how much do we gotta find out how much

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 2>your aunt was paying? Like I know, carrieus, I hope.

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>And then my other aunt is the rich one obviously

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>had a garage.

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 2>So Abraham is not loving the spin of this, you know, situation.

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, honey, none of us like, what are

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 2>you talking about? You think we like that there's a

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 2>missing kid with diabetes. Anyways, it's fucking freezing, and who

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>is keys Andre Deshields? Are you fucking kidding me? Tony

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Award winner for Hades Town. I did see it. I

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 2>was in the third row and he deserved it. So

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I live a good life. And if you want to

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 2>feel something good and inspired, you can watch his Tony

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.439
<v Speaker 2>acceptance speech. I think it's it's a really popular one.

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 2>We will post it. And holy shit, I'm just giving

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Kara more errands. I'm like Elmo Andre. And he also

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 2>plays keys again in season twenty two in the episode

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Postgraduate Psychopath.

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 2>And he's in an episode of Sex and the City

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>that we will all remember. It's when Charlotte tap dances.

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 2>He's the tap dancing teacher. He was on the Whizz

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 2>in Broadway. He's got an Emmy, Grammy and Tony. So

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 2>we got to get him in an Oscar flick quick.

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 2>We need an egot here. Yeah, he's a choreographer director.

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 3>He's done somebody for somebody. He's somebody for Quentin Tarrantino.

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Get him into something, yes, And he's just a theater legend,

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>and but he is a black man. So once there

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 2>are cops, he puts his hands up right away and

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh no, no, no, chill, we don't care

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 2>about the car. But he's ready. He's he's no spring chicken.

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 2>He knows what's happening in the streets of New York.

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.399
<v Speaker 2>So they're like, all right, give us the scoop. So

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 2>he knows the kid. He's a good kid, and he's missing,

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, fuck, I saw him last week for

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 2>the last time Tuesday afternoon, and they're like, ho, do

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you know it's Tuesday, and he's like, that's my job,

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Like I got that spot Tuesday until for Friday. And

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 2>she came back Sunday, took a Monday spot, but it's

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 2>a holiday so she could keep it there. And I'm

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 2>loving this little moment. And he's so focused on the cars.

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 2>And you know, she came back Sunday alone. That's what

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the cops I'm worrying about. He's like, I got a

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 2>great spot, and they're like, okay, the kid.

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:06.919
<v Speaker 3>The kid.

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 2>So she pulled in Nicki was not there, and he

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.919
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know where Nicky was. She took in the groceries,

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>but she didn't check the backseat or the trunk or anything.

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 2>And then he has a little catchphrase and he goes, hey,

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 2>if I'm lying, I'm dying.

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 3>I like that. Well.

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 2>So, Candy Burrahs was just on Watch What Happens Live

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 2>with Aaron the night one of you did watch, Okay,

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>watch I just saw this clip where she goes where

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 2>she said, what you're gonna say?

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, the good advice.

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Candy is the longest running housewife, which I didn't realize,

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and she gave Aaron good advice and she said, just

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 2>tell the truth. Don't lie, because then they're gonna show

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 2>a clip of you lying and it's just not worth it.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Tell the truth and say what you mean and just

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 2>mean it like double down like you said it.

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like they're gonna they have everything you said taped.

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Don't make them roll the tape. Yeah, So I bet,

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:01.879
<v Speaker 1>and I bet am Marie. She was so excited that

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Andrea Shields was on side. Oh yeah, because she's like

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a Broadway stand.

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 3>There is no way.

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:11.959
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't like, oh hi, there's no way. She fangirls.

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>So whatever.

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 2>So they searched the car and Amanda's like, whatever, fuck

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 2>the car, let's check the easy pass, Like, let's do that.

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 2>We're on an island. And so the dad is stressed

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>at the squadroom. It's been twelve hours. They let him

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>know that they don't trust the wife, and he does

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>not love that. But she's in the room with Amaro

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and Benson and the woods blind's room, not the cement

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 2>bar's room, and they're pushing her on the time.

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.959
<v Speaker 3>That's so funny. I always try to say, like, it's

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 3>not interrogation.

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like an interview room rather than interrogation, because it's

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>not cement. It's not cement. Yeah, it's like blinds and wood.

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>You're right, you don't understand.

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 2>When I wrote it this succinctly, I went, finally, finally,

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, not.

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Cement and bars. I love it. Oh my god, it's

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 3>always like the wood. What what the thing is? It's

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 3>the nicer room.

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, I mean where they sit in a swivel

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>chair and they get to have like a piece of

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>paper and a pen or whatever.

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 3>It's not like the dead bars and cement. Yes, got it.

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 2>No, But I couldn't have been more proud that, finally

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 2>we have such a succinct weight to discuss it, and

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you've been struggling for dozens of episodes too. Yeah,

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>so we're in the woodblinds not cement bars. Remember that

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 2>is that merch? Is that like best friends bracelets? Like

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm the wood blinds room, I'm the cement bars room.

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, it sucks between us.

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have to be the cement barroom,

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm pissed about it already.

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I would say I am maybe a little bit more

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>of a rigid personality than you, and so maybe I'm

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the cement room.

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's how you know.

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm very into like logistics and organization, and that's getting

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the cement room, and let's get it done.

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm not, as you know, welcome to my home, as

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 3>you never let anyone into my home. No, but in

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:07.959
<v Speaker 3>your spirit, you're welcome to my home.

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 2>If I just had one more room, people would be

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 2>at my house all the time. I loved to host,

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 2>but yes, it's just not possible. I have so many

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 2>boxes of liquid death in my studio apartment I can

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 2>barely open the door. Thank you Joanna Angel for sending

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:28.399
<v Speaker 2>me these liquid deaths. But I am drinking them.

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Look, I want to try one of these Arnold Palmer

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 3>liquid deaths.

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I have tried when I come over to do laundry

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>this week. Yes, bring them over. That's my payment. I

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 1>want three Arnold Palmers for you to use my laundry machine.

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 3>So they're going to.

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Push her on timelines, details, get infos. She mentions the groceries,

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 2>but also Nikki was asleep and he's seven, so how'd

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 2>you get him in the house? And she's like, excuse me,

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, yeah, bitch, they know you're lying.

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 3>You're done.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't like the line of questioning, and they're like,

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 2>how many groceries?

0:43:58.320 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 3>She's like, why does it matter?

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>They're like, well, how would you carry a seven year

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 2>old with in winter with a bunch of bags? She goes,

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 2>why are you asking me this? They're like, well, is

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 2>it possible. Nicki wasn't with you when you drove back

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 2>from Connecticut? She said, are you insane? Of course he was,

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 2>and they're like are you sure? And then they show

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 2>her a photo on the bridge. Nicki's not in the car,

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 2>so she starts to cry. Benson's like, Lisa, when was

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 2>the last time you saw him? She starts sobbing very loudly,

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 2>like drooel teeth all of it. The full secret has

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 2>been released. She through tears gets it out. She had

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 2>to do it. I had to. I had to. You

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>would have done the same thing I had to. She

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.879
<v Speaker 2>looks down and drops her head, and Benson's like, yeah,

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 2>got you, bitch. She's also like God, like where is he?

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 3>You know? Tell me where he is?

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>So now we have Amoro, Rollins and Benson in the

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>spy window and they're so frustrated. She won't give any details.

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>She just keeps saying I had to do it, and

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 2>the husband has no idea. Amorrow asks and Finn pops

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:54.320
<v Speaker 2>out of a corner like nah. The husband not a chance.

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:56.720
<v Speaker 2>So their plan is to put Daddy in the box

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 2>and see if she'll spill to him. So let's go.

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 2>He just doesn't even get it or can comprehend it.

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 2>He's like, what does this mean? She's like, I had

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 2>no choice. He can't understand, so she couldn't take it.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.720
<v Speaker 3>She was losing her mind. He's like, where is Nicky?

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 2>And then she's a gaslight talks at Queen instead of

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 2>like answering where NICKI is?

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 3>She goes, well, where were you? Where were you? And

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 3>it's like, where's Helsinki.

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, well, we know he was getting a

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 2>humanitarian award, so you don't look good. But then she

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 2>has a great point. She was alone with him for

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 2>six weeks.

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.439
<v Speaker 1>What dude, you can't go to hill Sinky for six

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>weeks when you have like a special needs child, Come.

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 3>On six weeks or bring them with like six weeks.

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 3>He's a lot.

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 2>But then he comes back and goes, I said we

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 2>could hire someone, and she screams unarmed guard and it's like, okay,

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>why not he said let's hire help.

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Like you can't.

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did leave, but it seems like he's wealthy.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 2>You have two homes. So to show how wild he is,

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 2>she says that he opened the door when they were

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>going seventy on the freeway. I would not be happy

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 2>about that. Amaro cuts in. He's all business like out

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. He's like a vampire bat hanging and just

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 2>like appeared sexy as hell. But he has a sad

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 2>question and he goes, is nicky alive? And the dad

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 2>puts his hand on his face and it hits him

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 2>that that's a possibility. And he's like, oh my, and

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 2>she looks dumbfounded and says, I could never harm a child.

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 2>So Benson goes, okay, great, then tell us where he is.

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 2>So she gave him to someone who said that they

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 2>could handle him, and he screams, you gave my son away.

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 2>She looks down, kind of embarrassed. Okay to who the

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 2>orphanage wouldn't take him back, and she's bitter about that

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 2>because they didn't tell them that he had all these problems.

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>City foster care would be a nightmare. Okay, So where

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 2>is he? And she's like a family that knows how

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 2>to raise boys like that, and the dad is clearly

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 2>very mad. She said they were a strict religious family,

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 2>but would let them know that their names, and it's like,

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 2>you gave your kid to a person who's name you

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't know.

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 3>That's bad.

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So she's like, well, the family is that a clean

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 2>break was what was best and the dad is like,

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 2>why would you lie? And Benson waves her arm like

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 2>enough and then swings a chair to the table to

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>get eye to eye with this woman and then like

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 2>like it's Benson in business, Like she's in business mode.

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 2>It's intense. It's like the urgency has stepped up. She

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 2>looks right at this bitch and goes, who is she?

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Who is She start talking and she goes to the woman.

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a service. She found it online, and

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the woman said she should she would come right away.

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 2>And I wonder when it will hit her that she like,

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 2>fucked up. I can't believe a real person would do this.

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 2>But also it's SBUs so I get it, and this

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 2>is an Emmy worthy performance. So she goes, no, it's legit.

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I gave her power of attorney. Everyone's face drops. She's like,

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.919
<v Speaker 2>she seemed really nice. And the dad is still hand

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 2>over mouth. He cannot believe what this woman that he's

0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 2>like shared his life.

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:02.320
<v Speaker 3>With me has not fucking wild d breaker.

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's not. It seems like he stays with her,

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 2>like I don't get it, but I guess he really

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 2>understands the brain.

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:10.919
<v Speaker 3>Oh god.

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 2>So now we see Hank Abraham in the office and

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 2>he's summarizing what just happened with Benson and the family

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 2>service lawyer Pippa Cox.

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 3>We love Pippa Cox.

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 2>They are married, and it is funny, like there's not

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:24.879
<v Speaker 2>one vibe of marriage here.

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 1>This is the only episode they ever appear in together.

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 1>This is the only scene there ever appear in together,

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>besides when he gets.

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, the pedophiled. Yeah, I am shocked that there's

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:41.280
<v Speaker 2>not even like a little look like it is so funny.

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.840
<v Speaker 2>So and I love seeing like old office phones. It

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>reminds you of my past, so I like it. So

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 2>now they have to figure out like the baby broker

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and get to the bottom of it. And Hank is like,

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 2>you go arrest the mother, and Pipa hops since she goes, yes,

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I can charge her with filing a false report.

0:48:56.920 --> 0:49:01.720
<v Speaker 3>But that's it. I can't do anything else. What what wild?

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean you can't do anything else? She

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 2>dropped the kid off like a kitten on the highway.

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:11.879
<v Speaker 2>Great analogy, Benson, great analogy and Pepa and that would

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 2>piss me off.

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 3>And Pipa gets it.

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 2>But there are ways around, like the law unfortunately, and

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Connecticut allows for non legal transfers of children.

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Cool loophole Connecticut. What it's also like, they're not they're not.

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess they have a house in Connecticut, so maybe

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 1>their residents of Connecticut. But it's like I can just

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:32.879
<v Speaker 1>go home and give one of my kids away when

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:35.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm visiting my parents, just like throw them to someone else,

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 1>good to know.

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 3>It's just kidding, I'm kidding.

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 2>It's fucked up, these internet middlemen. Hank calls it regifting.

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Pipa has to give a shout out and say re

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 2>homing and then no, but nobody is tracking them at all,

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Like these kids are just being traded around in Connecticut,

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.320
<v Speaker 2>and Hank is like, well, we told the whole city

0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 2>the kid is missing, so we need to tell them

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 2>like the it was found. And it's like that was

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:04.720
<v Speaker 2>your idea, Like this is so classic, like you demanded

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:07.280
<v Speaker 2>a press conference and now you're using the press conference

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 2>against everybody, Like yeah, shut up. But also Connecticut, they

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.400
<v Speaker 2>have no jurisdiction. But Benson doesn't give up and she

0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 2>has a light bulb moment. Don't both parents have to

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 2>sign off? And Pippa says yes, so this is great news.

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.760
<v Speaker 2>They're both legal custodians and the father reported him missing,

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>so then like Benson can work on the case. So

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 2>they do an amber alert immediately, and we cut to.

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac it's a college. It's also a college in Connecticut.

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 3>That's all I know about it.

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 2>And it's a childcare center in East Haven, Connecticut. And

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 2>it's January twenty first, And I'm mentioning the date because

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I want everyone to understand how cold it is. Oh yeah, January,

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's fucking cold.

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>This can have anybody like talked about like when she

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>dropped the kid off, did he have his pump? Did

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>he have his insulin or was she just like figure

0:50:58.480 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 1>out the diabetes part or what?

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they mentioned it later, she did drop him off

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 2>with pumps, but it is fucked and they haven't mentioned

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 2>it yet. So they go to this child gifting area

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's Patty Mayonnaise. It's Patty Mayonnaise. Her name is

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Constance Schulman and she's here to play and you might

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 2>also know her as Yoga Jones and Orange is the

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:25.399
<v Speaker 2>New Black, and she's like, yeah, I found a new

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 2>family for him on Wednesday.

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Wednesday's child.

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Another meaning, after Lisa dropped him off, Am I doing

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 2>a good.

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.280
<v Speaker 3>You did really sound like her at the beginning?

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:39.759
<v Speaker 1>One second, you did. We lived in my neighborhood on

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the Upper West Side. I used to see her and

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 1>her kid all the time.

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Yeah, I just used to see her and be

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 3>like it's Yoga Jones.

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 2>That's really cool, and so like basically Lisa dropped him

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 2>off Tuesday and Wednesday she found a new family quick

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:57.359
<v Speaker 2>and Finn is like, okay, well the dad didn't sign off,

0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, oh yeah, the dad wasn't involved. And

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.240
<v Speaker 2>then rollind' says like, okay, well give us the info

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 2>you have on the family, and she has like a

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 2>really goofy magic this like school bus vibe desk, like

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 2>it's messy and all of this. And then I was like, wait,

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 2>but did miss Frizzel even have papers? And did she

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:14.320
<v Speaker 2>even give those kids tests?

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Like it was a hands on Miss Frizzel was hands

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 1>on in that Magic school Bus.

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 3>I loved Magic School Bus. I really did.

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 2>But it's also like, lady, do you still not see

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 2>an issue with what you're doing? Like her energy is

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 2>very like optimistic and childlike, and it's like, is this

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:33.879
<v Speaker 2>an act or do you really think what you're doing

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 2>is an okay enterprise? But and this is where she says,

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Lisa brought extra insulin. Oh that's good, and the new

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:43.320
<v Speaker 2>parents understood the pump. She goes, you know, because the

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 2>dad has some issues and Fins like what issues, And

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:48.319
<v Speaker 2>then she says, he's in a wheelchair, and I don't

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 2>understand how a pump and a wheelchair have anything to

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 2>do too with each other, Like just because someone's in

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 2>a wheelchair doesn't mean they know how to work an

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 2>insulin pump.

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 3>But to Yoga Jones, it's the same, like.

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 2>It's equal, And she goes, well, that's why they couldn't

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 2>adopt their normal channels because he's in a wheelchair. And

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 2>that makes me be like, oh, well that okay, I

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 2>guess that makes sense. But there's still like get information.

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 2>They truly there's no info. There's Alexa and Roger Smith

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:19.720
<v Speaker 2>as the names we get Rollins reads the address out loud,

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:23.239
<v Speaker 2>and Finn knows the address of Yankee Stadium wildly, and

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 2>it's the Yankee Stadium address, so the music swell. She goes,

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I feel sick about this. So she

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 2>is just dumb, like she's just dumb and thinks she's

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 2>doing a good job. She's so upset and shocked, and

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I do believe it, but then she just goes she

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:37.359
<v Speaker 2>seem like good.

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:38.400
<v Speaker 3>They seem like good.

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 2>People, but they have no ideas nothing. How do you

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 2>not take an idea of someone that's taking a kid crazy.

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I just I can't even understand this. Are you going

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 2>to answer any of my questions in the real crimes,

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 2>like what is fucking going on?

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there is something similar, but I don't have

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:57.480
<v Speaker 3>any answers to these questions. It's crazy.

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I just want to know, like, does this bitch Yoga

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Jones thinks she's doing a good job or is she

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 2>a criminal? Or does she not care? Like what is happening?

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Gonna you're not gonna photocopy an ID?

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.879
<v Speaker 1>At least say these ideas are fake, Like, at least

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:15.839
<v Speaker 1>say I took an ID and then they turn out

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to be fake, like it's this it is really crazy God, And.

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.879
<v Speaker 2>Then she goes, I could draw a sketch for you.

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 2>So then finally they're like, okay, like we hate you,

0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 2>but what kind of car? And she does have details

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 2>It was a church lady van blue for a handicapped driver,

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and the license plate frame was a dealer in Mount

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Vernon because she remembers thinking about George Washington, so that

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 2>is helpful.

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:41.840
<v Speaker 3>And there are sketches.

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:44.080
<v Speaker 2>So now we're in the squad room and we have picks,

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 2>we have all the information they're known as Roger and

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Alexa Pearson. They're both on the registry. He's a producer

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 2>and she's a former porn star. But obviously there's more

0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:57.879
<v Speaker 2>to their registry. Shit, it's good stuff. So they were

0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 2>busted in the past. He did eight years, she got probation,

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:03.440
<v Speaker 2>and now they've adopted Nikki, and it's like, what the

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 2>fuck are they doing?

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 3>Rogers four other aliases?

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:08.880
<v Speaker 2>She has three other aliases, and also the photos it

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 2>looks like she's going a burning man like everyone going

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 2>she seemed nice. Is so strange to me because she

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 2>has feathers in her hair and a fedora. She looks deranged,

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 2>the amount of eyeliner on, Like like, I just.

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 3>She seemed nice.

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:28.360
<v Speaker 2>She seems hopped up on drugs and about to like

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 2>dance to the disco biscuits, Like there's no way she

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 2>looked like a family woman, because there's other like criminal

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 2>fans like Margot Martindale played like a you know, a

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 2>person who chained up kids in a farm. But it's

0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Margot Martindale, And I can understand if someone goes, oh,

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:49.279
<v Speaker 2>she seems she seemed nice. Yeah, not Rosanna Arquette, you know,

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, dude, you know what's crazy.

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Rosanna Arquette just a couple days ago, was trying to

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 3>park her car at a Malibu shopping center and instead

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 3>of reversing, she went for and she slammed into this

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:04.919
<v Speaker 3>thing and like took out three pillars that support. It's

0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 3>like nobody got hurt, so it's like you can kind

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:09.120
<v Speaker 3>of laugh about it, but it's this like wild like

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:12.319
<v Speaker 3>oopsie Daisy Rosanna Argett, Like I heard about it on

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 3>another podcast and I was like, oh my god. But

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 3>she's like this.

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Their whole family, I feel like, has like this wacky

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 1>They just have like wacky vibes in the Arquette family.

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, so basically this Alex, Alex and Roger

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 1>there they found a bunch of evidence of them being

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 1>on rehoming bulletin boards. So they troll for unwanted adopted

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:36.840
<v Speaker 1>kids to star in their movies.

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 3>This is dark and.

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Then they're like, well, we got to find these people,

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 2>like what about the FBI? And Tomorrow was like, no,

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:45.799
<v Speaker 2>the FBI says that, like these kids have not showed

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:48.400
<v Speaker 2>up in any videos yet, so we signed some relief

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 2>until Rollins is like, yeah, but it could be a

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:53.839
<v Speaker 2>live stream and It's like, fuck it could. And then

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Benson's like, listen, these are grifters. Look for welfare, unemployment,

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 2>disability checks. We will find them. And Finn links them

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 2>to VA payments, so hell yeah. So they go to

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:06.799
<v Speaker 2>the address of where the VA payments go.

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:07.759
<v Speaker 3>Nobody is there.

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 2>The neighbors told them that the old tenants left after

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Hurricane Sandy, and these people showed up saying that they

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 2>were relatives. The thing is, they just look so shady.

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Is this like a whiteness type thing?

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 1>They literally look like the textbook definition of grifter people

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:24.480
<v Speaker 1>like this.

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 3>There's like a picture of these two.

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 1>People because it's also the guy is from Sons of Anarchy.

0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 2>He's he's like big, like a big presence, gray, long hair,

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 2>gray or Mark Boone Junior is this guy's name, and

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 2>he was he's on Sons of Anarchy.

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, he looks like he's either a biker

0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 3>or a former porn producer who's now making childborn Like

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of his look.

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he looks like a Boon Junior, you know

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So you know, they knock knock, all

0:57:57.360 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 2>the doors and windows are boarded, and the neighbors are

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 2>like we did hear kids playing, but it looks empty,

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 2>but they're in there.

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:04.440
<v Speaker 3>They they're calling for.

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Nicki and then they while they keep looking around, they're like, oh,

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 2>they left in a hurry. I'm sure they saw the

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 2>amberler and ran. They find three girls sleeping bags and

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 2>they find Nicki's train blue pajamas. There's also a video

0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 2>filming area and there's a ton of blank DVDs. One

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 2>is in the machine Rollin's presses play and it's really dark,

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 2>like it really is, like they can't really show anything

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 2>because it's NBC, but the tones and vibe they create

0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 2>really show a darkness of yeah, it's child sex abuse videos,

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:42.600
<v Speaker 2>but without even showing anything. They really I don't even

0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 2>know how they filmed this, Like I really don't even

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:46.920
<v Speaker 2>get it. But there's a tall girl in pigtails and

0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 2>a short girl in pigtails and they like sigh like

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 2>they hate doing that, Like they're like old pros in

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:53.439
<v Speaker 2>a way.

0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 3>The kids like.

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm Janet, like yeah, really sad, and they're in schoolgirl

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 2>outfits and they're like, oh, you know, come join us

0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 2>for a playdate, and they're trying to include Nicki and

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Nicky's like get the fuck away from me.

0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Nicki's just in the corner.

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:11.680
<v Speaker 2>He's playing, he's shaking no, and he refuses to be involved.

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:14.160
<v Speaker 2>And then Tomorrow is like, if this is what they

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 2>left behind, what the fuck did they take with them?

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:19.479
<v Speaker 2>So Benson's in the office pissed off, like how hard

0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 2>is it to find a giant blue van and a

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 2>man with a wheelchair? And I do feel they're aggressive

0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:29.640
<v Speaker 2>about wheelchairs here, like we you know, like you can't

0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:34.440
<v Speaker 2>just there's a man in a wheelchair. It's too you know, relax,

0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 2>not relax, it's important.

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:39.360
<v Speaker 3>But I don't like their vibe of like how hard

0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:41.640
<v Speaker 3>is it to find a grifter and a wheelchair? And

0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:44.600
<v Speaker 3>it's like they're not all grifters anyway. So then they're

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 3>like where are the girls from?

0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 2>There's no fucking info on them nowhere, no missing kid lists, nothing,

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:54.479
<v Speaker 2>only screen grabs from porn and they're trying to track

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 2>those down. And then Humanitarian Dad and the worst mom

0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.400
<v Speaker 2>in America run in and they see the screen of

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:02.040
<v Speaker 2>all the investments gation work and they're like, wait, fuck

1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 2>do those people have Nikki?

1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:05.240
<v Speaker 3>And they turn off the screen really.

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Fast and she's like, I told you not to come here,

1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:11.000
<v Speaker 2>we'll tell you if we find anything. He's like, please,

1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I know what child exploitation looks like. I work at

1:00:13.960 --> 1:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the un I've won an award. Lisa gasps and finally

1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:20.200
<v Speaker 2>it hit her and she goes, what have I done?

1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:23.720
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, shut up, it's not about you right now.

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Finally someone shuts her up. This is a narcissist. Yeah

1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the woman. Yeah, still, she started me. She struck me though,

1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:36.640
<v Speaker 2>also as like very pilled out. Like the whole time,

1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this woman's on pills. She's like trying

1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:40.800
<v Speaker 2>to make it through every day. She can't handle this child.

1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:43.560
<v Speaker 1>She's like self medicating, Like she doesn't seem like she's

1:00:43.600 --> 1:00:43.960
<v Speaker 1>all there.

1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:47.200
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't, she is pilled out. You're right, you're right.

1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I also don't understand, Like, Okay, you have a kid

1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and you don't want it because you're a bad person.

1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:56.600
<v Speaker 2>So then you give your kid up in these weird channels. Okay,

1:00:56.760 --> 1:01:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I see that, Why are you a dot? Adopting a

1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:04.160
<v Speaker 2>child takes so much work, so like, how are you

1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:07.720
<v Speaker 2>adopting a child? That's a lot of paperwork, years of

1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 2>wait and then give it away.

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:14.400
<v Speaker 3>We'll get into it. Oh, in the real way, yeah.

1:01:14.240 --> 1:01:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Because that to me, it's like it's like I don't

1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:21.080
<v Speaker 2>want a kid, so like for me to start adopting

1:01:21.080 --> 1:01:25.280
<v Speaker 2>it would be so yeah. But if we're and then

1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I go, never mind, Yeah, we'll get into it.

1:01:27.880 --> 1:01:28.720
<v Speaker 3>You're right, you're right.

1:01:28.800 --> 1:01:32.320
<v Speaker 2>It's just it is just so sad to think about

1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:37.240
<v Speaker 2>these kids just dropped off in Connecticut and oh my.

1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:38.800
<v Speaker 3>God, oh my god.

1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, so the reason the parents ran in is because

1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:45.560
<v Speaker 2>they did get a low insulin blood sugar warning on

1:01:45.600 --> 1:01:46.040
<v Speaker 2>their phone.

1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:48.280
<v Speaker 3>So they're scared at what the data is. Scared.

1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, look, I wrote the mom seems heavily medicated. Yes, yeah, okay,

1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:55.160
<v Speaker 2>we're on the same page. Benson then yells to the

1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:57.920
<v Speaker 2>squad to put out an alert to every pharmacy and

1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:02.240
<v Speaker 2>like whatever with photo and the insulin scoop. So we

1:02:02.600 --> 1:02:05.720
<v Speaker 2>end up at Cross Bay Pharmacy. It is Rosanna Arquette

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and I know her the most from The L Word.

1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:10.800
<v Speaker 3>She has wild sex scenes with Kate Mennick.

1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh really yeah, And also pulp fiction is huge for me.

1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:17.600
<v Speaker 2>But she has one hundred and fifty seven credits.

1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Like she was a really big star of

1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the eighties and nineties, like I used to see. I

1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:24.880
<v Speaker 1>remember seeing her in this really creepy movie with Dennis Hopper.

1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what it's called, but it's like in

1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:29.680
<v Speaker 1>my mind, like I have I like when I see her,

1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I have like flashes of this movie, Like it was

1:02:32.000 --> 1:02:32.680
<v Speaker 1>just on HBO.

1:02:32.720 --> 1:02:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I could probably look it up or one of you

1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:34.720
<v Speaker 3>will DM it to me.

1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:37.760
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, she was in Like wasn't she the other

1:02:37.840 --> 1:02:41.360
<v Speaker 1>one with Madonna and desperately seeking Susan or who's that girl?

1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, like she's yeah, she's a big.

1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Eighties galp nowties Dennis Hopper ever not put shivers up

1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:53.480
<v Speaker 2>your spine. Finally, Like Dennis Hopper plays an evil person

1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:57.560
<v Speaker 2>so fucking good. But she's at this pharmacy. It's in

1:02:57.640 --> 1:03:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Howard Beach, Queens And so the photo of the suspects

1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:03.320
<v Speaker 2>you see are like in the view of the pharmacists.

1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:05.480
<v Speaker 2>They're hanging on like the bulletin board by the computer,

1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:09.160
<v Speaker 2>and the pharmacist is doing a great job keeping her there.

1:03:09.280 --> 1:03:12.520
<v Speaker 2>She's not like giving signs, you know, like usually people

1:03:12.560 --> 1:03:15.040
<v Speaker 2>that have to do this are always failing. And this bitch,

1:03:15.120 --> 1:03:17.600
<v Speaker 2>you could tell she wents so good college, so she's

1:03:17.640 --> 1:03:20.640
<v Speaker 2>getting in paid. But Roseanne is getting impatient, and she's like,

1:03:21.160 --> 1:03:22.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, they don't know that they're selling for cops.

1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:25.480
<v Speaker 2>She's wearing the same fuzzy hat, like these fuzzy hats,

1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess we're in, but this one's leopard print, and

1:03:29.400 --> 1:03:31.320
<v Speaker 2>and so then the cops are finally there. It's Finn

1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and Rollins. There's a chase and then she thinks she's

1:03:33.920 --> 1:03:36.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna escape, but a car hops out and then Rollins

1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:38.439
<v Speaker 2>tackles her to the ground and it sounded like it

1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:43.560
<v Speaker 2>hurt the Folly artists came to play this day, and

1:03:43.760 --> 1:03:46.800
<v Speaker 2>so then we got this bitch. Finn and Rollins are

1:03:46.800 --> 1:03:49.920
<v Speaker 2>in leave interrogation. So we cut to like the future

1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and they're leaving the interrogation room and they're like, fuck,

1:03:52.360 --> 1:03:54.640
<v Speaker 2>this bitch is so tight. She won't say a word.

1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Amoro runs in with a file though, and it's the

1:03:58.560 --> 1:04:00.919
<v Speaker 2>reason they went easy on her. He says, like, why

1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:03.360
<v Speaker 2>she got probation, So I wonder what it is. So

1:04:03.360 --> 1:04:06.640
<v Speaker 2>they've run in rejuvenated that they have this file with

1:04:06.840 --> 1:04:10.280
<v Speaker 2>information of her sad story of why she got probation,

1:04:10.440 --> 1:04:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and he and Roger went to jail. So they're like, hey, Gurley,

1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:20.680
<v Speaker 2>you've had a fun run, haven't she? Alexa, child porn, identity, theft,

1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:24.800
<v Speaker 2>pandering with adolescens. Now we can add kidnapping and child

1:04:24.840 --> 1:04:27.800
<v Speaker 2>in dangerment and she doesn't seem bothered. She doesn't know

1:04:27.840 --> 1:04:29.840
<v Speaker 2>what they're talking about. She's like, do you see any

1:04:29.920 --> 1:04:32.240
<v Speaker 2>kids in danger? And they're like, we have the disc

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<v Speaker 2>And then they accuse her of like pimping out the

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<v Speaker 2>girls and pimping everyone out. She goes pimping, No, she scoffed,

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<v Speaker 2>she goes play dates. She goes, I gave a home

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<v Speaker 2>to kids who nobody else wanted, and we have not

1:04:44.080 --> 1:04:46.640
<v Speaker 2>broken the law. We're all about taking care of kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, Nikki, so you care while his insulin

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<v Speaker 2>is dropping, so tell us like where he is and

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<v Speaker 2>at that moment, like she's such a good actress at

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<v Speaker 2>that or a director whatever, like whoever's in charge of this.

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<v Speaker 2>But like as soon as the Slinn Droppings starts talking,

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<v Speaker 2>she has a smirk across her face and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>this knowing smirk of now she has power, she has

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<v Speaker 2>a bargaining chip.

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<v Speaker 3>So they gave her a little bit to work with.

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<v Speaker 2>But they need to know where Nikki is or he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to go into a coma and then that'll be

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<v Speaker 2>on you know, you and Roger, and she goes, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be on you. You arrested me like he would

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<v Speaker 2>have had his insulin by now, so let me go.

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<v Speaker 2>And Benson's like, wow, Bethany, Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Bethany wow. Talk about women supporting women.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, But you are bargaining while the kid is dying.

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<v Speaker 3>That's hardcore.

1:05:34.040 --> 1:05:36.960
<v Speaker 2>And Benson has seen hardcore and she says, lady, you

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea anything these kids have had to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I did backwards and high heels from the time I

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<v Speaker 2>was six, and Benson's like, I get it, girl. You

1:05:44.480 --> 1:05:47.400
<v Speaker 2>clearly had a hard life, street life. You got turned

1:05:47.400 --> 1:05:50.480
<v Speaker 2>out as a teen. You you know you lost your baby, Charlie,

1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:53.240
<v Speaker 2>and she says, don't you talk about him? So the

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<v Speaker 2>baby was born premature because of fetal alcohol syndrome. Goes

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<v Speaker 2>the baby was only one pound four ounces, and they

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<v Speaker 2>shame her and around the clock care for two years

1:06:04.880 --> 1:06:07.680
<v Speaker 2>with this baby, and so they use the love she

1:06:07.720 --> 1:06:10.200
<v Speaker 2>had for the baby to like prove how she does

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<v Speaker 2>care and that's why she's caring for NICKI. So she's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna break, she does cry. You don't know what it's

1:06:17.000 --> 1:06:19.480
<v Speaker 2>like to lose one, it leaves a hole in your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, so where is NICKI He's okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Roger's making sure he eats, and tomorrow's like feeding him.

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<v Speaker 2>Crap's not gonna help him. He can still die. Benson

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<v Speaker 2>is like, I know you want to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I see it in your eyes. And she's like, please

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell Roger. I gave it up so easy. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we go to a motor lodge and the

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<v Speaker 2>squad is vested up, and you know, the hair is

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<v Speaker 2>bouncing down the motel halls, the gorgeous the gorgeous locks,

1:06:44.800 --> 1:06:48.600
<v Speaker 2>and so the kids are inside. Stella and Madison, pigtail

1:06:48.640 --> 1:06:51.439
<v Speaker 2>cutie girls are in there and they're like, oh, you're

1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:53.880
<v Speaker 2>looking for Nicky because no one, I guess has ever

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<v Speaker 2>looked for them.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're like, yeah, mom went to look for medicine

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<v Speaker 2>and never came back. And then there's like this girl's

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<v Speaker 2>mature as hell and like fully compose this vested armed

1:07:06.400 --> 1:07:09.680
<v Speaker 2>cops run in and she's just like hey, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>no no stress, no stress, sleigh.

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<v Speaker 3>So then then they say.

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<v Speaker 2>Uncle Roger took Nikki out for a treat, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were left there and then they realized someone else is

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<v Speaker 2>in the other room, and they're like, please, no, don't

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<v Speaker 2>go in there. And then another girl pops out, Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's an older teen Vibe, and so she's in

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<v Speaker 2>the room and she's protecting a baby. There's a fresh

1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:33.680
<v Speaker 2>ass baby in a diaper in the other room of

1:07:33.720 --> 1:07:38.120
<v Speaker 2>the hotel motel. So then the three girls have to

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<v Speaker 2>care for this baby in the motel room. And I

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<v Speaker 2>hope we get these girls a better home soon, and

1:07:43.200 --> 1:07:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I just like, it's so sad that they're all so unwanted.

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<v Speaker 2>So then Finn is yelling at the motel desk clerk

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<v Speaker 2>like you're not being helpful. Tell us who this fucking

1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:54.360
<v Speaker 2>big ass dude is. So we find out the wife

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<v Speaker 2>took the van in the afternoon and then when the

1:07:56.560 --> 1:07:59.320
<v Speaker 2>sun went down, he left with the boy. So then

1:07:59.440 --> 1:08:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Benson gives the baby off to a ACS worker and

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<v Speaker 2>then Benson looks off into the distance and the girls

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<v Speaker 2>don't get out very often and they need to be

1:08:08.320 --> 1:08:11.560
<v Speaker 2>kept a secret. And so Caitlin's on the bed and

1:08:11.600 --> 1:08:14.160
<v Speaker 2>she's like, yeah, it's always don't go near the window,

1:08:14.720 --> 1:08:17.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, She's haunted by the direction stay inside Kitlyn,

1:08:17.400 --> 1:08:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Stay inside Kaitlin. So she's very obsessed about it. But

1:08:20.479 --> 1:08:24.040
<v Speaker 2>she aged out of webcaming, so now the young kids

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<v Speaker 2>do it. But Nikki's not a good listener, so he

1:08:26.760 --> 1:08:29.559
<v Speaker 2>hasn't done any videos yet. And the baby is not

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<v Speaker 2>on camera at all. And Roger brought him home as

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<v Speaker 2>a Christmas present to Alex and it made her really happy.

1:08:35.680 --> 1:08:38.320
<v Speaker 2>And Benson's like really pissed now, and so she's in

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<v Speaker 2>the box with the Patricia cat and she's just like bitch,

1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:44.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, and she's like whatever nobody wanted them, And

1:08:44.520 --> 1:08:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Benson is like, including this baby. You really think someone

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<v Speaker 2>handed their infant over to a stranger in a wheelchair?

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<v Speaker 3>Again, just yeah, fucked. So she's said, but I get

1:08:56.040 --> 1:08:56.400
<v Speaker 3>in the.

1:08:56.320 --> 1:08:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Context of this, but like it is just but it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys look crazy.

1:09:00.360 --> 1:09:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Wheelchair or no wheelchair, you look insane. You are insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we don't need to even bring up the wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 2>She says that Roger said he found the baby at

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<v Speaker 2>a train station bathroom and she didn't ask any questions,

1:09:12.120 --> 1:09:15.200
<v Speaker 2>and Benson is disgusted with her. He wasn't gonna be

1:09:15.280 --> 1:09:18.160
<v Speaker 2>like the other ones. She said CJ was my baby.

1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Knock knock rollins needs Benson. She takes back the photo

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<v Speaker 2>of the baby and walks out the room. Finn and

1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow found a witness who saw Nikki get on a

1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:29.760
<v Speaker 2>bus to the airport, so they're rushing, so they're gonna

1:09:29.800 --> 1:09:32.040
<v Speaker 2>leave the bitch tarat and they're off to JFK and

1:09:32.080 --> 1:09:34.160
<v Speaker 2>they're handing out flyers at the airport for the boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to be able to help an investigation while

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at one of my favorite places, the airport, I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot like, if I gotta help us find this baby

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<v Speaker 2>while I was in the lounge, I would suit up.

1:09:46.200 --> 1:09:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I would start searching. I would get so involved. But

1:09:51.760 --> 1:09:55.840
<v Speaker 2>nobody has seen him, unfortunately, and so Amorro's like with

1:09:55.920 --> 1:09:58.519
<v Speaker 2>the secret camera security crew and we have a spotting

1:09:58.560 --> 1:10:01.080
<v Speaker 2>of him a half hour ago. Oh, but there's no

1:10:01.160 --> 1:10:04.000
<v Speaker 2>tickets for Roger or any of his aliases, so it's

1:10:04.040 --> 1:10:07.080
<v Speaker 2>really hard to get past TSA without like a boarding pass.

1:10:07.439 --> 1:10:09.400
<v Speaker 2>We also haven't seen a man in a wheelchair with

1:10:09.439 --> 1:10:11.760
<v Speaker 2>a boy. But then Amorro sees something. He's like, hold up,

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<v Speaker 2>roll it back, so they zoom zoom zoom and into

1:10:14.600 --> 1:10:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom, like a wheelchair goes in, but Nicki was

1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:20.360
<v Speaker 2>not with him, so they rushed to that bathroom and

1:10:20.400 --> 1:10:23.320
<v Speaker 2>they find the wheelchair, but nobody in it. So now

1:10:23.360 --> 1:10:26.400
<v Speaker 2>we're back with Patricia Keat and Benson is smug and

1:10:26.479 --> 1:10:29.439
<v Speaker 2>she says nothing, but then shows her an iPad with

1:10:29.479 --> 1:10:31.840
<v Speaker 2>the security footage from the airport and what do we

1:10:31.920 --> 1:10:36.960
<v Speaker 2>see this motherfucker walking. He's in a beanie and he

1:10:37.080 --> 1:10:39.920
<v Speaker 2>is walking out the airport and she screams that son

1:10:40.000 --> 1:10:43.519
<v Speaker 2>of a bitch can walk and PIPA's like, oh, you

1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:47.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't know. She goes I've never seen him take a step.

1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:51.040
<v Speaker 2>He made me do everything, and Benson is one track mine.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like the boy, the boy, what would you do

1:10:52.800 --> 1:10:55.200
<v Speaker 2>with Nicki? Where would you leave Nicki? Does he have

1:10:55.200 --> 1:10:57.519
<v Speaker 2>an accomplice? And she's like, I don't even know that

1:10:57.600 --> 1:11:01.400
<v Speaker 2>man anymore. And it's like, oh yeah, a child pornographer,

1:11:01.439 --> 1:11:06.200
<v Speaker 2>gift grifter faked being in a wheelchair, so shocking, Like

1:11:07.040 --> 1:11:11.280
<v Speaker 2>she's acting like he's been this great guy, but now

1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:13.799
<v Speaker 2>it's gone too far. It's like the people who decide

1:11:13.840 --> 1:11:15.880
<v Speaker 2>not to vote for Trump for like the dumbest reason

1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:18.680
<v Speaker 2>eight years in you know what I mean? So she

1:11:18.800 --> 1:11:21.400
<v Speaker 2>screams she doesn't know what he would have done with Nikki.

1:11:21.520 --> 1:11:25.680
<v Speaker 2>She's crying, but she confirms there wouldn't be another accomplice.

1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:27.960
<v Speaker 2>It's just the two of them. They were never apart,

1:11:28.000 --> 1:11:31.600
<v Speaker 2>she goes, we were never apart. Pippa's like, girl, protect yourself.

1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Are their friends that would help him? And she responds,

1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Roger has stepped on everyone he knew to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the gutter. And I really like that line because it's

1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:43.479
<v Speaker 2>kind of like fucking your way to the middle, you know,

1:11:43.680 --> 1:11:47.400
<v Speaker 2>like I like it where you didn't even get anywhere

1:11:47.439 --> 1:11:48.720
<v Speaker 2>by being the worst piece of shit.

1:11:49.200 --> 1:11:49.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:53.599
<v Speaker 2>So, anyways, where would he go if he was in trouble?

1:11:53.720 --> 1:11:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Where what would he do? What is up?

1:11:56.479 --> 1:11:59.080
<v Speaker 2>So they go to a Chinese restaurant, which which to

1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:01.360
<v Speaker 2>me is comedy. This is a Neel Bear moment, like

1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:04.280
<v Speaker 2>where's this big wheelchair guy?

1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:05.959
<v Speaker 3>The Chinese buffet?

1:12:06.240 --> 1:12:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Like it is just so nineties? And he is ordered

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, no less than twenty dishes. This is

1:12:13.479 --> 1:12:16.360
<v Speaker 2>a full, delicious dinner for eight and there might still

1:12:16.400 --> 1:12:19.720
<v Speaker 2>be leftovers. I'm pretty I want to be there, like

1:12:19.760 --> 1:12:20.759
<v Speaker 2>the food really good.

1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:25.200
<v Speaker 3>We used a screen grab of this dinner Thanksgiving post

1:12:25.240 --> 1:12:31.040
<v Speaker 3>one year. We did. We absolutely did. I just love it.

1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:35.360
<v Speaker 2>And like the server tells on him immediately, like I've

1:12:35.400 --> 1:12:37.719
<v Speaker 2>never seen someone just point to a man so fast.

1:12:38.280 --> 1:12:40.640
<v Speaker 2>They probably hate his ass. He is Homer Simpson but

1:12:40.920 --> 1:12:44.320
<v Speaker 2>with worse but like in terms of food, like this

1:12:44.360 --> 1:12:47.280
<v Speaker 2>is a Homer Simpson episode where he goes to All

1:12:47.320 --> 1:12:49.879
<v Speaker 2>you Can Eat seafood and then like bankrupts the restaurant.

1:12:50.000 --> 1:12:53.400
<v Speaker 2>So he's chewing on his way out. He's sticking ribs

1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:55.479
<v Speaker 2>in his mouth. He like is trying to escape to

1:12:55.520 --> 1:12:58.800
<v Speaker 2>grab more bites as he's being carried out, like he's like, what,

1:12:58.920 --> 1:13:02.639
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna leave the He like cannot believe they're gonna

1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:03.280
<v Speaker 2>waste the food.

1:13:03.520 --> 1:13:05.479
<v Speaker 3>He's like, at least let me finish dinner.

1:13:06.040 --> 1:13:08.920
<v Speaker 2>But they drag his ass out as he is chewing

1:13:08.960 --> 1:13:11.839
<v Speaker 2>like a lama on a rib and they start questioning

1:13:11.920 --> 1:13:14.559
<v Speaker 2>him and he keeps denying knowing where Nikki, who Nikki

1:13:14.640 --> 1:13:17.920
<v Speaker 2>even is. He's like, deny, deny, deny, and they're like, fuck,

1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:20.720
<v Speaker 2>we hate you so and they're like and we know

1:13:20.800 --> 1:13:22.960
<v Speaker 2>you can walk, so shut up, you liar, and he's

1:13:23.000 --> 1:13:26.080
<v Speaker 2>like whatever, it's the best you can park anywhere. And

1:13:26.120 --> 1:13:30.240
<v Speaker 2>your girl gives you spongebats, and that's twisted.

1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:33.240
<v Speaker 3>This guy is twisted. But then he has a good point.

1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:35.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, the people that gave him away one

1:13:35.280 --> 1:13:39.479
<v Speaker 2>and back okay, And Tomorrow says, Alexa gave you up, babe,

1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:40.040
<v Speaker 2>You're done.

1:13:40.160 --> 1:13:42.120
<v Speaker 3>She turned on you. He goes, no way, She's loyal

1:13:42.160 --> 1:13:42.479
<v Speaker 3>as hell.

1:13:42.800 --> 1:13:44.439
<v Speaker 2>And then they show him the photo of him walking

1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:47.639
<v Speaker 2>at the airport and he goes, ah, man, you showed

1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:54.840
<v Speaker 2>that to her. Yeah, there's no bro code, man, no

1:13:55.120 --> 1:13:58.400
<v Speaker 2>thin blue line is not for you, honey. Tomorrow says,

1:13:58.600 --> 1:14:01.439
<v Speaker 2>last chance, tell us where he is to avoid getting

1:14:01.439 --> 1:14:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the pedo charge while you're in jail. And he's still

1:14:04.360 --> 1:14:07.320
<v Speaker 2>not being helpful, which is tough because no one wants

1:14:07.320 --> 1:14:10.320
<v Speaker 2>to be a pedophile in jail. But he's like, listen,

1:14:10.360 --> 1:14:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I gave him some juice to chill him out, and

1:14:11.960 --> 1:14:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I dumped him off at a donut place, and that

1:14:14.360 --> 1:14:17.280
<v Speaker 2>kid is a pain in the ass, and I just

1:14:17.360 --> 1:14:20.920
<v Speaker 2>love that, even like famed child pornographers like nah, man,

1:14:21.280 --> 1:14:24.679
<v Speaker 2>like that kid's a mess. So they and by famed,

1:14:24.680 --> 1:14:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean in the bad way. I'm not like pro

1:14:26.360 --> 1:14:30.040
<v Speaker 2>this guy clearly. Yeah, they're back at the airport and

1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the security is telling Rollins and Benson like, we looked

1:14:32.920 --> 1:14:36.040
<v Speaker 2>everywhere and we cannot find him. Then it clicks like

1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:39.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe he went on a plane that reminded him of home.

1:14:39.320 --> 1:14:42.200
<v Speaker 2>And I love this kind of little gameplay. There is

1:14:42.200 --> 1:14:45.080
<v Speaker 2>a flight to Georgia and the worker's like, oh, this

1:14:45.120 --> 1:14:46.519
<v Speaker 2>is a domestic terminal.

1:14:46.560 --> 1:14:48.800
<v Speaker 3>It's like Atlanta. He's a kid, he wouldn't know.

1:14:50.200 --> 1:14:52.720
<v Speaker 2>So they run to the flight that's supposed to be

1:14:52.760 --> 1:14:55.040
<v Speaker 2>going to Georgia. They rush up and down the floor,

1:14:55.120 --> 1:14:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, the aisles, They check the closet, the bathroom's locked.

1:14:57.920 --> 1:14:59.720
<v Speaker 2>They make the flight attendant open it. I love the

1:14:59.720 --> 1:15:03.280
<v Speaker 2>way she opens it. It's fucking hot, and the kids

1:15:03.320 --> 1:15:06.120
<v Speaker 2>passed out. Hold They're like, is there a doctors? They're

1:15:06.120 --> 1:15:09.280
<v Speaker 2>insolent on board. Oh my god, but the kids okay.

1:15:09.360 --> 1:15:12.799
<v Speaker 2>We're at the hospital. Benson is greeting Lisa and Nobel

1:15:12.840 --> 1:15:15.559
<v Speaker 2>Prize dad, and Benson lets them know like he's been

1:15:15.600 --> 1:15:18.280
<v Speaker 2>through a lot, but you know you can see him,

1:15:18.320 --> 1:15:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and the dad's like, I'm gonna go in there first,

1:15:20.560 --> 1:15:23.240
<v Speaker 2>and Benson and Lisa are left together. She goes, I

1:15:23.320 --> 1:15:25.679
<v Speaker 2>know what you're thinking, but I was having a breakdown,

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<v Speaker 2>and Benson goes, so you call someone or you ask

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<v Speaker 2>for help. You don't just discard a child. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know how lucky that Nikki is alive and unharmed? And

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<v Speaker 2>also it's like there is trauma, I'm sure, but like

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<v Speaker 2>with what he's already been through, is it just a

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<v Speaker 2>drop in the bucket? Like, how does added trauma compound

1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:47.280
<v Speaker 2>on itself versus just this is life? I am very

1:15:47.320 --> 1:15:50.799
<v Speaker 2>curious that, Like, I mean, this is how those Sibyl

1:15:50.880 --> 1:15:55.040
<v Speaker 2>characters come to light. You know, yeah, so much abuse,

1:15:55.120 --> 1:15:56.639
<v Speaker 2>you just keep shattering and chattering.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not seen that movie, you.

1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Know, neither I knew people that watched it in school.

1:16:01.400 --> 1:16:04.800
<v Speaker 1>They used to show it in school for like like

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<v Speaker 1>say Ecology, not Sybil. The other one with the guy

1:16:08.280 --> 1:16:11.600
<v Speaker 1>James McAvoy. Have you seen that one?

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<v Speaker 3>Split?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually watched that movie, and I don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>watch scary movies, but that one fucked me up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yuh, it's not as way Betty Buckley's in it.

1:16:21.320 --> 1:16:22.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh I don't remember her.

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<v Speaker 2>So then Benson goes. Honestly, if there were any better

1:16:26.120 --> 1:16:28.320
<v Speaker 2>options for him, I would recommend that you never fucking

1:16:28.320 --> 1:16:30.200
<v Speaker 2>have him back in your life. And she walks off

1:16:30.280 --> 1:16:32.880
<v Speaker 2>like Lisa, you do not get sympathy from Benson here.

1:16:33.320 --> 1:16:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Lisa yell's it's gonna be different this time, and Benson,

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<v Speaker 2>without even looking at her, goes, I hope so, but

1:16:39.120 --> 1:16:42.360
<v Speaker 2>he's so happy to see daddy, and you know, he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I got you, and they're hugging and hopefully this kid

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<v Speaker 2>can get it together, and Dad is like, let's try

1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:51.000
<v Speaker 2>this again. Lisa walks in and Nikki looks at her.

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<v Speaker 2>They look at each other and nothing is said, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he will strangle her to death one day,

1:16:57.280 --> 1:17:00.519
<v Speaker 2>So Hank or not okay. So then hey, Pipa and

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<v Speaker 2>Benson do a hospital walk and talk and he's like, hell, yeah,

1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:05.559
<v Speaker 2>way to go. You rescue the girls and the baby.

1:17:05.600 --> 1:17:07.400
<v Speaker 2>The mayor wants you to do a press conference. You're

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<v Speaker 2>getting awards, you're getting attention, and they're like, babe, we

1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:12.880
<v Speaker 2>have work to do, so send our regards to the

1:17:12.920 --> 1:17:16.639
<v Speaker 2>fucking mayor. So they still have to go charge Roger

1:17:16.640 --> 1:17:18.320
<v Speaker 2>and Alexa and make sure they go away for a

1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:20.479
<v Speaker 2>long time. They also have to find the parents of

1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the other kids. Nobody has come forward yet. Hank is

1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:26.320
<v Speaker 2>so upset by this, he's grossed out, even though he

1:17:26.360 --> 1:17:31.120
<v Speaker 2>probably has a membership to their streaming channel, and he's like,

1:17:31.200 --> 1:17:33.640
<v Speaker 2>what's wrong with people? I don't know, ask yourself that

1:17:33.680 --> 1:17:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Hank Abraham future pedophile. But they're gonna mention the missing

1:17:37.880 --> 1:17:40.880
<v Speaker 2>kids in the press conference. So they're at family Court

1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:44.880
<v Speaker 2>discussing baby boy Dough. Three girls went into foster care

1:17:44.880 --> 1:17:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and are waiting permanent placement, but nobody has claimed the baby.

1:17:48.280 --> 1:17:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Even with all the press coverage, there's no records of

1:17:50.720 --> 1:17:53.719
<v Speaker 2>this baby anywhere. There's no matches. So then the judge

1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:56.439
<v Speaker 2>played by Jane how to show a beloved actress as

1:17:56.520 --> 1:17:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Jude as Judge Ruth Lindon.

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<v Speaker 3>She goes, it's try.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody wants this baby in a time where so many

1:18:02.360 --> 1:18:04.680
<v Speaker 2>people yearn to have a child. But you know, this

1:18:04.840 --> 1:18:08.559
<v Speaker 2>kid is unclaimed and a destitute child, so the baby

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<v Speaker 2>will stay in child services until efforts to find someone

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of the baby come up.

1:18:13.160 --> 1:18:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Then it's like the.

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok noise from the beginning of the episode happens, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, Benson is just staring off sad listening

1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:22.759
<v Speaker 2>to this baby news dick Wolf, baby, I am done talking,

1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Get to the ads, get to the ad.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's but that's baby Noah, This baby is baby Noah.

1:18:28.040 --> 1:18:31.919
<v Speaker 1>We find we find out later, So this is technically

1:18:32.000 --> 1:18:32.920
<v Speaker 1>his first appearance.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he can do us good?

1:18:34.439 --> 1:18:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Because you also mentioned Wednesday's child is a fortune telling thing,

1:18:38.280 --> 1:18:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like this episode is a fortune telling

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<v Speaker 2>to her getting Noah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, she's having this dream. It's like a fresh test.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, enjoy our advertisements and we shall return shortly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. So this is based on a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different things. One is specific, one is more overarching. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get into the specific case first. This is based

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<v Speaker 1>on a case of Sky Metalwala, who was two years

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<v Speaker 1>old when he disappeared from the area of Bellevue, Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think it's like outside of Seattle.

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<v Speaker 3>His mother, Julia.

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<v Speaker 1>Biryukhova, was a Ukrainian immigrant and a stay at home mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said she was taking Sky, who was sick,

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<v Speaker 1>to the hospital, along with her daughter, Miley, who was

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<v Speaker 1>aged four. Julia said her car ran out of gas

1:19:38.840 --> 1:19:42.240
<v Speaker 1>and then wildly she pulls over because her car runs

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<v Speaker 1>out of gas, takes her four year old daughter, but

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<v Speaker 1>not her two year old Sky to go find help

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<v Speaker 1>in what world. Conflicting reports, Some say she was gone

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<v Speaker 1>for two and a half hours. Some say she was

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<v Speaker 1>gone for an hour an hour and a half, but

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<v Speaker 1>when she returned to her car, Sky was gone. She

1:19:57.560 --> 1:20:01.600
<v Speaker 1>left him strapped in to It's so fucked up. He

1:20:01.800 --> 1:20:04.679
<v Speaker 1>was never found. He would be thirteen years old today.

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<v Speaker 1>No one has any idea where Sky Metalwala is mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's horrible. But the cops found out later

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<v Speaker 1>that her story did not add up. The car had

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<v Speaker 1>so like not an immigrant name at all, Like to

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<v Speaker 1>have a Ukrainian kid named Sky is very yeah, and

1:20:20.360 --> 1:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>his dad is a Pakistani immigrant, so it's like it

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of maybe they just were like, let's agree

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<v Speaker 1>on something super American and like modern, so American.

1:20:28.800 --> 1:20:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Modern la like Sky is such a like TV name.

1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:36.519
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, obviously this is this is horrible. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>happened in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>The cops though, found out, what's up, girl, Your car

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<v Speaker 1>had gas in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Your car was working fine, so what's the story.

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<v Speaker 1>She also left the house to take her kid to

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital because he was allegedly sick. No wallet, no purse,

1:20:49.720 --> 1:20:53.120
<v Speaker 1>no phone on her She apparently wandered through all these

1:20:53.120 --> 1:20:55.200
<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods on her way to go get the gas, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>never found, never asked anyone for help. No one reported like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, we saw this woman and her daughter looking

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<v Speaker 1>for help. When she got to a gas station, she

1:21:02.200 --> 1:21:03.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't even get gas. She called a friend to come

1:21:03.960 --> 1:21:05.360
<v Speaker 1>pick her up and drive her back to the car,

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<v Speaker 1>which is when she found that Skuy was missing. They

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<v Speaker 1>also noticed that her account of events Buckle Up Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>was very similar to an episode of Law and Order

1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:19.040
<v Speaker 1>SVU that ran in the Seattle area the evening before

1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:22.839
<v Speaker 1>Sky's disappearance. The episode in question is called Missing Pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from season thirteen. Do you remember it. It's where

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<v Speaker 1>a couple from Buffalo comes down. They say that the

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<v Speaker 1>car got stolen with the baby in it, but it

1:21:29.320 --> 1:21:32.599
<v Speaker 1>turns out their baby had died of SIDS. They thought

1:21:32.640 --> 1:21:34.599
<v Speaker 1>they'd killed the baby, so they'd buried it and then

1:21:34.640 --> 1:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>created this whole kidnapping story so that they wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>So the mom I want to get on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>because she is from Insecure.

1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:46.439
<v Speaker 3>She's the camp gotcha or like oh yeah, we got

1:21:47.040 --> 1:21:48.080
<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also an avatar, yes, not in a couple other episodes

1:21:53.040 --> 1:21:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she's in the episode Avatar.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's also in the episode recently where she meets

1:21:58.720 --> 1:22:01.240
<v Speaker 1>her like daughter, she gave way for adoption like later

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<v Speaker 1>in life.

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<v Speaker 3>So I forgot about that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But I cannot all star Lisa Joyce is her name,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I'm right, I just came up with that

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<v Speaker 1>out of my fucking head, which is nuts.

1:22:11.400 --> 1:22:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I cannot believe that SVU gave this woman the idea

1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:17.680
<v Speaker 2>of how to try to get it. But also they

1:22:17.680 --> 1:22:21.240
<v Speaker 2>get caught in the episode. Yeah, not the episode to

1:22:21.560 --> 1:22:23.720
<v Speaker 2>use when they get caught, like she didn't catch the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the episode, but she.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't get caught, like, she doesn't get caught, Like what

1:22:28.800 --> 1:22:30.840
<v Speaker 3>happened to this kid? Like no one fucking knows.

1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:35.360
<v Speaker 1>So the dad is Solomon Metalwalla Sky's father Julia's. At

1:22:35.360 --> 1:22:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the time, they are estranged and they're going they're in

1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the process of getting divorced, and he said through his

1:22:41.760 --> 1:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>attorney that Law and Order was one of his wife's

1:22:43.880 --> 1:22:46.519
<v Speaker 1>favorite shows. So this is like where it's all kind

1:22:46.560 --> 1:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>of getting like come together. So Julia and Solomon and Solomon,

1:22:50.320 --> 1:22:52.120
<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned as a Pakistani immigrant, were in the

1:22:52.160 --> 1:22:54.439
<v Speaker 1>midst of a divorce and custody dispute when this all

1:22:54.479 --> 1:22:57.720
<v Speaker 1>went down. Police said it was a quote unquote strategic

1:22:57.800 --> 1:23:00.519
<v Speaker 1>decision not to charge Julia with child and day for

1:23:00.600 --> 1:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>abandoning her son on the side of the fucking road,

1:23:03.320 --> 1:23:05.200
<v Speaker 1>because they wanted to try to get more out of her.

1:23:05.360 --> 1:23:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Like I think it's kind of like putting that woman

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<v Speaker 1>in the box with her husband to try to see if, like, well,

1:23:10.640 --> 1:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>we can find out where Nikki is.

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<v Speaker 3>So meanwhile, a couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Years earlier, this couple, Solomon and Julia, left Sky only

1:23:19.160 --> 1:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>two months old, in a car at Target while they

1:23:21.640 --> 1:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>went inside for almost an hour and it was twenty

1:23:24.040 --> 1:23:26.120
<v Speaker 1>seven degrees out. They said they were in there for

1:23:26.160 --> 1:23:27.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes and they didn't want to wake him up,

1:23:27.600 --> 1:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>but the store camera footage obviously busted them, and it

1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>was close to an hour. And it's like, I've been

1:23:31.960 --> 1:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>there where you want to like go run inside and

1:23:34.040 --> 1:23:36.160
<v Speaker 1>grab something, but you like cannot leave your kids in

1:23:36.200 --> 1:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the car. Like there's actually a full article about this

1:23:40.040 --> 1:23:43.639
<v Speaker 1>woman who went through this full this nightmare. I'll google

1:23:43.680 --> 1:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it and try to send it to Casey to put

1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:47.640
<v Speaker 1>into our show notes. But this woman ran into a

1:23:47.680 --> 1:23:49.719
<v Speaker 1>store to get headphones. She was in a radio shock

1:23:49.800 --> 1:23:52.160
<v Speaker 1>for like five minutes. Someone reported that she left her

1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:54.599
<v Speaker 1>kid in the car. I think she left a window open,

1:23:54.640 --> 1:23:57.439
<v Speaker 1>it was locked, like whatever, but like she lost custody

1:23:57.479 --> 1:23:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of her kids. I think she went through a full

1:23:59.120 --> 1:24:01.519
<v Speaker 1>nightmare for leaving her kid for five minutes while she

1:24:01.600 --> 1:24:03.519
<v Speaker 1>ran into a radio shock to buy headphones. So you

1:24:03.560 --> 1:24:05.400
<v Speaker 1>just can't do it. It's like I read that story

1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>pre having kids, and it's like, you just can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So these two at that time, two years earlier, were

1:24:11.360 --> 1:24:14.400
<v Speaker 1>arrested in charge with child endangerment, but were later led

1:24:14.439 --> 1:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>off after they agreed to take parenting classes. So now,

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<v Speaker 1>the year before Sky's disappoint appearance, Julia was committed to

1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a mental health facility after telling her husband that she

1:24:24.400 --> 1:24:26.000
<v Speaker 1>had dreamed of killing the children.

1:24:26.479 --> 1:24:28.439
<v Speaker 3>She was diagnosed with severe OCD.

1:24:28.600 --> 1:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>And there's like details about how the husband had to

1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>like eat outside and sleep on the floor because she

1:24:35.000 --> 1:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>was so vigilant about keeping the house clean. And that's

1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:40.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously a result of this severe OCD that she had.

1:24:40.280 --> 1:24:43.439
<v Speaker 1>So when she was released from the hospital that time,

1:24:43.560 --> 1:24:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Solomon filed for divorce and it did get messy. She

1:24:45.920 --> 1:24:48.439
<v Speaker 1>accused him of being abusive and controlling. He said she

1:24:48.479 --> 1:24:52.679
<v Speaker 1>was unstable, which then leads us to this disappearance. Julia,

1:24:52.800 --> 1:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>they said, couldn't take a lie detector because she was

1:24:54.800 --> 1:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>too distraught, and when they asked her about all the

1:24:57.280 --> 1:24:59.599
<v Speaker 1>weird shit like the car having gas and her going

1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>to the hospit without a wallet or a purse or

1:25:01.280 --> 1:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>a phone, she pled the fifth. So the police wondered

1:25:04.320 --> 1:25:06.719
<v Speaker 1>if Sky was ever even in the car at all,

1:25:07.280 --> 1:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and motorists who saw the Accura on the side of

1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the road didn't report seeing a child or anything suspicious,

1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and people at the family's apartment complex said that Julia

1:25:16.960 --> 1:25:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and her kids did not go out much and they

1:25:18.400 --> 1:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen Sky for two weeks.

1:25:20.360 --> 1:25:23.519
<v Speaker 2>But my and if you're so ocd like, nothing is

1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:26.120
<v Speaker 2>messier than a kid, like, I wonder how that kind

1:25:26.160 --> 1:25:28.720
<v Speaker 2>of triggered in a two year old.

1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Miley, the four year old, did say Sky

1:25:33.120 --> 1:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>was in the car that day, so the four year

1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>old her account is that the kid was in the car.

1:25:37.600 --> 1:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>On her Facebook page also, Julia had posted all these

1:25:41.439 --> 1:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>pics of Miley but none of Sky. So you can

1:25:45.280 --> 1:25:47.840
<v Speaker 1>check my Instagram. There are pictures of oscar everywhere. It's

1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>not just Rosy everybody. So anyway, Miley was put into

1:25:51.120 --> 1:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>foster care after sky went missing. Custody of her was

1:25:54.720 --> 1:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>eventually granted to her father after the divorce was finalized,

1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and Julia moved on married somebody else and has a

1:26:01.400 --> 1:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>baby with them, and I think was going through some

1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:06.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of CPS thing with maybe getting her kid. That

1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>kid taken away, So I don't know there, the dad says,

1:26:09.920 --> 1:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I like to believe that he's still alive. He's somewhere,

1:26:12.360 --> 1:26:15.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, she gave him to somebody like who wanted

1:26:15.560 --> 1:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>a kid, but I don't know. They've released photos of

1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>him with age progression and he'd be thirteen right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows. But Sky Metalala never found. The episode is

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<v Speaker 3>so fucked I know, it's so fucked up. And it's like, yeah,

1:26:29.720 --> 1:26:32.320
<v Speaker 3>don't do anything based on Order and Lawn Order SVU

1:26:32.400 --> 1:26:37.559
<v Speaker 3>except for the star cups hell overware. Yeah, leaving your

1:26:37.560 --> 1:26:40.720
<v Speaker 3>headphones ducked into a car where you've been abducted to

1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:42.759
<v Speaker 3>prove that you were there, you know, that kind of stuff.

1:26:43.200 --> 1:26:46.519
<v Speaker 3>So this episode is also based, obviously in a much

1:26:46.600 --> 1:26:50.479
<v Speaker 3>larger capacity, on the practice of disrupted adoptions, which is,

1:26:51.040 --> 1:26:55.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, an adoption that ends before it's finalized, and

1:26:55.840 --> 1:27:01.760
<v Speaker 3>around the time that this episode aired, which was twenty fourteen.

1:27:02.320 --> 1:27:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Disrupted adoptions were becoming more and more commonplace in the

1:27:06.520 --> 1:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>years leading up to this episode, and this was especially

1:27:10.200 --> 1:27:14.160
<v Speaker 1>common among adoptions from Eastern European countries like Russia and Romania,

1:27:14.840 --> 1:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>where some children were traumatized in their orphanages more than

1:27:18.240 --> 1:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>their adopted parents were led to believe. What I've always

1:27:22.120 --> 1:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>heard about Russian orphanages is like they're just overcrowded and

1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of kids just don't get any physical contact,

1:27:29.080 --> 1:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I think we even had a girl

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<v Speaker 1>at camp one time who was very, very tiny, and

1:27:35.120 --> 1:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>her parents had told us that her growth was stunted

1:27:37.320 --> 1:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>because she was just not touched for the first year

1:27:39.360 --> 1:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>of her life in a Russian orphanage.

1:27:41.120 --> 1:27:42.240
<v Speaker 3>It's so wild.

1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:46.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, like all the early times matter, but

1:27:47.720 --> 1:27:51.600
<v Speaker 2>it is so overwhelming, Like how all the touch like

1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:55.919
<v Speaker 2>little things affect kids' behavior forever.

1:27:56.520 --> 1:27:58.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean I can.

1:27:58.360 --> 1:28:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Get them, but if you're not touched, sure feel love

1:28:01.160 --> 1:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>for two years, you're just whole life is fucked forever.

1:28:04.960 --> 1:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why they're like skin to skin the

1:28:07.360 --> 1:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>minute the baby comes out. They slap that little guy

1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>right on you because they want you to like be

1:28:11.439 --> 1:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>immediately start bonding with them.

1:28:13.320 --> 1:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>But it's just like not shocking. It makes sense that

1:28:17.760 --> 1:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>it would affect your growth forever, but like, yeah, you know,

1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:27.479
<v Speaker 2>it's just so important. I don't know, I'm really Yeah,

1:28:27.479 --> 1:28:29.839
<v Speaker 2>they're lying because it wasn't another episode.

1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:30.679
<v Speaker 3>Like a lot of them have.

1:28:30.760 --> 1:28:32.800
<v Speaker 2>FAS and they're not going to like tell people that

1:28:33.200 --> 1:28:35.320
<v Speaker 2>what's FAS if you alcohol syndrome?

1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh wow, I didn't even think about that.

1:28:38.080 --> 1:28:40.040
<v Speaker 3>I think that's really popular in Russia.

1:28:40.080 --> 1:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, I didn't even I don't know if popular

1:28:43.400 --> 1:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>is the right word commonplace.

1:28:45.400 --> 1:28:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know what you were saying.

1:28:48.360 --> 1:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>So just like in this episode, people do call this

1:28:51.160 --> 1:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>process rehoming, which to me, I've only ever heard rehoming

1:28:54.040 --> 1:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>talk about dogs and cats like pets, like I need

1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:58.759
<v Speaker 1>to rehome my puppy he's biting my kids or whatever.

1:28:58.960 --> 1:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't really love the sound of rehoming. But

1:29:03.439 --> 1:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of examples. In two thousand, a couple in

1:29:06.160 --> 1:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta named Jesse and Crystal Money disrupted the adoption of

1:29:10.400 --> 1:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>their nine year old daughter, Kara Lee, who they adopted

1:29:13.160 --> 1:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>from Russia, and they sent her back to her orphanage

1:29:15.360 --> 1:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>in Moscow. They said she tried to throw her adopted

1:29:18.640 --> 1:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>brother off of a thirty foot deck and they were

1:29:21.280 --> 1:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>scared for their lives. But this guy did a forty

1:29:23.880 --> 1:29:26.439
<v Speaker 1>eight hours thing about it and actually reconnected with the girl,

1:29:26.560 --> 1:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Ka Lee, who now goes by Sabrina I think, and

1:29:29.439 --> 1:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>she has like four of her own kids and a

1:29:31.640 --> 1:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>good life. And she said she was never trying to

1:29:33.720 --> 1:29:36.479
<v Speaker 1>kill her brother. She felt her parents liked the brother

1:29:36.520 --> 1:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>more than her and was probably trying to get attention.

1:29:38.360 --> 1:29:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is usually stuff like that. But then

1:29:42.080 --> 1:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>they thought they feared for their safety. They said she

1:29:44.240 --> 1:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>had like psychopathic behavior. And then in twenty ten, this

1:29:47.200 --> 1:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>is ten years later, but these are just two examples.

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<v Speaker 1>Torri Ann Hanson had adopted a little boy named Artiem Saveliev,

1:29:55.080 --> 1:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>a seven year old that she had adopted from Russia,

1:29:57.880 --> 1:30:02.439
<v Speaker 1>and she put him on a plan to Moscow, an

1:30:02.439 --> 1:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>eleven hour flight. A seven year old child gave him

1:30:06.160 --> 1:30:08.599
<v Speaker 1>a backpack with some cookies and crayons, and in it

1:30:08.600 --> 1:30:10.639
<v Speaker 1>there was a note that said I no longer wish

1:30:10.720 --> 1:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to parent this child. He is violent and has severe

1:30:14.280 --> 1:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>psychopathic issues. That's what the note says. So this case

1:30:19.320 --> 1:30:23.439
<v Speaker 1>like blew everything open, like so Torrian Hansen was later

1:30:23.560 --> 1:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>ordered to pay child support for RTM, even though he

1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>continued to live in Russia, because I think that he

1:30:29.000 --> 1:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>had been naturalized, he had been gotten American citizenship, so

1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>he was an American even though he's living in Russia.

1:30:34.439 --> 1:30:35.400
<v Speaker 3>You got to pay for your kid.

1:30:35.880 --> 1:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>This case kicked off a ton of scrutiny about the

1:30:38.240 --> 1:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>international adoption process and Russia's orphan crisis.

1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:42.120
<v Speaker 3>There was a.

1:30:42.040 --> 1:30:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Woman on the Parliamentary Committee of Family and Children named

1:30:46.840 --> 1:30:50.479
<v Speaker 1>Yelena B. Missolina, and she said in twenty ten around

1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:53.799
<v Speaker 1>this time, that Russia had more than seven hundred thousand orphans,

1:30:54.320 --> 1:30:57.519
<v Speaker 1>which is more orphans than at the end of World

1:30:57.600 --> 1:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>War Two, when twenty five million Soviets had been killed.

1:31:00.960 --> 1:31:03.479
<v Speaker 1>So you would expect an event like that to leave

1:31:03.479 --> 1:31:05.599
<v Speaker 1>a ton of orphans, but in the twenty tens there

1:31:05.640 --> 1:31:08.799
<v Speaker 1>were even more. So she said that even though Russia

1:31:08.920 --> 1:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>was like hating on the US a lot after this

1:31:11.160 --> 1:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>big returning the child case, which I don't agree with,

1:31:13.800 --> 1:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>it's terrible. They had huge internal problems in the country,

1:31:17.400 --> 1:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>like thirty thousand kids in the last three years within

1:31:20.400 --> 1:31:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Russia were sent back to institutions by their adoptive foster

1:31:23.680 --> 1:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>or guardianship families. So like she's calling it a humanitarian

1:31:28.120 --> 1:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>catastrophe according to the New York Times and percent.

1:31:31.160 --> 1:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>My question is, so it's happening in Russia more than

1:31:34.640 --> 1:31:35.599
<v Speaker 2>anywhere else.

1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, Well, the percentage of orphans is four to

1:31:38.720 --> 1:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>five times higher in Russia than in Europe or the US.

1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>That number is as of I believe twenty ten. And

1:31:45.360 --> 1:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>of that high number of orphans, thirty percent of them

1:31:48.160 --> 1:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>live in orphanages.

1:31:49.600 --> 1:31:51.640
<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting because I'm trying to think of the

1:31:51.680 --> 1:31:55.439
<v Speaker 2>cultural stuff because it's like because it's higher numbers of

1:31:55.479 --> 1:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>people being brought back too. So I wonder if the

1:31:58.000 --> 1:32:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Russians are more secretive than all the other countries or

1:32:01.880 --> 1:32:04.760
<v Speaker 2>if this happens everywhere. But also like there is just

1:32:04.800 --> 1:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>a nature of secretism where like you're not supposed to

1:32:09.320 --> 1:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>admit if your child has problems. You know, it's about

1:32:13.120 --> 1:32:15.080
<v Speaker 2>like lying you don't want the neighbors to know. I

1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:17.599
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's communism effect, but there is a

1:32:17.640 --> 1:32:19.840
<v Speaker 2>thing of like God for there's just more.

1:32:21.240 --> 1:32:23.559
<v Speaker 3>Secrecy shame to these things.

1:32:24.400 --> 1:32:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I didn't even come across the fetal alcohol

1:32:26.680 --> 1:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>syndrome thing, but that's a really good point, because I

1:32:28.680 --> 1:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's an issue you know over there. But

1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the other thing is because they're you're encouraged, like if

1:32:35.240 --> 1:32:38.639
<v Speaker 1>you have a baby that has issues, like no one

1:32:38.640 --> 1:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>will judge you for dropping off a child with down

1:32:41.000 --> 1:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>syndrome like I do. I mean, I'm speaking so generally

1:32:44.520 --> 1:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>in like of the culture, but there's good people everywhere.

1:32:48.400 --> 1:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>But there's got to be a reason why the numbers

1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>are more all.

1:32:52.080 --> 1:32:52.760
<v Speaker 3>The other reason.

1:32:52.840 --> 1:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>The other thing is is experts say that a lot

1:32:56.400 --> 1:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>of these kids are kept in these massive orphanages that

1:32:58.720 --> 1:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>are like warehouses, and they're calling they call it warehousing

1:33:01.479 --> 1:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>young kids, and that being in that huge facility like

1:33:05.240 --> 1:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>that also stunts their social and intellectual development. There's also

1:33:09.800 --> 1:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>an article that I put in my sources from the

1:33:11.400 --> 1:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>New York Times about this amazing orphanage where the kids

1:33:14.080 --> 1:33:17.719
<v Speaker 1>get there's so many toys, the kids get fed great,

1:33:17.880 --> 1:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>they love it, but nobody's adopting them. They're all like

1:33:21.120 --> 1:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>five or seven and above. And like they said, there

1:33:24.000 --> 1:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>was something in the article like over the past year,

1:33:26.320 --> 1:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>one kid had been adopted. So it's like they're they're

1:33:28.840 --> 1:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty happy at this orphanage, but like no one is

1:33:31.400 --> 1:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>adopting them. So maybe there's a stigma to adopting an

1:33:34.920 --> 1:33:37.559
<v Speaker 1>older child, you know, like and not a baby.

1:33:37.760 --> 1:33:39.120
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

1:33:39.560 --> 1:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>But in the US, the cultural goal is to reunite families,

1:33:44.479 --> 1:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and in Russia that's not really the goal. Like, you know,

1:33:46.840 --> 1:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I've worked with foster children, and like you really want

1:33:49.800 --> 1:33:52.759
<v Speaker 1>to find any relative that will take a child before

1:33:52.800 --> 1:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you will send you want to send them to just

1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:58.599
<v Speaker 1>a foster parent, so or someone that's not blood related

1:33:58.600 --> 1:34:01.439
<v Speaker 1>to them, excuse me. And when people lose their kids, yes,

1:34:01.479 --> 1:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the system can be fucked up, but there is a

1:34:03.800 --> 1:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>path to getting your child back, and that is what

1:34:05.800 --> 1:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the government wants to happen. I don't know if that's

1:34:07.840 --> 1:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the case. Apparently it's also boils down to money. The

1:34:11.240 --> 1:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Russian government spends roughly three billion dollars annually on orphanages

1:34:16.600 --> 1:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and as of twenty ten, and similar facilities, which is

1:34:19.960 --> 1:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>jobs money on a regional level, plenty of opportunity for

1:34:23.640 --> 1:34:27.439
<v Speaker 1>corruption and theft. So it's thought that to keep this

1:34:27.520 --> 1:34:30.479
<v Speaker 1>system running and keep this system profitable, they have to

1:34:30.520 --> 1:34:32.599
<v Speaker 1>have a flow of children coming in. It's a way

1:34:32.640 --> 1:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that we handle prisons in our country, truly, like prisons

1:34:36.080 --> 1:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>are for profit prisons are you know, like we got

1:34:39.040 --> 1:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to keep people getting busted on small drug charges so

1:34:42.120 --> 1:34:44.439
<v Speaker 1>we can keep these fucking prisons full. And then so

1:34:44.479 --> 1:34:47.519
<v Speaker 1>there's these flow of children's, these orphanages, and then it's

1:34:47.600 --> 1:34:50.479
<v Speaker 1>so hard to even adopt them, like you were saying

1:34:50.600 --> 1:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>in before, like the process, the bureaucracy, like when adoptions

1:34:54.560 --> 1:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>were permitted in Russia from the US, families especially from

1:34:58.400 --> 1:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>foreign countries, have to pay these huge sums of money

1:35:00.760 --> 1:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>just to get through all the bureaucracy. So they're not

1:35:02.439 --> 1:35:07.240
<v Speaker 1>even making it easy to solve their orphan problem. And

1:35:07.439 --> 1:35:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Russian officials, which I read, seem embarrassed that their country

1:35:11.800 --> 1:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>has this orphan problem and has to actually give them

1:35:15.320 --> 1:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>two foreigners. They got a temporary suspension of all Russian

1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>adoptions to the US as a result of the RTM case,

1:35:23.080 --> 1:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the case where the little boy was sent back to Moscow,

1:35:25.520 --> 1:35:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and then that was in twenty ten. In twenty twelve,

1:35:28.800 --> 1:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>putin signed into law a complete ban of US adoptions

1:35:33.600 --> 1:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of Russian children that went into effect on January first

1:35:36.439 --> 1:35:41.559
<v Speaker 1>of twenty thirteen. So if you remember, during the Trump years,

1:35:41.720 --> 1:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone kept saying, oh, we're Donald Trump Junior or Eric

1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Trump is trying to bring adoption to the table with Russia,

1:35:47.520 --> 1:35:50.519
<v Speaker 1>like the adoption issue, the adoption issue, and it's like

1:35:50.920 --> 1:35:53.519
<v Speaker 1>the adoption issue is not really about kids, like because

1:35:53.560 --> 1:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>this band that Putin signed has been viewed as a retaliatory,

1:35:58.680 --> 1:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>like it has a retaliatory function against the US that's

1:36:01.760 --> 1:36:04.280
<v Speaker 1>to get back at them for putting sanctions on Russia

1:36:04.880 --> 1:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>because of their human rights abuses. So every time adoption

1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>comes up in these elections with Russia, it's like a

1:36:12.680 --> 1:36:15.679
<v Speaker 1>political dog whistle, Like it's really just like Russia wants

1:36:15.680 --> 1:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>their sanctions lifted.

1:36:16.960 --> 1:36:18.640
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, yeah, we're happy to put adoption on

1:36:18.680 --> 1:36:19.440
<v Speaker 3>the table.

1:36:19.160 --> 1:36:21.479
<v Speaker 1>But it's like you don't care about actually getting kids

1:36:22.200 --> 1:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>good homes. You just care about getting your sanctions lifted.

1:36:24.840 --> 1:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>At least the Putin part of it.

1:36:26.120 --> 1:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not speaking to you, yeah, because if you have

1:36:29.080 --> 1:36:32.320
<v Speaker 2>like all of these orphans, like why wouldn't you want

1:36:32.320 --> 1:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>them in homes? But like, also, honestly, I don't hate

1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:37.519
<v Speaker 2>that mom that at least put them on a plane

1:36:37.520 --> 1:36:41.160
<v Speaker 2>with a snack in a note, Like it's not as

1:36:41.840 --> 1:36:46.120
<v Speaker 2>bad is selling them to some underground thing. Sure, sure,

1:36:46.439 --> 1:36:49.400
<v Speaker 2>which I mean that obviously damaging a fucked. But I'm like,

1:36:49.479 --> 1:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what, Yeah, if you get a kid and

1:36:53.040 --> 1:36:55.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like the omen, I don't know, just like yeah,

1:36:55.920 --> 1:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>little Damien trial that's trying to kill your other kids.

1:36:59.080 --> 1:37:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I I it's tough. It's tough, but it's also like,

1:37:03.640 --> 1:37:05.439
<v Speaker 2>why are you adopting You think these kids are just

1:37:05.439 --> 1:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>going to be chill out on a seesaw having a

1:37:08.000 --> 1:37:10.800
<v Speaker 2>good time, Like, yeah, they have trauma.

1:37:11.080 --> 1:37:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

1:37:11.920 --> 1:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of the a lot, I

1:37:14.000 --> 1:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of the real there is not a

1:37:18.120 --> 1:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of research. Basically, there's not a lot of data

1:37:20.400 --> 1:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>because adoptions are private most of the time, like even

1:37:23.120 --> 1:37:25.479
<v Speaker 1>the public ones. It's like the disruptions are not always

1:37:26.040 --> 1:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>like recorded. It's like it's really hard to get data

1:37:29.040 --> 1:37:32.879
<v Speaker 1>on this. Anecdotally, I've heard from people who are teachers

1:37:32.920 --> 1:37:35.839
<v Speaker 1>in schools or work with children that they've had issues

1:37:35.840 --> 1:37:38.679
<v Speaker 1>with some kids that have been adopted from Russia after

1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>long stays and orphanages because they are traumatized, you know.

1:37:42.640 --> 1:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I think parents want a white kid and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they go to Russia, and you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not prepared for all of the all of the issues.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also a little thing in the research I

1:37:56.080 --> 1:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>was doing about this YouTube couple who rehomed quote unquote

1:37:59.320 --> 1:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>their kid or it turned out he had autism. But

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<v Speaker 1>before that, they made like a million episodes of content

1:38:05.600 --> 1:38:08.800
<v Speaker 1>about getting their miracle baby and their their journey to

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<v Speaker 1>adoption and stuff like that, and then they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just like when the kid had problems, they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a good fit and they moved them on.

1:38:15.240 --> 1:38:19.760
<v Speaker 1>So I obviously can't speak to what people's capacity is.

1:38:19.800 --> 1:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>If you feel like a kid cannot be thriving in

1:38:21.960 --> 1:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>your home, obviously you have to take measures. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe, and I'm also generalizing. I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's plenty of people that are adopting children

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<v Speaker 1>from Russia with good intentions, but sometime they can't, right, yeah,

1:38:35.200 --> 1:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>but now they can't. Now they can't, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like before ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because there was another social media has definitely added

1:38:44.520 --> 1:38:47.439
<v Speaker 2>an aspect to this, because there was another social media

1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:49.639
<v Speaker 2>family where they were going to adopt a baby from

1:38:49.640 --> 1:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>like Thailand or something like that, and then the rules

1:38:54.000 --> 1:38:56.720
<v Speaker 2>are you can't post on social media your kid for

1:38:56.760 --> 1:38:59.879
<v Speaker 2>a year, like you cannot, and so then they decided

1:39:00.200 --> 1:39:02.400
<v Speaker 2>to adopt the kid, and it's like, oh, so you

1:39:02.479 --> 1:39:06.439
<v Speaker 2>were just getting the kid to post them, got it? Yeah, No,

1:39:06.600 --> 1:39:11.240
<v Speaker 2>white people adopt what Christian I would say Christian evangelicals

1:39:11.320 --> 1:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>adopting in our country is like an issue because I

1:39:15.400 --> 1:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>went to North I went to you know, an evangelical college,

1:39:19.120 --> 1:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>and the way these eighteen nineteen twenty year olds would

1:39:22.840 --> 1:39:27.080
<v Speaker 2>talk about their mission trips to like Africa and stuff

1:39:27.439 --> 1:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>was like bragging about their trip to the Bahamas.

1:39:30.400 --> 1:39:30.920
<v Speaker 3>When you were a.

1:39:30.920 --> 1:39:33.479
<v Speaker 2>Kid, it was like it was It's like a brag thing.

1:39:33.520 --> 1:39:37.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like getting a new lexus. They talk about these

1:39:37.360 --> 1:39:41.120
<v Speaker 2>kids they take like it's souvenirs from a trip. It

1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>was really sickening to be around it. Yeah, and you know,

1:39:44.000 --> 1:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>we know people, I feel like this is deje vous?

1:39:46.080 --> 1:39:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Have we just talked?

1:39:46.800 --> 1:39:50.479
<v Speaker 3>We talked about this, but maybe somewhere else? Oh is

1:39:50.520 --> 1:39:53.639
<v Speaker 3>that it? Yeah? I don't remember. I don't either.

1:39:54.000 --> 1:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>But we have a friend who was adopted from Korea

1:39:57.400 --> 1:40:00.280
<v Speaker 2>and by like white evangelical parents and then and he

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<v Speaker 2>is who he is.

1:40:01.200 --> 1:40:04.519
<v Speaker 3>They could not handle it. Yeah.

1:40:04.320 --> 1:40:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there is this weird like evangelicals love to adopt,

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<v Speaker 2>but then they want you to be a straight little Christian.

1:40:12.680 --> 1:40:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, anyway they.

1:40:14.800 --> 1:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Want you to behave So it's like even the people

1:40:17.360 --> 1:40:21.640
<v Speaker 2>you know for social media or for your religious afterlife, like,

1:40:21.680 --> 1:40:23.160
<v Speaker 2>no matter how you look at it, if it's not

1:40:23.400 --> 1:40:26.840
<v Speaker 2>just about the child, you are wrong or do we?

1:40:27.200 --> 1:40:29.479
<v Speaker 2>And what sucks to We were talking about adoption. I

1:40:29.479 --> 1:40:32.040
<v Speaker 2>remember in college. I'll I remember a lot from college

1:40:32.040 --> 1:40:33.960
<v Speaker 2>because I was so disgusted by everyone I went and

1:40:34.040 --> 1:40:37.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty open minded, but they were talking. We were talking

1:40:37.040 --> 1:40:40.400
<v Speaker 2>about adoption and I had to take a family relationship class.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a Christian university. Oh oh my god. But

1:40:43.920 --> 1:40:45.559
<v Speaker 3>he the sociology.

1:40:45.000 --> 1:40:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Professor, he's passed, but he was very you know, he was,

1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess spicy for that community. But we were talking

1:40:52.040 --> 1:40:54.679
<v Speaker 2>about adoption and they were all just like, yes, adoption, adoption,

1:40:54.760 --> 1:40:57.280
<v Speaker 2>we have to help children. And as soon as it

1:40:57.320 --> 1:40:59.840
<v Speaker 2>became about gay adoption, it was like, oh absolutely not

1:41:00.520 --> 1:41:03.000
<v Speaker 2>absolutely not. And it's like you were just talking about

1:41:03.040 --> 1:41:06.000
<v Speaker 2>how any like we got to save these kids and

1:41:06.040 --> 1:41:09.240
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, never mind, they actually they should

1:41:09.240 --> 1:41:11.559
<v Speaker 2>be in an orphanage if it's gonna be good. It's like,

1:41:12.439 --> 1:41:15.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not about the kid, it's about their own salvation.

1:41:15.160 --> 1:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>It's about all these other things. It's like very rarely about, like, oh,

1:41:19.040 --> 1:41:21.599
<v Speaker 2>we want to give love to a kid, right, why

1:41:21.640 --> 1:41:23.120
<v Speaker 2>would you not adopt a kid you can't put on

1:41:23.160 --> 1:41:25.760
<v Speaker 2>social media? Like that is that's like twisted to me

1:41:26.600 --> 1:41:28.200
<v Speaker 2>the whole God they didn't get them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the adoption is so complicated, just like watching a friend,

1:41:32.040 --> 1:41:34.479
<v Speaker 1>like friends of ours that we know, like ye went

1:41:34.520 --> 1:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>through the process of like supporting a mom and then

1:41:37.120 --> 1:41:39.439
<v Speaker 1>they renag on it a couple times and it's like

1:41:39.880 --> 1:41:41.919
<v Speaker 1>they actually feel like, oh, well, at least we supported

1:41:41.920 --> 1:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>someone who was in need. But it's like hearp, they

1:41:44.040 --> 1:41:46.280
<v Speaker 1>got a baby, thank God, who's so beautiful and they

1:41:46.320 --> 1:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>have such a beautiful family. But like, you know, I

1:41:49.200 --> 1:41:51.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's like when you have a nursery ready for

1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>this kid to go home and you're you know, you

1:41:52.960 --> 1:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>get it's like heartbreaking. But it's also like why is

1:41:56.040 --> 1:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it so expensive when there are so many people that

1:41:58.280 --> 1:42:00.080
<v Speaker 1>want to do it and can't afford it? Like I

1:42:00.160 --> 1:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>have a friend who adopted, and it was like their

1:42:02.160 --> 1:42:05.719
<v Speaker 1>entire life savings just to do it. They're a perfectly

1:42:05.800 --> 1:42:08.599
<v Speaker 1>great family for a kid, Like why are we not

1:42:08.680 --> 1:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>just matching it up and doing a little bit of

1:42:10.600 --> 1:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>money and lawyer's fees, you know, like like the way

1:42:13.240 --> 1:42:15.639
<v Speaker 1>you can get a quickie divorce. Well, I guess you're

1:42:15.680 --> 1:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>saying it's because it's like the prison system. Well there, yeah,

1:42:18.840 --> 1:42:20.639
<v Speaker 1>but I mean but I bet i'm here too.

1:42:21.160 --> 1:42:21.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:42:21.680 --> 1:42:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, because why isn't it free here or what are

1:42:24.560 --> 1:42:25.479
<v Speaker 2>easier here?

1:42:25.720 --> 1:42:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Like the obviously motives? Yeah, yeah, totally totally. If you

1:42:30.640 --> 1:42:35.280
<v Speaker 3>have more information about adoption, let us know. Yeah, and

1:42:36.000 --> 1:42:38.840
<v Speaker 3>we will be right back to your sources because I'm interested.

1:42:38.960 --> 1:42:41.080
<v Speaker 3>This is twisted shit.

1:42:41.880 --> 1:42:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we have a great guest, so don't go anywhere.

1:42:53.200 --> 1:42:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1:42:53.520 --> 1:42:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Before I introduce today's interview, I just want to remind

1:42:56.800 --> 1:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you that this interview was recorded prior to the SAGT.

1:43:00.600 --> 1:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>No one is violating any SAG rules here, and no

1:43:03.880 --> 1:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>one would want to. Everybody on our podcast fully one

1:43:06.960 --> 1:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent supports the strike, and I just wanted to

1:43:09.640 --> 1:43:12.960
<v Speaker 1>point that out before we start. And our guest today

1:43:13.040 --> 1:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>is exciting, a true Broadway baby. She has starred in

1:43:16.200 --> 1:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the Broadway productions of The Scarlet Pimpernel Next to Normal, Priscilla,

1:43:19.400 --> 1:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Queen of the Desert, and Dear Evan Hanson. She also

1:43:22.080 --> 1:43:25.080
<v Speaker 1>had a recurring role in CBS's Why Women Kill. But

1:43:25.720 --> 1:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know we love her and refer to her lovingly

1:43:28.240 --> 1:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>as Pippacocks. Please enjoy our interview with the lovely Jessica Phillips. Wait,

1:43:34.400 --> 1:43:36.559
<v Speaker 1>so I have to know this because you messaged us

1:43:36.600 --> 1:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and I everyone needs Pippacocks to slide into

1:43:40.400 --> 1:43:44.519
<v Speaker 1>their dms because it was a true thrill, Like I gasped, So,

1:43:44.560 --> 1:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>how did you hear about our podcast? I'm like, was

1:43:47.240 --> 1:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>some friend of yours like they're talking about you?

1:43:49.760 --> 1:43:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Like cause we talk about it all the time. Yes, absolutely, No.

1:43:53.240 --> 1:43:56.719
<v Speaker 5>My friend Lane actually texted me and he was like, okay,

1:43:56.760 --> 1:44:00.200
<v Speaker 5>so I listened to this podcast all the time, and

1:44:00.240 --> 1:44:02.880
<v Speaker 5>he's like, I think he's listened to every single.

1:44:02.560 --> 1:44:03.879
<v Speaker 3>Episode you guys have done.

1:44:04.280 --> 1:44:07.160
<v Speaker 5>And he's like, and they did there, Yes, they did

1:44:07.160 --> 1:44:09.120
<v Speaker 5>one of your episodes and they talked about you. And

1:44:09.160 --> 1:44:13.000
<v Speaker 5>I was like, what, wait a minute, did they like me?

1:44:14.000 --> 1:44:17.599
<v Speaker 5>Because let's start there, because actors need to be liked

1:44:17.920 --> 1:44:20.080
<v Speaker 5>And so I didn't even know about your podcast until

1:44:20.080 --> 1:44:22.000
<v Speaker 5>he told me, and so then then I went down

1:44:22.040 --> 1:44:22.719
<v Speaker 5>the rabbit hole.

1:44:23.240 --> 1:44:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then yeah, that's how we that we need

1:44:26.520 --> 1:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that kind of grassroots marketing so that we can get

1:44:28.960 --> 1:44:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, we got you. Now we need to get Ludacros,

1:44:31.479 --> 1:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Joan Cusack. There's a few more people.

1:44:33.240 --> 1:44:38.360
<v Speaker 3>So that's right. Everybody's friends need to be telling them. So, okay,

1:44:38.400 --> 1:44:39.759
<v Speaker 3>where should we jump in here?

1:44:40.000 --> 1:44:41.840
<v Speaker 5>Do you know my story how I kind of came

1:44:41.880 --> 1:44:48.439
<v Speaker 5>over from Warren's musical. That's okay, okay, So Raoul and

1:44:48.479 --> 1:44:49.840
<v Speaker 5>I Raoul.

1:44:49.560 --> 1:44:51.240
<v Speaker 3>A Sparza and I, we're familiar.

1:44:52.360 --> 1:44:56.840
<v Speaker 5>We did a musical called Leap of Faith on Broadway.

1:44:57.320 --> 1:45:00.400
<v Speaker 5>We start opposite each other in this musical. And you know,

1:45:00.479 --> 1:45:02.759
<v Speaker 5>this thing had been kicking around for like ten years

1:45:03.160 --> 1:45:05.760
<v Speaker 5>and had gone through all of these various workshops and

1:45:06.000 --> 1:45:10.120
<v Speaker 5>had done some regional productions, and it just I think

1:45:10.360 --> 1:45:14.519
<v Speaker 5>wasn't taking flight. And so they decided to hire a

1:45:14.560 --> 1:45:17.639
<v Speaker 5>new book writer to kind of like restructure the book

1:45:17.680 --> 1:45:20.320
<v Speaker 5>of the musical. And they brought him more in Light

1:45:20.400 --> 1:45:22.320
<v Speaker 5>to do it. And he had already won a Tony

1:45:22.400 --> 1:45:25.400
<v Speaker 5>for Sideman, so like he had his you know, you know,

1:45:25.439 --> 1:45:27.840
<v Speaker 5>he was on the scene there on Broadway, and so

1:45:27.880 --> 1:45:30.800
<v Speaker 5>he came in and I hadn't met him.

1:45:30.800 --> 1:45:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know. I didn't even know this was happening.

1:45:33.520 --> 1:45:37.280
<v Speaker 5>And a casting director called called me one day and said, hey,

1:45:37.320 --> 1:45:39.080
<v Speaker 5>can you come in and just do a cold read

1:45:39.120 --> 1:45:41.720
<v Speaker 5>of this script? And I didn't know what it was.

1:45:42.400 --> 1:45:45.000
<v Speaker 5>They just want to hear it out loud. I was like, sure, Sure.

1:45:45.000 --> 1:45:47.720
<v Speaker 5>So I walk in the room and it's Warren Light

1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:52.479
<v Speaker 5>and Glenn Slater and Alan Mankin who wrote the lyrics

1:45:52.479 --> 1:45:55.720
<v Speaker 5>and the music for this musical, and Rolla Sparza, and

1:45:55.760 --> 1:45:58.720
<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, cool room. So I just you know,

1:45:58.720 --> 1:46:00.759
<v Speaker 5>I sat down. I did a cold read this musical

1:46:00.920 --> 1:46:03.559
<v Speaker 5>and discovered it was called Leap of Faith and had

1:46:03.600 --> 1:46:05.640
<v Speaker 5>been familiar with it because I'd actually had auditioned for

1:46:05.680 --> 1:46:08.360
<v Speaker 5>it in earlier incarnations. Anyway, it was weird how it

1:46:08.400 --> 1:46:10.160
<v Speaker 5>came back to me like that. And then a week

1:46:10.240 --> 1:46:12.680
<v Speaker 5>later they called and asked me if I would do

1:46:13.400 --> 1:46:16.040
<v Speaker 5>a workshop version of it in this with this new

1:46:16.080 --> 1:46:19.840
<v Speaker 5>book that Warren had written. And then four months later

1:46:19.920 --> 1:46:22.599
<v Speaker 5>we opened on Broadway. So it was like wam bam.

1:46:22.800 --> 1:46:25.519
<v Speaker 5>But they called him in to like just restructure the thing,

1:46:25.720 --> 1:46:30.639
<v Speaker 5>and he like combined some characters and re ordered something. Anyway,

1:46:30.680 --> 1:46:33.920
<v Speaker 5>it was it was, I think, very successful until we

1:46:33.920 --> 1:46:38.680
<v Speaker 5>opened on Broadway, and then we realized it was not

1:46:38.760 --> 1:46:41.840
<v Speaker 5>going to last, so we were only open for uh,

1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:44.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe three weeks. We previewed for like six weeks,

1:46:44.720 --> 1:46:47.000
<v Speaker 5>seven weeks, and then we were opened for three and

1:46:47.040 --> 1:46:50.479
<v Speaker 5>then we closed. Regardless through that process, as we were

1:46:50.520 --> 1:46:54.960
<v Speaker 5>previewing the musical for the Broadway production, you know, I

1:46:54.960 --> 1:46:57.400
<v Speaker 5>got to work with Warren a lot and he would,

1:46:57.479 --> 1:47:00.479
<v Speaker 5>you know, we would sit down and and well, like

1:47:00.560 --> 1:47:02.760
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't starstruck because I didn't really know who he was,

1:47:02.800 --> 1:47:05.160
<v Speaker 5>because I was just a theater gal. Of course, I

1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:08.040
<v Speaker 5>like watched Law and Order, but I just didn't I

1:47:08.080 --> 1:47:12.080
<v Speaker 5>hadn't put the name the the face to the name, right,

1:47:12.120 --> 1:47:14.880
<v Speaker 5>So I was like, you know, we would sit down

1:47:14.880 --> 1:47:17.559
<v Speaker 5>and we would talk about, you know, how to, how

1:47:17.600 --> 1:47:20.120
<v Speaker 5>to what was needed in a certain moment, and he

1:47:20.120 --> 1:47:22.520
<v Speaker 5>would write a monologue and he would ask my feedback

1:47:22.560 --> 1:47:24.200
<v Speaker 5>and I would give it to him. And that's sort

1:47:24.240 --> 1:47:26.880
<v Speaker 5>of how we functioned through the preview process. And then

1:47:27.080 --> 1:47:29.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, once the show opened and we were panned

1:47:30.000 --> 1:47:33.719
<v Speaker 5>and we closed very quickly, you know, Warren and Raoul

1:47:33.760 --> 1:47:36.040
<v Speaker 5>and I, of course, we all sort of felt like

1:47:36.080 --> 1:47:39.280
<v Speaker 5>we had been through a car crash together. But we

1:47:39.320 --> 1:47:42.680
<v Speaker 5>stayed in touch, and later that year he wrote me

1:47:43.200 --> 1:47:44.400
<v Speaker 5>a part a Lawn Order and.

1:47:44.320 --> 1:47:46.400
<v Speaker 3>That was Pippacox. Wow.

1:47:46.640 --> 1:47:50.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So it was really cool and it was like,

1:47:51.120 --> 1:47:52.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, I, like I said, I was just a

1:47:53.479 --> 1:47:57.440
<v Speaker 5>theater gal and I just hadn't really done any television.

1:47:58.200 --> 1:48:00.040
<v Speaker 5>And some of that was because I just worked a

1:47:59.920 --> 1:48:02.760
<v Speaker 5>lot in theater, and some of that was because I

1:48:02.880 --> 1:48:07.840
<v Speaker 5>didn't feel confident about my ability to translate right, Like

1:48:07.880 --> 1:48:09.840
<v Speaker 5>I didn't. I didn't feel confident being on camera. So

1:48:09.840 --> 1:48:11.559
<v Speaker 5>I was like, no, that's okay, I'll just stick to

1:48:11.600 --> 1:48:16.280
<v Speaker 5>what I know. And a couple of months before this

1:48:16.439 --> 1:48:19.600
<v Speaker 5>opportunity came up with with Law and Order, I was

1:48:19.600 --> 1:48:23.160
<v Speaker 5>going through an acrimonious divorce and I had I was

1:48:23.200 --> 1:48:26.560
<v Speaker 5>like in the middle of a kind of really traumatic

1:48:26.680 --> 1:48:31.920
<v Speaker 5>custody battle, and I just decided that I couldn't work

1:48:32.040 --> 1:48:34.960
<v Speaker 5>nights anymore. Of course, Broadway shows are in the evening,

1:48:35.080 --> 1:48:38.439
<v Speaker 5>and I just thought, okay, I can't, I can't do

1:48:38.560 --> 1:48:41.840
<v Speaker 5>this anymore. I have to switch gears. And so I

1:48:41.880 --> 1:48:44.160
<v Speaker 5>think I just sort of forced myself into saying, like,

1:48:44.240 --> 1:48:46.040
<v Speaker 5>you have to go in an audition for TV and

1:48:46.040 --> 1:48:47.880
<v Speaker 5>you have to like just face your fear with this

1:48:47.960 --> 1:48:50.519
<v Speaker 5>and do it. And that's what I did. I booked

1:48:50.520 --> 1:48:53.160
<v Speaker 5>a pilot and I shot that and it didn't get

1:48:53.160 --> 1:48:54.880
<v Speaker 5>picked up. But I you know, I sort of had

1:48:54.880 --> 1:48:59.559
<v Speaker 5>like my first foray into onto a set. And then

1:48:59.640 --> 1:49:04.679
<v Speaker 5>my very second job was pip a cox hipA baby.

1:49:05.200 --> 1:49:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Did Warren tell you that it was gonna recur? Or

1:49:07.840 --> 1:49:09.439
<v Speaker 1>was like when you came on you just thought it

1:49:09.479 --> 1:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>was one or what he didn't?

1:49:11.439 --> 1:49:14.120
<v Speaker 5>I think he like might have said, yeah, we'll see

1:49:14.160 --> 1:49:17.960
<v Speaker 5>what happens hopefully, but no, I was just thrilled to

1:49:18.640 --> 1:49:21.479
<v Speaker 5>like have a one off actually, and you know it

1:49:21.520 --> 1:49:24.559
<v Speaker 5>was was it was thrilling. It was thrilling to be

1:49:24.640 --> 1:49:28.120
<v Speaker 5>there on set. And like, you know, my first my

1:49:28.160 --> 1:49:31.720
<v Speaker 5>first day on set was not Wednesday's Child. I don't

1:49:31.720 --> 1:49:35.679
<v Speaker 5>even remember the name of the episode them all this week?

1:49:35.800 --> 1:49:39.160
<v Speaker 3>So you did a second? Did it was the one?

1:49:39.320 --> 1:49:41.599
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you it had a child named Jonah?

1:49:42.080 --> 1:49:44.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's born Psychopath, right that one? Okay?

1:49:44.560 --> 1:49:47.200
<v Speaker 5>That was my first episode. And Jonah is my son's name,

1:49:47.320 --> 1:49:49.840
<v Speaker 5>So that's how I remember that. Oh wow, I have

1:49:49.840 --> 1:49:52.120
<v Speaker 5>two sons and one of them is Joan. But my

1:49:52.240 --> 1:49:56.439
<v Speaker 5>first day on set, my first scene, we were in

1:49:56.479 --> 1:49:59.720
<v Speaker 5>the squad room and the entire cast was there, you know,

1:49:59.880 --> 1:50:04.320
<v Speaker 5>like Marishka and Dan and Iced Tea and Kelly and

1:50:04.439 --> 1:50:07.280
<v Speaker 5>Danny and I mean everyone was there, and I was

1:50:07.880 --> 1:50:09.280
<v Speaker 5>I was like peeing my pants.

1:50:09.320 --> 1:50:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was so nervous.

1:50:11.280 --> 1:50:13.880
<v Speaker 5>And we shot the scene where like I was standing

1:50:13.960 --> 1:50:16.880
<v Speaker 5>in the middle. You guys probably saw it this week,

1:50:16.920 --> 1:50:18.760
<v Speaker 5>but in the middle of like that, they were all

1:50:18.800 --> 1:50:20.760
<v Speaker 5>in a circle around me, and the camera was kind

1:50:20.760 --> 1:50:23.000
<v Speaker 5>of spinning and we were doing this like kind of

1:50:23.120 --> 1:50:27.479
<v Speaker 5>high impact like you know, movement, and anyway, we shot

1:50:27.479 --> 1:50:31.600
<v Speaker 5>the scene and then somebody just like yelled okay. I

1:50:31.720 --> 1:50:35.960
<v Speaker 5>was turning around, and I didn't know what that meant,

1:50:36.040 --> 1:50:37.960
<v Speaker 5>Like I didn't know what that meant in TV terms,

1:50:38.000 --> 1:50:38.200
<v Speaker 5>you know.

1:50:38.920 --> 1:50:39.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you guys know.

1:50:39.720 --> 1:50:41.400
<v Speaker 5>It just means they're gonna shoot the same scene from

1:50:41.439 --> 1:50:44.160
<v Speaker 5>a different direction, right, I had no idea. Everyone scattered

1:50:44.200 --> 1:50:48.000
<v Speaker 5>except me and Iced Tea, and I just like stood there.

1:50:48.040 --> 1:50:52.080
<v Speaker 5>I guess I was waiting for somebody to.

1:50:51.439 --> 1:50:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Tell me where to go. I don't know.

1:50:54.439 --> 1:50:58.000
<v Speaker 5>And I was standing there just like awkwardly looking at

1:50:58.160 --> 1:51:00.200
<v Speaker 5>Iced Tea like I don't.

1:51:00.200 --> 1:51:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Know what to do.

1:51:01.880 --> 1:51:06.599
<v Speaker 5>And then I just go, so, where do you live?

1:51:08.000 --> 1:51:12.040
<v Speaker 5>It's just like an asshole, you know, And he looked

1:51:12.040 --> 1:51:15.320
<v Speaker 5>at me and he goes I've been here fourteen years.

1:51:16.600 --> 1:51:22.040
<v Speaker 3>I just say the words. He's like, lady, just.

1:51:22.439 --> 1:51:25.599
<v Speaker 5>Shand down, you know, just say your lines. We don't

1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:28.120
<v Speaker 5>have And to this day is like the most stage

1:51:28.160 --> 1:51:30.040
<v Speaker 5>piece of acting advice I've ever gotten.

1:51:30.160 --> 1:51:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Just say the words, you know.

1:51:32.080 --> 1:51:34.960
<v Speaker 5>And he was so sweet and so that was sort

1:51:34.960 --> 1:51:36.680
<v Speaker 5>of my introduction to the set and the.

1:51:36.680 --> 1:51:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Cast, and I mean everyone was amazing.

1:51:39.479 --> 1:51:43.360
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. A nice circle walk and talk as your

1:51:43.400 --> 1:51:46.639
<v Speaker 2>first that's right, that's right. Bit of shooting.

1:51:47.160 --> 1:51:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Turn it around.

1:51:49.520 --> 1:51:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Because you're you know, the Social services DA type of thing.

1:51:53.880 --> 1:51:56.880
<v Speaker 2>You do work with a lot of kids, So how

1:51:56.960 --> 1:51:58.600
<v Speaker 2>is it working. Do you have any stories with the

1:51:58.680 --> 1:51:59.559
<v Speaker 2>kids from.

1:51:59.640 --> 1:52:03.160
<v Speaker 5>I don't, No, Like I never really had damages. No,

1:52:03.520 --> 1:52:06.760
<v Speaker 5>yeah I would, there was not I don't have any

1:52:06.800 --> 1:52:09.360
<v Speaker 5>memories of like having one on one with those kids.

1:52:09.439 --> 1:52:11.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean a lot of it was like me standing

1:52:11.200 --> 1:52:12.360
<v Speaker 5>outside of the.

1:52:12.640 --> 1:52:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you're usually behind the view room.

1:52:14.920 --> 1:52:18.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, and even in the courtroom. Like, no, I'm

1:52:18.840 --> 1:52:20.639
<v Speaker 5>trying to remember your kids.

1:52:20.880 --> 1:52:24.280
<v Speaker 2>You also had kids with the you know, yes, but

1:52:24.400 --> 1:52:25.599
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that then.

1:52:26.479 --> 1:52:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I didn't know that until Collateral Damages.

1:52:30.880 --> 1:52:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Wait, so that's what I want to ask you about

1:52:32.920 --> 1:52:35.360
<v Speaker 1>like they give you the script for Collateral Damages, you

1:52:35.400 --> 1:52:39.280
<v Speaker 1>find out that A you're married to Hank, b he's

1:52:39.280 --> 1:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a pedophile, and you guys have kids together.

1:52:42.280 --> 1:52:46.000
<v Speaker 3>No idea were you like what, Like, yeah, it blew

1:52:46.080 --> 1:52:47.960
<v Speaker 3>away my backstory.

1:52:47.760 --> 1:52:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Like well, yeah, because you guys had another episode where

1:52:51.320 --> 1:52:54.479
<v Speaker 2>you interacted and so you didn't know you were married

1:52:54.560 --> 1:52:55.120
<v Speaker 2>at that point.

1:52:55.360 --> 1:52:58.160
<v Speaker 3>No, we did not know that. This is the only

1:52:58.240 --> 1:53:01.439
<v Speaker 3>episode that you are in together sides Collateral Damages. This

1:53:01.600 --> 1:53:03.160
<v Speaker 3>is the only one. Like the rest of the episodes,

1:53:03.200 --> 1:53:05.120
<v Speaker 3>you guys are separate characters. So I feel like they

1:53:05.160 --> 1:53:07.559
<v Speaker 3>added this. I don't think they had this conceived from

1:53:07.600 --> 1:53:09.760
<v Speaker 3>the very beginning. I had probably you guys were going

1:53:09.800 --> 1:53:11.400
<v Speaker 3>to be married now well probably not.

1:53:11.640 --> 1:53:13.920
<v Speaker 5>And when I rewatched that scene, I was like, yeah,

1:53:13.960 --> 1:53:16.360
<v Speaker 5>there's no I don't even think there's a like a

1:53:16.400 --> 1:53:18.080
<v Speaker 5>two shot with with us in it.

1:53:18.200 --> 1:53:20.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, it was.

1:53:21.040 --> 1:53:24.519
<v Speaker 5>It was wild because I mean, all in all, I

1:53:25.000 --> 1:53:28.360
<v Speaker 5>recurred for five seasons, and those first four seasons I

1:53:28.400 --> 1:53:32.880
<v Speaker 5>was like, okay, uh, you know, she's like got, She's

1:53:32.920 --> 1:53:36.320
<v Speaker 5>wearing expensive clothes and has a blowout, like for every

1:53:36.960 --> 1:53:44.400
<v Speaker 5>appearance in court, and every time we seeing the blowout okayible.

1:53:44.720 --> 1:53:48.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean she is like she is strutting some stuff there,

1:53:48.280 --> 1:53:50.960
<v Speaker 5>and I mean, you know, eighties like in real life

1:53:51.120 --> 1:53:54.000
<v Speaker 5>can't like they can barely eat.

1:53:54.400 --> 1:53:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they just don't make a living wage.

1:53:56.080 --> 1:53:59.800
<v Speaker 5>And so I'm like, Okay, obviously she's a trust fun baby, right,

1:54:00.000 --> 1:54:03.800
<v Speaker 5>Obviously she's like just putting her time in to like

1:54:04.040 --> 1:54:06.880
<v Speaker 5>give back. But she doesn't, you know, she doesn't work

1:54:06.920 --> 1:54:09.680
<v Speaker 5>for the money. You know, I had just constructed this

1:54:09.760 --> 1:54:12.840
<v Speaker 5>whole backstory for myself, and she was clearly single, and

1:54:12.880 --> 1:54:15.160
<v Speaker 5>she was like hanging out with the ladies from Sex

1:54:15.160 --> 1:54:17.080
<v Speaker 5>and the City every night, you know, like this was

1:54:17.120 --> 1:54:21.519
<v Speaker 5>her thing. She's Miranda's colleague, right. But yeah, So when

1:54:21.520 --> 1:54:24.240
<v Speaker 5>I got the script for Collateral Damages and you know,

1:54:24.400 --> 1:54:27.240
<v Speaker 5>Warren like texted me and he was like, I got

1:54:27.240 --> 1:54:28.720
<v Speaker 5>a good one come in your way. And I was

1:54:28.760 --> 1:54:31.800
<v Speaker 5>like okay, and I read it and my jaw was

1:54:31.840 --> 1:54:36.280
<v Speaker 5>on the floor. I was like, what, Hank Abraham what?

1:54:36.960 --> 1:54:39.400
<v Speaker 5>So it was a it was a wild turn of

1:54:39.400 --> 1:54:42.840
<v Speaker 5>events to realize that she all this time she had

1:54:43.320 --> 1:54:46.720
<v Speaker 5>this family and yeah, I don't know how much money

1:54:46.720 --> 1:54:49.400
<v Speaker 5>at Hank makes, but dickhead husband, Yeah.

1:54:49.280 --> 1:54:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Seriously, Yeah, because you are kind of a character that

1:54:51.560 --> 1:54:53.520
<v Speaker 3>most people, like I would say, like you have this

1:54:53.560 --> 1:54:56.160
<v Speaker 3>sort of Alex cabin energy of like sort of no,

1:54:56.440 --> 1:54:58.720
<v Speaker 3>like very smart da and then like this guy is

1:54:58.840 --> 1:55:03.960
<v Speaker 3>just like a before the yeah, even before the pedophile stuff. Yeah,

1:55:04.000 --> 1:55:05.879
<v Speaker 3>he's just a pain in the ass. He's always bothering

1:55:05.920 --> 1:55:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Marishka's care like Olivia, right, and then you're like when

1:55:09.040 --> 1:55:10.560
<v Speaker 3>you open the door, and then when you figure it out,

1:55:10.560 --> 1:55:11.880
<v Speaker 3>You're like, wait, what these two.

1:55:12.040 --> 1:55:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get you never know what goes on

1:55:13.960 --> 1:55:16.600
<v Speaker 1>behind closed doors, but I just was shocked.

1:55:16.880 --> 1:55:18.400
<v Speaker 3>And then the pedophilia.

1:55:18.440 --> 1:55:20.320
<v Speaker 1>But it was a great episode for you because you

1:55:20.400 --> 1:55:23.520
<v Speaker 1>really got to do a lot of heavy lifting in

1:55:23.520 --> 1:55:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that episode.

1:55:24.120 --> 1:55:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I feel.

1:55:24.440 --> 1:55:28.560
<v Speaker 5>Oh in Collateral Damages, yeah, yeah for sure. Like I well,

1:55:28.600 --> 1:55:30.880
<v Speaker 5>it's so funny because you know, every time I did

1:55:30.920 --> 1:55:35.400
<v Speaker 5>an episode, I was like, I was like, well, yeah,

1:55:35.440 --> 1:55:38.920
<v Speaker 5>like she's she's like really upset and and you know

1:55:39.000 --> 1:55:41.640
<v Speaker 5>she loves these kids, and they were always like, no,

1:55:42.080 --> 1:55:44.760
<v Speaker 5>she doesn't care. She's like sees fifty of these cases

1:55:44.800 --> 1:55:47.880
<v Speaker 5>a day. She's just like very matter of fact, she's

1:55:48.000 --> 1:55:49.240
<v Speaker 5>not feeling about it.

1:55:49.280 --> 1:55:51.640
<v Speaker 3>And every time I was like, oh, you know, like.

1:55:53.320 --> 1:55:55.880
<v Speaker 5>Because I so wanted her to be infused with some

1:55:55.920 --> 1:55:58.680
<v Speaker 5>sort of you know, empathy and like you know, have

1:55:58.840 --> 1:56:02.920
<v Speaker 5>something something to play. But you know they are the

1:56:02.960 --> 1:56:06.000
<v Speaker 5>smart ones obviously, like they needed her to be matter

1:56:06.000 --> 1:56:10.240
<v Speaker 5>of fact, like they needed that advocate, that Cabot energy, right.

1:56:10.840 --> 1:56:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:56:11.120 --> 1:56:14.920
<v Speaker 5>So when I read this the Clatter Damages episode, I

1:56:14.960 --> 1:56:19.240
<v Speaker 5>was like, oh, yeah, that's this is some this is something.

1:56:19.320 --> 1:56:20.840
<v Speaker 5>And I actually had a moment where I was like,

1:56:21.000 --> 1:56:23.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I can do this, Like I this

1:56:23.720 --> 1:56:28.000
<v Speaker 5>feels like this feels above my pay grade. Meanwhile on

1:56:28.080 --> 1:56:31.280
<v Speaker 5>Broadway like I'm I'm I played crying moms all the time.

1:56:31.360 --> 1:56:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just like what I do.

1:56:32.800 --> 1:56:35.720
<v Speaker 5>So and I got to tell you, like Mushka took

1:56:36.520 --> 1:56:40.160
<v Speaker 5>such amazing care of me during that episode. It was

1:56:40.640 --> 1:56:44.680
<v Speaker 5>it was really a remarkable experience and to see her

1:56:44.720 --> 1:56:47.000
<v Speaker 5>work and lead the company that way. Like at one

1:56:47.000 --> 1:56:50.600
<v Speaker 5>time point we were like rehearsing something. I think it

1:56:50.640 --> 1:56:54.080
<v Speaker 5>was that stairwell scene, and she was like, can everybody

1:56:54.120 --> 1:56:56.320
<v Speaker 5>just get out, Like I just need to clear this

1:56:56.680 --> 1:56:59.560
<v Speaker 5>room because we just need the space the two of us,

1:56:59.600 --> 1:57:02.080
<v Speaker 5>like or the three of us, you know. So she

1:57:02.280 --> 1:57:05.240
<v Speaker 5>was just she was so attentive to the fact that

1:57:05.280 --> 1:57:08.600
<v Speaker 5>it was like a really vulnerable thing for me to do,

1:57:08.640 --> 1:57:10.839
<v Speaker 5>and she just didn't want like a lot of extra

1:57:11.040 --> 1:57:13.520
<v Speaker 5>crew and everything standing around while we were rehearsing it,

1:57:13.520 --> 1:57:15.480
<v Speaker 5>so that like I could get into a good headspace.

1:57:15.520 --> 1:57:17.840
<v Speaker 5>And I mean, she's just amazing. I know you've heard

1:57:17.840 --> 1:57:20.080
<v Speaker 5>this from other people, but she really is remarkable.

1:57:20.720 --> 1:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've heard it from a lot of other people,

1:57:22.440 --> 1:57:24.200
<v Speaker 1>but I was one of my questions that I wrote

1:57:24.240 --> 1:57:26.280
<v Speaker 1>down was like, you guys felt like you had like

1:57:26.320 --> 1:57:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a good chemistry on screen, and so I was like

1:57:29.040 --> 1:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>wondering if you guys became pals off screen.

1:57:31.960 --> 1:57:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah we did.

1:57:33.840 --> 1:57:39.080
<v Speaker 5>And you know, it's it's funny because she well, you know,

1:57:39.120 --> 1:57:41.480
<v Speaker 5>going back to like when I went in the first

1:57:41.520 --> 1:57:44.480
<v Speaker 5>time for like that very first scene that I shot,

1:57:45.280 --> 1:57:49.520
<v Speaker 5>I was standing around like between takes, and like I

1:57:50.280 --> 1:57:53.640
<v Speaker 5>was standing by myself and I just kept looking up

1:57:53.640 --> 1:57:56.920
<v Speaker 5>and like seeing people staring at me, and I was

1:57:56.960 --> 1:58:00.800
<v Speaker 5>like at like Mushka and like Dan Floor Dan Floric

1:58:00.920 --> 1:58:03.000
<v Speaker 5>was like staring at me, and I was like, Okay,

1:58:03.080 --> 1:58:04.960
<v Speaker 5>what's going on with this creepy dude over here?

1:58:05.000 --> 1:58:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Like what?

1:58:07.040 --> 1:58:10.120
<v Speaker 5>And we did a take and then after the take,

1:58:10.560 --> 1:58:13.440
<v Speaker 5>Dan and Musha Marshall both come up and they're like,

1:58:13.800 --> 1:58:14.720
<v Speaker 5>we figured it out.

1:58:14.840 --> 1:58:16.200
<v Speaker 3>We know how we know you.

1:58:16.840 --> 1:58:19.200
<v Speaker 5>And it turns out they had seen leap of faith

1:58:19.400 --> 1:58:22.320
<v Speaker 5>because obviously Warren got everybody tickets and I think they

1:58:22.320 --> 1:58:24.960
<v Speaker 5>were there like opening night, but they were all standing

1:58:24.960 --> 1:58:26.640
<v Speaker 5>around trying to like place me.

1:58:27.160 --> 1:58:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, oh god. So it was very.

1:58:29.440 --> 1:58:32.160
<v Speaker 5>Sweet and so at that from that point on, you know,

1:58:32.240 --> 1:58:34.800
<v Speaker 5>every time I was on Marshia would be like, Okay,

1:58:34.800 --> 1:58:36.720
<v Speaker 5>so tell me about singing lessons.

1:58:36.760 --> 1:58:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, tell me about like yes, she's like obsessed with Broadway, right,

1:58:40.320 --> 1:58:41.080
<v Speaker 3>yeah she is.

1:58:41.400 --> 1:58:44.480
<v Speaker 5>And so we would talk about voice lessons and and

1:58:44.560 --> 1:58:48.120
<v Speaker 5>all things vocal technique, and and you know, she was

1:58:48.200 --> 1:58:51.440
<v Speaker 5>like and it's just amazing to like that she she

1:58:51.560 --> 1:58:54.680
<v Speaker 5>cared enough to ask about other people. I mean, you

1:58:54.720 --> 1:58:58.120
<v Speaker 5>know it just when you when a star of that caliber,

1:58:58.280 --> 1:59:00.480
<v Speaker 5>you would think like, Okay, they're probably just going to

1:59:00.560 --> 1:59:04.280
<v Speaker 5>go into their trailer and not talk to anybody. But

1:59:04.400 --> 1:59:08.280
<v Speaker 5>she's you know, she just likes people and she's lovely

1:59:08.400 --> 1:59:08.800
<v Speaker 5>that way.

1:59:09.080 --> 1:59:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:59:09.440 --> 1:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we literally just get everybody. I don't know that

1:59:12.880 --> 1:59:15.480
<v Speaker 1>there's another person like in the business that people.

1:59:15.200 --> 1:59:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Feel so positively about, like maybe Tom Hanks. Maybe it's

1:59:18.560 --> 1:59:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Tom Hanks.

1:59:19.000 --> 1:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Mariska Hargetts Say and Tom Hanks are neck and

1:59:22.800 --> 1:59:24.200
<v Speaker 1>neck for America's Sweethearts.

1:59:24.360 --> 1:59:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I loved that.

1:59:26.080 --> 1:59:28.520
<v Speaker 1>In season twenty two, I think they brought you back

1:59:28.560 --> 1:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>as just a defense attorney.

1:59:31.040 --> 1:59:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they didn't like ruin PIPA's life completely. When I

1:59:34.360 --> 1:59:36.840
<v Speaker 3>got Rist, they brought her back. So technically you could

1:59:36.840 --> 1:59:40.040
<v Speaker 3>come back at any time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:59:39.840 --> 1:59:40.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

1:59:40.520 --> 1:59:41.000
<v Speaker 3>I guess so.

1:59:41.120 --> 1:59:44.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm not dead in a trunk somewhere, yeah,

1:59:44.720 --> 1:59:45.040
<v Speaker 5>I guess.

1:59:45.120 --> 1:59:45.200
<v Speaker 4>So.

1:59:45.560 --> 1:59:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

1:59:46.440 --> 1:59:50.160
<v Speaker 5>It was really like I was so curious to get

1:59:50.240 --> 1:59:51.080
<v Speaker 5>that script.

1:59:51.200 --> 1:59:52.000
<v Speaker 3>We filmed that.

1:59:53.800 --> 1:59:58.400
<v Speaker 5>Right after the shutdown, it is like September of twenty twenty,

1:59:59.240 --> 2:00:02.400
<v Speaker 5>and you know, it was like everything was just slowly

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<v Speaker 5>coming back at that point, and and you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean it was like all of these zones that for

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<v Speaker 5>safety zones backstage, I mean on the set and stuff

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<v Speaker 5>like that. So you know, it was just a weird

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<v Speaker 5>kind of energy in general, and everyone was so happy

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<v Speaker 5>to be back to work. I was doing a Broadway

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<v Speaker 5>show at that point, and our show was shut down

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<v Speaker 5>because all of Broadway was shut down. We shut down

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<v Speaker 5>in March and didn't reopen for like twenty months, So

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<v Speaker 5>it was I was grateful to like have something something

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<v Speaker 5>to do and to have Pipple come back like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I was sort of like hoping that they,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, had a different job for her, like that

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<v Speaker 5>they were maybe going to put her in, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in a different part of the law or maybe mee

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<v Speaker 5>her a judge or something, you know, like to I'd

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<v Speaker 5>like to see her, well, let's let's be honest. I

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<v Speaker 5>like to see her spin off and sort of have

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<v Speaker 5>have her own.

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<v Speaker 1>Life, of course, but I feel like Hank like tainted

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<v Speaker 1>her reputation just by association in a certain way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like fortunately, so a few things she could do, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad she You know, we're our eyes are open

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<v Speaker 1>for Pepa to come back at any time. And we

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<v Speaker 1>do have a mole in the casting department who listens

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<v Speaker 1>to our podcast, so we want Puppa back amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And this might be like too much of a little

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<v Speaker 2>Easter egg, but we pay attention to the wardrobe so often,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is usually dark colors, dark purples, we noticed,

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<v Speaker 2>but in this episode, you're like bright orange or you're

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<v Speaker 2>the only person I've ever seen wearing like a bright

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<v Speaker 2>ass shirt.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that was for a reason. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>guys talk about it? We did not.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm not sure who made that executive decision. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>like the wardrobe department over there is kick ass. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they're amazing, and for a long time they just like

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<v Speaker 5>kept a closet for me, which made me feel really fancy,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just like stuff that I had tried on

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<v Speaker 5>that they they would pull from. I was also like

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<v Speaker 5>I was because I was going through a divorce. I

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<v Speaker 5>was like underweight, you know. I was like I had

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<v Speaker 5>lost a lot of weight and I was very thin.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't fit

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<v Speaker 5>that closet anymore. But yeah, I don't know. It's such

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<v Speaker 5>a I mean maybe because you know, they were trying

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<v Speaker 5>to make a statement about about her.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, because she was a redhead. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they could be your red hair. They were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like make your hair pop or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, but it was fun. It was fun. Like

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<v Speaker 3>everything I wore there was just like beautiful. Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on with your Broadway life? We have talked to

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<v Speaker 3>a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Broadway people on the pod because there's obviously so

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<v Speaker 1>much crossover and we do like to ask people like,

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<v Speaker 1>since you've done a lot of Broadway, is there like

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<v Speaker 1>a dream role that you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet to play that you'd love to play?

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 5>I just played my dream role in Dear Evan Hanson,

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<v Speaker 5>so I did that for a while and that show

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<v Speaker 5>unfortunately closed in the fall. Yeah, I'd love to play

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<v Speaker 5>mother in rag Time. I mean, just some of the classics,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, at some point, like I'll be old enough

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<v Speaker 5>for like Mama Rose, you know, those kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 5>But no, I sort of feel like, I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 5>spent a lot of my career doing original stuff, stuff

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<v Speaker 5>in development, and I think there's a lot of good

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<v Speaker 5>stuff that has yet to be written. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I've got my I'm like putting all my eggs in

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<v Speaker 5>the new composer's basket, and I think there's just going

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<v Speaker 5>to be some great new like badass women that are

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<v Speaker 5>going to lead stories in the future, because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we're still catching up. Women are still catching up, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>because most, like a majority of our Broadway composers have

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<v Speaker 5>traditionally been men, and they have written stories about men

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<v Speaker 5>for men, So you know, we're just we're catching up.

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<v Speaker 5>We're catching up so I think there are some like

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<v Speaker 5>amazing roles for women that have yet to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be imagined and put to paper.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the biggest difference about like theater actors and TV

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<v Speaker 2>actors or like film and screen and then yeah, the theater.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So, like theater actors are like super neurotic all

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<v Speaker 5>the time and dramatic, and I think like most of

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<v Speaker 5>the TV actors I've met are just super chill. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they're just like because the because the stakes are lower

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<v Speaker 5>when you are shooting a scene, right, you're not in

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<v Speaker 5>front of anyone live, you have a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it over.

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<v Speaker 5>You're only doing it in small chunks, and for the

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<v Speaker 5>most part, it's not even chronological, right, So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 5>just it just is. It's just easier. And I have

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<v Speaker 5>to say that it's like a more humane schedule. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just easier to be on TV schedule because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you've got weekends off. I mean, you're shooting long days.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes they're like fourteen or fifteen hours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of like waiting around, right, It's like

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<v Speaker 1>your call time is hours before you have to do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're sitting in the makeup chair. It's like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it's like I feel like you get there,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on stage. That's some people for three hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and like you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeh shot out of a canon and there's and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and there's just kind of no, there's no sort of

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<v Speaker 5>stepping off that that that train once it's left the station.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, and I think it just makes you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it just makes theater people neurotic. Plus you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not as it's not as cushy a living, so theater

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<v Speaker 5>actors have to like hustle big time for their next gig.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's just it's just hard on the ego. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>TV actors are just a little more chill, so they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I get a little residual check here and there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be okay, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about why women kill before you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well it looks so good.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was that was my pandemic project because after

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<v Speaker 5>I shot that episode of Law and Order, I flew

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<v Speaker 5>to la and and did this series. And are you

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<v Speaker 5>familiar with Mark Cherry and what he does?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a Desperate Housewives Yeah, Stan, Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So Mark Cherry wrote this and it's fun. It's

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<v Speaker 5>like every season is different so it's like American horror story.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like a whole new cast and a whole new

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<v Speaker 5>you know plot. So this this particular season, the second

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<v Speaker 5>season was set in nineteen forty nine, and so we

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<v Speaker 5>got to do all of those like cool period costumes

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<v Speaker 5>and like they even did our our nails, Like we

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<v Speaker 5>had manicures that were reflective of like that that period

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<v Speaker 5>of time with you know that that sort of nail art.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really cool.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of amazing because, like I, I think I

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<v Speaker 5>was contracted for four of the ten episodes when I

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<v Speaker 5>signed on, and then I ended up doing eight because

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<v Speaker 5>as we were going along, they just sort of kind

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<v Speaker 5>of kept writing and they kept writing for my character.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in the.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess eighth episode they did a big reveal, but

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<v Speaker 5>we discover that, like my character is gay and she's

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<v Speaker 5>having an affair with another woman in this coffee clatch

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<v Speaker 5>right that we're following. And what those writers didn't know

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<v Speaker 5>was that I had fallen in love with a woman

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<v Speaker 5>in real life and that I was in the process of,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, leaving a marriage and and he didn't

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<v Speaker 5>even know that.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't know, They didn't know. Isn't that wild. That's

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<v Speaker 3>so wild. How art imitates life? Yeah, or life imitates heart?

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<v Speaker 3>What's the phrase? Exactly? Yes, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know I got that script and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my am I wearing a sign?

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<v Speaker 3>What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>But it was cool and it was cool to film,

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<v Speaker 5>and obviously, like I mean, it was all.

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<v Speaker 3>Suggestive, but yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was kind of an I think it was like

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<v Speaker 5>the universe like teeing me up to you know, have

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<v Speaker 5>the courage to do that, do that in my life,

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<v Speaker 5>in my real life. Yeah, that was fun. M Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's amazing. So that's why that's why I'm advocating.

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<v Speaker 3>For like gay Pippa as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's just get her out there like across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I know for a fact that that would resonate

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<v Speaker 3>with the viewers. Gay would definitely.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we just got to give them what they want,

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<v Speaker 5>give the fans what they want.

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<v Speaker 2>She was amazing, and I do have to say Jessica

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<v Speaker 2>came out on top for me in a personal way

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<v Speaker 2>because while I was in New York, my sister's like, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to see a Broadway show.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see Anne Juliette, And it's like bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>you could have given me a little more leeway. But

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<v Speaker 2>then Kara remembered that Jessica mentioned that her friend worked

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<v Speaker 2>at and Juliette, and so she hooked it up and

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<v Speaker 2>I got.

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<v Speaker 3>To go see it because we got tickets and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cocks and I got tickets from Pippa motherfucking cocks. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's like very thrilling. So thank you so much, Sjessica

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<v Speaker 2>and being such a good guest. And she listens. I hope,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what she feels about our rampage about

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<v Speaker 2>the Barber movie.

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<v Speaker 3>She was so freaking cool. We love Jessica Phillips. What

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<v Speaker 3>a queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, the shock too, Like I saw comic and a

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<v Speaker 2>friend Saturday and it was like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 2>loved it. You did too, And I got no, really

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<v Speaker 2>it was fine. I liked it and there were a

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<v Speaker 2>moment what like it's also the shock like people like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people are like nervous evens say something bad,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because then it's like you're against women. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>women should make bad movies all the time. That's like

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<v Speaker 2>the whole Yeah, yeah, that's the fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Jared's dying to see it because he wants talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me about it, but I'm like dreading it anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, because he's gonna love it. No, he's I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he is. I think he's gonna think it's

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<v Speaker 3>all over the place. To be honest, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna have it.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you think he's gonna join the right wing

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<v Speaker 2>and thinking they made men look like idiots?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he might think a little bit of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, you know what, I shouldn't even make I

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<v Speaker 1>think he'll be like, I don't know, they were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like mean, like how guys were like so stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to say, Jared, did put your daughter

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<v Speaker 2>in your underwear and send her to school? So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're a grown woman, Yeah, maybe you can. You

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<v Speaker 2>can tell him that they are tiny, tiny underwear. He actually, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>he just texted me. This is so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>He texted me he took Rosie to the zoos so

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<v Speaker 1>I could record, and he goes Rosie. A quote from

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie is that animal is hiding from creditors.

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<v Speaker 2>What she made creditors But she said creditors, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>it is. But I also would assume that Rosie knows

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<v Speaker 2>what a creditor is you know, That's why.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get it. That animal, that animal did not

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<v Speaker 3>pay her MasterCard and she has been going to her

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<v Speaker 3>up so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I did go to the pool with Kara and Rosie

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<v Speaker 2>and Oscar and it was really cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a lot of kids splashing us in

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<v Speaker 1>the face and Oscar kept going. Me and Lisa got

2:11:23.760 --> 2:11:26.120
<v Speaker 1>pina coladas and Oscar kept going, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 3>Drink your smoothie. Drink your smoothie. I liked when you go, Lisa,

2:11:30.720 --> 2:11:35.880
<v Speaker 3>do you like ice cream? Do you like tacos? He's

2:11:35.880 --> 2:11:38.280
<v Speaker 3>so obsessed with tacos right now because of Dragons love

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<v Speaker 3>Tacos the book. Anyway, listen, I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for Jared to be on Fox News

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<v Speaker 2>going the Barbie move. He was mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I got mad.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared's gonna be out at our grill burning them like

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Ben Shapiro, that little twerp.

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<v Speaker 2>I also, I know we have to talk about this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I did you know?

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<v Speaker 2>We watched so much as for you non recording, So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what episode is even in this? So

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<v Speaker 2>I googled Wednesday's child sv and there are the cutest

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<v Speaker 2>fucking photos.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to the images.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Amorrow, like Danny Pino and the kids from

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<v Speaker 2>the episode hugging backstage, it's Benson with the girls. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Benson smiling at the baby. But I love Amorrow and

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<v Speaker 2>the little blonde girl.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like so cute. Oh my god, she's got her

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<v Speaker 3>leg kicked up in the back. She's like loves meeting

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<v Speaker 3>Danny Pino.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like really fucking cute, So so cute. But

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to let you guys know if you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to see something cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we love talking to Jessica, And honestly, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening our casting mole, we got to get Pipa

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<v Speaker 1>Cocks back on. She's one of those characters that like

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a small part in every episode, but

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<v Speaker 1>we love her and we love talking about her.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to see where she is now because

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<v Speaker 2>she had to leave her job at child's Services.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you what do you do with your kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, like, how do you rebuild your life after you

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<v Speaker 1>find out that your partner and the father of your

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<v Speaker 1>children is a full child child you know, sex abuse, imagery,

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<v Speaker 1>a pedophile. But he didn't act on it, right, He

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<v Speaker 1>just had a lot of the stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if pedophile means you have to act

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<v Speaker 3>on it. Yeah, that's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And looking at images of children being raped makes you

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<v Speaker 2>a pedophile?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I was going to say. Purveyor of

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<v Speaker 1>child sex abuse images. It's the same thing. It's a pedophile.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's get Pippa back on. I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>what that bitches up to these days. As for this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the post mortem, Jesus, I didn't realize that there were dating.

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<v Speaker 3>A grift or in a wheelchair. Push them into a pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Aka from the episode Manipulated. You do not want to

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<v Speaker 2>be spongebathing that like that guy for no reason. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you if you start dating someone in a wheelchair, you

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<v Speaker 2>make sure they're really paralyzed. I would push them out,

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<v Speaker 2>shove them out. No, you gotta know if they can

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<v Speaker 2>walk or not. They could be scamming you. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>don't be shocked when a grift grifts you. I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you think, yeah, yeah, people are gonna treat

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<v Speaker 2>you the way they treat everyone else. Eventually you might

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<v Speaker 2>be I don't know if any of you have been

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<v Speaker 2>friends with narcissists before psychopaths. But they will do to

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<v Speaker 2>you what they've done to others. Yes, it's you're just

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<v Speaker 2>waiting on your turn. It's coming to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this the true situation with all these

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<v Speaker 1>adoptions and stuff that's so upsetting too. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we're not really doing adoptions with Russia right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do also feel like there are, like I

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<v Speaker 1>did reference some cases that are more current where people

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<v Speaker 1>like you, if you adopt a kid, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like ready for the whole, like kit and kaboodle

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<v Speaker 1>of like what parenthood, and it might not just be

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<v Speaker 1>like a perfectly like neurotypical, perfect child with no issues,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and like you cannot return to sunder.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess technically you can, but you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Connecticut, can we get some better laws, Yeah, some

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<v Speaker 2>stricter laws about being able to dump your kids somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Without Yeah, like no no official transfer, just give your

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<v Speaker 1>kid to another person. It's so crazy, but yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>was a this was a wild one this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can't adopt a kid from a fucking orphanage

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<v Speaker 2>and be like act normal kid, Like what the I know?

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<v Speaker 1>I know It's like, it's what you always say from

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<v Speaker 1>the Colleen Stand episode, like expecting people to act normal

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<v Speaker 1>after they've gone through not normal experiences and circumstances, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But also the dat it's just like, don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>kid if you don't want a kid like lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that lady was on pills. Man, that lady was

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<v Speaker 3>on pills. They din't cover it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I'm thinking the Arquettes. Let's let's get a movie

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<v Speaker 2>with all of you in it together. Yeah, all the Arcats,

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<v Speaker 2>love the Arcats.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get an ar Catte family variety show going on

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Netflix. No, nope, We're striking against all those companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Something live here in La. Anyway, let's get into our

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<v Speaker 1>what would Sister Peg do for the week. This is

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<v Speaker 1>our weekly segment where we direct you towards an organization,

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<v Speaker 1>an article, a podcast, a movie, something that will give

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<v Speaker 1>you more information about we talked about today, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. We talked about adoption, disruption and dissolution, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I wanted to point you to some resources at

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<v Speaker 1>child Welfare dot gov.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Child Weelfare dot Gov.

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<v Speaker 1>In the article specifically that I'm referencing will be in

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<v Speaker 1>our linked in our stories the day of the show release,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll always be saved in our WWSPD highlight. But

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<v Speaker 1>the resources provided on child weelforre dot gov are meant

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<v Speaker 1>to help families navigate an adoption that is disrupted or

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<v Speaker 1>ends in dissolution and links. You know, there's some links

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<v Speaker 1>to some other information there that I think can be

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<v Speaker 1>helpful and instructive if you just want to know more

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<v Speaker 1>about this topic or if you are in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>like this or no someone who is.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for that. And I do have

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<v Speaker 2>to say one more thing about Barbie with that bench scene,

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like, even if that old woman feels great

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<v Speaker 2>and is like, oh yeah, I'm beautiful, duh, the world

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<v Speaker 2>is not treating them the same and it's ignoring that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's why it's so annoying when people are like,

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<v Speaker 2>love yourself, and it's like lots of people do. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>but the world is not gonna they don't like. They

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<v Speaker 2>actually don't like if you're if you do not look

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<v Speaker 2>like Barbie and you like yourself, people actually don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So even if the old woman knows it, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>this idea of like the picture the stereotypical Barbie of

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<v Speaker 2>like the beauty we find beautiful telling other people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, stop acting like that. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, no matter how you feel about yourself, no

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<v Speaker 2>one will ever be treated the way Barbie, a person

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<v Speaker 2>like Barbie is treated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeh know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like it's what's it's condescending, gotcha, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>condescending and delusion.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean she's a Barbie. She doesn't know the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like it comes from a place where

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<v Speaker 1>she's opening up. I hear what you're saying, and the

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<v Speaker 1>movie could have done more of that. But like that

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie herself, she does not know people get to that age.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no old Barbie like so I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she's like seeing women.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, why didn't I make an old Barbie? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>old lady Barbie.

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<v Speaker 1>Her kids are out of the house and now she

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<v Speaker 1>loves a glass of wine before bed.

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<v Speaker 2>Her little side things are like a vagina lubricant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what else?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, remov she has little Beniva chocolate's next to her bed.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, she's like, this is a heating pad.

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<v Speaker 1>I threw my back out doing yoga. Yeah, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>We love Old Barbie Stan Old Barbie.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anyways, next week we'll be doing Lead.

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<v Speaker 3>That is season ten, episode fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Lad everybody, Yes, we'll see you guys next week.

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