WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Super Bold Predictions 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:10.920 And the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.720 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World hours at the 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:27.120 Star In and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:33.240 Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a Friday edition of 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.400 Talking Cowboys, Week one, Episode four, as we get you 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.879 ready for the Rams and Cowboys Sunday Night Football just 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:47.040 a couple days away as NFL football season is officially 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:51.080 underway last night, as the Chiefs took down the Houston 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.520 Texans thirty four to twenty on Thursday Night Football. But 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.840 we've got Cowboys football to talk about, and we're going 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.320 to dive into that over the next forty five minutes. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.160 I'm Kyle Yo alongside the great Cowboys insider, Rob Phillips 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.320 and the great heck Ma Harrison. As always, no Isaiah 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.040 stand back today, which is unfortunate because we're only three 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.559 fourths of what we usually are as a show without 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.240 Isaiah in the mix. But hey, we're gonna hold down 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.720 the fort and we'll see Isaiah again here next week 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.199 and even this weekend if you're gonna watch pregame live 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.520 as well. But tons of tons of storylines to get 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.400 to leading into the weekend. But guys, I want to 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.240 kind of start on a more serious note, and for 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.120 a couple of reasons. First off, really one of the 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.360 first things I do whenever I intro a show normally 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.240 is I usually like to say the date, and today 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.640 is Friday, September eleventh, and that's a date that's gonna 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:46.520 ring throughout the memories of Americans for the rest of 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.480 time because of what happened back in two thousand and 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.640 one on this date. Of course, the terrorist attacks in 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.480 the start of the War on Terrorism in New York 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.360 as the Twin Towers also on the Pentagon, and the 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.600 terrorist attacks that were brought out and things that images 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.120 that will never be forgotten and something that all of us, 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.320 I know, remember where we were when that moment was happening, 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.160 no matter where we were in our walk of life 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.560 and where we were specifically physically. But guys, I wanted 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.400 to kind of give you, guys a moment in remembrance 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.640 of those victims and really what that stood for as 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:25.720 a country. And Rob will start with you. I can't 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.919 believe it's been almost twenty years, Kyle. I mean it 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.400 just hit me today that it's been nineteen years. I 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.080 was in college at the time. I like you said, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.840 there are certain things that you remember most, and there's 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.840 a lot of things that still I can remember. But 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.359 the things that stick out today still are the coverage 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.720 that day class is getting canceled on my campus, Peter 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.639 Jennings on ABC trying to guide us all through it, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.400 President Bush's speech at Ground Zero, all of the first 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:57.919 responders and their fearlessness and trying to help people. And 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.600 I also remember George Tea a week later running out 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.120 through the tunnel onto the football field with the American flag. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.960 That that, to me is still just in my memory. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.600 And um, I guess for me, it's just a reminder 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.919 of so many people need football, you know, to kind 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.120 of bring it back to our show, and having the 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:21.799 season opener last night in the middle of another just 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:26.000 just horrific situation in our country. Uh, it's nice to 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.560 have football back because I think sometimes we need a 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.120 diversion from some of the problems that we're having in 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:37.320 our own lives. Heck, yeah, Kyle, I was. I was 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:42.440 living in Puerto Rico at the time in college, and man, 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.440 it was it was erie. It was erie being being 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.560 a student abroad and not being able to get back 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:54.440 home to my family, and just the way that life 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:58.200 changed in a moment's notice. One of the things that 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:02.840 I drew from September eleventh is you know, the first responders, 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:08.200 and they're just heroic efforts to try and save people. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.440 The one the first responders that ran up those those 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.120 stairs to try and save people why the building was 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.480 coming down. That's something that has always stayed with me. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.560 Just being glued to the television, like and in the 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.919 eerie reminder of just being glued to the television is 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.479 the same today with the with the pandemic. But the 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:33.279 one thing that I will always take from September eleventh 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.320 is how unite it we all stood after September eleventh, 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.200 How you know united we stand. We're all Americans and 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:47.120 everyone standing together against you know, terrorism, And you know, 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.360 September eleventh is always going to be My wife and 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.039 I we were talking about it just nineteen years It 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:57.039 just seems like that time flew. But even in that 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:00.240 nineteen years, man, you remember exactly where you were when 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.400 that first plane hit the build, and then in moments thereafter, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.359 I think we just all were in shock. And yeah, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:11.160 that's Yeah, that's that's really my September eleventh memory, absolutely, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:15.080 and I appreciate you guys sharing that, especially, like Rob 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.599 said on a football show, this isn't the normal thing 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.000 that you talk about, but you have to talk about 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.039 it because it does represent what we are as Americans 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.400 in that unity and everything that that's involved in the Red, white, 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.280 and blue, and man, it's a it's a terrible memory, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.360 but it's a memory nonetheless. And we wanted to take 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:33.800 a couple of moments here at the start of the 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.200 show to remember those victims and remember those first responders 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.520 who had their lives taken from them, almost three thousand 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.719 that day throughout New York City, Washington, d C. And 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.520 in Pennsylvania as well. So we want to remember them. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.800 And while we're still kind of on a serious note, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.200 taking a more cowboys look at a serious note. In 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.480 a storyline that came out yesterday, I don't even want 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.719 to say, really the name of the reporter, because I 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.839 know that's kind of where he wants it to be. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.440 He wants his name out there. But there were reports 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.000 in it. There was a statement made yesterday about Dak 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:10.440 Prescott and the fact that he wasn't necessarily doing a 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.000 good job of hiding his emotions, and Dak Prescott in 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.960 an interview last week or that or that was actually 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:21.040 surfaced this week, rather went through his depression, in his 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.960 struggle with mental health and really some of the things 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:25.840 that he dealt with as an individual and as a 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:30.440 human whenever his brother was passed passed away back in April. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.400 So guys kind of wanted to take a quick second 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.159 to to back Dak Prescott as well. I mean, mental 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.080 health is no joke. I mean this is something that's 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:43.560 it's very serious for thousands, millions of people from a 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.559 day to day basis. And I know this is something 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.200 that at least both of you guys, I know, hold dear, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.000 both of you mentioned yesterday that this is something we 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.359 want and need to talk about because of course it 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.120 being our quarterback in Dak Prescott. But at the same time, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.279 this is a serious issue and people need to be 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:06.000 aware of how serious it is. Well, you know, Kyle, 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:07.680 I think I want to stay with a trend of 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:12.640 not mentioning you know, the person that that the reason 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:17.200 why we're talking about this, And look, this is a 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.840 tough subject, man, and I just want to be clear 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.760 on the fact that I know it is. One of 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.800 the things that I want to point to is the 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:29.120 fact that Dak Prescott's interview was amazing. Yeah, and it 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:33.320 was amazing because he was able to articulate what he's 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.920 been going through through this pandemic and what it was 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:40.920 like growing up Dak Prescott. The headline stiller is what 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.600 was mentioned by said reporter that makes this is the 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.640 reason why we're talking about it. But really, what Dak 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.560 was talking about was phenomenal. His what he's doing as 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:56.280 far as trying to help put the police officers and 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.680 his charitable donations. His father talked about that. But then 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.080 what it's like growing up a multiracial man in America. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.760 That's that to me was the most striking thing about that, 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.600 because what he was talking about is two Americas, the 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.200 Americas that we're seeing white and black right, and how 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.360 being a multiracial man and having to deal with not 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:22.040 being accepted on both sides and still having to deal 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:26.080 with his raw emotions. Man, we've all been dealing with 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.480 this pandemic and it's you know, Hey, I'm a substitute teacher. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.839 I'm teaching my nine year old, my thirteen year old, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:38.160 and it has had his mental toll on everyone dealing 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.400 with this, and I feel as though after listening to 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.840 Dak and him being forthcoming and being honest about his 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:50.240 emotions and what he's dealing with, that's something to not 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.920 be targeted and said that, Hey, this guy should be 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.640 looked at like he's weak because he's talking in these terms, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.400 but more or less, look at the strength that he's 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:04.199 exuded by saying that. Look ideal with something that everybody 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.720 deals with, and it doesn't matter if you're the CEO 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:11.200 of Amazon or you're the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.840 He was making sure that everyone knows that he is 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.439 human and he is dealing with all of this the 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.840 best that he can. And look, I really, if anything, 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.439 after listening to that interview, man, if I wasn't a 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:31.400 Dak Prescott fan before, I'm a bigger Dak Prescott fan today, 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.959 I can't say it any better than that. I mean, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.080 you know, I'm with you guys like I don't want 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.960 to talk about the talk show host who said that 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.880 and had that take, because I know his bit. I've 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.000 seen his bit for enough years now. He plays opposite man. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.760 He wants to have a take that's different than everybody else. Well, 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.480 this one happened to be way out of line and 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:01.760 just ridiculous. And everything Heckmas said is exactly right. You know, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.960 I think as men, I think a lot of times 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.360 we're brought up to be stoic and tough and don't 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.520 show our our emotions, and the older you get, you 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.200 realize that's just not that's not the case. It's okay 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.880 to be vulnerable, as Dak said yesterday, And it doesn't 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.959 matter how much money you make. You know, money is 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.679 not everything people people, We never know what people are 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.400 dealing with in their hearts day to day, and I 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.800 think that's why it's really important. And Dak using his 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:32.760 platform is so important, Like you said, heck multiple different matters, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:38.640 social justice, now, mental wellness. Like for that to be 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.319 said on air yesterday was so irresponsible given what people 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.280 are dealing with in this country right now on a 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.760 lot of different levels. We've talked about the pandemic we've got. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.080 There are people dying, there are people sick, they're people 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.160 isolated from their families, have seen family members die and 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.520 not being able to be with them because of the virus, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.280 and and obviously there's there are social injustice problems in 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.320 this country. There's a lot of things affecting people in 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.160 this country, and it's important to have that message out 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.200 there that it's okay to be hurting right now, you know. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.920 And I know my family has had a lot of 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.120 problems this year personally, and other people have too, And 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.240 to have Dak say that that really struck me. You 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.439 know that he can that his message carries a lot 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.480 of weight, and for him to say that, I think 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.160 can really help people. I applauded for it. I think 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.040 it was something that needed to be said, especially with 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.200 somebody who does have the platform that he does. And 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.000 both of you guys very well said on each of 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:36.880 your parts, and I think he said it well himself, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.719 saying and I'm going to quote from his interview with 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.920 Graham ben sing or excuse me, but he said it 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.800 showed me how vulnerable we have to be as humans, 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.280 how open we have to be because of our adversity, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.200 our struggles, what we go through. It's always going to 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.120 be too much for ourselves and maybe too much for 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.120 even one or two people, but it's never too much 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.520 for a community, or never too much for the people 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.000 in the family that you love, so we have to 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.480 share those things. And I think that's very well said. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.680 It's it's absolutely a problem. And we're gonna take a 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.440 break here in just a couple of moments and then 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.960 we'll talk football, I promise. But as we go into 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.480 this break, I wanted to mention that yesterday was national 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.920 world it was World Suicide Prevention Day, and I wanted 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.120 to leave this number out there just for those who 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.200 may need some help. If you're happening to listen to 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.480 this podcast and you have been struggling with a depression 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.400 or with a loss and you need somebody to talk to, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.760 reach out to those around you, absolutely, because it is 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.640 a community that is needed in order to face these 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.080 issues together, whether it's a mental health issue or even 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.760 what we've been dealing with as a society with the 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.880 COVID nine team pandemic and every issue that's going on 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.600 in our world right now. But I mean, reach out 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.199 to us. If you don't have anybody to reach out to, 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.120 My dms are open, reach out to me. I have 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.880 no issue talking to anybody about these types of issues, 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.200 and it's something that is needed to be done. So 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.679 I wanted to throw that out there as well. But 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.400 I want to throw this number out there. It's the 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.520 National Suicide Prevention Hotline one eight hundred two seven three 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.000 eight two five five. That's how we'll head into break. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.640 We'll be back with football talk here on Talking Cowboys 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.319 since eighteen sixty five. Stetson Hats are American maid with 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.680 pride right here in Texas, and Stetson is proud to 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.080 be on the field with America's team. Want to show 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.840 your Texas and Team pride two You can by purchasing 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.240 your own Stetson. You can look just like how the 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.480 flag guys do on field at every home game. 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Appreciate you 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.960 sticking through what was a very heavy first segment, but 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.600 it was a couple of topics that we absolutely wanted 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.480 to hit on and share our opinions on because we 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.680 do back both of those different causes, both remembrance of 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.920 nine to eleven and never forgetting that, and then also 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.440 backing Dak Prescott with the comments that were made yesterday. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.520 But we've got some breaking news to go into here 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.120 on talking Cowboys as well. Just a couple of moments 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.680 before we went on air, there was breaking news from 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.560 Tom Pallisero of NFL Network saying that the Cowboys have 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:02.800 signed a one year voidable extension, meaning fifteen million dollars 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.400 of the base salary of one DeMarcus Lawrence has been 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:10.920 converted into a signing bonus, which frees up twelve million 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:15.040 dollars of cap space this year by making such moves. 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.680 So we've got some movement whenever it comes to the 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.880 Cowboys and it comes to this roster. We thought, of course, 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.360 last week we saw Zach Martin have a deal restructured, 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.400 we saw some other cap space mingling in there. But Rob, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.160 what does this mean, whenever it comes to DeMarcus Lawrence 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.520 getting an extension that's voidable and assigning bonus and freeing 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:38.800 up all this money, it's really the same thing. I 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.160 think that we saw the same purpose that we saw 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.360 with tyre In and with Zach recently. Just creating some 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.560 more space, yes for this year, but you know, an 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.480 any unused money can carry over to twenty twenty one. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.520 I think that's really what they're eyeing. And they've done 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.040 this in the past, you know, they with franchise Cornerstone players. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.400 I think they've done it with Tony Romo's contract in 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:01.880 the past, some other top guys. You know, you can 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.240 you can convert some of that base salary to signing 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.240 bonus money and then basically carry it over and free 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.560 up some space. So that's what they're doing, and we 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.520 all know the cap is very uncertain next year. We 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.000 also know there's a possibility that Dak Prescott will have 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.440 to get franchised again, at least maybe in the interim 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.040 to create space for what would be a thirty eight 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:25.119 million dollar cap figure. So that's that's I think primarily 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.800 what they're looking at here. Heckma, do you agree, because 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:30.840 I know there are a lot of fans out there 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.640 that might be saying there's there's a free agent that's 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.480 on the market. At the moment, I would tend to 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.720 side with Rob whenever it comes to this is a 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.360 future move to keep your quarterback. But I know how 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.480 you and Isaiah had been talking, and I wish Isaiah'd 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.720 be on because he would say, Earl Thomas, he would 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.320 say it immediately, but heck, what do you think about 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.359 this this move? Well, I you know, I'm siding with 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.480 Rob on this because I feel as though it's something 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.320 that's going to free up that cap space to get 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.480 Dak signed. At least that's what I'm hoping, and I'm 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.400 hoping that Dak didn't. We don't have to go through 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.360 this for another offseason with Dak in the franchise tech. 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.000 I mean, got that made for a lot of interesting banswer, 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.800 but let's get it done. I think that with COVID nineteen, 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.840 the uniqueness of COVID nineteen, and just with so many 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.240 things being up in the air on what the cap 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:19.879 is going to be next year, I just feel like 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.520 from an accounting standpoint, the Cowboys are just being very 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.520 smart smart to make sure that they're not over their 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.959 cap space next year. Yeah. Hey, if Isaiah we're here 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:31.240 right now, I don't think he would have let either 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.080 of us finish. He couldn't even finish our points. Would 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.920 I would have I would have directed that question to 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.359 Rob and Isaiah would have answered it. That's how it 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.440 would have worked out if he was there, because he 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.280 would be thinking. And I know there are a lot 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.600 of listeners right now that are saying, oh my gosh, 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.160 we freed up twelve million dollars of cap space. That 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.199 means Earl Thomas is coming right. It's not necessarily going 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.080 to work like that. I really don't think it will. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.399 If it does, it does, and hey, we've got a 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.400 Pro Bowl safety back there, and that would be interesting 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.840 and something that I know, I think all three of 0:18:59.920 --> 0:19:02.320 us would welcome from a football perspective. I just don't 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.760 know if it's going to happen from a business perspective 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.000 and from a locker room standpoint and things like that 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.320 moving into the season. But you look at really the 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.600 situation that Mike McCarthy has coming up in here in 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.919 Week one, there's still a lot of question marks around 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.720 his quarterback and the storylines that surfaced yesterday. Of course, 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.679 Earl Thomas is still looming in the storylines. There's all 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.680 these restructurings from the front office. But there's a chance 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.560 to just get down to football this weekend. And I 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.240 think that's what he's excited about, as he talked about 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.320 yesterday in his press conference. He's just ready to get 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.840 back out there. He's ready to go up against a 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.080 coach like Sean McVay on the other sideline. And that's 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:39.639 kind of where I want to go with this segment, 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.119 is talking about this coaching matchup. Mike McCarthy has a 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.640 Super Bowl, Sean McVay has an AP Coach of the Year, 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.520 something that Mike McCarthy does not have in his tenure. 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:53.480 This is not necessarily an easy matchup for McCarthy, even 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.120 though Sean mcvay' is also coming off a pretty disappointing season. Heckma, 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.800 what do you think about the coaching matchup and really 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:06.280 too different style of gurus going at it Sunday night? Yeah, well, 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.359 I think that I'm a homer, but I gotta say this, 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.160 I just feel as though McCarthy and his experience kind 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.760 of you have to move the needle towards him because 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.000 of that experience, but at the same time, both of 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.720 these guys are from those families or schools of thought 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.480 as far as offensive gurus are concerned. I thought it. 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.600 I found it very funny too well, just fascinating that 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:32.919 McCarthy talked about looking at Sean mcvay's offense and admiring 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.600 it from afar with him having an opportunity in with 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.720 being fired by Green Bay to just look at different coaches, 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.480 and just his admiration for Sean McVay and the multiple 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.399 schemes and tempos and formations that he runs some of 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.800 his plays out of. And so I found that to 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:52.920 be one of the things that I think it's going 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.800 to give coach Mike McCarthy a leg up. And by 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:58.679 the way, I think it should be noted that he 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.280 has three coaches that were on the staff or for 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.800 Los Angeles as well, so he's had a really good 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.119 opportunity to dissect some of the things that Sean McVay 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:13.080 likes to do out in La Man McCarthy didn't have 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.280 the Coach of the Year when they win fifteen and 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.800 one in Green Bay that year. That's now, yeah, at 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.200 least that's what I saw from from my research, I 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:25.320 might have missed it, but I really don't think so. Wow. Well, yeah, 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.960 I think he's been an underrated coach throughout his time 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:29.880 in Green Bay because I think, you know, people see 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.520 Aaron Rodgers and think, you know, he's he's the face. 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:37.040 But to Heckma's point, creativity jumps out of me first 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.320 when you talk about both coaches. I think what Sean 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.280 McVay has done the last two three years in terms 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:46.920 of some of his offensive mindset formations, different pre snap looks, 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.880 I think it's been adopted around the league that you're 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.439 seeing it more and more around the league. But I 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:55.000 think both coaches recognize you have to adapt, you know. 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.440 You know, the Rams had a tough tough year last 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.600 year offensively after what they did a couple of years 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.960 ago in the Super Bowl run. And you know, and 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:05.920 Sean McVay admitted, you know, we didn't use Todd Gurley 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.240