Speaker 1: And the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World hours at the
Speaker 1: Star In and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a Friday edition of
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys, Week one, Episode four, as we get you
Speaker 1: ready for the Rams and Cowboys Sunday Night Football just
Speaker 1: a couple days away as NFL football season is officially
Speaker 1: underway last night, as the Chiefs took down the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans thirty four to twenty on Thursday Night Football. But
Speaker 1: we've got Cowboys football to talk about, and we're going
Speaker 1: to dive into that over the next forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yo alongside the great Cowboys insider, Rob Phillips
Speaker 1: and the great heck Ma Harrison. As always, no Isaiah
Speaker 1: stand back today, which is unfortunate because we're only three
Speaker 1: fourths of what we usually are as a show without
Speaker 1: Isaiah in the mix. But hey, we're gonna hold down
Speaker 1: the fort and we'll see Isaiah again here next week
Speaker 1: and even this weekend if you're gonna watch pregame live
Speaker 1: as well. But tons of tons of storylines to get
Speaker 1: to leading into the weekend. But guys, I want to
Speaker 1: kind of start on a more serious note, and for
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. First off, really one of the
Speaker 1: first things I do whenever I intro a show normally
Speaker 1: is I usually like to say the date, and today
Speaker 1: is Friday, September eleventh, and that's a date that's gonna
Speaker 1: ring throughout the memories of Americans for the rest of
Speaker 1: time because of what happened back in two thousand and
Speaker 1: one on this date. Of course, the terrorist attacks in
Speaker 1: the start of the War on Terrorism in New York
Speaker 1: as the Twin Towers also on the Pentagon, and the
Speaker 1: terrorist attacks that were brought out and things that images
Speaker 1: that will never be forgotten and something that all of us,
Speaker 1: I know, remember where we were when that moment was happening,
Speaker 1: no matter where we were in our walk of life
Speaker 1: and where we were specifically physically. But guys, I wanted
Speaker 1: to kind of give you, guys a moment in remembrance
Speaker 1: of those victims and really what that stood for as
Speaker 1: a country. And Rob will start with you. I can't
Speaker 1: believe it's been almost twenty years, Kyle. I mean it
Speaker 1: just hit me today that it's been nineteen years. I
Speaker 1: was in college at the time. I like you said,
Speaker 1: there are certain things that you remember most, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that still I can remember. But
Speaker 1: the things that stick out today still are the coverage
Speaker 1: that day class is getting canceled on my campus, Peter
Speaker 1: Jennings on ABC trying to guide us all through it,
Speaker 1: President Bush's speech at Ground Zero, all of the first
Speaker 1: responders and their fearlessness and trying to help people. And
Speaker 1: I also remember George Tea a week later running out
Speaker 1: through the tunnel onto the football field with the American flag.
Speaker 1: That that, to me is still just in my memory.
Speaker 1: And um, I guess for me, it's just a reminder
Speaker 1: of so many people need football, you know, to kind
Speaker 1: of bring it back to our show, and having the
Speaker 1: season opener last night in the middle of another just
Speaker 1: just horrific situation in our country. Uh, it's nice to
Speaker 1: have football back because I think sometimes we need a
Speaker 1: diversion from some of the problems that we're having in
Speaker 1: our own lives. Heck, yeah, Kyle, I was. I was
Speaker 1: living in Puerto Rico at the time in college, and man,
Speaker 1: it was it was erie. It was erie being being
Speaker 1: a student abroad and not being able to get back
Speaker 1: home to my family, and just the way that life
Speaker 1: changed in a moment's notice. One of the things that
Speaker 1: I drew from September eleventh is you know, the first responders,
Speaker 1: and they're just heroic efforts to try and save people.
Speaker 1: The one the first responders that ran up those those
Speaker 1: stairs to try and save people why the building was
Speaker 1: coming down. That's something that has always stayed with me.
Speaker 1: Just being glued to the television, like and in the
Speaker 1: eerie reminder of just being glued to the television is
Speaker 1: the same today with the with the pandemic. But the
Speaker 1: one thing that I will always take from September eleventh
Speaker 1: is how unite it we all stood after September eleventh,
Speaker 1: How you know united we stand. We're all Americans and
Speaker 1: everyone standing together against you know, terrorism, And you know,
Speaker 1: September eleventh is always going to be My wife and
Speaker 1: I we were talking about it just nineteen years It
Speaker 1: just seems like that time flew. But even in that
Speaker 1: nineteen years, man, you remember exactly where you were when
Speaker 1: that first plane hit the build, and then in moments thereafter,
Speaker 1: I think we just all were in shock. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Yeah, that's that's really my September eleventh memory, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you guys sharing that, especially, like Rob
Speaker 1: said on a football show, this isn't the normal thing
Speaker 1: that you talk about, but you have to talk about
Speaker 1: it because it does represent what we are as Americans
Speaker 1: in that unity and everything that that's involved in the Red, white,
Speaker 1: and blue, and man, it's a it's a terrible memory,
Speaker 1: but it's a memory nonetheless. And we wanted to take
Speaker 1: a couple of moments here at the start of the
Speaker 1: show to remember those victims and remember those first responders
Speaker 1: who had their lives taken from them, almost three thousand
Speaker 1: that day throughout New York City, Washington, d C. And
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania as well. So we want to remember them.
Speaker 1: And while we're still kind of on a serious note,
Speaker 1: taking a more cowboys look at a serious note. In
Speaker 1: a storyline that came out yesterday, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to say, really the name of the reporter, because I
Speaker 1: know that's kind of where he wants it to be.
Speaker 1: He wants his name out there. But there were reports
Speaker 1: in it. There was a statement made yesterday about Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott and the fact that he wasn't necessarily doing a
Speaker 1: good job of hiding his emotions, and Dak Prescott in
Speaker 1: an interview last week or that or that was actually
Speaker 1: surfaced this week, rather went through his depression, in his
Speaker 1: struggle with mental health and really some of the things
Speaker 1: that he dealt with as an individual and as a
Speaker 1: human whenever his brother was passed passed away back in April.
Speaker 1: So guys kind of wanted to take a quick second
Speaker 1: to to back Dak Prescott as well. I mean, mental
Speaker 1: health is no joke. I mean this is something that's
Speaker 1: it's very serious for thousands, millions of people from a
Speaker 1: day to day basis. And I know this is something
Speaker 1: that at least both of you guys, I know, hold dear,
Speaker 1: both of you mentioned yesterday that this is something we
Speaker 1: want and need to talk about because of course it
Speaker 1: being our quarterback in Dak Prescott. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: this is a serious issue and people need to be
Speaker 1: aware of how serious it is. Well, you know, Kyle,
Speaker 1: I think I want to stay with a trend of
Speaker 1: not mentioning you know, the person that that the reason
Speaker 1: why we're talking about this, And look, this is a
Speaker 1: tough subject, man, and I just want to be clear
Speaker 1: on the fact that I know it is. One of
Speaker 1: the things that I want to point to is the
Speaker 1: fact that Dak Prescott's interview was amazing. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was amazing because he was able to articulate what he's
Speaker 1: been going through through this pandemic and what it was
Speaker 1: like growing up Dak Prescott. The headline stiller is what
Speaker 1: was mentioned by said reporter that makes this is the
Speaker 1: reason why we're talking about it. But really, what Dak
Speaker 1: was talking about was phenomenal. His what he's doing as
Speaker 1: far as trying to help put the police officers and
Speaker 1: his charitable donations. His father talked about that. But then
Speaker 1: what it's like growing up a multiracial man in America.
Speaker 1: That's that to me was the most striking thing about that,
Speaker 1: because what he was talking about is two Americas, the
Speaker 1: Americas that we're seeing white and black right, and how
Speaker 1: being a multiracial man and having to deal with not
Speaker 1: being accepted on both sides and still having to deal
Speaker 1: with his raw emotions. Man, we've all been dealing with
Speaker 1: this pandemic and it's you know, Hey, I'm a substitute teacher.
Speaker 1: I'm teaching my nine year old, my thirteen year old,
Speaker 1: and it has had his mental toll on everyone dealing
Speaker 1: with this, and I feel as though after listening to
Speaker 1: Dak and him being forthcoming and being honest about his
Speaker 1: emotions and what he's dealing with, that's something to not
Speaker 1: be targeted and said that, Hey, this guy should be
Speaker 1: looked at like he's weak because he's talking in these terms,
Speaker 1: but more or less, look at the strength that he's
Speaker 1: exuded by saying that. Look ideal with something that everybody
Speaker 1: deals with, and it doesn't matter if you're the CEO
Speaker 1: of Amazon or you're the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He was making sure that everyone knows that he is
Speaker 1: human and he is dealing with all of this the
Speaker 1: best that he can. And look, I really, if anything,
Speaker 1: after listening to that interview, man, if I wasn't a
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott fan before, I'm a bigger Dak Prescott fan today,
Speaker 1: I can't say it any better than that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm with you guys like I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about the talk show host who said that
Speaker 1: and had that take, because I know his bit. I've
Speaker 1: seen his bit for enough years now. He plays opposite man.
Speaker 1: He wants to have a take that's different than everybody else. Well,
Speaker 1: this one happened to be way out of line and
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. And everything Heckmas said is exactly right. You know,
Speaker 1: I think as men, I think a lot of times
Speaker 1: we're brought up to be stoic and tough and don't
Speaker 1: show our our emotions, and the older you get, you
Speaker 1: realize that's just not that's not the case. It's okay
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable, as Dak said yesterday, And it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter how much money you make. You know, money is
Speaker 1: not everything people people, We never know what people are
Speaker 1: dealing with in their hearts day to day, and I
Speaker 1: think that's why it's really important. And Dak using his
Speaker 1: platform is so important, Like you said, heck multiple different matters,
Speaker 1: social justice, now, mental wellness. Like for that to be
Speaker 1: said on air yesterday was so irresponsible given what people
Speaker 1: are dealing with in this country right now on a
Speaker 1: lot of different levels. We've talked about the pandemic we've got.
Speaker 1: There are people dying, there are people sick, they're people
Speaker 1: isolated from their families, have seen family members die and
Speaker 1: not being able to be with them because of the virus,
Speaker 1: and and obviously there's there are social injustice problems in
Speaker 1: this country. There's a lot of things affecting people in
Speaker 1: this country, and it's important to have that message out
Speaker 1: there that it's okay to be hurting right now, you know.
Speaker 1: And I know my family has had a lot of
Speaker 1: problems this year personally, and other people have too, And
Speaker 1: to have Dak say that that really struck me. You
Speaker 1: know that he can that his message carries a lot
Speaker 1: of weight, and for him to say that, I think
Speaker 1: can really help people. I applauded for it. I think
Speaker 1: it was something that needed to be said, especially with
Speaker 1: somebody who does have the platform that he does. And
Speaker 1: both of you guys very well said on each of
Speaker 1: your parts, and I think he said it well himself,
Speaker 1: saying and I'm going to quote from his interview with
Speaker 1: Graham ben sing or excuse me, but he said it
Speaker 1: showed me how vulnerable we have to be as humans,
Speaker 1: how open we have to be because of our adversity,
Speaker 1: our struggles, what we go through. It's always going to
Speaker 1: be too much for ourselves and maybe too much for
Speaker 1: even one or two people, but it's never too much
Speaker 1: for a community, or never too much for the people
Speaker 1: in the family that you love, so we have to
Speaker 1: share those things. And I think that's very well said.
Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely a problem. And we're gonna take a
Speaker 1: break here in just a couple of moments and then
Speaker 1: we'll talk football, I promise. But as we go into
Speaker 1: this break, I wanted to mention that yesterday was national
Speaker 1: world it was World Suicide Prevention Day, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to leave this number out there just for those who
Speaker 1: may need some help. If you're happening to listen to
Speaker 1: this podcast and you have been struggling with a depression
Speaker 1: or with a loss and you need somebody to talk to,
Speaker 1: reach out to those around you, absolutely, because it is
Speaker 1: a community that is needed in order to face these
Speaker 1: issues together, whether it's a mental health issue or even
Speaker 1: what we've been dealing with as a society with the
Speaker 1: COVID nine team pandemic and every issue that's going on
Speaker 1: in our world right now. But I mean, reach out
Speaker 1: to us. If you don't have anybody to reach out to,
Speaker 1: My dms are open, reach out to me. I have
Speaker 1: no issue talking to anybody about these types of issues,
Speaker 1: and it's something that is needed to be done. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw that out there as well. But
Speaker 1: I want to throw this number out there. It's the
Speaker 1: National Suicide Prevention Hotline one eight hundred two seven three
Speaker 1: eight two five five. That's how we'll head into break.
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Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys. It's the second segment here of Talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys as we lead you into Sunday Night football. This
Speaker 1: upcoming Sunday between the Cowboys and the Rams. Appreciate you
Speaker 1: sticking through what was a very heavy first segment, but
Speaker 1: it was a couple of topics that we absolutely wanted
Speaker 1: to hit on and share our opinions on because we
Speaker 1: do back both of those different causes, both remembrance of
Speaker 1: nine to eleven and never forgetting that, and then also
Speaker 1: backing Dak Prescott with the comments that were made yesterday.
Speaker 1: But we've got some breaking news to go into here
Speaker 1: on talking Cowboys as well. Just a couple of moments
Speaker 1: before we went on air, there was breaking news from
Speaker 1: Tom Pallisero of NFL Network saying that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: signed a one year voidable extension, meaning fifteen million dollars
Speaker 1: of the base salary of one DeMarcus Lawrence has been
Speaker 1: converted into a signing bonus, which frees up twelve million
Speaker 1: dollars of cap space this year by making such moves.
Speaker 1: So we've got some movement whenever it comes to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and it comes to this roster. We thought, of course,
Speaker 1: last week we saw Zach Martin have a deal restructured,
Speaker 1: we saw some other cap space mingling in there. But Rob,
Speaker 1: what does this mean, whenever it comes to DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: getting an extension that's voidable and assigning bonus and freeing
Speaker 1: up all this money, it's really the same thing. I
Speaker 1: think that we saw the same purpose that we saw
Speaker 1: with tyre In and with Zach recently. Just creating some
Speaker 1: more space, yes for this year, but you know, an
Speaker 1: any unused money can carry over to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I think that's really what they're eyeing. And they've done
Speaker 1: this in the past, you know, they with franchise Cornerstone players.
Speaker 1: I think they've done it with Tony Romo's contract in
Speaker 1: the past, some other top guys. You know, you can
Speaker 1: you can convert some of that base salary to signing
Speaker 1: bonus money and then basically carry it over and free
Speaker 1: up some space. So that's what they're doing, and we
Speaker 1: all know the cap is very uncertain next year. We
Speaker 1: also know there's a possibility that Dak Prescott will have
Speaker 1: to get franchised again, at least maybe in the interim
Speaker 1: to create space for what would be a thirty eight
Speaker 1: million dollar cap figure. So that's that's I think primarily
Speaker 1: what they're looking at here. Heckma, do you agree, because
Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of fans out there
Speaker 1: that might be saying there's there's a free agent that's
Speaker 1: on the market. At the moment, I would tend to
Speaker 1: side with Rob whenever it comes to this is a
Speaker 1: future move to keep your quarterback. But I know how
Speaker 1: you and Isaiah had been talking, and I wish Isaiah'd
Speaker 1: be on because he would say, Earl Thomas, he would
Speaker 1: say it immediately, but heck, what do you think about
Speaker 1: this this move? Well, I you know, I'm siding with
Speaker 1: Rob on this because I feel as though it's something
Speaker 1: that's going to free up that cap space to get
Speaker 1: Dak signed. At least that's what I'm hoping, and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that Dak didn't. We don't have to go through
Speaker 1: this for another offseason with Dak in the franchise tech.
Speaker 1: I mean, got that made for a lot of interesting banswer,
Speaker 1: but let's get it done. I think that with COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: the uniqueness of COVID nineteen, and just with so many
Speaker 1: things being up in the air on what the cap
Speaker 1: is going to be next year, I just feel like
Speaker 1: from an accounting standpoint, the Cowboys are just being very
Speaker 1: smart smart to make sure that they're not over their
Speaker 1: cap space next year. Yeah. Hey, if Isaiah we're here
Speaker 1: right now, I don't think he would have let either
Speaker 1: of us finish. He couldn't even finish our points. Would
Speaker 1: I would have I would have directed that question to
Speaker 1: Rob and Isaiah would have answered it. That's how it
Speaker 1: would have worked out if he was there, because he
Speaker 1: would be thinking. And I know there are a lot
Speaker 1: of listeners right now that are saying, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: we freed up twelve million dollars of cap space. That
Speaker 1: means Earl Thomas is coming right. It's not necessarily going
Speaker 1: to work like that. I really don't think it will.
Speaker 1: If it does, it does, and hey, we've got a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl safety back there, and that would be interesting
Speaker 1: and something that I know, I think all three of
Speaker 1: us would welcome from a football perspective. I just don't
Speaker 1: know if it's going to happen from a business perspective
Speaker 1: and from a locker room standpoint and things like that
Speaker 1: moving into the season. But you look at really the
Speaker 1: situation that Mike McCarthy has coming up in here in
Speaker 1: Week one, there's still a lot of question marks around
Speaker 1: his quarterback and the storylines that surfaced yesterday. Of course,
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is still looming in the storylines. There's all
Speaker 1: these restructurings from the front office. But there's a chance
Speaker 1: to just get down to football this weekend. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what he's excited about, as he talked about
Speaker 1: yesterday in his press conference. He's just ready to get
Speaker 1: back out there. He's ready to go up against a
Speaker 1: coach like Sean McVay on the other sideline. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of where I want to go with this segment,
Speaker 1: is talking about this coaching matchup. Mike McCarthy has a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Sean McVay has an AP Coach of the Year,
Speaker 1: something that Mike McCarthy does not have in his tenure.
Speaker 1: This is not necessarily an easy matchup for McCarthy, even
Speaker 1: though Sean mcvay' is also coming off a pretty disappointing season. Heckma,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the coaching matchup and really
Speaker 1: too different style of gurus going at it Sunday night? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think that I'm a homer, but I gotta say this,
Speaker 1: I just feel as though McCarthy and his experience kind
Speaker 1: of you have to move the needle towards him because
Speaker 1: of that experience, but at the same time, both of
Speaker 1: these guys are from those families or schools of thought
Speaker 1: as far as offensive gurus are concerned. I thought it.
Speaker 1: I found it very funny too well, just fascinating that
Speaker 1: McCarthy talked about looking at Sean mcvay's offense and admiring
Speaker 1: it from afar with him having an opportunity in with
Speaker 1: being fired by Green Bay to just look at different coaches,
Speaker 1: and just his admiration for Sean McVay and the multiple
Speaker 1: schemes and tempos and formations that he runs some of
Speaker 1: his plays out of. And so I found that to
Speaker 1: be one of the things that I think it's going
Speaker 1: to give coach Mike McCarthy a leg up. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I think it should be noted that he
Speaker 1: has three coaches that were on the staff or for
Speaker 1: Los Angeles as well, so he's had a really good
Speaker 1: opportunity to dissect some of the things that Sean McVay
Speaker 1: likes to do out in La Man McCarthy didn't have
Speaker 1: the Coach of the Year when they win fifteen and
Speaker 1: one in Green Bay that year. That's now, yeah, at
Speaker 1: least that's what I saw from from my research, I
Speaker 1: might have missed it, but I really don't think so. Wow. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's been an underrated coach throughout his time
Speaker 1: in Green Bay because I think, you know, people see
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and think, you know, he's he's the face.
Speaker 1: But to Heckma's point, creativity jumps out of me first
Speaker 1: when you talk about both coaches. I think what Sean
Speaker 1: McVay has done the last two three years in terms
Speaker 1: of some of his offensive mindset formations, different pre snap looks,
Speaker 1: I think it's been adopted around the league that you're
Speaker 1: seeing it more and more around the league. But I
Speaker 1: think both coaches recognize you have to adapt, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, the Rams had a tough tough year last
Speaker 1: year offensively after what they did a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago in the Super Bowl run. And you know, and
Speaker 1: Sean McVay admitted, you know, we didn't use Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: enough last year. So I think that's something he's got
Speaker 1: to he's probably looking at. And the best coaches find
Speaker 1: the best ways to use what personnel they have. So
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see what the rams
Speaker 1: real strengths are this year. And you know, with the
Speaker 1: changes that they've made on the roster that we talked
Speaker 1: about the last couple of days and Mike McCarthy, like
Speaker 1: Heck said, he has spent a year off basically coaching
Speaker 1: himself and evaluating himself on what things did I not
Speaker 1: do well enough maybe my last couple of years in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. And the thing I like the most that
Speaker 1: he said recently was I'm trying to empower my coaches.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is the offensive coordinator, other coaches on staff
Speaker 1: to you know, empower these guys to take control of
Speaker 1: their positions and their play calling and uh and obviously
Speaker 1: use his influence as well. I think his time off
Speaker 1: the analytics stuff he's looked at that, I think it's
Speaker 1: it's made him a better coach and we're about to
Speaker 1: all find out here in a couple of days. We
Speaker 1: are going to find out. And it's a change for
Speaker 1: both sides because you look at Mike McCarthy and what
Speaker 1: he's done over the past year. Now with a new franchise,
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh has a trio of new coordinators, basically an
Speaker 1: entirely new staff underneath him and a new identity. We
Speaker 1: talked about it and Rob you alluded to it just
Speaker 1: a moment ago about the new identity of this Rams team.
Speaker 1: Last year, they abandoned the run. They went to the past.
Speaker 1: It was Jared Goff versus the world whenever it came
Speaker 1: to slinging the football around a little bit, and it's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they ended up as a
Speaker 1: top five passing offense in the NFL. But heckm whenever
Speaker 1: you look at the options that Sean McVeigh has in
Speaker 1: the creativity that he has as a coach, are you
Speaker 1: expecting straightforward passing attack, let's throw the football around or
Speaker 1: is there something up as sleeve a little bit come Sunday. No,
Speaker 1: I think there's no mystery with Sean McVeigh. I mean,
Speaker 1: he does a lot of different things from a multiple sets.
Speaker 1: I love it. You know, he does the bunch sets
Speaker 1: with the tight ends. He even goes four receivers down
Speaker 1: on the goal line, So there's I mean, he has
Speaker 1: no shame about what he wants to do. And that's
Speaker 1: get you your vertical. In the passing game, we're gonna
Speaker 1: see a lot of five dvs. It's just Nickel and
Speaker 1: don packages for everyone. And we talked about it a
Speaker 1: little bit yesterday as far as touching on what the
Speaker 1: tight ends do and that offense, and that's what I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be very interesting as far as
Speaker 1: matchups in this game is how we can adjust to
Speaker 1: what they do with their tight ends. I mean, they
Speaker 1: have tight end screens. Anytime Jared Goff is bootlegging, he
Speaker 1: gets out of space and always will find Higbee are
Speaker 1: ever it. But I think that's the challenge that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys has is those multiple sets and some of the
Speaker 1: things that like Rob alluded to, the pre snap stuff.
Speaker 1: They come out, they go with a hard count, you know,
Speaker 1: quick count things like that. They're always keeping the defense
Speaker 1: on their toes. So Mike Nolan has his hands full
Speaker 1: and he has to prepare for everything for this Rams offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the tight end matchups really interesting because it makes it
Speaker 1: remind finds me of what Mike and Mike Nolan have
Speaker 1: said this offseason and in camp, where it's about matchups
Speaker 1: in the secondary. It's not so much Okay, you play corner,
Speaker 1: you play safety. You got to be able to adjust.
Speaker 1: And they've got versatile dbs that are physically able to
Speaker 1: match up with tight ends and cover as well. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Daryl Worley comes to mind, branding car. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be called up for
Speaker 1: this game. You know, he didn't have a training camp,
Speaker 1: but he's a guy in your mind where he's a
Speaker 1: big enough corner, a dB that can match up with
Speaker 1: tight ends and carry them down the field. So the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I think are trying to build their defense that way
Speaker 1: to handle some of the versatile looks that you're going
Speaker 1: to see from from other offenses. And I think that's
Speaker 1: that's what Mike Nolan's whole stick is, is the fact
Speaker 1: that he's able to throw those multiple defenses out there
Speaker 1: and provide different looks to keep an offense off guard.
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why this team has been
Speaker 1: so secretive throughout the course of the off season and
Speaker 1: training camp, and hopefully it pays off. But I've got
Speaker 1: a stat, guys that I want to throw out here.
Speaker 1: I've got a stat. It might make it nervous a
Speaker 1: little bit. How about this. I've got two Actually these
Speaker 1: are two separate stats. First, one is that mister Sean McVay,
Speaker 1: that coach on the other side, who's who was hired
Speaker 1: as the youngest NFL head coach in history is a
Speaker 1: whopping three and zero as a head coach and season openers.
Speaker 1: And in those season openers, he's averaged over thirty six
Speaker 1: points per game and outscored his appointed opponents one o
Speaker 1: nine forty nine. So they've outscored him by a more
Speaker 1: than half a century of points. And they've just been
Speaker 1: absolutely dominant in season openers. And on the other side,
Speaker 1: how about this second stat. Mike McCarthy in his first
Speaker 1: game as the Packers head coach, so his first game
Speaker 1: with a new franchise and a season opener on the road.
Speaker 1: It was against Chicago back in two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: twenty six to nothing loss, and he gave up four
Speaker 1: field goals and an eighty four yard punt returned touch
Speaker 1: down to none other than Devin Hester of the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: And that's how the Packers there, That's how the Packers
Speaker 1: ten Yeah, well it is Devin Hester, but that's how
Speaker 1: the Packers tenure for Mike McCarthy started. Does that make
Speaker 1: you nervous on both of those stats, rob moving into
Speaker 1: Sunday's game just because of the similarities or the I
Speaker 1: guess the polar opposites of the two coaches. Are you
Speaker 1: saying the Cowboys are gonna go to LA and could
Speaker 1: be fifty No, no, way through our predictions, way to
Speaker 1: our predictions. But no, I'm not saying fifty to nothing.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. But I am throwing out
Speaker 1: these stats to see if it'll make me nervous. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you have to respect Sean McVeigh and that
Speaker 1: to me, that really speaks to a young coach that
Speaker 1: gets his team prepared to play. But every year is different,
Speaker 1: every team's different. Um. I don't think you can look
Speaker 1: back at what happened when Green Bay and say it's
Speaker 1: gonna affect this team. I do expect a high scoring
Speaker 1: game one because we don't neither team knows what the
Speaker 1: other team's gonna do. And there's no crowd noise, there's
Speaker 1: no there's nothing, there's nothing to impact Dak Prescott in
Speaker 1: the offensive line at the line of scrimmage, and so
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a lot of points. Um,
Speaker 1: But no, I don't really. I'm not nervous, Kyle. I'm
Speaker 1: not nervous at all. Heck no, I'm not either, Yll
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's the first times out for everything, right,
Speaker 1: it is coming. It is coming this Sunday. My belief
Speaker 1: about and I think we're talking about the Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: and McCarthy matchup, but I don't think enough has been
Speaker 1: made about the Dak Prescott Jared Goff matchup as well.
Speaker 1: Think about where these both of these quarterbacks are same class.
Speaker 1: One guy is fighting to get that contract that solidifies
Speaker 1: and validates him as a top tier quarterback. In another one,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of easy, breezy, nonchalantly just going about
Speaker 1: his business in making about thirty two thirty three million dollars. Look,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. When it comes down the golf. I
Speaker 1: know he gets really antsy and jumpy when defenses are
Speaker 1: putting pressure on him, right, and I believe that with
Speaker 1: the with the defense that we have, that's the number
Speaker 1: one thing that we like. You said, Nolan Stick, Let's
Speaker 1: make this guy uncomfortable the whole game. Let's come after him.
Speaker 1: We know what he likes to do. He wants to
Speaker 1: get out and get the ball out of his hands quickly.
Speaker 1: That's their success. They run this West Coast offense just
Speaker 1: the same that we're looking at here in Dallas, with
Speaker 1: a little bit of Kellen Moore mixed in with that,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, we're gonna play fast, but defensively,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be our responsibility to move Golf out of
Speaker 1: that pocket and make him uncomfortable. I totally agree. It's
Speaker 1: this game is gonna come down to who controls the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage on both sides. And I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to see what Tristan Hill does in the middle of
Speaker 1: that Cowboy's defensive line because he had an encouraging camp
Speaker 1: and he's matching up against Blythe and that that interior
Speaker 1: Rams offensive line, which some people think is is maybe
Speaker 1: a weak spot. We'll find out this season. But how
Speaker 1: good can this defensive line, defensive front for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: be because they showed flashes. I know it's non tackling practice,
Speaker 1: but they showed flashes in camp of wow, like the
Speaker 1: talent level, the versatility. They have a chance to be really,
Speaker 1: really good. So they can they disrupt golf Hex exactly
Speaker 1: right to me, that's the key of the game. I
Speaker 1: just want to I want to mention when's, first off,
Speaker 1: how crazy things can change so quickly, because what Rob
Speaker 1: just said, we're going into week one of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: after the twenty nineteen that Tristan Hill said, alarms went
Speaker 1: off in my head whenever you said I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see what Triston Hill has in store for this offensive
Speaker 1: line and for this game on Sunday, alarms went off
Speaker 1: because that's originally you're like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: But that's how good his camp was, and that's how
Speaker 1: good his offseason was. Even without a full NFL OTA
Speaker 1: written offseason, he was still able to come into camp
Speaker 1: and look noticeably better at the moment earn a starting spot,
Speaker 1: according to Stephen Jones in the Cowboys depth chart that
Speaker 1: they put out, earn a starting spot for Tristan Hill.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it does come down to the trenches.
Speaker 1: It's what it came down to. In Week fifteen of
Speaker 1: last season. The Cowboys dominated the trenches and they ended
Speaker 1: up winning that game forty four to twenty one. But
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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. So glad you're with us on Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot com alongside heck My Harrison and Rob Phillips. I'm
Speaker 1: Kyle Yomans, Isaiah standback. We'll be back with us on Monday.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to catch Rob and
Speaker 1: Isaiah and myself. We'll all be on pregame Live coming
Speaker 1: up this Sunday, leading you into kickoff between the La
Speaker 1: Rams and the Dallas Cowboys. So you're not done with
Speaker 1: us just yet this weekend in terms of content on
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com. But guys, we've got some predictions
Speaker 1: to get to. It's the final show before a really
Speaker 1: NFL season kicks off. It kicked off last night with
Speaker 1: the thirty four twenty Chiefs win over the Texans, but
Speaker 1: the NFL weekend is still very much so ahead of us,
Speaker 1: and we've got a full Sunday slate coming up in
Speaker 1: a couple of days. But man, I was going through
Speaker 1: these last night. I've got every prediction from all of
Speaker 1: you guys. I've got the predictions for each division winner,
Speaker 1: super Bowl matchup, and Super Bowl champion, and then we'll
Speaker 1: predict Sunday's game at the end. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: start with you Heckup, just because I really have no
Speaker 1: idea where you're going with this. I think I've maybe
Speaker 1: got a feel of where Rob could go, but I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about where Heck was at in terms
Speaker 1: of these predictions. So give us your AFC Division Champions
Speaker 1: East to South all the way through. Let's go Oh God,
Speaker 1: all right, East East, I'm going AFCAST, I'm going Buffalo. Okay,
Speaker 1: AFC North, I'm going Baltimore, AFC South. Oh God help
Speaker 1: me Rob here, I'm trying to make a list right
Speaker 1: now myself. Uh yeah, Houston last night. Yeah, it's last
Speaker 1: night without without Grit, without Hopkins. I'm just yeah, like
Speaker 1: they look real average to me right now. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Houston. I'll go Houston on that one. Uh
Speaker 1: And obviously Kansas City, come on now, Okay, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was pretty easy, Rob. What you got for the AFC.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Buffalo. I'm going chalk from last year.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going Buffalo, Baltimore, Tennessee, and Kansas City Baltimore.
Speaker 1: You said, what was the third or who was the
Speaker 1: loved in the South Tennessee Tennessee? Okay, Kansas City, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm keeping up with these. By the way,
Speaker 1: for all of those keeping track at home, I am
Speaker 1: also keeping tracks so that way we can come back
Speaker 1: the end of the season and look through this. Uh. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm who you got. I'll go with the Bills,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Ravens, And this is where I switch
Speaker 1: it up. I think the Colts win the AFC South,
Speaker 1: and I think they're a better team than a lot
Speaker 1: of people give up. So I think the Colts. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, so I think the Colts win the
Speaker 1: AFC South. Isaiah's picks were the Bills, the Chiefs, the
Speaker 1: Ravens and the tight Hands. So he's going pretty chalk
Speaker 1: of last year as well. I think didn't New England
Speaker 1: win that division still last year and Buffalo was the
Speaker 1: wild card? I'm trying to remember, but uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. But yeah, so a little change there. I
Speaker 1: mean there's still people out there that are thinking that
Speaker 1: New England is going to win the division. By the way,
Speaker 1: I am watching the comments on our periscope stream, so
Speaker 1: if you have predictions of your own, throw them in there.
Speaker 1: I'll read them out while we're going through our predictions ourselves,
Speaker 1: just because I think there is a good little back
Speaker 1: and forth. But I think Buffalo is a better team
Speaker 1: this year, and I think New England's got a chance.
Speaker 1: What was that Robbie changing something? I'm changing my pick.
Speaker 1: I gotta go with THEE even with Cam Newton at
Speaker 1: the change. Yeah, I'm a I'm a Cam believer. I'm
Speaker 1: a Belichick believer for sure. I think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: just fine. So I am going straight shock from last year. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Isaiah didn't go with his former head coach
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick. He instead with the Bills, and so that's, uh,
Speaker 1: that's a little intriguing to me as well. But all
Speaker 1: right on the Bill's defense is just next level super
Speaker 1: good nasty. Yeah, yeah, they are make nasty. And I
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen's a real deal at quarterback too, even
Speaker 1: though he's not your typical quarterback. I think he's a
Speaker 1: good modern in it fell quarterback. Um, okay, NFC, Rob
Speaker 1: will start with you this time. I'll go west to
Speaker 1: east Okay, and I'll start. I'll go with Seattle, Seattle,
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Green Bay and your Dallas Cowboys. What's your
Speaker 1: prediction on Cowboys wins this year? Cowboys wins, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ten and six, okay, And that's good enough to
Speaker 1: win the division. It gives you, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: And it gives you a little buffer. Maybe they catch
Speaker 1: a break here there and they win an extra game
Speaker 1: or two you never know. I like it. Heckma six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So all right, let's go. I'm going to Seattle. Okay, boy,
Speaker 1: this is just getting tough. Seattles, Seattle, Saints, Saints yeah, um,
Speaker 1: of course, Cowboys, NFC's who am I missing here? The North? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You got the North? Oh Vikings, Oh okay, with Minnesota there,
Speaker 1: I like it. Okay, I'm a fan. And then you, uh,
Speaker 1: you've got the nfcas my boy. Yeah, we Cowboys. Okay,
Speaker 1: what are you? Okay, well, what's your what's your win prediction? Then? Hi, man,
Speaker 1: this is this is tough. Well you got on this beforehand,
Speaker 1: so hard. Oh all right? Eleven and five, eleven and
Speaker 1: five okay, eleven five awesome, eleven and five NFC East champions.
Speaker 1: Isaiah went with the Seattle Seahawks the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: winning the NFC North, the NFC South belongs to the Saints,
Speaker 1: and he picked the Cowboys to win the NFC East.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a win prediction from him. I'll ask him,
Speaker 1: uh coming up here in a little bit. But so
Speaker 1: he's pretty much the same as what you guys had.
Speaker 1: I've got a little bit different. I've got the Cowboys
Speaker 1: winning the NFC East, of course, and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: my win total here in a second. Uh. The NFC West,
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, I think win that division again.
Speaker 1: I still think they're fantastic and Kyle Shanahan's got him rolling.
Speaker 1: I think the NFC North goes to the Vikings. I
Speaker 1: think they're better than the Packers, and I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun little back and forth. But I
Speaker 1: think even without Stefan Diggs, I still think the Vikings
Speaker 1: are really good. Uh. And then the NFC South, the Saints,
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints are gonna dominate that division. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'll do. Nobody picked Tampa Bay No, No, I'm not
Speaker 1: a believerable Tom Tom Brady. Wow. Now, I think the
Speaker 1: rest of his squad is really good and they're gonna
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But I just think it's because of
Speaker 1: the rest of the squad's really good. But we'll see. Hell,
Speaker 1: he's probably what I know. It's true, he's proven a
Speaker 1: lot of people wrong. That's true. That's true. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say eleven and five for the Cowboys. By the way
Speaker 1: I went through the schedule last night, I think they'll
Speaker 1: go eleven and five and win the division. So I'm
Speaker 1: right there with you. He Okay, super Bowl matchup and
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion? Rob what you got on that one? Man?
Speaker 1: I basically, I basically said, the Chiefs are gonna go
Speaker 1: sixteen and oh yesterday, So I gotta stick with that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with that. I got Pat
Speaker 1: Mahomes as the MVP, and I've got the Chiefs back
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I'll go with I'll go with Seattle. Okay,
Speaker 1: with Seattle. I think the Cowboys have a chance to
Speaker 1: make her run. But but you know, the continuity part
Speaker 1: of it, to me, I think probably gives teams an
Speaker 1: advantage this year, teams that have more continuity in terms
Speaker 1: of coaching and personnel. The Seahawks did a lot to upgrade,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of defensively Jamal Adams, they got
Speaker 1: some help offensively for Russ. I'll go with them, But
Speaker 1: I got I mean, I don't see the I don't
Speaker 1: see the chief losing much at all this year at all.
Speaker 1: Let's just go nineteen and oh go, I'll go Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Holy cow Okay, yeah wow, what Holy No? I don't
Speaker 1: really believe that. But they're gonna have losses and I
Speaker 1: got him repeating no, no, no, no, no, no, all right.
Speaker 1: Heck ma, Rob, I don't know what Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that alone, all right. So I got
Speaker 1: Baltimore coming out of the AFC, and guys, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something, tell me something. This is our year, guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put it to you just like this.
Speaker 1: After seeing Dak's interview, After seeing Dak's interview and him
Speaker 1: talking about I have a fire burning in me and
Speaker 1: you could put anything in it, and it's just gonna
Speaker 1: keep on burning. This is a man on a mission.
Speaker 1: He has every reason to be the MVP of the
Speaker 1: National Football League this year. I said it, MVP Dak.
Speaker 1: So write that down, Kyle, all I know what you got.
Speaker 1: I just think, man, it's time. You know, it's so
Speaker 1: many cowboy haters out there. And every time they want
Speaker 1: to talk about Cowboys playoffs. Oh my god, you guys
Speaker 1: haven't won a Super Bowl in a quarter of a century.
Speaker 1: They don't say twenty five years, a quarter of a
Speaker 1: century to make it sound so much longer. Right, But
Speaker 1: at the same time, we have the personnel, we have
Speaker 1: everything that we need upfront defensively to dominate we have
Speaker 1: the Ezekiel Elliott, we have the weapon. We have a
Speaker 1: Mauri Cooper. Oh and we just got this guy from
Speaker 1: Ou that is going to set the league on fire. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm going. I'm going Cowboys Ravens with return of the Championship,
Speaker 1: sitting Cowboys win Super Bowl. Man, man, man, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to run twenty five years later, a quarter of a
Speaker 1: century later, we do ticket. Tell me so downtown Dallas,
Speaker 1: we being no Cliff oh Man, that would be a party.
Speaker 1: I think we would have to tell you what you know.
Speaker 1: You know what, if they pulled this off right, with
Speaker 1: as many changes as they had to their their scheme,
Speaker 1: their coaching staff, players, that would be the biggest Super
Speaker 1: Bowl of the six that they've ever won, the most
Speaker 1: significant in the middle of a pandemic all of that.
Speaker 1: That would be one of the greatest accomplishments in the
Speaker 1: history of sports. I think I thought Rob was gonna
Speaker 1: make a bet here. I thought he was gonna make
Speaker 1: a bet. And I'm of course a big fan of
Speaker 1: bets and holding yourself to to a standard. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not run into the star. And it helped us
Speaker 1: get a wide receiver. Uh No, if we if they
Speaker 1: ended up winning a Super Bowl. If they ended up
Speaker 1: winning a super Bowl, then hey, I'm I'll do a
Speaker 1: podcast down in South oak Cliff. We'll do it. We'll
Speaker 1: have a talking Cowboys party. It'll be a whole thing. Uh.
Speaker 1: But man, remember remember yeah, no, once again, I'm a
Speaker 1: man of my word. Okay, Zaiah, I missed it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lose all credibility. Boy. Yeah you will. Oh, you
Speaker 1: absolutely will. Um You'll be the homer of the of
Speaker 1: the group for sure. Uh Okay, Isaiah said, Sam Francisco
Speaker 1: over Baltimore in the Super Bowl is his prediction. I
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs will get back
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and I think they'll go up
Speaker 1: against the Saints, and I think the Chiefs will win.
Speaker 1: And I even put a score on it, I said, Uh,
Speaker 1: I said forty to twenty one. Chiefs over Saints. Back
Speaker 1: to back Super Bowl champions Wow. The Cowboys, I'm with Rob.
Speaker 1: It's got to be the continent naughty. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'll pretty I'll make a prediction here about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I think they make it to a championship game and
Speaker 1: they just lose to the Saints. That's my prediction. I
Speaker 1: think they'll make the run. I don't think they'll go
Speaker 1: all the way. That's my only thing. He didn't even
Speaker 1: have any words. He didn't even have words at the moment. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's look at some day Cowboy. There you go. I
Speaker 1: love it really quickly. We're already over time. But Sunday's matchup. Heckma,
Speaker 1: who you got Cowboys? Okay, rob Cowboys? Twenty seven high
Speaker 1: scoring game Cowboys. Oh, this is gonna make me look
Speaker 1: really bad here then. Um, I love the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: I just predicted them to go eleven and five. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be one of those five losses. And I
Speaker 1: say it's gonna be thirty four thirty Rams, and I'm
Speaker 1: not happy about it, but I've got that gut feeling.
Speaker 1: We've got an article coming up on cowboys dot com
Speaker 1: that is gut feeling and I explain my pick, So
Speaker 1: go check that out. But I am picking the Rams.
Speaker 1: Thirty four to thirty is my score. I will hopefully
Speaker 1: be totally wrong on Monday, and you guys can make
Speaker 1: fun of me, because if that's the case, then I
Speaker 1: might have to pick them to lose the rest of
Speaker 1: the year. If they If the Cowboys come out and win,
Speaker 1: and I'm happy taking that bullet if I need to.
Speaker 1: But guys, it's been a ton of fun. I want
Speaker 1: to run through some of these fan fan predictions so
Speaker 1: far are SP forty says the Cowboys are eleven and five.
Speaker 1: A TK says Cowboys twelve and four. Some of these
Speaker 1: guys really like the Bears, Kansas City, New Orleans, and
Speaker 1: the Super bowls. Cowboys over Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Heck,
Speaker 1: you're not alone. Cowboys over Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Jay said, get down with your bad self. Heck, I
Speaker 1: love that. I think that's perfect. He said, Oh, Cliff,
Speaker 1: so you're represented there as well. And then thirty four
Speaker 1: thirteen Sunday win for the Cowboys. Thirty four thirteen. SP
Speaker 1: forty comes in with that. Oh and newis Scrubs chiming in.
Speaker 1: He'll be on later today on the on the Players Lounge,
Speaker 1: says the Rams. He's making fun of me for my
Speaker 1: Rams over Cowboys prediction, and I'll take it. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'll take that bullet. I made the prediction.
Speaker 1: If they lose, then I'm right. If they If they win,
Speaker 1: then I'm even happier. So that's that's the point. But guys,
Speaker 1: it's been a ton of fun. We can't wait to
Speaker 1: see you next week. Hopefully the Cowboys will be one
Speaker 1: and oh heading into Week two and we'll get you
Speaker 1: ready for that matchup as well. But for now, for
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, for heck My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying
Speaker 1: so long for talking Cowboys. We'll see you next week
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