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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, July twenty six, two twenty one, Season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number three. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We're live from Oxnard, California. It is day five training

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Speaker 1: Camp twoy twenty one, presented by American Airlines. Got David

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Speaker 1: Nick here with me. We got a lot of topics

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Speaker 1: we want to hit today. We'll get to a new segment. Actually,

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Speaker 1: in the final portion of our show, I call it

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Speaker 1: I get around. Well, let's see how much these guys

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Speaker 1: get around here in the In the final segment, we

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Speaker 1: got some player names. They're gonna throw to them and

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Speaker 1: see how much they can tell us about that. Well,

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Speaker 1: you do like that? Well, I mean probably one of

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Speaker 1: our new players. Maybe never mind, we'll see. We'll see

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Speaker 1: what names we gotta throw out for you guys. But

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Speaker 1: before we get started, Nick you said before the show

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Speaker 1: miss one. You know, one of our listeners, a long

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Speaker 1: time listeners, My dad, Tim Meetman's his birthday. Awesome, happy birthday,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to him, a whole life. It always happens

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Speaker 1: when I'm out of camp, so every people, I hope

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Speaker 1: he's listening, and uh, happy Bob Lily, Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: he's getting up there. That hold on, let me see

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Speaker 1: if there's another player nobly Yeah, no, probably, you don't

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Speaker 1: have to think too hard about it. Very nice. Well,

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, miss you Eatman. Thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: all these years. Doctor sorry doctor, Yeah, for listening for

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Speaker 1: all these years. Is because those might be our some

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Speaker 1: my mom. Like, it's just like they've been listening for

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Speaker 1: we have a bad show. No, absolutely, I love that

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Speaker 1: show today. Yeah absolutely, Yeah. I talk to my parents.

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Speaker 1: on me. All right, So let's jump in. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot we want to hit today. Cowboys are now

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Speaker 1: three practices in. They got ten more to go while

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Speaker 1: I like to do on training camp days, with one

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Speaker 1: It could also be an interview that you were part of.

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Speaker 1: But give me one observation. Let's start with you. Dave. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was Dalton Schultz day yesterday. My god, he was

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Speaker 1: and then he gets hurt, and I mean four and twelve,

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Speaker 1: but the two that they win when Romo comes back,

426
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 1: the team doesn't just can just drop off play better.

427
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 1: And that was a pretty good offensive line. Three starters

428
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Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. But I think if you go

429
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: back to the first five games of last year, they

430
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: didn't win them all, obviously, but they were putting up numbers.

431
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele starting all those games in Seattle, Atlanta, No

432
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: Flozell in those games, layout was out the whole time.

433
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: Dak got him in position. They didn't win all of them,

434
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,239
Speaker 1: they lost some, but it was it was right there

435
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Speaker 1: about five hundred. And that's Dak with those guys, I think,

436
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Dak is a huge difference. That's

437
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Speaker 1: what we say all the time. Right. It's like the

438
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys word only as good as eight and eight all

439
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 1: those years because Romo was dragging them along for the

440
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: ride basically, which is what Dak was gonna do. He

441
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: was gonna drag him to eight and eight last year. Probably, Yeah,

442
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: I just I your point's not wrong, But I just

443
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: think quarterbacks too important. And we are splitting hairs here

444
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: a bit. The hope is that you're gonna have all three. Yes,

445
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: But but I but you know, I do mad back together. Yeah,

446
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: I do. I do think that last year a lot

447
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: of what they experienced, in my opinion, was about the tackles,

448
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: and I think it all gets dumped onto a lot

449
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 1: of cases, gets dumped onto Dak. I think the tackles

450
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: had as much, if not more, to do with that.

451
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely lets one. One's the next question, who will have

452
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: a greater impact offensively? This season, Zeke Elliott or Ceedee

453
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: lamb Um Zeke to me, because he's he's still the starter,

454
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 1: he's the he's the main guy. Um. And you got

455
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: to it's a pick your poison type thing with with

456
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Speaker 1: you know, with CD's gonna have some big games. He's

457
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna get some games, and maybe they shut him down

458
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: and the ball goes over here. But I think, if

459
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: if everything's working the way it's supposed to work, Zeke's

460
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 1: the guy is supposed to get the ball. They want

461
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Speaker 1: to run out the clock with him. If you can

462
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Speaker 1: get to that point, I think it'll still be Zeke. Yeah,

463
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: I think yeah, And I love CD, and I think

464
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna take another step. He'll be better

465
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Speaker 1: than he was. But I'm not you know, I'm not

466
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Speaker 1: ready to say that he's the guy that the other

467
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Speaker 1: team is game planning around heading into that week yet

468
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Speaker 1: yet maybe how that is a week three, four, Yeah,

469
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe he will be that guy, but I'm not

470
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Speaker 1: ready to say he's that guy yet. And you still

471
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Speaker 1: have two really other you know, two great receivers. I

472
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Speaker 1: think I think Amari Cooper is maybe not criminally underrated,

473
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Speaker 1: but underrated by the league. In terms of how good

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Speaker 1: he really is, so he didn't underratate him. I saw

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Speaker 1: that he's yeah, no, and on the list. Actually it's

476
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: like okay, ea, like thank you because he you know,

477
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Speaker 1: we had that argument with Danny McCrae a month ago,

478
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: like he's I think he's one of the ten best

479
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Speaker 1: receivers in the league. So, um, if I'm choosing between

480
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Speaker 1: those guys, I guess I say, Zeke, would you resign him?

481
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: Though maybe already know? And I'm gonna tell you. I'm

482
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this. I don't have to resign him.

483
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: He's under contract. I'm gonna tell you this. At Yes,

484
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: go ahead, David. I like, if everybody tries to answer

485
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: that question now and you don't have to, don't happen.

486
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: You don't have to. You're right, you're right. Let's see

487
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: what happens. See what happens. Let's see if Ceedee Lamb

488
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: gets pulled off a punt return because he's too valuable

489
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: to put there, then that's when I understand that. Okay,

490
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: this is where the Cowboys kind of think about him.

491
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Speaker 1: But I do think it's something we're not we don't

492
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Speaker 1: think about it right now, but the Cowboys are definitely

493
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,959
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Everyone first, Michael Gallup is completely going

494
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: to be gone. I'm like, I don't know about that.

495
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: I agree with that. That's an interesting point because maybe

496
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: they look at and say, you give me CD, and

497
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: you give me Gallop and then I'm filling with other guys.

498
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the way they look at it long term,

499
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, and everything points toward optimism. With a Mari injury,

500
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: we think he'll be fine for the season, but keep

501
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: an eye on that. I mean, you know, it's a

502
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: long season. Your opinion changes drastically from July to February,

503
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: and so you know, if if Amari has a really

504
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Speaker 1: disappointing season, which I don't think will happen, but if

505
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: for some reason he does, maybe it's a conversation. But

506
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Speaker 1: I do agree with you that he isn't underrated. He's

507
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: Maris is an underrated play because you just I don't

508
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: know if it's demeaner or you just don't think he's

509
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: very fast or whatever. Doesn't make a lot of the people.

510
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't make a lot of the you know, we

511
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: talk about Dez doing Dez things, and we're seeing that

512
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: now from CD as well. He doesn't make those kind

513
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: of plays as often they don't look as spectacular as

514
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: sometimes even they are. Right who he reminds me of it.

515
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: I believe he was right under Amaria on that Madden list.

516
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Speaker 1: Is Keenan Allen? Yeah, you don't. You don't those guys

517
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: are you don't flashy, They just haven't. Keenan Allen is

518
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: better probably than Amari Cooper. He unfortun I mean, he

519
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: just he plays for like the least visible team in

520
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: the NFL, and that's part of it. Yeah. I will

521
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: say this though, the things I've seen from CD Lamb

522
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: suggests to me that if I'm trying to project out,

523
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: I think he and the reason why I asked this question,

524
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 1: I think he has the ability that by the end

525
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: of this year, other than Dak, he will be the

526
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: next talked about offensive player for the Cowboys. He will

527
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: be the guy that's making the plays that everybody's talking about.

528
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: He will be the guy that makes that game winning catch.

529
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: He'll be the guy that makes the catch that you

530
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: know is the game sealer. Like He's gonna be that guy,

531
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Speaker 1: I think because I think he and Dak are building

532
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: that kind of rapport and he has that that level

533
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: of ability. I was trying to do my David helmet

534
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: an impression a practice and take some really good saw

535
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: that and I got one of CD and I thought

536
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: it was bad. I thought it was bad video because

537
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: he kind of ran out of the shot. Then he

538
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: comes running right at me. But really what happened was

539
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: is he broke Anthony Brown's ankles on this play and

540
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: he went down like straight to the ground. So someone said,

541
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: and I didn't know this was a verb, but I

542
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: like it. He said, you're trying, You're out helmting Helman,

543
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm helming. I'm I'm It's taken me some time. I'm

544
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: not on my a game yet. I really I gotta

545
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: recommitt to find your right out in the rhythm. Yeah,

546
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm out of practice. We didn't get to do this

547
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah you need this. The Tier two designation

548
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: might help you. Alright. All right, let's go on to

549
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: the next question. What have you seen defensively that could

550
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: allow you to be optimistic that the defense will be better? Now,

551
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying that. I'm saying that, first of all,

552
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: knowing that Dave is the opposite of optimistic, like he's

553
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: not an optimistic But there's a reason for it. If

554
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: you want to be optimistic, if you want to give

555
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: fans out there who are optimistic reasons to be optimistic,

556
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: give me one thing you've seen from this defense that

557
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: would give you a reason to be optimistic. Randy Gregory,

558
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I was gonna say Michael Parsons about but no,

559
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: but Gregory's a better answer. Gregory's a better answer right now. Yeah,

560
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: he's he's um, he's looking like he looks like a stud.

561
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: It's a good number for him. He's a good player.

562
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: He like, holy, he's a good players. Yeah, which doing it?

563
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: I know, like we're doing it, We're doing He looks

564
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: so good though he does. But Tyrant Smith, I don't

565
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: think Tyrn Smith's lost it. Okay, Now he looks like

566
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: a robot with all this stuff that he's got working on,

567
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: you know, but he They have some good battles and

568
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Randy doesn't win them all, but he gets some. Yeah,

569
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: he gets a couple, he gets he gets a few.

570
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: And think about it. Any game, Um, if guy has

571
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: three sacks in a game, you're like dominated left, you

572
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: get a couple of wins, there's seventy snaps and then

573
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: he might have been pancaked for twenty of them. But

574
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: but he got three sacks. Yeah, So I think Randy's

575
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna have moments like that, Like what McCarthy said. We're

576
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: not gonna run a reverse around on him. He's too

577
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: he's too agile, he's too he's too discipline. Really if

578
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: you could throw that word in there for Randy. But

579
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: I mean when it comes to that, he's just got

580
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: that range, those long arms. I think he's having fun too.

581
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah, see, I mean why wouldn't he

582
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: being him? He's got it. He's got a defensive Coordineta

583
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: believes in him. Now, Yeah, like that's those were his

584
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: words where he's talking about how last year he felt

585
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: like he wasn't in those fair opportunities. So that could

586
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: certainly improve his move. He's got an organization that has

587
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: always believed in Yeah, you know, and I think he

588
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: knows that too and understands that. And and we'll see.

589
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: You know, we just said we're not going to see

590
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: Tank till we get back to Texas. But like he's

591
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: out here and working and looks good. Nobody's talking about

592
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: it because we haven't seen him on the field yet.

593
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: The Marcus Lawrence looks lean like even. I mean, he's

594
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: never been a big guy, but like he even looked

595
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: like I saw him on it. He posted something on

596
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 1: Instagram the other day. I was like, you look small

597
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: like he like he is cut down and you know

598
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: they do the you know, the hula hoop drills where

599
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: they like work on their bend and he still got it.

600
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: He I mean, he, Marcus, you've ever seen do it? No? No, no,

601
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: but that's not fair. He yeah, yet that's sixth all

602
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: time on the NFL Cyclist or wherever where is. Yeah? No,

603
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: but he doesn't he doesn't look like you know, you

604
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: you look at him. Some guys you're like, oh, he

605
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: looks like he's far away from being able to play football.

606
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: The Marcus doesn't look like he's far away and nothing

607
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: against his body now and all that stuff. We gotta

608
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: remember the guy and played football in a while. But

609
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: what is Micah Parson's gonna look like a year from

610
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: now when we come to training. Can jesus it's kind

611
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: of scary robot, kind of scary upside down? Yeah, but

612
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: talking about him, you said you were excited about him.

613
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, if that's the case, next year, he's

614
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: going to be intercepting that ball instead of just running

615
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: down the By the way, he's already intercepting balls like

616
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: this guy, he's everywhere. He's rushing pass protection. Where I

617
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: play him, his position is middle of the field, just

618
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, linebacker, safety, whatever the hell you want. He's

619
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna get to that point. And this is why you

620
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: draft him this side. But where they get on the

621
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: field of the quarterbacks, like where's eleven? Okay, right, there's

622
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: right here? Kind of thinking could be? I mean, and

623
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: how dynamic is that? Like he does everything? He does everything.

624
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: They had him, They had him blitz in the A

625
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: gap yesterday. He was dropping in zone, he was following

626
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: guys down the field. He should he should have had

627
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: a pick. He dropped in his own and read Garrett

628
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: Gilbert's eyes, you, I mean, broke on the ball, just

629
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: couldn't bring it in. He broke up another one. So

630
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: he had two breakups yesterday. He just and and and

631
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, they got him running from seven on seven

632
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: to pass rush drills, like hey, get over there and

633
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: go against tiring a couple of times, and then get

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Speaker 1: back and go against Dak and the receivers. It's just fun.

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Speaker 1: He's he's fun. If Dad goes down, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: that maybe we ought not consider letting him about. There's

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Speaker 1: your backup quarterbacks? Quarterbacks? Yeah, I'm not really so. I'm

638
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Speaker 1: not really so enamored with the quarterbacks they got right

639
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Speaker 1: now behind Dak. But let's let's move on to the

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Speaker 1: next question. It is a one that kind of hits

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Speaker 1: on the what you guys just said. But which defender

642
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Speaker 1: do you think will have a larger impact if you

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Speaker 1: have to choose one, Nick, you have to choose one

644
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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, Michael Parsons or Trayvon Diggs. I'm gonna have

645
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Speaker 1: the best impact, the biggest impact on this defense. Good question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I go Randy just because I know what

647
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Speaker 1: his role is and how much he's gonna play like

648
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be your right end and unless something crazy happens,

649
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: like he's gonna play sixty percent or more of the

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Speaker 1: snaps and I'm Dig's will too. But I pass rushes

651
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Speaker 1: and pass rush is more important. Do you do you

652
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Speaker 1: want to alter? I know earlier this this offseason, you

653
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Speaker 1: and I had that little gentleman's wager on on whether

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Speaker 1: we thought Parsons would be a starter to begin the

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Speaker 1: season actually up a little bit. I told somebody yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I might be in trouble on that,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm not ready to be because remember

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Speaker 1: all I said was first snap, Yeah, I get that.

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Speaker 1: I'm still I'm I feel okay thinking that they'll be like,

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Speaker 1: all right, rook you, you know, get out there for

661
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Speaker 1: the next one. But let Jalen have this. Let Jayalen

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Speaker 1: get the start stet. I know one thing. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: this to Nick yesterday in the press conference. And this

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Speaker 1: may mean absolutely nothing, but Mike McCarthy was asked about

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, and in his response he spent the majority

666
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Speaker 1: of the time talking about Michael Parsons. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's an accident any The point he was making was

668
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of competition at linebacker. You I might,

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Speaker 1: I might wind up owing you dinner, but I'm a man,

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Speaker 1: I can I'll stick with it, all right. Do I

671
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Speaker 1: get to pick the place? By the way, No, okay,

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Speaker 1: well you're gonna pick the place. Don't kill me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's not go to let's not go to

674
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Speaker 1: Nick and SAMs. We'll figure it out. Yeah, all right, Nick,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think all three of them are dogs,

676
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Speaker 1: and I think that that that mentality on defense can

677
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Speaker 1: be better just just by the three of them. And

678
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: they're on all levels too. I think trey Von Diggs

679
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Speaker 1: is really really going to have a big impact. Um,

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Speaker 1: I agree with it on that. I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 1: the pass rusher because the pass rusher can make the

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Speaker 1: Diggs a better play ass rusher well of the three. Yeah,

683
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Speaker 1: and I get that you're saying that that parsonsal blitz.

684
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't do all that stuff too, and that'll help.

685
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: But Gregory, you know, Bill Bill Kawer, Okay, rush the quarterback.

686
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Speaker 1: Just rush to the quarterback, and I he'll He'll make

687
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Speaker 1: Parsons a better player. He'll make Diggs a better player.

688
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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, I love what I'm seeing out

689
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Speaker 1: of Diggs. I really do. He doesn't win them all either.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, Cornerston don't win him. They don't. His mentality

691
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: is fun and you talk to him. I mean, you know,

692
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Speaker 1: you guys got a chance to interview him and stuff

693
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Speaker 1: like that, and he's just he's just refreshing, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to you know, we

695
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Speaker 1: asked that question. I guess it was on the show

696
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Speaker 1: with Shannon and Nate yesterday about cornerbacks that are dogs.

697
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's hard to have that mentality, really,

698
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Speaker 1: but but he he can be that. He's got yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think the thing that gives me pause about

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Speaker 1: Diggs is I'm not a big believer in the rest

701
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Speaker 1: of the secondary. And you know, and that's a it's

702
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: a fascinating debate, and there's plenty of evidence that suggests

703
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: having a dominant secondary is better than having a dominant

704
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Speaker 1: pass rush. But this isn't a dominant secondary like Diggs.

705
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Speaker 1: Diggs looks really promising. I don't feel amazing about anybody

706
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Speaker 1: else back there. Not to get too far into that,

707
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Speaker 1: but give me an example of a team where you

708
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Speaker 1: have a dominant secondary but the pass rush isn't as dominant.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because to me they seem to go hand

710
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Speaker 1: in Typically, when you have a really good secondary, you

711
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Speaker 1: have some beast up front. I can hear what you're

712
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Speaker 1: about to say, So don't know, I'm not going there.

713
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, give me somebody else. No, just don't.

714
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Speaker 1: I mean Seattle's pass Seattle's pass rush was good, it

715
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Speaker 1: wasn't on the caliber of what those players were in

716
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Speaker 1: the back seven, like three Hall of famers in the secondary,

717
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Speaker 1: and like the I mean, the pass rush was good,

718
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Speaker 1: but who was the best one? Michael Bennett probably, which

719
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean a good player, not like you're not going

720
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Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Neither's Cliff Avril some years

721
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Speaker 1: where he played really really well, but not not just

722
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Speaker 1: this dumb and even you know, and they're not the

723
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Speaker 1: best in the league right now, but um, you know,

724
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Speaker 1: my Miami's defense is good because their secondary is good

725
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: right now. Buffalo is similar. You know, they they got

726
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: a couple of solid safeties. Turdavious White's good. You know,

727
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Speaker 1: ninety five Cowboys all about the secondary, well, the uncovered

728
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Speaker 1: half the field, and Darren Woodson was back there as well.

729
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Speaker 1: Now we also are talking about the greatest cornerback in

730
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Speaker 1: NFL history. But that's my point is if you have

731
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Speaker 1: amazing secondary, you can have a great defense without a

732
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Speaker 1: pass rush. But that's not what this team has. Could

733
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Speaker 1: that also go as far as to say, if you

734
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Speaker 1: have an amazing one cornerback, that could make the difference

735
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Speaker 1: for the rest of the secondary, make the secondary, rest

736
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Speaker 1: of the secondary a great secondary. Sure, I'm the Jets

737
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Speaker 1: did that with Rivas for a few years. Yeah, but absolutely, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but Diggs isn't there, and that right, Yeah, so bad

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Speaker 1: part is that Diggs is gonna have to go up

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Speaker 1: against the best receiver night in and night out, and

741
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Speaker 1: and he's not. And that's that's the point I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to make, is I feel great about where Trayvon Diggs

743
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Speaker 1: is going. I'm not sure he's got enough help back

744
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: there right now that you know that it's gonna pay

745
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: off for him, at least right away. I'm not sure

746
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Speaker 1: that of your three guys that you mentioned, I'm not sure.

747
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Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill might not be the better player on this

748
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Speaker 1: on this whole. I mean he might be. They're saying

749
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Speaker 1: he might be the best player on the entire defense.

750
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Speaker 1: He might be the glue. Yeah, yeah, I just want

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753
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755
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Speaker 1: got a new segment. It's called I Get Around. Here's

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. I'm gonna throw out a name

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Speaker 1: and the as you guys know him for the listeners

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Speaker 1: out there. I tell you guys all the time, your

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Speaker 1: job is to know this team. So we're gonna test

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Speaker 1: how well you know this team. I'm just gonna throw

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Speaker 1: out random names players on this team. Hunt there we

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Speaker 1: did yesterday? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Mendick had a run through yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna throw out a random name and

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Speaker 1: then I want you guys to riff on him. For

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Speaker 1: each one of you have a couple minutes to riff

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Speaker 1: on him and talk about what you've seen, what you've heard,

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Speaker 1: maybe a little story that you have about the guy,

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Speaker 1: just anything you know about this player. So we give

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Speaker 1: fans an opportunity to know more man about this team.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna find out you get around, all right.

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Speaker 1: Let's start first with Demante Casey. He's a sixty year player,

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent that the Cowboys picked up from Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't undrafted, wasn't he was a six I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: not undrafted, I'm sorry, unrestricted, already already unrestricted free agent

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Speaker 1: out of Atlanta. Nick go oh Man, Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's not. He's not the biggest guy I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: in the world, you know, but I mean he's I

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Speaker 1: think by default he's one of the better safeties on

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Speaker 1: this team right now. And so he's out there. He is.

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Speaker 1: He's not made a lot of memorable plays to me.

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Speaker 1: But I think was he held out in last in

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Speaker 1: practice yesterday or the day before. I feel like he

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Speaker 1: wasn't in a lot of Honestly, I had held out.

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Speaker 1: We were having we had an argument about that yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I think I think they which and people freak out.

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Speaker 1: They didn't demote him. But he ran with the twos yesterday.

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Speaker 1: From what I see him win the twos a lot,

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Speaker 1: and and so that's why I was like, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know if he was out there a lot in teams,

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Speaker 1: Maybe that I mean, and he's coming off in Achilles.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're limiting him because he was getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of work the first two days, a little haha and him,

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Speaker 1: which I'm like, I mean, doesn't say I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, come on, as soon as you say that,

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Speaker 1: you know what everybody's thinking. Well, I'm just saying, just

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Speaker 1: from the storyline, Okay, he's coming in from from you know,

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Speaker 1: another coach had him before. Okay, McCart if he had

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Speaker 1: haha before made a Pro Bowl, I don't think because

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Speaker 1: he has. But he led the league and interceptions in

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Speaker 1: one year, and so you know, and then you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well he's in. He's for sure. And then he's like,

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Speaker 1: well where is he now? He's with the twos and

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Speaker 1: all that. I'm just saying, I don't think it's so

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Speaker 1: good that they had to sign Mallie Cook. It's too

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Speaker 1: early to say it's the same thing, because if that

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Speaker 1: was true, then why was he the starter all through OTAs, like,

894
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Speaker 1: you know, ten practices. He was out there doing his

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Speaker 1: thing the whole time. I mean, hadn't signed Hooker yet,

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Speaker 1: but he said he's gonna be a two name guy.

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Speaker 1: It's two it's too. He's kind of you got it

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Speaker 1: the first name in there. You know, we don't. We

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Speaker 1: don't call him Pollard, him Tony, people do. I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. I think it's Tony Pollard. I call him

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Speaker 1: TP different book for different reasons. You can't just say

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to use Malik with it. I just

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Speaker 1: think you need to always say MALIEK. Cooker. Well, and

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Speaker 1: you're I get around segment. I mean think about that.

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Speaker 1: That could get a little bit right, all right, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I just hope I hope that's not true, because he's

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Speaker 1: he's got one of my favorite new nicknames on the team.

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Speaker 1: He's apparently he's gone by a crazy casey since he

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Speaker 1: was a kid, which an awesome name for a safety. Um,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see. I'll tell you I hate and I'm

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Speaker 1: not a big number dork, but I hate his number.

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Speaker 1: I don't thirty five like especially. Thirty five is fine

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Speaker 1: if you're like a thumper, but if you're a free safety, doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't look right. I don't like it. It

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Speaker 1: seemed like a fast name. If he makes if he

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Speaker 1: makes the team, maybe he changes out of it. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's move on. Second name I'm gonna give you guys,

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams. He used the fourth year players second round

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Speaker 1: draft pick in two thy eighteen out of the University

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Speaker 1: of Texas Hookham Horns, Dave go. Uh, they got him

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Speaker 1: doing that. We figured out who their backup center is.

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Speaker 1: It's Connor. They got him working at center. He did

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Speaker 1: it yesterday, he was running with the twos. I think

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Speaker 1: he got some work with Dak as well. M not

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Speaker 1: something he did in college, although he did. He did

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Speaker 1: work at it a little bit during his draft process,

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Speaker 1: So that's interesting. And Mike McCarthy talked yesterday that you know,

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Speaker 1: he likes to train his guards as centers, and that's

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Speaker 1: a way that you can kind of finagle the roster

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Speaker 1: math so you don't have to have two centers. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he looks he looks good. And he had a funny

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Speaker 1: comment yesterday that he's like, I'm glad that I feel

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Speaker 1: young again because Tying and Lyle and Zach are all

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Speaker 1: back in the lineup, and so like he's back to

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Speaker 1: being the young member of the line instead of last year.

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Speaker 1: He's the only veteran on the line. So uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fun. That's fun that he's doing a little bit

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Speaker 1: of center. Nick. Always a little tricky when that happens.

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Speaker 1: When you're taking a guy to do more things. It's like,

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Speaker 1: are you taking him away from his craft to be

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Speaker 1: a better guard? You know? And and it's always kind

942
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Speaker 1: of tricky on the offensive line too, because what you're

943
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Speaker 1: doing with competition, you, continuity is such an important thing. Oh, he'siveness,

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Speaker 1: so you gotta get him all together. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think it will affect him that much. I'm okay. If

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Speaker 1: he's the backup center there, I do question why does

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Speaker 1: it take so long? I would like to see him

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Speaker 1: do this. Last year practiced a little bit more. We

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Speaker 1: hadn't seen that before. But yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 1: he's doing He's doing well. And he talked about having

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Speaker 1: Tyring on his left. I mean, he's a much better

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Speaker 1: it's a much better player when he when Tyrant's out there,

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Speaker 1: no offense than Brandon Knight or Steel or whoever. But

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Speaker 1: Tyrant takes up, you know, cleans up from some trash

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. All right, So let's go to

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Speaker 1: Malik Charner. He is a fourth year wide receiver acquired

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Speaker 1: through waivers from Green Bay in twenty twenty. Nick, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised they resigned him, honestly. I mean, Riding was

959
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Speaker 1: on the wall last year. He kind of got phased

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Speaker 1: out of this, you know, of the team. He was

961
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Speaker 1: just a special teams guy, not really much a receiver,

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Speaker 1: and then he wasn't even active. So for him to

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Speaker 1: be resigned as an unrestricted free agent, it was surprising

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Speaker 1: to me. Not only is he coming out here and

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Speaker 1: probably one of the core guys for John Fossil's group,

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Speaker 1: but he's been really good at receiver. He's I mean,

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Speaker 1: I asked him yesterday. I talked to him a little

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Speaker 1: bit and I said, you know, you're not just those

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Speaker 1: pressure teams guy. He's like, I want to be a

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Speaker 1: team guy. I want team, the whole team. I want

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Speaker 1: them to say put him on teams, put him at receiver, anywhere,

972
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Speaker 1: you know, and those guys are real valuable. So we

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Speaker 1: didn't mention him yesterday earlier today and we talked about that.

974
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Speaker 1: But he's right in the mixed. He's made some place. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Probably the best throw of Dack's camp so far was

976
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Speaker 1: to him just it was like a flag route down

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Speaker 1: you know, far coming to the sideline, made a great

978
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Speaker 1: sliding catch and I'm Yeah, there's always a guy that

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Speaker 1: flies under the radar that the coaching staff values a

980
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Speaker 1: little bit more than people realize. And maybe he's one

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Speaker 1: of them, because talking about John Fossil. Fossil was working

982
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Speaker 1: with him on punt stuff yesterday for a while after practice,

983
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Speaker 1: and you know, he's the type of guy that's gonna

984
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Speaker 1: need to play a lot of snaps in the preseason

985
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Speaker 1: if he does a good job with it. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph he is a rookie cornerback. He was the

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Speaker 1: second round pick of the Cowboys this year out of Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Dave go I don't I don't have a ton to

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Speaker 1: say yet other than that, you know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: there was a narrative that people were like, oh no,

991
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Speaker 1: like he's already fallen behind. You know, he he had

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Speaker 1: COVID in the spring and he didn't get to practice

993
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Speaker 1: and he's just he's the rookie years already awash, and

994
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Speaker 1: that that's not true. I mean, he looked, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's fighting out there. He looks like he belongs. He

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Speaker 1: had a pass break up on a long ball a

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Speaker 1: couple of days ago against Dak and I don't remember

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Speaker 1: who the receiver was think, so he's he's battling. He

999
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Speaker 1: doesn't look like a liability. But I you know, I

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Speaker 1: can't say that I've he's jumped out to me in

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Speaker 1: this insane way, but he's He's part of the mix

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Speaker 1: for sure. I was trying to walk behind the defense

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Speaker 1: of the during a practice, trying to get out of

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Speaker 1: the way. But as I was doing doing that, there

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Speaker 1: was a play on the sideline. I don't even think

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Speaker 1: the ball went that way. I just think it was

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Speaker 1: a reaction play that he kind of saw the running

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Speaker 1: back or whatever. And Al Harris, the cornerbacks coach or

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Speaker 1: the backs coach, got so excited about that. He was like,

1010
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Speaker 1: you saw it. You saw it, Kelvin, you saw it.

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Speaker 1: You know, like he was like so excited, jumped up,

1012
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Speaker 1: had him on the helmet. He was just like, I

1013
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Speaker 1: don't even know what it wasn't even again, the ball

1014
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Speaker 1: wasn't his way. Was just more about the zone or

1015
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Speaker 1: the coverage and how you know he let the safety

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Speaker 1: take it when and got the running back. But I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, like Al Harris was excited, and it probably

1018
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Speaker 1: means that there was a few plays that he hadn't

1019
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: been seeing it, but so you know, it's early, it's

1020
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna he's got a learning curve there, you know.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see Jeremy Sprinkle, fifth year tight end.

1022
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Speaker 1: He was an unrestricted free agent that the Cowboys picked

1023
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Speaker 1: up from the Washington football team. Nick go, you know,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't done a whole lot. He really hasn't. And

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Speaker 1: Arkansas guy, Yeah, he's the Arkansas guy. And he was

1026
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Speaker 1: a good pass catcher at Arkansas. You know, he played

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Speaker 1: two tight ends with Hunter Henry. I always forget, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what Henry it is, always forget that was

1029
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Speaker 1: your guy. There's seventeen Henrys at Arkansas. He was like

1030
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Speaker 1: all other American Hudson Henry. And then there's a there's

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Speaker 1: another tight end at Arkansas down and his dad was

1032
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Speaker 1: Mark Henry. I don't know Henry. Mark Henry has in

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Speaker 1: the wrestler now wrestlers, different guys, sexual chocolate. I know

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Speaker 1: Mark Henry, but go ahead, a little different, okay, a

1035
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Speaker 1: little bittle bit cool though I haven't seen a lot.

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Speaker 1: I haven't. I just haven't. I thought, again, what he's

1037
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Speaker 1: here to do is to be an on the line

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Speaker 1: blocker on tight end, and I don't think at this

1039
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Speaker 1: point we saw a lot of the Blake Bell either.

1040
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the third tight end that

1041
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Speaker 1: can do some some some blocking, some things like that.

1042
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Speaker 1: But um, I haven't seen any of the other tight

1043
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Speaker 1: ends to do much either the other the backups, see,

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Speaker 1: I don't quite agree with that. That's Sprinkles probably on

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Speaker 1: this list the name where I'm like, I don't got

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Speaker 1: a lot for you. Um, he's all around, Um, he's

1047
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Speaker 1: been out there, but no, no, But I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say I've even seen they've featured Sean McCune. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking of the other guys. You're right, Yes, they've featured

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Speaker 1: they've featured McCune a good little bit on some of

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Speaker 1: the rollouts and the boot stuff. But I can't stress.

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Speaker 1: I can't stress enough. I feel like I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm like everybody keeps forgetting that they haven't put pads

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Speaker 1: on yet, like we've you know, these are Ota practices. Basically,

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Sprinkle's game probably doesn't translate super well to this

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Speaker 1: style of practice. So when they start doing the run

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Speaker 1: fits and you know, you start watching people setting the

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Speaker 1: edge and thudding up, I bet he'll show up. A

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Speaker 1: little bit more than he has these first few plays. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that may be more the role that they're going

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Speaker 1: to ask of him, and so he doesn't show up

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Speaker 1: right now. Whereas you know, right now, it's really the

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Speaker 1: skill players that were noticing more because they're the ones

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Speaker 1: that can actually get out there, thing on around. You

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Speaker 1: can see what they do. We started this show off

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Speaker 1: talking about how you know, great the receivers look, which

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Speaker 1: is I mean, that's the right. It's a rite of

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Speaker 1: passage every year because it's the easiest thing to notice

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Speaker 1: in these practices. All right, that's a rat man. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We'll be back on Wednesday and

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Speaker 1: we'll give you guys some more updates. Cowboys will practice

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and then hopefully a little later this week. I

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Speaker 1: did get a little note from our buddy Brian. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna try to jump Brian Broad's gonna try to jump

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Speaker 1: on with us on the show later this week, either

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Speaker 1: win or Friday. See if we can jump in here

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Speaker 1: with us and give us some of his thoughts about

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Speaker 1: training camp. We'll do all that later this week for

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, Dave helm and I am Derek Eakleton. This

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Speaker 1: has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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