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Speaker 2: I'm in Williston, North Dakota, with Latino USA producer Rinaldo

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Speaker 1: You've got like a lot of Latin American Latina women

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Speaker 2: We're sitting in a big but cozy booth at a

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Speaker 3: It's called Segnor Egg.

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Speaker 2: The restaurant is closed now, They've moved the tables out

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Speaker 3: Tonight it's Latino night.

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Speaker 2: There was nothing like this in Williston last time, and

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Speaker 2: I can tell this place is going to be popping

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Speaker 2: You might see one here or there, but tonight in Williston,

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Speaker 3: It's a really interesting vibe.

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Speaker 2: The oil boom has lured thousands of Latinos into this

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Speaker 4: Everyone has to dream. My dream was like to on

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Speaker 2: As a teenager, David lived in Arizona and there worked

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Speaker 4: Here we serve reafasts, lunch and dinner, so we mixed

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Speaker 3: Up like crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's a small town. The word is spread out like crazy.

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Speaker 2: David is expecting a pretty good turnout. There's no doubt

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Speaker 2: It's not for the faint of heart. The freezing winters,

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Speaker 3: The answer, as always, is complicated.

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Speaker 2: From FUTU Media and PRX, It's Latino USA I'm Maria

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Speaker 2: jo Josa today.

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Speaker 3: Ever since the.

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Speaker 3: This is part one.

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Speaker 2: There is some data that sticks with me, and I

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Speaker 2: because North Dakota saw an almost one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: Welcome to North Dakota, the state the recession, for god.

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Speaker 5: The industry came here and the politicians opened the doors

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Speaker 2: Of course here in North Dakota, oil touches everything. The

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Speaker 4: Tonight, police moving in forcibly arrest seeing the remaining pipeline

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Speaker 6: A US district court on Monday ruled the Dakota Access

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Speaker 2: we're going to get to know who are the Latinos

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Speaker 3: Very clear trend.

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Speaker 2: We met a lot of Latinos and Latinas who work

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Speaker 2: Williston has a population of about thirty two thousand people

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Speaker 3: His name is Andres Murillo. He's twenty years old.

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Speaker 2: He looks a little bit like a slim and much

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Speaker 7: I'm from California.

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Speaker 8: I was born over there, but I both my parents

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Speaker 2: Andres moved to North Dakota three years ago when he

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Speaker 8: Well, my brother was living here at the time, so

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Speaker 7: I ended up landing this. I'm pretty fairly easy.

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Speaker 3: And it Is, says the money here has been really

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Speaker 8: Like, financially, I'm doing well. I don't feel like I've

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Speaker 2: Did you feel like your parents were always a little

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Speaker 7: It's yeah, definitely, you don't feel that here.

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Speaker 8: I've never felt that way compared to when I would

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Speaker 2: What about the fields? Are you interested in going and

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Speaker 7: I actually yeah, I wouldn't mind doing the fields at all.

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Speaker 3: What's the attraction to going to work in the fields?

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Speaker 7: Oh, definitely the money, that's it.

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Speaker 3: What do you know about the money in the fields.

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Speaker 7: I've heard people getting paid thirty five an hour and above.

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Speaker 8: They'll work two weeks on, two weeks off, and some

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Speaker 3: Let's put that into context.

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Speaker 2: Workers in the oil extraction business here make over fifty

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Speaker 8: Well, when I left California, I became Republican, and I

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Speaker 8: Nobody's going to tell you anything. Nobody's going to scream

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Speaker 7: Everybody's just been pretty respectful here.

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Speaker 3: North Dakota is a predominantly red state.

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Speaker 2: According to a Pew Research poll, almost eighty percent of

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Speaker 2: During the twenty twenty presidential election, sixty five percent of

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Speaker 2: Trump was big on oil, and he wanted the US

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Speaker 2: to produce more. He was also pro fracking, a extraction

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Speaker 2: Trump made US stop in Fargo, North Dakota in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 9: So in a few moments, I will sign two groundbreaking

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Speaker 2: During his presidency, Trump rolled back regulations on the oil

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Speaker 2: he limited state's abilities to block oil, gas and other

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Speaker 7: A lot better.

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Speaker 3: Your parents came without papers.

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Speaker 7: Yes, then they became citizens the wall was built.

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Speaker 8: Well, if they didn't come here, I probably wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: But you do see the contradiction, right, I do see

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Speaker 2: And it is believes that the economy was stronger under

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Speaker 2: He also says he likes Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and

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Speaker 2: Latinos like Andres who identify as Republicans.

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Speaker 3: Aren't anything new.

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Speaker 2: Historically, Republicans have gotten about a third of the Latino

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Speaker 2: It's something they're Republican governors and senators have campaigned on.

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Speaker 2: They call for pumping out more oil and natural gas

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Speaker 10: The Secretary of State's office protects the security of our elections,

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Speaker 2: This is the voice of Michael Howe. He's the Republican

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Speaker 2: Central Willisdon it's a little bit empty because it's the

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Speaker 2: Her name is Marinac Carrillo. And she pulls out a

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Speaker 11: So all the light that you see on day on

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Speaker 11: Someone's a crew oil gas, hydrocarbon, what are a natural gas?

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Speaker 2: Seeing this map was incredibly revealing to me. The map

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Speaker 2: it's just the part of this land that has not

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Speaker 2: The thing is, you don't see what's happening in terms

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Speaker 2: In fact, it's estimated that more than sixteen thousand wells

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Speaker 11: Where you see more drilling is where the more Hispanics are.

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Speaker 2: Mariina is petite, She's got dark black curly hair, with

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Speaker 2: a really big smile, and very energetic. She's originally from

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Speaker 3: But in recent weeks there's been a workforce problem. The

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Speaker 2: And the thing is is that oil jobs and demographic

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Speaker 2: Marina is part of this changing landscape. But for us,

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Speaker 3: The oil wells actually are.

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Speaker 2: So coming up on Latino USA, we head to the

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Speaker 3: Also who benefits from it.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us, notes, Hey, we're back, and when we

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Speaker 2: the different jobs. Latinos and Latinas are performing within this sector.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the story. It's a

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Speaker 2: gorgeous late afternoon in Williston and the sky is bright blue.

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Speaker 2: Producer Renaldos Junior and I find ourselves walking over to

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Speaker 2: when we spot something that well, it catches our eyes.

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Speaker 3: Boy, you really did like Trump.

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Speaker 2: On the floor in the backseat of her truck is

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Speaker 2: a big black floor mat. It reads Trump twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: Keep America Great. You're not hiding your politics. Wow, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's very Interestingana who likes Trump?

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Speaker 12: See, I can't.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure might he not identify as a Republican. It's

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Speaker 2: not clear how many Latinos here in North Dakota actually

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Speaker 3: You are unabashedly a Trump supporter, yes, and you have

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Speaker 2: Being a Mexican born immigrant Trump supporter.

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Speaker 11: No, No, I don't. I don't have a problem with that.

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Speaker 2: And that's all because of his position on.

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Speaker 11: Oil, not just that but I'm one of those persons

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Speaker 3: And you don't think that Trump is a politician.

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Speaker 11: Not as much. Not as much. He's a business man.

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Speaker 2: And you think that that helps you in terms of

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Speaker 11: Maybe if I would have been another place, I would

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Speaker 2: So your parents were a little freaked out about the

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Speaker 12: Is that really yes?

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Speaker 11: And so after I told them that just take away

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Speaker 11: then you're going to see what I'm seeing. And it

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Speaker 2: We're driving along a main road and we pull off

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Speaker 2: And this rig is set up to drill and look

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Speaker 2: Now there's the rig, but there's also portable trailers driving

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Speaker 2: There's other equipment scattered around. There's a trailer for the workers.

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Speaker 11: So the people there is working, see their hat hats.

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Speaker 2: Marina tells us that companies need to follow government requirements

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Speaker 3: Just a roundabout?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think some depends on the company. But there

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Speaker 3: But before any of this labor intensive work can start,

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Speaker 11: So just by looking at the land, I can't tell

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Speaker 3: A private property.

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Speaker 2: If someone had to work with these extraction companies, they

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Speaker 11: I can't just set up a rig wherever I want to.

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Speaker 3: So how long do you think this rig has been up?

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Speaker 2: And how long will it stay up? Marina says it varies.

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Speaker 2: how big that reserve is. After the really in the

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure there are people who are like, it's

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Speaker 2: like you're ruining the nature. Look what you're doing. You're coming,

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Speaker 2: You're like arassando, You're putting up you know, barbed wire fences.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're just changing the whole landscape and you're

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Speaker 11: Yes, So what that is called the reclamation of the lane.

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Speaker 2: Can I just ask you, is that always true one

446
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent that the reclamation of the land really leaves

447
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 2: it just the way it was?

448
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 11: They had to comply with the law, and if they don't,

449
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 11: they will close a business or they have a really

450
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 11: big find.

451
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: But the science says it's impossible for the land to

452
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: go back to what it was.

453
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: When fracking is involved.

454
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: Trees, plants, other vegetation are essentially uprooted, and animals are

455
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: impacted too because their natural habitat is destroyed. For example,

456
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: it's been documented that bird species that deer and bobcats

457
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: have been displaced from the areas where there's.

458
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: Fracking that goes on.

459
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: The process of fracking involves injecting water, chemicals, and sand

460
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: into the earth at super high pressures in order to

461
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: break the oil or natural gas free from inside the

462
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: deep rocks, and that can contaminate groundwater. It can also

463
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: induce earthquakes, and it can expose people to inhaling toxic chemicals.

464
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Some Native American communities have long protested about how the

465
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: use of fracking, oil and gas are affecting their land,

466
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: and they've led massive movements in recent history that have

467
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 2: stopped or paused some big oil development projects, like the

468
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: North Dakota Access Pipeline at Standing Rock. I documented this

469
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: historic protest for Latino USA six years ago, and while

470
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: I was at Standing Rock, I spoke with Terrahauska.

471
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Speaker 3: She's a tribal attorney in Washington, d C.

472
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Speaker 13: I mean, I never thought that there would be this

473
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 13: coming together of hundreds of indigenous nations against a single pipeline.

474
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 2: What I saw on the ground at Standing Rock was

475
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: a protest movement that was led by Indigenous peoples, but

476
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: there were people from everywhere in the United States that

477
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: were showing up to protest.

478
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: And there were Latinos and Latinas there.

479
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: Back to Marina and our tour showing us all of

480
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: the jobs that are available for Latinos and Latinas to

481
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: take in the oil and gas industry, we sit down

482
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: now to talk with Marina about the tensions with the

483
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: Native American communities nearby. What do you say to critics

484
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: who say, you're just here for the work, you're not

485
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: thinking about the long term, the long term and the land.

486
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: What do you say to them?

487
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 11: The majority of them, obviously they care about They care

488
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 11: about the land, and then they care about their future

489
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 11: and what are they going to give to the futuritys

490
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 11: not just around here but around the globe. And obviously

491
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 11: we can all sympathize with that, however, they understand and

492
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 11: they know the need for them to provide for their

493
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 11: kids as well.

494
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: How do you respond to critics who are Native American

495
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: who say, hey, what are you doing?

496
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: Too many too fast? And on the other side, you're

497
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: depleting Mother Earth. I can't we have to protect her.

498
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: So what do you say to that.

499
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 11: I don't know, God or Mother Earth. I don't know.

500
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 11: How do you want to call it? And how the

501
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 11: concentration of the majority of the other reservoir that is

502
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 11: economically fast of all for them to produce it's an

503
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 11: that reservation. I found that ironic and I think they're

504
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 11: having the last laugh.

505
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: Marina has very strong feelings about the oil and gas industry,

506
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: and then she tells me it's not just about the industry.

507
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: There's something very personal about what this place, this moment

508
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: in her life represents. She tells me that she lived

509
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: in Missouri before moving to North Dakota in two thousand

510
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: and nine with her husband, who she tells me, was

511
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: abusive at the time. Marina says it was because of

512
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: the economic opportunities that she found in North Dakota and

513
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: especially in the oil industry, that she was able to

514
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: leave her husband, be safe and provide for her three

515
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: children on her own.

516
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 11: It took me a lot of time, but only because

517
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 11: of North Dakota. It helped me. I get my freedom

518
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 11: in Norvdakota.

519
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: So for Marina it was essentially about saving her life.

520
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: It is very personal and for a lot of peace people,

521
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: Latinos and Latinas, they feel that in this state oil

522
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: and gas is actually an opportunity for a new beginning,

523
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: as a way to get ahead financially. But at the

524
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: same time, the reality is that this industry has a

525
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: dark side. It has impacted both the environment and Native

526
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: American communities who have been here since way before the

527
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: oil boom. Ray and I are now in a car

528
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: driving around with a woman named Lisa Deville. She's an

529
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Indigenous environmental activist and she lives on the Fort Berthole Reservation.

530
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: And it was on this reservation where I visited almost

531
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: a decade ago to report on what the oil and

532
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: gas industry's effects was having on this land.

533
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: What I see now after being away.

534
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: About a decade is some parts of Fort Berthole have

535
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: kind of stayed the same, like nothing has changed. And

536
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: then there are other parts where I see some sprucing up.

537
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: I see some development, I see new housing. I see

538
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: a large Native American community center. So it's an interesting dynamic.

539
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 12: Because I want to show you something.

540
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: Lisa lives here on the Fort Berth Hale Reservation.

541
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: About twenty percent of all of.

542
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: The oil that's produced in North Dakota comes out of

543
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: the wells on this reservation, and oil has brought in

544
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: about a billion dollars in tax revenue to Native American

545
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: communities living here since the start of the boom. The

546
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: communities that live on this reservation are the man Dan, Hidatsa,

547
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: and Aricara nations. Here it's known as the three Affiliated

548
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Tribes and there are more than seventeen thousand members. Lisa

549
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: and her husband Walter are gonna take us around the

550
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 2: reservation and show us what they say is the environmental

551
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 2: damage that the oil and gas industry is causing here.

552
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 12: So this past year, since we've had so much rain,

553
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 12: and it's nice to see.

554
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 9: You know.

555
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: The thing about the reservation and North Dakota in the

556
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: summertime is that there is green as far as the

557
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: eye can see. This is a flat landscape, but it

558
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: goes on forever, and that's exactly where Lisa and Walter

559
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: decide to make a stop. So, Lisa, what does that

560
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: represent to you, the fact that you've got this old

561
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: style rig and now you've got these other modern looking rigs.

562
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, some people are going to say, oh,

563
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: this is this is progress. What do you see?

564
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 12: You know what, no matter what it is, you disturb

565
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 12: the earth, no matter do you extract, it's still gonna

566
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 12: do something. I still see environmental destruction.

567
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: And yet people from the oil and gas industry will say,

568
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 2: but but look we're changing things. It's less of an

569
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: eye sore.

570
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 12: Oh, we got the safest way to do it, that's

571
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 12: what they say. Yep, I'm gonna show you this is

572
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 12: a new rig. Right here, we see a bunch of

573
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 12: junk coming off.

574
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: We pull over on the side of the road and

575
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: we see some black smoke coming out of this work site.

576
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: Lisa talks about how concerned she is about this smoke

577
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: and about the flaring, the flames that come out of

578
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: the rigs from the natural gas that's burning, because she says,

579
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: they pollute the air and they can cause respiratory issues.

580
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 12: It's been going on for the past twelve years and

581
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 12: without regulations, without you know, making sure that we're holding

582
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 12: industry accountable. Industry has more of voice than our own

583
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 12: people have.

584
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: Here, Lisa says MANDAREI. This town here is a tight

585
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: knit community of about seven hundred people. There's a gas

586
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 2: station in town, there's a school, there's a small community center.

587
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: That's pretty much it in this town, although it's surrounded

588
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: by nature. Lisa tells us that she's fed up with

589
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: the environmental destruction happening around her community, and she says

590
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: the current tribal chairman, Mark N. Fox is part of

591
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: the problem. He's been the chairman since twenty fourteen.

592
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 12: What he's doing is oil is everything. Oil and gas

593
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 12: is everything. Oil is cuts in red tape. You know,

594
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 12: will be all right now, understanding that really that what

595
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 12: we do today. Our children are left with it and

596
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 12: more affected everybody downstream.

597
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: We reached out to Mark Fox for common but did

598
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: not hear back. Before Mark Fox, the chairman in charge

599
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: of the Fort Berth Hole Reservation was Tex Hall. I

600
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: met Tex Hall about a decade ago when I was

601
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: here reporting for my PBS show called America by the Numbers.

602
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: Tex was also a big supporter of the oil and

603
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: gas industry. This is from when I spoke to tex

604
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: Hall for my documentary in the year twenty fourteen.

605
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Speaker 5: Our land has been stole, treaty has broken. We had alcoholism, unemployment, poverty.

606
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 5: We've had some bad things in our past. Now we

607
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 5: got another chance to creators, give us a blessing.

608
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: More than twelve hundred wells are pumping over two hundred

609
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: and ninety five thousand barrels of oil per day, almost

610
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: a third of North Dakota's total production. Four years ago,

611
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 2: the tribe was one hundred and twenty five million dollars

612
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: in debt. Today, with the money received from its wells,

613
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: the tribe is debt free. Shortly after my visit those

614
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: years ago, tex Hall was put under an investigation by

615
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: the tribal council and he lost his reelection bid for

616
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: tribal chairmen. Lisa has been raising awareness of the dangers

617
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: of fracking for a while now. She's written off eds,

618
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: she's spoken on panels, and she ran for local office

619
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: on the state level of North Dakota back in twenty twenty.

620
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: She lost. Her Republican challenger won almost seventy percent of

621
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: the vote.

622
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 12: We used to be able to come down here. Pick

623
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 12: Jewnberry's plums choke. Jerry's used to do all that, all

624
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 12: the way through my grandmother's land on this side, all

625
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 12: the way through my husband's lane on the other side.

626
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: We stand and survey the land that goes on forever,

627
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: the different colored grasses, and Lisa talks about growing up

628
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: with this land, taking care of it, being fed by it.

629
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Speaker 2: She talks about the memories of those times that she

630
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: spent out here with her grandmother. When you say that

631
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: you used to be able to pick everywhere is it?

632
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: Are you saying that you can't do that now?

633
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 7: Who heart?

634
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 12: It's hard to find. Yeah, a lot of it's hard

635
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 12: to find. It's not like how it used to be.

636
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 12: Plums used to just go and pick them right off

637
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 12: the tree. Can't do that anymore.

638
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: She says.

639
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: Her grandmother used to tell her that one day people

640
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: would come onto their land and destroy.

641
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 12: And my grandmother's told me that this was going to

642
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 12: be here one time. If you don't get your education,

643
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 12: you're not going to know what it is that you're

644
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 12: signing or what you're reading.

645
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened to Lisa's grandmother. Lisa says

646
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: people from an oil company showed up at her grandmother's

647
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: door back in two thousand and eight. They promised her

648
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: money and all she had to do was sign elise

649
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: that would allow the company to be on her land

650
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: for a while to extract natural resources. Lisa says there

651
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: were no lawyers present, just her grandmother and oil representatives,

652
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: so she wasn't fully aware of what she was signing.

653
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Lisa says her grandmother struggled with what to do, but

654
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 2: she ultimately signed because she hoped the money might help

655
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: her family, and it did. Lisa says this happened across

656
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: the reservation and many people signed because they wanted to

657
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 2: better their economic prospects for generations to come. In fact,

658
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 2: Lisa and her husband Walter also lead some of their

659
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: land to the oil and gas industry, and they also

660
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: get paid for that. We're making our way down the

661
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: road and then we passed by something that really stands

662
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: out here on the reservation. It's a massive, new, big,

663
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: two story building, I mean big, and it's filled covered

664
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: with glass windows.

665
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Speaker 3: It opened earlier this year. It's a school.

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Speaker 2: And then a little ways down the road we pass

667
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: a firehouse that was built last year, also big, bright

668
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: and new.

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Speaker 12: Everybody wanted a fire hall. You know, that was the

670
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 12: most important need here in Mandaree. Because of that, we

671
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 12: were having all these fires from oil and gas, and

672
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 12: it was taking a whole hour and a half for

673
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 12: them to get to the fire from like thirty minutes

674
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 12: away all the surrounding communities.

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00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: The community wanted the fire station because last year an

676
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: oil site caught on fire and it burned down more

677
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: than eight hundred acres on the reservation. We keep on

678
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: going and just down the road, Lisa and her husband

679
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: Walter pull over again, this time to point out something

680
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: in the distance.

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00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 12: See how cools Thist pipeline is to those families.

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00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: About one hundred feet away from a mobile home is

683
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: an oil pipeline that she says is just way too

684
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: close to the family's homes. Lisa worries that a pipeline

685
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: could explode or leak at any moment. In fact, there

686
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: have been several crude oil spills just this year.

687
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 12: That's how cools are. People are living to these pipelines.

688
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 12: Our pipelines here are like the bloodveins of Mother Earth.

689
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 12: I mean it's really really terrible. I mean they're putting

690
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 12: them anywhere and everywhere. So we got to worry about

691
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 12: the contamination of al kafers all the time.

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00:42:52,560 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: Lisa says, for her community of Mandan people, water is life, Kah.

693
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 12: Water sacred, use it for everything. When you're when you're

694
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 12: in your mother's womb, that's what you're in water. So

695
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 12: I mean, where are we going wrong? It's because money

696
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 12: is replacing our identity.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on Latino, USA, we continue our toxic tour

698
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: with Lisa and we hear about how she's trying to

699
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: bring change to her community.

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00:43:24,200 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: Stay with us, yes.

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00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 5: M.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we're back.

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Speaker 2: Before the break, we met up with Lisa Deville, an

704
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: indigenous environmental activist. She's taking us around the Fort Berthole

705
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: Reservation to see some of the environmental impact that the

706
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: oil and gas industry is having on her community.

707
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back to the story.

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Speaker 2: We're in Lisa and her husband, Walter's pickup truck, and

709
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: we're driving slowly through the reservation, just taking in all

710
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: of the amazing nature. It feels like right now there's

711
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of abundance. When I was here a

712
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: decade ago, it was November, it was brown, it was cold.

713
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: There's so much green right now, and I'm wondering how

714
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: you put together.

715
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: The notion of this abundant.

716
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: Nature that you're looking at, and then all of a sudden,

717
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, my goodness, there's the oil rig.

718
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: Right.

719
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: Walter points out that some of the plants that we're

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00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: looking at are actually medicinal plants.

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00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 14: Some say, you know, well, our medicines are contaminated, you know,

722
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 14: but we still use them, you know, to help ourselves.

723
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: When you're on the reservation, you understand how deeply people

724
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: feel connected to the nature all around them because sage plants,

725
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: sweet grass, peppermint, all of this. They're important to Lisa

726
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: Walter's community because they are part of their culture and

727
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: their traditions.

728
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: They use them in cleansinges and in ceremonies.

729
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 14: You know, when somebody asks, you know, for prayers or whatnot.

730
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 14: You know, we we try to do the best we

731
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 14: can with what we have.

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Speaker 3: There's also a lot of livestock.

733
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: Everywhere you look, like, there's like what fifty cows were there,

734
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: and a stone's throw literally i don't know, three four

735
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: or five blocks along with right, there's a flare, there's towers,

736
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: there's drilling, and it's just like, ah, they're drinking water.

737
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: A stone's throw, you know. I mean, you just have

738
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: to ask the question, right.

739
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Speaker 12: Because every flare, with every league, with every venting, we

740
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 12: are contributing to climate change and global warming. And that's

741
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 12: the reason why we're having more severe weather activity. I mean,

742
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 12: the flooding all around and the severe heat. I mean,

743
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 12: I keep saying that to my travel with my consul.

744
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 12: You know, we're adding more and our earth is burning up.

745
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: The oil and gas industry itself, as well as all

746
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: of the gases that come out of our cars and

747
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: factories and so many other places, account for more than

748
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: forty percent of greenhouse gas emissions on a global scale.

749
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 2: The United States is the second biggest polluter in the world,

750
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: second only to China. Lisa says that in addition to

751
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: the environmental concerns she has, there are other problems that

752
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: have popped up with the oil boom. That same morning,

753
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: right before we met her, she had just come back

754
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: from a funeral.

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Speaker 12: My son's one of his good friends. They played basketball together,

756
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 12: they all grew up together. But here he overdosed.

757
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 13: Yep.

758
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 12: Then we just buried my niece Wednesday. She overdosed and

759
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 12: Bismarck and he overdosed in Mina. So no matter where

760
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 12: you go, it's here.

761
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: When I was here a decade ago or so, the

762
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: problem with overdoses were with people shooting heroin cocaine overdoses.

763
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: It was a very specific kind of drug because there

764
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: was a lot of cash suddenly on the reservation and

765
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: narcos knew and saw a market they wanted to take

766
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: advantage of. But now what's happened on the reservation, Like

767
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: in the rest of the country, they're battling an opioid

768
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: epidemic in this community. But for Lisa, it all started

769
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 2: with what I remember seeing those years ago.

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Speaker 12: I noticed that a lot of man camps coming in

771
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 12: and you know, more people, more issues, you know, more drugs,

772
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 12: more alcoholism, prostitution, trafficking and what comes with oil and gas,

773
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 12: more money, more problems.

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00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: Basically, among those who came to North Dakota to work

775
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: in those years were more and more Latinos and Latinas.

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00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 2: So when I was here ten years ago, you could

777
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: see the Latinos Mexicans the work. You know, what do

778
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: you see now on the reservation and their role as

779
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 2: workers in the oil business.

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00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 12: You know what I see a lot of them, the manual,

781
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 12: hard labor, people like, but I never see a lot

782
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 12: of them in the executive I see a lot of

783
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 12: the white people in that power. That's what I see anyways.

784
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 12: But still the challenging, most challenging thing is that seeing

785
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 12: the invasion of people coming in that don't understand how

786
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 12: we're connected to land and what this land means to us.

787
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 2: So you don't look at Latinos coming and doing the

788
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: oil work here as necessarily a part of the problem.

789
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 12: You know what, LEM say this, they're here to work,

790
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 12: and I know that's what they're only here for. And

791
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 12: so anyone that comes here because of oil, that's only

792
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 12: what they're here for. Do they care about the land?

793
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 12: I think about this about everybody that comes here. Do

794
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 12: they care about the land? So iata who comes here

795
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 12: is all about the money, not sitting down and understanding

796
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 12: why this land is important.

797
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: To So for you, anybody who is in the rush

798
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: to come right now into North Dakota for you, essentially

799
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 2: all of them are a little bit suspect. Yeah, yes,

800
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: maybe there are good people who want to come and

801
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: do activism and help you, and so you see them

802
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: as allies. But everybody else who's coming to make money

803
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: with this oil rush, You're like, we're not on the

804
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: same page.

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00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 12: While you know, I do get along with everybody, and

806
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 12: I know that everyone has to make a living, especially

807
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 12: in today's world because of the inflation and all that.

808
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: But it seems like you're saying, Okay, we understand you

809
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: want to make money, but see that we want to

810
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: be protected. Yes, and you're not even willing to spend

811
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: the money to even see if you're protected at the

812
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: basic level.

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00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 12: Yes, that's what it all comes down to, is whole

814
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 12: industry accountable and protecting the only land that we have left.

815
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: We are winding up our afternoon on the reservation. Lisa

816
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: and her husband Walter know the final spot that they

817
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: want to take us on this toxic tour.

818
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 12: You want to go on her?

819
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 3: Do you want to go down there?

820
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: We park and there's a hill that's very steep and

821
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: it goes down very quickly, and I need to go

822
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: change my shoes because now I realize I've got to

823
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: go down that hill with my producer Ray following Lisa.

824
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 7: So right now where we headed, Right now.

825
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 12: Right now, we're on a location of where the one

826
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 12: million gallon Bryant's will happen back in twenty fourteen and

827
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 12: where the where it's spilled is down this hill here.

828
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: One of the things people here fear the most is

829
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: a leak, a pipeline leak. In fact, there was a

830
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: leak of more than a million gallons of salt water

831
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: while they were drilling here. It destroyed any vegetation that

832
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: it touched, and the clean up effort took weeks. We're

833
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: walking down this rocky path, trying to not lose our balance,

834
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: trying to get to the foot of the hill. All

835
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: we see around us are green trees and anything. If

836
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: you miss a step here, you're gonna go tumbling down.

837
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: So it's a beautiful, but you know, precarious hike. But

838
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: Lisa really wants us to see the lasting damage that

839
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,479
Speaker 2: can happen from a brine spill. She tells us about

840
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: how she first learned about the spill.

841
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 12: That day, I got a phone call from one of

842
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 12: my friends. She said, I don't know, but something's going

843
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 12: on back here. She said her. All those trees right

844
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 12: there were all brown. So you like that tree back

845
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 12: there looks brown, Yeah, that's kind of like how it was.

846
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 12: But when they chopped them down, you could see how

847
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 12: the the tree was dying. It was dying from the

848
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 12: all side.

849
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: In immediately to our left, we can spot a row

850
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: of brown trees, trees that absorbed some of that brine.

851
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 2: You have all of this green, all of this green,

852
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: all of this green, and then right here you start seeing, wait,

853
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: that's a dead tree. That's a dead tree. That's a

854
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: dead tree. That's a dead tree. And there's like a

855
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 2: bunch of dead trees.

856
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 12: And when all the way down it but along this

857
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 12: a little stream that comes down just right around the bin.

858
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 12: Here is our intake. We would get our drinking water.

859
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: At the time of the spill, one of the main

860
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: concerns was whether or not the brine had reached the

861
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: nearby lake, because the lake provides drinking water for communities

862
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: all around. Two days after the spill, the Environmental Protection

863
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: Agency said that there was no confirmed reports of contaminated water,

864
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: but Lisa says the damage left behind is still evident

865
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: by these dead trees and some of the dead vegetation,

866
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 2: and she says it's been eight years already. Lisa also

867
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: brings up that a spill like this can literally happen

868
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: anywhere else on the reservation, and that worries her. Lisa says,

869
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: seeing the evidence of the environmental damage all around her

870
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: is what keeps her going. So after all of these years,

871
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: that's why she's decided she's going to run for office again.

872
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: So you're doing a lot of this activism, you're centering

873
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: the earth, but you're also centering democracy and politics.

874
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: You're running for office. So what do you see for

875
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: the future in this area.

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00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 12: I want to make sure that our environment's protected. I'm

877
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 12: hoping we have more Indigenous people at the legislation or

878
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 12: at every level of government.

879
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: And in terms of the kind of demographics of North Dakota,

880
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: where the Latino Latina population has grown triple digits, how

881
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: do you see them in what's the future of your state?

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Speaker 12: I don't know. Are they here to stay?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 12: I don't know if they're here to stay. They're here,

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Speaker 12: you know, because of the oil, and that's what I

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Speaker 12: see a whole lot of And I hear a lot

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Speaker 12: of that that they're like, they're like us, but we

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Speaker 12: don't actually get to sit down and visit with them.

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Speaker 12: But I wouldn't mind working with them. I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 12: working with all people.

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Speaker 2: Lisa raises a pretty important and central question. Are Latinos

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Speaker 2: and Latina's planning to stay in North Dakota, and well,

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Speaker 2: it's a difficult question.

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Speaker 3: There's no real easy answer.

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Speaker 2: What we do know is that the oil industry offers

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Speaker 2: well paid jobs. It offers an opportunity to build a

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Speaker 2: better future. It's also a place where conservative Latinos say

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Speaker 2: they feel welcome. But working in the oil and gas

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Speaker 2: industry is hard. The winters here are frigid, to say

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Speaker 2: the least, so some Latinos, like Miguel Castillo Perees say

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Speaker 2: they can't actually wait to leave.

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Speaker 3: Sadly, he says, the industry, though, feels like a.

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Speaker 4: Trap trasi famental requs.

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Speaker 2: But other Latinos are calling North Dakota home and they're

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Speaker 2: committed to becoming a part of the social fabric of

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Speaker 2: this state that's growing at the fastest pace in the

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Speaker 2: entire country. Latinas like Yolanda Rojas Sorry.

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Speaker 13: After story, I would hear people say I'm just here

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Speaker 13: for work because this isn't home. So then I started

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Speaker 13: asking why is this not home? Why can't they call

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Speaker 13: Watford City home?

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Speaker 7: It's my home. I love it here.

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Speaker 13: I've discovered a beauty, it's peaceful place.

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Speaker 2: Next week on our show, we'll meet some of the

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Speaker 2: Latinos and Latinas who are changing North Dakota. Stay tuned

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Speaker 2: for part two of our reporting next week. This episode

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Speaker 2: was produced by Rinaldo Leo Junior and edited by Marta Martinez.

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Speaker 3: It was mixed by Rosa Nacaban.

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Speaker 2: Research and fact checking for this episode by Elizabeth Lental Dorris.

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Speaker 2: The Latino USA team includes Andrea Lopez Cruzado, Daisy Contreras,

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Speaker 2: Sergeant Julieta Martinelli, Victoria Stradra, Alejandra Salasad, Patricia Sulbaran, and

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Speaker 2: Julia Rocha, with help from Rau Perez.

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Speaker 3: Our editorial director is Fernande Santos. Our director of engineering

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Speaker 3: is Stephanie Lebau. Our senior engineer is Julia Caruso.

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Speaker 2: Our associate engineers are Gabriel Lebias and jj Carubin.

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Speaker 3: Our marketing manager is Luis Lunar.

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Speaker 2: Listen to all of our Latino USA podcast episodes on

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Speaker 2: Amazon Music. Our theme music was composed by Ze Ruinos.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host and executive producer Maria no Posa. Join

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Speaker 2: us again on our next episode. In the meantime, look

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Speaker 2: for us on your social media and remember no debayes.

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Speaker 6: Chao Latino USA is made possible in part by the

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Speaker 6: John D. And Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Ford Foundation,

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Speaker 6: working with visionaries on the front lines of social change worldwide,

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Speaker 6: and Hispanics in philanthropy.

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Speaker 3: Wow, fifty cows. Oh my god, I'm so New York.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen fifty cows.

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Speaker 6: Not in Manhattan.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring fifty cows to Manhattan. Fifty cows to Manhattan,

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Speaker 3: all right,